Log for #openttd on 3rd October 2017:
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00:33:02  <Wolf01> 'night
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04:24:14  <znf> Is there any reason I'm seeing my Farms diminish in production?
04:24:22  <znf> They're down to 24 tones, from ~90-something
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06:17:26  <Eddi|zuHause> znf: you should keep your station rating above 67% at all times
06:38:24  <V453000> humenz
06:46:41  <LordAro> omg, where?
07:00:26  <V453000> idk, I just heard it somewhere
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09:06:59  <Wolf01> Moin
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10:25:52  <__ln__>
10:27:13  <crem> That link appears at least weekly on this channel!
10:27:24  <crem> Hm.. Maybe we should set up a bot that posts it.
10:27:49  <crem> Ah, it's close!
10:29:03  <__ln__> impossible, i haven't seen the link even once on this channel.
10:31:19  <crem> Ok, that's only the third time that I saw it.
10:31:39  <peter1138> Heh.
10:31:53  <peter1138> Let me know when they add road vehicles, ships and aircraft.
10:32:36  <crem> Do you know that aincient puzzle game called shortline?
10:32:49  <crem> It was pretty nice!
10:33:12  <peter1138> Hmm, nope.
10:33:16  <peter1138> Nice EGA resolution.
10:33:34  <peter1138> Pls to be stretching the pixel vertically...
10:35:04  <peter1138> Yeah, looks much better scaled to 640x480.
10:36:45  <Wolf01> crem:
10:36:47  <peter1138>
10:38:55  <__ln__> also
10:39:49  <Wolf01> Lol
10:41:08  <crem> ah, that competition.. I thought about different. Some years ago there was some marathon run, and all roads were closed for traffic. But there was a railway intersection, where the train did some slow maneurs causing everyone to wait.
10:46:56  <Wolf01> I think I found a bug with autoreplace
10:47:10  <peter1138> Never!
10:48:12  <Wolf01> Mmmh, no, it works, but it's confusing
10:49:37  <Wolf01> I really think you should show the autoreplaced vehicle icon only in the list it was set up
10:50:00  <Wolf01> I had to browse the entire group list to stop autoreplacing an old vehicle
10:50:47  <Wolf01> (the greyed out ones)
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11:09:16  <V453000> crem: I played the fuck out of that game
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11:29:20  <Wolf01> I think I'll develop road waypoints which could be set on any tile (ramps, crossings, curves)
11:30:12  <Breckett> hi
11:30:20  <Wolf01> Also I'll change the condition to make the oneway road so a player could do it on city owned roads too
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11:44:21  <Breckett> I'm currently doing a small paper on the history of openTTD. All sources I looked at so far simply state that Ludvig Strigeus reverse engineered the original Transport Tycoon Deluxe in 2004. But I can't seem to find a quote by Chris Sawyer on openTTD ... ??
11:45:07  <peter1138> Why would you expect to find one?
11:45:12  <Wolf01> Chris Sawyer made Transport Tycoon (Deluxe) not OTTD
11:46:01  <peter1138> Also why does this come up every few months? How many "papers" about OpenTTD's "history" are needed?
11:46:48  <Breckett> Wolf01: yes. But it seems odd that one cannot not find a statement by the creator of the original game to the spinoff.
11:47:02  <Breckett> peter1138: it's soooo popular! \o/ ;)
11:47:17  <LordAro> i don't think there's anything public
11:47:29  <Wolf01> peter1138: I think every university needs one
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11:48:01  <Wolf01> Also every tech blog/gaming site
11:48:21  <LordAro> several people over the years have been in contact with him (or his lawyers) with the general response of "yes he's aware of it, he doesn't like it, but accepts that there's nothing he can do about it"
11:48:40  <LordAro> (look for some of these secondhand sources yourself, i could be making it up)
11:48:48  <LordAro> Breckett: ^
11:49:49  <Breckett> LordAro: ok that's a start xD
11:50:28  <LordAro> dig through some ancient parts of tt-forums
11:51:45  <crem> There should be documentary movie about openttd!
