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Log for #openttd on 23rd December 2015:
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01:05:23  <Cybernator> Hello im looking for someone who could help me with the android version i got a bluetooth mouse connected and i see both android cursor and openttd one id like to hide one of them thanks!
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01:24:56  <Mazur> I've no idea, sorry.
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01:39:21  <Cybernator> Np thanks Mazur
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01:49:43  <glx> we don't make the android version
02:08:32  <Cybernator> Hey glx where could i ask instead? Thanks
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02:13:58  <glx> probably at https://github.com/pelya/commandergenius/issues
02:16:23  <Eddi|zuHause> there's a thread in the forum
02:22:07  <glx> and I think it's more related to the libsdl android port than openttd
02:22:55  <glx> because openttd tells sdl to hide the cursor
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06:12:21  <Irving> Hello
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07:17:44  <andythenorth> christmas cat
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07:24:42  <Rubidium> not "longest day of the year" cat?
07:25:05  <andythenorth> was that yesterday?
07:25:11  <andythenorth> or today?
07:25:13  <Rubidium> yup
07:25:24  * andythenorth doesn’t know much about equinoxes
07:25:58  <Rubidium> oh, it's even weirder
07:26:23  * andythenorth -> wikipedia
07:26:54  <andythenorth> oh it’s solstice not equinox :P
07:26:55  <Rubidium> in any case, now it takes about 24 hours and 30 seconds for the sun to go from highest point in the sky to highest point in the sky
07:28:01  <andythenorth> and it’s instant around the world :o
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09:46:40  <Flygon_> Dumb question
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09:47:09  <Flygon> Does anyone else run ground-level railroads between streets/buildings before Road Vehicles can pick up the slack?
09:47:23  <Flygon> aka. grabbing straws to justify 2CC Railmotors xP
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10:03:48  <Flygon> Sheet
10:03:54  <Flygon> Where's the Object Transparency Toggle?
10:03:58  <Flygon> I'm tripping the heck out
10:04:22  <Flygon> Found it
10:04:24  <Flygon> Disregard me
10:04:32  <Flygon> I suck clocks
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10:08:49  <Eddi|zuHause> you suck dutch wooden shoes?
10:09:02  <Eddi|zuHause> is that a fetishß
10:09:19  <Eddi|zuHause> s/ß/?/
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10:09:29  <andythenorth> did I arrive at the wrong time?
10:09:51  <Eddi|zuHause> no, it's not about when you arrive, but that you leave at all...
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10:18:47  <blathijs> Eddi|zuHause: Those would be klompen, not clocks :-)
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10:22:29  <Flygon> Clogs
10:22:30  <Flygon> Clocks
10:22:38  <Flygon> Same word in Finnish phonology!
10:28:37  <Rubidium> oh buoy ;)
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10:57:47  <frosch123> boy buys buoy
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11:04:11  <Wolf01> hi o/
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12:42:15  <argoneus> good morning train friends
12:43:01  * andythenorth apparently has a smaller than expected tax bill
12:43:14  <andythenorth> £6500 smaller than expected :o
12:44:33  <Flygon> You know you're playing early era OpenTTD
12:44:46  <Flygon> When it's preferable to have a flat junction instead of an incline
12:46:36  <Rubidium> andythenorth: I'd like that as well
12:47:25  <andythenorth> I am not yet sure I believe it
12:53:35  <Rubidium> is it actually income tax or something else
12:54:17  <Rubidium> I'd wonder why you get that expected number right now
12:55:13  <frosch123> yeah, usually all companies do their tax stuff between christmas and sylvester
12:55:18  <frosch123> andy is way too early
12:55:55  <Rubidium> because for next year the tax rules have just been agreed upon, so they wouldn't have managed to give any real clue about that and this year hasn't ended yet... so how do you know how much income you had this year?
12:56:23  <andythenorth> 2014-15 tax year
12:56:51  <Rubidium> from when to when are your tax years then?
