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Log for #openttd on 21st March 2020:
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07:58:53  <andythenorth> ,o/
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08:25:06  <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/OpenGFX] andythenorth opened issue #36: Release 0.5.6 (or 0.6)? https://git.io/JvMjS
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11:11:12  <Samu> hi
11:11:26  <Samu> merge 8040 before 1.10?
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13:22:24  <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/website] glx22 approved pull request #152: Add: screenshots from AlexTheDacian and ColdIce https://git.io/JvDke
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13:59:32  <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/website] auge8472 merged pull request #152: Add: screenshots from AlexTheDacian and ColdIce https://git.io/JvMic
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14:22:59  <andythenorth> hmm
14:23:18  <andythenorth> nodejs wants my admin password
14:23:20  <andythenorth> I think not
14:28:41  <Wolf01> How is going there?
14:32:10  <andythenorth> there's no one word answer
14:32:41  <andythenorth> detected infection rate and total death rate remain very low but growing
14:32:52  <andythenorth> lots and lots of people are going to lose their jobs, almost immediately
14:33:13  <andythenorth> on the streets it's more like a snow day than panic
14:33:23  <andythenorth> but media stories are all about empty supermarkets
14:33:53  <andythenorth> I have just been to the mall, supermarket and garden centre, no shortages at all, no panic, just mostly quiet
14:34:11  <andythenorth> Wolf01: how is going there?
14:34:24  <LordAro> andythenorth: got lucky, supermarkets in York still struggling a bit
14:34:32  <LordAro> all pubs now closed, which is sad
14:35:10  <andythenorth> LordAro: for background info, the garden centre had a pallet of toilet rolls :P
14:35:19  <andythenorth> it hadn't sold out
14:36:10  <LordAro> https://www.dropbox.com/s/9pj44a56sjoc730/IMG_20200320_194151.jpg?dl=0 here's the photo i took yesterday evening
14:36:14  <andythenorth> I suspect it's quite contextual, Bristol has a fuckload of supermarkets and minmarts, and is also a huge food distribution hub due to Avonmouth and M4/M5
14:36:34  <andythenorth> oh yeah, Tesco looked like that last Sunday
14:36:39  <Wolf01> Cases and deaths still rising, authorities forbid more things like open space fitness and 200mt max of movement outside houses to bring the dogs outside
14:38:10  <andythenorth> LordAro: but last Sunday next to Tesco, this was What! (like a Poundland / Wilkos) https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/9634/IMG_4816.JPG
14:38:20  <andythenorth> it had 5-10 more pallets of loo roll in the shop
14:38:27  <andythenorth> the 'shortages' are very myopic
14:38:41  <LordAro> of course
14:38:51  <LordAro> just supply problems, really
14:38:55  <andythenorth> and Tesco were giving out loo rolls from the warehouse
14:39:24  <andythenorth> they just couldn't restock fast enough, and tbh, they'd have a crowd control issue restocking the public loo roll shelves during shopping hours
14:39:41  <andythenorth> about 30% of the shopps in the mall were closed
14:40:07  <andythenorth> Wolf01: there is a message circulating on social media, allegedly from a Brit in northern Italy (if true)
14:40:18  <andythenorth> it says "Britain, calm the fuck down, Italy still has food and medicine"
14:40:38  <Wolf01> Yep, we do, no shortages
14:41:49  <andythenorth> people still renting dogs out?
14:41:51  <Wolf01> Maybe in some big city's warehouses there's shortage, but they should be continuously restocking
14:42:00  <andythenorth> I got my haircut yesterday, Italian barber
14:42:05  <andythenorth> said people in Italy are renting out dogs
14:42:10  <andythenorth> dogs doing 100km a day
14:42:16  <Wolf01> Yes, they do
14:42:42  <LordAro> renting out dogs? for what purpose?
14:42:54  <Wolf01> Being able to do a walk outside
14:43:09  <LordAro> ah right
14:43:21  <Wolf01> It's just a matter of days the authorities will ask the dog's documents too
14:43:25  <LordAro> but how do they get the dogs to them?
14:43:35  <andythenorth> drones!
