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Log for #openttd on 15th January 2016:
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00:02:23  <Wolf01> 'night
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00:13:33  <Eddi|zuHause> argoneus: yeah, i didn't feel like paying 300€ for a card...
00:14:03  <Eddi|zuHause> so i took this one which was something like 100€
00:14:24  <argoneus> Eddi|zuHause: well you can't expect a 4 year old 0 card to be good
00:14:38  <argoneus> tbh
00:14:41  <argoneus> KSP isn't very well optimized
00:14:48  <argoneus> and I'd assume it's more your CPU than GPU when it lags
00:15:22  <Eddi|zuHause> well, it was a major step up from my previous one, which was an onboard 4xxx
00:15:46  <Eddi|zuHause> my cpu is quite alright, though
00:15:53  <argoneus> what's your cpu?
00:16:04  <Eddi|zuHause> well, it's also 5 years old now
00:16:33  <Eddi|zuHause> was a phenom II x6 dunnoexactly
00:17:33  <argoneus> ugh, amd
00:17:52  <Eddi|zuHause> Phenom II X6 1055T 6x2.8GHz
00:18:25  <Eddi|zuHause> it was certainly more expensive than the gpu :p
00:18:27  <argoneus> the phenom single core performance isn't amazing
00:18:27  <argoneus> :(
00:18:36  <argoneus> I had a 960T myself
00:18:46  <argoneus> now I have a haswell i5 and it's night and day
00:18:49  <argoneus> granted it was a bit more expensive
00:19:17  <argoneus> AMD sucks at cpu heavy games (read: shitty optimization and bad threading)
00:19:19  <argoneus> it also sucks at emulation
00:22:07  <argoneus> Eddi|zuHause: it's fairly worth it to invest in GPUs though
00:22:21  <argoneus> if you buy the current middle-highend for 0, you can sell it a year later for like 0
00:22:24  <argoneus> and buy another 0
00:22:45  <Eddi|zuHause> that sounds like way too much hassle
00:23:15  <argoneus> (it is)
00:23:18  <argoneus> I'm happy with my GTX 770 atm
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01:08:06  <supermop> my cpu is now 6 years old
01:20:51  <Eddi|zuHause> you need to send it to school then
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01:32:25  <supermop> drinking kolsch out of a tiny glass as intended here
01:32:49  <supermop> was the only good option for filling up my growler this week
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01:35:30  <Eddi|zuHause> poor thing.
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07:51:27  <dihedral> good morning
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09:00:34  <Wolf01> o/
09:15:16  * dihedral howls
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09:19:28  <dihedral> what nick did Dominik Scherer have here?
09:26:00  <dihedral> nevermind
09:31:07  <planetmaker> "... I mean mainly enabling the 8bpp blitter which many players want to do, and now do through the config which is a bit eww ..." <-- yes... but there's really no reason. The 8bpp blitter nowadays most often doesn't offer much benefit... only thing I'm not sure about atm is palette animation
09:31:26  <planetmaker> ^@ V453000
09:32:01  <planetmaker> as such it's a purely technical setting which users don't have to care about one way or another, as you can use the 8bpp graphics just fine with the default 32bpp blitter
09:32:25  <V453000> well if 32bpp has performance issues, 8bpp helps ... also, when people join a server which uses 32bpp graphics and want to turn them to 8bpp mode, they could
09:34:43  <V453000> especially since 32bpp newgrfs have to supply their 8bpp sprites as well, it is very visual switch, not just technical
09:35:03  <V453000> the fact that 32bpp newgrfs do not give much shit about 8bpp sprites is another story, yeah
09:35:04  <planetmaker> that is the more weired thing really ;)
09:35:14  <planetmaker> the 32bpp newgrfs have to have 8bpp
09:35:51  <V453000> yes, well ... it is kind of understandable, I do not believe 8bpp will ever stop being "the main thing"
09:38:23  <peter1138> we should drop 32bpp
09:38:25  <peter1138> it's crap
09:38:38  <peter1138> also drop extra zoom, that's crap too
09:41:15  <peter1138> shame that opengl is inefficient for this type of game
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15:13:18  <Flygon> I prefer 8bpp..
15:13:22  <Flygon> More performance.
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15:21:11  <supermop> use 2bpp then?
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15:30:19  <Rubidium> 0bpp is fastest
15:30:45  <Rubidium> it also reduces the size of OpenTTD significantly because we can remove everything user-interface
15:35:12  <Eddi|zuHause> -b null?
15:35:15  <V453000> XD
15:35:39  <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: not rigorous enough
15:36:05  <Eddi|zuHause> ./configure --enable-dedicated?