12:57:07  <andythenorth> April - March following year
12:57:41  <andythenorth> file the return in December, pay in January
12:59:15  <andythenorth> but I also have to pay ‘on account’ for the next year
12:59:22  <andythenorth> which is an estimated amount
12:59:52  <andythenorth> because the ‘on account’ estimation was way too high, I’ve already paid the entire tax bill, so nothing to pay in Jan
13:00:13  <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: unlike the cat and the action guy, it's actually spelled "silvester"
13:00:14  <andythenorth> the estimation was too high because I earnt a lot less
13:00:33  <andythenorth> so eh, I’ve already paid full tax AND I earnt less, but to me that still feels like a win
13:00:36  <andythenorth> :P
13:00:55  <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: did you figure out meanwhile what a "verschÀrfte waffenruhe" means?
13:01:06  <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: no.
13:02:21  <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: 2
13:02:24  <Eddi|zuHause> errrg
13:02:48  <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: "verschÀrft" would mean that it's an enforced measure in the first place
13:02:53  <frosch123> i already have a 2, and i do not want a 4
13:03:07  <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: i meant to hit backspace, but hit enter instead
13:03:24  <Eddi|zuHause> (one of my most common typing errors)
13:03:52  <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: also i hit 2, instead of shift+2
13:04:31  <Eddi|zuHause> so, why is KSP so crashy?
13:04:52  <Eddi|zuHause> in the 3 days i played, it crashed like 10 times
13:06:13  <Eddi|zuHause> also, how do i get a satellite in orbit? i can't navigate the thrust direction to fire the engine...
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13:17:03  <Rubidium> can't you remote control it in some manner?
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13:17:42  <Rubidium> then a bit of prograde burn at the right moment ought to do it (or am I talking non-sense now?)
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13:18:29  <andythenorth> I couldn’t even start engines in KSP
13:18:44  <andythenorth> I could only make my kerbal bail out of the module
13:19:00  * andythenorth has told that boring story before :|
13:20:51  <Mazur> Is that what you told your wife last night?
13:21:22  <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: have you found the space bar yet?
13:21:54  <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: i can control stages remotely, but i can't adjust the direction it turns (maybe i need to research some maneuver engines?)
13:22:39  <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: but leaving at the launch pad is one of the easiest ways to get early science :p
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14:55:32  <Eddi|zuHause> ah, i researched some gyro thingie, now i can steer the satellite
14:57:02  <eM> KSP \o/
15:07:55  <frosch123> hmm, 300 pieces of rail track was not enough
15:10:27  <Rubidium> either you took too short pieces of rail, or you're making a really long bit of rail
15:15:17  <Eddi|zuHause> that just gets you like 5 times around the carpet
15:16:26  <Rubidium> well, I can get a single piece of 360 m of rail dropped about 20 meters in front of my door
15:17:29  <V453000> making rail tracks makes zero fuckin sense.
15:17:39  <V453000> I havent done anything in openttd which would be more messy
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15:20:33  <V453000> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20419525/BRIX/tracks_wtf.png
15:20:37  <V453000> I totally do not get this
15:20:49  <V453000> when Irender things, straight tiles end at blue points
15:21:16  <V453000> but this track model (the grey lines)
15:21:21  <V453000> do meet in the game correctly
15:21:27  <V453000> the green = 1 tile
15:21:54  <V453000> I would expect the gray models to meet in the blue points if it was correct
15:23:07  <V453000> but through trial and error, red points seem to be right
15:23:22  <Rubidium> smells like something is cut off somewhere in the process of creating the sprites
15:23:23  <Eddi|zuHause> so... next step is actually figuring out how much fuel i need to stabilize the orbit
15:23:25  <V453000> am I missing something or is this just pure wtf without explanation? XD
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15:23:56  <V453000> hm
15:24:11  <frosch123> V453000: count the sleepers?
15:24:14  <V453000> guess the diagonals are done wrongly, but I dont see how is that possible
15:24:15  <Rubidium> the grey line pattern with red dots would give the area I would expect to the "returned"
15:24:25  <V453000> yes
15:24:32  <frosch123> there are 5 in game
15:24:42  <frosch123> your model has 6
15:24:50  <frosch123> or 7, depending how you count
15:25:02  <V453000> hm
15:25:15  <V453000> maybe the camera is too close
15:25:24  <V453000> but .. :d
15:25:57  <V453000> the last sleeper is invisible only because it is below ground
15:26:04  <V453000> so it is cut off, that is expeted
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15:26:32  <V453000> the track tops are at Z=0, to make them align correctly
15:28:57  <V453000> I will try to make the correct model and then get it to work somehow, and lets see where the issue lies
15:29:01  <V453000> but this is really weird
15:43:00  <Eddi|zuHause> yay, i gots myself an orbit!
