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agentw4b has joined #openttd 07:27:17 *** Mahjong1 has joined #openttd 07:29:22 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 07:34:48 *** Mahjong has quit IRC 07:51:16 <andythenorth> so when did TE get nerfed? 07:51:55 <andythenorth> @calc 221/225 07:51:56 <DorpsGek> andythenorth: 0.982222222222 07:52:39 <andythenorth> the TE shown in buy menu is not the same as TE when engine is built 07:52:50 <Eddi|zuHause> nobody changed TE in ages 07:53:14 <Eddi|zuHause> SI units? 07:54:27 <andythenorth> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/9128/TE-nerfed.png 07:54:27 <Eddi|zuHause> when designing CETS i had this odd feeling that it applied factor of 10 and 9.81 in random places that didn't quite feel consistent 07:54:37 <andythenorth> it's reproducible with default trains 07:54:44 <andythenorth> 1.8.0-RC1 doesn't do it 07:54:49 <andythenorth> self-compiled master does 07:55:47 <andythenorth> and 9.81 looks about right for the factor 07:59:10 *** OtakuSenpai has joined #openttd 08:01:22 <Eddi|zuHause> so, what happens if you change the display units? 08:02:16 <Eddi|zuHause> also, who invented the word "nerfed"? 08:04:26 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 08:08:02 *** Supercheese has quit IRC 08:24:55 *** Nawab has joined #openttd 08:24:55 *** OtakuSenpai has quit IRC 08:31:16 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 08:39:58 <Wolf01> So, if you want me to fix things guide me on how to set up this thing :P 08:42:25 <Wolf01> 1) How to get a working NRT repo updated to the latest NRT changes (I might get peter's patch to work, I don't know why it doesn't work) 08:42:25 <Wolf01> 2) The exact commands to sync it with trunk (I'm REALLY lost here) 08:43:01 <nielsm> start by cloning the main ottd repository 08:43:19 <nielsm> then add the forked repos containing the PR branch as a remote 08:43:37 <Wolf01> I already have that, the problem is: I'll need sub-branches for NRT, is that possible? 08:43:38 <nielsm> fetch that remote, and checkout the PR branch from it 08:44:05 <nielsm> and with that done, you can rebase the NRT changes onto the current master head 08:44:25 <nielsm> is what I would do 08:47:56 <nielsm> iirc the sequence would be like this: https://0x0.st/sY8U.txt 08:48:17 <LordAro> subbranches are just branches taken from another branch 08:48:28 <LordAro> they're not really a thing :) 08:48:36 <Wolf01> So he had nrt-block too 08:48:41 <LordAro> (given subbranches are just branches) 08:49:11 *** Nawab has quit IRC 08:49:14 <andythenorth> bbl 08:49:15 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 09:05:35 <Wolf01> wolfolo@Wolf01:~/Progetti/OpenTTD/andythenorth-nrt-block$ git checkout andy/nrt-block 09:05:35 <Wolf01> error: pathspec 'andy/nrt-block' did not match any file(s) known to git. 09:05:38 <Wolf01> :S 09:06:10 <Wolf01> I added the remote succesfully 09:07:38 <Wolf01> wolfolo@Wolf01:~/Progetti/OpenTTD/andythenorth-nrt-block$ git remote -v 09:07:39 <Wolf01> andy https://github.com/andythenorth/OpenTTD.git (fetch) 09:07:39 <Wolf01> andy https://github.com/andythenorth/OpenTTD.git (push) 09:07:39 <Wolf01> origin https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD.git (fetch) 09:07:39 <Wolf01> origin https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD.git (push) 09:07:51 <michi_cc> git fetch andy 09:08:43 <Wolf01> Good 09:09:16 <Wolf01> Let's see if compiles 09:19:13 <Wolf01> Mmmh, still same error as peter's one, it doesn't load any newgrf 09:19:24 <Wolf01> Not even the bananas ones 09:19:46 <Wolf01> "matching file not found" 09:21:09 <Wolf01> I put them in the bin folder like all the other repos, and the cfg too 09:27:00 <Wolf01> IIRC this was the reason I stopped trying 09:36:28 <Eddi|zuHause> did you cd into the bin folder? 09:37:08 <Wolf01> I'm running it from VS 09:37:12 <Wolf01> Like... always 09:38:13 <Eddi|zuHause> and master works that way? 09:38:23 <Wolf01> Didn't try 09:54:43 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 09:54:44 <Wolf01> Mmmh, trunk seems fine 09:55:30 <Eddi|zuHause> i think the error message is spurious, and results from a previous error that was hidden/ignored 09:56:20 <Wolf01> Something fishy changed 09:56:29 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: changing the TE units, the discrepancy is still present 09:57:52 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: so either one place forgot to apply the 9.81 factor or the other place applied it twice 09:58:08 <andythenorth> I can go through commits and try to isolate it 09:58:20 <Eddi|zuHause> that might help 09:58:21 <andythenorth> is there *any* chance it's compile specific? 09:58:28 <Eddi|zuHause> unlikely 09:58:30 <andythenorth> can anyone else repro it? 10:00:32 <Eddi|zuHause> seems to also appear here 10:00:40 <Eddi|zuHause> with whatever i compiled last 10:01:38 <andythenorth> well it's not in 1.8.0-RC1 10:02:31 <Eddi|zuHause> great, then you have a start for a bisection 10:02:51 <andythenorth> I am limited because I can only compile with LordAro's branch 10:03:03 <andythenorth> I'd have to backport patches to trunk to compile it 10:03:15 <andythenorth> currently reading commits looking for anything obvious 10:03:28 <Eddi|zuHause> but that's only a makefile patch? 