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00:56:24 *** Markk has quit IRC 00:56:29 *** Markk has joined #openttd 00:58:43 *** SpComb has quit IRC 00:58:47 *** SpComb has joined #openttd 01:12:13 *** derstefan[m] has joined #openttd 01:21:22 <ST2> @logs 01:21:22 <DorpsGek> ST2: https://webster.openttdcoop.org/index.php?channel=openttd 01:45:27 *** derstefan[m] has left #openttd 02:50:19 *** tokai|noir has joined #openttd 02:50:19 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai|noir 02:57:20 *** tokai has quit IRC 03:30:50 *** glx has quit IRC 04:27:51 *** cosmobird has joined #openttd 05:12:46 *** Snail has quit IRC 05:20:51 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 06:07:59 *** cosmobird has quit IRC 06:25:47 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 07:12:10 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 08:03:38 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 has quit IRC 08:04:02 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 08:16:34 <peter1138> morning 08:27:48 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 08:28:08 <Wolf01> o/ 08:31:43 <peter1138> \o 09:23:17 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 09:45:32 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 09:45:35 *** andythenorth has left #openttd 10:17:44 *** JacobD88 has joined #openttd 10:22:14 <Flygon> Whelp. 10:22:24 <Flygon> I don't think these cargo ships are every gonna profit. 10:22:30 <Flygon> Running for distances too long. >_>" 10:26:14 <Flygon> nvm made a profit 10:28:05 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 10:36:36 *** orudge` has quit IRC 10:37:04 *** orudge` has joined #openttd 10:37:05 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge` 10:51:05 *** markjones has quit IRC 10:51:16 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 10:52:13 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 10:52:24 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 10:58:25 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 10:58:30 *** Hiddenfunstuff has joined #openttd 10:58:36 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 10:59:33 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 10:59:46 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 11:09:57 <__ln__> https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/5644 11:12:29 *** Snail has joined #openttd 11:31:27 *** Snail has quit IRC 11:35:46 *** TheMask96 has quit IRC 11:37:26 *** TheMask96 has joined #openttd 11:57:01 <Wolf01> Yeah, I'm losing at endless space at ultra-easy :( 11:57:16 <Wolf01> BUT! 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13:31:46 <Wolf01> More than before 13:32:43 <Wolf01> Bugs are like slimes, when you hit them they split 13:37:26 <peter1138> 10 13:37:51 <peter1138> keep forgetting it's wednesday already 13:37:53 <peter1138> that means 13:37:58 <peter1138> mountain biking night :D 13:42:46 <andythenorth> get an orange 13:42:53 * andythenorth hasn’t ever owned a proper mountain bike 13:43:03 <peter1138> it is orange 13:43:19 <andythenorth> is it a orange or an orange or orange? 13:44:10 <Wolf01> Mine was white and pink -.- 13:44:20 <andythenorth> mine is orange, but it’s not a mountain bike 13:44:41 <peter1138> http://legsfeelingnopressure.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/marin_1_766.jpg 13:44:45 <peter1138> semi-orange anyway 13:45:08 <Wolf01> I'd call that yellow 13:45:15 <peter1138> it's orange 13:45:20 <Arveen> Wednesday night is 1/2 price burger night at a local mexican restaurant 13:48:23 <andythenorth> http://anova.at/scott-sub10/2.jpg 13:48:33 <andythenorth> mine doesn’t have whitewall tyres though 13:48:38 <andythenorth> and I cut the bars down 13:48:49 <andythenorth> and took the wheel reflectors off 13:49:51 <peter1138> https://www.cube.eu/media_ftp/BIKE_Bilder_2016/777400/details/D777400_02.jpg 13:49:59 <peter1138> that's my weekend club ride bike 13:50:24 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 13:50:25 <peter1138> my commuting bike is a mercian light tourer 13:50:43 <peter1138> i clearly need more bikers 13:50:46 <peter1138> -r 13:54:00 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 14:04:43 *** Alberth has joined #openttd 14:04:43 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Alberth 14:04:49 <Alberth> o/ 14:04:49 <Wolf01> o/ 14:10:23 <Arveen> .oOo. 14:12:29 <andythenorth> lo Alberth 14:13:26 <Alberth> hi hi 14:13:45 <Alberth> so, I was vandalizing the newgrf specs :p 14:17:13 <peter1138> oh no 14:18:23 <andythenorth> MB humour 14:18:28 <andythenorth> I enjoy it 14:32:17 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 14:32:30 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 14:34:37 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 14:34:52 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 14:39:29 <supermop> http://www.bianchiusa.com/fileadmin/archives/2012/Fixed/Pista.jpg 14:39:56 <supermop> i rode one of those for 40km on gravel once, does that make it a mountain bike? 14:40:28 <supermop> mine has bullhorn bars and a slightly smaller chainring though 14:41:24 <supermop> also mine does not have the rear brake 14:46:49 <supermop> coke oven looks good 14:46:54 <peter1138> nah, drop bars 14:47:14 <peter1138> must be cyclocross... 14:53:03 <andythenorth> @seen supercheese 14:53:03 <DorpsGek> andythenorth: supercheese was last seen in #openttd 2 weeks, 2 days, 18 hours, 24 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: <Supercheese> looks like pixels 14:53:43 <andythenorth> ach 14:53:53 <andythenorth> supermop: I so need to bookmark Bernd and Hilla Becher 14:53:56 <andythenorth> or buy a book 14:54:04 <supermop> Yeah 14:54:16 <supermop> the lime kiln book is basically FIRS porn 14:54:28 <andythenorth> £70 14:54:29 <quiznilo> mornin' 14:54:34 <andythenorth> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Typologies-Industrial-Buildings-Bernd-Becher/dp/0262025655 14:54:52 <supermop> peter1138: no drop bars on mine but i still had track tyres on it 14:55:04 <supermop> i didn't know the trail was going to be gravel 14:56:02 <andythenorth> supermop: any particular book best? 14:56:30 <supermop> only ones ive looked through are a coal tipple one and the lime kiln one 14:56:58 <supermop> moma has a lot of their work in permanent collection, so i've seen it mostly there 14:58:10 <supermop> http://aperture.org/shop/stonework-and-lime-kilns-bernd-and-hilla-becher-books/ 14:58:33 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 14:58:54 *** orudge` has quit IRC 14:59:28 *** orudge` has joined #openttd 14:59:28 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge` 14:59:42 <supermop> in case you want to spend the next year drawing different styles of lime kilns for every 20 year period from 1700 to 1960 15:09:57 <andythenorth> I just bought Industrial Landscapes 15:10:03 <andythenorth> hope that’s not £58 wasted :P 15:10:08 <andythenorth> most expensive book I ever bought 15:12:58 <supermop> haha 15:13:13 <supermop> welcome to the world of 'serious' art books 15:13:26 <supermop> all insanely expensive 15:13:46 *** orudge` has quit IRC 15:13:52 *** orudge` has joined #openttd 15:13:52 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge` 15:14:39 <supermop> then you have to buy expensive shelves to put them on 15:42:24 *** Maraxus has joined #openttd 15:43:34 <supermop> https://www.vitsoe.com/gb 15:44:09 <supermop> then start buying books about the designer of the shelves 15:46:24 <supermop> andythenorth: NRT needs newgrf bus stops: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Soviet-Bus-Stops-Christopher-Herwig/dp/099319110X/ref=pd_sim_14_8?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=X3QZVAKNX85BHG45GVDT 15:54:31 <supermop> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Brutal-London-Construct-Concrete-Capital/dp/3791383000/ref=pd_sim_14_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=AJHJ7ZZ7GKDWKJTS1JQ2 15:55:36 *** Gja has joined #openttd 16:09:59 *** TheMask96 has quit IRC 16:12:33 *** TheMask96 has joined #openttd 16:18:27 *** Maraxus has quit IRC 16:27:48 * Wolf01 hunts for food 16:27:52 <Wolf01> BBL 16:34:01 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 16:40:37 <Alberth> o/ 16:44:53 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 16:45:09 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 16:45:26 <frosch123> hoin 16:46:12 *** Progman