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00:01:32 *** cHawk has quit IRC 00:03:23 <Samu> noob question 00:03:43 <Samu> when chosing an engine what's better, tractive effort or power? 00:12:41 *** cHawk has joined #openttd 00:22:43 <supermop> depends on what you want it for I guess 00:23:13 <supermop> but generally if you have a heavy freight train, you want both 00:23:45 <ST2> [01:09:11] <Samu> [02:03:43] when chosing an engine what's better, tractive effort or power? <<-- what's the map? need to climb hills (TE) or only acceleration? 00:24:57 <ST2> fun fact is: Samu test all the small things... and from times to times makes this "global" questions that leaves us dumb xD 00:40:05 <Samu> the map is server 7 00:42:34 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 has quit IRC 00:57:08 *** Ox4 has joined #openttd 00:57:11 <Ox4> hello guys 00:57:30 <Ox4> could somebody help me with playing mid files in game? 00:58:55 <Ox4> I have downloaded openmsx and put it to .openttd/data directory on my Linux machine. I can play mid files using either timidity or fluidsynth programs, but in the game not :-( 01:04:31 <glx> I think the right debug level should give more info 01:05:22 <Ox4> hm, ok, just a moment 01:07:47 <Ox4> dbg: [driver] Successfully loaded music driver 'extmidi' 01:08:36 <Ox4> glx: ^^^ 01:09:18 <Ox4> here is the full log: https://paste.pound-python.org/show/3mgWKT8OgGzc5VYnnOPn/ 01:10:33 <glx> "-d driver" should be enough ;) 01:12:19 <Ox4> ALSA lib pcm.c:8306:(snd_pcm_recover) underrun occurred 01:12:26 <Ox4> and nothing other lines 01:13:54 <Wolf01> 'night 01:13:58 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 01:15:20 *** Samu has quit IRC 01:19:29 *** efess has quit IRC 01:19:58 <glx> http://wiki.openttd.org/FAQ_troubleshooting#The_Jukebox_won.27t_play_any_music.2Fskips_through_tracks_really_fast 01:20:16 *** efess has joined #openttd 01:20:31 <Ox4> glx: I saw this article 01:25:06 <supermop> ah man 01:25:32 <Ox4> huh? 01:25:35 <supermop> try to look up best way to debride a steel pan after cooking something greasy 01:25:56 <supermop> and its all pictures of gross flesh wounds 01:26:23 <supermop> forgot that real meaning of debride is to remove dead tissue from a wound 01:26:42 <supermop> I'm glad I decide to clean this pan after I ate my dinner 01:31:31 <glx> Ox4: I don't know then, maybe double check the file location 01:31:48 <glx> but I'm not a specialist on linux 01:36:43 <glx> but if openmsx is shown in options then the files are in the right place 01:39:32 <glx> and indeed your log tells the files are found 01:41:33 <glx> original_windows is also added to the list but all the files are missing 01:41:43 *** supermop_home has joined #openttd 01:43:03 <Ox4> mmmm 01:43:24 <Ox4> "log tells the files are found" and "but all the files are missing" what does it mean? 01:44:30 <glx> I mean openttd finds openmsx files 01:44:42 <Ox4> yes, I see 01:44:46 <glx> and it doesn't finds original_windows files 01:45:02 <Ox4> should it find? 01:45:09 <Ox4> I am using Linux systemd 01:45:15 <Ox4> system* 01:45:16 <glx> only if you have them 01:45:37 <Ox4> hm 01:45:51 <glx> the file list is included in openttd but the files are not mandatory 01:46:44 <glx> anyway you can check in options which music set is enabled 01:46:58 <Ox4> OpenSMX 01:47:09 <Ox4> I set it manually through the game menu 01:47:22 <glx> so this is correct 01:47:45 <glx> the problem may be the extmidi command then 01:49:19 *** supermop has quit IRC 01:50:22 <Ox4> fluidsynth -a pulseaudio -i /home/int/dev/tmp/openttd/fluid-soundfont-3.1/FluidR3_GM.sf2 $* 01:50:28 <Ox4> here it is ^^^ 01:51:39 <glx> openttd uses execlp(this->command, "extmidi", this->song, (char*)0); 01:51:56 <glx> and by default this->command = "timidity" 01:52:32 *** supermop has joined #openttd 01:55:14 <Ox4> yes, I know 01:55:19 *** supermop_home has quit IRC 01:55:40 <Ox4> I have tried both timidity and fluidsynth programs :-( 01:55:48 <Ox4> but have no results yet 01:56:57 *** efess has quit IRC 01:57:02 <ST2> btw, why is hard to have an answer for this: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/6556 01:57:12 <glx> using musigdriver = "extmidi:cmd=<command>" ? 