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There is an infinite supply of them 08:08:45 <Alberth> or lego, for that matter :) 08:09:04 <Alberth> no point in trying to collect them all 08:12:15 <Wolf01> but it's about 30⬠:P 08:13:57 <Wolf01> meh, ok, I'll wait for another discount 08:25:05 <Wolf01> but now, time to play factorio 08:25:49 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19065.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 08:32:42 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 08:34:47 <V453000> wise words 08:34:49 <V453000> see you in a week 08:34:54 <Wolf01> o/ 08:35:30 <V453000> or at 4 am "P 08:35:31 <V453000> :P 08:38:15 <Wolf01> the flame turret saved my boundaries, it's really good... too bad I have to build a pipe all around along with the ammo belt for gun turrets :P 08:49:14 <V453000> I like it a lot, especially the logistic difference/problem it adds 08:49:44 <V453000> while being strong as fuck vs. masses of enemies, it can't really hold them off alone ... unless you build walls in a way that the turret minimum range isn't a problem 08:49:59 <V453000> still, accompanying them with other turret types is always a good idea 08:50:01 <V453000> which is great 08:53:04 <Wolf01> and trains are fantastic now 08:53:27 <V453000> they iz 08:54:37 <Wolf01> I already started to make the locomotives the colour of the cargo they have, black for coal, red for copper, blue-ish for iron... 08:55:01 <V453000> I think that's pretty common 08:55:04 <Wolf01> so I can recognize which one passes over me 08:55:05 <V453000> I do exactly the same :P 08:58:03 <Wolf01> the only thing I don't like much is "diesel locomotive", you can run it with anything but diesel XD 09:02:30 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-137-142.natnow.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Valete omnes] 09:03:12 *** Tirili [~Unknown@HSI-KBW-082-212-030-207.hsi.kabelbw.de] has joined #openttd 09:05:53 <V453000> there was many talks about renaming it but idk why it never happened 09:06:08 <V453000> I'll open a card and see if someone reacts to it 09:06:27 *** Hiddenfunstuff [~Geth@y32.ip1.anvianet.fi] has joined #openttd 09:06:29 <Wolf01> I'm expecting electric trains and catenary for 0.14 :D 09:07:20 <Wolf01> so no more refueling at stations and dead trains everywhere when a biter chews a pole around the map 09:07:21 <Wolf01> XD 09:07:24 <V453000> I wouldn't expect that 09:07:37 <V453000> but who knows what kovarex comes with in a month 09:07:46 <V453000> I might have the fluid wagon graphics done by then :P 09:08:44 <Wolf01> oh, I think I found a bug... the grenade damage upgrade icon is the same as the cluster grenade 09:13:21 <V453000> it's kovarex graphics 09:13:23 <V453000> placeholder 09:18:17 <Wolf01> too bad I can't use flame turrets on outposta 09:18:23 <Wolf01> *outposts 09:19:40 *** Myhorta[1] [~Myhorta@2001:8a0:ed63:ac01:1a67:b0ff:fe91:1823] has joined #openttd 09:22:49 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:27:11 <V453000> you can 09:27:32 <Wolf01> pipes everywhere 09:27:43 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 09:28:04 <V453000> blueprints ftw 09:29:41 <Wolf01> the problem is to get there the fuel 09:30:08 <Wolf01> mmmh, shit, big spitters 09:32:39 <V453000> trainz? 09:33:03 <V453000> even long distance pipes kind of work 09:33:23 <V453000> ofc not ideal final solution, but if you need temporary boost, ... 09:33:38 <Wolf01> I use light oil for flamers 09:33:51 <Wolf01> I always have too much of it 09:34:25 <Wolf01> tbh, the fluid handling should allow to barrel any kind of fuel, and not just oil 09:36:58 <V453000> I see it as a very nice complication in logistics 09:37:04 <V453000> you can use crude oil, which can be barreled 09:37:41 <V453000> or you can refine the crude oil on site to get better efficiency, convert heavy oil to more light oil / solid fuel, and petroleum gas into plastic/sulfur, which can be delivered back to main base/circuit production again 09:37:47 * andythenorth -> Hogs 09:37:48 <V453000> everything definitely has solutions 09:37:59 <V453000> but I do see that barrel all / fluid wagon for all is convenient 09:38:05 <V453000> I personally like it the way it is now 09:38:23 <V453000> with the fluid wagon it will just become trivial 09:39:43 <Wolf01> but you can use a belt to cross a factory where you can't use a train 09:40:36 <V453000> so? :) 09:40:39 <andythenorth> Alberth: lists or tuples when defining a sequences that is a constant? 