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01:08:07 *** ericnoan has quit IRC 01:23:34 *** ericnoan has joined #openttd 02:14:15 *** Samu_ has quit IRC 02:18:02 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 02:24:08 *** debdog has joined #openttd 02:27:28 *** D-HUND has quit IRC 03:07:18 *** glx has quit IRC 05:19:13 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 05:39:56 *** snail_UES_ has quit IRC 06:08:20 *** _dp_ has quit IRC 06:09:56 *** dP has joined #openttd 06:09:56 *** dP is now known as _dp_ 06:44:24 <nakki> this is a cursed morning 06:53:54 * andythenorth somewhat fixed FIRS production 07:07:19 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: i did tell you a few months ago that dropping the leftover calculation was a bad idea 07:07:26 <andythenorth> yes 07:17:04 <andythenorth> I should document why it has to be there 07:17:22 <andythenorth> it appears to be due to the vehicle unload cycle moving very small amounts to the industry 07:33:18 *** Wacko1976-work has quit IRC 07:45:02 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttd 07:45:02 *** andythenorth is now known as Guest6512 07:45:02 *** andythenorth_ is now known as andythenorth 07:49:33 *** Guest6512 has quit IRC 08:18:57 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nikolas commented on pull request #7086: Change #6173: Update SDL driver to use SDL 2.0 https://git.io/fjKwH 08:21:11 *** WWacko1976-work has joined #openttd 08:29:19 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 08:32:16 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nikolas updated pull request #7086: Change #6173: Update SDL driver to use SDL 2.0 https://git.io/fhamZ 08:32:48 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nikolas updated pull request #7086: Change #6173: Update SDL driver to use SDL 2.0 https://git.io/fhamZ 10:08:48 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 10:36:53 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 11:03:50 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 11:05:15 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 12:39:56 *** snail_UES_ has joined #openttd 13:02:57 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 13:08:16 *** snail_UES_ has quit IRC 13:08:25 *** Samu has joined #openttd 13:09:00 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 13:41:45 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 13:46:53 <DorpsGek_II> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] James103 opened issue #7635: Game crash on exit scenario editor when you build or demolish infrastructure https://git.io/fjK1y 13:56:10 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 14:13:29 <LordAro> more bugs? :( 14:21:10 <peter1138> Features. 14:21:37 <peter1138> Hmm, wondering if I should take the short or long route home. 14:22:25 <LordAro> medium. 14:26:20 <peter1138> Heh 14:28:22 <peter1138> Hmm, 30 vs 50 minutes. 14:30:49 <peter1138> Or, indeed, the as-yet unridden medium route, of probably 40 minutes. (11 miles) 14:31:33 <peter1138> Mainly cos it stays on main roads longer than the short and long routes, so is basically pointless. 14:43:28 *** Flygon has quit IRC 14:45:29 <andythenorth> Long 14:45:32 <andythenorth> it's a nice day 14:45:34 <andythenorth> probly 14:45:47 <andythenorth> I took the 'waiting at red traffic lights a lot' routes yesterday :P 14:45:48 <peter1138> Allegedly it's sunny and 20°C. It's not. 14:45:49 <andythenorth> quite annoying 14:46:19 <peter1138> Hmm, although I'm going out tonight, so maybe I can't be arsed with the long route. 15:06:46 <LordAro> peter1138: i'd do my longer route more often, but i'd need to remember to bring actual cycling clothes 15:06:52 <LordAro> otherwise i get overly damp 15:07:05 <peter1138> Heh 15:07:37 <peter1138> I have stealth clothing: MTB-style shorts and a wicking vest. 15:07:57 <peter1138> Although I don't usually put enough effort in to sweat profusely. 