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steeltown makes me want better foundry transports, and trams with ladles for slag and metal 19:20:20 <andythenorth> +1 19:20:27 <andythenorth> going to do that in Road Hog...eventually 19:20:44 <andythenorth> need an NRT conclusion first 19:36:49 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 19:38:20 <supermop_work> i end up using my little industrial trams as belts 19:38:34 <supermop_work> to abuse station ratings 19:45:55 *** Stimrol has quit IRC 19:48:13 <andythenorth> yup 19:56:31 <supermop_work> with only the open wagons they feel a bit silly for some uses, but i already have such an explosion of vehicles 19:57:11 <Samu> i don't know how to make a patch-chain 19:57:55 <Samu> i can't tell tortoisesvn to create a patch against trunk, but to create it against my work, how do i do this 19:59:57 <Samu> branch/tag? 20:00:04 <Samu> who's familiar with tortoise? 20:01:10 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 20:04:56 <john-aj> perhaps you could use a separate tool? like `diff' 20:05:30 <Samu> diff? hmm ok 20:05:31 <Samu> let me try 20:05:34 <LordAro> Samu: svn isn't good at patch queues 20:05:53 <john-aj> are you on windows? i don't know what tools there are there 20:05:53 <LordAro> you'll likely want something like hg or git 20:06:24 <john-aj> yeah, i'd recommend that too :-) 20:07:22 <Samu> tortoisegit? 20:07:30 <LordAro> (helpfully for you, tortoisehg & tortoisegit also exist) 20:08:47 <Samu> i'm so screwed 20:09:50 *** chomwitt has joined #openttd 20:14:38 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 20:16:38 <andythenorth> I am bored of tanks 20:18:12 <supermop_work> world of trams 20:20:20 *** john-aj has quit IRC 20:20:20 *** TheMask96 has quit IRC 20:20:20 *** Gja has quit IRC 20:20:20 *** Borg has quit IRC 20:20:20 *** tokai has quit IRC 20:20:20 *** guru3 has quit IRC 20:20:20 *** juzza1 has quit IRC 20:20:48 *** juzza1 has joined #openttd 20:20:49 *** TheMask96 has joined #openttd 20:21:02 *** tokai has joined #openttd 20:21:02 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 20:21:17 *** Gja has joined #openttd 20:24:58 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 20:26:13 *** guru3 has joined #openttd 20:26:44 *** iSoSyS has quit IRC 20:28:44 *** john-aj has joined #openttd 20:28:44 *** Borg has joined #openttd 20:33:25 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 20:51:39 *** ZexaronS has joined #openttd 20:58:53 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 21:05:54 *** Samu has quit IRC 21:21:00 *** Borg has quit IRC 21:21:45 *** Samu has joined #openttd 21:22:11 <Samu> LordAro: hi again, which one is easier for a noob like me? tortoisehg or tortoisegit? 21:24:11 <LordAro> that is a very good question 21:24:22 <LordAro> for ottd, it's almost entirely subjective 21:24:35 <LordAro> mercurial is probably on the easier side 21:24:37 <LordAro> probably 21:25:00 <Samu> mercurial? 21:25:08 <Samu> tortoisemercurial? 21:25:09 <LordAro> hg 21:25:21 <LordAro> you'll really want to do some reading first 21:25:29 <LordAro> as much as i know you're resistant to doing so 21:25:51 <Samu> oh Hg from chemistry 21:26:23 <Samu> yeah, reading kinda sucks, unless it goes straight to the point 21:26:54 <Samu> alright, installing tortoisehg, brb 21:29:09 <LordAro> turns out that learning involves knowing more than just very specific things 21:29:39 <Samu> do i need tortoisesvn installed prior? or it's standalone? 21:29:53 <Samu> whatever, i'm installing it 21:30:07 <Samu> if shit happens i can always restore 21:30:35 <LordAro> you don't even know what hg is, do you? 21:31:05 <Samu> something that let's me patch stuff better, i guess 21:31:05 <LordAro> seriously, just a cursory glance at some documentation would make things orders of magnitude easier for you 21:31:29 <supermop_work> this is taking me back to 2010 when i accidentally somehow fucked my registry by blindly installing tortoise stuff 21:31:38 <supermop_work> with no understanding 21:31:45 <LordAro> that does sound rather strange 21:32:13 <supermop_work> as the computer was 5 years old i eventually just bought a new computer, and last i checked, that laptop is still kind of fucked 21:32:22 <Samu> must restart windows, k brb 21:32:27 *** Samu has quit IRC 21:32:37 <LordAro> this is not going to go well for him 21:32:41 <LordAro> a guarantee it 21:32:52 <LordAro> ah well 21:33:25 <ST2> well, soon to expect an explosion of questions about hg xD 21:34:09 <supermop_work> well probably he wont go as far as needing to buy a new computer at least 21:34:20 *** Samu has joined #openttd 21:34:26 <Samu> re 21:36:16 <john-aj> mercurial is good, but for someone who doesn't seem to know what a version control system even is, i'd suppose that git is a better option, just because it's more popular 21:37:31 <john-aj> probably more documentation that's easier to grasp 21:38:58 *** Laedek_ has joined #openttd 21:39:44 <LordAro> yeah, could've gone either way really 21:41:12 <Samu> erm, apparently i need to clone something 21:42:10 *** Laedek has quit IRC 21:42:27 <Samu> alright, time to go read wtf tortoise hg is for 21:45:17 *** Supercheese has joined #openttd 21:50:01 <Samu> that's it, i have no idea what I just installed lol 21:50:28 <Samu> looks like i still need tortoise svn to download a repository? that I can clone with tortoise hg? 21:50:38 <Samu> am i saying something stupid? 