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10:17:22 *** chomwitt has joined #openttd 10:38:06 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 10:40:50 *** Samu_ has joined #openttd 10:42:21 <LordAro> andythenorth: rebase -i -> edit commits 10:52:41 <andythenorth> is this an accurate guide? https://gist.github.com/kale-stew/e13b3c3999e50b3fe9746f500552ebd7 10:53:51 <LordAro> andythenorth: possibly 10:54:01 <LordAro> in fact, yeah, that'll be fine 10:54:20 <LordAro> you can do rebase -i <source branch, probably master> to get all commits in that branch 10:57:59 <Samu_> dang, the amount of code I had to write to predict the airport type... 10:58:48 <andythenorth> I like git 10:59:18 <andythenorth> but it tends towards the high end of bureacracy 11:01:20 <andythenorth> will it preserve the original author during a rebase? 11:01:30 <andythenorth> this isn't my code 11:01:33 <LordAro> uh 11:01:35 <LordAro> maybe 11:06:44 <nielsm> I think it should yes 11:08:58 <andythenorth> I remember when code was all controlled as "foo_final_final.py" on a shared NAS 11:09:05 <andythenorth> seemed much easier tbh 11:54:02 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 11:54:03 *** synchris has joined #openttd 12:05:57 *** synchris has quit IRC 12:23:55 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 13:00:53 <Samu_> noob question 13:01:06 <Samu_> how do I transform a number into text? 13:01:29 <Samu_> example, airport of type 0, instead of saying 0, i wanted it to say small 13:14:51 <Samu_> nevermind, I figured it out, was easier than expected 13:19:37 *** IgnoredAmbience has left #openttd 13:28:41 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 13:44:51 *** ToBeFree has joined #openttd 13:47:55 <Samu_> there is a weird issue happening and I can't figure out why 13:48:23 <Samu_> the City Airport isn't available in the years 2020's somehow 13:48:29 <Samu_> wondering why 13:48:30 *** Thedarkb-T60 has joined #openttd 13:49:28 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] jottyfan opened issue #6894: destroy but keep land https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/6894 13:51:36 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 13:54:53 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 13:58:02 *** Mazur has quit IRC 13:59:44 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 14:05:00 *** lamuria_ has joined #openttd 14:06:41 *** Mazur has joined #openttd 14:10:37 <Eddi|zuHause> didn't we say github is not for feature requests? 14:22:31 <Samu_> when is metropolitan available 14:22:45 *** lamuria_ has quit IRC 14:23:33 <Samu_> im having an issue with rotating tried towns, damn me 14:23:43 <Samu_> won't be easy to fix this one 14:28:55 *** KouDy has quit IRC 14:44:54 *** KouDy has joined #openttd 14:50:06 *** Gja has joined #openttd 14:52:08 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 15:04:07 <andythenorth> o/ 15:09:22 <Samu_> when the metropolitan airport becomes available, the AI can't build city airports anymore? 15:09:45 <Samu_> or is it a bug with my script 15:09:47 <Samu_> ? 15:10:06 *** Thedarkb-T60 has quit IRC 15:10:17 <Samu_> something fishy is going on 15:15:47 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] szymex73 opened issue #6895: Wrong release version? https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/6895 15:16:28 <Wormnest> Several airport thypes expire yes, check the wiki which ones and when 15:26:53 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: there was a ticket earlier that i think you can close as invalid (feature request) 15:29:47 <andythenorth> https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/6894 ? 15:29:52 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah 15:30:51 <andythenorth> rationale? 