has joined #openttd 16:56:16 *** orudge` has quit IRC 16:56:34 *** orudge` has joined #openttd 16:56:35 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge` 16:59:36 *** glx has joined #openttd 16:59:36 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 17:12:20 *** Gja has quit IRC 17:20:20 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 17:48:26 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 17:48:52 *** Wolf01|Phone has joined #openttd 17:49:39 <Wolf01|Phone> o/ 17:50:14 *** Gja has joined #openttd 17:50:41 <Wolf01|Phone> Pub talking about football and shit... 17:51:17 <Eddi|zuHause> so you live in a place where pubs talk? 17:51:27 <Wolf01|Phone> Yes 17:53:27 <Wolf01|Phone> I'm already bored, and I still need to eat and get high on ginger ale as always 17:53:58 <Eddi|zuHause> <also insert joke here about the ambiguity between talking about shit and actually shitting> 17:56:49 <Wolf01|Phone> Ok now they are talking about Lapo Elkann 17:58:49 <quiznilo> I was so happy, I thought I had found a bug finally 17:59:07 <quiznilo> user error... no bug 18:00:42 <Wolf01|Phone> Ok, about to get food 18:01:11 <Eddi|zuHause> so which part were you most happy about it? that there was a bug? that you found it? or that it wasn't a bug after all? 18:08:51 <Wolf01|Phone> It's quiet, where is cat? 18:09:14 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 18:12:13 <Wolf01|Phone> Mmh kaaay, they want me on the other app, this one will disconnect when loses focus, so I'll come back from home 18:12:44 *** Wolf01|Phone has quit IRC 18:15:38 <Eddi|zuHause> "disconnect when loses focus" sounds like a terrible design decision 18:21:45 <supermop> sounds like an insane design decision 18:22:10 <supermop> even if you wanted to use your phone as an irc only terminal 18:35:49 <andythenorth> frosch123: “Station names: Literal | Esoteric | OpenTTD Defaults” o_O 18:36:45 <andythenorth> I’d rather do it on a cb though, not an action 7 or whatever it is that puts a conditional around an action 0 18:36:48 <andythenorth> :P 18:37:51 <quiznilo> Eddi|zuHause: since I can't contribute because I refuse to learn C++ the best I can do is find bugs 18:38:26 <Eddi|zuHause> since when is knowing c++ a requirement? :p 18:38:38 <quiznilo> C or C++ 18:38:58 <Eddi|zuHause> i barely know any c++, but i have contributed the craziest things 18:39:15 <andythenorth> make crazy great again 18:39:44 <andythenorth> "It looks like the rubidium hits an invisible wall." 18:39:47 <andythenorth> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-39642992 18:41:42 <quiznilo> finding bugs is very valuable... difficult with older, active projects like ottd though 19:01:37 *** thegreatpl has joined #openttd 19:05:40 <andythenorth> low tech coke oven http://cokeovenspark.com/files/2017/03/CokeOvensPicSM-1024x789-954x375.jpg 19:05:48 <andythenorth> would have been faster to draw :) 19:06:17 <frosch123> cover the whole industry with smoke effects? 19:07:09 <andythenorth> also valid 19:07:48 <andythenorth> what station name for Coke Oven? 19:07:51 <andythenorth> Smokey Hill? 19:08:00 <andythenorth> Char Cross? 19:08:23 <andythenorth> [random selection of two words, using a cb that can concatenate strings :P] 19:09:43 <andythenorth> Black Down 19:13:21 <frosch123> saithe 19:13:44 <frosch123> when i check the dictionary half of the related terms are fish 19:14:29 *** keoz has quit IRC 19:15:07 <frosch123> puff magic 19:15:09 <thegreatpl> hmmm... what is the best place to post a bug with openttd? 19:15:47 <frosch123> depends on the bug 19:16:47 <thegreatpl> GSCompanyMode is not working. Always get ERR_PRECONDITION_FAILED when I try to do anything. 19:17:10 <frosch123> ask on the support forum then 19:18:06 <frosch123> but ERR_PRECONDITION_FAILED generaly means that the condition lister under "precondition" in the api doc is not meet 19:19:14 <thegreatpl> as far as I can tell, they are met. 19:19:35 <thegreatpl> And I get it for both building airports, and leveling terrain. 19:19:53 <frosch123> https://www.tt-forums.net/viewforum.php?f=65 <- there is the forum 19:20:11 <frosch123> but you can also check existing scripts which make use of gscompanymode 19:22:01 <thegreatpl> None of them from what I guess. Its used for building things under a company. All the current GS are for Goals it seems. 