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00:10:05 *** urdh has joined #openttd 00:16:26 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 00:30:24 *** Mazur has joined #openttd 00:33:02 <Wolf01> 'night 00:33:06 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 00:36:31 *** orudge` has quit IRC 00:36:41 *** tycoondemon has quit IRC 00:37:45 *** tycoondemon has joined #openttd 00:45:17 *** orudge` has joined #openttd 00:45:17 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge` 01:15:06 *** Sheogorath has quit IRC 01:19:29 *** Sheogorath has joined #openttd 01:22:48 *** Biolunar has quit IRC 01:43:15 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 02:03:15 *** Laedek has quit IRC 02:04:11 *** Laedek has joined #openttd 02:46:24 *** glx has quit IRC 03:59:17 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 04:24:14 <znf> Is there any reason I'm seeing my Farms diminish in production? 04:24:22 <znf> They're down to 24 tones, from ~90-something 04:27:39 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 04:57:30 *** Cubey has quit IRC 06:17:26 <Eddi|zuHause> znf: you should keep your station rating above 67% at all times 06:38:24 <V453000> humenz 06:46:41 <LordAro> omg, where? 07:00:26 <V453000> idk, I just heard it somewhere 07:17:17 *** agentthom has quit IRC 07:36:28 *** Gja has joined #openttd 07:40:24 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has joined #openttd 07:45:15 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has quit IRC 07:45:22 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has joined #openttd 07:48:02 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has quit IRC 07:48:14 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has joined #openttd 08:09:57 *** Progman has joined #openttd 08:25:19 *** dp2 has joined #openttd 08:39:27 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has quit IRC 08:39:38 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has joined #openttd 08:41:14 *** chomwitt has joined #openttd 08:57:04 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has quit IRC 09:06:18 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 09:06:59 <Wolf01> Moin 09:07:41 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has joined #openttd 09:32:43 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has quit IRC 09:32:48 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has joined #openttd 09:34:05 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 10:10:10 *** JacobD88 has joined #openttd 10:24:32 *** Gja has joined #openttd 10:25:52 <__ln__> http://store.steampowered.com/app/598960/Mashinky/ 10:27:13 <crem> That link appears at least weekly on this channel! 10:27:24 <crem> Hm.. Maybe we should set up a bot that posts it. 10:27:49 <crem> Ah, it's close! 10:29:03 <__ln__> impossible, i haven't seen the link even once on this channel. 10:31:19 <crem> Ok, that's only the third time that I saw it. 10:31:39 <peter1138> Heh. 10:31:53 <peter1138> Let me know when they add road vehicles, ships and aircraft. 10:32:36 <crem> Do you know that aincient puzzle game called shortline? https://www.old-games.ru/games/pc/shortline/screenshots/1232_492c0ec926d6a.jpg 10:32:49 <crem> It was pretty nice! 10:33:12 <peter1138> Hmm, nope. 10:33:16 <peter1138> Nice EGA resolution. 10:33:34 <peter1138> Pls to be stretching the pixel vertically... 10:35:04 <peter1138> Yeah, looks much better scaled to 640x480. 10:36:45 <Wolf01> crem: http://store.steampowered.com/app/353640/Train_Valley/ 10:36:47 <peter1138> https://www.myabandonware.com/game/shortline-railroad-1i6/play-1i6 10:38:55 <__ln__> also http://www.railjournal.com/index.php/freight/lithuanian-railways-fined-E28m-for-obstructing-competition.html?channel=527 10:39:49 <Wolf01> Lol 10:41:08 <crem> ah, that competition.. I thought about different. Some years ago there was some marathon run, and all roads were closed for traffic. But there was a railway intersection, where the train did some slow maneurs causing everyone to wait. 10:46:56 <Wolf01> I think I found a bug with autoreplace 10:47:10 <peter1138> Never! 10:48:12 <Wolf01> Mmmh, no, it works, but it's confusing 10:49:37 <Wolf01> I really think you should show the autoreplaced vehicle icon only in the list it was set up 10:50:00 <Wolf01> I had to browse the entire group list to stop autoreplacing an old vehicle 10:50:47 <Wolf01> (the greyed out ones) 10:55:09 *** Gja has quit IRC 11:07:18 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 11:09:16 <V453000> crem: I played the fuck out of that game 11:20:10 *** Breckett has joined #openttd 11:29:20 <Wolf01> I think I'll develop road waypoints which could be set on any tile (ramps, crossings, curves) 11:30:12 <Breckett> hi 11:30:20 <Wolf01> Also I'll change the condition to make the oneway road so a player could do it on city owned roads too 11:35:10 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 11:36:09 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 11:44:21 <Breckett> I'm currently doing a small paper on the history of openTTD. All sources I looked at so far simply state that Ludvig Strigeus reverse engineered the original Transport Tycoon Deluxe in 2004. But I can't seem to find a quote by Chris Sawyer on openTTD ... ?? 