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Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fish... 09:15:26 *** fishbot is now known as Alkel_U3 09:29:05 *** rellig has joined #openttd 09:57:39 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 10:04:23 *** Gja has joined #openttd 10:14:00 *** mescalito has joined #openttd 10:15:45 *** tokai has joined #openttd 10:15:45 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 10:49:29 <peter1138> no, just moo 11:25:46 <LordAro> oom 11:27:59 <peter1138> NO 11:28:00 <peter1138> just moo 11:31:21 <LordAro> maybe moo 11:31:34 <Wolf01> Holy cow... 11:40:28 *** eekee has joined #openttd 11:45:26 *** eekee1 has quit IRC 11:58:01 * Wolf01 summons andythenorth 11:58:25 <Wolf01> Now just wait... 12:00:37 <Arveen> .oOo. tumbleweed .oOo. 12:01:16 <__ln__> just as fascinating as depositing 1 pound in your account, and just waiting for it to grow to 1 million due to interest 12:02:11 <Wolf01> Best I can do is 25 cents 12:02:51 <__ln__> the pound is not divided into cents :/ 12:03:40 <Wolf01> https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=75637&p=1189898#p1189898 too harsh? 12:04:42 *** UncleCJ has quit IRC 12:04:47 *** cute[m] has quit IRC 12:11:42 *** Guest918 has quit IRC 12:16:13 *** ToBeFree has joined #openttd 12:18:27 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 12:31:36 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttd 12:31:44 <andythenorth_> Wolf01 12:32:01 <Wolf01> See ^ 12:32:03 <Wolf01> :D 12:32:04 <__ln__> yes, it worked 12:32:05 <andythenorth_> Works 12:32:07 <Wolf01> Hi :D 12:32:12 <Wolf01> Proposal: how to solve the dispute on mixed catenary for NRT -> don't give a fuck and let grf devlolopers handle it by displaying catenaries for road and tramway in a different way, also don't give a fuck if different grfs don't merge perfectly 12:32:15 <andythenorth_> such map bits 12:33:01 <andythenorth_> we let people mix trains from different grfs, right? 12:33:18 <andythenorth_> although that was drama :p 12:33:32 <andythenorth_> enginepool caused sky to fall 12:33:54 <Wolf01> Yes we do, even when trains from one grf are factor 10 or 100 more expensive 12:34:13 <andythenorth_> I am +1 to not giaf 12:34:30 <Wolf01> I once had wagons way more expensive than engines, but it was totally my fault 12:35:00 <andythenorth_> I am just waiting to see if frosch123 takes the groundtypes idea further 12:35:27 <andythenorth_> With that idea, a tile can only have content from 1 grf on it 12:35:38 <andythenorth_> so catenary question disappears 12:46:01 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 12:47:46 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 12:50:47 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttd 12:51:07 <andythenorth_> Flakey connection, bbl 12:55:42 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 13:02:06 *** JacobD88 has joined #openttd 13:12:30 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttd 13:16:25 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 13:28:32 *** JacobD88 has quit IRC 13:34:27 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 13:52:25 *** Flygon has quit IRC 13:54:39 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 13:58:39 *** supermop_ has joined #openttd 14:19:39 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttd 14:19:52 *** Gja has joined #openttd 14:33:45 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 14:49:01 *** JacobD88 has joined #openttd 14:51:20 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 14:57:06 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttd 15:05:07 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 15:22:03 *** Alberth has joined #openttd 15:22:03 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Alberth 15:24:11 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttd 15:25:20 <andythenorth_> why railcars? 15:25:49 <andythenorth_> Other than TTD temperate has them by default 15:27:55 <Alberth> looks fast :p 15:28:08 <Alberth> or modern 15:28:53 <Alberth> are you considering maglev steam train? 