Log for #openttd on 17th September 2020:
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07:33:35  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/DorpsGek] TrueBrain merged pull request #31: Synchronize Docker-files with other repositories
07:34:02  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/DorpsGek] TrueBrain created new tag: 1.0.9
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07:37:38  <DorpsGek_III_> [OpenTTD/master-server] TrueBrain updated pull request #11: Switch to GitHub Container Registry
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07:38:01  <TrueBrain> oops, that was SLIGHTLY too early :P
07:41:02  <TrueBrain> so who wants to review 7 near-identical PRs? :D
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08:15:18  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/master-server] TrueBrain opened pull request #12: Fix: demand PROXY protocol header for every UDP packet
08:17:48  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/master-server] TrueBrain updated pull request #12: Fix: demand PROXY protocol header for every UDP packet
08:20:44  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/master-server] TrueBrain updated pull request #12: Fix: demand PROXY protocol header for every UDP packet
08:24:39  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/master-server] LordAro approved pull request #11: Switch to GitHub Container Registry
08:25:07  <TrueBrain> LordAro: the good thing, if you read one, you read all 7 :P
08:25:28  <LordAro> TrueBrain: i've got to find all 7 first :p
08:25:37  <TrueBrain> that is what IRC is for
08:26:10  <LordAro> a cause for concern at all?
08:26:13  <TrueBrain> but:
08:26:31  <LordAro> ta
08:26:52  <TrueBrain> LordAro: ish ... sometimes it just fails .. it will fix itself soon enough, or it can be retriggered
08:27:44  <TrueBrain> basically it went too fast
08:27:50  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/website] LordAro approved pull request #167: Switch to GitHub Container Registry
08:29:05  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/bananas-api] LordAro approved pull request #70: Switch to GitHub Container Registry
08:29:23  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/bananas-server] LordAro approved pull request #30: Switch to GitHub Container Registry
08:29:57  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/bananas-frontend-web] LordAro approved pull request #42: Switch to GitHub Container Registry
08:30:06  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/master-server-web] LordAro approved pull request #9: Switch to GitHub Container Registry
08:30:39  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/binaries-redirect] LordAro approved pull request #4: Switch to GitHub Container Registry
08:30:47  <LordAro> i think that's all of them? :p
08:31:01  <TrueBrain> I think so too :) Only left, but that is a completely different change :D
08:31:17  <TrueBrain> tnx LordAro :) Redeploying everything on AWS as we speak, after that: MERGE TIME :D
08:32:16  <TrueBrain> AWS deployment will take 3 minutes times 14 services ... euhm .. yeah, this will be a while :D
08:32:36  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/master-server] LordAro approved pull request #12: Fix: demand PROXY protocol header for every UDP packet
08:32:42  <TrueBrain> ty kind
08:32:42  <LordAro> \o/
08:33:49  <LordAro> i should probably start work now
08:33:54  <TrueBrain> no more Docker Hub for the infrastructure, which is nice
08:33:59  <TrueBrain> work? What is that concept? :D
08:34:11  <TrueBrain> aren't you already late if you start now? :P
08:34:17  <andythenorth> what is time?
08:34:19  <andythenorth> what is that concept?
08:36:51  <LordAro> ^
08:37:05  <TrueBrain> <- I like how ugly this page looks :D
08:37:23  <TrueBrain> it really says: WE ARE NOT WEB-GUYS :P
08:37:24  <andythenorth> ouch
08:37:33  <LordAro> does need some more spacing
08:37:41  <LordAro> other than that... eh
08:37:44  <andythenorth> it's only 1 commit away from being better
08:38:03  <TrueBrain> LordAro: the tags have an extra |, which is just: fuck-this, I am out
08:38:05  <TrueBrain> spacing is all wrong
08:38:09  <TrueBrain> font-size is all over the place
08:38:14  <TrueBrain> visual spacing is broken
08:38:15  <LordAro> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
08:38:23  <TrueBrain> and so much more :P
08:38:35  <LordAro> <br/><br/><br/><br/><br/><br/><br/>
08:38:38  <LordAro> sorted.
08:39:10  <TrueBrain> but okay, you should try uploading something for shit and giggles
08:39:14  <TrueBrain> that interface is even worse :P
08:39:16  <andythenorth> no you shouldn't
08:39:17  <TrueBrain> it is fully functional
08:39:19  <TrueBrain> so I am happy
08:39:23  <andythenorth> I am not :P
08:39:32  <TrueBrain> it is just ... someone with web-knowledge should take a crack at it :)
08:39:45  <andythenorth> I talked to frosch about it earlier this year
08:39:55  <andythenorth> frosch said 'later in 2020'
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08:40:13  <andythenorth> due to I will only get pissed off if I start making changes and they don't get reviewed
08:40:28  <andythenorth> or they get nitpicked by people who don't really know what they are doing
08:40:39  <TrueBrain> owh boy, who flipped this switch again
08:40:43  <andythenorth> so new website for Christmas?
08:41:19  <TrueBrain> I wonder if we haven't someone on the forums or something that would like a nice UX challenge
08:43:48  <andythenorth> I rained on the last volunteer's parade :(
08:48:11  <TrueBrain> can I call you big-grumpy-teddy-bear?
08:50:49  <andythenorth> that's a thing in gay culture I believe, but I am open-minded
08:50:56  <andythenorth> I am also not big
08:51:27  <TrueBrain> and you are .. a teddy-bear? :P
08:51:31  <andythenorth> hmm, I am waiting for a Visa verification code to arrive so I can buy a tool And Get Some Work Done
08:51:51  <andythenorth> so I read Twitter, and the ads are all for how easy Visa is
08:51:58  <andythenorth> PYSCH
09:08:36  <TrueBrain> this server started as: "Newbie no password company auto clean" .. it is now "Newbie no password company auto clean purchase land prohibition" :)
09:08:40  <TrueBrain> It seems the newbie is learning :P
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09:15:53  <TrueBrain> pff, AWS deployment is still in progress ...
09:27:43  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/bananas-api] TrueBrain merged pull request #70: Switch to GitHub Container Registry
09:36:12  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/bananas-server] TrueBrain merged pull request #30: Switch to GitHub Container Registry
09:36:26  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/bananas-frontend-web] TrueBrain merged pull request #42: Switch to GitHub Container Registry
09:36:36  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/master-server] TrueBrain merged pull request #11: Switch to GitHub Container Registry
09:36:48  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/master-server-web] TrueBrain merged pull request #9: Switch to GitHub Container Registry
09:37:01  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/binaries-redirect] TrueBrain merged pull request #4: Switch to GitHub Container Registry
09:37:18  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/website] TrueBrain merged pull request #167: Switch to GitHub Container Registry
09:37:47  <LordAro> redeploy all the things!
09:38:09  <TrueBrain> :D
09:38:29  <TrueBrain> these kind of changes are just shitty
09:38:38  <TrueBrain> but I noticed GitHub Actions now allows you to share workflows between repositories
09:38:40  <TrueBrain> that can be useful
09:43:11  <LordAro> deduplicate all the python stuff?
09:43:54  <TrueBrain> no, deduplicate all the YAML stuff
09:44:04  <TrueBrain> <- our new home for Docker Images
09:44:06  <LordAro> all the python workflow stuff*
09:44:18  <LordAro> nice
09:44:45  <TrueBrain> well, the Python workflow stuff is not that bothers me a lot .. the publish/deployment workflows are nearly identical
09:44:50  <TrueBrain> I made 1 patch, and applied that to 8 repositories
09:44:52  <TrueBrain> I mean ..
09:44:54  <TrueBrain> that is just silly :P
09:45:38  <TrueBrain> okay, time to provision our new NLBs with a fix for the PROXY protocol .. pam pam pammmmm
09:47:04  <TrueBrain> anyway, I do need to read up how workflow sharing really works .. as I guess that also allows to break all repositories in a single place :P
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09:49:23  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/master-server] TrueBrain merged pull request #12: Fix: demand PROXY protocol header for every UDP packet
09:56:10  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/bananas-api] TrueBrain created new tag: 1.0.3
09:56:18  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/bananas-server] TrueBrain created new tag: 1.0.11
09:56:28  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/bananas-frontend-web] TrueBrain created new tag: 1.0.4
09:58:16  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/binaries-redirect] TrueBrain created new tag: 1.0.2
09:59:20  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/website] TrueBrain created new tag: 1.4.1
10:00:01  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/master-server] TrueBrain created new tag: 1.0.5
10:00:10  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/master-server-web] TrueBrain created new tag: 1.0.3
10:00:13  <TrueBrain> okay, that is enough spam
10:03:13  <LordAro> :)
10:06:26  <TrueBrain> okay, 1 of the deployments was a bit slower than normal, otherwise it deployed just fine :P
10:06:31  <TrueBrain> funny, how AWS scales :D
10:08:34  <TrueBrain> ah, and 1 deployment acted weird because I hit the memory reservation limit on the cluster
10:08:37  <TrueBrain> :D
10:09:24  <TrueBrain> real usage is ~25%, but reservation is 80%
10:09:29  <TrueBrain> guess I can lower some upper limits :)
10:09:51  <TrueBrain> what is a good value to aim for, is the question
11:20:11  <TrueBrain> we have 6 subdomains pointing to github ... :D (,, etc)
11:20:25  <TrueBrain> I wonder if we should just drop them, now I think about it ..
11:20:49  <TrueBrain> the endless "keeping links alive" is not always useful
11:22:02  <TrueBrain> and poef, just like that, they are gone
11:22:11  <LordAro> :o
11:22:53  <TrueBrain>
11:22:57  <TrueBrain> lol .. that is .. euh .. out-of-date :P
11:36:17  <TrueBrain> right, time to deploy a gazillion redirect domains on AWS ..
11:37:20  <TrueBrain> the worst part is doing the certificates tbh
11:44:27  <TrueBrain> especially as AWS seems to be in a bad mood, and it takes for ever to validate DNS ..
11:56:55  <TrueBrain> there are days, the ACM works fine, quick, and it isn't an issue ... there are other days, like this, where it exceeds any expectation of "how horrible can this really be?"
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11:57:16  <TrueBrain> over 30 minutes, and the domain still isn't validated, while it is on Route53 ... (and yes, when I try to resolve it, it works fine)
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12:03:26  <SpComb> ACM DNS validations do need plenty of patience
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12:04:09  <TrueBrain> last week it was < 1 minute .. which made me think: THEY FIXED IT
12:04:12  <TrueBrain> but .. no .. they did not
12:04:19  <TrueBrain> main issue is that after 15 minutes, CDK says: fuck this, I am out
12:04:33  <TrueBrain> makes deployments VERY difficult ..
12:06:23  <TrueBrain> Requested at	2020-09-07T11:39:10UTC
12:06:23  <TrueBrain> Issued at	2020-09-07T11:39:40UTC
12:06:26  <TrueBrain> see, it is possible!
12:07:47  <TrueBrain> I still suspect it is a queue issue, where too many certificates are being requested and the system is taking for ever to query them ..
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12:30:51  <TrueBrain> I dread the day I have to quickly spin up a new certificate on AWS ... that is like .... 50/50 odds :P
12:31:26  <TrueBrain> 40 minutes in, still not validated ..
12:31:44  <TrueBrain> is someone manually checking this or something? :P
12:48:28  <SpComb> I blame DNS
12:49:21  <SpComb> and outside of ACM, it's normalnfor certificates to take a week to get purchased, verified and maybe even deployed :D
12:49:44  <SpComb> one hour for ACM validations isn't thst bad in perspective
13:15:38  <TrueBrain> Maybe 5 years ago, but letsencrypt has shown it is not of this time
13:15:53  <TrueBrain> My biggest issue with ACM is the randomized time it takes
13:16:13  <TrueBrain> If you cannot predict.. it becomes difficult to handle
13:22:59  <TrueBrain> lol .. still pending .. 90 minutes and counting :)
13:23:23  <TrueBrain> I have had various of times I had to wait ..this is a new one :P
13:24:56  <TrueBrain> it is funny, CDK, also produced by AWS, cuts off the waiting after 15 minutes .. clearly indicating they expect it to be done before that time ..
13:25:32  <TrueBrain> but okay, guess I will not be deploying some new subdomains today .. tnx AWS .. tnx for giving me the information needed to come to that conclusion BEFOREhand ..
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13:58:50  <TrueBrain> I start to think these will never validate ... 2 hours, still nothing :)
14:05:21  <Eddi|zuHause> is that a case of "it's either done in seconds, or never"?
14:08:04  <TrueBrain> well, I had <1 min, ~3 minute, ~18 minutes, and now this time .. when-ever it is going to finish :P
14:08:19  <TrueBrain> so it is more: depending how close the Moon is to Venus
14:27:12  <TrueBrain> okay, it is only a problem in us-east-1 .. so at least it is not me or a configuration
14:27:15  <TrueBrain> it is something with AWS
14:27:16  <TrueBrain> lovely
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15:13:47  <TrueBrain> closing in on 3 hours ... lolz.
15:14:18  <TrueBrain> done with it, "delete certificate"-> "yes"
15:14:22  <TrueBrain> there, now it is gone
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16:38:19  <TrueBrain> grr, still can't provision certificates on us-east-1 ... this is just annoying
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16:43:48  <TrueBrain> owh owh owh, one passed!
16:43:49  <TrueBrain> \o/
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17:19:41  <TrueBrain> okay, giving up on this crap today :P
17:19:48  <TrueBrain> stupid AWS ACM :(
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18:22:33  <TrueBrain> <- at least I fixed the memory slowly creeping up :)
18:22:59  <TrueBrain> for comparison how it was before :P
18:24:28  <frosch123> cool
18:24:45  <frosch123> maybe fff can be replaced with tbtf
18:25:56  <TrueBrain> fff?
18:26:17  <frosch123> factorio friday facts stopped 1 month ago with the 1.0 release
18:26:54  <TrueBrain> you miss it that much? :P
18:27:01  <frosch123> aka some nerdy text with fancy pictures
18:27:54  <TrueBrain> oeh, us-east-1 provisioned my cert within a minute :o
18:28:09  <frosch123> TrueBrain: nerdy stuff usually comes in bursts, and are hard to manage
18:28:29  <TrueBrain> nerds cannot be managed, period :P
18:28:36  <TrueBrain> you guide them to selfenlightment
18:29:01  <andythenorth> nerds can be managed
18:29:06  <frosch123> cppcon is only once a year. all the ccc events this year were canceled or were only digital (which is not suitable for the interesting topics)
18:29:08  <andythenorth> you just tell them what the game is and how to get 10/10
18:29:11  <andythenorth> then they play
18:29:59  <frosch123> fff was a very constant supply
18:30:27  <frosch123> and #openttd is more like a daily soap
18:30:43  <TrueBrain> currently #openttd is just a monologue I am afraid :P
18:30:50  <TrueBrain> with the hecklers from time to time
18:32:10  <frosch123> hmm, new term learned
18:32:21  <TrueBrain> monologue?
18:32:24  <TrueBrain> :D
18:32:32  <frosch123> no, "heckler"
18:32:46  <TrueBrain> I watch too many comedians :)
18:33:38  <TrueBrain> Jimmy Carr is good at dealing with hecklers; mostly pretty funny :)
18:43:55  <TrueBrain> ha, it was not only me having issues with certificates .. it is now an ongoing issue :P
18:43:59  <TrueBrain> took them long enough to notice ..
18:47:30  <andythenorth> the magic has failed
18:47:33  <andythenorth> ACM is super magic
18:51:24  <TrueBrain> finally managed to provision 12 certificates .. w00p :)
19:02:06  <TrueBrain> frosch123: btw, I threw out all subdomains "svn, svn-archive, git, hg, vcs" .. they still used to redirect to GitHub .. but after 2 years I hope everyone got the message :P
19:02:13  <TrueBrain> only the subdomain "github" still exists, for the lazy person
19:03:30  <TrueBrain> and .. I think I did the redirecting correct ..
19:06:53  <TrueBrain> so tomorrow I will bring that to production, which removes even more URLs pointing to the old infra :D \o/
19:09:38  <LordAro> woop
19:15:08  <andythenorth> cleaning house
19:15:15  <andythenorth> so cathartic?
19:15:52  <frosch123> did you find any exotic animal?
19:26:22  <andythenorth> only a TrueBrain
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19:28:58  <frosch123> can we get more of them, if you clean more often?
19:29:33  <frosch123> (this is such a bs and heckler channel)
19:31:10  <andythenorth> where is Eddi|zuHause anyway
19:31:29  <Eddi|zuHause> distracted?
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20:27:43  <supermop_Home_> andythenorth trying to build a complex station throat junction?
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