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Log for #openttd on 19th September 2020:
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00:15:14  <Eddi|zuHause> i'm not convinced that this is a standardized error https://http.cat/420 :p
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03:25:26  <Gustavo6046> ack, sorryy!
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03:48:41  <supermop_Home_> well we're screwed
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04:24:16  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler commented on issue #8261: Suggestion: Add NewGRF global variable for industry density https://git.io/JJkWo
04:24:16  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler closed issue #8261: Suggestion: Add NewGRF global variable for industry density https://git.io/JJkWo
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07:02:55  <andythenorth_> o/
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08:49:25  <TrueBrain> there, grfsearch also switched to new infra :)
08:51:00  <andythenorth> \o/
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11:28:37  <TrueBrain> now I am really blocked by others .. hmm ..
11:28:47  <TrueBrain> owh, no, I can do supybot migration!
11:30:35  <LordAro> :o
11:31:34  <TrueBrain> and I guess I can look into the PR for eints, see if I can fix my own comments :D
11:31:42  <TrueBrain> but wiki remains the real issue tbfh
11:31:50  <TrueBrain> launch it on its own EC2 instance you say? :P
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11:45:02  <tokai> Played a bit OpenTTD yesterday on the RaspberryPI, but no sound. Somehow less fun when the busses don't honk. :D  (yeah, looks like I'm too stupid for Linux still… no idea how to fix the issue :) )
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13:30:14  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/eints] frosch123 commented on pull request #5: Add github-based authentication and authorization https://git.io/JUEC8
13:32:16  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/eints] frosch123 commented on pull request #5: Add github-based authentication and authorization https://git.io/JUEC4
13:33:09  <frosch123> when i look at the individual commits, there are a lot more comments than in the main pr....
13:33:12  <frosch123> gh broken again
13:33:48  <TrueBrain> :(
13:35:34  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/eints] frosch123 commented on pull request #5: Add github-based authentication and authorization https://git.io/JUEC0
13:35:43  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/eints] frosch123 commented on pull request #5: Add github-based authentication and authorization https://2020-09-19T13:48:53  <TrueBrain> basically, atm, I would be happy if GitHub logins work :P
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14:36:06  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/eints] frosch123 updated pull request #5: Add github-based authentication and authorization https://git.io/Jv2k1
14:36:15  <frosch123> no idea what to do with requirements.txt
14:37:03  <frosch123> depending on the settings in config.xml, it either needs requests-oauthlib, postgres or other libs
14:38:06  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/eints] frosch123 commented on pull request #5: Add github-based authentication and authorization https://git.io/JUEWx
14:39:37  <TrueBrain> Lol.. yeah, you need a setup.py for that
14:40:08  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/eints] frosch123 commented on pull request #5: Add github-based authentication and authorization https://git.io/JUElJ
14:40:22  <TrueBrain> Well, I need to make this deploable anyway, guess we do that on the OpenTTD fork with a requirements.txt for our setup
14:40:29  <frosch123> TrueBrain: but i actually do not want to support those redmine things :)O
14:40:42  <frosch123> TrueBrain: it is currently not container ready
14:41:05  <frosch123> you cannot just start eints, you need the local setup of the project
14:41:14  <frosch123> and the git push/pull infrastructure
14:41:33  <frosch123> we can deploy it to the current eints vm, and get rid of the translator mail
14:41:46  <frosch123> but we cannot yet get rid of the eints vm, and move stuff into aws
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14:43:28  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/eints] frosch123 commented on pull request #5: Add github-based authentication and authorization https://git.io/JUElY
14:44:27  <FLHerne> azubieta: Hi :-)
14:44:51  <TrueBrain> Pffft, but ooookkkaaaayyyyy :D
14:45:14  <FLHerne> An AppImage would definitely be worth having, people (inc. me) have been complaining ever since the 'generic linux' binaries went away
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14:47:50  <FLHerne> I guess that would mean some script to download a suitable Docker image to build OTTD in, and maybe some more metadata?
15:00:06  <TrueBrain> frosch123: you tested the PR, as in, it works?
