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Log for #openttd on 16th December 2015:
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00:02:28  <Wolf01> 'night
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09:02:31  <andythenorth> o/
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09:53:52  <andythenorth> lo Alberth
09:54:05  <Alberth> moin
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10:12:40  <planetmaker> o/
10:13:03  <andythenorth> lo planetmaker
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10:39:57  <Wolf01> o/
10:39:58  <Alberth> o/
10:40:24  * andythenorth digging through too many calls :(
10:40:43  <andythenorth> this call stack includes the word “Factory” so you know it’s going to be a PITA
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10:44:12  <Wolf01> andy, do you have some time for a suggestion (pixel art)?
10:44:19  <andythenorth> yes
10:44:25  <peter1138> If it has a FactoryFactory... run away...
10:44:37  <andythenorth> or delete it
10:44:39  <andythenorth> it’s my code :P
10:44:45  <Eddi|zuHause> RefactoringFactory
10:44:52  <andythenorth> valid
10:45:23  * andythenorth will put some print() statements in
10:45:27  <andythenorth> and refuse to learn pdb
10:45:50  <Wolf01> andy: http://irclogs.qmsk.net/channels/openttd/date/2015-12-15 about at the half of the page (12:45)
10:45:57  <Eddi|zuHause> what's there to learn about pdb?
10:46:13  <Eddi|zuHause> you only need 4 commands, bt, up, down and p
10:47:40  <andythenorth> Wolf01: you need someone to draw it?
10:47:57  <Wolf01> no, just some suggestions on how to start drawing it
10:48:11  <andythenorth> got a palette of colours?
10:48:11  <Eddi|zuHause> oh, also the way to call it: i usually do "python -i program.py" let it crash, and then "import pdb; pdb.pm()"
10:48:23  <Wolf01> no, i'm starting from scratch
10:48:33  <Wolf01> but i want to keep it cartoon-ish
10:48:34  <andythenorth> I often draw in false colour to get the shape
10:49:10  <andythenorth> for cartoon-ish, try ‘4 pixels = 1 pixel in the art'
10:49:14  <andythenorth> it will be blockier
10:49:36  <andythenorth> you can also use over-defined edges
10:49:53  <andythenorth> e.g. black edges for shade, not-quite-white colours for highlight
10:49:57  <Wolf01> that for sure
10:52:53  <andythenorth> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/7566/HEQS-example-zoomed.png
10:54:15  <Wolf01> any suggestion on what to animate on a top-down view of a tank?
10:54:26  <Wolf01> on isometric view it looks really nice
10:54:41  <andythenorth> turret
10:54:49  <andythenorth> does speed ever change?
10:55:10  <Wolf01> the turret is fixed as the game does not require it moving, the speed changes on the road tiles
10:55:15  <andythenorth> animate exhaust
10:55:36  <andythenorth> I would leave tracks behind it also
10:55:46  <andythenorth> possibly only after turning/starting/stopping
10:55:54  * andythenorth misses game design
10:56:23  <Wolf01> i'll think about that on advanced development stage
10:56:40  <andythenorth> maybe I should learn iOS development :P
10:56:44  <andythenorth> or Unity
10:56:55  <Wolf01> for now i want it just to be a remake of an old nes game
10:57:11  <Wolf01> then i'll add new features
10:58:37  <andythenorth> yay, found the missing import
10:59:17  <Wolf01> http://screensider.com/images/albums/768/XjvDg8.jpg
10:59:19  <Wolf01> this
11:00:35  <andythenorth> retro :)
11:01:00  <Wolf01> also it is fully moddable, for now you need just to keep the right sprite sizes because it will stretch them, in future i'll convert it to a grf-like system where you can define everything
11:01:32  <Wolf01> so i might also steal the old graphics and release a hidden "grf" with it :P
11:07:56  <andythenorth> hmm
11:08:13  <andythenorth> 40 mins of digging through pixa call stacks is still preferable to drawing all cargos for all dump trucks :P
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12:06:55  <__ln__> everybody prepared? lightsabers recharged, etc?
