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Log for #openttd on 25th January 2016:
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00:01:43  <Wolf01> 'night
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05:37:45  <Supercheese> I hope people aren't taking this whole "new logo" business seriously
05:38:56  <Supercheese> it's getting out of hand
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06:28:18  <tt_johannes> hello
06:29:09  <tt_johannes> I just added some train stations twice (directly after another) in one order, and the train seems to make a turnaround at the station
06:29:47  <tt_johannes> It looks like the train drives to the right end of the station, stops there for passengers, then turns, drives to the left end, stops for passengers, then goes on
06:29:50  <tt_johannes> strange...
06:37:17  <Supercheese> well, why would you duplicate the order?
06:57:59  <tt_johannes> Supercheese: when I started with openttd, I made order like A->B->C->B->A
06:58:18  <Supercheese> you should just be able to do A>B>C>B
06:58:26  <tt_johannes> yep
06:58:36  <tt_johannes> but I did not know how it was programmed :P
06:59:00  <tt_johannes> so probably all my trains did a useless turnaround...
06:59:16  <Supercheese> quite possibly
06:59:32  <tt_johannes> or no not useless, but they stopped once again after their turnaround
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09:24:36  * andythenorth just had an evil idea for industries
09:24:37  <andythenorth> biab
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09:25:46  <DDR> Man, what a cliffhanger.
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10:18:01  <Wolf01> o/
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11:25:25  <peter1138> so i just started firefox and it's already 19GB virtual...
11:26:09  <Wolf01> o_O
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11:41:42  <peter1138> well, at least i have 16GB ram now...
11:42:25  <V453000> hm
11:42:26  <V453000> am confused
11:42:34  <V453000> can 4/8 vehicle be dual-headed?
11:43:38  <peter1138> can't anything?
11:43:55  <V453000> I just knew that articulated can't be dual-headed, which confused me
11:43:57  <V453000> so yeah :D
11:43:59  <V453000> thanks
11:44:17  <peter1138> length should be irrelevant
11:44:24  <V453000> yes exactly
11:45:00  * V453000 will make a 4/8 train set
11:47:07  <peter1138> heh
11:47:23  <V453000> cute wagons rule
11:49:56  <argoneus> 5/7 train set
11:58:49  <peter1138> apocalypse in 9/8 set
12:00:29  <V453000> ._.
12:00:44  <Eddi|zuHause> 12/8 is a great wagon length
12:10:22  <V453000> @logs
12:10:22  <DorpsGek> V453000: http://irclogs.qmsk.net/channels/openttd
12:15:04  <V453000> writing down cargoes for wagons
12:15:15  <V453000> phosphate, pyrite, cassava, nuts, manganese, petroleum fuels, edible oil
12:15:17  <V453000> coffee
12:15:20  <V453000> fuck all of those
12:15:28  <V453000> and add sugar beet, sugar cane and general sugar XD
12:15:31  <V453000> srsly
12:15:34  <V453000> beans?
12:15:48  <V453000> I really wonder how do I draw those XD
12:17:22  <peter1138> -rw-r--r--  1 petern petern  15203 Jun 13  2007 opengl.diff
12:17:28  <peter1138> wonder if that will still apply...
12:19:11  <Eddi|zuHause> was that before or after the c++ move? :p
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12:45:10  <peter1138> 2007 is before i think
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15:42:19  <Wolf01> bah, this "hero" is frustrating, I could sacrifice everything for a bit of fire protection but I think I'll restart the season with a mage instead :|
15:52:41  <argoneus> hero?
