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00:10:43 *** drac_boy [~oftc-webi@72.1.195.4] has joined #openttd 00:10:45 <drac_boy> hi 00:24:20 <drac_boy> I know this is another ot-ish subject but any of you ever seen a recent/modern tram (the kind with all-low floors and sectional body yeah) that didn't always run on urban paths? (I'm sure there probably has to be at least one example of rural running with no houses around but heh who knows) 00:30:15 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@dns25-175.cbu.edu] has joined #openttd 00:32:28 <strohalm> jop 00:33:14 <strohalm> linie 8 or 9 in Darmstadt to the south 00:33:26 <strohalm> maybe in jena, too 00:36:00 <drac_boy> interesting, this does look nice http://sporvognsrejser.dk/fotos/fotos/darmstadt-2001-01.jpg 00:36:57 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6A91A.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:40:17 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@dns25-175.cbu.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:41:32 <Mazur> We had a stretch of farmland tram between The Hague and Leidschendam when the latter got its first tram extension from the Hague, before the bit separating them got all housed up. 00:42:54 <Mazur> But I think the sectional trams only got in play after the build-up. 00:43:38 <drac_boy> mazur yeah makes sense, only assign bigger trams when traffic warranty it 00:44:13 <drac_boy> either way, I was sure I couldn't be too far off with running trams past very few buildings and this seem to confirm that :) 00:48:56 <Wolf01> 'night 00:48:59 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 00:50:56 <Mazur> Also, Leidschendam had previously built a fairly large mall just before the trams came, initially, and they started a feedback effect where they increased demand for each other. 00:51:25 *** DDR [~David@S0106602ad0773a2e.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 00:51:41 <Mazur> Quite a few shops benefited from not having to maintain a store in the more expensive Hague inner city. 00:52:54 <Mazur> And a tram ride between those two locations is about 10-15 minutes, icluding walking. 00:55:09 <drac_boy> nice 00:55:16 *** fjb [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:57:19 *** fjb [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 01:01:31 <Eddi|zuHause> drac_boy: the tram line between Halle (Saale) and Bad DÃŒrrenberg has a long countryside stretch 01:02:25 <Eddi|zuHause> (it's said to be the longest tram line in the world) 01:02:43 <Eddi|zuHause> (that probably excludes some train/tram hybrids) 01:17:17 <FLHerne> drac_boy: Metrolink (Bury and Rochdale lines) runs through rural areas on ex-railway alignments 01:17:39 <FLHerne> High-floor trams (because of the existing platforms), but modern articulated ones 01:20:37 <FLHerne> http://www.britishtramsonline.co.uk/news/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/kw-3061-milnrow-550x412.jpg 01:24:37 <drac_boy> "that looks like no eurostar, what the hell is it?" :P hehehehe 01:26:10 <Eddi|zuHause> the tram systems of Kassel and Karlsruhe have some tram/train hybrids 01:26:27 <drac_boy> anyway going off for now..will look up more of these tomorrow so cheers anyhow 01:26:33 * drac_boy zzzs 01:26:36 *** drac_boy [~oftc-webi@72.1.195.4] has left #openttd [] 01:26:52 <FLHerne> Going to have those in Sheffield, supposedly from 2017 01:27:16 <FLHerne> Still no actual progress, despite being proposed for years 01:28:05 <Supercheese> probably still working out better than California's high-speed rail plans 01:30:20 <Eddi|zuHause> can't beat airports in berlin :p 01:30:54 <Eddi|zuHause> (or just outside berlin) 01:58:46 <Mazur> Well, the USA never really took to public transport in the way Europe did. 02:44:29 *** efess [~Efess@c-24-61-64-170.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:46:27 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:07:18 *** efess [~Efess@c-24-61-64-170.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 03:10:11 *** JGR [~JGR@host86-135-162-94.range86-135.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:15:30 *** JGR [~JGR@host81-129-182-127.range81-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 03:53:43 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@108-221-158-76.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 03:59:34 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: 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[Quit: There's a real world out here!] 13:20:38 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 13:42:34 *** shirish [~quassel@59.88.97.233] has joined #openttd 13:50:07 *** DDR [~David@S0106602ad0773a2e.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:57:43 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 14:02:20 <V453000> fuck the illness of diagonal roads hit factorio as well 14:02:20 <V453000> [14:59] <_aD> Diagonal belts [14:59] <_aD> that's what we need. 14:02:29 <Wolf01> looool 14:03:33 <Wolf01> i can understand diagonal inserters 14:03:53 <Wolf01> but i really don't need diagonal belts ;) 14:06:58 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@95.76.27.245] has joined #openttd 14:07:44 *** Hiddenfunstuff [~Geth@y32.ip1.anvianet.fi] has joined #openttd 14:17:00 <fjb> Moin 14:57:58 <Mazur> Mafternun. 