15:43:12  <Eddi|zuHause> (that was kinda close, though)
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15:57:11  <V453000> ok I dont know the source of the issue but I had some form of scaling applied which made it work
15:57:16  <V453000> I cant see how but yeah
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16:19:01  <V453000> seems to work :d
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16:37:19  <alluke> ahh all music sounds perfect in the car now
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17:58:59  <Eddi|zuHause> so... building an airplane was a total failure... am i missing something?
18:00:01  <Rubidium> probably
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18:15:06  <alluke> if wagon broadside is 22px how long are the other directions?
18:15:23  <Eddi|zuHause> they are all wrong...
18:15:31  <Eddi|zuHause> some more than others
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18:28:13  <Wolf01> bye
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18:45:14  <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r27476 trunk/src/lang/german.txt (2015-12-23 19:45:08 +0100 )
18:45:15  <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
18:45:16  <DorpsGek> german - 2 changes by mini1025
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18:55:10  <Eddi|zuHause> yay. plane is in the air...
18:55:19  <Eddi|zuHause> not sure what i do with it. or how i land...
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18:57:05  <frosch123> don't remove the last airport, or it may run out of fuel
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19:04:21  <Eddi|zuHause> hm... not this way...
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20:00:16  <alluke> stupid fuckbook
20:01:24  <Eddi|zuHause> i think i should just land planes by parachute :p
20:04:45  <andythenorth> fb is over
20:04:53  <andythenorth> people I know are quitting quite frequently
20:07:06  <Rubidium> andythenorth: I don't have an intention to quit fb any time soon
20:07:18  <Eddi|zuHause> me neither
20:07:39  * andythenorth makes an assumption about your current membership status on fb
20:07:52  <Rubidium> even then, if people are quitting quite frequently, does that mean they rejoin fb quite frequently as well?
20:07:57  <andythenorth> I wonder
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20:14:20  <andythenorth> quiet forum is quiet
20:17:23  <Eddi|zuHause> ... too quiet
20:17:31  <Eddi|zuHause> probably means something is brewing
20:19:50  <Rubidium> eggnog?
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20:20:09  <Rubidium> or gluhwein
20:23:16  * andythenorth draws a pyrite roaster
20:29:06  <alluke> fb removed my video even when i changed the soundtrack to two-penny cover version instead of the original
20:29:58  <Eddi|zuHause> a cover version does not circumvent the copyright of the original author
20:30:11  <alluke> either the cover was too close to original or fb just sucks really deep
20:31:01  <Eddi|zuHause> there is no practical way to get a cover "far away" from the original
20:31:23  <alluke> well if i had played it in piano and sung by myself it prolly would have stayed
20:31:46  <alluke> and that way the composer and lyricist wouldnt have got any royalties either
20:32:02  <Eddi|zuHause> german copyright even specifies "as long as you can recognize the melody, the original copyright applies"
20:32:05  <Rubidium> hell, if it contained "happy birthday" a year ago sung by you it could even be removed
20:32:32  <alluke> im happy the german copyright laws are just german
20:32:36  <alluke> theyre total overkill
20:32:37  <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: only if you'd sung the text. the melody was already "free"
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20:35:43  <Eddi|zuHause> oh... i still have a half-eaten bar of chocolate... how did that happen? :p
20:35:45  <Rubidium> anyhow... copyright enforcement is occasionally quite stupid/pointless
20:36:11  <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: your cat dragged it away?
20:36:49  <Eddi|zuHause> cats don't usuually touch chocolate
20:39:05  <alluke> youtube doesnt secretly accept videos with still image anymore
20:39:27  <alluke> they get stuck at processing 95% no matter what codecs or container
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21:20:34  <alluke> how long should \ I / be if ___ is 22px?
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