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00:03:17 *** Quatroking [~Quatrokin@ip226-139-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:04:20 *** JezK_ [~jez@2407:7800:400:107f:3db5:daca:8457:e66a] has joined #openttd 00:07:28 *** Samu_ [~oftc-webi@po-217-129-255-23.netvisao.pt] has joined #openttd 00:07:47 <Samu_> ST2: ok, i'm back 00:08:05 <Samu_> you're still "in", the ghost of you, that is 00:08:20 <ST2> got a Network-connection lost 00:08:34 <ST2> and dumped of the game, obviously ^^ 00:09:52 *** Samu [~oftc-webi@po-217-129-255-23.netvisao.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:11:08 <Samu_> Client ST2 is still in the game, I'm waiting for the timeout ... 00:11:13 <Samu_> weird, it takes a while 00:11:41 <ST2> usually are the normal 20 seconds ^^ 00:11:48 <ST2> at least on our servers ^^ 00:12:52 <Samu_> how long is 32000 ticks? 00:12:55 <Samu_> keks 00:15:38 <Samu_> ST2 is not dropping :| 00:15:39 <ST2> 74 ticks is ~1 sec 00:15:53 <ST2> (I think xD) 00:17:01 <ST2> well, I guess public servers are not prepared for hibernating - and, imo, there's no reason to 00:17:25 <Samu_> it's been what... 10 minutes, ST2 client is still in, this is weird 00:17:35 <Samu_> ok, try joining, to see what happens 00:17:40 <ST2> can I try to join again? 00:17:54 <ST2> to see if appears 2 me's xD 00:18:21 <ST2> client list only shows 1 me 00:18:23 <ST2> ^^ 00:18:36 <Samu_> eh, ST2 has left the game, then ST2 has joined the game 00:18:45 <Samu_> like... almost 1 sec after 00:19:21 <ST2> gotta love server name for a 64x64 map xD 00:19:47 <Samu_> :o i didn't bother changing it 00:20:02 <ST2> hehe 00:20:05 <Samu_> it was a 4096x4096 with 15 Ais a few weeks ago 00:20:10 <Samu_> really slow 00:20:21 <ST2> now imagine if I was that lazy, since we have 28 OpenTTD servers running xD 00:20:50 <Samu_> what happens if you perform actions in the game now? errors or anything? 00:21:06 <ST2> lets try ^^ 00:28:51 *** Samu_ [~oftc-webi@po-217-129-255-23.netvisao.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:06:18 <JetFox> Hows everyone doin? 01:09:46 *** rahtgaz [~rahtgaz@00021442.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: I'll be Bach] 01:15:15 * Islacrusez cries into his tea 01:15:26 <Islacrusez> trying to wrap my head around astrophysics 01:16:34 <Islacrusez> but it's 2 in the morning and I can't even convert mass to volume at this point, let alone calculate things like gravitational binding energy, so it's going... badly 01:31:44 <JetFox> o.0 01:35:19 <Islacrusez> never try to calculate what'll happen if you hit the moon with a big rock and try to shatter it; if your numbers are in the regions where you're likely to be successful, you're gonna have a bad time 01:35:29 <Islacrusez> I bid ye all good night 01:35:35 *** Islacrusez [~m4rek@host-92-20-160-214.as13285.net] has quit [Quit: I must use the sleep] 01:38:13 *** Smedles [~quassel@58.160.136.199] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:43:16 *** Smedles [~quassel@58.160.136.199] has joined #openttd 01:59:29 *** Smedles 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timeout: 480 seconds] 10:22:14 <Samu> ST2: hi, sorry about yesterday 10:22:25 <ST2> np :) 10:23:16 <Samu> don't know what was the last message you received from me, my parents just warned me they were turning off modem :( 10:25:15 *** Arveen [~Arveen@ip-95-223-75-47.hsi16.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 10:34:02 <peter1138> Turning... off... modem... 10:34:30 <Samu> yes 10:34:51 <Samu> and phone and tv and computer 10:37:12 <Samu> ST2: can you try joining the game? it's been 10 hours 10:37:17 <Samu> what will happen 10:37:27 <Alkel_U3> To conserve power? To reduce fire hazzard when everyone's sleeping? To not fry everyone's heads with the massive ammount of radiation being emited by such devices? 