15:52:44  <argoneus> are you playing diablo or what
15:52:49  <Wolf01> diablo
15:52:55  <argoneus> which hero
15:53:00  <Wolf01> the monk
15:53:26  <argoneus> monk was great last season
15:53:43  <Wolf01> I changed all the abilities, the equip and the allies, still I die with purple named enemies :|
15:53:59  <argoneus> do you have a 6set
15:55:02  <Wolf01> no, I have just yellow pieces because even the legendary items are crap and for >5 levels below mine
15:55:29  <argoneus> the game begins when you hit 70
15:55:40  <argoneus> until then the class doesn't matter
15:55:53  <argoneus> you can get to 70 easily in like 2 hours
15:55:58  <argoneus> and if someone boosts you then 10 min
15:57:07  <V453000> I seriously hate all the "get to lvl70 in 2 hours" ... you just need this huge ass gem, this legendary crown, this legendary bracer, ...
15:57:23  <Wolf01> uhm, I'm playing in master difficulty, and I took 5 days to get to 68
15:57:49  <V453000> you get to lvl70 fatest on Hard I think, or somewhere rather easy
15:57:55  <Wolf01> and NOW, I'm dying every 2 meters
15:58:07  <Wolf01> even Diablo itself was easy
15:58:19  <Wolf01> the act V is the death
15:58:38  <V453000> idk when I wanted to level up, I just played the bounties and rifts
15:58:40  <V453000> not the story
15:58:56  <V453000> you can continue the story at lvl 70 if you feel like it :>
15:59:56  <Wolf01> I needed the story for the achievements, every time I miss this and that, so every time I make a new hero I play the story and try to get the missing bits
16:00:18  <V453000> xd
16:02:29  <argoneus> hard is the best for levelling
16:02:38  <argoneus> and when you kill leoric and get his crown
16:02:40  <argoneus> put an xp gem in it
16:02:42  <argoneus> profit
16:02:46  <argoneus> not sure if that still works
16:03:03  <V453000> I think it does
16:03:05  <argoneus> basically last season we were 4 friends playing
16:03:12  <argoneus> and we all got the crown and put an xp gem in it
16:03:27  <argoneus> we got to like paragon 100 on first day
16:03:47  <argoneus> which is still much slower than what you can do
16:03:54  <Wolf01> I have 3 friends to play with, but they don't play :|
16:03:54  <argoneus> i remember there being paragon 700 on like the 3rd day
16:04:38  <Wolf01> also they like more exploring the whole map instead of doing quests
16:05:00  <argoneus> V453000: I thought you were a fan of minmaxing games
16:08:24  <V453000> ?
16:09:23  <argoneus> V453000: getting the best results/stats possible
16:09:49  <V453000> I don't class games like you probably
16:09:59  <argoneus> oh wait
16:10:03  <argoneus> you don't hate getting to 70 in 2 hours
16:10:07  <argoneus> you hate that it's RNG
16:10:09  <argoneus> I misread
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16:11:25  <V453000> no I hate that the "guides" how to get to lvl70 usually imply that you first farmed a certain amount of things at lvl70 before you even begin
16:11:41  <argoneus> really?
16:11:45  <argoneus> guides I've read assumed a fresh season
16:11:50  <argoneus> after a while you can just ask people to boost you
16:11:57  <V453000> like boon of the hoarder and the xp giving bracer for gold picked up, leoric crown with maxlvl ruby, ...