15:07:58 <LordAro> mm, that could work actually 15:08:13 <LordAro> my normal shorts are more of a beige, which kinda shows a bit 15:08:44 <peter1138> I had a bit of extertion getting a KOM on Sunday mind you. 15:30:57 <Samu> the new RailwAI version is apparently performing worse 15:31:20 <Samu> don't know if i should repeat all the rounds with the new version or wait for a more stable version 15:31:51 <Samu> kinda sucks to do about 40~ rounds only to get another version out again 15:34:42 <Samu> version 18 15:44:22 <peter1138> Nodoby really cares :p 15:44:54 <Eddi|zuHause> a KraftOMnibus? 15:45:00 <andythenorth> I don't mind this particular spam though :) 15:45:03 <andythenorth> I find it nice 15:46:35 <Eddi|zuHause> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/KOM <-- quite a bit down the list :) 15:51:25 *** gnu_jj has quit IRC 15:58:18 <peter1138> Yes, because I often write in German... 15:58:33 <peter1138> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KOM <-- also quite a bit down the list, but you can probably guess which one... 16:14:24 *** y2kboy23 has quit IRC 16:14:39 *** y2kboy23 has joined #openttd 16:20:43 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 16:30:00 *** gnu_jj has joined #openttd 16:41:19 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 17:01:42 <andythenorth> which way shall I cycle home? 17:01:53 <andythenorth> up the short steep hill, or the long shallow hill? 17:01:58 <andythenorth> lolz, what am I saying 17:02:02 <andythenorth> there is no shallow hill :P 17:02:06 <Eddi|zuHause> this way -> 17:02:12 <andythenorth> exit stage right 17:02:28 <Eddi|zuHause> remember that stage right is on your left :p 17:03:49 <andythenorth> it's only a 47m vertical climb actually 17:03:52 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 17:04:04 <Wolf01> o/ 17:04:05 <Eddi|zuHause> that's like a 15 story building 17:04:17 <andythenorth> 3.6km, google says 15 mins, I think I can prove that wrong 17:04:25 <andythenorth> eh, the route I normally go is 4.8km :o 17:04:35 <andythenorth> doesn't feel longer :P 17:06:54 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 17:27:23 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 17:29:40 <rubenwardy> stage right would be on his right, if he's facing the audience 17:29:50 <rubenwardy> stage directions - perspective of actor facing audience 17:29:59 <rubenwardy> house directions - perspective of audience 17:30:09 <rubenwardy> I only know this because of friends 17:30:47 <Eddi|zuHause> not on the stages i've been 17:31:19 <rubenwardy> F•R•I•E•N•D•S 17:31:20 <rubenwardy> https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/stage-right 17:31:21 <Eddi|zuHause> stage directions were always from the view of the audience (where the director would sit in rehearsals) 17:31:32 <rubenwardy> nope, see link 17:32:05 <rubenwardy> http://dictionary.tdf.org/stage-left-stage-right-house-left-house-right/ 17:35:14 *** tokai|noir has joined #openttd 17:35:14 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai|noir 17:41:55 *** tokai has quit IRC 17:50:39 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 17:51:55 <andythenorth> 3.7km 58m vertical climb 17:52:06 <andythenorth> google says 17min, I got 9min 17:52:16 <andythenorth> lucky with green traffic lights 17:52:21 *** Progman has joined #openttd 17:52:38 <andythenorth> also bike has go faster electrification mode :P 17:55:19 <Eddi|zuHause> according to google, if i want to go Anywhere(tm), it's 17km, 108m up, 127m down 17:55:31 <Eddi|zuHause> about 1h 17:58:48 <Eddi|zuHause> just leaving the village is a climb of 23m over a distance of 450m 17:58:48 <andythenorth> is faster on electric bike? :P 17:59:49 <Eddi|zuHause> 23m over 300m 18:01:14 <Eddi|zuHause> then it's a drop of 33m over 750m 18:02:21 <Eddi|zuHause> then it's a climb of 27m over 1.5km 18:03:36 <Eddi|zuHause> then there's a short flat section and a drop of 52m over 2km 18:04:10 <andythenorth> ouch 18:05:07 <Eddi|zuHause> and then a climb of 27m over 850m 18:05:23 <Eddi|zuHause> and then i still haven't reached the city limits 18:05:34 <Eddi|zuHause> and to go back the whole thing in reverse... 