10:37:57 <ST2> @ work - let me grab the RC1 ^^ 10:38:02 <Samu> oh 10:39:52 <Samu> connection lost 10:43:26 <Alkel_U3> I noticed cheap VPS services being mentioned at night - forpsi has a good one for very slightly over a dollar 10:44:22 <Samu> strange, hibernation worked now 10:45:40 <Samu> when i awoke the system from hibernation, ST2 client actually dropped 10:46:04 <Samu> but on yesterday's test, it did not, until you had rejoined 10:47:01 <peter1138> Alkel_U3, although IIRC, Samu's running 8 core AMD CPU... that's gonna suck power (cos they're shit) 10:47:33 <Samu> it's water cooled and not overclocked, so maybe not that much 10:47:54 <peter1138> Which model is it? 10:48:00 <Samu> fx-8150 10:48:25 <Samu> watercooled by asetek, with a pretty FX logo 10:48:30 <peter1138> 125W ;( 10:50:12 <peter1138> Not quite as bad as the 9590's 220W tdp though. 10:50:27 <Alkel_U3> oh, yeh. That might be sufficient as room heating in a well insulated house during most of winter 10:51:20 <Samu> i got a video card that is about the tripple tdp of cpu, but ppl only seem to care about cpu tdp 10:51:43 <Samu> r9 390 10:52:32 <Samu> I hope it doesn't die as early as the hd 6850 10:53:11 <Samu> costed me an arm 10:53:13 <peter1138> Jesus you have a shit power hungry GPU too :( 10:53:16 <Alkel_U3> Samu: watercooled means it will probably overheat less and therefore throttle less, thus consuming more power (or at least not consuming less). Keeping it cool doesn't increase efficiency afaik 10:55:14 <Samu> well, hd 6850 died, i really needed a replacement as I had none 10:55:44 <Eddi|zuHause> the opposite actually, warm processors use less power for the same operation than cool ones 10:55:52 <Eddi|zuHause> plus the power needed for cooling 10:56:08 <Samu> I went with the decision to have something that would last at least 5 years 10:56:23 <peter1138> Yeah but... AMD :( 10:58:26 <Samu> it was either r9 390 or... nothing else 10:58:43 *** FR^2 [~frquadrat@2001:41d0:1:f924::1] has joined #openttd 10:58:48 <Samu> there was gtx 970, but that vram seemed quite a limiting factor for the years to come 10:58:54 <Alkel_U3> I had such emergency situation, too - I opted for that overclockable Haswell Pentium instead. Not a powerhouse but still pretty power and cost efficient, I think 10:59:04 *** FR^2 is now known as Guest2839 10:59:11 <Samu> and gtx 970 was actually more expensive than r9 390 here 11:02:19 <Samu> gigabyte model has locked OC capability of R9 390, I kind of welcomed that 11:02:38 <Samu> no OC testings as I've done on the HD 6850 11:02:44 <Samu> even if I wanted 11:02:45 <Samu> it's locked 11:03:57 <Samu> also gigabyte was the only vendor with the smallest pcb out of every other vendor, it was the only one that could fit on my tower 11:05:04 <Samu> but truth be told, this card is horribly noisy when fully taxed 11:05:53 <Samu> http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5500#ov 11:06:38 <Samu> that page is so misleading, the card can't overclock 11:06:41 <Samu> lel 11:10:44 <peter1138> Stylish Metal Back Plate 11:10:47 <peter1138> Oh yes, awesome feature. 11:11:04 <Samu> could care less about looks 11:11:16 <peter1138> You could? 11:11:59 <Samu> i care more about noise, and damn this card is an horrible choice regarding noise 11:12:24 <Samu> but hey... too late, i've made my decision, I have to live with it 11:13:02 <peter1138> *a horrible 11:14:13 <Samu> it's not like I had many more choices at that time 11:20:53 <peter1138> "Android is upgrading..." 11:20:55 <peter1138> Ominous... 11:25:34 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:36:31 *** Arveen [~Arveen@ip-95-223-75-47.hsi16.unitymediagroup.de] has joined #openttd 11:50:03 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 11:52:50 <Samu> darn, I forgot the special case of stopping AIs which were started as random 11:53:00 <Samu> this shall fix it if (AIConfig::GetConfig((CompanyID)this->selected_slot)->IsRandom()) GetConfig(this->selected_slot)->Change(NULL); 11:53:37 <Samu> it "corrects" the name of the script back to "(random)" 11:53:45 <Samu> I want to avoid confusion as most as possible 12:04:34 <Samu> this whole ordeal of random ais is still going to be confusing 12:05:18 <Samu> if the Company dies by natural causes (like bankrupting), the name of the config slot is not updated back to (random) 12:09:06 *** NoShlomo [~NoShlomo@90.74.151.136] has joined #openttd 12:11:35 *** Quatroking_ [~Quatrokin@ip226-139-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:15:37 <Samu> what's the easy way to have an AI do stupid things to have its company bankrupt as early as possible? 