10:03:38 <Eddi|zuHause> can just apply that to whatever you check out 10:03:49 <andythenorth> yes, it's just a configure patch 10:04:07 <andythenorth> I would probably test this one first :P 10:04:08 <andythenorth> https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/commit/cad47bbefe5007a4d6c4e02b2cbc6f69484475f7 10:05:01 <Eddi|zuHause> right, that points to version 1 of the error (forgot change in other place) 10:07:19 <Wolf01> BTW, I think is there something fishy on my OTTD repo, even VS can't find includes but it loads them 10:07:34 <Wolf01> Maybe it's because I'm using WSL 10:08:11 <Eddi|zuHause> can't help you with that 10:08:27 <Eddi|zuHause> case sensitive? symlink? 10:08:52 <Wolf01> Probably 10:09:32 <andythenorth> so TE is correct in both cases for rev preceeding cad47bbefe5007a4d6c4e02b2cbc6f69484475f7 10:09:37 <andythenorth> https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/commit/cad47bbefe5007a4d6c4e02b2cbc6f69484475f7 10:09:47 <Eddi|zuHause> no 10:09:56 <Eddi|zuHause> it's consistent, but not correct :p 10:10:00 <andythenorth> oh yes 10:10:12 <andythenorth> TE is consistently wrong in both places for that rev :P 10:10:29 <Eddi|zuHause> just look for the buy menu calculation, and apply the 10->9.8 factor change there too 10:11:02 <Eddi|zuHause> possibly refactor it so both use the same global constant 10:13:55 <andythenorth> I was hoping I could file a ticket and peter1138 would fix it :P 10:17:07 <andythenorth> https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/6920 10:17:14 <Wolf01> I'll try cloning direclty from andy's with VS 10:20:28 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: "uint Engine::GetDisplayMaxTractiveEffort() const" in src/engine.cpp 10:20:43 *** chomwitt has joined #openttd 10:21:44 * andythenorth testing 10:21:52 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: the "10*..." must be changed into "9800* ... /1000" or something like that 10:22:10 <andythenorth> 9.8 will have integer maths problems? 10:22:14 <Eddi|zuHause> yes 10:22:48 <Eddi|zuHause> ... and then the 9800 moved to some header file as a constant 10:23:02 <andythenorth> above my pay grade :P 10:23:19 <andythenorth> but function is the cause and fix of the issue 10:27:25 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: you could get a checkout and write a patch? o_O 10:30:13 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 10:31:47 <Eddi|zuHause> ... below my paygrade :p 10:32:20 *** Thedarkb-T60 has quit IRC 10:32:56 *** Thedarkb-T60 has joined #openttd 10:33:29 <Wolf01> Ok, cloning with VS worked 10:33:36 <Wolf01> So there's something fishy with WSL 10:41:44 *** OtakuSenpai has joined #openttd 10:46:22 <Wolf01> So, I cloned andy's repo and compiled nrt-block and IT WORKS. Now, I need to get those nasty conflicts fixed, how should I proceed? 10:48:13 <nielsm> one way to make conflict resolution easier is to rebase onto the new head in smaller steps 10:48:32 <nielsm> e.g. rebase 10 revisions of master forward at a time 10:48:45 <nielsm> (or fewer in case there are lots of big changes getting merged) 10:49:17 <nielsm> you'd need to rebase onto revision hashes instead of named branches/tags in that case 10:50:02 <nielsm> or well, you could actually go ahead and mark your intended rebase targets with branch or tag names 10:50:28 <nielsm> to make them easier to identify, stick to a plan, and keep track of progress 10:50:52 <Wolf01> Wow... 10:52:13 <Eddi|zuHause> https://paste.openttdcoop.org/pzhptiu3b <-- for #6920 10:52:32 <Wolf01> Mmmh, Cannot rebase: you have unstaged changes.. I don't 10:52:40 <nielsm> ask "git status" 10:52:55 <Wolf01> Oh fuck, it tracks changing of branch as changes 10:53:19 <nielsm> hm it shouldn't 10:54:04 <Wolf01> Nothing that a hard reset can't resolve 10:56:03 <Wolf01> Meh, I did the opposite, I'm removing NRT from trunk 11:22:12 <Eddi|zuHause> ok, i bit the dust and created a stupid github account 11:22:29 <Wolf01> :D 11:22:32 <Eddi|zuHause> anyone want to walk me through what to do to make a pull request? 11:22:50 <nielsm> fork openttd to your own account 11:23:02 <nielsm> pull from your own fork into your local repos 11:23:03 <Wolf01> Ahahaha, I don't know either... or at least I do because I used them for merges 11:23:12 <nielsm> push your own branch to your own forked repos 11:23:30 <nielsm> go to github website on your own repos or main repos, it'll show a suggestion to create at PR from your branch 11:25:16 *** Thedarkb-T60 has quit IRC 11:28:22 *** ToBeFree has joined #openttd 11:28:36 <Eddi|zuHause> that is so very incomplete description... 11:29:01 *** ToBeFree has quit IRC 11:30:54 <nielsm> step 1: fork https://0x0.st/sYK_.png 11:31:07 <Eddi|zuHause> i did that 11:31:25 <nielsm> clone your own: https://0x0.st/sYKL.png 11:31:39 <nielsm> or add it as a remote on an existing clone 11:31:52 <Eddi|zuHause> that last one i need 11:32:17 <Wolf01> Mmmh, rebase for me is mythical stuff, couldn't I do it with merge instead? :D 11:32:18 <nielsm> git remote add eddi git@github.com:eddiorwhatever/OpenTTD.git 11:32:31 <nielsm> then push your branch to your own remote: 11:32:54 <nielsm> git push -u eddi mybranch 11:33:27 <nielsm> the -u sets your own remote as the default upstream push target 11:33:39 <nielsm> so you afterwards just can 'git push' with no further parameters 11:37:30 <Eddi|zuHause> so, i pushed... how do i proceed now? 11:37:37 <nielsm> gi back to the website 11:37:42 <nielsm> on your own fork 11:37:55 <nielsm> it should show a bar suggesting you make a PR 11:38:40 <Eddi|zuHause> not seeing anything 11:40:11 <LordAro> osht, eddi on gh 11:40:14 <Eddi|zuHause> i see it got my new branch 11:40:20 <Eddi|zuHause> but not any changes...? 11:40:58 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 11:41:00 <Eddi|zuHause> uh even worse, it made the commit to master, not the branch i created 11:41:17 <Eddi|zuHause> and of course it didn't push that 11:41:22 <Eddi|zuHause> when i pushed the branch 11:43:15 <Wolf01> andythenorth: I only get 1 conflict on npf.cpp is that right? 11:43:45 <andythenorth> Wolf01: against upstream master? 11:43:49 <Wolf01> Yes 11:43:52 <andythenorth> I will get a checkout and try 11:43:57 <andythenorth> hmm what does GH say :P 11:44:01 * andythenorth looks 11:45:19 <Eddi|zuHause> https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/6921 so i hope that worked 11:46:47 <Wolf01> Also only a single if condition was slightly changed and caused a conflict 11:46:49 <Eddi|zuHause> ugh, it barfs on the commit message... so how do i rewrite that? 11:47:09 <andythenorth> Wolf01: these are mine https://paste.openttdcoop.org/p7vs2u9ex/tb26uc/raw 11:47:21 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: sometimes git commit --amend is safe 11:47:29 <andythenorth> but probably you have to rebase -i :| 11:47:32 <andythenorth> then force push 11:47:56 <andythenorth> I can't advise, I have to look up how to do it every time 11:49:30 <Eddi|zuHause> also, why is my avatar a red creeper? 11:49:49 <andythenorth> Wolf01: to answer the original q, I only get one conflict within npf.cpp 11:49:56 <andythenorth> but there are the others of course :) 11:56:00 <Eddi|zuHause> so... regression test must update 11:56:16 <Wolf01> Mmmh, I think my remote didn't fetch the correct stuff, I got stuff from 3 months ago 11:56:57 <Wolf01> Because I had a rogue ( in opf_ship.cpp and that was part of a commit 3 months ago 11:57:36 <andythenorth> is it setup as it says in CONTRIBUTING.MD? 11:57:39 <andythenorth> o_O 11:59:20 <Wolf01> No, it's the automatic rebase which breaks stuff 11:59:24 <Wolf01> Fuck 11:59:55 <Wolf01> It seem like it isn't able to replay all the commits 12:00:07 <andythenorth> :| 12:00:38 <Wolf01> I don't have other options 12:00:56 <Wolf01> I should do it from CLI, but it seem to break the repo 12:01:49 <Wolf01> Merge instead works and shows the right conflicts, but you said merge is evil 12:05:05 <Eddi|zuHause> seems i also broke TE calculation for RV 12:05:08 <Eddi|zuHause> not sure why 12:06:15 <andythenorth> Wolf01: I don't know if merge is evil 12:06:20 <Eddi|zuHause> ah, found it 12:06:26 <andythenorth> I just follow instructions in CONTRIBUTING.MD 12:06:34 <andythenorth> then I don't get sadface from other people 12:09:13 *** hph^ has joined #openttd 12:12:00 <Wolf01> I think it's the case to move roadtypes to m8... 12:13:50 <Eddi|zuHause> was it a bad idea to force update the pr while it was still building? 12:13:55 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 12:15:03 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: 'probably fine' 12:15:21 *** Wacko1976 has joined #openttd 12:19:50 *** Maraxus has joined #openttd 12:24:22 *** Maraxus has quit IRC 12:25:56 *** hph^ has quit IRC 12:26:32 *** hph^ has joined #openttd 12:27:21 *** Progman has quit IRC 12:27:33 <Eddi|zuHause> "ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'Image'" what am i missing? i have pillow installed, i think 12:28:46 <Eddi|zuHause> ah, only for python2, not python3 12:31:47 <Eddi|zuHause> "grfcodec: error while loading shared libraries: libpng12.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" great... next? 12:33:29 <andythenorth> never seen that :o 12:34:04 <andythenorth> what OS? 12:34:10 <Eddi|zuHause> means my grfcodec was built for an older os 12:35:38 *** Wacko1976 has quit IRC 12:37:03 <Wolf01> Ok, need to review a bit the documentation but the code should be ok 12:37:44 <Eddi|zuHause> > make 12:37:45 <Eddi|zuHause> make: *** Keine Regel vorhanden, um das Ziel „/usr/include/libpng12/png.h“, 12:37:47 <Eddi|zuHause> benötigt von „objs/pngsprit.o“, zu erstellen. Schluss. 12:37:57 <Eddi|zuHause> why would it try libpng12 when i have libpng16? 