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Log for #openttd on 25th March 2020:
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08:10:03  <peter1138> hi
08:10:34  <Wolf01> o/
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08:55:03  <andythenorth> oof oftc keeps dumping me in this new irc client
08:55:10  <andythenorth> other irc servers stay up :P
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11:35:11  <Samu> hi
11:36:13  <andythenorth> hi
11:49:03  <rotterdxm> hi!
11:50:07  <LordAro> !ih
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12:16:10  <supermop_Home> ooof
12:18:58  <supermop_Home> blue jeans mtg with client and another of their consultants in Sweden = 8 am video call after working til 3:30 on materials for the call
12:19:08  <andythenorth> ouch
12:19:15  <supermop_Home> really hoping i can avoid turning my camera on
12:19:26  <supermop_Home> its not a pretty sight
12:20:25  <Samu> why's that cloning a vehicle in test mode costs 0?
12:20:40  <Samu> as an AI
12:20:52  <supermop_Home> i want to clone a coffee for 0 cost
12:23:17  <Samu> another visual studio update... geee, will they ever stop?
12:24:05  <supermop_Home> how's borisland andythenorth?
12:25:03  <andythenorth> sunny
12:29:30  <Samu> must investigate why CloneVehicle in test mode costs 0
12:29:37  <Samu> but first, lunch
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12:46:22  <supermop_Home> oof this call is scheduled to be 4 hours long
12:56:27  <andythenorth> FML?
12:56:48  <andythenorth> has anyone yet said "I'm going for a poo?"
12:59:19  <Eddi|zuHause> you mean, today? :p
12:59:33  <andythenorth> on that call :P
13:00:03  <supermop_Home> haha
13:00:11  <supermop_Home> i'm on mute
13:01:08  <supermop_Home> 1 hour in we are at least 15 min behind the agenda
13:01:31  <andythenorth> I'm usually 1 hour behind 15 mins in
13:01:34  <supermop_Home> so maybe it will be a bonus 5 hour call
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14:06:41  <Samu> found the problem
14:06:54  <Samu> the command failed
14:07:08  <Samu> for failed commands, it doesn't get the estimated cost :(
14:07:26  <Samu> but it failed because there was not enough money
14:07:39  <Samu> that should be the estimated cost to display
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14:10:38  <planetmaker> good when you can or even should mute yourself and have no video :)
14:37:29  <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] SamuXarick opened issue #8045: AI estimated costs are 0 for commands that fail while returning a cost https://git.io/JvSaL
14:43:04  <Samu> who's a DoCommand expert here? :o
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14:47:04  <Samu> i have a "fix", but it's a risky one
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15:04:42  <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] SamuXarick opened pull request #8046: Fix #8045: [AI/GS] Estimate costs for failed commands https://git.io/JvSaM
15:06:38  <Samu> I may expect a regression fail in this case
15:06:46  <Samu> depends on what it does
15:14:35  <Samu> wow, didn't fail
15:14:59  <LordAro> Samu: you should try to improve the regression test in which case
15:19:02  <Samu> for this particular test, regression needs to have no money to clone a vehicle
15:19:20  <Samu> regression as far as I see, works with 500k money
15:20:03  <LordAro> you just need to try to do something that would be too expensive
15:20:08  <LordAro> try to delete the ocean or something
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15:39:52  <Samu> oh, in human company, it errors out, with the cost needed
15:40:04  <Samu> still, it returns the cost
15:43:16  <Samu> https://i.imgur.com/UoqtliQ.png
15:43:34  <Samu> i pressed shift-click
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16:02:01  <Samu> What my AI does: It estimates the cost needed first, then loans necessary money and buys vehicle, it does this until it builds all aircraft or until it runs out of money   https://i.imgur.com/nA9GIJm.png
16:03:03  <Samu> estimated clone vehicle cost was 0 for 1.10, it loaned 0 and tried to build aircraft :(
16:03:08  <Samu> failed
16:03:19  <LordAro> don't ramble, Samu
16:04:48  <rotterdxm> X)
16:05:42  <rotterdxm> i blame coronavirus induced isolation, it´s happening everywhere
16:11:04  <Samu> now I remember why I had 2 different clone vehicle functions on my ai
16:56:34  <rotterdxm> wow hardcore internet trouble in NL
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17:31:58  <Wolf01> I just scolded the boss.
17:42:00  <Eddi|zuHause> did it help?
17:42:45  <Wolf01> I don't know, I sent an email to the entire team, I think it's coming here to kill me
17:49:17  <rotterdxm> depends on how popular your boss is
17:49:42  <rotterdxm> can the sound of guillotines being erected be heard in your cubicle? you may be safe
17:51:33  <Eddi|zuHause> cubicle? home office more likely
17:51:51  <Wolf01> The fact he didn't reply yet may mean that he acknowledged his own fault (usually he doesn't excuse for that)
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18:34:49  <Samu> i tried enabling disasters
18:35:22  <Samu> zepellins crashing into small airports make my AI bankrupt!
18:38:26  <Samu> incredibly difficult :p
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18:43:54  <Samu> now that I want the zepelin to crash, it doesn't happen
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19:10:08  <Wolf01> Samu: it's not difficult to write zellepins ;)
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19:38:46  <andythenorth> quiet eh
19:39:12  <andythenorth> I have been playing OpenTTD but eh
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19:46:27  <Samu> I upped the difficulty to recessions: on, disasters: on, breakdowns: normal and now testing if the ai survives this
19:47:07  <Samu> disasters are only trouble in 1950s
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19:52:30  <Samu> t.t bankrupted
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19:55:06  <Samu> finally got the zeppelin crash [img]https://i.imgur.com/VdU0FUj.png[/img]
19:55:42  <Samu> eats profits for 1 year
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20:06:51  <Eddi|zuHause> i've been playing stellaris, but it's going not-quite-right
20:07:03  <Samu> recession in 1980, lasting 1 year https://i.imgur.com/eIteU3E.png
20:07:11  <Samu> i don't see my AI surviving this...
20:07:15  <Samu> for long
20:07:37  <Eddi|zuHause> like, i've bought the federations dlc, and then started an isolationist empire that can't join a federation :p
20:09:42  <Eddi|zuHause> and also, as an isolationist empire, i'm constantly thinking "if only i could declare offensive war to capture this planet"...
20:11:06  <Samu> bankrupted in 1998 :( man, so sad
20:22:24  <Samu> i need to think when to spend money in town actions
20:24:29  <Samu> building statues and advertising campaigns is cool, but... under these conditions is risky
20:31:29  <Samu> bankrupted in 2001 t.t
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21:07:49  <Samu> wow, AI is picking Airtaxi A21 instead of Darwin 600
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21:08:15  <Samu> ah, I see, it's due to reliability
21:09:02  <Samu> damn it, bankrupted in 2002
21:18:07  <Samu> testing making the AI a bit more picky about placing airports
21:19:29  <Samu> now it requires 12 houses producing passengers around a suitable place for airport
21:19:38  <Samu> instead of... any
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22:16:37  <Wolf01> https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aGgQ6GG_460s.jpg hmmmm
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23:19:59  <Eddi|zuHause> how are there 4 names for meals, when there should be only 3?
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