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00:03:05 *** arikover` has joined #openttd 00:10:24 *** arikover has quit IRC 00:15:38 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 01:14:32 *** Progman has quit IRC 01:23:14 *** arikover` has quit IRC 01:24:00 *** kane has joined #openttd 01:24:29 *** kane is now known as Guest4407 01:25:22 <Guest4407> Hello! Is it possible to change refresh rate of OpenTTD on Linux? I have 280hz monitor. I added display_hz = 280 to my config file, but nothing changed 01:41:58 <glx> display_hz is windows only 01:42:17 <Guest4407> Aw that sucks 01:43:03 <glx> and it's for fullscreen mode only 01:43:29 <glx> everything else should use desktop refresh rate 01:51:12 *** Guest4407 has quit IRC 03:03:28 *** glx has quit IRC 03:33:01 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 03:33:31 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 03:59:48 *** debdog has joined #openttd 04:03:09 *** D-HUND has quit IRC 04:48:15 *** snail_UES_ has quit IRC 05:59:58 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 06:41:16 *** supermop_Home_ has quit IRC 07:09:53 *** tokai|noir has joined #openttd 07:09:53 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai|noir 07:16:41 *** tokai has quit IRC 07:27:04 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 07:27:17 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 07:40:18 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 07:53:15 *** rptr_ has joined #openttd 07:57:52 <andythenorth> yo 07:58:07 <andythenorth> can't think why, but situation seems familiar :) https://www.theregister.com/2020/10/26/linux_kernel_intel/ 08:29:53 <Eddi|zuHause> well, my software engineering professor said, maintenance is 90% of the work, but everybody only wants to do the other 10% 08:40:50 *** longtomjr has joined #openttd 08:57:56 *** Progman has joined #openttd 09:16:04 *** longtomjr has quit IRC 09:44:39 *** longtomjr has joined #openttd 09:58:31 <TrueBrain> fuck you CSS .. FireFox inspect tool is lying 09:58:41 <TrueBrain> well, it is not, but fuck CSS :P 09:59:03 <longtomjr> I think that is a message we all can get behind 09:59:20 <LordAro> lewd 09:59:22 <TrueBrain> which is the worst :P 09:59:50 <TrueBrain> so I made 4 boxes with an height of 150px 09:59:53 <TrueBrain> they all have different heights :P 10:04:50 <TrueBrain> right .. now how to vertical align stuff .. hmm 10:05:22 <TrueBrain> table-cell to the rescue 10:07:37 <longtomjr> are you using grid? 10:07:57 <TrueBrain> https://55984caaa3e9.eu.ngrok.io/en/Manual/Cargo#cargo-types-flow-charts 10:07:57 <andythenorth> 'how to vertical align stuff' 10:07:59 <andythenorth> lol 10:07:59 <TrueBrain> that looks good enough 10:08:07 <andythenorth> that looks perfect 10:08:16 <andythenorth> one day these things will be simple 10:08:23 <TrueBrain> not sure how other galleries work, but what-ever :P 10:08:31 <TrueBrain> andythenorth: the day the Internet dies? :P 10:14:30 <TrueBrain> https://55984caaa3e9.eu.ngrok.io/en/Community/NewGRF/Romtrain/Picture 10:14:33 <TrueBrain> okay, even that looks nice 10:14:53 <TrueBrain> just "center" has different meanings for a h2 as for a caption .. which triggers my OCD 10:15:47 <TrueBrain> fixed 10:15:48 <TrueBrain> :D 10:17:08 <TrueBrain> okay, that was easier than I expected :) happy now 10:18:18 <TrueBrain> https://55984caaa3e9.eu.ngrok.io/en/Manual/Signals <- wish I knew how to make the captions not exceed the size of the image ... but the width is not defined here, so I am not sure that is possible 10:18:26 <TrueBrain> people can just declare the width, and it will be fixed 10:18:57 <longtomjr> the captions under the images 10:23:30 <TrueBrain> guess either someone needs to go through the pages and set a width, or someone needs to find some CSS magic :D 10:23:41 <TrueBrain> it does look a lot better if the width of the image is winning 10:25:53 <TrueBrain> mediawiki inspects the image, and hardcodes the width .. I would like to avoid that :D 10:26:26 <longtomjr> I am sure there is a way to do this with CSS, but I might be wrong 10:28:41 <TrueBrain> sadly, "hope" is not a currency I can trade :) 10:29:29 <longtomjr> I were having a poke around and a look, but my power has been cut because of building this whole morning, so need to get some paying work done. 10:36:13 <longtomjr> TrueBrain, https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/figcaption 10:38:29 <longtomjr> not css, but it might work for this 10:40:08 <TrueBrain> I guess, but that requires some more changes :P 10:41:59 <longtomjr> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/30686191/how-to-make-image-caption-width-to-match-image-width 10:43:27 <TrueBrain> same solution ;) 10:43:29 <longtomjr> `display: table-caption;` seems to do something as well 10:43:49 <longtomjr> Yep, but I were referencing the table-caption and other css properties 10:43:58 <TrueBrain> check the HTML :) 10:44:02 <TrueBrain> it is just another <figure> :) 10:44:13 <TrueBrain> when using <figure>, the rest follows 10:44:17 <TrueBrain> but that is a bit of a change :) 10:45:34 <longtomjr> adding the `display: table-caption;` to the .thumbcaption class changes it to not change the sizing anymore 10:46:02 <longtomjr> it is still not correct, but there might be a way to get it to play ball without having to change the markup 10:46:53 <TrueBrain> lol .. so that answer overcomplicated the situation; nice :P 10:47:32 <TrueBrain> well, that heavily improves the Signals page 10:47:33 <TrueBrain> nice 10:47:57 <longtomjr> link? 10:48:34 <TrueBrain> the same as earlier :) 10:48:39 <longtomjr> yaay, nice 10:53:34 <TrueBrain> now to figure out where the vertical spacing comes from between caption and image 10:53:37 <TrueBrain> it is off by a few pixels 10:54:01 <TrueBrain> nothing is claiming the space .. 10:59:41 <TrueBrain> funny, FireFox renders the caption fine; Chrome fucks it up :P 11:01:20 <longtomjr> Thanks google 11:01:46 <longtomjr> What about IE though 11:03:30 <TrueBrain> zero fucks were given 11:03:56 <longtomjr> lol 11:04:13 <TrueBrain> and now Chrome draws the border wrong 11:04:14 <TrueBrain> lol 11:07:56 <TrueBrain> right, "fixed" it :P 11:35:36 <TrueBrain> okay, pushed all the changes to GitHub, w00p. Next job on the list ... copy the code from bananas-server to download and reload the GitHub "data" repository :) pam pam pammmmm 11:37:39 <TrueBrain> https://55984caaa3e9.eu.ngrok.io/en/Community/Junctionary/3%E2%88%954ths%20junction <- "This junction is pretty easy to make, but is not complete and so trains can get lost. " .... lol? 11:43:03 *** k-man_ has joined #openttd 11:49:43 *** k-man has quit IRC 12:07:25 *** k-man__ has joined #openttd 12:14:06 *** k-man_ has quit IRC 12:40:03 *** jottyfan has joined #openttd 12:58:36 *** snail_UES_ has joined #openttd 13:07:11 <Eddi|zuHause> i've never understood the "junctionary" 13:24:02 *** rptr_ has quit IRC 13:28:11 * andythenorth reads 13:28:17 <andythenorth> wow https://55984caaa3e9.eu.ngrok.io/en/Community/Junctionary/Dual%20Branch-Merge%20Junction 13:29:59 <longtomjr> https://55984caaa3e9.eu.ngrok.io/en/Community/Junctionary/Quad%20Branch-Merge%20Junction 13:30:45 *** supermop_Home has joined #openttd 13:30:50 <andythenorth> this is my most advanced junction currently grf.farm/images/junctionary.png 13:30:57 <andythenorth> https://grf.farm/images/junctionary.png 13:31:24 <longtomjr> Hmm is that flyover needed? 13:32:17 <andythenorth> I often don't bother 13:32:25 <andythenorth> but flat crossings cause contention 13:32:57 <andythenorth> and a PBS signal gap has to be left, as long as longest train 13:33:20 <andythenorth> which means the track throughput is reduced even when flat crossing is not in use 13:33:49 <longtomjr> Yep, but that is fine untill traffic picks up 13:35:02 <longtomjr> I normally try to upgrade my lines organically, or use existing bridges / tunnels to avoid creating new grade seperated crossings 13:35:26 <andythenorth> mostly I do this until the route starts to block 13:35:28 <andythenorth> https://grf.farm/images/junctionary_2.png 13:37:03 <longtomjr> yep, I do similar stuff, I try to avoid the x-es though, since irl if there is space it is a lot easier to not have rails crossing 13:52:40 <andythenorth> so the commuter airport is really high throughput 13:52:45 <andythenorth> assuming only small planes are needed 13:55:22 <Timberwolf> andythenorth: Same here, realistic until it needs to not be realistic :) 13:58:12 <Timberwolf> Although the point at Wimbledon where the SWML goes from (up slow, up fast, down fast, down slow) to (up fast, down fast, up slow, down slow) I count as a real-world prototype for a typical OpenTTD junction. 13:58:44 <longtomjr> I mean once the traffic gets big enough, flyover and more complicated junctions start to be required irl as well 13:59:50 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 14:00:02 <Timberwolf> Yep, it's just rarer to have that volume (and usually irl we tolerate 1-2m wait for a signal across a flat junction) 14:00:26 <longtomjr> Also, ttd scale being a bit odd etc, lines tend to get a lot more traffic than you might expect 14:01:42 <longtomjr> I mostly build my lines to be ok with waiting, especially long trains that carry bulk cargo, so waiting at a passing loop is quite common 14:25:50 <FLHerne> I think Windmill Bridge is a better example 14:25:58 <FLHerne> Particularly after the upcoming rebuild 14:26:15 <FLHerne> https://www.londonreconnections.com/wp-content/uploads/Windmill-Bridge-Complex-June-2020-1.jpg 14:26:46 <longtomjr> oh wow that is cool 14:26:56 <FLHerne> https://www.londonreconnections.com/wp-content/uploads/WBJ-8b-3.png 14:27:46 <FLHerne> (yes, those are multiple three-level bridges) 14:29:20 <FLHerne> It has a junction on a Y-shaped bridge above another junction on another Y-shaped bridge above a junction 14:32:30 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 14:55:05 *** jottyfan has quit IRC 15:01:51 *** rptr_ has joined #openttd 15:23:16 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 15:29:37 <supermop_Home> yo 15:36:49 *** longtomjr has quit IRC 15:44:16 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 16:01:14 *** Markk has quit IRC 16:07:23 *** Flygon has quit IRC 17:09:15 *** tokai has joined #openttd 17:09:15 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 17:16:11 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC 17:17:37 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 17:26:58 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 17:35:44 *** glx has joined #openttd 17:35:44 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 17:52:03 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] DorpsGek pushed 1 commits to master https://git.io/JTPRq 17:52:03 <DorpsGek_III> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators) 17:57:51 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 18:08:02 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 18:11:37 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/team] andrejmoltok opened issue #68: [hu_HU] Translator access request https://git.io/JTPEq 18:41:05 <supermop_Home> i should get back to drawing sprites or something 19:04:27 <andythenorth> I enjoy it 19:07:35 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 has joined #openttd 19:14:34 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 19:22:14 *** rptr_ has quit IRC 19:39:18 *** Markk has joined #openttd 19:54:40 *** tokai|noir has joined #openttd 19:54:40 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai|noir 20:01:36 *** tokai has quit IRC 20:08:44 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 20:14:54 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 has quit IRC 20:26:52 *** gelignite has quit IRC 20:35:51 <andythenorth> well 20:35:53 *** rptr_ has joined #openttd 20:37:02 *** jottyfan has joined #openttd 21:07:28 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 has joined #openttd 21:14:34 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 21:14:44 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 21:29:45 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 21:40:19 *** SpComb^ has quit IRC 21:40:34 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 21:51:02 <supermop_Home> well indeed 21:51:09 <supermop_Home> tried to go early vote 21:53:34 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 has quit IRC 21:53:46 <supermop_Home> line too long going to try again tomorrow 21:54:21 <FLHerne> US? 21:54:25 <FLHerne> Your voting system sucks 21:54:47 <supermop_Home> no way to change it other than by voting though 21:54:53 <supermop_Home> new York city 21:55:03 * FLHerne has never waited in a queue of more than three people to vote :p 21:55:09 <FLHerne> Well, three people and a dog 21:55:44 <supermop_Home> new York is always bizarrely difficult to vote in, moreso than most other states 21:55:46 <FLHerne> But dogs can't vote, so perhaps it doesn't count 21:56:18 <supermop_Home> this is the first time they even did early voting here (many other states have had it for years) 21:56:58 <supermop_Home> and they really just half-assed it. there seems to be like only one early voting location for all of lower manhattan 21:59:42 <FLHerne> tfw when you write a patch and then discover why the original author didn't do it that way 22:00:05 <FLHerne> Also, nml doesn't have enough tests :-( 22:05:18 *** jottyfan has quit IRC 22:05:22 <andythenorth> oof 22:05:34 *** iSoSyS has quit IRC 22:05:47 <andythenorth> I wish I had automated tests 22:05:50 <andythenorth> so that some days 22:05:54 <andythenorth> I could jenkins 22:06:02 <andythenorth> and it would say "stay in bed, you don't work" 22:31:39 *** rptr_ has quit IRC 22:38:45 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 22:40:03 *** k-man__ is now known as k-man 22:55:49 *** nielsm has quit IRC 22:55:51 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 23:02:35 <DorpsGek_III> [OpenTTD/team] JuniuSeifero opened issue #69: [pt_BR] Translator access request https://git.io/JTP7I 23:11:33 *** tyteen4a03 has quit IRC 23:11:55 *** tyteen4a03 has joined #openttd 23:39:06 *** SpComb^ has joined #openttd