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<V453000> yo 10:38:08 *** mira100 [~oftc-webi@208.51.broadband5.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 10:38:33 <mira100> mira200 10:40:31 *** fjb [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 10:40:31 *** fjb__ [~frank@p4FF2FDE5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:42:49 <mira100> +i 10:45:01 <Alberth> o/ 10:45:25 <Wolf01> o/ 10:51:24 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 10:51:26 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 10:51:26 *** mira100 [~oftc-webi@208.51.broadband5.iol.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:54:25 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:55:31 *** fjb__ [~frank@p4FF2FDE5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:55:31 *** fjb [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:19:49 *** Arveen [~Arveen@ip-109-91-72-28.hsi12.unitymediagroup.de] has joined #openttd 11:25:30 *** fjb [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 11:25:30 *** fjb__ [~frank@p4FF2FDE5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:53:30 <Samu> 2002, 2020, 2024, 2026 11:54:12 <Samu> who's working on trans? 11:54:18 <Samu> trans ai 11:55:21 <Samu> fanioz 11:57:25 <Samu> fanioz last post 15 jun 2015 11:57:29 <Samu> will he return? 12:01:27 *** NoShlomo [~NoShlomo@90.74.151.136] has joined #openttd 12:23:43 <Alberth> you posted in the trans topic, right? 12:24:00 <Alberth> just wait if he returns the next few weeks :) 12:25:36 <Alberth> you can also check last visit, perhaps (don't know for sure). That should give you an idea whether he still reading the forum, which often suggests he is still following the openttd area. 13:10:51 *** Samu [~oftc-webi@po1-84-91-250-188.netvisao.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:25:34 *** fjb__ [~frank@p4FF2FDE5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 13:25:34 *** fjb [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:40:34 *** fjb [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 13:40:34 *** fjb__ [~frank@p4FF2FDE5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:54:18 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 13:54:22 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 13:55:32 *** Gja [~Martin@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 14:00:50 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:09:05 *** Samu [~oftc-webi@po1-84-91-250-188.netvisao.pt] has joined #openttd 14:09:08 <Samu> @logs 14:09:08 <DorpsGek> Samu: http://irclogs.qmsk.net/channels/openttd 14:18:57 *** Miniweeeed [~oftc-webi@85.140.57.30] has joined #openttd 14:19:23 *** Miniweeeed [~oftc-webi@85.140.57.30] has quit [] 14:22:31 *** CompuDesktop [~Compu@cpe-67-255-36-150.stny.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FjWe31S_0g] 14:22:48 *** CompuDesktop [~Compu@cpe-67-255-36-150.stny.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 14:23:08 *** CompuDesktop is now known as Compu 14:23:10 *** Compu [~Compu@cpe-67-255-36-150.stny.res.rr.com] has quit [] 14:23:28 *** Compu [~Compu@cpe-67-255-36-150.stny.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 14:55:35 *** fjb__ [~frank@p4FF2FDE5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 14:55:35 *** fjb [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:25:35 *** fjb [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 15:25:35 *** fjb__ [~frank@p4FF2FDE5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:27:06 *** TheMask96 [martijn@lust.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:31:29 *** TheMask96 [martijn@lust.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 16:26:26 *** Flygon [~Flygon@210-84-52-219.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:40:36 *** fjb__ [~frank@p4FF2FDE5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:41:20 *** fjb [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:45:59 <supermop> yo 16:49:17 <Eddi|zuHause> ho 16:51:12 <Wolf01> ho 16:51:16 <supermop> i have about 10 kg of cement sitting in my kitching now 16:51:25 <supermop> need to think of something cool to make ith it 16:52:10 <Wolf01> A football ball, then place it on a pavement 16:52:41 <supermop> actually that might require more than 10 kg 16:52:51 <supermop> unless i get some aggregate 16:53:44 <supermop> maybe i can make some little scale tetrapods 16:53:47 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:53:50 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 16:54:21 <Wolf01> Those are really nice 16:54:59 <supermop> do some miniature coastal engineering 16:55:37 <supermop> wanted to go to the beach this past weekend to steal some sand but rand out of time 16:57:22 <Wolf01> I just came home from the beach 16:58:37 <supermop> metabolist modular flower pots is the other idea 16:58:50 <supermop> but might need to buy more cement 16:59:06 <supermop> then think of more things to use all of it, etc 17:09:45 <Alberth> forever: think_of_things_to_make(); buy_more_cement(); 17:16:13 <V453000> what was the max railtype number? 15 or 16? 17:18:00 <Alberth> 16 definitely not 17:18:20 <V453000> so 15? 