14:43:38  <Wolf01> Usually the neighbours
14:46:04  <andythenorth> so I bought a new laptop, I wonder how much slower it will be
14:47:11  <andythenorth> oof a little bit
14:47:52  <andythenorth> @calc 100*(19/1100)
14:47:52  <DorpsGek> andythenorth: 1.72727272727
14:47:59  <andythenorth> 1.7% slower :P
14:50:16  <Wolf01> Meh, yesterday 10k people charged for breaking the bans
14:51:20  <andythenorth> how much is the fine?
14:51:21  <Wolf01> I'm starting to think that the urge of going outside is an affect of the virus, to spread it, like the zombie fungus on insects or other parasytes
14:51:28  <andythenorth> well
14:51:29  <andythenorth> maybe
14:51:39  <andythenorth> or we're all just more introverted than average
14:52:34  <Wolf01> I for sure
14:58:03  <Wolf01> https://9gag.com/gag/aBgeW4A
15:00:05  <Wolf01> I'm going to hunt some food
15:00:51  <Wolf01> Like... getting the biscuit pack at my left
15:07:41  <andythenorth> I have stockpiled cookies
15:07:47  <andythenorth> but then again
15:07:51  <andythenorth> every week I stockpile cookies
15:08:28  <Wolf01> I need to get more, this is the last pack
15:08:48  <Wolf01> Also, I don't have ginger ale
15:11:03  <Wolf01> Let's see if people in my house what some tea
15:14:40  <frosch123> trading tea for ginger ale?
15:15:43  <Wolf01> No, drinking tea to forget ginger ale
15:17:55  <andythenorth> hmm does Github commits view show tags?
15:18:06  <andythenorth> Bitbucket has that feature, can't see it in GH
15:24:35  <frosch123> https://github.com/OpenTTD/website/commits/1.3.3 <- you can select the tag at the top, but making a tag is no commit in git
15:26:06  <andythenorth> Bitbucket shows commits that are the rev for a tag, it's a hover-over thing
15:26:12  <andythenorth> might only be annotated tags, not sure
15:26:35  <andythenorth> but eh, it's no big deal :)
15:26:40  <andythenorth> website release? o_O
15:26:50  <andythenorth> or do we want to also do a blog post?
15:28:45  <frosch123> did someone already figure out the red lines?
15:40:30  <andythenorth> red lines?
15:40:46  <andythenorth> oof I have to set this new computer up, BIAB
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16:15:02  <Katje> Hi
16:15:14  <Katje> I'm trying to understand the cargoflow screen
16:15:44  <Katje> if it says "saturated" does that mean the I've too many vehicles on that route, or too much cargo for the number of vehicles?
16:21:04  <Wolf01> Trying to get ginger ale on amazon is depressing, 54€+18€ for 24 bottles, I paid 32€+4€ last time
16:29:06  <Samu> can't make my AI profitable enough :( hope someone takes the challenge https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=65&t=86810
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17:10:38  <Samu> woah, 1 month ago there was only 4 infected in italy
17:11:19  <Samu> 1 month later, it's like 20k+
17:11:34  <Samu> oh, 40k
17:14:07  <Samu> https://youtu.be/F33Z7FH-_u8?t=205 portugal made it to the top 20... :(
17:14:54  <Samu> i swear if spain has that many, portugal will have much more than it shows yet
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17:34:34  <rotterdxm> italy has the most deaths as well
17:34:37  <rotterdxm> over 4k
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17:43:12  <andythenorth> ouch
17:43:19  <andythenorth> Thunderbolt 3 is rubbish
17:43:58  <andythenorth> over 1.5 hours to copy just 580GB
17:45:09  <andythenorth> should be more like 2 mins
17:46:54  <Samu> :)
17:47:04  <Samu> andythenorth, make an AI plz
17:47:14  <Samu> that uses your vehicle sets
17:53:35  <andythenorth> oof this keyboard is weird
17:53:56  <andythenorth> it doesn't feel or sound like typing on solid wood
18:01:41  <frosch123> why did you get a new one? just to compensate that you did not get any toilet paper?
18:05:01  <andythenorth> partly to get a real keyboard etc
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18:05:13  <andythenorth> and partly because we need a spare for work, the supply chain is closing
18:05:52  <andythenorth> this one is huge, has a weird functioning keyboard
18:05:54  <andythenorth> and is slower
18:06:50  <andythenorth> also nothing works because Apple 'upgraded' security
18:07:52  <andythenorth> oh and nothing works because the shell is now zsh
18:07:53  <andythenorth> lolz
18:10:49  <frosch123> fish would suit you :)
18:14:16  * andythenorth does the 'make a mac work' dance
18:14:20  <andythenorth> thank goodness for stack overflow
18:17:15  * andythenorth wonders how much slower nml is on this
18:17:31  <andythenorth> 2.3Ghz i9 vs 2.8Ghz i7 on the old one
18:28:40  <andythenorth> let's see how broken openttd is
18:29:03  <andythenorth> all of the python grf tools and grfcodec are 'broken'
18:43:56  <andythenorth> ok openttd is broken
18:44:13  <andythenorth> I love the modern mac experience, it's like nothing works ever
18:44:29  <Samu> why buy apple then
18:45:23  <andythenorth> these are the questions
18:45:26  <andythenorth> I am captured
18:45:33  <andythenorth> stockholm syndrome
18:45:49  <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] DorpsGek pushed 1 commits to master https://git.io/JvDYe
18:45:49  <DorpsGek_III_>   - Update: Translations from eints (by translators)
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18:49:35  <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] andythenorth commented on issue #7623: Support for macOS Catalina. https://git.io/fj2uh
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19:05:14  <andythenorth> omg I have an actual escape key
19:05:20  <andythenorth> I can press it and everything
19:11:03  <Wolf01> Pfff I had to fix a little bug in one of our softwares
19:21:09  <andythenorth> did you go into the office?
19:21:16  <Wolf01> Yes
19:21:51  <Wolf01> Luckily I left my pc running ;)
19:22:12  <Wolf01> I was about to shut it down yesterday
19:23:38  <andythenorth> oh OpenTTD compiled
19:23:39  <andythenorth> and ran
19:23:42  <andythenorth> let's see how slow it is
19:24:54  <andythenorth> lol 0.7x game speed
19:24:55  <andythenorth> ok
19:25:32  <andythenorth> worse than the old laptop
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20:08:31  <glx> andythenorth: you commented about both beta, but not tested RC ?
20:08:52  <andythenorth> I don't have it
20:08:59  <andythenorth> but I would be shocked if it didn't work
20:22:43  <andythenorth> hmm need my git tab completion back :P
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20:35:57  <andythenorth> glx thanks for approving website PR, feel like making a tag? o_O
20:37:15  <glx> I probably can :)
20:38:51  <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/website] glx22 created new tag: 1.3.4 https://git.io/JvDOg
20:39:09  <glx> I think I did it
20:39:24  <andythenorth> :D
20:39:35  <andythenorth> can't remember if it auto-publishes
20:39:37  <andythenorth> might do
20:40:23  <frosch123> it's written in the readme
20:40:31  <frosch123> master is already published to https://www.staging.openttd.org/screenshots.html
20:41:07  <andythenorth> hurrah
20:42:55  <andythenorth> eh openttd compile is about 1m 10s now
20:43:18  <andythenorth> -j 26
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21:31:15  <TrueBrain> what the hell did andy use to make those thumbnails? Fuck, they are ugly :P
21:33:09  <Guest19944> crude resize in photoshop
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21:33:36  <TrueBrain> seriously, someone should remake those thumbs :)
21:33:51  <andythenorth> I considered if we could automate
21:33:53  <andythenorth> but eh
21:34:03  <andythenorth> the older ones aren't even the right aspec ratio
21:34:11  <TrueBrain> but at least they look pretty
21:34:15  <Wolf01> Seriously, with NRT it looks totally a different game
21:34:17  <TrueBrain> these look pixelated :P
21:35:29  <TrueBrain> https://www.staging.openttd.org/screenshots/1.3-03-opengfx-1920x1200_thumb.png vs https://www.staging.openttd.org/screenshots/1.9-darkuk-2_thumb.png
21:35:34  <TrueBrain> the difference is staggering :D
