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05:00:38 <quiznilo> and not me 05:03:35 <stupidkiller> who i need to looking for ? 05:07:40 *** stupidkiller has quit IRC 05:20:16 <quiznilo> I don't know heh 06:39:37 *** chomwitt has joined #openttd 07:17:20 *** Hiddenfunstuff has joined #openttd 08:17:33 *** Biolunar has joined #openttd 08:23:58 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 08:45:18 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 08:58:16 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 09:09:38 *** smoke_fumus has joined #openttd 09:10:19 *** smoke_fumus has quit IRC 10:10:49 *** Flygon_ has joined #openttd 10:17:32 *** Flygon has quit IRC 10:22:30 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 10:27:32 *** Flygon_ has quit IRC 10:32:10 *** DDR has quit IRC 11:02:19 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 11:17:49 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 11:20:19 <Wolf01> o/ 11:21:32 <crem> \o 11:22:01 <__ln__> o 11:22:02 <__ln__> / 11:31:52 *** TheMask96 has quit IRC 11:36:20 *** TheMask96 has joined #openttd 11:39:15 <planetmaker> \o 11:44:19 <peter1138> innit 12:23:07 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 12:23:27 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 12:27:24 <Wolf01> Mmmh, I think today is not the right day to play diablo 3 12:30:07 <Wolf01> I can't understand how I can have 4s lag with my ISP 12:32:57 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 12:41:31 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 12:41:34 <Alkel_U3> you may as well just use IPoAC with these latencies 12:41:52 <Wolf01> IPoPigeons 13:39:00 <supermop> yo 13:39:24 <supermop> accidentally made road trains carry like 300+ tons 13:43:59 <supermop> hmm no dala horse gifs 13:50:35 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 13:52:59 <supermop> so in latest version of my grf i had trouble bumping up against the maximum running cost factor 14:23:32 *** Biolunar has quit IRC 14:28:59 *** Alberth has joined #openttd 14:28:59 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Alberth 14:29:11 <Alberth> o/ 14:29:57 <Wolf01> o/ 14:33:02 <crem> o/ 14:33:39 <supermop> yo 14:36:59 *** trainman1432 has joined #openttd 14:37:04 <trainman1432> hoi 14:39:30 <trainman1432> sandwich 14:39:42 <Alberth> /me takes sandwich 14:45:21 <supermop> cant tell why these roadtrain capacities are so high 14:45:40 <Alberth> unlimited height 14:46:19 <Alberth> also, how long are those things? 14:46:29 <supermop> 3 trailers 14:46:34 <supermop> about two tiles 14:46:53 <Alberth> hmm, not nearly anything close to a train length, thus 14:47:15 <Alberth> must be the compression algorithm then 14:47:20 <supermop> should be a bit less than 3 times a regular semi truck in capacity, but they are carrying way more 14:48:35 <Alberth> someone felt they weren't good competition for regular trains :p 14:51:52 <supermop> switch (FEAT_ROADVEHS, SELF, switch_capacity_h1_box, build_year ) { 0..5000000: ((param_capacity*20)*3)/4 14:52:16 <supermop> switch (FEAT_ROADVEHS, SELF, switch_capacity_c1_box, build_year ) { 0..5000000: ((param_capacity*20)/4) 14:52:28 <supermop> h1 should be 3x c1, right? 14:55:55 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 14:56:21 <Alberth> it's a label that points to the switch, so each should be uniq 14:56:30 <supermop> instead im getting like more than 5x 14:57:14 <Alberth> you mean x*20*3 / 4 ? 14:57:20 <Alberth> @calc 600/4 14:57:20 <DorpsGek> Alberth: 150 14:57:38 <supermop> for example, a c2 mineral truck carries 38 tons, h2 mineral road train carries 204 14:57:43 <Alberth> hmm, right, 20/4 is already 5 :p 14:58:24 <Alberth> isn't there a unit definition as well? 14:58:27 <supermop> maybe i am messing some order of operations thing up 14:58:43 <Alberth> ie 1 unit in openttd is xx,xxx l stuff 14:59:26 <supermop> the capacity switches are the same for both road train and semi except for that *3 15:00:49 <Alberth> how many bits is the value? *600 doesn't even closely fit in 8 bit, for example 15:01:38 <Alberth> don't know the precision used for these calculations