12:39:22 <Eddi|zuHause> > libpng-config --cflags 12:39:23 <Eddi|zuHause> -I/usr/include/libpng16 12:40:49 <Eddi|zuHause> seems i needed a make clean 12:42:07 <Eddi|zuHause> src/pseudo.cpp:719:100: error: no match for ‘operator<’ (operand types are ‘std::_Bind_helper<false, long unsigned int (std::vector<std::__cxx11::basic_string<char>, std::allocator<std::__cxx11::basic_string<char> > >::*)() const noexcept, const boost::lambda::lambda_functor<boost::lambda::placeholder<1> >&>::type {aka std::_Bind<long unsigned int (std::vector<std::__cxx11::basic_string<char>, std::allocator<std::__cxx11::basic_ 12:42:09 <Eddi|zuHause> string<char> > >::*(boost::lambda::lambda_functor<boost::lambda::placeholder<1> >))() const noexcept>}’ and ‘std::_Bind_helper<false, long unsigned int (std::vector<std::__cxx11::basic_string<char>, std::allocator<std::__cxx11::basic_string<char> > >::*)() const noexcept, const boost::lambda::lambda_functor<boost::lambda::placeholder<2> >&>::type {aka std::_Bind<long unsigned int (std::vector<std::__cxx11::basic_string<char>, std:: 12:42:10 <Eddi|zuHause> allocator<std::__cxx11::basic_string<char> > >::*(boost::lambda::lambda_functor<boost::lambda::placeholder<2> >))() const noexcept>}’) 12:42:12 <Eddi|zuHause> uint columns = (uint)max_element(sections.begin(),sections.end(), bind(&vector<string>::size,_1) < bind(&vector<string>::size,_2))->size(); 12:42:13 <Eddi|zuHause> uhm what? 12:42:32 <Eddi|zuHause> anyone built grfcodec lately? 12:43:58 * andythenorth tries 12:44:26 <Wolf01> https://github.com/Wolfolo/OpenTTD/tree/nrt-block <- andythenorth 12:44:32 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: sorry, grfcodec builds for me :( 12:44:40 <andythenorth> rev 994 12:45:01 <andythenorth> Wolf01: o_O 12:45:07 <Wolf01> Now I'll go back to do nothing for 6 months 12:45:28 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe i should try updating first :p 12:45:42 <Wolf01> This stuff of getting things done with git gave me a headache 12:46:06 <Eddi|zuHause> loads of warnings still, but it builds 12:46:29 <michi_cc> andythenorth: Is PR#9620 doing what you expect? 12:48:26 <michi_cc> 6920 of course :) 12:48:45 <andythenorth> haven't tested it yet :) 12:48:59 <andythenorth> switching between too many repos right now :P 12:54:26 <Eddi|zuHause> ok, so how do i suppress this "libpng warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile"? 12:56:35 <andythenorth> you can't :( 12:56:41 <andythenorth> you can strip the sRGB profiles 12:56:45 <andythenorth> but they come back 12:58:08 <Eddi|zuHause> i think my makefile is broken https://paste.openttdcoop.org/pxzds7nbt 13:05:48 <Eddi|zuHause> "UNIX2DOS_FLAGS ?= $(shell [ -n $(UNIX2DOS) ] && $(UNIX2DOS) -q --version 2>/dev/null && echo "-q" || echo "")" <-- how did this ever work? 13:07:29 <andythenorth> well did it? o_O 13:08:04 *** tokai has joined #openttd 13:08:04 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 13:08:42 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm not even sure what it's meant to do... it tries to call "unix2dos -q", and hopes that doesn't actually output a thing? 13:09:01 <andythenorth> is this the old coop makefile? o_O 13:09:05 <Eddi|zuHause> yes 13:09:26 <andythenorth> iirc, pm decided that was too complex 13:09:29 <Eddi|zuHause> i was trying to update CETS with new TE calculation 13:09:55 <andythenorth> CC=clang CXX=clang++ CXXFLAGS=-std=c++11 LDFLAGS="-liconv" ./configure 13:09:58 <andythenorth> https://xkcd.com/349/ 13:09:58 <Eddi|zuHause> anyway, adding >/dev/null there works 13:10:00 <andythenorth> wrong paste 13:10:19 <Eddi|zuHause> not quite that bad :p 13:13:03 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm assuming coop build process is still broken? 13:13:21 <andythenorth> not last time I checked 13:13:25 <andythenorth> frosch fixed it 13:13:31 <andythenorth> https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/ 13:13:40 <andythenorth> CETS is broken though :) https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/cets/ 13:14:43 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, last time i checked it's trying to use regular nml instead of eddi-nml like it's supposed to 13:15:03 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC 13:15:55 <Eddi|zuHause> 13:12:46 [NML] src/headers.nfo 13:15:57 <Eddi|zuHause> 13:12:49 Usage: nmlc [options] <filename> 13:16:02 <Eddi|zuHause> that doesn't sound right 13:17:12 <Eddi|zuHause> 13:12:49 nmlc: error: no such option: --verbosity 13:17:16 <Eddi|zuHause> uh why? 13:18:26 <Eddi|zuHause> 13:12:35 + make NML=/var/lib/jenkins/bin/repos/nml-eddi/nmlc 13:18:33 <Eddi|zuHause> so nml should be the correct one now 13:18:44 <Eddi|zuHause> but why is it different than my local build? 13:20:02 <Eddi|zuHause> --verbosity=<level> Set the verbosity level for informational output. 13:20:04 <Eddi|zuHause> [default: 3, max: 4] 13:20:35 <Eddi|zuHause> makefile is trying to set --verbosity=1 13:23:12 <Eddi|zuHause> https://jenkins.openttdcoop.org/job/eddi-nml/24/console <-- uhm, why the fuck is it trying to execute "wine pythonw.exe"? 13:23:14 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 13:26:13 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 13:26:20 <andythenorth> michi_cc: https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/6921 updated, wfm 13:26:33 *** synchris has joined #openttd 13:28:08 <Eddi|zuHause> can i trigger a rebuild without pushing anything? 13:30:08 <andythenorth> you can if you're logged into jenkins 13:30:15 <andythenorth> however the login appears to be broken 13:30:15 <andythenorth> so eh 13:31:01 <Eddi|zuHause> do i have a login there? 