11:45:07 <peter1138> Why would you expect to find one? 11:45:12 <Wolf01> Chris Sawyer made Transport Tycoon (Deluxe) not OTTD 11:46:01 <peter1138> Also why does this come up every few months? How many "papers" about OpenTTD's "history" are needed? 11:46:48 <Breckett> Wolf01: yes. But it seems odd that one cannot not find a statement by the creator of the original game to the spinoff. 11:47:02 <Breckett> peter1138: it's soooo popular! \o/ ;) 11:47:17 <LordAro> i don't think there's anything public 11:47:29 <Wolf01> peter1138: I think every university needs one 11:47:40 *** Biolunar has joined #openttd 11:48:01 <Wolf01> Also every tech blog/gaming site 11:48:21 <LordAro> several people over the years have been in contact with him (or his lawyers) with the general response of "yes he's aware of it, he doesn't like it, but accepts that there's nothing he can do about it" 11:48:40 <LordAro> (look for some of these secondhand sources yourself, i could be making it up) 11:48:48 <LordAro> Breckett: ^ 11:49:49 <Breckett> LordAro: ok that's a start xD 11:50:28 <LordAro> dig through some ancient parts of tt-forums 11:51:45 <crem> There should be documentary movie about openttd! 11:51:54 <crem> Or better documentary series. 11:53:51 <Wolf01> There's Twitch for that 11:57:05 *** JacobD88 has quit IRC 11:59:13 *** chomwitt has quit IRC 12:50:30 *** Flygon has quit IRC 13:15:23 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 13:28:03 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has quit IRC 13:28:13 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has joined #openttd 13:30:58 *** supermop has joined #openttd 13:33:31 *** Bartje321 has joined #openttd 13:49:19 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 13:49:51 *** Breckett has quit IRC 13:57:45 *** Breckett has joined #openttd 14:02:18 *** Breckett_ has joined #openttd 14:18:03 *** Breckett has quit IRC 14:29:35 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 14:32:47 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has quit IRC 14:33:02 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has joined #openttd 14:33:32 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has quit IRC 14:33:47 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has joined #openttd 14:36:35 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has quit IRC 14:36:50 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has joined #openttd 14:45:03 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has quit IRC 15:02:05 *** Bartje321 has quit IRC 15:23:02 *** tokai|noir has joined #openttd 15:23:03 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai|noir 15:29:57 *** tokai has quit IRC 16:03:33 *** Breckett_ has quit IRC 16:03:34 *** Biolunar has quit IRC 16:23:32 *** ToBeFree has joined #openttd 16:31:56 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has joined #openttd 16:37:53 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has quit IRC 16:38:04 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has joined #openttd 16:39:14 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has joined #openttd 16:53:27 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 16:59:17 *** D-HUND has quit IRC 17:00:06 *** orudge` has quit IRC 17:00:24 *** orudge` has joined #openttd 17:00:24 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge` 17:04:38 *** debdog has joined #openttd 17:06:22 *** Gja has joined #openttd 17:26:17 *** gelignite has quit IRC 17:32:59 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 17:34:41 *** Cubey has joined #openttd 17:38:41 *** glx has joined #openttd 17:38:41 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 18:25:38 *** DDR has joined #openttd 18:26:25 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 18:26:42 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 18:28:56 <andythenorth> o/ 18:29:47 <frosch123> hoi 18:30:06 <V453000> hi humenz 18:30:07 <Wolf01> o/, quak 18:30:18 * andythenorth playing game 18:30:22 <andythenorth> train sprites all over the place 18:30:26 <V453000> XD 18:31:18 *** Montana has joined #openttd 18:32:48 <andythenorth> so wood cars 18:32:50 <andythenorth> yes / no? 18:32:56 <V453000> / why not 18:32:57 <V453000> ? 