16:11:58  <V453000> yeah
16:12:04  <V453000> new season is something else ;)
16:12:06  <V453000> :)
16:12:27  <argoneus> if i come to a season late I just ask a random guy on my friendslist to boost me
16:12:33  <argoneus> in return I boost people when they ask me
16:12:35  <argoneus> seems to work well :P
16:13:11  <V453000> regardless, I love Diablo 3, the reaper of souls had some seriously awesome patches, made the game super good. The only thing I really hated about the reaper of souls is barely any campaign story, no cinematics (not even ending cinematic), which felt like a ripoff ... but the gameplay patches are great
16:13:38  <V453000> idk how it is going now with the 2.4 or whatever version there is atm
16:13:52  <argoneus> >diablo
16:13:53  <argoneus> >story
16:13:54  <V453000> but the loot 2.0, greater rifts, ... etc, great shit
16:13:57  <argoneus> :P
16:14:17  <V453000> it is fucking blizzard, the story in diablo 3 was great
16:14:33  <V453000> I know, people who play it for 19347 hours play it cause grind more shit m8
16:14:57  <argoneus> I usually go straight to bounties after leoric
16:15:01  <V453000> I think I got as far as a T6 capable mage, but then got bored
16:15:18  <argoneus> last season I had a T8 capable barb
16:15:21  <argoneus> turns out
16:15:28  <argoneus> holding the whirlwind button for the entire dungeon is not very fun
16:15:36  <argoneus> while mashing 12341234 for all the shouts
16:15:40  <V453000> XD
16:15:50  <argoneus> i can still hear it in my head
16:15:51  <V453000> yeah
16:15:55  <argoneus> just a spinning guy with tornadoes flying around
16:15:56  <argoneus> and going
16:15:57  <argoneus> HAAA
16:15:58  <argoneus> HOO
16:15:58  <argoneus> HEE
16:16:01  <argoneus> HUAA
16:16:05  <argoneus> very fun
16:16:18  <V453000> indeed
16:16:26  <V453000> same happens for every class, it is just a huge ass grind
16:16:34  <V453000> well executed grind, but still grind
16:16:36  <argoneus> also I don't like that the game kinda forces you to play the game a certain way
16:16:42  <argoneus> your character is shit, can't clear anything
16:16:45  <argoneus> you equip 6set
16:16:48  <V453000> certain way - kill shit? :D
16:16:51  <argoneus> suddenly you can clear T6 easily
16:16:55  <argoneus> but as it turns out
16:16:59  <argoneus> your set isn't very good the current season
16:17:01  <argoneus> so you peak at T8
16:17:04  <argoneus> even with legendaries
16:17:09  <argoneus> and you need to reroll
16:17:10  <V453000> well yeah, kind of, but the fucking cube opens up some options
16:17:36  <argoneus> I don't remember fucking the cube
16:17:38  <argoneus> but it was pretty useful
16:17:45  <argoneus> the cube was fucking me most of the time
16:17:52  <V453000> nice
16:17:53  <argoneus> no wait, that was kadala
16:17:55  <argoneus> she had a huge dildo
16:17:56  <V453000> XD
16:18:05  <argoneus> I gave her money and she gave me blue trash
16:18:29  <argoneus> I remember farming a set for my barbarian
16:18:34  <argoneus> and through all the kadala gambling
16:18:40  <argoneus> I got 8 items from the other set I didn't want
16:18:43  <argoneus> and like 1 from the one I wanted
16:18:44  <argoneus> it was great
16:20:03  <V453000> ye
16:21:40  <V453000> anybody remembers what pikka basic industries use fuel oil as label?
16:21:41  <V453000> RFPR?
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16:27:29  <V453000> I fucking hate ECS and how you have to put 10234239 NewGRFs together for it to be "complete"
16:27:32  <V453000> viva la FIRS
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18:45:45  <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r27504 trunk/src/lang/catalan.txt (2016-01-25 19:45:36 +0100 )
18:45:46  <DorpsGek> -Update from Eints:
18:45:47  <DorpsGek> catalan: 3 changes by juanjo
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19:03:10  <andythenorth> o/
19:03:15  <V453000> NO
19:03:38  <V453000> [13:15] <V453000> writing down cargoes for wagons [13:15] <V453000> phosphate, pyrite, cassava, nuts, manganese, petroleum fuels, edible oil [13:15] <V453000> coffee [13:15] <V453000> fuck all of those [13:15] <V453000> and add sugar beet, sugar cane and general sugar XD [13:15] <V453000> srsly [13:15] <V453000> beans? [13:15] <V453000> I really wonder how do I draw those XD
19:03:47  <V453000> btw cargo Glass not used anywhere?
19:04:42  <andythenorth> NO
19:05:06  <andythenorth> V453000: nuts you can draw
19:05:21  <andythenorth> do like a yeti, but giant squirrels, holding one nut each
19:05:38  <V453000> yes, something like that
19:05:43  <andythenorth> edible oil = yellow liquid
19:05:46  <V453000> what is sugar cane and sugar beet?