01:57:26 *** efess has joined #openttd 01:57:48 <glx> in openttd.cfg 01:57:50 <ST2> I've already made some questions about the Installer 01:58:52 <glx> nobody really want to touch nsi files ;) 01:59:18 <Ox4> glx: yup 02:05:13 <glx> I can't help more Ox4, you should ask later when more people is awake 02:05:48 <Ox4> ok, thank you for the support anyway :) 02:06:48 <glx> the chan member are mostly in CEST timezone 02:19:00 *** Ox4 has quit IRC 02:46:52 *** Supercheese has joined #openttd 02:50:51 *** tokai|noir has joined #openttd 02:50:51 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai|noir 02:57:39 *** tokai has quit IRC 03:23:03 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 03:26:14 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 03:55:11 *** glx has quit IRC 05:34:53 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 05:36:02 *** keoz has joined #openttd 06:12:37 *** Cubey has quit IRC 06:25:03 *** Supercheese has quit IRC 06:29:01 *** keoz has quit IRC 06:33:46 *** Supercheese has joined #openttd 06:38:59 *** cosmobird has joined #openttd 06:41:32 *** Keridos has quit IRC 06:53:01 *** Ox4 has joined #openttd 06:53:09 <Ox4> good morning every one 06:55:13 <Ox4> Could somebody help me with playing mid musing in openttd? I can play mid files which I downloaded and placed to ~/.openttd/data directory by timidity program, but there is no any music in the game. I only see the list of compositions in the player. 07:00:02 <Eddi|zuHause> you need to create an .obm file which lists the midi files and their checksum 07:00:04 <Supercheese> I believe you have to compile them into a ca.... 07:00:06 <Supercheese> that 07:00:08 <Supercheese> dangit 07:01:25 <Ox4> Eddi|zuHause: I am using opemsx package which I downloaded from openttd server 07:01:51 <Eddi|zuHause> does it show up in settings? 07:02:09 <Ox4> sure, I selected it from drop-down menu 07:03:05 <Eddi|zuHause> then i don't know what you do wrong 07:03:48 <dihedral> good morning 07:06:54 *** smoke_fumus has joined #openttd 07:09:29 <Ox4> Eddi|zuHause: btw I use linux system 07:10:38 <Eddi|zuHause> you could try some options to the -m command line parameter, but i must go, i cannot help you with that 07:14:29 <Ox4> anyway here is the debug log, maybe someone else will help: https://paste.pound-python.org/show/CYqgtWVlZGXfLj8mxA5H/ 07:25:58 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 07:42:40 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 07:50:06 *** Supercheese has quit IRC 07:50:54 *** Sova has joined #openttd 07:59:21 <__ln__> aaaaaand it's snowing. more snow on the ground than often on christmas. 07:59:54 <crem> And after that they say about global warming! 07:59:57 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 08:01:15 <__ln__> it can be an effect of global warming :/ 08:35:39 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 08:48:38 *** Ethereal_Whisper has quit IRC 08:51:46 *** cosmobird has quit IRC 08:58:11 *** cosmobird has joined #openttd 09:02:03 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 09:02:05 *** andythenorth has left #openttd 09:09:19 *** Markk has quit IRC 09:18:44 *** Markk has joined #openttd 10:05:55 *** cosmobird has quit IRC 10:07:20 <Ox4> hello? 10:13:14 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 10:13:19 <Wolf01> o/ 10:13:56 <Wolf01> The sky is falling :O 10:18:30 <Alkel_U3> Not yet. But I'm getting my umbrella ready. 