18:32:59 *** ToBeFree has quit IRC 18:33:03 <andythenorth> seems weird 18:33:17 <andythenorth> Hog has wood trucks, because RL wood trucks are quite unique (and boss) 18:33:31 <andythenorth> Sam has log tug thing because floating logs 18:33:45 <andythenorth> trains…nothing special, just a stake wagon 18:33:59 *** Gja has quit IRC 18:36:00 <andythenorth> ha 2/8 caboose https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRaOv0hl_HxXhY1Ayx6t3kIQ5PNdkhHPIlUdcobXomhVDqufel7lw 18:37:20 <supermop> wood trains nothing special 18:38:02 <andythenorth> probably better to do a stake car 18:38:06 <andythenorth> and refit more stuff 18:38:11 <andythenorth> or something 18:38:32 <frosch123> andythenorth: you can give variety to wood cars by changing the orientation of the logs 18:38:42 <frosch123> along or across 18:38:43 <andythenorth> yes 18:39:07 <andythenorth> variety is fine, I’m just questioning if it’s worth spamming the buy menu with a single-cargo wagon type 18:39:33 <frosch123> no, it's just a refit of the flat van or open wagon 18:40:50 * andythenorth tending to agree 18:41:10 <andythenorth> eh probably all the answers are in here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_railway_wagon_classes 18:41:21 <andythenorth> in the UK we name our wagons after fish :P 18:41:30 <andythenorth> the german system is more...structured 18:43:30 <frosch123> there was a 4th class? never heard of that 18:45:10 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, it was basically "bring your own chair" class 18:45:40 <frosch123> so like today's ice on sundays? 18:45:54 <andythenorth> Klappdeckelwagen eh 18:45:57 <andythenorth> not so much in UK 18:46:10 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe closest to modern bike compartment 18:47:14 <Eddi|zuHause> i mean the areas in modern wagons where you have these seats along the sides, and the middle area is empty 18:47:31 <frosch123> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d2/France_Paris_Champs_Elysees_Wagon_bi_foudres.JPG/1280px-France_Paris_Champs_Elysees_Wagon_bi_foudres.JPG <- clearly you need those for wine and beer 18:47:47 <andythenorth> edibles tank wagon 18:49:29 <frosch123> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/45/Krefeld_Weinbrennerei_Dujardin_7737.jpg <- wtf. who transports wine like that for real? 18:50:40 <frosch123> is there some industry-scale usecase for wine? 18:51:51 <andythenorth> frosch123: http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/shipid:3372016/mmsi:-7022057/imo:7022057/vessel:ALDASTE 18:52:50 <andythenorth> wine is one of the original bulk cargos 18:52:59 <andythenorth> the romans used to ship it in vast quantities 18:55:23 <frosch123> i like how wiki says that wine tank cars were retired because they were stolen too often 18:56:02 *** Gja has joined #openttd 18:56:12 <andythenorth> ha 19:02:06 *** Montana has quit IRC 19:04:19 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 19:09:05 <Eddi|zuHause> wine cars always remind me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdV4R9fEQM8 19:10:59 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 19:12:37 *** debdog has quit IRC 19:12:38 *** Montana has joined #openttd 19:16:04 <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: aren't you too young for that? 19:16:33 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: we have this on vinyl 19:17:08 <frosch123> sounds about right :p 19:17:12 <andythenorth> https://vinepair.com/wine-blog/history-wine-transport-8000-years/ 19:17:48 *** debdog has joined #openttd 19:25:17 <V453000> well shit https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8665/environment-problem.png 19:25:36 <V453000> basically shader on the right is the expected result that I'm getting in rendered preview mode in the window 19:25:44 <V453000> the one on the left is what comes out 19:25:44 <andythenorth> words 19:25:57 <V453000> the one in the middle is when I disable environemnt ._. 19:26:08 <V453000> so I know what's broken but have no idea if I can even fix it 19:26:46 <V453000> TL;DR = FUCK 19:28:27 <Eddi|zuHause> this is the second best https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6p19iYqDII 19:28:47 <Wolf01> https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aB8G1XA_700b_v1.jpg totally 19:36:25 <V453000> OMFG I JUST REALIZED WHY IT'S BROKEN 19:36:32 <V453000> it's because I am doing wild shit 19:36:34 <V453000> WILD SHIT 19:36:53 *** Gja has quit IRC 19:38:57 <Eddi|zuHause> deer or boar? 19:40:26 <V453000> T-REX 19:41:15 <V453000> fucking hell 19:43:25 <Eddi|zuHause> that's a brand of beer 19:43:49 *** DDR has quit IRC 19:44:26 <Eddi|zuHause> https://www.urban-drinks.de/fucking-hell-bier-6x033l-49-vol.html?av=1 