13:31:30 <andythenorth> it's supposed to be same as devzone 13:31:42 *** hph^ has quit IRC 13:31:53 <Eddi|zuHause> well that didn't work... 13:32:07 <Eddi|zuHause> and i checked on devzone 13:33:53 <andythenorth> could ask ^Spike^ 13:34:16 <andythenorth> I am logged into devzone fine, but jenkins says my creds are invalid 13:37:29 * andythenorth biab 13:37:32 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 13:39:11 *** Samu has joined #openttd 13:48:11 *** hph^ has joined #openttd 14:00:01 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 14:11:07 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 14:20:26 <Samu> heh, a slower pathfinder has immediate drawbacks https://www.tt-forums.net/download/file.php?id=205632 14:20:43 <Samu> the ai used to be at the top :( 14:22:43 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 14:40:15 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 14:41:29 <Eddi|zuHause> all these new gdpr questions makes it even more impossible to browse random websites without javascript :/ 14:44:42 <andythenorth> :x 14:47:24 *** Wacko1976 has joined #openttd 14:50:06 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, so life is strange:before the storm came out on linux a few weeks ago, but that means it lost my savegame from the windows version i played before 14:55:02 *** hph^ has quit IRC 14:57:53 <Samu> I feel like doing an AI competition 14:58:12 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 14:58:25 <Samu> for 1.8.0, unless you have planned a 1.8.1 in sight 14:58:50 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 14:58:51 <Samu> then i'll wait 14:59:10 <nielsm> I don't think there's any changes suitable for a 1.8.1 that can't wait until a 1.9 14:59:22 <nielsm> of what's currently in 15:01:10 <Samu> i'd like to invite someone else to give me an openttd config for the competition 15:01:17 <Samu> instead of being me 15:02:20 <Samu> i'm a bit biased 15:02:40 <andythenorth> nielsm: well we need newgrf docks for 1.9 :P 15:02:44 <Samu> like, i've never use newgrfs 15:02:48 * andythenorth just mentions it 15:03:28 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 15:04:19 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 15:05:53 <Eddi|zuHause> so... savegame copied 15:08:09 <Samu> unsure about doing 100 year long competitions 15:08:36 <Samu> my system hasn't been stable, wouldn't like to risk it 15:08:51 <Samu> these past few days it's been doing alright, though, heh... 15:11:27 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 15:11:45 *** hph^ has joined #openttd 15:12:03 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 15:17:07 <andythenorth> mmm 15:17:23 <andythenorth> seems that Iron Horse engines were very finely balanced wrt TE :P 15:17:29 <andythenorth> now they are all a bit nerfed 15:18:00 *** Progman has joined #openttd 15:18:06 *** snail_UES_ has joined #openttd 15:22:42 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 15:22:59 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 15:29:18 *** OtakuSenpai has quit IRC 15:29:40 *** OtakuSenpai has joined #openttd 15:35:23 *** Flygon has quit IRC 15:44:12 <snail_UES_> anyone would care to add translations to the French NG set? 15:44:25 <snail_UES_> it’s complete and I’m planning to release it in the next few weeks... 15:44:37 <andythenorth> complete :o 15:44:38 <andythenorth> :) 15:44:48 <andythenorth> that's a big result snail_UES_ 15:44:50 <andythenorth> it has been years :) 15:44:54 <snail_UES_> haha yeah 15:45:11 <snail_UES_> I started using m4nfo in around 2010... 15:45:26 <snail_UES_> been drawing since 2005 :D 15:46:13 <snail_UES_> so far I’ve only got French and Italian, plus a few strings in German and Dutch … 15:46:22 <snail_UES_> anything more would be much appreciated ;) 15:48:52 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 15:49:17 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 15:51:40 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: nothing you couldn't fix with a simple factor over all vehicles 15:53:30 <andythenorth> I'm not sure if it's set wide 15:54:03 <andythenorth> the later generation wagons are each 1-2t heavier than when I first balanced the set 15:54:09 <andythenorth> and have 2-4t more cargo 15:54:19 <andythenorth> and for 10-20 wagons I think it makes just enough difference 16:04:16 <Eddi|zuHause> well, what you call "nerf" is just a linear factor, it can be offset by the inverse factor 16:07:11 <Eddi|zuHause> snail_UES_: thought about using eints for translations? (no idea if there is anyone around that could set that up, though. probably needs some adaptation for m4nfo as well) 16:07:40 <snail_UES_> yes, I don’t know how to make it work with m4nfo 16:07:57 <snail_UES_> so I’m just writing a TXT file and asking some good soul to translate it for me :) 16:08:29 <Eddi|zuHause> i can't imagine it being too complicated to adapt eints to your file format, or the other way around... 16:09:18 <snail_UES_> hmm, what kind of file does eints need? is there any documentation? 16:09:36 <Eddi|zuHause> let's start with what kind of file you have? 16:10:06 <snail_UES_> a simple TXT file with text in quotes (“”) in English 16:11:08 <Eddi|zuHause> NML's text file format is fairly close to the openttd format, so you have each line consisting of "STR_IDENTIFIER :sometextthatneedstranslating" 16:11:36 <snail_UES_> without quotes? 