however 15:02:27 <Alberth> *20 / 4 == * 5 15:02:41 <Alberth> so *5 * 3 should do the same thing 15:03:19 <Alberth> @calc 256/15 15:03:19 <DorpsGek> Alberth: 17.0666666667 15:03:56 <Alberth> anything larger than capacity=17 overflows in 8 bit 15:04:35 <Alberth> @calc 32767/15 15:04:35 <DorpsGek> Alberth: 2184.46666667 15:04:37 <supermop> maybe i should rework the way these switches work, but as is, the big number given is the 'vanilla' capacity a truck or trailer would have if param_capacity is set to the default value 15:04:41 <supermop> which is 2 15:05:53 <Alberth> perhaps check what happens if you hardcode it to 1 unit, do you get 1t cargo then? 15:06:03 <supermop> the /4 is so that in the case of a two part RV like a semi-truck, 2 /4 * 20 * (2 parts) = 20 t for a semi truck with one trailer 15:06:55 <supermop> the road train is 4 parts, 3 of which should carry cargo 15:07:20 <supermop> so i need 3*20 hmm 15:07:50 *** Gja has joined #openttd 15:07:57 <supermop> 2 / 4 *3 *4 = 6 oops 15:08:03 <supermop> ok i am dumb 15:08:35 <Alberth> just copy the formula into the compiler :) 15:09:01 <Alberth> 24*60 is much more clear than 1440 :) 15:09:23 <supermop> ctrl H *3)/4 -> *3)/8 would fix it 15:09:58 <Alberth> problem solved 15:10:23 <supermop> instead of using the parameter value as a coefficient, maybe i should instead have switch select from a few capacities based on parament 15:10:27 <supermop> parameter 15:12:40 <supermop> hopefully no one fell in love with 200 t trucks with only 200hp 15:18:48 <supermop> pretty happy with my early truck graphics 15:19:51 *** Cubey has joined #openttd 15:20:29 <Alberth> they can always just stick with the current newgrf :) 15:25:51 *** Flygon has quit IRC 15:28:38 <supermop> ok also forgot the switch that prevents trailers from making smoke 15:29:46 <supermop> what else can i add to this grf to procrastinate drawing trams 15:32:36 <supermop> 'refrigerated road train' seems stupid 15:34:03 *** smoke_fumus has joined #openttd 15:38:46 *** trainman1432 has quit IRC 15:47:23 *** Progman has joined #openttd 15:49:36 *** TheMask96 has quit IRC 15:54:02 *** TheMask96 has joined #openttd 15:54:10 *** Gja has quit IRC 15:55:15 *** Gja has joined #openttd 16:21:32 *** chomwitt has quit IRC 16:28:29 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 16:30:10 <frosch123> Wolf01: yet another canal mail 16:30:16 <Wolf01> :D 16:31:46 <Wolf01> I really broke the interwebz with that announce 16:34:34 <V453000> wot 16:36:14 <Wolf01> The april fool 16:37:13 <V453000> it's end of June? :D 16:37:46 <Wolf01> Yes, but... somebody didn't get the joke XD 16:40:12 <Alberth> o/ 16:44:27 <frosch123> hoi 16:44:45 <frosch123> i have no idea why people read the april news 16:44:59 <frosch123> it was my main reason to write a post for rc1 16:45:11 <frosch123> just to get the april one away from the top 16:46:15 <Wolf01> Put a disclaimer, red, 54pts, uppercase, comic s... no that would be bad: "WE WON'T REMOVE CANALS, IT WAS AN APRIL FOOL" 16:46:48 *** glx has joined #openttd 16:46:48 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 16:51:40 *** Gja has quit IRC 16:51:57 *** Gja has joined #openttd 16:52:41 <Wolf01> Or tell them we are planning to remove roads... 16:53:00 <Wolf01> Just to replace them with more roads 16:58:28 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 17:00:28 <Alberth> replace them with not roads 17:13:03 <supermop> i think you should actually remove them now 17:26:42 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 17:36:27 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 17:41:54 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 17:41:59 <Wolf01> o/ 17:42:05 <andythenorth> hi 17:43:53 <supermop> YO 17:44:41 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 17:51:10 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 17:53:20 *** tokai has joined #openttd 17:53:21 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 17:56:53 <andythenorth> isn’t it 18:00:14 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC 18:05:23 *** Gja has quit IRC 18:26:50 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 