19:22:36 <thegreatpl> still spends money though. 19:22:42 <frosch123> "the split scenario gs" is known to do landscaping 19:23:13 <frosch123> https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=61378 19:24:16 *** funnel_ has joined #openttd 19:25:21 <andythenorth> oh they found a FIRS bug :) https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1185550#p1185550 19:25:40 <andythenorth> although I am responsible for some of those (bad extents I think)... 19:25:55 <andythenorth> in this case, if some twat is going to change the wind direction on smoke, I really can’t help :P 19:27:33 <frosch123> yeah, the wind direction does not match your shading 19:29:56 <andythenorth> well spotted 19:30:03 *** smoke_fumus has joined #openttd 19:30:43 <andythenorth> maybe I should withdraw all my grfs Because 32BPP 19:33:05 <frosch123> you could set your grf as 8bpp via action14, and then add 32bpp sprites with random pixel garbage 19:33:36 <frosch123> that way ottd will use 8bpp if only firs is active, but use the garbage if some other grf or baseset forces 32bpp 19:33:47 <andythenorth> is that better or worse than deleting all my forum posts, ever? o_O 19:33:53 <andythenorth> as vandalism goes 19:34:11 <frosch123> deleting is relative 19:34:26 <frosch123> you should look for something more creative than just 3 dots per post 19:34:41 <andythenorth> subtly rewrite every single one of them? 19:34:54 <andythenorth> replace every single one with content from V453000 posts? 19:35:10 <frosch123> possibly just swap the contents of posts 19:35:15 <frosch123> or some sentences between them 19:35:31 <andythenorth> ‘you can no longer edit this post' 19:35:36 <andythenorth> might impede me 19:35:59 * andythenorth probably won’t rage quite over 32bpp, eh :P 19:36:14 <frosch123> request a dump of the forum db, so you can branch your own version 19:36:21 <andythenorth> ho good call 19:36:44 <andythenorth> I’d need some kind of ransom / threat to make *rudge do it though 19:37:03 * andythenorth doesn’t want to be the grumpy old man 19:37:10 <andythenorth> just 32bpp seems a distraction 19:37:21 <andythenorth> and meanwhile GarryG keeps churning out more and more good stuff 19:37:27 <frosch123> usually threats go like "i will eat this kitten" 19:38:44 <andythenorth> harsh for the kitten 19:38:58 <frosch123> anyway, if we make the drawing multithreaded and add frame animation to all tiles, we no longer need the horitonal-extent restriction 19:39:20 <andythenorth> ‘just like that' 19:39:44 <frosch123> should i post in the suggestion forum? 19:39:46 <andythenorth> I suspect that those 22 words are deceptively simple sounding 19:40:38 *** smoke_fumus has quit IRC 19:40:45 <andythenorth> what problem does it solve? :D 19:41:30 <frosch123> it keeps clutter from the other forums 19:41:42 <frosch123> but ok, not posting also solves that 19:42:17 <LordAro> frosch123: don't be mean to kittens 19:42:45 <V453000> wot_ 19:42:47 <V453000> ? 19:42:50 <frosch123> what have they ever done for us? 19:44:39 <LordAro> frosch123: silly question https://i.imgur.com/dkwIixo.gifv 19:47:14 * andythenorth goes back to animating coke 19:47:15 <Eddi|zuHause> so they defended us from evil killer robots? 19:48:15 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 19:48:19 <Eddi|zuHause> <andythenorth> ‘you can no longer edit this post' <-- that's because someone once went back and replaced every single of his own posts with "..." 19:48:37 <andythenorth> orly? o_O 19:48:43 * andythenorth wonders who that was 19:48:55 <Eddi|zuHause> a person who shall not be named 19:49:08 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: read the whole backlog, not just parts 19:49:20 <frosch123> starting in 2007 at least 19:49:22 <andythenorth> it’s more fun if he picks random lines 19:49:42 <andythenorth> ach I have left my glasses...elsewhere 19:49:48 <andythenorth> drawing without them is fricking hard 19:54:38 <orudge`> andythenorth: ye what now? 19:55:22 <orudge`> I think I still have a backup of the database from when someone (SAC?) [...]'d all their posts. I intended to restore them, never quite got around to it though... 