10:22:10 <Wolf01> Lol, I started a new game in factorio before figuring out that I didn't select the beta "why is all the same?" 10:26:16 *** Sova has quit IRC 10:26:30 *** Gja has joined #openttd 10:30:08 <Alkel_U3> oh, and I there I was thinking I'm playing XCOM tonight, or get some sleep 10:32:20 <Wolf01> Nah, succumb to the factorio call and play 72 hours straight 10:37:39 <Alkel_U3> I bet I can run OPENTTD on second monitor 10:38:11 <Wolf01> I play 2 games at time when they don't need much attention 10:40:00 <Alkel_U3> well, maybe Insaniquarium in screensaver mode... :-) 10:41:19 <Wolf01> The what? 10:43:15 <Alkel_U3> insane aquarium clicker where you feed fish so they grow and fart out coins you collect to buy lasers to protect your aquarium prom invading aliens 10:43:48 <Alkel_U3> In a nutshel... There's a bit more to it :-) 10:44:04 <Wolf01> Lol 10:44:31 <Alkel_U3> It's from the same guys who made Plants vs Zombies 10:45:44 <Wolf01> I play transport empire, which is a mobile game, too bad it pauses when the window loses focus 10:46:39 <Wolf01> But I set up the things and close the game, just to look back at it twice a day 10:48:17 <Wolf01> Oook, let's play factorio instead 10:48:22 <Alkel_U3> Insaniquarium had a pocketpc version. Made my classmates think I was having an epileptic seizure : -) 10:49:39 <Wolf01> I used to play chuzzle on pocketpc 10:50:04 <Alkel_U3> There was something about mobile Factorio in some FFF... 10:50:57 *** Gja has quit IRC 10:51:18 <Alkel_U3> Also, Age of Empires. Like, almost full desktop version. On a pocketpc. That was awesome. 10:56:38 *** Sova has joined #openttd 10:57:31 <Wolf01> I had the scummvm installed too :P 10:57:52 <Wolf01> I still have it on my lumia, I can even play monkey 3 10:57:57 <peter1138> is scummvm a the? 11:00:03 <Wolf01> Isn't it? 11:00:24 <peter1138> well 11:00:35 <peter1138> i don't play the openttd or buy games on the steam 11:03:33 <Wolf01> Ok, I admit I put some italian there, we use to say that even for people names, like "the peter1138" when talking about them, but is most used for female names 11:04:35 <__ln__> also not 'the batman', but yes 'the hulk' 11:06:16 <peter1138> incredible! 11:06:44 <Alkel_U3> incredible the hulk 11:45:18 *** TheMask96 has quit IRC 11:47:56 *** TheMask96 has joined #openttd 12:01:43 <Wolf01> I hope this time I would be able to get that evil achievement in factorio (craft only 111 items) 12:02:56 <Wolf01> I'm at 105 so far, and I only crafted the exact amount of things to have the assembly machine 1 12:04:37 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 12:06:58 *** stolen has quit IRC 12:08:45 <Wolf01> Shit... automation 2 is 2x40 not 40 :( I need more gears 12:11:01 *** stolen has joined #openttd 12:11:40 *** stolen is now known as Guest1140 12:34:15 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 12:37:00 *** chomwitt has joined #openttd 12:39:19 *** Hiddenfunstuff has joined #openttd 13:12:15 *** cosmobird has joined #openttd 13:34:24 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 13:46:18 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 13:50:49 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 14:06:50 *** keoz has joined #openttd 14:21:47 *** Alberth has joined #openttd 14:21:48 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Alberth 14:21:56 <Alberth> o/ 14:22:04 <crem> \o 14:23:09 <LordAro> o| 14:23:14 *** Maraxus has joined #openttd 14:28:53 *** Gja has joined #openttd 14:33:05 *** Gja has quit IRC 14:48:04 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 14:55:28 *** Maraxus has quit IRC 14:56:25 *** smoke_fumus has quit IRC 14:57:02 *** Sova has quit IRC 14:57:24 *** smoke_fumus has joined #openttd 14:58:13 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 15:07:21 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 15:11:44 *** cosmobird has quit IRC 15:19:47 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 15:51:48 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 15:56:41 *** cosmobird has joined #openttd 15:58:35 *** Cubey has joined #openttd 16:02:42 <Alberth> o/ 16:03:52 <andythenorth> hi 16:12:37 <Eddi|zuHause> is scummvm female in italian? 16:17:15 <quiznilo> I have a FIRS question, on the primary industries, the Port type, it takes 3 inputs, good, fruit, and manufacturing supplies... beyond the 'Current production' levels 'normal/enhance/gung-ho', is there any return to shipping more stuff to it? 16:17:35 <quiznilo> would love to see the output calculation for it 16:19:08 <andythenorth> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/entry/src/templates/produce_primary.pynml#L10 16:19:38 <andythenorth> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/entry/src/templates/check_primary_supplies_delivered.pynml 16:19:50 * andythenorth taking that literally :P 16:20:05 <andythenorth> there’s no return to delivering above the gung-ho threshold 16:20:17 <andythenorth> it’s typically quite hard to achieve 16:20:18 <quiznilo> excellent 16:20:30 <quiznilo> I'm on my way to becoming a FIRS expert 16:20:34 <andythenorth> at that point, you can fund another port-type industry adjacent :P 16:20:45 <andythenorth> a row of 5 bulk terminals looks quite good 16:20:49 <quiznilo> clever 16:21:06 <quiznilo> if you can get the bulk terminal to build :p 16:21:16 <quiznilo> "This is not a suitable area" 16:21:30 <andythenorth> it’s a faff 16:21:36 <andythenorth> I swear there’s a bug with coast tiles 16:22:00 <quiznilo> I usually just spam click in the general vicinity until it takes :) 16:23:54 <andythenorth> try bulldozing the coast first 16:25:33 *** Guest1140 is now known as stolen 16:30:41 *** TheMask96 has quit IRC 16:31:59 *** TheMask96 has joined #openttd 16:32:10 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 16:33:06 <andythenorth> how many parameters should there be? o_O 16:35:31 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 16:39:41 *** JacobD88 has joined #openttd 16:43:39 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 16:52:12 *** Arveen has joined #openttd 16:52:33 *** JacobD88 has quit IRC 16:55:22 <quiznilo> 42! 16:56:16 *** glx has joined #openttd 16:56:17 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 16:56:26 *** Gja has joined #openttd 16:57:48 *** Arveen2 has quit IRC 17:04:21 *** Jibber has joined #openttd 17:08:01 *** efess has quit IRC 17:08:18 *** efess has joined #openttd 17:25:24 *** stolen has quit IRC 17:26:36 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 17:31:53 *** Progman has joined #openttd 17:35:40 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 17:40:15 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 17:40:34 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 17:42:43 *** Keridos has joined #openttd 17:49:22 *** jinks has joined #openttd 17:59:02 *** stolen has joined #openttd 17:59:31 *** stolen is now known as Guest1157 18:02:39 *** Keridos has quit IRC 18:02:54 *** Keridos has joined #openttd 18:04:53 *** Keridos has quit IRC 18:05:08 *** Keridos has joined #openttd 18:40:46 <andythenorth> hmm 18:42:41 <Alberth> it is, isn't it? 18:55:46 <andythenorth> solid hail here 18:55:55 <andythenorth> looks like 2cm of snow 18:56:59 <Alberth> :O 18:57:17 <Alberth> kids go wild! 18:57:31 <Alberth> (bit too late for them, perhaps) 19:06:33 <andythenorth> they have been out in it 19:07:53 *** Jibber has quit IRC 19:08:31 *** Supercheese has joined #openttd 19:10:26 <Eddi|zuHause> <andythenorth> how many parameters should there be? o_O <-- that question can only ever have wrong answers 19:11:01 <frosch123> is there a parameter to select the number of parameters? 19:17:02 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm sure there would be, if the grf specs allowed it :p 19:19:55 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 19:19:55 *** Progman has quit IRC 19:19:55 *** gelignite has quit IRC 19:19:55 *** TheMask96 has quit IRC 19:19:55 *** cosmobird has quit IRC 19:19:55 *** Alberth has quit IRC 19:19:55 *** keoz has quit IRC 19:19:55 *** btfo has quit IRC 19:19:55 *** APTX has quit IRC 19:19:55 *** peter1138 has quit IRC 19:19:55 *** funnel__ has quit IRC 19:19:55 *** skrzyp has quit IRC 19:19:55 *** Defaultti has quit IRC 19:19:55 *** rellig has quit IRC 19:19:55 *** OsteHovel has quit IRC 19:19:55 *** dlite has quit IRC 19:19:55 *** kais58 has quit IRC 19:19:55 *** jonty-comp has quit IRC 19:19:55 *** ToBeFree has quit IRC 19:19:55 *** ^Spike^ has quit IRC 19:21:19 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 19:21:19 *** Progman has joined #openttd 19:21:19 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 19:21:19 *** TheMask96 has joined #openttd 19:21:19 *** cosmobird has joined #openttd 19:21:19 *** Alberth has joined #openttd 19:21:19 *** keoz has joined #openttd 19:21:19 *** btfo has joined #openttd 