18:33:22 *** Gja has joined #openttd 18:47:57 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 18:54:08 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 19:03:56 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 19:06:52 <andythenorth> such game 19:06:56 * andythenorth has been busy 19:07:01 <andythenorth> not pixels 19:12:32 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 19:17:03 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 19:29:10 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Alberth 19:29:10 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge 19:29:10 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Terkhen 19:29:10 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v peter1138 19:29:10 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v planetmaker 19:42:02 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v orudge 19:45:27 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 19:50:34 *** Stimrol has joined #openttd 20:01:11 *** Alberth has left #openttd 20:01:26 *** mindlesstux has quit IRC 20:01:27 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 20:02:25 *** mindlesstux has joined #openttd 20:09:28 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 20:09:57 *** Stimrol has quit IRC 20:19:16 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 20:22:35 <supermop> its andy again 20:25:11 <andythenorth> laptop keeps losing connection 20:25:15 * andythenorth bored of technology 20:26:18 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 20:27:11 * supermop bored of fixing trucks 20:27:27 * Wolf01 bored of being bored 20:28:13 <andythenorth> meta 20:28:16 <andythenorth> you win 20:30:25 <supermop> im going to add a switch so HP increments a bit by build year 20:30:41 <supermop> then you dont ever need multiple generations of truck 20:30:58 <supermop> just one truck that gets better every 5 years or whatever 20:32:36 <supermop> power = some base hp + (Build year - introduction year) 20:34:23 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 20:40:49 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 20:42:16 <Wolf01> Isn't it a bit confusing? 20:42:36 <frosch123> did you ever look at hp when buying a truck? 20:42:41 <Wolf01> Nah 20:43:55 <Wolf01> Mmmh, I need more steel 20:44:07 <frosch123> i need more copper 20:44:43 <frosch123> resp, more stations, 48 stack unloaders are not enough 20:44:47 <Wolf01> I have enough of that, but 12 furnaces for steel can't keep up 20:44:53 <supermop> Wolf01: its a small amount 20:45:12 <supermop> and is better than having more frequent generations 20:45:48 <Wolf01> Yes, it helps 20:45:59 <supermop> its not that weird to go buy a 2010 punto or what ever, and then buy a 2015 later that has maybe 5-10 more hp 20:46:56 <supermop> not so big they advertise it, but maybe whatever they used to save fuel got a little better and doesn't rob as much hp anymore 20:47:20 <supermop> or maybe the truck is a VW and they reprogrammed the engine to cheat 20:47:44 <Wolf01> Like it's the only brand to do that :P 20:47:54 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 20:48:17 <supermop> Mop brand trucks will do it from 1910 onward 20:48:35 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 20:59:55 *** Compu has quit IRC 21:05:10 *** Compu has joined #openttd 21:08:36 *** Gja has quit IRC 21:29:17 *** smoke_fumus has quit IRC 21:35:24 *** Hiddenfunstuff has quit IRC 21:36:40 *** Gja has joined #openttd 21:46:41 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 21:51:07 *** gelignite has quit IRC 21:58:52 *** chomwitt has joined #openttd 22:01:05 *** Long_yanG has joined #openttd 22:03:39 *** LongyanG has quit IRC 22:04:31 *** Progman has quit IRC 22:09:56 *** Wolf03 has joined #openttd 22:09:56 *** Wolf01 is now known as Guest11 22:09:56 *** Wolf03 is now known as Wolf01 22:10:51 *** Guest11 has quit IRC 22:18:48 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 22:24:03 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 22:36:45 <supermop> ok yet another version posted to forums 22:38:01 *** DDR has joined #openttd 23:35:12 *** Gja has quit IRC