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has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:23:25 <argoneus> ayy 10:24:17 *** itsatacoshop247__ [~itsatacos@c-76-102-167-252.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 10:24:57 <__ln__> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/iron-sky-the-coming-race--2 10:31:36 *** itsatacoshop247_ [~itsatacos@c-76-102-167-252.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:34:12 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-106-62-54.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 10:35:36 *** itsatacoshop247__ [~itsatacos@c-76-102-167-252.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:00:19 *** Suicyder [~Suicyder@86.92.59.88] has joined #openttd 11:10:26 *** engineerwolf [~engineerw@0001f8e6.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 11:25:32 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@95.76.27.245] has joined #openttd 12:01:27 <supermop> cant decide what country my etsy store should be in 12:01:38 <supermop> or if there is a better alternative 12:02:40 <V453000> wat 12:06:01 <Eddi|zuHause> i agree with V453000 (and when does that ever happen) 12:06:15 <V453000> YES 12:06:18 <V453000> I win 12:06:57 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has joined #openttd 12:07:24 <V453000> thesouthone 12:09:23 <andythenorth> moin 12:09:25 <andythenorth> also pikka 12:09:48 <andythenorth> hrm 12:09:59 <andythenorth> I keep forgetting to add these to Road Hog 12:09:59 <andythenorth> http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-GU25dgOY-rE/UJNID5xQ5ZI/AAAAAAACBYw/WdF071WZuHI/s900/a17.jpg 12:10:01 <andythenorth> oops 12:12:29 <Pikka> why 12:12:39 <Pikka> what about iron hog 12:15:05 <andythenorth> what is it? 12:15:09 <andythenorth> sounds good 12:15:58 <Pikka> maybe 12:16:17 <Pikka> if it's 32bpp4ez 12:16:20 <andythenorth> :( 12:16:27 <andythenorth> you and your big pixels 12:16:36 <andythenorth> also 12:17:04 <Pikka> also which? 12:17:46 <andythenorth> this will be a right bastard to draw in pixels 12:17:46 <V453000> big pixels are the future 12:17:46 <andythenorth> http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/pix/trucks/len_rogers/2007/02/erf-blue.jpg 12:17:59 <Pikka> tres erf 12:18:05 <Pikka> erf sounds like a made-up name 12:18:26 <andythenorth> it was 12:19:16 <andythenorth> renderised powder tanker? 12:19:25 <Eddi|zuHause> erf is the integral of the bell curve 12:19:58 <Pikka> such lifted axles, also 12:20:09 <andythenorth> hmm 12:20:10 <Pikka> renderised means "correct" dimensions though 12:20:16 <andythenorth> could code those lifted axles 12:20:25 <andythenorth> at 1x EZ, definitely worth it 12:20:29 <Pikka> si 12:20:39 <Pikka> just make a new 3dtt 12:20:48 <Pikka> call it something clever like drain fewer 12:20:52 <andythenorth> we should 12:20:56 <andythenorth> but I wonât 12:23:09 <Pikka> why not 12:23:14 <Pikka> not enough pixels in the day? 12:23:59 <Pikka> In my opinion, it is not a good feature to have too much refit options, because use of autorefit become unpredictable. 12:24:33 <andythenorth> oh 12:24:36 <andythenorth> feedback 12:24:37 <andythenorth> I see 12:25:04 <andythenorth> well 12:25:05 <andythenorth> yes 12:25:23 <andythenorth> I shall definitely go ahead and break the set 12:26:15 <andythenorth> why doesnât it expire? 12:26:23 <andythenorth> I never bother with expire, so I didnât test it 12:26:28 <andythenorth> probably I set ânever expires' 12:26:35 <Pikka> seems likely 12:26:37 <andythenorth> oh because otherwise itâs broken 12:30:14 *** engineerwolf [~engineerw@0001f8e6.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:30:52 *** blathijs [matthijs@tika.stderr.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:33:13 *** MJP [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has joined #openttd 12:37:50 *** SHOTbyGUN [shotbygun@213-186-253-83.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:38:32 *** blathijs [matthijs@tika.stderr.nl] has joined #openttd 12:58:59 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-72-94-147-76.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 13:05:51 *** slonik 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sorry. 14:32:55 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@95.76.27.245] has quit [] 14:33:57 <V453000> REPOST 14:33:59 <V453000> BURN HIM ALIVE 14:34:18 <V453000> THE INTERNET REVEALED THIS KNOWLEDGE TO ME ALREADY 14:35:09 <peter1138> Yeah, __ln__ already linked it. I'm gonna perish. 