19:48:31 <V453000> 7e 19:48:33 <Eddi|zuHause> (where "fucking" is a town in austria, and "hell" is the german word for "bright") 19:48:34 <V453000> fuck yeah 19:49:00 <V453000> oh it's 7e for sick pack of 0.33s 19:49:35 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't know beer that well, but that's probably on the expensive side 19:51:10 <frosch123> it's in a green bottle though 19:51:30 <V453000> well compared to czech beer it's expensive as fuck but it could be a relatively normal german beer price I think 20:02:32 <Eddi|zuHause> well, it's certainly expensive if you compare it to Sternburger or Oettinger 20:02:56 <Eddi|zuHause> which are the stereotypical cheap beers around here 20:02:56 <V453000> and just like other german beer it's not worth it :P 20:04:01 <Eddi|zuHause> if you're trying to be fancy you take a Radeberger 20:04:24 <Eddi|zuHause> which is like 12€ for 20 bottles 20:04:30 <Eddi|zuHause> or 14€ 20:04:50 <Eddi|zuHause> or something along that line 20:04:56 <Eddi|zuHause> 0.5l bottles 20:05:41 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 20:06:17 <V453000> here a 0.5l beer costs 20czk and it's already with 2czk deposit and 20czk is already very fancy ... :) 27czk = 1 eur 20:07:32 <frosch123> @calc 20*14/27 20:07:32 <DorpsGek> frosch123: 10.3703703704 20:08:11 <Eddi|zuHause> deposit is like 8¢ 20:08:20 <Eddi|zuHause> and 3€ for the crate 20:08:42 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: that calculation makes no sense 20:09:25 <frosch123> @calc 20*20/27 20:09:25 <DorpsGek> frosch123: 14.8148148148 20:09:32 <frosch123> true, got the wrong number 20:09:46 <frosch123> so, czech beer is more expensive than the premium east german beer? 20:09:51 <V453000> oh 20:09:54 <V453000> yeah actually that's true 20:10:09 <V453000> my father was buying pilsner urquell from germany 20:10:13 <V453000> just because it was cheaper 20:10:17 <V453000> yay for our taxes yo 20:10:38 <frosch123> he, i thought we are famous for taxes 20:11:00 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: if you want to see beer taxes, go to scandinavian countries :p 20:11:10 <frosch123> i were there 20:11:20 <frosch123> it was obligatory to bring something as present 20:12:40 <V453000> virgin blood? 20:13:58 <frosch123> https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/166425/umfrage/steuersaetze-fuer-spirituosen/ <- that also list cz as cheaper 20:14:52 <V453000> that page is just telling me that it wants some premium funkcionality :D 20:14:54 <V453000> ior shit 20:15:26 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, for me too 20:16:14 <V453000> probably uses the same account as frosch's porn subscription 20:16:16 <V453000> G_G 20:16:49 <frosch123> i trade it in for renting the unicorns 20:18:16 *** Montana has quit IRC 20:18:25 <frosch123> anyway, it claims ger has 20% higher alcohol taxes than cz 20:18:43 <frosch123> though it only lists taxes for 15%, 32% and 38% 20:18:50 <frosch123> maybe there is a beer exception :p 20:19:03 <V453000> I guess cz has 300% higher retardation taxes 20:19:04 <V453000> or something 20:19:12 <V453000> well, I go 20:19:12 <V453000> gnight 20:19:21 <V453000> also pilsner urquell is the most expensive beer here 20:19:32 <V453000> the rest is like 50% the price 20:19:40 <V453000> some things even less 20:19:59 <V453000> well you can get more expensive exotic things but you get the point 20:27:41 <Wolf01> Does somebody want to trade sins of a solar empire: rebellion? I have it spare, and I look for [endless space 2|wasteland 2|wh40k:dow3] 20:47:09 *** chomwitt has joined #openttd 20:58:59 <Eddi|zuHause> i played that on some lan a few years ago 21:00:00 *** Defaultti has quit IRC 21:03:09 <frosch123> "I am buying a company which has a value of 2 million. The companies bank balance is 1 million." <- something suggestions to info@ read like scam :) 21:03:53 <frosch123> *sometimes 21:06:47 <glx> so M of vehicles and properties 21:12:06 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 21:16:36 *** ToBeFree has joined #openttd 21:31:04 *** Progman has quit IRC 21:36:30 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 21:40:31 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 22:13:26 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 22:32:34 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 22:32:53 *** gelignite has quit IRC 23:14:06 *** Montana has joined #openttd 23:21:22 *** ToBeFree has quit IRC 23:26:25 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 23:28:41 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 23:32:07 *** ericnoan has quit IRC 23:38:06 *** chomwitt has quit IRC 23:47:11 *** ericnoan has joined #openttd