18:05:37 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 18:06:25 <andythenorth> electric bike with big battery :P 18:06:58 <andythenorth> mine only has about 5 mile range if ridden everywhere on turbo 18:08:49 <Eddi|zuHause> it's less climbing if i go on the main road, but that would be crazy and borderline life-threatening 18:09:08 <Eddi|zuHause> and only slightly less... 18:11:32 <andythenorth> so who here has an electric car? :) 18:11:58 <Eddi|zuHause> i'd like one, but it's probably not yet realistic 18:12:26 <Eddi|zuHause> but i should probably be getting a new car by the end of the year... 18:15:53 <andythenorth> I am interested how fast it will switch 18:15:55 <andythenorth> and what blocks it 18:16:42 <Eddi|zuHause> the main blocker for me right now is the high entry cost 18:17:35 <Eddi|zuHause> a lesser annoyance would be the long recharging times at long distance trips 18:21:43 <andythenorth> do you buy cars cash, or finance? 18:22:45 <Eddi|zuHause> i've never actually, technically, bought a car myself 18:26:05 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm not sure i'd get away with financing at the moment 18:26:21 <Eddi|zuHause> although that would probably be the sane thing to do 18:26:42 <andythenorth> last time I looked seriously was ~2 years ago 18:27:05 <andythenorth> the battery was confusing - do you own it or rent it? 18:27:11 <andythenorth> so I bought a diesel van :P 18:27:18 <andythenorth> I think that will get addressed this year 18:27:26 <Eddi|zuHause> last time i pushed my old car through the checks, which was probably more expensive than getting a new old car... 18:27:53 <Eddi|zuHause> diesel is dead 18:28:30 <Eddi|zuHause> (also, i'm not driving nearly enough for a diesel to have made sense) 18:32:16 <andythenorth> electrification has to come, and soon 18:32:33 <andythenorth> there are only 2 electric cars on my street, in a very liberal, affluent area 18:33:05 <Eddi|zuHause> it has to, but it's still only the first step 18:34:15 <Eddi|zuHause> a) you now need more electricity, b) you need to produce this new electricity without using carbon, c) you also need to produce the other electricity without carbon 18:34:48 <Eddi|zuHause> d) and preferably also not irreversably radiating the planet while doing so 18:34:52 <andythenorth> it's non-trivial 18:35:18 <andythenorth> but transport electrification creates demand which attracts capital 18:35:23 <andythenorth> and creates battery reserve 18:37:57 <andythenorth> I look at this a lot http://gridwatch.co.uk/ 18:38:09 <andythenorth> in summer the UK regularly pushes 20%-35% renewables 19:10:08 <andythenorth> I really enjoy Pikka's AI 19:10:46 <andythenorth> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/9468/Civil_3.png 19:11:21 *** glx has joined #openttd 19:11:22 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 20:00:53 <Wolf01> https://www.hanselman.com/blog/GitIsCasesensitiveAndYourFilesystemMayNotBeWeirdFolderMergingOnWindows.aspx 20:02:33 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 20:03:30 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 20:25:30 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 21:09:31 *** nielsm has quit IRC 21:16:02 *** spnda has joined #openttd 21:21:14 *** andythenorth has left #openttd 22:03:15 *** gelignite has quit IRC 22:03:37 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 22:05:08 *** urdh has quit IRC 22:12:58 *** Progman has quit IRC 22:17:18 *** tfgbd_ has joined #openttd 22:23:21 <tfgbd_> Wheres the PPC version 22:29:27 <tfgbd_> NM, I found it: https://web.archive.org/web/20060216173549/http://www.esoftinteractive.com/spookysoft/ppcttd_dev.zip https://web.archive.org/web/20060216173549/http://www.esoftinteractive.com/spookysoft/ppcttd.zip 22:56:29 *** urdh has joined #openttd 23:21:00 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 23:35:33 *** Mahjong has joined #openttd 23:41:08 *** Mahjong1 has quit IRC 23:43:59 *** Tirili has joined #openttd