15:01:36 <V453000> hello beautiful 15:02:31 <Mazur> Hello, gorgeous. 15:04:25 <Mazur> Anyone here reasonably versed in Perl-Gtk? 15:07:50 <Mazur> No better response than I expected. 15:17:26 <peter1138> Crazy talk. 15:17:50 <Wolf01> i just made a dependency injection container in c# if this could alleviate your sufferings 15:26:01 <andythenorth> I brute-force fixed some nasty css 15:26:06 <andythenorth> any use? 15:26:35 <Wolf01> brute force development is really what i use everyday 15:27:16 <Wolf01> it took me just 2 hours of work today... to write 15 lines of code 15:27:53 <andythenorth> it took me 25 mins to remove border-bottom from two types of element 15:28:00 <andythenorth> whilst leaving it on a third type 15:28:09 <andythenorth> bonkers 15:28:23 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@108-221-158-76.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 15:28:25 <Wolf01> have you tried to use classes? 15:28:36 <andythenorth> :P 15:28:41 <Wolf01> :D 15:28:53 <Wolf01> moar classes! 15:29:08 <andythenorth> #survey-map #pages .questions li.current-question a.sidebar-question-name-link 15:29:21 <andythenorth> ^ this kind of thing really does not help 15:29:35 <andythenorth> moar classes! 15:29:39 <andythenorth> or rather, fewer please 15:29:45 <andythenorth> moar components 15:33:22 <Wolf01> the graphics designer guy, where i worked since some time ago, started to use pseudo-namespaces as css classes, also he uses SASS/SCSS to do everything 15:34:25 <andythenorth> yes 15:34:29 <andythenorth> these are good things 15:35:04 <andythenorth> when you have 7000 lines of existing CSS, on an app that canât be re-written (yet), times are sadder 15:35:30 <andythenorth> :) 15:35:46 <Wolf01> i know the struggle 15:37:04 * _dp_ just finished watching video about BEM 15:39:01 <_dp_> turns out there is some nice logic behind those monstrous class names %) 15:42:07 <Mazur> mice logic? 15:55:20 *** sayikah [~oftc-webi@subs14-223-255-230-104.three.co.id] has joined #openttd 16:01:48 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has joined #openttd 16:01:51 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 16:03:34 *** 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Anyone got an effective solution to keeping ottd save games synced across multiple devices? Atm my plan is to symlink the save folder into my google drive sync folder, but would a private server be better if I have the facilities? 21:51:02 <m1cr0man> As in, a private ottd server 22:00:36 <planetmaker> it wouldn't matter, I think 22:02:57 * andythenorth -> bed 22:02:58 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has left #openttd [] 22:04:03 <Rubidium> I would use/suggest sftpfs, but then my savegames aren't important enough to be put in the backup plan 22:08:45 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 22:14:56 *** oskari892 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:19:46 *** Geth [~Geth@y32.ip1.anvianet.fi] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Wibbly Wobbly IRC] 22:21:22 *** oskari892 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 22:26:49 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6ADF4.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:27:01 <m1cr0man> Alright grive it is. Another question: Does anyone play the android port? Idk if its my phone or not but I cant click on in-game objects for extra info, eg towns, stations, factories. The GUI buttons work fine though. Can anyone confirm this? 22:27:56 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:29:52 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1901D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:32:00 <m1cr0man> Actually, it seems I cant interact with the world itself at all except look around... 22:33:15 <Guest7087> There we go. 22:33:19 <Guest7087> What 22:33:19 <Eddi|zuHause> you're better off asking that in the thread 22:33:20 <Guest7087> Wait. 22:33:23 *** Guest7087 is now known as NGC3982 22:33:58 <Eddi|zuHause> NGC3982: it still followed the <word><number> scheme :p 22:36:16 <m1cr0man> Eddi|zuHause, will do then. I've tried a few things now so I'm pretty confident its a bug. Its just...the game is literally not playable. I'd be surprised if its not some other software on my phone 22:37:35 *** oskari892 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 22:42:18 <_dp_> hm, when I tried android port I found it unplayable even though everything seemed to be working as supposed :) 22:42:33 <glx> too small screen for me :) 22:43:30 <NGC3982> Eddi|zuHause: :P 22:43:42 <_dp_> yeah, and too much effort to build anything 22:43:57 <NGC3982> Eddi|zuHause: When i come to think of it, it kind of defined the same thing in different sizes. 22:44:26 <_dp_> and adorable ctrl/shift buttons ;) 22:45:07 <Eddi|zuHause> NGC3982: how fractal :) 22:59:32 *** Biolunar [Biolunar@x5d82383b.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:00:06 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@108-221-158-76.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 23:07:04 *** gelignite [~gelignite@mue-88-130-118-111.dsl.tropolys.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/1kso8Ta] 23:13:21 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving]