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15:53:30 <Samu> start an AI 15:55:29 <Samu> openttd 1.7.2 still runs on my old athlon xp 2700+ 15:56:34 <Alberth> don't turn off the power :) 15:59:10 <andythenorth> o/ 15:59:57 <Alberth> hi hi 16:00:33 <peter1138> Why would it not run on it? 16:02:39 <Samu> it's a windows 7 system with a 32-bit processor 16:03:28 <Samu> with 2 GB of ram 16:04:08 *** ZexaronS has joined #openttd 16:04:08 <Samu> most of the % power goes to processing graphics 16:04:56 <Samu> when openttd is minimized, i get ~5-8% usage 16:05:52 <Samu> 17%~20% when staring at a still screen 16:06:03 <Samu> 48-60% when scrolling screen 16:19:19 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 16:20:21 <andythenorth> quak 16:22:11 <frosch123> moo 16:32:00 *** RafiX has joined #openttd 16:34:59 <Borg> oh.. 16:35:10 <Borg> on my i5-760.. OpenTTD uses barely 3% 16:35:13 <Borg> anytime 16:39:30 *** RafiX has quit IRC 16:39:48 *** RafiX has joined #openttd 16:39:57 *** Cubey has joined #openttd 16:43:07 *** Progman has joined #openttd 16:43:45 *** ericnoan has quit IRC 16:44:21 <Alkel_U3> I maxed out CPU usage to 100% when I ran a server on an Allwiner A20 SOC with ~5-6 players at 512^2 map, but only after about 100 years :-) 16:45:36 *** Gja has quit IRC 16:46:26 *** Gja has joined #openttd 16:48:05 <Borg> Alkel_U3: vanilla? any GS ? 16:49:44 <andythenorth> openttd uses up to about 80% of CPU for me 16:49:49 <andythenorth> rarely more 16:51:42 <andythenorth> but I have an old, low-spec CPU 16:51:48 <andythenorth> i7-7567U 16:51:53 <andythenorth> 3.5Ghz 16:52:01 <andythenorth> GHz 16:54:34 <Alkel_U3> Borg: vanilla and I forgot to mention that it was just before cargodist 16:54:58 *** RafiX2 has joined #openttd 16:55:56 <Alkel_U3> although CD runs in another thread if I'm not mistaken so the dualcore SOC would probably still be able to keep up 16:59:23 <Borg> andythenorth: old spec? ;P 16:59:36 <Borg> need to lookup ark.intel.com later.. to compare to mine 17:00:48 *** RafiX has quit IRC 17:01:48 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 has joined #openttd 17:02:17 <andythenorth> https://ark.intel.com/products/97541/Intel-Core-i7-7567U-Processor-4M-Cache-up-to-4_00-GHz 17:04:25 <Borg> https://ark.intel.com/compare/97541,48496,48496 17:04:31 <Borg> dude.. its strange :) 17:04:51 <Borg> andythenorth: huges maps? shitload of GRFs? and CPU intensive GS? 17:05:18 <Borg> andythenorth: its mobile? 17:06:32 <Borg> yeah.. mobile 17:06:45 <Borg> so I guess you use intergrated GPU 17:06:57 *** HerzogDeXtEr2 has joined #openttd 17:07:46 <andythenorth> yes 17:07:54 <Samu> run in 8bpp 17:08:03 <andythenorth> 8bpp is much worse I think 17:08:06 <andythenorth> than 32bpp 17:08:07 <Samu> let me check my openttd.cfg 17:08:16 <Borg> I run in 8bpp too 17:08:57 <Samu> blitter = "8bpp-optimized" 17:08:59 <andythenorth> to be accurate, 80% of one thread unit 17:09:03 <Borg> of course 17:09:18 <Samu> what if you minimize the window 17:09:26 <Samu> cpu usage should go down 17:09:34 <Borg> blitter = "" 17:09:34 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 17:09:38 <Borg> whatever I use :D 17:13:49 <Samu> soundsset = "NoSound" 17:13:55 <Samu> musicset = "NoMusic" 17:14:58 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 has quit IRC 17:15:17 <Samu> sprite_cache_size_px = 128 17:15:23 <Samu> not sure what is it for 17:16:50 <Borg> let me load my very busy 512x512 map.. West 90210 17:16:51 <Samu> yes, full animation is off 17:18:41 <Borg> up to 15% when I zoom out max and scroll around 17:19:30 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has joined #openttd 17:19:38 *** ericnoan has joined #openttd 17:19:54 <Borg> I remember when I had P3 933MHz.. yes.. 17:20:01 <Borg> OpenTTD could eat 100% when max zoom out.. :) 17:20:21 <Samu> i'm not sure i can start a 4k map 17:20:25 <Samu> let's try 17:22:16 <Samu> 17:22 - started generating 17:29:21 *** Samu has quit IRC 17:30:31 *** Samu has joined #openttd 17:31:00 <Samu> tile loop thing 17:31:33 *** synchris_ has quit IRC 17:31:41 <Samu> finished 17:33:15 *** synchris has joined #openttd 17:39:08 <Samu> test 17:40:34 *** Stimrol has joined #openttd 17:44:18 * peter1138 has an old CPU now. 17:45:34 <Samu> too slow 17:46:37 <peter1138> Hmm, OpenTTD 0% CPU (in a network game) 17:46:56 <peter1138> Ooh it went up to 0.2% 17:47:30 <peter1138> Ah, 0.5% zoomed out. 17:49:04 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has quit IRC 17:49:38 <peter1138> That's more like it. 10% if I scroll the map around. 17:50:04 <peter1138> I guess that's 10% of the whole CPU rather than just one core. 17:50:57 <Samu> i'm trying to host and failing 17:51:14 <Samu> firewall, port forward, grr 17:51:18 <Samu> router 17:52:07 <Samu> nevermind, I was not announcing it 17:52:46 <Borg> Samu: anything special going to be hosted? 17:53:03 <Borg> I just started server.. 1950 start.. its 1960.. :) so 17:53:20 <Samu> not really, just trying to see if i can host with this system 17:53:27 *** glx has joined #openttd 17:53:27 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 17:54:13 <Samu> server doesn't show up 17:54:28 *** Alberth has left #openttd 17:54:47 <Borg> Samu: its really easier to get VPS and host there :) 17:57:02 <Samu> i always forget what i need to forward 17:57:54 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 17:58:55 <Samu> OpenTTD on a windows 10 install has 2 Readme's 17:59:18 <Samu> and they're both different 17:59:28 <peter1138> I only have one. 17:59:53 <Wolf01> o/ 18:00:03 <peter1138> Well, there's another in the scripts/ directory. 18:00:30 <Borg> 2 ports 18:00:38 <Wolf01> http://www.pcgamer.com/the-weirdest-patch-notes-of-2017/ why no OpenTTD? 18:00:49 <Borg> tcp+udp:3979 18:01:57 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 18:03:29 <Wolf01> Mmmh, I should start to prepare the announcement for 1st april 18:03:55 <Samu> * port 3979 is free for both UDP and TCP connections in- and outgoing * port 3978 is free outbound for UDP in order to advertise with the master server (if desired). Otherwise you'll have to tell players your IP. * port 3977 if use of the admin interface is desired (see admin_network.txt) 18:03:55 <Wolf01> This time we'll add screenshots too, with weird features 18:04:40 <Wolf01> andythenorth, supermop_work_: need grfs or pixel editing to show stuff which won't ever be in game, like canals 18:07:07 *** RafiX has joined #openttd 18:07:42 <andythenorth> canal docks :P 18:08:24 <Wolf01> Dried out sea 18:08:48 <Wolf01> Mad max trucks in place of ships 18:09:03 <Samu> i still can't host, damn me 18:09:18 *** Stimrol has quit IRC 18:12:20 *** RafiX2 has joined #openttd 18:12:22 <Alkel_U3> I also suggest a VPS - the basic one at Forpsi costs an euro a month and has enough resources to run at least two instances at once 18:13:29 <Samu> will a DMZ Host suffice? 18:13:43 <Samu> can't seem to do it with port forwarding 18:15:28 *** RafiX has quit IRC 18:24:16 <Samu> https://www.openttd.org/en/servers 18:24:18 <Samu> grrr 18:26:13 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 18:26:31 <Samu> we are not receiving the acknowledgement from the server 18:28:36 *** Gja has quit IRC 18:30:55 *** Gja has joined #openttd 18:33:35 <Samu> advertising on master server successful 18:33:43 <Samu> this worked with DMZ Host 18:33:52 <Samu> but i don't like to set up my router like this 18:34:00 <Samu> why am I failing to port forward 18:34:59 <Samu> it's not a windows firewall problem anymore... it's on the router side 18:36:45 <glx> maybe your router can't be joined on external IP from internal IP 18:36:53 <glx> happens on some models 18:37:24 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has joined #openttd 18:38:27 <Samu> queried from x.x.x.x these are the ppl who are getting my server listed on theirs, right? 18:38:41 <glx> yes 18:39:32 <Samu> what is a broadcast address? 18:39:57 <Samu> 192.168.1.255 is a broadcast address 18:40:25 <glx> that's for sending a message on all devices in the subnet IIRC 18:41:16 <Samu> https://www.openttd.org/en/server/115357 18:41:38 <Samu> it's listed there, can someone join? wanted to hear if it's running at the right speed 18:44:44 *** cute[m] has quit IRC 18:44:49 *** cute[m] has joined #openttd 18:44:53 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 18:46:12 *** iSoSyS has quit IRC 18:46:51 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 18:47:21 *** Agiri[m] has quit IRC 18:47:22 <Samu> sec, restarting server as a 4096x4096 map 18:47:25 *** Agiri[m] has joined #openttd 18:48:45 <Samu> newgame command on a dedicated server creates new game as a server, or as a single player? hmm.. 18:49:21 <Samu> meh, i'll find out in a min 18:49:32 <Samu> still generating, 50% 18:52:08 <Samu> it's up 18:52:19 <Samu> somebody try join? 18:58:53 <peter1138> What's it called? 18:59:23 <Samu> https://www.openttd.org/en/server/115357 18:59:33 <peter1138> What's it called? 19:00:33 *** Stimrol has joined #openttd 19:01:00 <peter1138> "Athlon XP 2700+" was the correct answer. 19:01:42 <peter1138> Network-Game connection lost 19:01:59 <Eddi|zuHause> must be the fastest computer ever built 19:02:03 <Eddi|zuHause> ... in 2005 19:03:31 <Samu> Athlon XP 2700+ 19:03:48 <Samu> client #5 took more than 1000 ticks to dl map and disconnectd 19:04:13 <Samu> damn, it'sso slow, can't even type here 19:04:19 <peter1138> Yeah, my 80mbps connection is not enough :p 19:04:52 *** RafiX has joined #openttd 19:06:00 <Samu> peter1138 name shows up 19:06:00 *** RafiX has quit IRC 19:06:58 <andythenorth> millibits peter1138 ? :o 19:07:32 <Samu> what are the settings to... erm increase these ticks when joining, i forgot 19:07:35 <peter1138> Certainly felt like it. 19:07:50 <peter1138> map_size_x 8 19:10:09 *** RafiX2 has quit IRC 19:10:23 <Samu> map_size_x is 12 19:10:29 <Samu> t.t 19:10:40 <Samu> listsettings network 19:11:59 <Samu> max_init_time 19:12:13 <Samu> max_join_time 19:12:24 <Samu> max_download_time 19:12:33 <Eddi|zuHause> that's 2048? 19:12:40 <Samu> max_password_time 19:12:47 <Eddi|zuHause> or 256? 