14:35:18 <V453000> absolutely 14:36:01 <argoneus> nono 14:36:03 <argoneus> I meant 14:36:08 <argoneus> someone in an unrelated channel 14:36:12 <argoneus> on an unrelated server 14:36:15 <argoneus> in an unrelated discussion 14:36:40 <argoneus> mildly interesting 14:37:51 *** liq3 [~liq3@CPE-120-147-178-81.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 14:40:04 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@95.76.27.245] has joined #openttd 14:40:54 <Eddi|zuHause> that's what virality is about 14:41:04 <Eddi|zuHause> besides, it was already posted here earlier 14:44:02 *** slonik [~KWKdesign@pool-72-94-147-76.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 14:44:12 *** liq3 [~liq3@CPE-120-147-178-81.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 14:45:21 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 14:48:30 *** liq3 [~liq3@CPE-120-147-178-81.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 14:50:36 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-72-94-147-76.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:53:01 *** liq3 [~liq3@CPE-120-147-178-81.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 14:59:57 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:05:54 *** engineerwolf [~engineerw@0001f8e6.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 15:09:13 *** engineerwolf is now known as Guest824 15:09:18 *** engineerwolf [~engineerw@0001f8e6.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 15:15:26 *** Guest824 [~engineerw@0001f8e6.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:23:32 *** Quatroking [~Quatrokin@ip226-139-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 15:24:05 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@cybertinus.customer.cloud.nl] has joined #openttd 15:36:12 *** liq3 [~liq3@CPE-120-147-178-81.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 15:43:27 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@95.76.27.245] has quit [] 15:43:31 *** engineerwolf [~engineerw@0001f8e6.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:43:48 *** engineerwolf [~engineerw@0001f8e6.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 15:45:35 *** engineerwolf [~engineerw@0001f8e6.user.oftc.net] has quit [] 15:55:00 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~flex@88.130.168.79] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:57:21 *** micky [~micky@p57AAB427.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:00:34 *** micky [~micky@p57AAB427.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 16:00:51 *** maxrules [~maxrules4@p57AAB427.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:01:36 *** maxrules [~maxrules4@p57AAB427.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 16:01:52 *** micky [~micky2@p57AAB427.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:03:00 *** micky [~micky2@p57AAB427.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 16:03:17 *** maxrules [~maxrules3@p57AAB427.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:07:53 *** Jinassi [~Jinassi@0001ec72.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:10:08 *** maxrules [~maxrules3@p57AAB427.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 16:15:48 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-140-173.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:15:51 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 16:16:03 *** DDR [~kvirc@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 16:21:34 <DDR> Good morning, #openttd. :) 16:25:31 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has left #openttd [] 16:25:42 *** Jinassi [~Jinassi@0001ec72.user.oftc.net] has quit [] 16:27:44 <Alberth> moin 16:29:36 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.27.245] has joined #openttd 16:31:54 *** Jinassi [~Jinassi@0001ec72.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:36:00 <planetmaker> moin 16:37:33 <Alberth> o/ 16:42:14 *** maxrules [~maxrules3@p57AAB427.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:46:33 *** TheMask96 [martijn@lust.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:49:57 *** Nijske [~oftc-webi@d54C2B7C7.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:50:05 <Nijske> hellow 16:50:10 <Nijske> dutch people here ? 16:50:20 <Jinassi> nnet 16:51:02 <Jinassi> anyone seen kamnet lately? 16:51:08 <Nijske> i need som help but my english is not so good 16:51:36 <Alberth> Jinassi: I have never seen him here, as far as I can remember 16:51:53 <Nijske> i am new on open ttd 16:52:03 <Jinassi> Alberth, thank you, he's harder to find than a midget hooker 16:52:08 <Alberth> Nijske: just try, we'll ask for clarification if things are not clear 16:52:17 <Nijske> ok thanks 16:52:21 <Alberth> Jinassi: PM on tt-forums? 