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Log for #openttd on 6th September 2017:
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06:13:21  <andythenorth> o/
06:14:05  <V453000> yo
06:14:34  <andythenorth> it’s morning as AF again
06:14:50  <andythenorth> this seems to happen every fricking day
06:15:40  <V453000> :D
06:15:45  <V453000> me is working afternoon today
06:15:53  <V453000> so geometrees right now
06:18:02  * andythenorth should FIRS or something
06:18:08  <andythenorth> nagh
06:18:42  <V453000> I'm considering if I actually really want to do the tropic trees before the release
06:18:49  <V453000> because it's another shitload
06:19:27  <andythenorth> is 0.x release?
06:19:48  <V453000> is
06:19:59  <andythenorth> no tropic
06:20:15  <V453000> we'll see
06:20:25  <V453000> if I manage to finish temperate today including materials, then there is chance
06:20:50  <V453000> the idea of not having to revisit trees is very appealing
06:20:58  <V453000> but at the same time it's just bonkers much
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09:49:50  <andythenorth> cat
10:38:25  <peter1138> well
10:40:09  <andythenorth> rope
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11:00:47  <V453000> rendering temperate trees ´D
11:00:49  <V453000> =D
11:00:50  <V453000> gg
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11:27:07  <Wolf01> o/
11:28:07  <crem> \o
11:29:08  <Wolf01> Also coffee
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14:12:17  <Alberth> o/
14:12:35  <Wolf01> o/
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14:13:43  <andythenorth> lo
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14:18:30  <Cadadadry> hello, world
14:18:42  <Alberth> world is here? :O
14:19:14  <Cadadadry> two neurones of it : you and me...
14:19:59  <Cadadadry> btw where can I DL Road hog ?
14:22:10  <Cadadadry> How nice, TS3 is working OK...  How bad, nobody ever showing up...
14:22:14  <Alberth> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/road-hog/releases/  or http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/road-hog/nightlies/  depending hot close to the edge you want to be
14:22:27  <Alberth> *how
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14:23:50  <andythenorth> Cadadadry: or bananas
14:24:14  <Alberth> good point andy
14:24:20  <Cadadadry> thx for the link - I wish the most stable release, I guess it's 1.2.0 ?..
14:25:40  <Cadadadry> andy : what do you mean by bananas ???
14:25:51  <Alberth> in-game content download
14:26:00  <Cadadadry> ah ok
14:26:34  <Cadadadry> stupid question I guess, can I add new content to an already started game ?
14:26:42  <Alberth> not
14:26:48  <Cadadadry> not stupid ?
14:26:54  <Cadadadry> ;) ^^
14:27:01  <Alberth> not add new content
14:27:16  <Cadadadry> ok ok I'll give it a try next game, it looks gorgeous :)
14:27:51  <Alberth> yep, although I typically only use the trams
14:28:19  <Cadadadry> what's the command to whisper pls ?
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14:28:41  <Cadadadry> I tried several but no result..
14:29:03  <Alberth> don't know what that means
14:29:14  <Alberth> there is   /me does stuff
14:29:31  * Cadadadry scratching his head
14:30:28  <Cadadadry> it's been ages since I used iirc...
14:31:18  <Cadadadry> mumble and TS are so convenient when needing help..
14:31:37  <Wolf01> You can have provate chats on irc
14:31:41  <Wolf01> *private
14:31:50  <Cadadadry> yes, what's the command pls ?
14:31:53  <Wolf01> But here you might need to be registered
14:32:14  <Alberth> Cadadadry:  try   /help
14:32:20  <Wolf01> /query nick usually
14:32:52  <Cadadadry> already tryied /help, /whisper, /w : none working
14:32:59  <Alkel_U3> or /msg nick message to send directly without the query window
14:33:14  <andythenorth> using /msg can be annoying :)
14:33:30  * andythenorth is firmly against DMs except when already talking to someone and need to back-channel :P
14:33:31  <Alkel_U3> or /notice nick message
14:33:39  <Wolf01> Also querying is annoying
14:34:38  <Alkel_U3> true, if you don't need direct one-on-one conversation, it's better to leave it in the open where more people can contribute their wisdom
14:35:23  <Cadadadry> what is CTCP ?