19:12:50 <Eddi|zuHause> or something else? 19:12:57 <Samu> @calc 2**12 19:12:57 <DorpsGek> Samu: 4096 19:15:46 <Samu> okay, i set up all these times to 32000 19:15:57 <Samu> gonna try map size 2048x2048 19:17:02 <Samu> generating 19:17:04 <Samu> 15% 19:17:19 <Samu> 35 19:17:38 <Samu> 85 19:17:58 <Samu> advertising successful 19:18:02 <Samu> ok try joining again 19:18:06 <Samu> let me look at cpu usage 19:19:18 <Samu> i see it peak at 8% 19:19:51 <Samu> much lower than the 90% at 4096x4096 19:19:52 <Samu> strange 19:21:16 <peter1138> Odd that. 19:21:20 <Samu> why so much difference in cpu usage 19:21:50 <peter1138> 4x less work to do, just on the map, let alone towns & industries. 19:29:33 <Borg> who else here loves getto junctions style building? ;) 19:32:49 <Wolf01> I need to learn how to make rules on tane, I'm trying to make a shunting puzzle 19:33:09 <Samu> who can test joining my server? 19:34:25 *** Stimrol has quit IRC 19:35:08 <Samu> just wanted to know from someone with a modern system if my server is slowing down or sluggish 19:35:14 <Samu> gameplay 19:40:32 *** Stimrol has joined #openttd 19:41:48 *** Stimrol has quit IRC 19:50:34 *** Stimrol has joined #openttd 19:53:01 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 19:53:39 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 19:54:30 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 20:23:32 *** EyesWideShut has joined #openttd 20:24:58 *** ZexaronS has quit IRC 20:26:50 *** EyesWideShut is now known as MindShut 20:26:54 *** MindShut is now known as psychotronics 20:27:02 *** psychotronics is now known as EyesWideShut 20:27:23 *** EyesWideShut is now known as stupidgridape 20:27:51 *** stupidgridape is now known as EyesWideShut 20:28:24 *** EyesWideShut is now known as Mindgone 20:28:40 *** Mindgone is now known as grid-monkey 20:29:03 *** EyesWideShut has joined #openttd 20:29:11 *** synchris has quit IRC 20:29:25 *** EyesWideShut has quit IRC 20:29:26 *** EyesWideShut has joined #openttd 20:30:05 *** EyesWideShut has joined #openttd 20:30:20 *** EyesWideShut is now known as WakeUp 20:30:53 *** Supercheese has joined #openttd 20:31:49 <Samu> ERROR: Silly boy, you cannot move the server! 20:32:01 <Samu> who came up with these name calling 20:32:09 *** dumbgridguy has joined #openttd 20:33:46 *** dumbgridguy has quit IRC 20:37:10 *** EyesWideShut has joined #openttd 20:39:18 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 20:42:57 *** EyesWideShut has quit IRC 20:43:42 *** EraseWhiteHats has joined #openttd 20:44:17 *** EraseWhiteHats has joined #openttd 20:45:31 *** EraseWhiteHats has quit IRC 20:45:58 *** mindwipe has joined #openttd 20:46:55 <Samu> @calc ~(4096*4096)/(256*256) 20:46:55 <DorpsGek> Samu: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number. 20:47:03 <Samu> @calc (4096*4096)/(256*256) 20:47:03 <DorpsGek> Samu: 256 20:47:18 *** mindwipe has joined #openttd 20:47:30 <Samu> bigger maps (up to 64 times in size) 20:47:36 <Samu> it's 256 20:47:39 <Samu> fix plz 20:47:46 <Samu> https://www.openttd.org/en/about 20:48:11 *** LockedIn has joined #openttd 20:48:18 <Samu> @calc (2048*2048)/(256*256) 20:48:18 <DorpsGek> Samu: 64 20:48:44 *** LockedIn has joined #openttd 20:49:34 *** LockedIn has joined #openttd 20:54:59 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 20:59:48 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 21:02:32 <Samu> https://bugs.openttd.org/task/6663 21:02:42 <Samu> i've expeienced that many times too 