12:15:43 <Samu> i need to test 12:15:56 <Samu> and it has to start randomly, but that's another matter 12:16:50 <Samu> ah... infrastructure costs and airports 12:16:55 <Samu> just remembered 12:18:27 <Wormnest> Yeah set wormai to airplanes only and it will go bankrupt pretty fast in that case 12:22:49 <Samu> well, syntrans is the victim 12:28:14 <Samu> arf, bad timing for a crash 12:28:25 <Samu> fast forward has a tendency to crash 12:28:47 <Samu> > openttd.exe!Blitter_32bppAnim::PaletteAnimate(const Palette & palette) Line 489 C++ 12:28:54 <Samu> I don't even touch that code 12:39:02 <Samu> i got WormAI as the non-random, and AdmiralAI as the random, let's see what happens to the config names when they bankrupt 12:39:09 <Samu> and lets hope it doesn't crash 12:44:36 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 12:46:46 <peter1138> NoShlomo, what's wrong with Shlomo? 12:47:16 <NoShlomo> sorry bro, noshlomo 12:54:14 <peter1138> But why........... 12:54:24 <Samu> aha, I got company_cmd.cpp doing the invalidatewindow thing 12:54:38 <Samu> line 914 12:56:03 <Samu> i see it may need to invalidate a few more things, license window, changelog window, view readme window 12:56:12 <Samu> will test that later 12:57:10 <NoShlomo> peter1138, no homo, nohomo, noshlomo :^) 13:16:18 <Eddi|zuHause> you mean like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3uXcK9pMqg ? 13:18:36 <Samu> t.t it's not working for some weird reason 13:26:01 *** debdog [~debdog@2a02:8070:4584:4200:7a24:afff:fe8a:d04d] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:27:00 <NoShlomo> Eddi|zuHause, aye 13:33:27 *** debdog [~debdog@2a02:8070:4584:4200:7a24:afff:fe8a:d04d] has joined #openttd 13:35:17 *** debdog [~debdog@2a02:8070:4584:4200:7a24:afff:fe8a:d04d] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:37:04 *** debdog [~debdog@2a02:8070:4584:4200:7a24:afff:fe8a:d04d] has joined #openttd 13:49:40 *** roidal [~roidal@cm215-81.liwest.at] has joined #openttd 13:56:02 <Samu> i just saw a bus overtaking another that had just overtaken it, weird bug 13:56:33 <Samu> no bankrupts 13:56:37 <Samu> oops breakdowns* 14:00:11 <Samu> ah i see why, one was decelerating, the other was accelerating 14:00:34 <Samu> there's a miscalculation somewhen 14:03:35 <Samu> seems to happen between MPS regal bus and Hereford Leopard bus 14:03:55 <Samu> they got different power or traction or whatever, right? 14:04:06 <Samu> mps is stronger at accelerating 14:05:49 <Samu> hmm, not really, maybe the weigth? 14:11:40 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:17:25 *** tvel [~tvel@217.174.159.226] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:27:17 *** R3chovecCZ [~oftc-webi@176-74-128-86.netdatacomm.cz] has joined #openttd 14:27:44 *** R3chovecCZ [~oftc-webi@176-74-128-86.netdatacomm.cz] has quit [] 14:35:30 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 14:37:39 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:48:57 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has joined #openttd 14:49:00 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 14:59:06 <Samu> uhmm... is it intended that when a company bankrupts, another one starts immediately after in its place? 14:59:15 <Samu> AI companies, that is 14:59:34 <Samu> seems like the start_date is being ignored 15:02:40 *** Arveen [~Arveen@ip-95-223-75-47.hsi16.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 15:10:19 <Samu> i need to test 1.6.1-rc1 15:10:25 <Samu> see if the same thing happens 15:12:11 *** pereba [~adiirc@2804:7f2:80:c796:c9d:dbab:3ac7:d72a] has joined #openttd 15:17:53 <Samu> well, the exact same thing happens 15:18:19 <Samu> I don't suppose this is intended behaviour, but at least it's not caused by me 15:22:55 *** keoz [~keikoz@pha75-1-81-57-54-15.