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Log for #openttd on 18th September 2015:
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07:05:18  <NGC3982> :P
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07:49:34  <planetmaker> wito, adding NewGRFs is mostly safe - but only if you know the limitations. Thus: no changes to anything which touches cargoes or industries
07:49:54  <planetmaker> and it can take you by surprise which NewGRFs are hidden industry sets...
07:50:29  * planetmaker looks at TTRS. At NARS with its gear cargo (not NARS2),...
07:50:35  <planetmaker> thus know *very well* what you do
07:52:16  <Pikka> actually, regearing is NARS2
07:52:21  <Pikka> <2.5 :)
07:56:35  <planetmaker> oh, sorry. Bad memory :)
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09:12:50  <wito> Good to know.
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09:43:27  <Wolf01> o/
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10:46:25  <wito> \o
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10:53:03  <planetmaker> wito, mind also, what I stated is of course not a comprehensive list. But if  cargo or industry is touched, it's a near-guarantee for disaster
10:53:34  <planetmaker> *guaranty
11:02:18  <wito> Nope.
11:02:22  <wito> You had it right the first time.
11:02:25  <wito> guarantee
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14:50:19  <Alberth> hi hi
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16:33:41  <DanMacK> @seen andythenorth
16:33:41  <DorpsGek> DanMacK: andythenorth was last seen in #openttd 19 hours, 25 minutes, and 56 seconds ago: <andythenorth> also
16:33:48  <DanMacK> Hey all
16:34:44  <Alberth> hihi
16:35:30  <Alberth> all setup for andy to find your usual quote :)
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16:40:45  <andythenorth> DanMacK: hi
16:40:50  <andythenorth> @seen DanMacK
16:40:50  <DorpsGek> andythenorth: DanMacK was last seen in #openttd 7 minutes and 2 seconds ago: <DanMacK> Hey all
16:42:14  <DanMacK> lol
16:42:23  <andythenorth> I pm-ed you
16:42:28  <andythenorth> but eh, Lake Louise? o_O
16:42:32  <andythenorth> or Banff Springs?
16:42:38  <__ln__> you planetmaker-ed him?
16:42:43  <andythenorth> yeah
16:47:04  <DanMacK> Generic... lol
16:47:25  <DanMacK> Sure
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17:41:18  * wito thwaps you with a cat.
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17:59:47  <andythenorth> is cat
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18:17:13  <andythenorth> quak
18:17:59  <frosch123> hoi
18:18:59  <frosch123> there is a cargoclass discussion on the forums, and andy is not involved. what happened?
18:21:19  <andythenorth> I was talking to DanMacK about actually making actual things :)
18:21:33  <andythenorth> I only talk bollocks when there’s nobody to make things with
18:21:43  * andythenorth just needs enough collaborators :P
18:21:54  <frosch123> thanks danmack :)
18:21:55  * andythenorth hates making things alone
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18:23:17  <andythenorth> oh
18:23:19  <andythenorth> “I'm trying to force a particular cargo to be carried by box cars (trains) or a goods truck (road) only"
18:23:26  <andythenorth> I should tell 3iff what he’s doing wrong there :)
18:25:19  <frosch123> poor 3iff
18:26:27  * andythenorth replied
18:26:51  <andythenorth> hmm
18:27:06  * andythenorth owes the world an updated cdist wiki page
18:28:13  <andythenorth> Distribution Accuracy: so if this is set to 32, and the linkgraph contains 32 valid destinations, cdist will try to route cargo to all of them, unless cargo_amount/32 is too small
18:28:22  <andythenorth> is my understanding
18:29:51  * andythenorth wonders what happens if > 32 (or > n where n is accuracy)
18:30:27  <andythenorth> also how it interacts with demand curve
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18:39:44  <andythenorth> yeah, accuracy is used in the calculation that scales demand by the distance factor
18:39:53  <andythenorth> but I am not smart enough to reliably understand it :P
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18:42:11  <fonsinchen> andythenorth: It's about the amount of supply. If you have 1024 monthly supply at station A and 8 targets and accuracy == 32, it will try to get 128 supply to each node and divide the supply into chunks of 128 / 32 == 4.
18:44:01  <andythenorth> and if you have 16 targets, it will try to get 64 supply to each node?  So chunks of 2
18:44:25  <fonsinchen> Yes. When the remaining supply goes below the accuracy, so that the division doesn't work anymore it will distribute 1 at a time and draw random numbers to decide which destination gets some.
18:44:36  <andythenorth> dice roll
18:45:18  <andythenorth> can the random choice repeat a destination, or is it expired from the choices after being selected?
18:46:10  <fonsinchen> actually it's not really random. The destinations later in the list get it.
18:47:05  <fonsinchen> it probably can server the same destination twice. Someone has to analyze that algorithm ...
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18:56:37  <andythenorth> it probably doesn’t matter at all for gameplay :)
18:56:50  <andythenorth> if it’s not obvious, I’ll leave it out of docs
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21:48:55  <wito> Oh, you gotta love Engrish sometimes.
21:49:41  <wito> The Cargo EMU M250 running in Japan is branded as, of course, "Super Rail Cargo[!]".
21:52:26  <Eddi|zuHause> what exactly is the problem there?
21:53:35  <wito> Well, in isolation the English is fine.
21:55:03  <wito> But to my ear, at least, it's just not something a European or American would ever brand a type of train.
21:55:41  <wito> cf. the similar German rolling stock, CargoSprinter
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21:56:34  <Eddi|zuHause> i still don't understand your problem with it
21:56:41  <wito> I didn't say I had a problem with it.
21:56:54  <wito> It's just an odd thing to call a model of train.
21:57:07  <wito> To my ear.
22:02:38  <wito> Hmm...
22:02:42  <wito> 3000 PAX waiting.
22:02:45  <wito> That's a lot.
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23:32:13  <Wolf01> 'night
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23:47:38  <Eddi|zuHause> i've had stations with like 30000 passengers waiting
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