19:05:50  <V453000> stuff that produces sugar?
19:05:55  <V453000> difference is?
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19:06:51  <andythenorth> sugar cane https://www.freightlinertrucks.com/Areas/Timeline/Content/images/1960_cane.jpg
19:07:49  <V453000> yes
19:08:13  <andythenorth> sugar beet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWWoW_c3ZPk
19:08:16  <V453000> but difference of them on a hopper?
19:08:40  <V453000> guess beet has no green bits
19:08:45  <V453000> while cane has shitload of green
19:09:00  <andythenorth> beets is just brown stuff
19:09:09  <andythenorth> cane is massive piles of things, like troll hair
19:09:27  <V453000> yez
19:09:27  <andythenorth> phosphate is white stuff, pyrite is brown stuff
19:09:34  <andythenorth> cassava is big sugar beet
19:09:37  <V453000> XD
19:09:39  <andythenorth> manganese is dark grey stuff
19:09:42  <V453000> yes excellent
19:09:43  <andythenorth> coffee is in sacks
19:09:49  <andythenorth> beans, wtf
19:10:12  <andythenorth> “welcome to my world”
19:10:26  <andythenorth> automated recolouring of bulk cargo, and a tarpaulin over anything I don’t want to draw
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19:10:37  <V453000> why make such ridiculous cargoes then :P
19:10:41  <andythenorth> I do have to do the CHIPS cargos :(
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19:10:59  <andythenorth> I am happy enough that the words are different tbh
19:11:01  <V453000> remoov em
19:11:06  <V453000> \o/ everybody happy
19:11:10  <V453000> players won't even notice :P
19:11:12  <V453000> nah let's draw it
19:11:18  <andythenorth> might as well?
19:11:24  <andythenorth> keeps things moving?
19:11:36  <V453000> yarr
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19:12:11  <andythenorth> petrol is white liquid? clear? Purple-ish?
19:12:25  <V453000> I have petrol yellowy
19:12:37  <V453000> petroleum fuels brownish?
19:12:37  <andythenorth> fair
19:12:50  <andythenorth> petroleum fuels are just petrol, with added wavey hands
19:12:54  <V453000> edible oil yellowy as well, but less "toxic yellow"
19:12:57  <andythenorth> cos it might be diesel or whatever
19:13:04  <V453000> fair point
19:13:06  <andythenorth> diesel was clear, last time I spilt it
19:13:12  <V453000> might as well make petrol == petroleum fuels
19:13:41  <andythenorth> same cargo label, I just fucked with the name, because in EN UK it makes more sense
19:13:52  <andythenorth> nobody files bug reports that cement kilns don’t run on petrol
19:14:00  <andythenorth> or that dump trucks don’t run on petrol
19:14:02  <V453000> oh, cargo label is what matters to me
19:14:07  <andythenorth> label is PETR
19:14:11  <V453000> yeah
19:14:14  <V453000> RFPR is chemicals
19:14:16  <andythenorth> yes
19:14:29  <andythenorth> which is daft, but historical reasons
19:14:37  <andythenorth> whisky can also be refined :P
19:14:42  <andythenorth> and molasses
19:15:16  <V453000> ..