16:11:42 <Eddi|zuHause> without quotes 16:11:51 <snail_UES_> STR_0001: this is the first line of text 16:11:55 <snail_UES_> ^^ like this? 16:12:10 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, just the space between the : and the text would count towards the text 16:12:37 <snail_UES_> STR_0001 :this is the first line of text 16:12:46 <Eddi|zuHause> so usually you would have "STR_WHATEVER[anynumberofspaceshere]:[nospacehere]text" 16:13:17 <Eddi|zuHause> for extra prettyness, the : would be aligned in one column [using fixed-width-text] 16:13:24 <snail_UES_> right... 16:14:21 <snail_UES_> it’d be fairly easy for me to make a file like that. Then I need to set eints up? 16:14:33 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: I've applied a linear factor, per generation :P 16:14:34 <Eddi|zuHause> if all you have is vehicle names, that should be everything you need. if you have more complicated stuff, you need to support string parameters and cases and stuff 16:15:04 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: ok, but that has nothing to do with the alledged "nerf" 16:15:10 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 16:15:29 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 16:16:37 <frosch123> snail_UES_: isr uses eints and some scripts to provide translations for an nfo grf 16:17:28 <snail_UES_> some of my text is a bit complex, although I don’t think I need cases... 16:17:33 <frosch123> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/isr/repository/entry/scripts/lang_nml2nfo.py 16:18:43 <Eddi|zuHause> i remember in ancient times when i introduced genders into NFO-FIRS 16:18:58 *** OtakuSenpai has quit IRC 16:19:21 *** hph^ has quit IRC 16:19:25 <snail_UES_> looking at the code now… 16:19:30 <andythenorth> we should switch back to nfo 16:19:32 <andythenorth> I miss it 16:19:40 <Eddi|zuHause> but whatever specials you need, it should be a fairly simple 1:1 conversion 16:19:51 <frosch123> andythenorth: chips :) 16:19:51 <snail_UES_> I’d have to install python :p 16:20:01 <andythenorth> not for nfo 16:20:25 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm pretty sure you could teach m4 to do that :p 16:20:45 <snail_UES_> right... 16:20:58 <Eddi|zuHause> just i have no clue how m4 actually works... 16:21:14 <snail_UES_> creating a file for eints shouldn’t be that hard (I can even do it with excel) 16:21:27 <snail_UES_> I’ll try to figure something out… 16:23:59 <Eddi|zuHause> well, the general idea is to have it done automatically... whatever strings you change will automatically be flagged by eints as "needs new translations", and whenever some translator changes anything, the translation will automatically be built into the grf (e.g. nightly version or next release) without you having to do anything special 16:24:00 <snail_UES_> I have to “apply for a project” in eints translator, right? 16:24:26 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 16:24:41 <snail_UES_> right, but what I’ll need as an output will be an actual text file 16:24:46 <snail_UES_> since I don’t work in nml... 16:25:18 <snail_UES_> I was hoping I could create my project on the eints translator, then people would start adding new languages, and I could download text files as a result... 16:25:28 <snail_UES_> and then I’d embed that text in my code 16:26:09 <Eddi|zuHause> you could probably do that. it's just more manual work, and doesn't really simplify any code 16:26:41 <snail_UES_> but I’d guess it simplifies the translators’ life… :p 16:27:13 <snail_UES_> instead of having to manually download and edit a text file from the forum, they would directly translate stuff up there 16:27:59 <Eddi|zuHause> yes 16:28:02 <snail_UES_> oh, but does the final work need to be GPL if you use eints? 16:28:26 <snail_UES_> I can see this in the default text for the application... 16:28:55 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't think so... devzone has some "must be somewhat free license" TOS, but it isn't fixed to GPL 16:29:51 <Eddi|zuHause> i can see someone objecting if you don't want to share your whole code, though 16:30:35 <snail_UES_> ah… so in order to use the eints translator, I need to basically register the whole project there? 16:30:58 <Eddi|zuHause> you should probably talk to some actual devzone admin about that 16:32:47 <Eddi|zuHause> snail_UES_: i'm fairly sure it's legal if you add just the translations, but give those a free license like CC-BY(-SA) 16:33:22 <snail_UES_> ok 16:34:07 <snail_UES_> I can add the translators’ names in the credits as well, provided I know who did what 16:34:33 <Eddi|zuHause> nobody can force you to release your whole GRF, and CC-BY(without-SA) allows you to include the translations in your proprietary project 16:34:58 <Eddi|zuHause> there's probably a way to export the names of the translators 16:36:49 <snail_UES_> so the set would be copyrighted and the translations would be under CC-BY standards? 16:37:00 <Eddi|zuHause> yes 16:37:04 <snail_UES_> ok, if that’s acceptable, I’ll apply to eints 16:43:35 <frosch123> the android port also has only translations on devzone 16:44:40 <snail_UES_> thanks… I’ll have to submit the translation file immediately upon applying, right? 