15:00:51  <frosch123> it worked in march :p
15:01:31  <frosch123> i did not really test it after todays stuff
15:01:53  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/eints] TrueBrain approved pull request #5: Add github-based authentication and authorization https://git.io/JUElx
15:02:04  <TrueBrain> you might want to before merging
15:02:07  <TrueBrain> but honestly .. YOLO :)
15:03:18  <TrueBrain> if you like, I can snapshot the VM before we update it on the VM?
15:03:58  <TrueBrain> well, just did make a snapshot, as they are almost free anyway :)
15:04:08  <TrueBrain> after merge, you give it a spin to update the VM? Or do you want me to?
15:13:42  <frosch123> will check later, late afternoon is too hot here
15:18:42  <TrueBrain> :D
15:18:45  <TrueBrain> find some cold ;)
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16:17:36  <andythenorth> yo
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17:38:45  <frosch123> ah, right, i need that silly localhost https hack again
17:44:35  <frosch123> still seems to work :)
17:44:54  <andythenorth> :)
17:46:05  <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/eints] frosch123 merged pull request #5: Add github-based authentication and authorization https://git.io/Jv2k1
17:50:37  <andythenorth> hmm the Horse garratt should be able to run backwards
17:50:41  <andythenorth> can I be arsed?
17:51:29  <andythenorth> nope
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17:57:40  <frosch123> TrueBrain: do you remember whether we wanted to merge changes into openttd branch, or whether to force rebase it?
17:58:30  <TrueBrain> I always prefer force rebases, as it keeps it more readable what changes are applied
17:58:33  <TrueBrain> but that is personal preference
17:58:58  <frosch123> ok, i also prefer that, so i guess that's what we decided :)
18:04:00  <frosch123> hmm, i completely forgot the magic local sign-in for the scripts :/
18:05:27  <TrueBrain> most likely: ssh eints
18:05:28  <TrueBrain> :P
18:05:48  <frosch123> ok, abort. this is not a rebase... this is a new branch with a few cherry-picks :)
18:06:04  <TrueBrain> :D Sounds like a good plan ;)
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18:23:06  <TrueBrain> if I can help with anything frosch123 , let me know!
18:23:49  <frosch123> nah, deleting half of the commits is fun :)
18:24:18  <TrueBrain> :D :D
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19:30:06  <frosch123> TrueBrain: two commits to review: https://github.com/frosch123/eints/commit/339a1832402c72aa22bf8530223097d0c64ee6b9  https://github.com/frosch123/eints/commit/434cddb6f17add00083e792f5dcad014f66631bb
19:32:00  <frosch123> for the latter, it's view/root.tpl that's different
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19:48:40  <TrueBrain> Lgtm!
19:49:10  <TrueBrain> Cant remember what we need the local bypass for, just remember we do :p
19:50:11  <frosch123> it's the cronjob that uploads/downloads files between git working copy and eints
19:51:06  <frosch123> eints data files have no shared access, so everything has to go through the "api"
19:51:30  <TrueBrain> Ah, yes :)
19:51:40  <TrueBrain> Could be mentioned in the commit, but meh
19:52:32  <frosch123> i think we will get rid of it somewhen
19:53:57  <frosch123> ok, i'll put it into production tomorrow :)
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19:54:27  <TrueBrain> W00p
19:54:30  <TrueBrain> Awesome!!
19:54:31  <frosch123> then we only need to cleanup the website, and empty the contacts page :p
19:55:00  <TrueBrain> Empty? That sounds a bit drastic :p
19:56:02  <frosch123> well, i want something like "game play question -> ask forums or reddit; support questions -> ask forums or reddit; 10 other things -> ask forums or reddit; private matters -> info@"
19:56:21  <TrueBrain> Sounds good :)
19:56:24  <frosch123> and remove all the personal developer addresses
19:56:40  <TrueBrain> Does einst store data on disk other than the git?