12:08:09  <Eddi|zuHause> has been delayed for about 2 weeks for scheduling reasons
12:09:47  <__ln__> aww
12:10:14  <__ln__> actually, i don't have a lightsaber nor other equipment either.
12:10:36  <__ln__> if i owned Spock ears, i would wear them. but i don't.
12:11:33  <Wolf01> i have cat ears
12:11:52  <Wolf01> a wolf with cat ears...
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12:51:54  <andythenorth> mercurial is not friends with photoshop :(
12:53:44  <andythenorth> hg st frequently reports changes, for which there is no diff
12:53:47  <Wolf01> adobe is not friend with CVS, the CVS integration wants to do everything by its head
12:53:59  <andythenorth> the only ‘change’ is that the file is sat open in photoshop for a few hours
12:54:23  <andythenorth> this is a newly introduced problem after I upgraded mercurial because I had ancient version
12:57:18  <andythenorth> nvm
13:00:17  <andythenorth> hmm
13:00:24  <andythenorth> accidentally made a 2-truck convoy
13:00:29  <andythenorth> wrong trailer graphics
13:00:32  <andythenorth> looks good though
13:00:36  <andythenorth> moar power per unit
13:01:14  <Wolf01> :D
13:05:28  * andythenorth needs more oil rigs
13:06:44  * andythenorth spends 500million Krone
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15:30:26  <Wolf01> meh, client's site compromised by a backdoor
15:30:33  <andythenorth> :o
15:30:40  <andythenorth> that’s unusual
15:30:52  <andythenorth> usually it’s compromised because the password is passw0rd
15:31:20  <Wolf01> they just put a malicious script in wp-admin/user
15:31:44  <Wolf01> i don't even know how they were able to do that because i only have ftp access and wp login
15:32:36  <andythenorth> always WP, spoiling christmas
15:33:03  <Wolf01> i decrypted that thing and it was full of php ini commands, sendmail stuff, bruteforce attacks on ftp etc
15:33:29  <Wolf01> then the antivirus punched me in the stomach and deleted the file
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15:40:55  <Wolf01> http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2439342/mac-anti-malware-app-maker-stored-13-million-customer-details-in-plain-sight hah!
15:41:29  <andythenorth> MacKeeper is not anti-malware
15:41:33  <andythenorth> it _is_ malware
15:41:37  <Wolf01> yes
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18:17:26  <Wolf01> bye
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18:20:29  <andythenorth> quak
18:21:34  <frosch123> hoin
18:21:44  <andythenorth> maybe this map is done
18:21:51  <andythenorth> 52 years of Arctic Basic
18:22:26  * andythenorth has made enough Volvos and Saabs now
18:28:26  <andythenorth> Alberth: FWIW, Busy Bee seems largely fixed
18:28:40  <andythenorth> the number of repeated goals was low, as a proportion of total goals
18:28:55  <Alberth> great
18:28:56  <andythenorth> and very few non-repeating-but-already-served goals appeared
18:29:39  <Alberth> maybe I should try that arctic basic :)
18:29:44  <andythenorth> maybe :)
18:29:51  <andythenorth> it’s a good 40 year game
18:29:56  <andythenorth> ‘chemicals go everywhere’ :P
18:32:29  * andythenorth tries to get a good tropic map
18:34:28  <andythenorth> ach forget tropic :P
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18:43:09  <__ln__> who would have believed that ________ is _________'s __________!
18:43:34  <frosch123> stop playing cah
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18:51:30  <andythenorth> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U05REo2cd2M
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20:52:00  <__ln__> http://i.imgur.com/mOTHgnf.jpg  (not for frosch123 or Alberth)
20:52:33  <Alberth> getting highlighted for not seeing something :p
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