11:51:54  <crem> Or better documentary series.
11:53:51  <Wolf01> There's Twitch for that
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18:28:56  <andythenorth> o/
18:29:47  <frosch123> hoi
18:30:06  <V453000> hi humenz
18:30:07  <Wolf01> o/, quak
18:30:18  * andythenorth playing game
18:30:22  <andythenorth> train sprites all over the place
18:30:26  <V453000> XD
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18:32:48  <andythenorth> so wood cars
18:32:50  <andythenorth> yes / no?
18:32:56  <V453000>  / why not
18:32:57  <V453000> ?
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18:33:03  <andythenorth> seems weird
18:33:17  <andythenorth> Hog has wood trucks, because RL wood trucks are quite unique (and boss)
18:33:31  <andythenorth> Sam has log tug thing because floating logs
18:33:45  <andythenorth> trains…nothing special, just a stake wagon
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18:36:00  <andythenorth> ha 2/8 caboose
18:37:20  <supermop> wood trains nothing special
18:38:02  <andythenorth> probably better to do a stake car
18:38:06  <andythenorth> and refit more stuff
18:38:11  <andythenorth> or something
18:38:32  <frosch123> andythenorth: you can give variety to wood cars by changing the orientation of the logs
18:38:42  <frosch123> along or across
18:38:43  <andythenorth> yes
18:39:07  <andythenorth> variety is fine, I’m just questioning if it’s worth spamming the buy menu with a single-cargo wagon type
18:39:33  <frosch123> no, it's just a refit of the flat van or open wagon
18:40:50  * andythenorth tending to agree
18:41:10  <andythenorth> eh probably all the answers are in here
18:41:21  <andythenorth> in the UK we name our wagons after fish :P
18:41:30  <andythenorth> the german system is more...structured
18:43:30  <frosch123> there was a 4th class? never heard of that
18:45:10  <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, it was basically "bring your own chair" class
18:45:40  <frosch123> so like today's ice on sundays?
18:45:54  <andythenorth> Klappdeckelwagen eh
18:45:57  <andythenorth> not so much in UK
18:46:10  <Eddi|zuHause> maybe closest to modern bike compartment
18:47:14  <Eddi|zuHause> i mean the areas in modern wagons where you have these seats along the sides, and the middle area is empty
18:47:31  <frosch123> <- clearly you need those for wine and beer
18:47:47  <andythenorth> edibles tank wagon
18:49:29  <frosch123> <- wtf. who transports wine like that for real?
18:50:40  <frosch123> is there some industry-scale usecase for wine?
18:51:51  <andythenorth> frosch123:
18:52:50  <andythenorth> wine is one of the original bulk cargos
18:52:59  <andythenorth> the romans used to ship it in vast quantities
18:55:23  <frosch123> i like how wiki says that wine tank cars were retired because they were stolen too often
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18:56:12  <andythenorth> ha
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19:09:05  <Eddi|zuHause> wine cars always remind me of
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19:16:04  <frosch123> Eddi|zuHause: aren't you too young for that?
19:16:33  <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: we have this on vinyl
19:17:08  <frosch123> sounds about right :p
19:17:12  <andythenorth>
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19:25:17  <V453000> well shit
19:25:36  <V453000> basically shader on the right is the expected result that I'm getting in rendered preview mode in the window
19:25:44  <V453000> the one on the left is what comes out
19:25:44  <andythenorth> words
19:25:57  <V453000> the one in the middle is when I disable environemnt ._.
19:26:08  <V453000> so I know what's broken but have no idea if I can even fix it
19:26:46  <V453000> TL;DR = FUCK
19:28:27  <Eddi|zuHause> this is the second best
19:28:47  <Wolf01> totally
19:36:32  <V453000> it's because I am doing wild shit
19:36:34  <V453000> WILD SHIT
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19:38:57  <Eddi|zuHause> deer or boar?