16:52:37 <Nijske> i wont new industrie on my map 16:52:50 <Nijske> wat can i download best ? 16:52:58 *** TheMask96 [martijn@gluttony.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 16:53:01 <Nijske> in newGRF 16:53:13 <Alberth> there are 3 choices 16:54:02 <Alberth> 1. ECS, quite old, has stock piling, factories have an upper limit on what they accept 16:54:29 <Alberth> 2. FIRS, has supplies to increase production 16:54:57 <Alberth> 3. YETI, has workers, haven't played with it recently 16:55:15 <Nijske> ow ok 16:55:35 <Nijske> 3 is the best then ? 16:55:55 <Alberth> different people have different ideas on "best" 16:56:05 <Nijske> ow ok 16:56:19 <Nijske> and for ech of tem have you trains ? 16:56:24 <Alberth> best solution is to try all of them for a few games, and see how you like them 16:56:58 <Jinassi> Probeer ze en zie welke je wilt. Elk heeft een aantal instellingen om mee te spelen ook. 16:56:59 <Alberth> YETI is closely connected to the NUTS trainset 16:57:03 <Nijske> YETI is 1 download i see 16:57:11 <Alberth> a BIG one :D 16:57:24 <planetmaker> there generally is no 'best'. They're just different and cater different ways to play the game 16:57:44 <Nijske> ow ok 16:57:51 <Alberth> but you need a train newgrf if you play with industry sets 16:57:57 <planetmaker> you'll need to use train (and vehicle) sets in order to transport their cargos 16:58:01 <Nijske> but 1 download is good for yeti ? 16:58:17 <Alberth> almost any modern vehicle set will do 16:58:33 <planetmaker> all three sets can be obtained via ingame content download. Those are good, yes. 16:58:39 <planetmaker> As can train and road vehicle sets 16:58:52 <Nijske> yetieextendet towns&industry 16:59:19 <planetmaker> yes, that one. Can't exactly recommend one or the other trainset either... use what you like :) 16:59:52 <Alberth> if you like the standard trains, you can use the opengfx+trains 17:00:06 <Alberth> other nice sets are iron horse, or NUTS 17:00:17 <Nijske> ow ok 17:00:20 <planetmaker> or pineapple trains 17:00:28 <Alberth> if you want ships, I can recommend squid 17:00:37 <planetmaker> and planes via av9.8 17:01:19 <planetmaker> and vehicles... egrvts, ogfx+rv. And always add heqs 17:01:20 <Nijske> thanks fot the good help 17:01:47 <Alberth> you're welcome, if you have problems or questions, just drop in :) 17:02:28 <planetmaker> also, our forums at http://forum.openttd.org has many suggestions on newgrfs. As many views on the topic as it has members ;) 17:03:03 *** Jomann [~abchirk@p4FE2238F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:04:26 <Nijske> I understand english but not good typing 17:06:34 <Alberth> we understand what you're saying, that's what counts 17:07:02 <Nijske> you are currently playing the game? 17:09:02 <Alberth> no, I am cooking dinner 17:09:17 <Alberth> and I don't play the game very often 17:09:54 *** Nijske [~oftc-webi@d54C2B7C7.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:18:30 *** Klanticus_ [~quassel@189.35.191.133] has joined #openttd 17:21:41 *** Klanticus [~quassel@179.154.136.168] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:26:55 *** Nijske [~oftc-webi@d54C2B7C7.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:27:05 <Nijske> hmm i upload anther 17:27:27 <Nijske> 1 17:27:53 <Nijske> but i forgot number 2 17:29:31 <Alberth> @logs 17:29:31 <DorpsGek> Alberth: http://irclogs.qmsk.net/channels/openttd 17:29:37 <Jinassi> 1st ecs, 2nd firs, 3rd yeti 17:29:45 <Nijske> tanks 17:29:53 <Alberth> Nijske: ^^ is the log of the channel, you can read everything back 17:30:06 <Nijske> ok 17:30:32 <Jinassi> nifty addition 17:30:38 <Alberth> when you play FIRS, be sure to select a basic economy, eg basic temperate 17:32:17 <Nijske> how do you mean? 17:33:02 <Alberth> after activating FIRS, go to its settings, and select a different economy, before starting a game 17:33:16 <Nijske> ow ok 17:33:34 <Alberth> the standard setting is for "full firs" and that is a LOT of industries, you'll get lost completely 17:34:09 <Alberth> the basic economy is much smaller and easier to understand 17:34:15 <Nijske> in the beginning it might be better just standard game play? 17:34:34 <Nijske> so as the initial companies 17:35:26 <Alberth> indeed, you get lost very quickly if you don't know any industry 17:35:34 <Alberth> keep it simple at first 17:36:10 <Nijske> got it a few years ago played 17:37:33 <Nijske> find the firs look best 17:37:51 <Nijske> Most companies also 17:38:53 <Alberth> if you don't change the economy, firs has a lot of industries indeed 17:39:16 <Alberth> don't forget to load a train newgrf as well, or you cannot transport the cargo 17:40:24 <Nijske> what should I load then? 17:41:03 <Alberth> any train set will do, planet maker mentioned several of them 17:42:03 <Alberth> http://irclogs.qmsk.net/channels/openttd/link/1416934806#1416934806 17:43:21 <Alberth> iron horse train set and termite track grf will probably work well, they are from the same author as firs 17:43:34 <Alberth> I haven't tried them yet 17:44:18 <Nijske> ow ok 17:44:58 <Nijske> i have load iron horde 17:45:17 <Nijske> is that enough? 