19:55:34 *** orudge` has quit IRC 19:56:12 <orudge> also that's better 20:01:35 <supermop> andythenorth: love the earthen/brick oven 20:01:59 * andythenorth reading simutrans forums 20:05:07 <supermop> andythenorth: just buy a medium format camera and photograph industrial buildings in black and white 20:19:51 *** keoz has joined #openttd 20:22:32 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 20:30:34 *** Stimrol has joined #openttd 20:31:59 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 20:40:42 <andythenorth> would have been useful 5 days ago :) http://www.yoeltaom.as/blog/2016/3/19/republic-steel-historical-imagery 20:41:45 *** Alberth has left #openttd 20:46:00 *** Gja has quit IRC 20:47:03 *** Jibber has joined #openttd 20:53:04 <Wolf01> Bah, boring match :( 20:53:35 <Wolf01> <Eddi|zuHause> "disconnect when loses focus" sounds like a terrible design decision <- that's what you get when you use free apps filled with ads 20:55:04 <andythenorth> what is action 0D? 20:55:09 <andythenorth> I can’t see it in newgrf docs 20:55:17 <andythenorth> https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1185624#p1185624 20:58:05 <supermop> andythenorth: that benzoil plant exterior is pretty great 20:59:09 <andythenorth> I liked the line drawing schematic 21:00:07 <andythenorth> also bed 21:00:09 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 21:00:28 <peter1138> evening 21:01:17 *** sim-al2 is now known as Guest739 21:01:18 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 21:01:40 <Wolf01> Welcome back, had a pleasing ride? 21:01:52 <peter1138> yeah twas good 21:01:57 <peter1138> very dry ground 21:03:01 <peter1138> so no mud to clean off :p 21:04:14 <Wolf01> I got bored at pub instead, also too cold outside since it rained for the last 3 days and all the warmth gone away 21:04:15 *** Guest739 has quit IRC 21:09:15 <supermop> i would have hoped there would have been more italian bars than pubs in italy 21:09:31 <Wolf01> It's an Irish pub 21:09:48 <supermop> sounds like midtown manhattan 21:11:36 *** Hiddenfunstuff has quit IRC 21:13:03 <supermop> more irish pubs than 'american' bars 21:13:17 <supermop> although there it is also 'irish' 21:16:37 *** gelignite has quit IRC 21:18:25 <Wolf01> https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aLDdmAV_460sv.mp4 automation 21:26:04 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 21:28:28 *** Progman has quit IRC 21:29:23 *** supermop_home has joined #openttd 21:42:43 <supermop> ooh 21:54:49 *** keoz has quit IRC 22:07:15 *** thegreatpl has quit IRC 22:09:52 *** supermop_ has joined #openttd 22:15:41 *** Stimrol has quit IRC 22:16:15 *** supermop_home has quit IRC 22:17:47 *** JacobD88 has quit IRC 22:23:17 *** supermop has quit IRC 22:27:26 *** Snail has joined #openttd 22:30:10 *** supermop_ has quit IRC 22:33:48 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 22:47:03 <Wolf01> 'night 22:47:05 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 22:48:22 *** efess has quit IRC 22:52:09 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 22:59:47 *** sim-al2 is now known as Guest754 22:59:49 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 23:04:21 *** Guest754 has quit IRC 23:13:47 *** Jibber has quit IRC 23:29:10 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 has joined #openttd 23:32:19 *** Snail has quit IRC 23:32:26 *** Snail has joined #openttd 23:33:14 *** Snail has joined #openttd 23:33:53 *** Snail has quit IRC 23:34:03 *** Snail has joined #openttd 23:34:31 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 23:34:41 *** Snail has quit IRC 23:34:50 *** Snail has joined #openttd 23:35:39 *** Snail has joined #openttd 23:36:27 *** Snail has joined #openttd 23:37:15 *** Snail has joined #openttd 23:37:53 *** Snail has quit IRC 23:38:03 *** Snail has joined #openttd 23:38:51 *** Snail has joined #openttd 23:39:39 *** Snail has joined #openttd 23:40:27 *** Snail has joined #openttd 23:41:15 *** Snail has joined #openttd 23:41:53 *** Snail has quit IRC 23:42:03 *** Snail has joined #openttd 23:42:50 *** Snail has joined #openttd 23:45:28 *** efess has joined #openttd