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Log for #openttd on 19th June 2017:
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07:05:45  <Wolf01> o/
07:06:08  <__ln___> an early wolf catches the worm
07:06:27  <Wolf01> An early wolf curses the people around him
07:07:20  <crem> \o
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11:58:27  <V453000> yo o_O
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13:28:55  <supermop> yo
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13:40:05  <Alberth> o/
13:44:38  <supermop> hi Alberth
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13:45:32  <supermop> https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/bd/94/ba/bd94baeeb7ec448ede8a1283792341f1.jpg
13:48:27  <Alberth> ice cubes are highly relevant today!
13:56:18  <supermop> less needed is the coal delivery
14:25:12  <supermop> i wish i had researched what interesting old trucks looked like before i drew them
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14:43:43  <supermop> i guess i need to add pictures to get people to download
14:44:08  <supermop> but then i need to roll maps until i get one picturesque enough
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17:45:47  <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r27882 trunk/src/lang/greek.txt (2017-06-19 19:45:37 +0200 )
17:45:48  <DorpsGek> -Update from Eints:
17:45:49  <DorpsGek> greek: 7 changes by kyrm
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17:55:54  <andythenorth> o/
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18:06:33  <supermop> yo andy
18:06:47  <supermop> square tube or round barstock for bench legs
18:06:48  <andythenorth> supermop: google image search streamlined trucks
18:07:01  <andythenorth> what kind of bench?
18:07:21  <supermop> andythenorth: streamlined trucks too hard to draw in ogfx pixel style
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18:07:31  <andythenorth> quak
18:07:39  <supermop> wood casework storage on metal legs
18:07:49  <supermop> upholstered seat cushions
18:08:16  <andythenorth> what floor will it sit, what’s the wall decor?
18:08:28  <supermop> my design was for round stock as a visually thin, soft minimalist juxtaposition to the wood
18:08:39  <andythenorth> if it’s anything other than industrialist, I’d go round
18:08:49  <supermop> but welder wants to do square now as it's obviously cheaper and easier for him
18:08:54  <supermop> yeah
18:09:10  <supermop> square tube bases and legs are ubiquitous these days
18:09:34  <supermop> its on engineered hardwood floor, decor is pretty minimalist
18:09:50  <supermop> though client could really go either way
18:10:07  <supermop> if i put it to her it will be 2 more weeks til we get a decision
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18:10:28  <andythenorth_> I wish my client would stop dropping the connection
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18:11:01  <supermop> she also kind of wants some rustic industrial coat rack in the foyer and im fighting to keep this from becoming too eclectic
18:11:58  <supermop> and fighting my boss who like all millwork to be obnoxiously chunky
18:12:44  <supermop> http://imgur.com/a/Shdho
18:12:47  <supermop> from welder
18:13:09  <supermop> matte black paint on metal, limed white oak for the wood
18:13:41  <supermop> cushion was going to be blush 'millennial' pink but got toned down to grey
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18:18:01  <frosch123> hoi
18:18:06  <supermop> hi frosch123
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18:26:30  <frosch123> https://paste.openttdcoop.org/pix6owfod?/pix6owfod <- dynamically typed languages...
18:27:03  <frosch123> supermop: ^^ that's the reason why you encounter such a stupid error message
18:27:11  <supermop> andythenorth: want to UK translate trucks
18:27:14  <supermop> ?
18:27:18  <andythenorth> supermop: not in the least, sorry :D
18:27:27  <supermop> hmmm
18:27:34  <frosch123> https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1187993#p1187993 <- that one
18:27:39  <andythenorth> I prefer the US translation ;)
18:27:52  <supermop> ok ctrl-H truck - lorry it is
18:28:11  <andythenorth> truck, car, caboose
18:28:22  <supermop> trucks not bogies
18:28:29  * andythenorth doesn’t like rinky-dink little UK english terms for this
18:28:57  <supermop> no little-englander he
18:43:40  <supermop> my welders are harvard GSD grads in redhook - i don't think i can make much money on these
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19:05:20  <andythenorth> spose I should finish FIRS 3 eh?
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19:11:37  <supermop> what needs doing?
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21:17:39  <Execthts> How does autosaving on a dedicated server work? I tried running "./openttd autosave" I saw somewhere, but the subcommand does not exist
21:17:47  <Execthts> I'm trying to put it in a cronjob
21:27:22  <FLHerne> Execthts: Autosave? Set your preferred frequency for `[gui] autosave` in openttd.cfg and run the game
21:27:38  <FLHerne> Triggering the autosave manually would be a contradiction in terms
21:27:55  <FLHerne> If you just mean saving it, look at the admin port
21:28:46  <Execthts> oh
21:28:57  <Execthts> is there a way to rotate autosaves?
21:29:55  <ST2> try rename file to sevasotua.sav - if goes well, rotates 180
21:30:03  <ST2> xD
21:30:05  <Execthts> Brilliant.
21:30:09  <FLHerne> It does that, there are 16 and it overwrites the oldest
21:31:44  <FLHerne> (tricky bit might be to have it automatically load the most recent autosave on recovery)
21:32:18  <Execthts> I see that by default monthly autosave is enabled
21:32:58  <Execthts> there was an autosave before my manual one, but that's 3 hours behind, an ingame month isn't 3 hours irl, right?
21:33:16  <Execthts> also it's not rotated, only a single 'autosave' file is there
21:33:30  <glx_> depends if it pauses when no clients
21:33:40  <Execthts> It does.
21:33:41  <Eddi|zuHause> maybe you have weird settings
21:33:51  <glx_> autosave don't happen when paused
21:33:53  <FLHerne> Hm, I have autosave0.sav through 15
21:33:55  <Eddi|zuHause> there might be a setting how many autosaves to keep
21:33:56  <Execthts> We were playing at the time
21:34:07  <FLHerne> I think that's the default behaviour
21:34:37  <FLHerne> You're looking under saves/autosave/, right?
21:34:53  <Execthts> 'keep_all_autosave = true' is needed for 'max_num_autosaves = 16'?
21:35:41  <FLHerne> "This setting will make OpenTTD ignore max_autosave_num"
21:35:44  <FLHerne> Yes, apparently
21:35:53  <FLHerne> (never heard of that setting before)
21:36:34  <Execthts> wha
21:36:46  <Execthts> In https://wiki.openttd.org/Openttd.cfg: 'max_num_autosaves = [true | false]'
21:36:58  <Execthts> Default value in openttd.cfg for me: 'max_num_autosaves = 16'
21:37:16  <FLHerne> Yay, wiki
21:38:05  <FLHerne> Hm, `keep_all_autosave = false` here
21:38:15  <FLHerne> But I definitely have rotating autosaves
21:38:26  <Execthts> Running dedicated?
21:38:29  <FLHerne> Someone™ should improve the wiki for these things :P
21:38:42  <FLHerne> No
21:38:50  <FLHerne> At least not recently
21:39:00  <FLHerne> But it really shouldn't make a difference...
21:39:06  <Execthts> I'm not sure that the [gui] part works for dedicated too
21:40:26  <Eddi|zuHause> "keep_all_autosaves" means infinite
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21:40:38  <FLHerne> Ah
21:40:56  <Execthts> Then with that being 'false', why doesn't the 'max_num_autosaves' work?
21:40:57  <FLHerne> So it ignores max_num in the opposite direction
21:41:38  <Eddi|zuHause> there were some debug settings that mess with autosaves
21:45:43  <Execthts> oh damn
21:46:12  <Execthts> actually, the setting does work. The autosave 'file' was a folder.
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22:03:44  <FLHerne> :D
22:04:30  <FLHerne> Your shell probably has an option to add the trailing / to directory names, you should enable it if it isn't already
22:04:58  <Alkel_U3> having output of ls colored might come handy, too :-)
22:07:54  <Execthts> The user dedicated for openttd didn't have a .bashrc, so the 'll' I'm used to doesn't work and I'm lazy to copy it over
22:08:12  <Execthts> btw, in what order the autosaveX.sav are overwritten?
22:08:50  <Execthts> I'm not sure that https://i.imgur.com/JKMjjAh.png these write times are right
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22:20:31  <Eddi|zuHause> what's wrong with those?
22:21:37  <Execthts> nvm, renaming a file probably doesn't generate a new write time
22:21:39  <Eddi|zuHause> it always overwrites the oldest one, so next would be 5, then 6, then 7, ...
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22:22:08  <Eddi|zuHause> it doesn't rename
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