19:56:47  <frosch123> yes
19:57:32  <frosch123> it stores the user and timestamp of each string, which is not present in git
19:57:46  <frosch123> and well, push is only once per day
19:57:57  <TrueBrain> In what? Sqlite?
19:58:09  <frosch123> no, custom json files
19:58:17  <frosch123> horribly slow and space consuming
19:58:38  <frosch123> i have a patch somewhere for turning it into sqlite
19:58:50  <TrueBrain> K.. then I might have an idea how to migrate it to AWS; but that is a project for next week :p
19:59:26  <TrueBrain> And talking about dev emails .. we still need a solution for email on @openttd.org
20:00:23  <frosch123> sure, but wiki is the real problem :)
20:00:48  <TrueBrain> All 3 are a problem .. eints, mail and wiki
20:01:02  <TrueBrain> Eints we got now, so I am happy
20:01:14  <TrueBrain> Email no clue yet .. drop dev email addresses?
20:01:35  <TrueBrain> Wiki .. still waiting for LordAro to upgrade mediawiki :p
20:01:45  <andythenorth_> then it is finished?
20:01:47  <andythenorth_> all for ever?
20:02:00  <frosch123> you wanted dev emails for something, like commit signing or so
20:02:05  <TrueBrain> Then the old infra can be shut down, yes
20:02:36  <TrueBrain> It is nice on GitHub to have devs use @openttd.org, yes
20:02:37  <frosch123> but info@ is needed, sadly
20:02:44  <TrueBrain> One mailbox is easy
20:02:57  <TrueBrain> Just 4 euro a month, so whatever
20:03:35  <frosch123> can we forward all others?
20:03:49  <TrueBrain> I think that is best
20:04:56  <TrueBrain> And host one
20:05:03  <TrueBrain> Yeah, that can work
20:05:32  <TrueBrain> And I kinda know how, now this said out loud
20:05:37  <TrueBrain> Cool, another one solved
20:05:46  <TrueBrain> So yeah, wiki ... ugh :p
20:06:33  <TrueBrain> But let's first focus on getting eints done ;)
20:06:39  <frosch123> the polish dude did not reply btw
20:06:51  <frosch123> i guess i can write something on their user page on the wiki
20:07:04  <frosch123> but otherwise there are no other contact options
20:07:46  <TrueBrain> Sounds like a plan
20:07:54  <TrueBrain> Otherwise .. sad, but is what it is
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21:06:13  <LordAro> TrueBrain: :<
21:10:00  <TrueBrain> <3
21:10:39  <TrueBrain> Wikis just suck .. :p
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21:14:06  <LordAro> TrueBrain: i guess part of the problem is that i don't qyite understand what form the (media)wiki would have to be in to be compatible with AWS
21:15:34  <TrueBrain> Dockerrrrrrr
21:16:29  <TrueBrain> Mostly we need to know what we want with the wiki tbfh
21:16:51  <TrueBrain> Gollum would be nice as it simplifies so many things, but mostly maintenance and upgrades
21:17:24  <TrueBrain> Mediawiki is just bleeding death atm as nobody is maintaining it, both from an infra point of view but also content wise
21:17:51  <TrueBrain> Dead? Typing is hard
21:18:23  <TrueBrain> An alternative might be to change to wiki into a Jekyll site tbh
21:18:44  <TrueBrain> And open up the repo to everyone (as in, free to edit, no PR)
21:19:05  <TrueBrain> Nearly the same as a wiki
21:19:49  <TrueBrain> Hmm, I wonder if frosch's scripts can do that :D
21:20:03  <LordAro> so i need to find/make a docker image that's self contained enough that it can be upgradable?
21:20:17  <LordAro> i do neee to learn how docker actually works...
21:20:21  * LordAro just does containers
21:20:26  <LordAro> need*
21:20:50  <TrueBrain> Well, I need an OCI container, if we want to be real strict
21:21:16  <TrueBrain> But I really doubt mediawiki is the right fit for OpenTTD
21:22:03  <LordAro> OCI container?
21:22:13  <TrueBrain> A docker container
21:22:53  <TrueBrain> The spec is nowadays defined by opencontainer
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