15:32:55 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro commented on issue #6895: Wrong release version? https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/6895#issuecomment-419651517 15:33:46 <Samu_> there is a bug somewhere 15:33:56 <Samu_> suspect it's openttd itself 15:33:58 <LordAro> andythenorth: not current goal, probably 15:34:12 <Samu_> in 1979 the city airport is available for the ai 15:34:18 <LordAro> changing anything to do with how buying land works has always been rejected as it's always too open for abuse 15:34:28 <Samu_> in 1980, when metropolitan becomes available, the city is no longer available for the ai 15:34:33 <Samu_> but for human players it is 15:34:42 *** Gja has quit IRC 15:34:45 <Samu_> must investigate openttd code 15:35:27 <LordAro> that does sound weird 15:47:54 <Samu_> hmm nop, openttd code seems fine, then it must be my script, for some reason it can't detect the city airport as being available :( 15:50:52 *** ToBeFree has quit IRC 15:53:01 *** wodencafe has quit IRC 15:53:41 <Eddi|zuHause> making it difficult to buy land in bulk is sort of an anti-trust-law 15:53:49 *** wodencafe has joined #openttd 15:54:21 <Eddi|zuHause> also, from CONTRIBUTING.md: "Although we really appreciate feedback and ideas, we will close feature requests that we don't expect to fulfill in the next year." 15:54:31 *** wodencafe has quit IRC 16:00:08 *** KouDy has quit IRC 16:02:31 <LordAro> Eddi|zuHause: quick, close the NRT prq :p 16:03:06 <Eddi|zuHause> that isn't technically a "feature request" :p 16:07:47 <Samu_> i found the problem 16:08:06 <Samu_> both city and metropolitan have the same price 16:08:25 <Samu_> I was using price as the item index 16:08:38 <Samu_> so when metro became available, the city would poof 16:08:45 <Samu_> from my list 16:09:00 <Samu_> have to build this list in another manner :( 16:10:06 <andythenorth> NRT is dead 16:10:14 <Samu_> really? what happened? 16:10:22 <Eddi|zuHause> NRT is dead, long live NRT! 16:11:33 <andythenorth> it got crushed under the wheels of improvements 16:11:37 <andythenorth> this happens in software 16:12:30 <andythenorth> the build is dead due to compile farm 16:12:48 <andythenorth> and the feature is bit rotting, and won't ever move due to politics 16:12:57 <andythenorth> but eh, that's software :) 16:14:50 *** Flygon has quit IRC 16:26:18 <Samu_> problem solved, it was my code, :p 16:26:20 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 16:31:07 *** wodencafe has joined #openttd 16:35:32 *** cboyd_ has joined #openttd 16:39:19 *** wodencafe has quit IRC 16:41:07 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: if houses had two (or more) production levels... 16:41:14 <andythenorth> one an initial trickle level 16:41:26 <andythenorth> the other depends on passengers delivered to town in last month 16:41:27 <Eddi|zuHause> what would that solve? 16:41:41 <andythenorth> we'd get a different kind of network flooding 16:41:54 <andythenorth> it would have differing levels of flood 16:47:14 <Eddi|zuHause> did we even solve the quadratic passenger generation yet? 16:47:27 <Eddi|zuHause> that's like a one-line patch 16:54:16 <andythenorth> we solved a lot recently 16:54:21 <andythenorth> but probs not that 16:54:25 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 16:56:57 *** KouDy has joined #openttd 17:03:07 *** cboyd_ has quit IRC 17:03:47 *** KouDy has quit IRC 17:07:55 *** Gja has joined #openttd 17:10:03 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 17:20:57 <peter1138> Eddi|zuHause, is the patch on github? 17:21:21 <Eddi|zuHause> dunno if anybody even wrote that patch 17:21:33 <peter1138> You seem to know what the patch contains. 17:22:17 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, removing one of the two "chance(1 out of x)" lines 17:22:41 *** Maraxus has joined #openttd 17:23:26 <andythenorth> oof 17:23:32 <andythenorth> now that NRT is dead, could we ship it? 17:29:48 <LordAro> Eddi|zuHause: can you point to it? 17:38:14 <andythenorth> I can't find it in an issue 17:38:56 <andythenorth> it's not this is it https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/6777 17:46:10 <peter1138> It's a classic case of Somebody(tm) should do it. 17:55:28 <andythenorth> classic 18:07:09 *** tokai has joined #openttd 18:07:09 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 18:09:59 <LordAro> peter1138: you should do it 18:14:05 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC 18:14:08 *** Maraxus has quit IRC 18:15:56 <peter1138> What, approve NRT? :p 18:18:15 *** wodencafe has joined #openttd 18:18:54 <andythenorth> add it as a feature branch :P 18:26:56 *** Wacko1976 has joined #openttd 18:29:41 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 18:30:37 *** Gja has quit IRC 18:42:01 *** KouDy has joined #openttd 18:42:06 <Samu_> these large with small with heli combinations are so confusing 18:42:26 <Samu_> i'm trying to make everything work in an intelligent manner 18:42:33 <Samu_> but I get lost in my thoughts 18:43:56 <Samu_> i can make a route for