21:50:43 <LordAro> not entirely 21:50:58 <LordAro> http://hg.openttd.org/trunk.hg/ try this instead 21:51:44 <Samu> how do i download that into my computer? 21:52:40 <Samu> ok gonna try 21:52:51 <LordAro> broadly similarly to how you "downloaded" the svn checkout onto your computer 21:53:05 <Samu> https://hg.openttd.org/trunk.hg/archive/tip.zip 21:53:13 <LordAro> no 21:53:16 *** andythenorth has left #openttd 21:53:50 <LordAro> https://www.mercurial-scm.org/wiki/QuickStart read this 21:53:55 <Samu> oki 21:54:01 <LordAro> http://tortoisehg.readthedocs.io/en/latest/quick.html then this 21:59:21 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 21:59:27 <Samu> alright, seems more complicated than i thought 22:01:49 <Samu> damn brazillian portuguese GARBAGE... 22:02:09 <Samu> i hate it when they default programs to my sys language 22:02:37 <LordAro> i'd imagine it's a reasonable default 22:03:47 <Samu> en is much more easier 22:04:18 *** chomwitt has quit IRC 22:07:25 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 22:07:45 <LordAro> Samu: well why not set it as your system language? 22:11:41 <Samu> i prefer my OS in portuguese, and some programs too, but not all, I don't like automatic decisions 22:12:33 *** Gja has quit IRC 22:21:18 <Samu> i'm at 4.4 here and failing http://tortoisehg.readthedocs.io/en/latest/quick.html 22:21:29 <Samu> what files? the directory is completely empty 22:22:58 <LordAro> Samu: ah, i see 22:22:59 <Samu> well i have 1 file only 22:23:04 <Samu> .hgignore 22:23:05 <LordAro> you've created a brand new repo 22:23:07 <Samu> it's the only file i find 22:23:19 <Samu> size: 0 22:23:24 <Samu> yse 22:23:33 <LordAro> whereas you (probably) want to copy the existing openttd repo 22:24:05 <LordAro> get rid of that folder, and skip ahead to 4.8 22:24:08 <LordAro> (then go back to 4.4) 22:24:13 <Samu> oh, so that's it, ok 22:25:24 <Samu> i knew i shouldn't have uninstalled tortoise svn 22:25:42 <Samu> I have no trunk 22:25:52 <Samu> i thought this thing would fetch it on its own 22:26:01 <LordAro> uninstalling tortoisesvn shouldn't have removed anything 22:26:08 <LordAro> besides, it can fetch on its own 22:26:14 <LordAro> the documentation is a little unclear there 22:26:26 <LordAro> (just use the trunk.hg url above instead of a path) 22:26:59 <Samu> https://hg.openttd.org/trunk.hg/ ? 22:27:02 <Samu> let's see 22:28:11 <Samu> ah, nice nice 22:28:15 <Samu> it's doing magic now 22:28:32 <Samu> a Clone directly from https://hg.openttd.org/trunk.hg/ 22:29:51 <Samu> wowah, this looks good 22:31:56 <Samu> what a welcoming message, a eints fix by me 22:31:59 <Samu> lel 22:32:35 <Samu> this is what I see so far 22:32:36 <Samu> https://imgur.com/abiCUyC 22:32:44 <Samu> now i go back to 4.4? 22:33:13 <LordAro> assuming you want to know how to add new files to the repo 22:33:27 <LordAro> i'd read the rest of the document before doing any more 22:36:21 *** Mahjong has joined #openttd 22:37:14 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 22:44:10 *** Progman has quit IRC 22:46:36 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 22:49:07 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 23:10:34 <Samu> do i still need tortoise svn? i'm slightly confused yet 23:11:24 *** alluke has quit IRC 23:11:42 <Samu> i can't apply patches anymore. guess i need tortoise svn after all 23:13:19 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 23:21:05 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 23:24:29 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 23:25:16 *** ToBeFree has joined #openttd 23:26:40 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 23:27:11 <Mahjong> how curious, I had to close my server so I saved it, then reloaded, and all my Z1s had another two carriages duplicated onto the end of them 23:28:42 <Eddi|zuHause> did you use autoreplace? 23:29:25 <Mahjong> might have been that actually come to think of it yeah 23:30:37 <Mahjong> I guess "wagon removal" needs to be on to keep it the same length 23:30:41 <Mahjong> I didn't see that aoption 23:31:14 <ST2> hooorray, Eddi|zuHause solved another case ;) 23:31:30 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 23:31:46 <Samu> hi 23:31:58 <Samu> do you tortoise hg? 23:31:59 <ST2> morning :) 23:32:05 <ST2> nah, SVN 23:32:12 <ST2> while it still works ^^ 23:32:20 <Samu> ok, i still dunno how to make this work 23:33:06 <ST2> we have our own repo's on BTPro, and all are SVN based, for years 23:34:10 <ST2> well, guess we took the "easy" way at the time xD 23:45:11 *** john-aj has quit IRC 23:48:01 <Samu> i fail at understanding the purpose of this program 23:49:09 <Samu> how do i delete a revision? 23:49:49 <Samu> i created a 22740 and a 22741, while openttd is still at 22739 23:49:59 <Samu> i just dont get this program 23:58:02 *** Biolunar has quit IRC 23:58:31 <LordAro> Samu: there are ways to delete revisions 23:58:39 <LordAro> what you've done is make a local commit 23:58:55 <LordAro> you can't make a remote commit, obviously, as you're not a dev 23:59:28 <LordAro> Samu: i'll give you a hint: the first result for googling "hg delete commit"