15:36:14  <peter1138> just remove the code
15:36:19  <peter1138> else you might have bugs
15:36:30  <Eddi|zuHause> bugs in dead code are the worst.
15:37:40  <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: nope, still leaves loading strings and such
15:37:42  <peter1138> they often... roam...
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15:54:29  <Wolf01> now I'm happy, I just purchased 450€ of LEGO
15:57:01  <Eddi|zuHause> studies show that happiness from objects doesn't last very long
15:57:27  <Eddi|zuHause> (one of the reasons why "more money" doesn't automatically mean "happier")
15:59:05  <Wolf01> but this is LEGO
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16:25:01  <dihedral> until you tred on it
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16:49:45  <Alberth> hoi
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16:59:57  <frosch123> hola
17:01:39  <Wolf01> o/
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17:09:31  <frosch123> everyday i read "Australian AuzTrains and NSFWTrains" ...
17:09:35  <frosch123> i had too much internet
17:11:39  * frosch123 wonders whether BRIX ships will just be boxes with "don't use ships"
17:11:43  <Alberth> or not enough topics :p
17:12:58  <Alberth> trains on water :p
17:13:16  <Alberth> hmm, needs articulated ships then :p
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17:17:25  <Eddi|zuHause> isn't that already wetrails?
17:18:01  <Eddi|zuHause> well, in TTO you could run trains on water, but only on diagonal shore sections
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19:29:34  <Aphanasiy> Anybody here?
19:29:43  <Wolf01> no?
19:30:03  <Aphanasiy> hello
19:30:09  <Wolf01> hello
19:30:59  <Aphanasiy> could you, please help me to find some russian mods, except xUSSR
19:31:56  <Wolf01> I don't know any
19:32:25  <frosch123> Aphanasiy: forums.ttdrussia.net <- try there
19:32:38  <frosch123> oh, it does note exist anymore?
19:33:05  <Aphanasiy> it's died, so I'm here
19:33:19  <frosch123> then, i doubt there are any except xussr
19:34:04  <Aphanasiy> any ways to connect with ttdtussia admin?
19:34:13  <frosch123> i don't know them
19:34:38  <Aphanasiy> maybe try to find out from Only For Friends?
19:36:18  <frosch123> Aphanasiy: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1067984#p1067984 <- most are on ttdrussia
19:36:34  <frosch123> if that site is gone, i don't know where they could have went
19:36:40  <frosch123> they did not show up on tt-forums
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20:07:39  <supermop> hmm you cant build a bridge under a bridge
20:07:54  <frosch123> you can build a bridgehead under a bridge
20:08:49  <supermop> was wondering if i could have a rail deck under a road deck
20:08:54  <supermop> alas i cannot
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20:11:29  <supermop> oops
20:11:45  <supermop> wish you could start a game directly from SE
20:13:55  <Wolf01> iirc you could build some types of bridges over some others, but with some limitations (2 levels between the bridges) or that was discarded because of glitches?
20:16:06  <supermop> doesnt seem to work even with 3 levels btw
20:16:29  <Wolf01> have you tried with a suspended bridge?
20:17:25  <supermop> yeah
20:19:33  <supermop> brb need to buy either a 150cm board or aluminum L-angle as the joists in my ceiling go the wrong way relative to direction i want to suspend my bike
20:22:38  <Wolf01> mmmh I bet that feature was in MiniIN
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20:57:08  <supermop> patchpack?
20:57:15  <Wolf01> yeah
20:57:39  <Wolf01> I was really addicted to patches at that time
20:58:38  <Wolf01> now I play every game vanilla, with some exceptions (skyrim, minecraft...)
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21:07:16  <supermop> i play vanilla or similar up until a naging feeling tells me it would be much nicer if i just had one different building or train etc in there,
21:07:46  <supermop> then i spend a couple hundred hours down a rabbit hole drawing or modelling stuff on that idea
21:08:20  <supermop> the i realized it's a huge pain, and give up for a few months
21:08:53  <supermop> few months later i'm bored and think, ok i'll just play a quick, small vanilla game
21:08:59  <supermop> and cycle repeats
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22:14:06  <supermop> forgot how to cheat
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22:58:14  <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 2*290*sqrt(2)
22:58:14  <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 820.243866176
23:00:20  <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 2*890*sqrt(2)
23:00:20  <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 2517.30014102
23:00:27  <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 890*sqrt(2)
23:00:27  <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 1258.65007051
23:00:37  <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 870*sqrt(2)
23:00:37  <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 1230.36579926
23:01:34  <argoneus> bleh, visual studio can't into makefiles
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23:29:42  <Wolf01> 'night
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