15:29:14 <FLHerne> Should just levitate by steam pressure 15:29:24 <Alberth> hmm, monorail steam train could work 15:29:52 <Alberth> steamlev train :) 15:32:04 <andythenorth_> steamlev 15:32:07 <andythenorth_> Winner 15:32:38 <andythenorth_> railcar is 0.5 of a tile 15:32:52 <andythenorth_> problem when making a v2 grf 15:33:05 <andythenorth_> not knowing what to leave untouched :p 15:33:26 <andythenorth_> railcars are probably fine :x 15:33:50 <andythenorth_> just unsatisfactory for some reason in game 15:34:13 <andythenorth_> IH has two currently 15:34:14 <Alberth> they transport passengers 15:34:28 <andythenorth_> also refittable to express freight 15:36:10 <Alberth> ah, for those important steel deliveries 15:45:44 *** Gja has quit IRC 15:53:00 <Alkel_U3> I know it's sort of an edge case but I use railcars and such low-capacity trains rather frequently playing with big daylength and house negrfs like TaI (well, just TaI, I don't know about any like it) 15:54:14 <andythenorth_> which train grf? 15:56:13 <Wolf01> Is NRT? 15:56:17 <Alberth> I rarely run into railcars tbh, I usually play until 1960 or so 15:57:06 <andythenorth_> Wolf01: commits? o_O 15:57:41 <andythenorth_> Alberth: what start date? 15:57:42 <Wolf01> Nope, I only sync'ed the branch with the fix 15:57:52 <Alberth> 1920-ish 15:58:08 <Alberth> earlier if I use IH 15:58:21 <Alberth> 1870-ish then 15:59:17 <Alberth> I did play a game with maglev some time ago, very different! distance is non-relevant :) 15:59:53 <peter1138> minecraft needs maglev 16:00:40 *** UncleCJ has joined #openttd 16:00:47 <FLHerne> Hm 16:00:52 * andythenorth_ needs a phablet 16:01:07 <andythenorth_> This pocket sized phone is getting tedious 16:01:15 <FLHerne> I usually start using DMUs on branch lines, but they tend to run out of capacity quite fast 16:01:23 <Wolf01> https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=75868 uhm... I would like this on the compile farm 16:02:32 <andythenorth_> FLHerne: build a longer train of them? o_O 16:04:03 <FLHerne> Starts to look a bit silly 16:04:11 <FLHerne> I'll go up to 6 cars or so 16:04:19 <FLHerne> Town-cargo multiplier patch helps 16:06:40 *** Progman has joined #openttd 16:08:10 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 16:13:58 <Wolf01> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xi3xcNlSRT0 also... 16:17:01 *** TheMask96 has quit IRC 16:18:52 *** synchris has joined #openttd 16:19:17 *** cute[m] has joined #openttd 16:20:47 *** TheMask96 has joined #openttd 16:24:02 *** JacobD88 has quit IRC 16:27:00 *** Gja has joined #openttd 16:29:47 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttd 16:37:47 <andythenorth_> ach realism 16:45:52 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 16:47:06 *** glx has joined #openttd 16:47:06 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 16:50:22 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttd 16:53:31 *** Cybertinus has quit IRC 16:55:05 *** Cybertinus has joined #openttd 16:57:27 *** supermop_home has joined #openttd 16:58:23 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 17:03:42 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 17:05:30 *** supermop_home has quit IRC 17:10:38 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttd 17:11:15 <andythenorth_> game physics vs. reality 17:12:10 <andythenorth_> irl low-speed freight engines don't need high hp compared to express engines 17:13:06 <Alkel_U3> andythenorth_: used to be NARS and UKRS (the latest versions) and pineapple. I haven't played with Iron Horse too extensively, yet. Well, when we're talking railcars, that includes light DMUs and such, right? 