19:21:19 *** APTX has joined #openttd 19:21:19 *** peter1138 has joined #openttd 19:21:19 *** skrzyp has joined #openttd 19:21:19 *** Defaultti has joined #openttd 19:21:19 *** rellig has joined #openttd 19:21:19 *** OsteHovel has joined #openttd 19:21:19 *** kais58 has joined #openttd 19:21:19 *** ^Spike^ has joined #openttd 19:21:19 *** ToBeFree has joined #openttd 19:21:19 *** dlite has joined #openttd 19:21:19 *** jonty-comp has joined #openttd 19:21:19 *** helix.oftc.net sets mode: +oo Alberth peter1138 19:21:34 *** funnel__ has joined #openttd 19:22:10 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Alberth 19:22:10 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v peter1138 19:22:14 *** cosmobird has quit IRC 19:22:34 <Eddi|zuHause> for example the base cost grf could really use that 19:26:22 <andythenorth> maybe parameter setting level 19:26:29 <andythenorth> basic, advanced, expert 19:26:39 <andythenorth> hide or show according to that :P 19:26:45 <Eddi|zuHause> that never worked 19:26:54 <frosch123> what level is required to find the setting? 19:27:24 <Eddi|zuHause> people always look for settings that aren't shown, and fail to find the expert switch 19:27:34 <Eddi|zuHause> and all other people are on expert anyway 19:28:02 * andythenorth always favoured sensible defaults 19:28:06 <andythenorth> Apple style 19:28:10 <andythenorth> but then users 19:28:23 <Eddi|zuHause> (disregarding the vast majority who never change any settings anyway) 19:28:26 <andythenorth> and also Apple have 9,000 hidden settings 19:29:54 <peter1138> under advanced settings 19:34:21 <andythenorth> so I need to add to FIRS: station name parameter; date restriction parameter 19:35:03 <frosch123> do date restrictions exist outside of "extreme"? 19:35:23 <andythenorth> somewhat 19:35:30 <andythenorth> what’s the coast distance parameter for? 19:39:36 *** dlite has quit IRC 19:39:36 *** kais58 has quit IRC 19:39:36 *** OsteHovel has quit IRC 19:39:36 *** rellig has quit IRC 19:39:36 *** skrzyp has quit IRC 19:39:36 *** Alberth has quit IRC 19:39:36 *** APTX has quit IRC 19:39:36 *** keoz has quit IRC 19:39:36 *** btfo has quit IRC 19:39:36 *** Defaultti has quit IRC 19:39:36 *** jonty-comp has quit IRC 19:39:36 *** gelignite has quit IRC 19:39:36 *** Progman has quit IRC 19:39:36 *** ToBeFree has quit IRC 19:39:36 *** ^Spike^ has quit IRC 19:39:36 *** peter1138 has quit IRC 19:39:36 *** TheMask96 has quit IRC 19:39:36 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 19:40:55 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 19:40:55 *** Progman has joined #openttd 19:40:55 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 19:40:55 *** TheMask96 has joined #openttd 19:40:55 *** Alberth has joined #openttd 19:40:55 *** keoz has joined #openttd 19:40:55 *** btfo has joined #openttd 19:40:55 *** APTX has joined #openttd 19:40:55 *** peter1138 has joined #openttd 19:40:55 *** helix.oftc.net sets mode: +ovov Alberth Alberth peter1138 peter1138 19:40:55 *** skrzyp has joined #openttd 19:40:55 *** Defaultti has joined #openttd 19:40:55 *** rellig has joined #openttd 19:40:55 *** OsteHovel has joined #openttd 19:40:55 *** kais58 has joined #openttd 19:40:55 *** ^Spike^ has joined #openttd 19:40:55 *** ToBeFree has joined #openttd 19:40:55 *** dlite has joined #openttd 19:40:55 *** jonty-comp has joined #openttd 19:56:07 *** dlite has quit IRC 19:56:07 *** kais58 has quit IRC 19:56:07 *** OsteHovel has quit IRC 19:56:07 *** rellig has quit IRC 19:56:07 *** skrzyp has quit IRC 19:56:07 *** Alberth has quit IRC 19:56:07 *** APTX has quit IRC 19:56:07 *** keoz has quit IRC 19:56:07 *** btfo has quit IRC 19:56:07 *** Defaultti has quit IRC 19:56:07 *** jonty-comp has quit IRC 19:56:07 *** gelignite has quit IRC 19:56:07 *** Progman has quit IRC 19:56:07 *** ToBeFree has quit IRC 19:56:07 *** ^Spike^ has quit IRC 19:56:07 *** peter1138 has quit IRC 19:56:07 *** TheMask96 has quit IRC 19:56:07 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 19:57:59 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 19:57:59 *** Progman has joined #openttd 19:57:59 