17:45:25 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r27067 trunk/src/lang/korean.txt (2014-11-25 17:45:18 UTC) 17:45:26 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:27 <DorpsGek> korean - 1 changes by telk5093 17:45:49 <Nijske> @dorpsgek dutch ? :D 17:45:53 *** SHOTbyGUN [shotbygun@213-186-253-83.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 17:46:30 <Alberth> termite tracks belong with iron horse, you should load them too 17:46:42 <Alberth> and yes, dorpsgek is a dutch fool :p 17:46:54 <Nijske> happened 17:46:59 <Nijske> nice :D 17:47:04 <Alberth> or 'idiot', probably 17:47:38 <Nijske> Have point 2 downloaded and then those two for trains 17:47:39 <Xaroth|Work> village idiot 17:48:00 <Nijske> then I start I suppose 17:48:12 * Nijske slaps DorpsGek around a bit with a large fishbot 17:48:22 <Nijske> oops 17:49:04 <Nijske> I must get away speak to you soon 17:49:17 <Alberth> bye, and have fun playing :) 17:49:21 <Nijske> thank you for the help 17:50:28 <Xaroth|Work> Alberth: you still working on rct? 17:50:40 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:50:43 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 17:51:27 *** Nijske [~oftc-webi@d54C2B7C7.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:55:18 <Alberth> Xaroth|Work: yep, and others 17:55:33 <Alberth> working on queuing of guests 17:55:49 <Xaroth|Work> nice 17:56:03 <Alberth> last weekend, I got toilets to keep guests inside for a while 17:56:14 <Alberth> and reject them when it's full 17:56:53 <Alberth> so now I should teach queuing paths to queue :p 18:00:36 *** maxrules [~maxrules3@p57AAB427.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 18:04:04 <Xaroth|Work> ghehe 18:06:01 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1905F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:28:10 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-5f747085.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 18:31:37 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C34C4.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 18:39:48 *** Nijske [~oftc-webi@d54C2B7C7.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 18:39:58 <Nijske> alberth ? 18:40:16 *** Pensacola [~quassel@c80094.upc-c.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:40:17 <Alberth> what do you want to know? 18:40:48 <Nijske> I uploading number 2 18:41:04 <Alberth> but in general, it's much more effective to just burst in with your question, and ask it in general, more people know more than one :) 18:41:34 <Nijske> There you can also use the industry standard in? 18:42:21 <Alberth> what is "the industry standard" ? 18:42:42 *** Klanticus [~quassel@189.35.191.133] has joined #openttd 18:42:51 <Nijske> the industry that you have when you have nothing uploads 18:43:54 <Alberth> oh, you want to have both the default industries and firs at the same time? 18:44:01 <Alberth> no that's not possible 18:44:35 <Alberth> so far, all industry newgrfs replace the default industries instead of adding to it 18:44:57 <Nijske> I always start in the desert but if your number 2 download you can do anything you like water can retrieve only 18:45:45 <Nijske> for any business you have nothing needed and there is too little money to earn something from the start: p 18:46:09 *** Klanticus_ [~quassel@189.35.191.133] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:46:16 <Alberth> a lot of people only play temperate climate, and not anything else 18:46:42 <Nijske> ow ok 18:46:44 <Alberth> firs has an economy for tropical if I remember correctly 18:47:22 <Nijske> ok thank you and sorry for disturbing 18:47:41 <Nijske> I try that way 18:48:04 <Alberth> if you try "Heart of Darkness" (the bottom entry) 18:48:14 <Alberth> that should work in tropical climate 18:48:36 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 18:48:43 <Alberth> but I don't know if it handles water, I never play for pax 18:48:49 <Alberth> ha, the expert! 