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 15:25:01 *** Islacrusez [~m4rek@host-92-20-160-214.as13285.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:25:16 *** Islacrusez [~m4rek@host-92-9-18-241.as43234.net] has joined #openttd 15:25:41 *** gelignite [~gelignite@x5ce4a069.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 15:46:31 *** Islacrusez [~m4rek@host-92-9-18-241.as43234.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:53:38 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.136.141.100] has joined #openttd 15:54:46 <Samu> i think i have inadvertedly fixed something I wanted to fix a month ago 15:55:33 <Samu> awww no, I did not 15:56:48 <Samu> this ugly fix in openttd.cpp is still needed if (!AIConfig::GetConfig(c, AIConfig::SSS_FORCE_GAME)->HasScript()) AIConfig::GetConfig(c, AIConfig::SSS_FORCE_GAME)->Change(NULL, -1, false, true); 15:58:45 <Alberth> it gets better if you save the value of the common first part, imho 15:59:46 *** M-E [~M@ip4da0d6bd.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #openttd 16:00:15 <Samu> looks like I can relocate it out of opettd.cpp 16:00:25 <Samu> openttd.cpp* 16:01:16 <Samu> yeah, apparently I can 16:02:02 *** JacobD88 [~Thunderbi@cpc80661-stap13-2-0-cust817.12-2.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: JacobD88] 16:04:25 <Samu> that code in english words: if it does not have a script, then set it to random ai, and while at it, add in the start_date parameter, Change part does that 16:05:46 <Samu> I'm moving it from openttd.cpp to ai_gui.cpp now, at the OnInvalidateData thing 16:11:59 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@255.27.199.146.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:12:34 <Samu> must check this in scenario editor, brb 16:14:53 <Samu> it works 16:15:31 <Samu> gotta lock out settings of AIs in scenario editor 16:15:39 <Samu> lock access to parameters 16:15:56 <Samu> if there's active instances 16:16:29 <Samu> scenario editor needs so much special care :( 16:16:40 *** Gja [~Martin@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 16:16:46 <Samu> can't treat it like main menu, nor in_game 16:19:34 <Samu> do you really want the AI Debug window to popup while in scenario editor or main menu? 16:19:57 <Samu> I'm going to make it not to, unless there's a reason to 16:25:49 *** andythenorth [~Andy@217.33.116.188] has joined #openttd 16:26:08 <Alberth> o/ 16:27:15 *** Islacrusez [~m4rek@79-68-224-107.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 16:30:01 *** gelignite [~gelignite@x5ce4a069.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/1kso8Ta] 16:31:29 <andythenorth> o/ 16:33:33 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host195-239-dynamic.16-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 16:34:17 <Wolf01> o/ 16:34:59 *** NGC3982 [~milda@81-228-202-215-no69.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 16:35:22 *** NGC3982 [~milda@81-228-202-215-no69.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 16:40:39 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:40:42 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 16:44:19 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~farci@i59F6B431.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 16:55:52 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1812E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:01:25 <Samu> reset landscape - remove all company owned property - nice feature 17:01:32 <Samu> but... what about gs? 17:01:36 <Samu> it isn't removed 17:05:15 *** NoShlomo [~NoShlomo@90.74.151.136] has quit [Quit: NoShlomo] 17:06:04 <Alberth> it's not a company 17:08:16 <Samu> ah, ok 17:08:36 <Samu> still, reset landscape needs to send some invalidatedata signal thing to ai_gui.cpp 17:09:45 *** rahtgaz [~rahtgaz@00021442.