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 19:57:59 *** TheMask96 has joined #openttd 19:57:59 *** keoz has joined #openttd 19:57:59 *** btfo has joined #openttd 19:57:59 *** APTX has joined #openttd 19:57:59 *** peter1138 has joined #openttd 19:57:59 *** skrzyp has joined #openttd 19:57:59 *** Defaultti has joined #openttd 19:57:59 *** rellig has joined #openttd 19:57:59 *** OsteHovel has joined #openttd 19:57:59 *** kais58 has joined #openttd 19:57:59 *** ^Spike^ has joined #openttd 19:57:59 *** ToBeFree has joined #openttd 19:57:59 *** dlite has joined #openttd 19:57:59 *** jonty-comp has joined #openttd 19:57:59 *** helix.oftc.net sets mode: +ov peter1138 peter1138 19:58:38 *** gelignite has quit IRC 19:59:10 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 20:10:11 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 20:20:23 *** Hiddenfunstuff has quit IRC 20:34:29 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 20:34:51 *** Supercheese has quit IRC 20:42:50 <andythenorth> such ttd http://www.smartcitiesdive.com/news/new-siemens-venture-aims-to-create-internet-of-trains-in-the-us/441219/ 20:45:42 <andythenorth> also bed 20:45:42 *** andythenorth has left #openttd 20:46:30 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 21:07:51 *** Ox4 has quit IRC 21:34:57 *** Progman has quit IRC 21:54:25 *** gelignite has quit IRC 22:02:03 *** smoke_fumus has quit IRC 22:04:35 *** smoke_fumus has joined #openttd 22:04:48 *** keoz has quit IRC 22:14:16 *** Gja has quit IRC 22:14:40 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 22:14:55 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 22:30:37 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 22:45:49 *** Guest1157 has quit IRC 22:49:13 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 22:49:21 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 23:03:13 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 23:06:36 <quiznilo> anyone know how something like this could happen? http://i.imgur.com/mg0FTCj.png 23:07:00 <quiznilo> I suspect that the trains hit their 180 day maintenance deal on way to surprise 23:07:15 <quiznilo> so they sailed on through the station to the depot 23:07:32 <quiznilo> and now they're just sitting there... trying to get back to surprise station? 23:07:34 <quiznilo> makes no sense 23:07:54 <Wolf01> Try to place depots before stations 23:09:34 <quiznilo> k, I can do that, but there will still be rare edge-cases when a train passes the last depot, hits 180 day maintenance, and sails right on through a station... to get stuck on the other side, strangely 23:10:04 *** Supercheese has joined #openttd 23:21:47 <quiznilo> https://www.up.com/aboutup/reference/glossary/railroad_terms/index.htm 23:28:29 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 has joined #openttd 23:29:01 <supermop> quiznilo play without breakdowns 23:29:12 <supermop> or use explicit depot orders 23:34:26 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 23:35:19 <quiznilo> okay 23:35:45 <supermop> if a train has a depot order somewhere it wont decide to go on it's own 23:36:41 <supermop> if you want to use depot intervals and breakdowns, I guess you could build a loop so that a train that is stuck can return to the station 23:37:24 *** smoke_fumus has quit IRC 23:37:55 <quiznilo> that's an idea 23:45:16 <FLHerne> quiznilo: There's a distance limit for the spontaneous maintenance 23:46:06 <Wolf01> 'night 23:46:08 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 23:46:15 <FLHerne> If a train tries to go to a depot, but there isn't one within a couple of dozen tiles, it'll just carry on as normal 23:47:22 <FLHerne> So 'after stations' is often safe with typical spacing 23:48:01 <FLHerne> Er, 'before stations' 23:48:13 * FLHerne -> sleep, obviously needed 23:48:14 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 23:51:09 <quiznilo> ya thanks guys, I decided to put one in just before the station and funnel trains into it before they can move on to the station 23:51:48 <quiznilo> does YAPF do the pathing? 23:51:53 <quiznilo> for the depots, I mean