18:48:50 <Nijske> I do not understand 18:48:54 <Alberth> hi andy 18:48:56 <andythenorth> lo 18:49:09 <Alberth> Nijske has a problem with firs, can you help? 18:49:32 <Nijske> tropical is not the desert? you can choose from four climates 18:49:52 <Alberth> tropical is the 3rd one 18:50:23 <Nijske> yes 18:51:00 <Alberth> andythenorth: apparently firs doesn't have water supplies for tropical? 18:51:08 <Nijske> but if for example you can start immediately make a train ride with water 18:51:25 <andythenorth> FIRS doesnât have water 18:51:32 <andythenorth> it substitutes something else 18:51:36 <andythenorth> dunno what 18:51:40 <andythenorth> town window will tell 18:51:53 <Nijske> but with that 2nd uploads have only factories where you need to make something for you can pick out something 18:52:42 <Eddi|zuHause> i think it was goods 18:53:08 <Nijske> goods ? 18:53:26 <Alberth> food and goods indeed 18:56:01 <Nijske> I'm testing it out 18:57:28 <Alberth> if you click on the name of a town you get a window describing what it needs 19:01:40 <Nijske> yes that I know but it's just something where factories produced when you make something so hard: D 19:02:39 *** Klanticus [~quassel@189.35.191.133] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:03:29 <Nijske> have found it XD thanks for your help 19:04:22 <Alberth> as I said, you are completely lost with the industries first :) 19:04:34 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 19:07:40 <Nijske> maybe it is difficult to start with so immediately 19:08:11 <Nijske> have the uploads are equally removed 19:08:54 <Alberth> it's normal to get lost, just like you are playing for the first time again 19:09:22 <Alberth> just take it easy, one step at a time 19:09:49 <Nijske> is certainly well I play normal playstation: p 19:11:03 <Alberth> OpenTTD is a game that takes time to learn, especially if you add newgrf 19:12:47 <Nijske> Certainly, that is why I will start as the beginning 19:20:03 *** Nijske [~oftc-webi@d54C2B7C7.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:28:25 *** Biolunar_ [mahdi@blfd-4db02232.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:37:02 *** George [~George@185.43.94.91] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:38:35 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host156-13-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 19:38:43 <Wolf01> hai 19:38:55 <Alberth> hi 19:44:30 *** JacobD88 [~Thunderbi@cpc20-stap11-2-0-cust392.12-2.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 19:50:37 *** George [~George@185.43.94.91] has joined #openttd 19:59:35 *** TomyLobo [~foo@ip5b417367.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #openttd 20:12:23 *** dreck [~oftc-webi@modemcable061.44-177-173.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 20:12:54 <dreck> trying to find something from forum atm but thought I'll try ask here too..any of you know what openttd seem to be looking for when wanting a heightmap file? 20:13:37 <frosch123> a greyscale png file 20:14:53 <frosch123> though i think every png image works, and ottd converts it to greyscale 20:16:04 <dreck> hmm not sure if its just some odd setting but what happens is I go to Save Heightmap .. then immedately go to Load Heightmap and its not even there even although its in the same working directory 20:16:16 <dreck> wondering if its botching up something while saving it in first place 20:20:12 <dreck> (like is there any particular gui or cli setting I could check?) 20:20:38 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 20:31:14 *** George [~George@185.43.94.91] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:38:56 *** George [~George@185.43.94.91] has joined #openttd 20:39:42 *** George [~George@185.43.94.91] has quit [] 20:43:27 <andythenorth> hrm 20:43:28 *** Jomann [~abchirk@p4FE2238F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:43:32 * andythenorth yak-shaving again 20:51:16 <dreck> AHA frosch I found what the problem had been the whole time and I think its a silly one in a weird way... 20:52:07 <dreck> somehow the heightmap appeared to use the Screenshot setting which is currently set to pcx .. and the dialog for heightmap save/load somehow can't deal with anothing that isn't png 20:54:40 *** Yotson [~Yotson@2001:980:6ac8:1:3d6a:260:29e0:11f4] has quit [Quit: .] 20:55:01 <frosch123> yeah, it's on the list of settings to remove from the gui, so it cannot be messed up 20:55:27 <andythenorth> something in my partial compile makes grfs that openttd canât use 20:55:30 <andythenorth> how interesting 20:55:52 <andythenorth> or Eandythenorth 20:55:55 <andythenorth> which is more plausible? 