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:10:03 *** Arveen [~Arveen@ip-95-223-75-47.hsi16.unitymediagroup.de] has joined #openttd 17:14:32 <Wolf01> ha, nice touch V453000, an 1 fix release with the 0.13 hype XD 17:16:16 *** M-E [~M@ip4da0d6bd.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:20:37 <andythenorth> bah 17:20:44 <andythenorth> photoshop license expired :P 17:21:28 <andythenorth> canât pixel 17:21:44 <Wolf01> andy o/ I just finished building the 42039 lawnmover moc :D 17:22:24 <andythenorth> ha 17:22:35 <andythenorth> any good? 17:22:48 <Wolf01> https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9svsBvbSf-0/maxresdefault.jpg (a picture from the original creator) 17:22:56 <Wolf01> it is really cool 17:23:32 <Wolf01> mine has stickers all around, but is good too, it looks like a supercharged lawnmover :D 17:24:32 <Wolf01> now I need to print a cool card to show what the original set it was and give credits to the author 17:24:41 *** frosch123 [~frosch@00013ce7.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:25:42 <Wolf01> at least it is something different and not yet another supercar 17:25:54 <Wolf01> quak 17:26:26 <frosch123> hoi 17:26:30 <Wolf01> my first idea was to build this one http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/damianple/42039F1/20150901_112128.jpg 17:26:42 <Wolf01> but heh... another supercar 17:28:23 <frosch123> how many parts of that model only exist for that model? 17:28:37 <Samu> MarkWholeScreenDirty(); doesn't seem to care about Ai Config window 17:28:46 <Samu> widgets don't get updated 17:28:47 *** LadyHawk- [~LadyHawk@5751e87a.skybroadband.com] has joined #openttd 17:29:06 <Wolf01> none, frosch 17:29:19 <frosch123> the tires look over-specific to me 17:29:32 <Wolf01> look at this: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9svsBvbSf-0/maxresdefault.jpg 17:29:59 <frosch123> that is no "official" lego model, is it? :o 17:30:17 <Wolf01> no, but it uses the exact same pieces of the other one 17:30:46 <Wolf01> also, the original lego model is this one http://www.brickhamster.net/wp-content/uploads/1-IMG_4568-800x469.jpg 17:30:46 <frosch123> "exact same" as in "same amount, nothing left over, nothing required more"? 17:31:27 <Wolf01> some left over, no required more parts (thought I had to use some of the spare pieces 17:31:46 <Wolf01> of the original set) 17:32:37 <frosch123> "But there's this weird one that is green..." <- i feel offended 17:33:06 <Wolf01> I like green, but this green is different than the usual green which is darker 17:33:31 <Wolf01> https://thelegocarblog.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/100_5551.jpg <- 17:34:04 *** LadyHawk [~LadyHawk@5751e87a.skybroadband.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:34:06 *** LadyHawk- is now known as LadyHawk 17:37:13 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 17:37:31 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has left #openttd [] 17:39:59 <Wolf01> I have to build like 7 c-models before july, a-models are boring, b-models aren't always so good (most of the times they make your eyes bleed, with all the respect for lego designers), c-models instead are really good, so we decided to show them at the next exposition, giving all the credits to the original authors 17:53:42 <andythenorth> porsche seems to be a bit of a car crash 17:53:57 <andythenorth> what with the official explanation and such 17:54:33 <Wolf01> people is never satisfied... 17:54:52 <andythenorth> well 17:55:05 <andythenorth> I was never going to buy a â¬300 lego set 17:55:16 <andythenorth> but technic is supposed to be somewhat authentic :P 17:56:11 <andythenorth> also Adobe have billed me for Photoshop, but wonât reinstate the subscription :P 17:56:14 <andythenorth> lawks 18:07:21 <V453000> yo 18:07:30 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@255.27.199.146.