14:35:42  <Alberth> search for "irc ctcp"  ?  :)
14:35:57  <Alkel_U3> client to client protocol. I was wandering what client you're using
14:36:10  <Alkel_U3> s/wa/wo/
14:36:59  <Cadadadry> I'm on Firefox
14:37:11  <Wolf01> Webchat
14:37:40  <Cadadadry> I admit I don't know, it's been automatically installed or triggered by FF
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14:39:41  <Cadadadry> This one : qwebirc v0.92 (?)
14:40:20  <Alkel_U3> yes, webchat
14:41:12  <Cadadadry> It's not visible in my FF addons, must be build-in...
14:41:56  <Alkel_U3> it's a web application, all server-side, your browser isn't getting any irc
14:42:27  <Cadadadry> ah ok, cool stuff :)
14:42:58  * Cadadadry smoke break 5 min.
14:43:00  <Alkel_U3> IIRC only old Opera among big browsers had a built-in IRC client
14:43:28  <Alkel_U3> a good one, I leked it
14:43:31  <Alkel_U3> *liked
14:43:57  <Wolf01> I used the thunderbird one, but meh
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14:49:23  <Cadadadry> Alkel, did I answer your request ?
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14:51:55  <Alkel_U3> Cadadadry: if you mean telling me what client you're on there was no need, I asked your client directly - hence the ctcp request you received :-)
14:52:28  <Cadadadry> ok Alkel, I get it now ;)
14:53:40  <Cadadadry> anybody for a coop game ?
14:54:17  <Cadadadry> pls don't wait until I'm 53...
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14:55:24  <Alkel_U3> I'm just gonna play a quick 'get home from work to get beer' game
14:55:25  <Cadadadry> Here is a deal : I coach you on WoT, you coach me on openTTD
14:55:48  <Cadadadry> (WoT = World of Tanks)
14:56:21  <Cadadadry> >Alkel_U3 I understand
14:57:30  <Alberth> most regulars here hardly play the game
14:58:16  <Cadadadry> wondering if there is any player still using TS or playing coop...
14:58:54  <Alberth> tried the coop server?
14:59:20  <Cadadadry> on TS3 ? yes I'm in
14:59:38  <Cadadadry> nobody showed up for at least 3 days
15:00:16  <Cadadadry> I don't know any other way, and wiki doesn't tell
15:01:35  <Cadadadry> On wiki the link for french community is out of action...
15:02:28  <Cadadadry> and about banana, I'm lost, dunno what to choose
15:02:43  <Alberth> don't know what TS3 is, but I mean this one : https://www.openttd.org/en/server/75624
15:03:07  <Alberth> ie public openttdcoop
15:03:40  <Cadadadry> thx, I didn't know that one
15:05:49  <Cadadadry> TS3 = Teamspeak3, voicechat server to use with a mike
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15:06:53  <Cadadadry> I see content to DL on coop server, but I don't see who's connected, how do I know ?
15:07:31  <Cadadadry> oh I see : 0 / 255 spectators :/
15:07:33  <Alberth> my server page said   Clients:0 / 255 (1 / 1 companies; 0 / 255 spectators)
15:07:48  <Alberth> but that changes in time
15:07:50  <Cadadadry> yeah, same proble as TS3
15:08:12  <Alberth> for europe, you are just before dinner time
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15:08:21  <Alberth> in the middle of the week
15:08:30  <Alberth> quite bad time for playing a game
15:08:35  <Cadadadry> it's 5 1/4 pm here
15:08:52  <Cadadadry> but yes I guess it's a bit late in the day
15:09:08  <Cadadadry> however, what would you do to find a coop player ?
15:09:28  <Cadadadry> actually I mean a coaching coop player
15:10:48  <peter1138> early rather than late
15:11:02  <peter1138> wonder if the ts is still used
15:11:13  <peter1138> lots of people switching to that other thing these days
15:11:20  <peter1138> discord?
15:11:20  <Alberth> why don't you post and ask at the forum?
15:11:24  <Cadadadry> TS is still ON, but nobody visiting..
15:11:45  <Cadadadry> I'll try forum as last chance, I find it less direct than here..