17:13:29 <andythenorth_> but in ottd a high-hp pax engine will be better choice for freight 17:13:47 <Alkel_U3> meh, I had to hold it in the input field for an hour :P 17:14:06 <andythenorth_> so I have to OP freight engines by about 50% compared to rl 17:14:25 <andythenorth_> Alkel_U3 :) 17:14:51 <andythenorth_> I can't make profit with NARS 2 railcars much 17:15:04 <Alkel_U3> freight engines tend to have bigger TE - unless you run all-flat network, they're noticable 17:15:31 <andythenorth_> I ran tests last year or so :p 17:15:48 <Alkel_U3> Wolf01: http://mashinky.com/ 17:15:51 <Alberth> add freight multiplier :) 17:16:27 <Wolf01> I know that, I'm following it 17:16:40 <andythenorth_> it's only a problem on long routes with wagon speed limits off 17:17:04 <andythenorth_> frosch made a good case to just OP the freight engines 17:17:07 <Alkel_U3> I used to play with multiplier 5 and slopes 6% but than I stopped being a masochist 17:18:46 <Alberth> it's only about adding more steam engines! 17:19:08 <Alberth> 1 engine for every 2 wagons, good ratio, eh? 17:19:38 *** Maraxus has joined #openttd 17:20:03 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 17:20:08 *** Gja has quit IRC 17:25:23 *** Gja has joined #openttd 17:34:14 *** sim-al2 is now known as Guest1239 17:34:18 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 17:37:47 <Alkel_U3> like I said, stopped being a masochist :P 17:38:34 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 17:40:15 *** Guest1239 has quit IRC 17:40:24 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 17:46:00 *** supermop_home has joined #openttd 17:53:31 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttd 18:09:47 <andythenorth_> 1st and 2nd class coaches? o_O 18:10:17 <frosch123> open wagon 3rd 18:10:24 *** supermop_home has quit IRC 18:10:57 <frosch123> just allow refitting the livestock van to human 18:11:05 * andythenorth_ is actually adding express/commuter coaches 18:11:15 <andythenorth_> makes gameplay sense 18:11:20 <Alberth> yeah, I was wondering why :) 18:11:34 <andythenorth_> similar to RH 18:11:59 <supermop_> IH load speed was always too slow for local coaches 18:12:18 <andythenorth_> yeah 18:12:24 <supermop_> once had to have a train of a vulcan pulling rake of slammers 18:12:41 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 18:12:50 <andythenorth_> suburban trains > many more doors 18:13:37 *** Gja has quit IRC 18:15:31 <supermop_> i wonder how fast you could pull a mk1 dmu behind an express locomotive before it rattles apart 18:17:41 <supermop_> 43-158-158-158-158-158-43 18:26:58 <Rubidium> depends on the quality of the track 18:29:01 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 18:29:09 <sim-al2> output side of the transmission will probably be the first to go 18:46:07 *** supermop has joined #openttd 18:49:57 *** Gja has joined #openttd 18:54:10 *** supermop has quit IRC 19:02:59 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 19:06:37 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttd 19:10:39 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 19:19:56 <eekee> i play with NUTS mostly. i love the local class trains, they load so fast! 19:20:47 *** Cybertinus has quit IRC 19:53:10 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttd 19:53:45 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 19:59:45 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 19:59:53 *** synchris has quit IRC 20:36:55 *** Alberth has left #openttd 20:45:39 *** Maraxus has quit IRC 20:47:00 *** gelignite has quit IRC 21:06:08 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttd 21:08:25 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 21:16:02 *** Gja has quit IRC 21:24:47 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 21:38:00 *** Progman has quit IRC 21:51:22 *** Cubey has joined #openttd 22:17:07 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 22:26:02 *** mescalito has quit IRC 22:48:58 *** dark_pingus has quit IRC 22:52:33 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 22:53:31 *** Celestar has quit IRC 23:06:06 *** cHawk has joined #openttd 23:07:21 *** Celestar has joined #openttd 23:20:41 *** ToBeFree_ has joined #openttd 23:20:41 *** ToBeFree is now known as Guest1264 23:20:41 *** ToBeFree_ is now known as ToBeFree