21:02:55 <Samu> i don't know why it happens 21:04:11 <Samu> i create the map in the scenario editor, i place them manually, then i start a game on it and then... boom industries end up closing rather soon 21:04:51 *** ZexaronS has joined #openttd 21:14:12 <Borg> Samu: yeah.. and u could use English... u prick 21:14:13 <Borg> ;) 21:15:29 <Samu> borg, can u join my server, and tell me if it's fast or slow 21:20:03 <Borg> name? 21:20:13 <Samu> athlon xp 2700+ 21:20:39 <Borg> da fuck 21:20:42 <Borg> u could make larger map 21:20:46 <Borg> 10MB to download 21:20:59 <Borg> around 100KB/s download 21:21:27 <Borg> so.. its ok 21:21:32 <Borg> but you should do 512x512 map 21:21:40 <Samu> that slow? i thought my connection was faster :( 21:21:56 <Borg> takes ages to join :D 21:22:12 <Borg> and vioala 21:22:15 <Borg> I was kicked out 21:22:19 <Borg> unable to join.. too much to download 21:22:25 <Borg> or wait 21:22:31 <Borg> it stalled 21:22:36 <Borg> yeah.. joined finaly 21:22:57 <Samu> Borg has joined 21:23:10 <Samu> nice, but how does it behave? sluggish? normal? 21:24:45 <Borg> lets see traffic 21:25:16 <Samu> I see there's a UaPro client in, didn't notice him join, bah 21:25:22 <Borg> it still needs 1KB/s for now :) good 21:25:29 <Borg> around 2KB/s 21:26:04 <Borg> looks ok 21:26:53 <Borg> trains move ok 21:27:55 <Borg> 100% CPU usage 21:27:57 <Samu> are there trees? unsure 21:27:59 <Borg> on world map.. :D 21:28:02 <Samu> if i disabled or not 21:28:18 <Borg> yeah.. there are 21:28:29 <Samu> erm, oops 21:28:48 <Samu> ok, they eat too much savegame size 21:29:19 <Borg> I wonder if anyone plays on map larges that 1024x1024 ;) 21:29:30 <Borg> for one person I feel confortable on 512x512 21:29:34 <Borg> or even 256x256 21:29:45 <Borg> on multiplayer I usualy play on 512x512 or 1024x512 21:30:54 <Samu> Borg has left the game 21:30:58 <Borg> yeah 21:31:02 <Borg> im not going to play there.. :P 21:31:07 <Samu> ok 21:31:16 <Borg> I have my own server :) 21:31:23 <Samu> was the other guy there doing anythin? 21:31:31 <Borg> yeah 21:31:36 <Borg> made coal route 21:31:51 <Borg> such map is unplayable.. 21:31:55 <Borg> 800+ industries.. any type 21:32:02 <Borg> shitload of cities.. :) 21:32:12 <Borg> not fun 21:36:20 *** Borg has quit IRC 21:42:43 <Wolf01> 'night 21:42:47 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 21:53:33 *** quiznilo has joined #openttd 21:54:11 <Samu> ST2: hi, what's the most played btpro server of all time? want to know map size 21:55:09 <Samu> and tileset, but i guess that'd be temperate 22:17:29 <ST2> Servers 7, 12, 13 and K1 - very different among them, on size :) 22:17:59 <ST2> dnt ask more details, at phone now xD 22:22:37 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 22:27:49 *** chomwitt has joined #openttd 22:39:38 <Samu> thx 22:56:22 *** Stimrol has quit IRC 23:15:21 *** itsme has joined #openttd 23:31:06 *** Gja has quit IRC 23:33:56 *** tokai has joined #openttd 23:33:56 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 23:39:47 *** itsme is now known as itsme^ 23:41:03 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC 23:45:47 *** itsme^ has left #openttd 23:47:13 *** Biolunar has quit IRC 23:47:21 *** itsme^ has joined #openttd 23:49:17 *** itsme^ has left #openttd 23:50:59 *** Laedek has quit IRC 23:53:57 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 23:54:09 *** ZexaronS has quit IRC