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 18:07:37 <Samu> i'm triggering a nasty crash :( 18:07:47 <Samu> related with my code, :( 18:08:18 <Samu> in the scenario editor 18:09:37 <Samu> yeah, I see, OnInvalidateData can't do what I want it to do, i guess 18:15:09 <andythenorth> V453000: what photoshop version do you have? 18:15:13 <supermop_> yo andythenorth 18:15:32 <andythenorth> lo supermop_ 18:17:08 <supermop_> so no to gardening then? 18:17:13 <supermop_> back to pixeling? 18:17:37 <Eddi|zuHause> <andythenorth> photoshop license expired :P <-- what kind of ripoff license expires?!? 18:18:13 <andythenorth> supermop_: not currently :P 18:18:26 <andythenorth> subscription software, eh? 18:18:27 <supermop_> Eddi|zuHause: andythenorth my cs2 still runs fine on my 11 year old computer, as does by cs5 on my 6 year old one 18:19:02 <andythenorth> I deleted all the old versions :P 18:19:28 <supermop_> had ps 7. something on my circa 2003 desktop but that whole computer is long gone 18:19:50 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:20:06 <andythenorth> they did send me 5 âpayment failedâ warnings :P 18:20:10 <andythenorth> but I donât read email 18:20:29 <V453000> andythenorth: I pay the subscription for CC 18:20:55 <andythenorth> I have CS6, and I donât like change in the Photoshop UI :P 18:21:01 <andythenorth> is CC ok? Or is it laden with shit? 18:21:21 <V453000> I hate the subscription politics but the software is perfect for me 18:21:24 <supermop_> i have yet to use cc 18:21:44 <supermop_> i use autocad on subscription now though and that's fine 18:22:28 <supermop_> could do some pixel gardening - tropic could use some better desert plants 18:23:23 <frosch123> @topic 1 1.6.1-RC1, 1.6.0 18:23:23 <DorpsGek> frosch123: topic [<channel>] 18:23:30 <frosch123> @topic set 1 1.6.1-RC1, 1.6.0 18:23:30 *** DorpsGek changed the topic of #openttd to: 1.6.1-RC1, 1.6.0 | Website: *.openttd.org (translator: translator, server list: servers, wiki: wiki, patches & bug-reports: bugs, revision log: hg, release info: finger) | Don't ask to ask, just ask | 'Latest' is not a valid version, 'Most recent' neither | English only | Logs: @logs | #openttd.dev if this channel is really spammy 18:23:46 <andythenorth> I like subscription software, but I didnât update my expired card :P 18:23:56 <andythenorth> and thatâs now a hassle, because Adobe have shit billing systems 18:24:46 <Samu> what's the difference between MarkWholeScreenDirty and InvalidateWindowData? 18:26:10 <Samu> MarkWholeScreenDirty didn't update widgets button state 18:26:29 *** LadyHawk [~LadyHawk@5751e87a.skybroadband.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:26:37 <Alberth> it just paints the entire screen again 18:27:09 *** LadyHawk [~LadyHawk@5751e87a.skybroadband.com] has joined #openttd 18:27:15 <Samu> hmm, does that mean I got to use both? 18:27:17 <Alberth> but if nothing changed, everything is painted the same way as before 18:27:32 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:27:35 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 18:27:36 <V453000> to me adobe is the same bullshit and moneyhog as autodesk 18:27:38 <Samu> something changes, all companies were gone 18:27:45 <V453000> but at least adobe makes their programs to be good for production 18:27:51 <Samu> buttons, howver, weren't repainted 18:28:02 <V453000> if GIMP / krita were any good, I would use them 18:28:10 <V453000> but photoshop is just so much better 18:28:16 <andythenorth> âif GIMP was good' 18:28:27 <andythenorth> and GIMP has had some money injected over the years 18:28:55 <Alberth> MarkWholeScreenDirty is a big last resort of "something changed" (and no idea what), or "everything changed" eg language or screen size 18:29:38 <Alberth> buttons paint themselves as what their own state says 18:29:58 <Alberth> if you don't change that, they will paint themselves the same 18:30:04 *** rahtgaz [~rahtgaz@00021442.