17:18:28 <Alberth> computers start at 0, so 16 railtypes is from 0 to 15 inclusive 17:18:49 <V453000> yes? 17:21:40 <Alberth> Rail type sets may use up to 16 railtypes says the grfspec, so yep 17:24:54 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19570.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:26:24 <V453000> I assume that includes RAIL, ELRL, MONO, MGLV 17:35:20 <Alberth> if you want to support them, yep, would be my guess 17:35:53 <Alberth> but I never carefully studied railtypes 17:36:51 <Alberth> Samu: You reported a crash in Trans that was caused by your "company-0 can be an AI" change? 17:39:06 *** ToneKnee [~quassel@host86-135-236-82.range86-135.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 17:44:00 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 17:54:39 *** frosch123 [~frosch@00013ce7.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:55:37 *** fjb [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:55:38 *** fjb__ [~frank@p4FF2FDE5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:55:39 <MonkeyDrone> damn, how big is OTTD source code file? 17:55:47 <MonkeyDrone> 294MB and still downloading 17:56:35 <glx> hmm trunk only or you are downloading from root ? 17:58:48 <planetmaker> MonkeyDrone, you then surely download the source of everything, including every release version. Checkout trunk only for the current state 17:58:56 <planetmaker> do not checkout svn root 17:59:06 <MonkeyDrone> planetmaker: hehe, too late 17:59:27 <MonkeyDrone> planetmaker: unless it's in GBs , i should stop, 17:59:34 <MonkeyDrone> oh crap,i see it, its downloading 1.0.4 right now.. 18:00:17 <MonkeyDrone> thanks planetmaker, i just wanted to go through the code and see how it was written and stuff 18:00:35 <glx> src dir is around 40MB 18:00:43 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 18:01:11 <glx> my trunk dir is 3.4GB but that includes object files :) 18:01:29 <Alberth> hola 18:01:45 <planetmaker> MonkeyDrone, 2GB is svn root on my disk 18:01:47 <MonkeyDrone> glx: damn 18:01:52 <MonkeyDrone> planetmaker: ouch... 18:01:59 <MonkeyDrone> grabbing 1.6 src files now 18:02:04 <Alberth> MonkeyDrone: checkout from root svn contains all releases ever done in source form 18:02:09 <andythenorth> catmaker 18:02:14 <andythenorth> hi planetmaker o/ 18:02:23 <MonkeyDrone> Alberth: yeah, i noticed when i looked at hte files downloading, it was doing 1.0.4 xD 18:02:36 <planetmaker> \o 18:02:45 <Alberth> you definitely want to add "/trunk" at the end :) 18:03:07 <planetmaker> yeah, better grab trunk source instead of releases like 1.6.x 18:03:32 <Alberth> planets now include cats, or the other way around? 18:04:03 <planetmaker> that depends on the view point ;) 18:04:05 <MonkeyDrone> alright, will try to grab ze trunk 18:04:13 <MonkeyDrone> ah, 12mb 1.6 source 18:04:54 <MonkeyDrone> nvm 87MB, i'm going blind in my old age 18:04:56 <Alberth> and that includes the subversion meta data 18:05:14 <Alberth> which at least used to contain a copy as well 18:10:09 <andythenorth> is cat? 18:14:08 <Alberth> copy cat 18:19:07 <frosch123> hoi 18:22:39 <andythenorth> sea cat 18:22:46 <andythenorth> lake cat :P 18:23:33 <andythenorth> test game with Road Hog anyone? 18:23:37 <andythenorth> all trucks are ~ok 18:23:44 <andythenorth> trams are good 1870-1950 or so 18:23:47 <andythenorth> then broken sprites :P 18:23:51 <andythenorth> âwork in progress' 18:24:29 *** fjb [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:25:54 <Samu> Alberth: hi, AIs can get company 0 too 18:25:59 <Samu> not my patch 18:26:21 <andythenorth> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/7966/tramz-aug-2016.png 18:26:49 <Samu> i was testing dedicated servers 18:27:14 <Samu> first company created by an AI is 0 18:27:29 <Alberth> Samu: ok, fair enough 18:28:04 <Samu> testing trans requires me to take company 0, and wait for it to start on company 1 18:28:08 <frosch123> are the courier trams for mail? 18:28:13 <andythenorth> yes 18:28:18 <andythenorth> and other express cargos 18:28:21 <frosch123> such ttd :p 18:28:25 <andythenorth> such 18:28:42 *** Macha [~Macha@89.100.194.189] has joined #openttd 18:28:49 <frosch123> is the green the second cc? 18:28:54 <frosch123> or are they just green? 18:29:42 <Alberth> Samu: sounds like a bug that also exists in trunk then, that's what I was wondering about, thank you 18:30:01 <Samu> why would it be a bug:( 18:30:07 <andythenorth> the green is 2cc, except the fruit trams 18:30:12 <Samu> i think it's trans ai that's bug 18:30:15 <andythenorth> fruit trams are olive green 18:30:25 <Samu> the other ais don't have this problem 18:30:49 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~farci@i59F6DC71.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 18:33:05 <Alberth> likely 18:38:10 <andythenorth> metal tram? o_O http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/monthly_06_2011/post-6861-0-53012800-1308516787_thumb.jpg 18:39:43 <frosch123> do they fall down when braking? 18:40:48 <andythenorth> maybe :P 18:40:50 <andythenorth> http://nebula.wsimg.com/obj/OTFEMURDNDczM0E0RTYwRDg2Rjg6MTY5MjkyNTQyOTQ2OTdlZWJkYzBiODFhNGY5Mzg4MjA6Ojo6OjA= 18:40:59 <andythenorth> I could use the fire cycle? 