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Log for #openttd on 12th December 2019:
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06:42:24  <andythenorth> o/
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06:52:34  <Pikka> o/
06:56:34  <andythenorth> innit http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_PTYYwaQeYeY/SxlGcSCVfYI/AAAAAAAAACc/RQfKaG8xNZU/w1200-h630-p-k-no-nu/Slag+Car+-+1.jpg
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06:59:15  <Pikka> steeltown?
06:59:23  <andythenorth> very
06:59:31  <andythenorth> 35mph speed limit
06:59:38  <andythenorth> realism max
06:59:54  <Pikka> I'm CivilAIing... trying to remember how the X and Y coords work. It was all written down on a piece of paper around here about 6 months ago...
07:00:12  <andythenorth> just look around for that
07:00:21  <andythenorth> CivilAI continues to deliver the lolz
07:00:33  <andythenorth> I should try it with the Migrations GS
07:05:42  <Pikka> well, passenger trains is next to add ;)
07:06:06  <Pikka> at the moment I'm teaching it to upgrade to electric... good times.
07:15:48  <andythenorth> if I had 2 of me
07:15:51  <andythenorth> I would do an AI
07:15:55  <andythenorth> but as I don't :)
07:37:33  <Pikka> it seems to have learned to use other rail types... I should try it with IH, see if it builds narrow gauge!
07:37:55  <andythenorth> hurrah
07:39:03  <Pikka> oh, I forgot a case... it needs to make sure it's using the same rail type when connecting to an existing network :)
07:56:38  * andythenorth makes FIRS
08:00:04  <andythenorth> is it done? https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/9547/slag_grinding_plant_4.png
08:00:16  <andythenorth> bulldozer is animated obvs
08:04:20  <Pikka> hmmm maybe!
08:05:04  <andythenorth> didn't do snow yet
08:05:14  <andythenorth> snow needed for another 40 industries :P
08:12:28  <Pikka> yuck
08:14:41  <andythenorth> not much snow in BNE
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08:20:31  <Pikka> not at the moment, certainly
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11:13:58  <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: https://www.reddit.com/r/openttd/comments/e96nv8/new_type_of_natural_disaster/
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11:32:45  <peter1138> Oh reddit...
11:32:53  <peter1138> andythenorth, I failed. I ate a doughnut before lunch :(
11:33:42  <peter1138> I guess some might consider that a win.
11:33:48  <peter1138> It was a krispy kreme after all.
11:35:17  * LordAro would
11:39:42  <peter1138> I skipped breakfast anyway, although that was due to overeating last night. Hmm.
11:46:58  <andythenorth> call it prep for christmas
11:47:25  <andythenorth> the important question of today has arrived
11:47:31  <andythenorth> it will affect many futures
11:47:38  <andythenorth> should I have more coffee?
11:57:39  <Pikka> more than what?
11:59:37  <andythenorth> more than....1?
11:59:41  <andythenorth> more than...earlier?
11:59:48  <andythenorth> more than...I had already?
12:05:39  <peter1138> More than me
12:08:54  <andythenorth> I have made a diligent list
12:09:01  <andythenorth> of things I need to finish for FIRS v4
12:09:11  * andythenorth is not feeling very diligent
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12:55:56  <Arveen> is that list public ?
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13:00:49  <andythenorth> nah
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13:09:03  <andythenorth> so....what ground tiles for Carbon Black Plant? :P
13:09:04  <andythenorth> https://i2-prod.cheshire-live.co.uk/incoming/article6393529.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/cabot.jpg
13:09:16  <andythenorth> concrete, mud, or grass? :P
13:10:23  <Arveen> yes
13:10:26  <Arveen> :D
13:10:30  <andythenorth> xor
13:10:49  <Arveen> hmmmmm
13:11:33  <Arveen> mostly concrete, there's lotsa gras on this pic but it's more outside of it
13:11:39  <andythenorth> I'm agreeing
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13:30:01  <planetmaker> hm...https://github.com/planetmaker/nml/runs/345554867
13:31:47  <andythenorth> we should test a build on pypy :)
13:31:51  <andythenorth> but that wasn't your question
13:34:01  <planetmaker> I will not think about pypy before I have solved automated builds for linux/windows/osx and publishing to pypi :)
13:34:32  <planetmaker> because there is only so much what can take my attention. And if it is distracted... nothing will ever get done
13:35:31  <andythenorth> :D
13:36:07  <peter1138> Well, I have saladded. With a slice of granary bread for a change.
13:38:41  <planetmaker> the question I actually have is: why is both 'Regression' and 'Python package' run on push to my repo? https://github.com/planetmaker/nml/actions
13:39:20  <planetmaker> regression is part of python package... why is it - again - run separately?