19:15:49  <andythenorth> I didn’t add Precious Metals, Gemstones or Explosives :P
19:15:57  <andythenorth> considered them :P
19:16:06  <V453000> YET
19:16:17  <andythenorth> also contraband, fast food, used banknotes
19:16:40  <andythenorth> or stolen intellectual property, or state secrets
19:16:46  <andythenorth> or fake state secrets
19:17:40  <V453000> putting together a list of cargoes my new train set will support
19:17:43  <V453000> list is fucklong
19:17:57  <V453000> also putting together all combinations of cargoes visible at a time to identify what I actually need
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19:19:41  <andythenorth> probably some cargos should be incompatible
19:19:49  <andythenorth> like the dog-chicken-grain problem
19:19:51  <V453000> what do you mean
19:19:51  <Terkhen> Hello
19:19:57  <V453000> hy Terkhen
19:20:13  <andythenorth> http://www.mathsisfun.com/chicken_crossing_solution.html
19:20:20  <andythenorth> hola Terkhen
19:20:33  <andythenorth> like Yeti on a food train
19:20:39  <andythenorth> cargo should disappear en route
19:20:49  <V453000> XD
19:20:51  <V453000> ok
19:21:14  <V453000> not graphical problem so I will leave that out for now if you don't mind
19:21:46  <andythenorth> maybe in v2
19:21:54  <andythenorth> you need sprites for ‘Eating Yeti'
19:22:09  <V453000> :d
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19:40:27  <Wolf01> meh, this season look difficult, one quest required T4 to be completed :|
19:40:44  <Wolf01> s/required/requires
19:56:03  <V453000> I think I got all wagon/cargo colours figured out andythenorth  :)
19:57:16  <andythenorth> yay
20:05:31  <andythenorth> hmm
20:05:41  <andythenorth> the roof slope and the arch are also wrong in that sprite
20:05:49  <andythenorth> but I don’t want to post a wall of text :P
20:06:58  <V453000> wat sprite
20:07:28  <supermop> yo yo yo
20:07:38  <supermop> neon cheaper than i thought
20:07:53  <andythenorth> V453000: that ECS vehicle factory
20:07:55  <andythenorth> or such
20:12:19  <V453000> ?
20:13:06  <Alberth> pimp sprite thingie
20:13:13  <V453000> ah
20:14:08  <V453000> mdfgou
20:14:14  <V453000> my elaborate opinion
20:19:11  <V453000> andythenorth: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nuts/wiki/GearCargoSystem
20:19:58  <andythenorth> oh wt
20:19:59  <andythenorth> wtd
20:20:01  <andythenorth> wtf
20:20:27  <andythenorth> what haz u don
20:20:35  * andythenorth has typing problems :(
20:21:26  <andythenorth> V453000: every time I change FIRS I ruin your nice graphic :(
20:21:55  <frosch123> andythenorth: V learns scripting
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20:22:07  <andythenorth> true
20:22:12  <frosch123> so he can just setup a set of 16M cargo sprites with different colorus
20:22:16  <frosch123> and let you pick from it
20:22:29  <andythenorth> 16M is not enough
20:22:51  <V453000> outside = colour of wagon, inside = colour of cargo
20:23:02  <frosch123> well, actuall,y how many pixels of a normal zoom wagon are associated to the cargo?
20:23:13  <V453000> andythenorth: yes, whenever you change your shit you can break some visual compatibilities
20:23:25  <andythenorth> yay
20:23:32  <V453000> frosch123: idk this is just a thing to figure out colours
20:23:34  <andythenorth> can’t you just script your set from FIRS?
20:23:42  <andythenorth> I can generate json if you want :P
20:23:50  <V453000> no because the colours aren't just FIRS
20:23:57  <V453000> wagon colours are most important to me
20:23:58  <andythenorth> there are other sets?
20:24:11  <V453000> original ,ogffx+, ecs, pikka's shit, yeti
20:24:11  <andythenorth> I played PBI once
20:24:16  <andythenorth> more than once
20:24:17  <andythenorth> many times
20:24:37  <V453000> the wagon colours are important because I don't want 2 same wagon colours in any configuration of any industry set
20:24:51  <V453000> per type ... there can be two grey if one is flatbed and one is hopper
20:24:59  <V453000> plus wood gets stakes, etc
20:25:17  <V453000> in other words, if you do terrible shit, I still have some room to fix things
20:25:33  <V453000> but if you do very terrible shit, your industries will just play worse with my train sets
20:25:57  <V453000> anyway, got to go
20:25:59  <V453000> cya later
20:27:18  <andythenorth> bye
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21:34:20  <Terkhen> Good night
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