16:45:41 *** Wacko1976 has quit IRC 16:47:15 <Eddi|zuHause> not necessarily. i think you apply for a project, which means a (hg or git) repo will be installed, and then you push your file to that repo 16:48:03 <snail_UES_> ok 16:48:10 <Eddi|zuHause> then eints can be set up to generate the translation files 16:48:41 <Eddi|zuHause> and then you can pull from the repo to build the translations into your grf 16:49:51 <Eddi|zuHause> there's some intermediate steps like setting up an ssh key so you can get write access to your repo and stuff 16:52:25 <snail_UES_> ah… I hope I’ll get instructions on how to do that upon applying 16:52:40 <snail_UES_> otherwise it sounds like it’s simpler to just post the text file on the forums :D 16:54:27 <Eddi|zuHause> it's only difficult once :p 16:55:26 <Eddi|zuHause> i think it's worth the effort, though. you get way better and more consistent feedback through eints 16:59:41 <frosch123> most people fail to setup their ssh key 17:03:00 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 17:03:39 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 17:07:34 *** glx has joined #openttd 17:07:34 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 17:26:16 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 17:34:11 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 17:38:38 *** chomwitt has quit IRC 17:39:11 <Eddi|zuHause> https://github.com/auchenberg/volkswagen/ 17:39:33 <andythenorth> trollish 17:41:34 <snail_UES_> bah 17:41:51 <Eddi|zuHause> context where that came up was https://medium.com/@kentbeck_7670/test-commit-revert-870bbd756864 17:42:05 <snail_UES_> they said their cheating would destroy the company, 3 years have passed and they’re still #1 :D 17:42:13 <Eddi|zuHause> the idea there being "if tests fail, remove all changes and start from scratch" 17:42:36 <Eddi|zuHause> snail_UES_: problem is that all others also cheated? 17:43:15 <snail_UES_> yeah, good luck finding a company that tells the truth to its customers 17:49:20 *** Wacko1976 has joined #openttd 17:55:01 *** chomwitt has joined #openttd 18:06:24 <Samu> looks like i need to install tortoise svn :( 18:08:58 <Samu> does the svn thing still exist for openttd? 18:09:23 <Samu> or am I doomed 18:11:42 <Samu> https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD.git 18:11:43 <andythenorth> svn is over 18:12:03 <Samu> I hope tortoise svn still works with this 18:13:14 <Samu> yes! it's doing the checkout stuff 18:13:27 <nielsm> github has svn emulation from the git repositories, actually 18:13:47 <nielsm> I've never tried it though 18:14:04 <Samu> holy crap, it's getting every version :( 18:14:09 <Samu> 0.7, 1.0 18:14:12 <Samu> etc... 18:14:22 <Samu> not really what I wanted, but ok 18:17:12 <Samu> 0.3.4 yay 18:21:05 *** wodencafe has quit IRC 18:25:15 <LordAro> Samu: you missed out /trunk, didn't you? :p 18:25:28 <LordAro> also, why do you need svn? the releases are still available in git 18:25:43 <LordAro> git checkout v1.8.0 or something 18:25:58 <LordAro> (git tags for a list) 18:29:12 <Samu> i have some svn patches here that I want to apply 18:29:18 <Samu> old work 18:29:38 <Samu> just hoping tortoise svn apply patch still work 18:30:07 <LordAro> it will not 18:30:11 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 18:30:16 <LordAro> git apply is a command that exists 18:30:29 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 18:30:29 <LordAro> i imagine there's a tortoisegit button to press as will 18:30:32 <LordAro> well* 18:30:44 <Samu> the patch is in svn format :( 18:31:11 <Samu> wondering how am i gonna do this 18:31:22 <LordAro> git can cope with this 18:31:27 <Samu> still downloading everything 18:31:54 <Samu> 1 GB transfered already, lol 18:32:12 <LordAro> "tortoisegit apply patch" was not a hard google 18:32:39 <Samu> tortoisegit apply tortoisesvn patch 18:32:44 <Samu> let me google 18:33:02 <LordAro> Samu: kill it, delete whatever you've already downloaded, and add /trunk to whatever url you checked out 18:33:10 <LordAro> it will be much faster 18:35:24 <Samu> ok, doing 2 checkouts at the same time, just in case 18:35:35 <Samu> is this "trunk" the same as the "master"? 18:37:08 <LordAro> yes 18:37:17 <LordAro> how have you forgotten how svn works already? 18:38:08 <Samu> real nice 18:38:20 <LordAro> i still maintain that you don't need it at all 18:38:56 <Samu> Revision: 24144 Author: translators Date: segunda-feira, 24 de setembro de 2018 18:45:43 Message: Update: Translations from eints spanish (mexican): 2 changes by Absay ---- Modified : /trunk/src/lang/spanish_MX.txt 18:39:17 <andythenorth> oof 18:39:19 <Samu> are we at 24144? 18:39:23 <andythenorth> can we do something interesting? :) 18:39:38 <andythenorth> maybe approve some PRs :P 18:39:41 <Samu> 24th september 2018 18:39:44 <Samu> was the last change? 18:44:31 <Samu> how come i'm deleting 5 GB if I only downloaded 1.3 GB? 18:44:40 <Samu> whatever, doesn't matter 18:45:59 <LordAro> text is very compressible 18:47:39 <andythenorth> hmm 18:54:05 <Samu> oh yeah, it still work! i can now commit to my fork thingy on github 18:54:21 <Samu> brach? 18:55:47 <LordAro> branch on your fork 18:56:21 <snail_UES_> andythenorth: what program do you use to draw your graphics? 