09:40:50 <andythenorth> silly question, but have to choose one or the other :P 09:40:56 <Alberth> tuples 09:41:21 <andythenorth> figures 09:41:34 <andythenorth> existing code uses lists, looks a bit wrong 09:41:39 <Alberth> :) 09:47:59 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 09:56:04 <andythenorth> [] is neater than () :P 09:56:09 <andythenorth> nvm 09:58:18 *** Tirili [~Unknown@HSI-KBW-082-212-030-207.hsi.kabelbw.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:59:32 <Alberth> less blocky :) 10:01:35 <Wolf01> lol, spitters even attacked a fish 10:04:42 <V453000> fuck the planet 10:16:19 *** Samu [~oftc-webi@po1-84-91-250-188.netvisao.pt] has joined #openttd 10:16:22 <Samu> hi 10:19:15 <Samu> I am still running ship ai tests, it's just that they take too much time 10:19:35 <andythenorth> most of my newgrf compile looks like this https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ZCX5abb5Dr0/maxresdefault.jpg 10:19:44 <andythenorth> the graphics processor looks more like this http://lh3.ggpht.com/abramsv/SKfMADhHSHI/AAAAAAAAZPA/jibXEaJmCAo/s800/wtrhydfbxfvbc.jpg 10:19:45 <andythenorth> :( 10:24:41 <Wormnest> Samu thatÂŽs because you set your vehicle limits too high when itÂŽs known that ships really slow things down 10:25:13 <Samu> i guess :( 10:26:01 <Samu> main problem is pathfinder dealing with blocked ships, or ships lost 10:26:25 <Samu> if ships aren't lost, it is actually running good 10:30:13 *** BAWS_MOOCH [~45d4ad33@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 10:30:17 *** BAWS_MOOCH [~45d4ad33@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has left #openttd [] 10:30:44 <Wormnest> I think I almost got nocabÂŽs ship handling fixed 10:43:02 <Samu> 1080p is being relegated to "entry level" :( 10:43:17 <Samu> my monitor is 1080p 10:47:25 <Alberth> it works less now? 10:49:50 <Wolf01> I don't know why one does need more than 1080p just to play ottd, minecraft and factorio 10:53:50 <andythenorth> what is 1080p? :P 11:07:29 <Samu> rx 480 launch was a disgrace :( 11:07:33 <Samu> rip AMD 11:11:07 <Wolf01> yes, I read about burned pci slots 11:11:35 <Wolf01> if there's a 150W limit, maybe is there for a reason 11:11:54 *** NoShlomo [~NoShlomo@90.74.151.136] has joined #openttd 11:21:01 <Samu> asus boards are affected the most 11:21:08 <Samu> how unexpected... 11:21:27 <andythenorth> ach 11:21:33 <andythenorth> indirection and delegation 11:21:42 <Wolf01> also a lot of MSI are affected 11:21:43 <andythenorth> graphics processor runs separate to nml compile 11:21:53 <andythenorth> so each cannot know too much about the other 11:21:57 <Samu> ppl still think asus is good 11:22:00 <andythenorth> but they have to pass information :P 11:22:00 <Samu> asus mobos 11:23:24 <Samu> the technology behind stopping fans 11:23:31 <Samu> is bad 11:24:42 <Samu> why did everyone have to copy asus 11:25:02 <Samu> it's good on paper, it's bad in the long run 11:26:03 <Samu> how does it decide when to stop the fans? 11:26:16 <Samu> gpu chip only? what about the other components 11:26:26 <Wolf01> I have an asus mobo and it had no problem for 9 years 11:26:30 <Samu> they usually heat more than the gpu 11:26:31 <V453000> nvidia master race 11:26:57 <Wolf01> also an asus-nvidia graphic card 11:27:24 <Wolf01> I think that if you don't mix too many brands everything works fine 11:29:14 *** Myhorta[1] [~Myhorta@2001:8a0:ed63:ac01:1a67:b0ff:fe91:1823] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:30:24 <Samu> underclocking rx 480 fixes the issue 11:30:31 <Samu> oh well... amd engineers 11:30:43 <Samu> it also gives more fps 11:30:52 <V453000> isn't the rx 480 already shit without any underclocking? 11:31:23 <Samu> in sum, the reference design is bad 11:31:44 <Samu> it spikes too often past that 75w limitation 11:32:16 <V453000> well it's not like gtx 1080 reference card doesn't thermal throttle 11:32:45 <V453000> reference cards are wtf 11:33:02 <Samu> the 8 GB vram is especially spiky 11:33:10 <Samu> not much about the 4 GB 11:33:27 <V453000> 4 is low nowadays 11:35:39 <Samu> zen is amd's last chance 11:36:01 <Samu> polaris was a fail 11:38:24 <Samu> rip PC gaming if zen also fails 11:38:30 *** Myhorta[1] [~Myhorta@2001:8a0:ed63:ac01:1a67:b0ff:fe91:1823] has joined #openttd 11:38:40 <Wolf01> just buy nvidia 11:39:25 <Samu> microsoft must be proud of this failure 11:39:35 <Samu> more consolization of windows 10 11:43:47 *** FLHerne [~flh@cpc4-papw5-2-0-cust175.5-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 12:24:45 *** roidal [~roland@194-152-173-123.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 12:35:38 <andythenorth> lawks 12:35:58 <andythenorth> class attributes 12:36:07 <andythenorth> Alberth: ^ do I have to pay a fine? :o 12:36:56 <Alberth> if they're constant, nah :) 12:37:09 <andythenorth> theyâre constant :) 12:37:25 <andythenorth> I have a weird delegation of control back and forth between consist class and vehicle class :P 12:37:29 <andythenorth> itâs ugly but eh 12:37:31 <Alberth> just a bit non-pythonic 12:48:59 *** Gja [~Martin@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 12:50:14 *** Myhorta[1] [~Myhorta@2001:8a0:ed63:ac01:1a67:b0ff:fe91:1823] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:02:13 <Wolf01> meh, 32x axle heavily bent :| 13:02:41 <Wolf01> about 15° 13:07:50 *** mrslave [~oftc-webi@BC06EB0D.catv.pool.telekom.hu] has joined #openttd 13:08:38 <mrslave> Hello there, i would like to ask for advice regarding starting to develop/bugfix/etc openttd if possible. :) 13:13:09 <Wolf01> https://wiki.openttd.org/Development ? 13:15:15 *** mrslave [~oftc-webi@BC06EB0D.catv.pool.telekom.hu] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:16:26 <andythenorth> Wolf01: 32x axles are mostly bent no? 13:16:40 <Wolf01> not so much 13:16:54 * andythenorth wonders if they can be straightened 13:17:07 <Wolf01> maybe if I leave it under the sun in a flat surface 13:19:30 <andythenorth> heat, hang it vertically in the freezer with a weight attached 13:19:32 <andythenorth> dunno 13:19:46 <Wolf01> http://imgur.com/YDK7ca5 13:20:25 <Wolf01> already asked for a replacement, which will come broken for sure 13:21:25 <Wolf01> tlg knows about long axles problems and they won't do anything, because a little straight cardboard box to keep axles safe costs too much :| 13:24:07 <Wolf01> so, now I have two bent 32x axles... the other one just slightly bent, but it's enough to make a lot of friction 13:26:00 <Wolf01> and I can't even use the pieces, because they might ask for replacement of the entire box like when the box is damaged 13:49:08 <andythenorth> that is bent 13:52:56 *** roidal_ [~roland@193-154-139-174.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 13:54:01 * andythenorth refactored the Road Hog compile 13:54:07 <andythenorth> no class attributes 13:54:12 <andythenorth> binned a load of other stuff as well 13:54:33 *** Clockworker [~Clockwork@200.102.228.231] has joined #openttd 13:54:42 <andythenorth> âthink of the time savedâ :P 13:59:46 *** roidal [~roland@194-152-173-123.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:59:53 *** Clockworker_ [~Clockwork@200.102.228.231] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:01:51 <andythenorth> wonder how many bugs I added 14:10:44 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 14:22:45 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 14:22:48 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 14:29:24 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:37:35 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19065.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:52:16 <supermop__> they make a 32 bump long axel> 14:52:25 <supermop__> ??? 14:56:11 <Alberth> only non-straight ones, apparently 14:57:39 *** NoShlomo [~NoShlomo@90.74.151.136] has quit [Quit: NoShlomo] 15:09:17 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@108-221-157-231.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 15:10:14 <skrzyp> there's a talk about "security" in NetBSD at pkgsrccon :D 15:11:52 *** Arveen [~Arveen@ip-109-91-72-28.hsi12.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 15:11:52 <skrzyp> oops 15:11:55 <skrzyp> wrong window 15:11:58 <skrzyp> #openbsd not #openttd 15:12:37 <Alberth> all this open stuff, so confusing :) 15:17:30 *** Myhorta[1] [~Myhorta@2001:8a0:ed63:ac01:1a67:b0ff:fe91:1823] has joined #openttd 15:19:41 <Eddi|zuHause> the keys are like right next to each other 15:23:03 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 15:50:31 *** FLHerne [~flh@cpc4-papw5-2-0-cust175.5-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:00:00 *** Clockworker_ [~Clockwork@200.102.228.231] has joined #openttd 16:06:41 * andythenorth terrifying automation 16:07:29 *** Clockworker [~Clockwork@200.102.228.231] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:14:51 <Alberth> now only teach it to draw pixels :) 16:20:46 <andythenorth> teaching it to draw cargo :P 16:21:08 <andythenorth> amount of declarative code for each vehicle is reducing a lot 16:21:15 <andythenorth> flexibility of set design also decreasing :D 16:27:01 *** FLHerne [~flh@cpc4-papw5-2-0-cust175.5-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 16:36:40 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~farci@i59F6C3DB.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 16:42:14 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~farci@i59F6D0B8.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:46:53 <Alberth> as long as you don't need it :) 16:48:46 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:48:49 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 16:57:06 *** FLHerne [~flh@cpc4-papw5-2-0-cust175.5-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:58:52 *** Rejf [rejf@nintendos.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:59:16 *** Rejf [rejf@nintendos.pl] has joined #openttd 17:08:14 *** FLHerne [~flh@cpc4-papw5-2-0-cust175.5-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 17:33:01 <Wolf01> https://www.flickr.com/photos/vedosololego/25796305024/ :D 17:33:06 *** Bluelight [~chatzilla@90.149.206.238] has joined #openttd 17:45:40 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r27610 trunk/src/lang/korean.txt (2016-07-02 19:45:35 +0200 ) 17:45:41 <DorpsGek> -Update from Eints: 17:45:42 <DorpsGek> korean: 1 change by telk5093 17:47:56 <andythenorth> crocodile 18:02:43 *** FLHerne [~flh@cpc4-papw5-2-0-cust175.5-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: There's a real world out here!] 18:03:02 *** FLHerne [~flh@cpc4-papw5-2-0-cust175.5-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 18:09:08 <andythenorth> hmm 18:09:12 <andythenorth> set does not return reliably :P 18:09:19 <andythenorth> order varies 18:09:22 <andythenorth> thatâs useful to know 18:11:30 <Alberth> also holds for dictionaries 18:12:09 <andythenorth> known :) 18:12:18 <Alberth> if you have a sort order, that would work :) 18:12:37 <andythenorth> I have a list, which Iâm getting the set from? 18:12:42 *** Bluelight [~chatzilla@90.149.206.238] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 47.0.1/20160623154057]] 18:13:01 <Alberth> list has known order of retrieval :) 18:14:15 <Alberth> in Java, we switched to having a stable set/dict at work 18:14:28 <Alberth> ie it keeps insertion order 18:14:57 <Alberth> avoids a lot of nasty surprises :) 18:15:24 <andythenorth> Iâll figure out how to keep the list order, but remove duplicates :P 18:15:38 <Alberth> have a set or dict next to it 18:16:24 <andythenorth> there is some orderedset thing 18:16:28 <andythenorth> but Iâll ignore that 18:16:41 <Alberth> yeah, they do it the other way around 18:16:51 <Alberth> a set with a list next to it 18:17:03 <Alberth> iirc 18:17:25 <Alberth> it does make sense to wrap it in a class so you can forget about it :p 18:22:16 <andythenorth> ta 18:29:16 <Wolf01> andythenorth, http://brickset.com/sets/42024-1/Container-Truck alt. builds, which one do you suggest? I think the compact wheel loader is nicer 18:32:42 <andythenorth> wheel loader best 18:34:04 *** FLHerne [~flh@cpc4-papw5-2-0-cust175.5-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:43:45 <Wolf01> I need at least 2 more c-models :| 18:43:55 <Wolf01> I have 5 now 18:47:14 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19065.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:51:31 *** FLHerne [~flh@cpc4-papw5-2-0-cust175.5-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 19:23:46 *** heffer [felix@hyperion.fk.cx] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:51:11 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-137-142.natnow.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 19:58:40 *** heffer [~felix@hyperion.fk.cx] has joined #openttd 20:07:14 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has left #openttd [] 20:09:00 *** drac_boy [~oftc-webi@modemcable027.125-163-184.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 20:09:23 <drac_boy> any of you got bookmarks for historic train photos around europe? (beside railfaneurope and railpicture anyway..) 20:09:27 <drac_boy> just curious is all :) 20:19:41 <FLHerne> drac_boy: If you don't mind watermarks (or paying), Colour-Rail have a large collection of UK ones http://www.colourrail.com/Default.aspx 20:27:33 <drac_boy> mm a few interesting non-uk photos there thanks 20:31:04 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has left #openttd [] 20:31:17 * drac_boy also earlier this morning managed to find the first online photo of the old days re cows being loaded onto 2-axle vans on the RhB railway :p 20:39:00 *** roidal_ [~roland@193-154-139-174.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.4] 20:42:58 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.136.141.100] has quit [] 20:50:26 <Supercheese> I like how Hearts of Iron 4 has an achievement titled "Transport Tycoon" :) 20:54:23 *** FLHerne_ [~flh@cpc4-papw5-2-0-cust175.5-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 20:54:23 *** FLHerne [~flh@cpc4-papw5-2-0-cust175.5-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:33:29 *** drac_boy [~oftc-webi@modemcable027.125-163-184.mc.videotron.ca] has left #openttd [] 21:42:39 *** Quatroking [~Quatrokin@5070983A.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:06:55 *** Compu [~Compu@cpe-67-241-224-121.stny.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FjWe31S_0g] 22:11:13 *** Compu [~Compu@cpe-67-241-224-121.stny.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 22:11:36 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:15:25 *** Progman_ [~progman@p57A19D08.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 22:19:46 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19065.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:19:46 *** Progman_ is now known as Progman 22:38:56 *** FLHerne_ [~flh@cpc4-papw5-2-0-cust175.5-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: There's a real world out here!] 22:54:54 *** Myhorta[1] [~Myhorta@2001:8a0:ed63:ac01:1a67:b0ff:fe91:1823] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:16:04 <Wolf01> 'night 23:16:06 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 23:31:01 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19D08.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:36:42 *** zeknurn` [~sup@hd9483b22.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 23:41:04 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b22.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:41:04 *** zeknurn` is now known as zeknurn 23:58:31 *** Samu [~oftc-webi@po1-84-91-250-188.netvisao.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]