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:31:03 <Samu> I'm adding a InvalidateWindowData(WC_GAME_OPTIONS, WN_GAME_OPTIONS_AI); after MarkWholeScreenDirty 18:31:10 <Samu> seems that it's needed 18:31:37 <Alberth> in general, you shouldn't need MarkWholeScreenDirty 18:31:50 <Alberth> window is quite good at knowing what it needs to update 18:32:20 <Samu> that was already there, it's the reset landscape function, it removes all company infrastructure from the scenario 18:33:30 <Samu> it even kills human companies 18:33:41 <Alberth> makes sense, as it may change a lot 18:34:04 <Alberth> itsfunction is to convert a savegame back to a scenario 18:34:22 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:34:38 <Alberth> although that process is not entirely officially supported, afaik 18:34:57 <Samu> the reason i need it to update the ai config window is because of the dreaded random ais 18:35:06 *** andythenorth [~Andy@217.33.116.188] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 18:35:16 <Samu> their names.... need to go back to "(random)" 18:38:22 <Alberth> change the names that will be printed, then mark the widget that prints the names as dirty 18:39:23 <Alberth> although if you do markwholescreendirty, everything gets repainted anyway 18:39:38 <Alberth> but the names should be changed before that, then 18:40:54 <Samu> oh and it's not just the names, it's apparently the associated Parameters to that name, it's a bit messed up 18:41:38 <Samu> i'm trying to get this work right 18:42:28 <Alberth> well, the order is always, first change the data and the state of the buttons or so to the new value, then mark the changed widgets as dirty, so they get repainted 18:42:49 <supermop_> i guess 8bpp agaves will just look blue-green blobs 18:42:56 <Alberth> the latter is not really needed with markwholescreendirty 18:43:22 <Alberth> but nice anyway in case the markwholescreen is ever removed 18:44:24 <Samu> select, parameters, readme, changelog, license and the list in the window itself 18:45:27 <Samu> readme, changelog, license have been the cause of many crashes 18:45:43 <Samu> they close way too much now, kinda limited 18:45:53 <Samu> but at least I don't let them crash openttd 18:47:02 *** aard [~aard@108.134.189.109.customer.cdi.no] has joined #openttd 18:48:54 *** M-E [~M@ip4da0d6bd.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #openttd 18:51:24 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:01:39 <supermop_> is there a way to have firs rubber trees not look like palms? 19:04:46 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:06:59 *** andythenorth [~Andy@217.33.116.188] has joined #openttd 19:11:19 <supermop_> andythenorth: does rubber plantation take a particular tree sprite from base set? 19:12:19 <andythenorth> probably :) 19:14:19 *** gelignite [~gelignite@x5ce4a069.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 19:17:00 *** Clockworker__ [Clockworke@177.203.86.41] has joined #openttd 19:17:01 *** Clockworker_ [Clockworke@177.203.86.41] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:18:05 <supermop_> so best way to get a tree that does not look like a palm in there would be a tree new grf? 19:19:08 <Alberth> likely :) 19:19:24 <Alberth> or add to firs itself 19:20:17 *** Clockworker_ [Clockworke@177.203.86.41] has joined #openttd 19:20:17 *** Clockworker__ [Clockworke@177.203.86.41] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:20:39 *** aard [~aard@108.134.189.109.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:21:16 <Samu> I may need some advice on this piece of code 19:21:55 <Samu> https://paste.openttdcoop.org/pojcblf4i 19:22:15 *** aard [~aard@108.134.189.109.customer.cdi.no] has joined #openttd 19:22:28 <Samu> lines 22, 23 and 24, is it a good idea to delete other windowses from the invalidatedata? 