20:56:52 <dreck> frosch whats weird is why Screenshot would have anything to do with Heightmap 20:57:01 <dreck> the two should be separated for sure 20:57:37 <andythenorth> because reasons :) 20:57:58 <dreck> I temporately set it to png to make the heightmap function for now..will have to switch back to pcx when I'm done with the map creation 20:58:19 <dreck> andythenorth if its supposed to be there then at least make the heightmap code accept non-png files :P 20:58:27 <dreck> or separate it from Screenshot ;) 20:58:38 <andythenorth> yes 20:58:40 <andythenorth> reasons 20:58:43 <Alberth> don't use pcx 21:00:20 <dreck> Alberth tell that to the heightmap code 21:00:58 <Alberth> no need to, it already doesn't use anything else but png 21:01:32 <dreck> so why did it try to save as pcx even although it couldn't understand that? 21:03:06 <frosch123> why did you switch to pcx in the first place? 21:05:17 <dreck> frosch where did openttd said it was using pcx for heightmap? 21:05:20 <dreck> that'll answer your question 21:05:35 <frosch123> no, why did you set pcx for screenshots? 21:05:55 <Eddi|zuHause> why did we not remove pcx yet? 21:05:57 <dreck> and again..what does screenshot have to do with heightmap? 21:06:18 <Eddi|zuHause> i haven't seen a pcx in at least a decade 21:06:25 <frosch123> that's not the point. ottd only supports pcx because noone removed it 21:06:28 <frosch123> why are you using it? 21:06:31 <dreck> eddi well its still in use by many editors 21:06:49 <frosch123> are you on dos or something? 21:07:30 <dreck> nope 21:07:46 <frosch123> i have a drawing program in dosbox 21:07:54 <frosch123> something from 92, pcx was awesome 21:09:37 <frosch123> dreck: still, the plan is to remove the pcx setting from the gui. so i wonder why anyone would activate it 21:09:57 <dreck> because its much easier for me to use than going through some third party app to convert it over 21:10:40 <frosch123> you are saying you use something that supports pcx, but not png? :o 21:11:01 <dreck> it'll take png but not in as good colors 21:11:26 <frosch123> err, they are both lossless 21:11:29 <frosch123> there is no difference 21:13:34 <Eddi|zuHause> i feel like i'm watching one of these comedies where two people are talking about two completely different things 21:13:44 <Eddi|zuHause> and don't realize it 21:14:20 <planetmaker> hi hi 21:14:33 <frosch123> hai pm :) 21:15:50 <frosch123> oi, i wanted to ask pm something about post_build, but apparently pm already changed it :p 21:15:53 <planetmaker> lol, this pcx conversation is highly funny 21:16:12 <planetmaker> frosch123, yeah, I saw that you mentioned it. Thought I have a brief look 21:16:33 <planetmaker> the alternative build VM basically is not properly setup for py3. Thus I disabled it for nml... not used anyhow 21:17:15 <planetmaker> it was more challenging to install pillow for py3 on debian than I recall. Thus I postponed that 21:17:32 <andythenorth> dreck: to shortcut 21:17:39 <andythenorth> itâs only in pcx because reasons 21:17:48 <andythenorth> itâs not particularly by design 21:18:42 <planetmaker> oh, and the other thing was that indeed the c module wasn't built for the version CF used. But that was just a minor addition, too 21:19:02 <frosch123> yup, saw it 21:19:25 <frosch123> i wanted to link you to hg and ask, but then wondered why the second ssh was commented out 21:19:37 <frosch123> first i questioned my sanity from the other day, but then i checked for new commits :p 21:19:41 <andythenorth> eh? my buy menu sprites are truncating 21:19:44 * andythenorth mumble mumble 21:19:47 <andythenorth> fixes 21:19:52 <dreck> heh 21:24:12 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-140-173.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 21:32:37 *** MTs-iPad [~MTs-iPad@008-086-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has joined #openttd 21:33:27 *** Quatroking [~Quatrokin@ip226-139-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:35:25 *** Quatroking [~Quatrokin@ip226-139-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 21:36:05 <planetmaker> frosch123, can I document better how things work? 21:36:22 <planetmaker> I'm a bit uneasy if only I understand how things work :P 21:36:39 <planetmaker> and I didn't even manage to have ^Spike^ understand it either :P 21:36:58 <frosch123> i wanted to document how to install mingw inside wine, but didn't find a place where to add it :p 21:37:33 <planetmaker> :D 21:38:36 <planetmaker> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/home/wiki/DevZone_Administration might be a place to link a new page to that topic 21:38:56 <planetmaker> or from the main help page http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/home/wiki 21:39:16 <planetmaker> alternatively always the openttd wiki could hold such knowledge, too 21:42:23 <frosch123> well, if there would have been a single ssh in post_build (like it is now), i would probably have figured it out 21:42:47 <frosch123> but that there were two surprised me, since i couldn't remember to see them in action 21:45:12 *** itsatacoshop247 [~itsatacos@2601:9:1180:b9c:f16d:3c7a:3ff5:b6bc] has joined #openttd 21:53:38 <dreck> andythenorth there any chance you could answer a quick question re a somewhat "annoyed" FIRS industry? :) 21:54:45 <andythenorth> whatâs it annoyed about? 21:55:03 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:55:27 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 21:56:05 <dreck> ah, just curious if its something specific I haven't thought of but is there any particular landscaping shape the Bulk Terminal requires? 21:56:10 <andythenorth> yes 21:56:11 <andythenorth> itâs borked 21:56:18 <dreck> I've been able to place the Port and Harbour but ... ehhh not this particular one 21:56:24 <andythenorth> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/7064 21:56:42 <dreck> ah I should had thought to check the dev list too..not just forum...doh... 21:56:43 * dreck looks 21:56:47 <andythenorth> hmm 21:56:55 <andythenorth> I thought I made a screenie recently 21:56:57 <andythenorth> maybe not 21:57:11 <andythenorth> anyway it only builds on SW-NE slopes afaict 21:57:27 <andythenorth> and you need a shape like â\_______/ 21:57:40 <dreck> well there is "sorta" a screenshot in the docs/industry.html list but it doesn't really show the terrain underneath the building 21:58:00 <andythenorth> itâs a bug 21:58:02 <dreck> ah..so a bumpout shoreline? hmm let me try that and see if I figure it out 21:58:09 <andythenorth> itâs annoying 21:58:57 <dreck> oh oh I BUILT ONE! :-> 21:59:30 <dreck> I just had it bumped out by one tile long and two tiles wide .. and was able to build it now :) 21:59:43 <dreck> cheers for the instruction above tho 22:01:31 <dreck> at least its a lot easier than some of these strange Tourist buildings (I think it was a ecs thing? been awhile that I can't recall) which required a specific shape of hill to build onto 22:03:21 <dreck> while you're here I just want to tell you one thing: I -love- HEQS 22:03:22 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 22:03:22 <dreck> ;) 22:03:50 <dreck> I'll admit I've rarely used the "offroad" vehicles but even then I like the trucks and trams :) 22:05:27 <andythenorth> dreck: you could screenshot your successful build and post it to FIRS thread :P 22:05:31 <andythenorth> it keeps coming up 22:06:14 <dreck> heh well...I could maybe make a screenshot of my map when I'm done creating it :) 22:07:50 <dreck> the strange thing about FIRS is that the fishing ground reminds me of MB's original (or thats what I suspect) release of that a long time ago 22:08:25 <andythenorth> there are reasons 22:08:29 <andythenorth> for that too 22:08:43 <dreck> he had beer too didn't he? :P 22:08:43 <andythenorth> only so many ways to skin that cat 22:08:46 * dreck gets drunk 22:08:53 <dreck> heh 22:09:22 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1905F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:09:24 <dreck> mind you I still use newstationsw once in a while even although I usually have the japan station loaded 22:21:57 * andythenorth -> bed 22:21:57 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has left #openttd [] 22:22:13 <Wolf01> me too 22:22:17 <Wolf01> 'night 22:22:26 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:22:59 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C34C4.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/nkczDT] 22:29:26 <planetmaker> dreck, for a NewGRF author not an entire map screenshot is interesting, but nice screenshots which show their stuff in action 22:29:51 <planetmaker> which definitely needs no waiting "till finished" 22:31:46 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.27.245] has quit [] 22:32:48 *** keoz [~keikoz@65.ip-37-59-96.eu] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0] 22:33:02 <Eddi|zuHause> i was never "finished" with a map... 22:35:11 *** Suicyder [~Suicyder@86.92.59.88] has quit [Quit: Want to be different? 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