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<peter1138> I think it's all bit wonky since the extra zoom levels. 09:13:57 <peter1138> There's far more sounds 'visible' now. 09:43:33 <V453000> hehe yeah 09:54:39 <PressureLine> good news is 09:54:58 <PressureLine> the ALCo/GE boxcab is ****ing awesome for wood hauling 09:59:55 *** Biolunar has joined #openttd 11:07:36 *** ToBeFree has joined #openttd 11:15:35 *** ToBeFree has quit IRC 11:15:44 *** ToBeFree has joined #openttd 11:20:04 *** ToBeFree has quit IRC 11:23:41 *** Mazur has quit IRC 11:30:34 *** PressureLine has quit IRC 11:32:15 *** Mazur has joined #openttd 11:37:43 *** Biolunar has quit IRC 11:44:36 *** TheMask96 has quit IRC 11:48:33 *** TheMask96 has joined #openttd 12:57:48 *** chomwitt has joined #openttd 13:10:39 *** Arveen has quit IRC 13:30:42 *** smoke_fumus has joined #openttd 13:35:43 *** chomwitt has quit IRC 13:50:13 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 13:56:03 *** debdog has quit IRC 13:59:50 *** Samu has joined #openttd 14:01:01 *** chomwitt has joined #openttd 14:03:55 *** debdog has joined #openttd 14:15:21 <Samu> hi 14:28:59 *** Samu has quit IRC 14:36:07 *** Flygon has quit IRC 14:45:35 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 15:03:29 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 15:03:55 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 15:20:56 *** johnwhitlow[m] has joined #openttd 15:27:40 *** Samu has joined #openttd 15:44:40 *** TheMask96 has quit IRC 15:45:35 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has quit IRC 15:47:05 *** Alberth has joined #openttd 15:47:05 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Alberth 15:47:15 *** TheMask96 has joined #openttd 15:47:18 <Alberth> o/ 15:47:38 <crem> o__/ 15:50:54 *** chomwitt has quit IRC 15:52:56 <Samu> I wish there was ship ai that would make use of rivers :( 15:53:43 <Alberth> building docks in rivers is a obstacle, I think 15:55:00 <Samu> someone reported this on the forum https://www.tt-forums.net/download/file.php?id=200433 15:55:19 <Samu> i'm familiar with that widget naming 15:55:47 <Samu> WID_RV_TRAIN_ENGINEWAGON_DROPDOWN 15:55:57 <Samu> WID_RV_TRAIN_RAILTYPE_DROPDOWN 15:56:04 <Samu> WID_RV_TRAIN_WAGONREMOVE_TOGGLE 15:56:23 <Samu> that name on the report doesn't exist 15:56:43 *** tokai|noir has joined #openttd 15:56:43 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai|noir 15:56:54 <Samu> it's used for the autoreplace train window 16:01:51 <Samu> heh, it could be a toggle, but it's not 16:01:53 <Samu> it's a dropdown 16:03:31 *** tokai has quit IRC 16:05:22 <Samu> cpu evaluator kills so many AI's :( 16:11:13 <Alberth> it's more that many AIs are abandoned 16:18:39 <Eddi|zuHause> <Alberth> building docks in rivers is a obstacle, I think <-- i think that is silly 16:19:16 <Eddi|zuHause> like people rationalizing why they're still living in an abusive relationship 16:23:26 <Alberth> I don't see what you're trying to say 16:32:11 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm trying to say that building docks shouldn't be an obstacle 16:32:52 <Eddi|zuHause> it should be made easier 16:32:59 <Eddi|zuHause> by allowing more placement options 16:35:28 <peter1138> I had a patch for that... 16:39:58 <Samu> i made some too 16:41:04 <Samu> can build on land, it just places canals under it 16:41:16 <Samu> it's just that the costs are too much 16:44:12 <Samu> what have you done peter1138 16:44:56 *** Cubey has joined #openttd 16:45:28 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 16:48:53 <peter1138> It was ages ago. 16:49:01 <peter1138> And unfinished. 16:49:41 <Samu> i really have to organize this topic https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=76075 16:50:02 <Samu> download v7, to see what I've done 16:50:25 <Samu> crap, wrong topic 16:50:41 <Samu> https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=72691 16:50:44 <Samu> this is it 16:50:58 <Samu> i'm in the process of merging those two 16:52:02 <Eddi|zuHause> of course you did, and of course it was... :p 16:53:04 <Samu> https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1176710#p1176710 description is here 16:53:10 <Samu> documentation* 16:53:24 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 16:53:41 <Samu> kinda, most of it is there 16:53:50 <Samu> must update the topic really:( 16:54:30 *** greeter has quit IRC 16:56:26 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 17:00:55 *** debdog has quit IRC 17:06:11 *** debdog has joined #openttd 17:28:31 *** dustinm`_ has joined #openttd 17:28:38 *** Speedy has quit IRC 17:28:41 *** Speedy` has joined #openttd 17:28:45 *** debdog has quit IRC 17:28:59 *** Speedy` is now known as Speedy 17:32:03 *** dustinm` has quit IRC 17:32:03 *** dustinm`_ is now known as dustinm` 17:33:33 *** debdog has joined #openttd 17:33:40 <Samu> slope math! 17:33:43 <Samu> if (((IsSlopeWithOneCornerRaised(slope2) || IsSlopeWithThreeCornersRaised(slope2) || slope2 == SLOPE_EW || slope2 == SLOPE_NS) && IsInclinedSlope(slope1) && DiagDirToAxis(GetInclinedSlopeDirection(slope1)) == axis) || ((IsSlopeWithOneCornerRaised(slope1) || IsSlopeWithThreeCornersRaised(slope1) || slope1 == SLOPE_EW || slope1 == SLOPE_NS) && IsInclinedSlope(slope2) && DiagDirToAxis(GetInclinedSlopeDirection(slope2)) == axis)) return_cmd_error 17:33:47 <Samu> doesn't even fit 17:34:23 <Samu> LE); 17:46:16 *** synchris has joined #openttd 17:51:53 <Alberth> looks like 2 times the same test, once for slope1 and once for slope2 ? 18:04:48 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 18:04:55 <Wolf01> o/ 18:05:03 <Wolf01> Is it friday yet? 18:05:24 *** Stevensoner has quit IRC 18:07:14 <Wolf01> Wtf? 14 updates of 512bytes on steam 18:10:31 <Alberth> 7KB? that shouldn't be a problem :p 18:10:58 <Alberth> and it's almost friday 18:13:06 <Wolf01> https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1194543#p1194543 wait, what? 18:14:27 <Samu> it's an exploit :( 18:15:06 <Wolf01> Mmmh, make a bridge of 2 tiles to make a 2 tile straight ramp, handle it on grf and the state machine to fix the graphics+vehicle position... win 18:15:07 <Samu> a bug 18:15:55 <Samu> same with road vehicles 18:17:12 <Samu> i've seen ppl exploit this bug to make trains go faster. Makes me wonder what kind of OpenTTD they're using, it seems they build those 2-tile ramps automatically with drag and drop 18:17:30 *** Gja has joined #openttd 18:18:11 *** cosmobird has joined #openttd 18:18:41 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 18:18:48 *** Progman has joined #openttd 18:22:36 *** Biolunar has joined #openttd 18:23:35 *** glx has joined #openttd 18:23:35 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 18:32:47 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 18:41:00 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has joined #openttd 18:42:54 *** orudge` has quit IRC 18:43:07 *** orudge` has joined #openttd 18:43:07 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge` 18:54:39 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 19:00:53 *** orudge` has quit IRC 19:00:59 *** orudge` has joined #openttd 19:01:00 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge` 19:12:01 *** JacobD88 has joined #openttd 19:28:01 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 19:41:31 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 19:43:36 *** JacobD88 has quit IRC 19:59:11 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 20:01:29 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 20:12:46 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 20:18:51 *** tycoondemon has joined #openttd 20:20:03 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has quit IRC 20:23:20 *** tycoondemon has quit IRC 20:23:20 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 20:32:36 *** tycoondemon has joined #openttd 20:38:03 *** Alberth has left #openttd 20:55:20 <V453000> omg slope steepness hax 20:55:34 <Wolf01> o/ 20:58:33 <frosch123> should we fix it, or keep it as advanced building technique? :p 20:58:39 <frosch123> cover slopes in bridges 20:59:25 <V453000> if it's complicated to fix, I wouldn't care 20:59:29 <V453000> if it's super simple, eh I guess 21:00:12 <V453000> it also has the opposite side of the coin 21:00:42 <V453000> if the downhill matters more then it's more efficient to build bridges in complex joiners because at the point when train joins it's going downhill, not uphill from a tunnel 21:01:54 <frosch123> yeah, you can accelerate trains my combiing bridges and slopes in a row 21:02:03 <frosch123> up on hill, down on bridge or so 21:02:44 <Wolf01> If you can make trains go faster than their max speed is a win 21:03:19 <frosch123> unlikely :)= 21:19:09 <Eddi|zuHause> i think someone would have noticed if vehicles on bridges ignore speed limits 21:19:43 <Eddi|zuHause> can anyone help me unfritz my fritzbox? 