13:40:00  <planetmaker> hm... actually. Thanks for listening. Now I know :P
13:41:31  <Eddi|zuHause> the teddy bear programming worked?
13:42:05  <planetmaker> yep, quite
13:47:04  * andythenorth wonders about layered pngs
13:47:29  <andythenorth> ugh it's a proprietary Adobe mangling of png :(
13:47:39  <andythenorth> nvm
13:51:57  <peter1138> Surprise.
13:52:30  <planetmaker> today is not an 'Adobe is doing things fine'-day
13:52:45  <planetmaker> found that on a telecon earlier today
13:53:29  <andythenorth> oof
14:02:12  <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: when was the last such day? :p
14:06:19  <planetmaker> good question :)
14:06:48  <planetmaker> Though granted, their telecon software usually worked quite fine for us. With the occasional exceptions. Today was the worst exception day
14:49:38  <FLHerne> vote, or drink more tea?
14:50:20  <andythenorth> both
14:50:23  <andythenorth> in sequence
14:50:40  <FLHerne> Actually, I have a thermos flask somewhere
14:50:41  <andythenorth> wrong channel, but the T32 is a beast of a tank, but very team dependent
14:50:53  <FLHerne> I could do them in parallel :-)
14:56:38  <Eddi|zuHause> i ordered a refurbished graphics card for 133€, was that a mistake?
14:57:49  <Eddi|zuHause> a new one would have been more like 180€
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15:54:51  <andythenorth> what does the cat think about it Eddi|zuHause ?
15:55:09  <Eddi|zuHause> ... miau?
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16:27:07  <LordAro> is it lunch?
16:32:34  <planetmaker> sorry, no lunch now
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16:46:10  <andythenorth> I made errors about lunch
16:46:18  <andythenorth> lunch was overlooked
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17:17:44  <supermop_work> ghi
17:21:40  <andythenorth> hi
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17:40:54  <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/website] auge8472 opened pull request #113: Change: semantic HTML-elements for the pages main sections https://git.io/JeH4H
17:41:23  <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/website] auge8472 commented on pull request #84: Change: semantic HTML-elements for the pages main sections and corresponding CSS-rules https://git.io/JeH45
17:41:23  <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/website] auge8472 closed pull request #84: Change: semantic HTML-elements for the pages main sections and corresponding CSS-rules https://git.io/fjmi9
17:51:06  <andythenorth> well
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18:06:51  <andythenorth> still didn't lunch
18:06:56  * andythenorth really doing it wrong
18:11:32  <lugo> andythenorth, slag grinding plant looks great! I don't wan't to sound boring, but is there a chance for FIRS getting a "recuced colors" parameter or something? I think having pink quarry buildings and iron ore mines etc. looks weird.
18:12:35  <andythenorth> lugo: not a parameter any time soon, but you could mod this file and recompile https://github.com/andythenorth/firs/blob/master/src/templates/colour.pynml
18:12:44  <andythenorth> it already bans certain ugly colours
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18:25:59  <lugo> andythenorth: alright thank you!
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20:21:58  <andythenorth> hmm
20:22:10  <andythenorth> IRL these carbon black plants are big https://i2-prod.cheshire-live.co.uk/incoming/article6393529.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/cabot.jpg
20:22:13  <andythenorth> and complex
20:22:27  <andythenorth> but in FIRS it's small because it's low production :P
20:22:39  * andythenorth applies drawing
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21:27:50  <lugo> regarding my newgrf problem from yesterday; using a precompiled version of jgrpp-0.32.3 from the forums thread works fine, so there must be something off with my compiling environment or something..
21:28:43  <lugo> the binary from the thread (mingw) is way larger than what i get out vs2017
21:30:17  <lugo> then again compiling trunk with vs2017 works fine too
21:31:00  <Eddi|zuHause> binary size depends on loads of things
21:31:31  <Eddi|zuHause> like, which libraries are included as static
21:32:04  <Eddi|zuHause> if you compile just for yourself, you don't need any static libraries
21:34:53  <lugo> i pretty much just followed what is written in COMPILING.md
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23:12:47  <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] bjarnithor99 opened pull request #7859: Feature #7756: Allow server to supply a reason to kicked/banned clients https://git.io/JeH2l
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23:40:04  <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LordAro approved pull request #7857: Add #7801: [Script] more error mappings https://git.io/JeH2Q
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23:51:55  <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] ldpl commented on pull request #7859: Feature #7756: Allow server to supply a reason to kicked/banned clients https://git.io/JeHae

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