18:41:04 <andythenorth> doesnât work on my computer, but eh :) 18:50:41 *** shirish [~quassel@117.195.99.136] has joined #openttd 18:54:14 *** mescalito [~mescalito@195-183-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee] has quit [Quit: mescalito] 19:16:59 *** NoShlomo [~NoShlomo@90.74.151.136] has quit [Quit: NoShlomo] 19:28:38 <supermop> ding ding 19:45:51 <supermop> andythenorth: nice green fruit boxes 19:46:07 <supermop> abt to start a hog game 19:46:12 <supermop> 1890? 19:46:19 <andythenorth> got the latest from bundles? 19:46:39 <supermop> bananas but ill get a nightly 19:46:55 <supermop> if thats where to find them? 19:47:51 <andythenorth> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/road-hog/push/ 19:53:04 <supermop> worth grabbing a current horse to go with it? 19:53:42 *** fjb_ [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:55:11 <andythenorth> yes 19:55:16 <andythenorth> latest is on bananas though 19:55:23 <andythenorth> only the brit roster 19:55:29 <andythenorth> none of the others are done enough yet 19:58:11 <supermop> what gs to use mm 20:22:18 <andythenorth> bee 20:22:24 <andythenorth> with FIRS 20:22:58 <ST2> Extreme economy ;) 20:23:40 *** frosch123 [~frosch@00013ce7.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 20:28:26 *** Arveen [~Arveen@ip-109-91-72-28.hsi12.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 20:33:51 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has left #openttd [] 20:45:04 <andythenorth> Extreme lacks sources of chemicals 20:45:05 <andythenorth> lame 20:45:41 <andythenorth> only 4 industry types producing them :P 20:46:10 <andythenorth> 8 consuming 20:47:15 <ST2> we have 2 servers with FIRS (Extreme) and a player suggested a later start year because "some" industries only appear after 2001 - Petroleum fuel was in the case 20:47:38 <ST2> I actually changed the start year but dnt ask me more details... FIRS noob here xD 20:49:15 <andythenorth> biorefineries probably 20:49:45 <andythenorth> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/docs/html/industries.html#biorefinery 20:49:57 <andythenorth> only available from 2001 http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/docs/html/code_reference.html#industries 20:50:03 <andythenorth> probably a bad design choice 20:50:09 <andythenorth> realism > gameplay :( 20:50:37 <Eddi|zuHause> everything looks like wrong design from some angle... 20:50:45 <Eddi|zuHause> doesn't mean it actually is wrong design 20:50:51 <ST2> hehe 20:51:01 <ST2> well, since only one... must be it :) 20:51:19 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: one way to test the design is empirically :) 20:51:39 <andythenorth> and date restrictictions on industries arenât surviving very well :) 20:51:52 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: but for "empirical" tests you have a too small test sample and no proper control group 20:52:37 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: you only ever hear from the people that dislike some aspect, not from the people that like that very same aspect 20:52:48 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: so your test results are biased 20:53:27 <supermop> not enough to haul about with hogs in arctic 20:54:12 <andythenorth> 'test' 20:54:21 <andythenorth> mostly they are biased by my opinion 20:54:30 <andythenorth> that _never_ happens in real science :P 20:55:19 <andythenorth> ho ethanol industry is much older than I knew 20:55:20 <andythenorth> :P 20:55:44 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:56:31 <andythenorth> Henry Ford recommended ethanol as preferred fuel for Ford Model T 20:59:21 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: I have the idea (not not the urge to implement it) - have all industries always available, but modify the industry probability by date 20:59:34 <andythenorth> the game doesnât build industries frequently enough to bother though 20:59:46 <andythenorth> -not 21:00:00 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: ethanol is as old as drunk people... 21:00:45 <Eddi|zuHause> and of course distilled alcohol is very well known as a flammable substance 21:02:44 <andythenorth> hmm 21:02:56 <andythenorth> maintaining relative probabilities over time is too hard 21:02:59 <andythenorth> nice idea though 21:06:49 *** Progman [~progman@p57A19570.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:12:56 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 22:05:10 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~farci@i59F6DC71.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:16:35 *** Macha [~Macha@89.100.194.189] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:22:14 *** Gja [~Martin@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 22:55:04 <Wolf01> 'night 22:55:10 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:57:24 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@89.136.141.100] has quit [] 23:09:30 *** Hiddenfunstuff [~Geth@y32.ip1.anvianet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:11:53 *** Compu [~Compu@cpe-67-255-36-150.stny.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FjWe31S_0g] 23:20:09 *** Compu [~Compu@cpe-67-255-36-150.stny.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 23:32:30 <Samu> 2012, 2035, 2042, 2027