a small aeroplane by using large airports... sounds easy when said 18:44:07 <Samu_> but dealing with it in the code is so confusing 18:44:26 <Samu_> I get lost 19:05:43 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 19:23:33 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: no, it's not that 19:24:51 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 19:49:55 <Samu_> I'm gonna stop thinking 19:51:36 <Samu_> the way it's working right now is not perfect, I know there could be some more airport / aircraft / pair combinations, but the way it works right now is not that bad to tell the truth 19:52:19 <Samu_> it's just doesn't account all possible cases 19:52:29 <Samu_> all possible combinations, but ... meh 19:54:15 <Samu_> the tried Towns recycling isn't perfect either 19:54:57 <Samu_> but at least it will handle all available towns one way or another, just not in an intelligent manner 19:57:32 <Samu_> what shall I name the AI if I'm to upload it to bananas? 19:57:47 <andythenorth> samu AI 19:58:07 <Samu_> it's based on LuDiAI 19:58:33 <Samu_> i picked it up and started adding code to it, initially was supposed to be only fixes, but now it's something more 19:59:22 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 19:59:40 <Samu_> it's current name is LuDiAI AfterFix, is that a bad name? 20:00:28 <Samu_> since it was based on it, i thought it fair to name as such, but if that could bring me trouble, I wanna avoid it 20:03:54 <LordAro> i'd say just adding "after fix" on the end of it could cause more trouble 20:04:11 <LordAro> come up with something that has lud/ludi/whatever in its name 20:04:15 <LordAro> imo 20:08:15 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 20:08:49 <Samu_> Samu AI? 20:08:56 <Samu_> LuDiSamu 20:09:00 <Samu_> LuSa 20:09:31 <LordAro> you can do whatever you want :p 20:10:07 <Samu_> Samu's LuDi? 20:10:11 <Samu_> Samu's LuDiAI 20:11:56 <Samu_> LuDSa 20:12:05 <Samu_> SaLu 20:12:20 <Samu_> SaLuDiAI 20:13:37 <Samu_> Wormnest: give me ideas ! 20:14:22 <Samu_> LuDiAI license is gpl 2.0 20:14:35 <Samu_> it imports roadpathfinder.3 library 20:15:05 <Samu_> it has a copy paste of WrightAI into it as well 20:15:09 <Samu_> I have heavily modified it 20:15:49 <Samu_> what was wrightAI / roadpathfinder licenses? 20:16:07 <Samu_> oh, road pathfinder also imports graphaystar 20:16:19 <Samu_> do all licenses must be compatible with each other? 20:16:47 <LordAro> they do, but i'm pretty sure everything is gpl2 20:20:22 <Samu_> oh, gnu license version 2 20:20:34 <Samu_> gnu general public license 20:28:40 *** gelignite has quit IRC 20:30:51 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 20:30:58 <andythenorth> someone should do shunting 20:31:04 <andythenorth> so I can drop wagons off for loading 20:34:34 <Eddi|zuHause> someone did that 20:56:50 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 21:14:20 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 21:30:30 *** Mazur has quit IRC 21:43:31 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 21:45:50 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 21:51:19 *** Mazur has joined #openttd 22:01:20 *** nielsm has quit IRC 22:12:36 *** glx has joined #openttd 22:12:36 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 22:19:35 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 22:33:36 *** iSoSyS has quit IRC 22:38:11 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 22:39:57 *** Wacko1976 has quit IRC 22:42:30 *** KouDy has quit IRC 22:45:21 *** Mazur has quit IRC 22:55:29 <Samu_> guys 22:55:52 <Samu_> how do I get the base maintenance cost of an airport piece 22:56:23 <Samu_> i know it depends on a factor, but there is a base it's being based off 22:56:31 <Samu_> how do I get it? 22:58:36 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 23:21:38 *** KouDy has joined #openttd 23:29:10 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rofl0r opened issue #6896: game crashes on first autosave if compiled without lzo but with lzma https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/6896 23:30:46 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rofl0r commented on issue #6896: game crashes on first autosave if compiled without lzo but with lzma https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/6896#issuecomment-419679746 23:41:53 *** KouDy has quit IRC 23:44:10 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC