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12:20:40 <Samu> as an AI 12:20:52 <supermop_Home> i want to clone a coffee for 0 cost 12:23:17 <Samu> another visual studio update... geee, will they ever stop? 12:24:05 <supermop_Home> how's borisland andythenorth? 12:25:03 <andythenorth> sunny 12:29:30 <Samu> must investigate why CloneVehicle in test mode costs 0 12:29:37 <Samu> but first, lunch 12:33:32 *** Lejving_ has joined #openttd 12:33:38 *** Arveen2 has joined #openttd 12:40:21 *** Arveen has quit IRC 12:40:21 *** Lejving has quit IRC 12:45:17 *** gelignite has quit IRC 12:46:22 <supermop_Home> oof this call is scheduled to be 4 hours long 12:56:27 <andythenorth> FML? 12:56:48 <andythenorth> has anyone yet said "I'm going for a poo?" 12:59:19 <Eddi|zuHause> you mean, today? :p 12:59:33 <andythenorth> on that call :P 13:00:03 <supermop_Home> haha 13:00:11 <supermop_Home> i'm on mute 13:01:08 <supermop_Home> 1 hour in we are at least 15 min behind the agenda 13:01:31 <andythenorth> I'm usually 1 hour behind 15 mins in 13:01:34 <supermop_Home> so maybe it will be a bonus 5 hour call 13:22:11 *** snail_UES_ has joined #openttd 14:03:27 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttd 14:06:41 <Samu> found the problem 14:06:54 <Samu> the command failed 14:07:08 <Samu> for failed commands, it doesn't get the estimated cost :( 14:07:26 <Samu> but it failed because there was not enough money 14:07:39 <Samu> that should be the estimated cost to display 14:09:15 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 14:10:38 <planetmaker> good when you can or even should mute yourself and have no video :) 14:37:29 <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] SamuXarick opened issue #8045: AI estimated costs are 0 for commands that fail while returning a cost https://git.io/JvSaL 14:43:04 <Samu> who's a DoCommand expert here? :o 14:44:39 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 14:47:04 <Samu> i have a "fix", but it's a risky one 14:47:46 *** Flygon has quit IRC 15:04:42 <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] SamuXarick opened pull request #8046: Fix #8045: [AI/GS] Estimate costs for failed commands https://git.io/JvSaM 15:06:38 <Samu> I may expect a regression fail in this case 15:06:46 <Samu> depends on what it does 15:14:35 <Samu> wow, didn't fail 15:14:59 <LordAro> Samu: you should try to improve the regression test in which case 15:19:02 <Samu> for this particular test, regression needs to have no money to clone a vehicle 15:19:20 <Samu> regression as far as I see, works with 500k money 15:20:03 <LordAro> you just need to try to do something that would be too expensive 15:20:08 <LordAro> try to delete the ocean or something 15:25:59 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 15:39:52 <Samu> oh, in human company, it errors out, with the cost needed 15:40:04 <Samu> still, it returns the cost 15:43:16 <Samu> https://i.imgur.com/UoqtliQ.png 15:43:34 <Samu> i pressed shift-click 15:43:54 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 16:02:01 <Samu> What my AI does: It estimates the cost needed first, then loans necessary money and buys vehicle, it does this until it builds all aircraft or until it runs out of money https://i.imgur.com/nA9GIJm.png 16:03:03 <Samu> estimated clone vehicle cost was 0 for 1.10, it loaned 0 and tried to build aircraft :( 16:03:08 <Samu> failed 16:03:19 <LordAro> don't ramble, Samu 16:04:48 <rotterdxm> X) 16:05:42 <rotterdxm> i blame coronavirus induced isolation, it´s happening everywhere 16:11:04 <Samu> now I remember why I had 2 different clone vehicle functions on my ai 16:56:34 <rotterdxm> wow hardcore internet trouble in NL 17:00:20 *** rotterdxm has quit IRC 17:00:34 *** rotterdxm has joined #openttd 17:31:58 <Wolf01> I just scolded the boss. 17:42:00 <Eddi|zuHause> did it help? 17:42:45 <Wolf01> I don't know, I sent an email to the entire team, I think it's coming here to kill me 17:49:17 <rotterdxm> depends on how popular your boss is 17:49:42 <rotterdxm> can the sound of guillotines being erected be heard in your cubicle? you may be safe 17:51:33 <Eddi|zuHause> cubicle? home office more likely 17:51:51 <Wolf01> The fact he didn't reply yet may mean that he acknowledged his own fault (usually he doesn't excuse for that) 18:22:40 *** Progman has joined #openttd 18:34:49 <Samu> i tried enabling disasters 18:35:22 <Samu> zepellins crashing into small airports make my AI bankrupt! 18:38:26 <Samu> incredibly difficult :p 18:42:50 *** glx has joined #openttd 18:42:50 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 18:43:54 <Samu> now that I want the zepelin to crash, it doesn't happen 18:50:33 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 19:10:08 <Wolf01> Samu: it's not difficult to write zellepins ;) 19:33:44 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 19:33:53 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 19:37:04 *** Progman has quit IRC 19:38:46 <andythenorth> quiet eh 19:39:12 <andythenorth> I have been playing OpenTTD but eh 19:43:11 *** Wormnest_ has joined #openttd 19:46:27 <Samu> I upped the difficulty to recessions: on, disasters: on, breakdowns: normal and now testing if the ai survives this 19:47:07 <Samu> disasters are only trouble in 1950s 19:48:37 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 19:52:30 <Samu> t.t bankrupted 19:53:39 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 19:54:14 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 19:55:06 <Samu> finally got the zeppelin crash [img]https://i.imgur.com/VdU0FUj.png[/img] 19:55:42 <Samu> eats profits for 1 year 19:56:09 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 20:06:51 <Eddi|zuHause> i've been playing stellaris, but it's going not-quite-right 20:07:03 <Samu> recession in 1980, lasting 1 year https://i.imgur.com/eIteU3E.png 20:07:11 <Samu> i don't see my AI surviving this... 20:07:15 <Samu> for long 20:07:37 <Eddi|zuHause> like, i've bought the federations dlc, and then started an isolationist empire that can't join a federation :p 20:09:42 <Eddi|zuHause> and also, as an isolationist empire, i'm constantly thinking "if only i could declare offensive war to capture this planet"... 20:11:06 <Samu> bankrupted in 1998 :( man, so sad 20:22:24 <Samu> i need to think when to spend money in town actions 20:24:29 <Samu> building statues and advertising campaigns is cool, but... under these conditions is risky 20:31:29 <Samu> bankrupted in 2001 t.t 20:47:50 *** Progman has joined #openttd 21:05:38 *** Wormnest_ has quit IRC 21:07:49 <Samu> wow, AI is picking Airtaxi A21 instead of Darwin 600 21:07:51 *** nielsm has quit IRC 21:08:15 <Samu> ah, I see, it's due to reliability 21:09:02 <Samu> damn it, bankrupted in 2002 21:18:07 <Samu> testing making the AI a bit more picky about placing airports 21:19:29 <Samu> now it requires 12 houses producing passengers around a suitable place for airport 21:19:38 <Samu> instead of... any 21:20:54 *** Wormnest_ has joined #openttd 21:28:58 *** Wormnest_ has quit IRC 21:33:57 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 21:34:31 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 21:43:28 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 21:49:44 *** rotterdxm has quit IRC 22:16:37 <Wolf01> https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aGgQ6GG_460s.jpg hmmmm 22:21:01 *** Wormnest_ has joined #openttd 22:23:03 *** Samu has quit IRC 22:39:30 *** Progman has quit IRC 22:56:24 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 22:58:56 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 23:11:54 *** tokai|noir has joined #openttd 23:11:54 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai|noir 23:13:33 *** Wormnest_ has quit IRC 23:18:43 *** tokai has quit IRC 23:19:15 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 23:19:59 <Eddi|zuHause> how are there 4 names for meals, when there should be only 3? 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