19:40:26  <V453000> T-REX
19:41:15  <V453000> fucking hell
19:43:25  <Eddi|zuHause> that's a brand of beer
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19:44:26  <Eddi|zuHause>
19:48:31  <V453000> 7e
19:48:33  <Eddi|zuHause> (where "fucking" is a town in austria, and "hell" is the german word for "bright")
19:48:34  <V453000> fuck yeah
19:49:00  <V453000> oh it's 7e for sick pack of 0.33s
19:49:35  <Eddi|zuHause> i don't know beer that well, but that's probably on the expensive side
19:51:10  <frosch123> it's in a green bottle though
19:51:30  <V453000> well compared to czech beer it's expensive as fuck but it could be a relatively normal german beer price I think
20:02:32  <Eddi|zuHause> well, it's certainly expensive if you compare it to Sternburger or Oettinger
20:02:56  <Eddi|zuHause> which are the stereotypical cheap beers around here
20:02:56  <V453000> and just like other german beer it's not worth it :P
20:04:01  <Eddi|zuHause> if you're trying to be fancy you take a Radeberger
20:04:24  <Eddi|zuHause> which is like 12€ for 20 bottles
20:04:30  <Eddi|zuHause> or 14€
20:04:50  <Eddi|zuHause> or something along that line
20:04:56  <Eddi|zuHause> 0.5l bottles
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20:06:17  <V453000> here a 0.5l beer costs 20czk and it's already with 2czk deposit and 20czk is already very fancy ... :) 27czk = 1 eur
20:07:32  <frosch123> @calc 20*14/27
20:07:32  <DorpsGek> frosch123: 10.3703703704
20:08:11  <Eddi|zuHause> deposit is like 8¢
20:08:20  <Eddi|zuHause> and 3€ for the crate
20:08:42  <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: that calculation makes no sense
20:09:25  <frosch123> @calc 20*20/27
20:09:25  <DorpsGek> frosch123: 14.8148148148
20:09:32  <frosch123> true, got the wrong number
20:09:46  <frosch123> so, czech beer is more expensive than the premium east german beer?
20:09:51  <V453000> oh
20:09:54  <V453000> yeah actually that's true
20:10:09  <V453000> my father was buying pilsner urquell from germany
20:10:13  <V453000> just because it was cheaper
20:10:17  <V453000> yay for our taxes yo
20:10:38  <frosch123> he, i thought we are famous for taxes
20:11:00  <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: if you want to see beer taxes, go to scandinavian countries :p
20:11:10  <frosch123> i were there
20:11:20  <frosch123> it was obligatory to bring something as present
20:12:40  <V453000> virgin blood?
20:13:58  <frosch123> <- that also list cz as cheaper
20:14:52  <V453000> that page is just telling me that it wants some premium funkcionality :D
20:14:54  <V453000> ior shit
20:15:26  <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, for me too
20:16:14  <V453000> probably uses the same account as frosch's porn subscription
20:16:16  <V453000> G_G
20:16:49  <frosch123> i trade it in for renting the unicorns
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20:18:25  <frosch123> anyway, it claims ger has 20% higher alcohol taxes than cz
20:18:43  <frosch123> though it only lists taxes for 15%, 32% and 38%
20:18:50  <frosch123> maybe there is a beer exception :p
20:19:03  <V453000> I guess cz has 300% higher retardation taxes
20:19:04  <V453000> or something
20:19:12  <V453000> well, I go
20:19:12  <V453000> gnight
20:19:21  <V453000> also pilsner urquell is the most expensive beer here
20:19:32  <V453000> the rest is like 50% the price
20:19:40  <V453000> some things even less
20:19:59  <V453000> well you can get more expensive exotic things but you get the point
20:27:41  <Wolf01> Does somebody want to trade sins of a solar empire: rebellion? I have it spare, and I look for [endless space 2|wasteland 2|wh40k:dow3]
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20:58:59  <Eddi|zuHause> i played that on some lan a few years ago
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21:03:09  <frosch123> "I am buying a company which has a value of 2 million. The companies bank balance is 1 million." <- something suggestions to info@ read like scam :)
21:03:53  <frosch123> *sometimes
21:06:47  <glx> so M of vehicles and properties
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