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(www.adiirc.com)] 19:43:36 *** Quatroking [~Quatrokin@ip226-139-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 19:46:56 <supermop_> andythenorth: is there an original tree that looks like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hevea_brasiliensis#/media/File:Rubber_tree_plantation.JPG 19:46:59 <Samu> should revise the way windowses are being closed/managed/invalidated t.t 19:47:06 <Samu> I'm getting quite lost 19:48:39 <Samu> oh right, random ai dont have a license or a readme 19:48:52 <Samu> less stuff to deal with 19:51:05 <Samu> AI license of (random) keks... just managed to crash this, apparently i have to deal with it 19:51:23 <Samu> this is so overwhelming 19:53:59 <andythenorth> supermop_: 1873 or so 19:54:13 <andythenorth> you can check in the sprite aligner in-game 19:54:28 <supermop_> i dont have original graphics anymore 19:54:35 <andythenorth> :o 19:54:35 <andythenorth> for shame 19:57:56 *** aard [~aard@108.134.189.109.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:00:38 <supermop_> but anything sort of deciduous looking would probably be close enough 20:01:02 <andythenorth> meh, âcursor up, enterâ in my shell :P 20:01:12 <andythenorth> hg revert was the last command :P 20:01:15 <andythenorth> oops 20:14:04 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has left #openttd [] 20:22:43 *** frosch123 [~frosch@00013ce7.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 20:34:22 *** Arveen [~Arveen@ip-95-223-75-47.hsi16.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 20:40:25 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@50.37.117.65] has joined #openttd 20:48:12 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 21:01:13 *** rahtgaz [~rahtgaz@00021442.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: I'll be Bach] 21:05:17 *** NoShlomo [~NoShlomo@90.74.151.136] has joined #openttd 21:08:26 *** andythenorth [~Andy@217.33.116.188] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 21:13:25 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1812E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:13:35 *** zeknurn` [~sup@hd9483bd7.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 21:16:51 *** M-E [~M@ip4da0d6bd.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:17:05 *** M-E [~M@ip4da0d6bd.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #openttd 21:18:29 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483bd7.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:18:29 *** zeknurn` is now known as zeknurn 21:21:44 *** APTX [~APTX@aptx.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:23:52 *** APTX [~APTX@87-207-72-117.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 21:28:53 *** gelignite [~gelignite@x5ce4a069.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/1kso8Ta] 21:33:56 *** M-E [~M@ip4da0d6bd.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:55:14 *** keoz [~keikoz@pha75-1-81-57-54-15.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:00:19 *** Clockworker__ [Clockworke@177.203.86.41] has joined #openttd 22:02:03 *** Clockworker_ [Clockworke@177.203.86.41] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:04:32 *** rahtgaz [~rahtgaz@00021442.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 22:07:23 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:16:02 *** Hiddenfunstuff [~Geth@y32.ip1.anvianet.fi] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Now with extra fish!] 22:22:15 *** chomwitt [~chomwitt@athedsl-377807.home.otenet.gr] has joined #openttd 22:27:59 *** ConductorCat [~Conductor@pool-108-56-0-223.washdc.btas.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 22:34:23 *** ConductCat [~Conductor@pool-108-56-0-223.washdc.btas.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:41:12 *** Rejf [rejf@nintendos.pl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:51:59 *** pereba_ [AdiIRC@187.113.182.21] has joined #openttd 22:59:14 *** pereba [~adiirc@2804:7f2:80:c796:c9d:dbab:3ac7:d72a] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:59:19 *** pereba_ is now known as pereba 23:39:16 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~farci@i59F6B431.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:42:00 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 23:46:17 *** Klanticus_ [~quassel@177.34.163.192] has joined #openttd 23:49:26 *** Klanticus [~quassel@177.34.163.192] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]