18:57:16 <andythenorth> photoshop 18:57:22 <Samu> let me first see what visual studio has to say about my build first 18:57:25 <snail_UES_> ah… does it support palettes? 18:57:28 <andythenorth> yes 18:57:47 <snail_UES_> nice. I’ll have to switch when silly apple bans 32-bit apps :p 18:58:16 <snail_UES_> I’ll probably ask you how to create and use a palette there 18:58:40 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 19:00:45 <andythenorth> what are you using snail_UES_ ? 19:01:23 <Samu> yay it still builds! https://imgur.com/NqHEvoa 19:01:28 <Samu> i thought i'd never see this again 19:05:20 <snail_UES_> graphic converter 6 19:05:40 <snail_UES_> it’s an old version, because the newer ones dropped support for palettes years ago 19:08:20 <andythenorth> oh that still exists? o_O 19:08:52 <andythenorth> I tried pixelmator for a bit 19:09:31 <andythenorth> photoshop is ££ 19:15:18 <Samu> publishing branch, let's see 19:16:00 <Samu> https://github.com/SamuXarick/OpenTTD/tree/max_no_competitors-%3D-15-v33-r27931.patch 19:16:04 <Samu> it werks! 19:17:56 <Samu> Large diffs are not rendered by default. :p 19:18:10 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 19:19:27 <andythenorth> hmm 19:22:14 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 19:26:15 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 19:26:24 <andythenorth> one wagon type for each cargo type? o_O 19:26:50 <andythenorth> like original TTD? 19:28:33 <andythenorth> there are only 84 cargos in FIRS :P 19:28:37 <andythenorth> it's probably fine, right? 19:35:27 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 19:35:44 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 19:38:08 <snail_UES_> andythenorth: 84 different types of freigh wagons? :O 19:38:16 <andythenorth> it's an idea 19:38:18 <snail_UES_> maybe with multiple generations? 19:38:26 <andythenorth> with 6 generations 19:38:31 <andythenorth> @calc 84 * 6 19:38:31 <DorpsGek> andythenorth: 504 19:38:36 <andythenorth> and 2 lengths 19:38:39 <andythenorth> 1008 19:38:45 <andythenorth> 'no'? 19:38:49 <snail_UES_> :D 19:39:26 *** Wacko1976 has quit IRC 19:39:31 <snail_UES_> purchase list variants, anyone?... 19:39:58 <Eddi|zuHause> no. that's what we have actual refits for 19:40:07 <Eddi|zuHause> it's like their only reason to exist 19:40:41 <Eddi|zuHause> don't try to hunt for "BAD FEATURES"... 19:41:01 <andythenorth> aren't refits for liveries Eddi|zuHause? :P 19:42:27 <Eddi|zuHause> *mental note*don't get lost in files dated "2002" 19:47:02 <andythenorth> indisuputably useful advice 19:48:37 *** Gja has joined #openttd 20:05:37 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 20:08:04 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 20:13:18 *** synchris has quit IRC 20:21:24 *** Wacko1976 has joined #openttd 20:25:23 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 20:27:26 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 20:31:17 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 20:32:06 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 20:35:56 *** Ttech has quit IRC 20:37:08 *** alluke has joined #openttd 20:46:54 *** Ttech has joined #openttd 20:51:30 *** alluke has quit IRC 20:52:28 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 20:57:01 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 21:00:41 *** Progman_ has joined #openttd 21:06:01 *** Progman has quit IRC 21:25:12 *** wodencafe has joined #openttd 21:54:19 *** snail_UES_ has quit IRC 21:57:22 *** Tharbakim has quit IRC 22:00:13 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 22:19:02 *** debdog has quit IRC 22:20:13 *** debdog has joined #openttd 22:23:04 *** gelignite has quit IRC 22:23:51 <Samu> cpu evaluator crash, the bane of many AIs 22:25:16 <Samu> oh, Delerium are out with a new out 22:25:22 <Samu> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_5iqdWaMWU - I totally missed it 22:26:16 *** nielsm has quit IRC 22:39:25 <peter1138> A new out? 22:40:14 <Samu> album 22:40:51 <Samu> yeah september 2016... that was 2 years ago already, how did I miss it 22:43:03 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 22:44:49 *** snail_UES_ has joined #openttd 22:45:46 <Samu> it's sad depressing music, nobody likes it, except me 22:46:16 <Samu> used to be worse in the early years 22:52:21 *** Wacko1976 has quit IRC 23:06:56 <peter1138> "Delerium is a Canadian ambient electronic musical duo" 23:07:19 <peter1138> Listens to first track on Mythologie... yeah... no, that's not particularly ambient. 23:08:05 <Samu> - Fix: [Script] Kill scripts, when a non-suspendable valuator call takes way too long [FS#6473] (r27594) 23:08:21 <Samu> great fix :p 23:08:27 <Samu> j/k 23:08:56 <Samu> will never forget though 23:14:14 <peter1138> Well, don't let your valuators take too long. 23:15:24 <Samu> make valuators suspendable would be a better fix :( 23:41:42 <peter1138> Go on then 23:41:51 <peter1138> I suspect you know more about the subject than me :p 23:46:44 *** snail_UES_ has quit IRC 23:47:31 <Samu> ewww, no. that part of the code is too scary to touch 23:48:10 <Samu> it's kind of a bridge-code between squirrel and openttd 23:49:24 <Samu> the coding style is different