15:12:13  <Cadadadry> but ok, I stop bothering you ;)
15:12:28  <Cadadadry> cya folks
15:12:35  <Alberth> the froum has room for a savegame, and lengthy discussions
15:12:49  <peter1138> Cadadadry, well
15:12:50  <Alberth> here you can mostly post images and a direct question only
15:12:55  <peter1138> there's another channel here for coop
15:13:09  <Cadadadry> ah ?
15:13:19  <peter1138> #openttdcoop? or something
15:14:08  <Cadadadry> thx for the info
15:31:33  <andythenorth> http://www.openttdcoop.org/
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15:41:29  <Cadadadry> thx guys for helping, I'm now going on on another channel, cya
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16:25:01  <longrin> is there a newgrf provides rail "dead ends" ? i mean these bumpers at the end of a track.
16:26:46  <andythenorth> several
16:27:04  <glx> I remember a station grf doing that
16:27:08  <andythenorth> https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=29257&p=536529&hilit=Generic+Buffers#p536529
16:27:10  <andythenorth> ISR does it
16:27:14  <andythenorth> DB set probably does it
16:27:27  <andythenorth> CHIPs does it by magic, every dead end station tiles automatically gets buffers
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16:30:39  <V453000> many station grf do it
16:30:44  <V453000> maybe even most of them I'd say
16:40:01  <FLHerne> NewStations ones have the nice feature that they can be grass-only without any platforms
16:40:06  <FLHerne> Good for sidings
16:41:22  <longrin> ok, that term doesn't  came onto my mind. buffers, alright. i think i'wll try generic buffers. i can't find scrennshots from dbset, but it sounds interessting
16:44:44  <Alkel_U3> DB set is trains, Andy probably meant NewStations (both from Michael Blunck)
16:45:46  <Alkel_U3> I'd say that newstations are the best pax station set but then again, I'm a bit biased by that being all I had for about 10 years
16:50:51  <andythenorth> Wolf01: need to make new branches for BGT eh?
16:51:01  <Wolf01> Yes
16:51:10  <andythenorth> dunno if they’re based on NRT, or whether we merge NRT patches in
16:51:16  <andythenorth> ottd and nml
16:52:59  <Wolf01> I don't know if it's better to start a new repository only for BGT as the NRT one is really dirty with broken branches and unused ones
16:54:13  <andythenorth> nah, it’s git, doesn’t matter eh
16:54:29  <andythenorth> branches are free
16:54:51  <Wolf01> Also are repos
16:55:53  <andythenorth> true, but meh
16:56:04  <andythenorth> we have repos at work with hundreds of branches
16:57:16  <Wolf01> Yes, but even if NRT and BGT are almost the same thing, there are branches for NRT with features being worked and there will be branches for BGT with other features for BGT only
16:58:53  <Wolf01> BTW, I need to build a Macross Valkyrie with only the parts I have... it will be difficult because I miss a lot of white parts :(
17:04:16  <andythenorth> is it a Transformer?
17:04:26  <Wolf01> Yes
17:05:25  <Wolf01> https://i.pinimg.com/originals/68/7a/8e/687a8ef920de3884cffcc7b9390c35ad.jpg
17:06:16  <andythenorth> nice hand parts
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17:07:43  <Wolf01> I've just finished to renew my old Macross SDF-1, fixed some colours and added a lot of detail, the head/bridge is still too big but I don't have any idea on how to fix it
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17:10:29  <Wolf01> http://imgur.com/a/fStO1
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17:11:42  <Wolf01> https://d2ev13g7cze5ka.cloudfront.net/hsg/hsgmc05_1.jpg?v=1422248373 this is the one I have
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17:24:19  <V453000> omfg I had an if which was checking if a node group in blender exists, and inside of the if I was creating the node group if it doesn't exist .... so of course the script did not run after 1st iteration XD
17:24:31  <V453000> was debugging it for good while before realizing
17:25:24  <peter1138> :D
17:26:30  * andythenorth is bored again
17:26:36  <andythenorth> do something?
17:26:52  <peter1138> I am doing something.
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17:41:03  <NGC3982_> please dont.