21:35:54  <TrueBrain> like it did rescaling by keeping the brightest color
21:36:03  <TrueBrain> I did not know there were application that did rescaling this crappy
21:36:19  <glx> some textures are not resize friendly
21:36:25  <TrueBrain> (not blaming you as such andythenorth ; I am seriously surprised it an application allows to make such crappy thumbs :P)
21:36:37  <TrueBrain> glx: this has nothing to do with the original tbh :)
21:36:53  <TrueBrain> it looks like it did not blur to rescale, but just picked a random pixel from the resize
21:37:30  <andythenorth> tbh I did a slackjaw job on them
21:37:41  <TrueBrain> glx: to proof my point: https://www.staging.openttd.org/screenshots/1.0-20100509_cw_gardenart_thumb.png
21:37:49  <andythenorth> I was grumpy because a simple task turned into 'rebuild jekyl environment from scratch'
21:38:02  <andythenorth> and hack the site to get to jekyl to serve locally
21:38:05  <TrueBrain> andythenorth: you keep having that issue, it seems :D
21:38:07  <andythenorth> I should have done better
21:38:18  <TrueBrain> ussseee the doocckkkkeeerrrr
21:38:23  <TrueBrain> but no, you cannot be blamed for applications being crap
21:38:46  <andythenorth> I have no argument against that
21:38:55  <andythenorth> fuck my irc client doesn't work any more
21:39:04  <andythenorth> doesn't scroll with new messages
21:39:14  <glx> another catalina issue ?
21:39:20  <andythenorth> yup
21:39:32  <dwfreed> you are running an outdated version of catalina
21:39:36  <andythenorth> colloquy is an ancient unmaintained irc client
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21:39:54  <dwfreed> that too
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21:43:43  <andythenorth> TrueBrain oooops
21:43:52  <andythenorth> I did the resize with 'nearest neighbour' on
21:43:58  <TrueBrain> ah
21:44:01  <andythenorth> which is the usual for pixel art, but not screenshots eh
21:44:02  <TrueBrain> that explains a lot :D
21:44:07  <andythenorth> I'll fix them
21:44:18  <TrueBrain> you are the best :D
21:44:32  <andythenorth> can I reuse same PR? :P
21:44:43  <glx> no it's merged
21:45:19  <LordAro> you can reuse the same branch
21:45:22  <andythenorth> ok
21:45:26  <LordAro> no difference from your end
21:45:32  <LordAro> probably need to rebase it
21:51:11  <andythenorth> can I rebase -i on the previous commit?
21:51:40  <LordAro> HEAD
21:51:51  <LordAro> HEAD~1 *
21:52:08  <andythenorth> I mean can I just fix the images, squash the commits and force push?
21:52:35  <TrueBrain> no you silly :)
21:52:41  <TrueBrain> it is already running in production
21:52:44  <TrueBrain> you cannot change history :P
21:52:54  <TrueBrain> it has to be a new commit
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21:55:28  <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/website] andythenorth opened pull request #153: Fix: fix pixelated screenshot thumbs https://git.io/JvD3N
21:55:37  <andythenorth> this irc client is horrible
21:55:40  <LordAro> fix fix
21:55:40  * andythenorth must try more
21:56:00  <andythenorth> oh silly andythenorth
21:57:33  <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/website] andythenorth updated pull request #153: Fix: pixelated screenshot thumbs https://git.io/JvD3N
21:59:20  <andythenorth> this weird giant laptop is weird
22:04:38  <andythenorth> also bedtime
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22:05:34  <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/website] TrueBrain approved pull request #153: Fix: pixelated screenshot thumbs https://git.io/JvDsk
22:06:43  <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/website] TrueBrain merged pull request #153: Fix: pixelated screenshot thumbs https://git.io/JvD3N
22:13:57  <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/website] TrueBrain commented on pull request #153: Fix: pixelated screenshot thumbs https://git.io/JvDsY
22:15:46  <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/website] glx22 commented on pull request #153: Fix: pixelated screenshot thumbs https://git.io/JvDsZ
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22:36:49  <nielsm> lots of entries for the title screen ticking in now
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