21:20:09 <Eddi|zuHause> every guide on the internet say i should check the capacitors 21:20:15 <Eddi|zuHause> but i don't see anything unusual 21:21:39 *** as has joined #openttd 21:22:15 *** as has quit IRC 21:23:18 <debdog> throw it out the window, get yourself a proper router 21:24:00 <debdog> also, not always is it visable on the outside if a capacitor is defective 21:24:09 <debdog> if in doubt, just replace all of 'em 21:27:30 <Eddi|zuHause> debdog: i have a linksys router that i found somewhere, but it doesn't have a usb port to put a UMTS stick on, and i have an older fritzbox which does have a USB port, but doesn't offer that functionality software-wise 21:28:28 <Eddi|zuHause> also, there's like 10 capacitors of multiple capacities, and i don't have any spare parts. or soldering skills for that matter 21:29:44 *** cosmobird has quit IRC 21:30:16 <debdog> hmm 21:30:45 <debdog> do you know anyone with such skills? 21:31:00 <Eddi|zuHause> also, my multimeter doesn't have a capacity measuring function 21:31:13 <debdog> depending on how many layers the PCB has, it mightbe challenging 21:31:44 <debdog> ideally throw them all away 21:31:48 *** gelignite has quit IRC 21:31:57 <debdog> and replace them with new ones 21:33:05 <debdog> if the PCB only has an upper and lower side layer, it probably is not too hard to replace them even without soldering skills 21:33:35 <Eddi|zuHause> "layers" sounds like something you'd do in a cellphone to save space 21:33:52 <debdog> hehe 21:34:19 <debdog> I think I never saw a fritzbox' inside live 21:36:21 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 21:36:30 <debdog> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leiterplattenentflechtung#/media/File:Pcblayout.png 21:37:25 <debdog> only has conducting paths on top and bottom 21:37:49 <debdog> if there are layers inside the board it sometimes is hard to get rid of the old solder 21:44:39 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 21:45:19 <Eddi|zuHause> i find it hard to belive that they would do that on a device that is not really space restricted 21:49:47 <debdog> since the multi layer boards are not really expensive anymore they are used even for non-space-critical stuff, too. for various reasons 21:49:48 *** Smedles has quit IRC 21:50:10 *** Smedles has joined #openttd 21:54:27 <debdog> however, if you intend to give it a shot, I'd be glad to guide you through. 21:54:42 <Eddi|zuHause> not today 21:55:32 <debdog> of course not. you'd have to get at least one replacement capacitor first 21:55:46 <debdog> and Entlötlitze 21:56:56 <debdog> or just get all the capacitors and give it to someone you know with soldering skills to replace them 21:58:01 <Eddi|zuHause> i'd really like to figure out which part is broken, though 21:59:16 <debdog> what does it do? or rather, what doesn't it? 21:59:20 <debdog> totally dead? 21:59:35 <debdog> how old is it? 21:59:37 <Eddi|zuHause> a few red LEDs, no function 21:59:40 <Eddi|zuHause> over 5 years 21:59:56 <Eddi|zuHause> 7270 v3 22:00:37 <debdog> well, replacing the caps would be a first to start. if it still not works, start replacing other stuff. 22:01:45 <debdog> also, on freenode there's a channel ##fitzbox. mayhap hippie there has some experience with the insides of fritzboxes 22:01:51 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 22:02:02 <debdog> ##fritzbox 22:02:39 <debdog> or one of the other guys, for that matter. 22:07:40 *** Gja has quit IRC 22:09:41 <Samu> what is wrong in this picture? 22:10:00 <Samu> the AIs aren't ready for my patch:( 22:25:16 *** synchris has quit IRC 22:31:58 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 22:39:41 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has joined #openttd 22:40:38 *** Progman has quit IRC 22:43:09 <Wolf01> 'night 22:43:12 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 22:49:11 *** Biolunar has quit IRC 22:49:58 *** Arveen has joined #openttd 23:00:43 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 23:01:53 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 23:03:43 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 23:09:42 <supermop> how would a RV grf cause crashes? 23:14:16 *** davidstrauss has quit IRC 23:20:52 <debdog> driving on the wrong side of the road? 23:28:32 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 23:47:08 *** GeneralCamo has joined #openttd 23:47:57 <GeneralCamo> Hello 23:48:03 <GeneralCamo> Does anyone here work on OpenMSX? 23:48:52 <GeneralCamo> I'm not a fan of some of the percussion lines in some of the songs (E.G, Modern Motion), and was considering redoing them.