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18:12:14  <andythenorth> such https://bugs.openttd.org/task/6620
18:16:57  <frosch123> if it is the sprite font, maybe some chars are provided by openttd.grf and others by some other baseset
18:17:48  <andythenorth> tl;dr andythenorth should fix it? :|
18:18:10  <andythenorth> I have to go look in a lot of fonts?
18:18:14  <frosch123> first need to figure out which baseset :)
18:18:25  <andythenorth> and switch to spanish to repro it
18:18:29  <andythenorth> FFS :)
18:18:36  <andythenorth> frosch123: we need branches for BGT then
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18:18:52  <Wolf01> Quak
18:19:11  <frosch123> i thought some more about some todos, but did not update the spec yet
18:19:21  <andythenorth> work bug count is down to 35
18:19:26  <andythenorth> 95 feature requests
18:19:30  <andythenorth> 100 other backlogged items :P
18:19:39  * andythenorth uses FS as practice for real work
18:20:09  <frosch123> internal or external tracker?
18:20:19  <andythenorth> staff only
18:20:34  <andythenorth> but the 95 feature requests are on behalf of paying customers
18:20:41  <andythenorth> we group them, so there are probably 300 requests thre
18:20:43  <andythenorth> there *
18:22:30  <andythenorth> ~9,000 users
18:24:07  <andythenorth> oh 70 tickets hidden away under ‘not now'
18:24:10  <andythenorth> useful
18:24:26  <andythenorth> they tend to self-close over time by no longer being relevant
18:25:28  <frosch123> so every that involves eu stuff :p
18:26:21  <andythenorth> sadly that will generate more tickets
18:26:54  <andythenorth> the GDPR tickets will get doubled over as Special UK GDPR Post Brexit Special Regime
18:27:36  <andythenorth> by being in the EU I got all the fun of cookie law
18:27:52  <andythenorth> and now by being out of EU, I will get all the fun of dual data protection regimes
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18:29:14  <Eddi|zuHause> even after brexit they will have to follow pretty much all eu laws anyway
18:30:26  <andythenorth> yes but there will be two governance regimes :P
18:30:41  <andythenorth> I’m sure it’s all for the best
18:30:46  <andythenorth> in the best of all possible worlds
18:30:58  <Eddi|zuHause> sure.
18:31:02  <Eddi|zuHause> when did that ever happen :p
18:34:07  <andythenorth> 1848?
18:35:50  <andythenorth> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutions_of_1848
18:35:56  <andythenorth> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chartism#1848_Petition
18:36:05  <Wolf01> Mmmh, I need 10 of one part, which only appears on an exclusive set which is sold on bricklink at ~200€ and only 4 are sold
18:36:32  <Wolf01> Also one is sold at 612€
18:37:28  <andythenorth> change colour scheme :P
18:37:53  <Wolf01> Eh, easy when that's the colour you really need
18:38:09  <Wolf01> Changing it to another colour doesn't make sense
18:40:38  <andythenorth> frosch123: anything I can do to help with BGT?
18:45:15  <frosch123> i think it's too early to do anything meaningulf
18:45:43  <andythenorth> strikes me that having fake example tiles might help
18:46:06  <andythenorth> probably a photoshop job
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19:24:29  * andythenorth should finish FIRS 3 http://www.railpictures.net/photo/542533/
19:25:10  <Alberth> +1
19:27:54  <V453000> YEAH RUSTY WAGONS
19:27:55  <V453000> FUCK YEAH
19:27:57  <V453000> DIRTY
19:30:11  <frosch123> whats' the round thing?
19:31:09  <frosch123> you know, the yeti-hand-bellow thingie
19:34:55  <andythenorth> yes, that’s where the Yetis blow the air into the blast furnace
19:36:46  <frosch123> ah, the engine is remote controlled
19:36:53  <frosch123> i wondered how a yeti would fit inside
19:38:51  <frosch123> isn't it weird to write "remote controlled" on an engine?
19:41:44  <andythenorth> not if you don’t want people phoning the police to report runaways
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20:00:51  <nekomaster> Hello everybody! :)
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21:58:09  <Eddi|zuHause> dangit, stuck again...
21:58:31  <Eddi|zuHause> he says i should take a sip from the bottle, but he doesn't let me fill my bottle from his bottle
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