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I am getting old :P 08:09:37 <peter1138> Where are all the new young developers? 08:11:21 <andythenorth> I am here 08:11:25 <andythenorth> wait wat? 08:20:52 <TrueBrain> owh, time_t still hasn't gotten a real spec I see .. 08:20:58 <TrueBrain> still rather undefined what the resolution is 08:20:59 <TrueBrain> fun :D 08:21:24 <TrueBrain> also undefined if it includes leap seconds or not .. "commonly it doesn't", is the answer :P 08:21:25 <TrueBrain> haha :D 08:22:22 <TrueBrain> "While investigation is still underway, we have decided that maintaining our own git infrastructure is an unnecessary security risk, and that we will discontinue the git.php.net server. Instead, the repositories on GitHub, which were previously only mirrors, will become canonical." 08:22:25 <TrueBrain> and another project sees the light 08:23:38 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenSFX] orudge merged pull request #39: Prepare: Release 1.0.1 https://git.io/JmhuG 08:24:47 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenSFX] orudge created new tag: 1.0.1 https://git.io/JYWLf 08:33:22 <blathijs> Woah, OpenSFX release! Didn't see that coming :-) 08:34:43 <andythenorth> I did a crude measurement of the V in HSV to darken cargo colours that were too light 08:34:45 <andythenorth> https://grf.farm/firs/cargoflow_auto-colour-fix-tests/html/economies.html#steeltown 08:34:48 <andythenorth> kinda works ish 08:35:15 *** NGC3982 has quit IRC 08:35:18 <TrueBrain> blathijs: it is the second already .. :P 08:35:21 <TrueBrain> also: hi :) 08:39:39 <blathijs> :-p 08:40:21 <blathijs> Now I can finally clear away my Debian packaging backlog for OpenSFX (small packaging updates, policy version bumps, that sort of thing that I normally do whenever there's an upstream release) 08:40:55 <TrueBrain> \o/ Clearing backlogs is always nice :P 08:49:38 <andythenorth> I think this cargoflow is nearly done for steeltown 08:49:48 <andythenorth> just need to over-ride a few colours for clarity 08:50:01 * andythenorth surprised that graphviz can be actually tuned 08:50:15 <andythenorth> not 100% reliably but eh 08:50:24 <andythenorth> can influence the magic enough to get a result 08:54:06 *** SpComb has quit IRC 08:54:07 *** SpComb has joined #openttd 09:04:10 *** Venemo has joined #openttd 09:06:58 <peter1138> Them: Can you export this data? 09:07:06 <peter1138> Me: Here is the button to press to export this data. 09:07:15 <peter1138> Them: Can you send the data? 09:07:19 <peter1138> f.o. 09:07:36 <LordAro> "No." 09:07:41 <TrueBrain> they have to make sure they can blame someone else in case they were not allowed to have that data :P 09:10:08 <LordAro> or perhaps better, "for data security reasons, i am not allowed to access this data, you have to press the button with your user permissions" 09:10:42 <dihedral> greetings to the 09:12:02 <andythenorth> we used to field constant feature requests for 'download report' features 09:12:18 <andythenorth> then when we added them, we fielded constant feature requests for 'please email me the report' 09:12:49 <peter1138> Then it's 'can you add this datad to the report' 09:12:58 <peter1138> Then it's 'why is this data on this report' 09:13:20 <peter1138> 'Can you put this data here' 09:13:41 <peter1138> Yes, a new report because you needed column A to be in column E, yes yes. 09:14:11 <andythenorth> loving life 09:14:12 <andythenorth> and people 09:14:15 <andythenorth> and computers 09:20:15 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 09:25:51 *** Borg has joined #openttd 09:25:54 <Borg> who summoned me? :) 09:28:32 <Timberwo1f> Most of the time I found "download report" was the surface on an iceberg of, "customer/user has reimplemented most of the functionality of your software in Excel and is trying to add raw data to it" 09:30:47 <LordAro> those are the best 09:36:14 *** planetmaker has quit IRC 09:36:30 *** tneo has quit IRC 09:36:43 *** planetmaker has joined #openttd 09:36:43 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o planetmaker 09:36:46 *** Hirundo has quit IRC 09:37:14 *** tneo has joined #openttd 09:37:43 *** Hirundo has joined #openttd 09:38:36 <Timberwo1f> A fun one many years ago was one report with two users; user A wanted a data extract for their pile of hand-cranked Excel, user B wanted to print the report as-is on a single page of landscape A4. 09:38:45 <Timberwo1f> No surprise those two goals end up in conflict. 09:39:05 *** roadt_ has joined #openttd 09:39:28 *** Samu has joined #openttd 09:39:58 <Samu> hi 09:46:04 *** roadt has quit IRC 09:48:24 *** Timberwo1f is now known as Timberwolf 09:53:25 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] SamuXarick updated pull request #8468: Fix #8316: Make sort industries by production and transported with a cargo filter possible https://git.io/JLHah 09:55:30 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 commented on pull request #8908: Adds hotkey for the new filter edit boxes. https://git.io/JYWlP 09:56:19 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] SamuXarick commented on pull request #8468: Fix #8316: Make sort industries by production and transported with a cargo filter possible https://git.io/JYWlD 09:56:26 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] SamuXarick commented on pull request #8468: Fix #8316: Make sort industries by production and transported with a cargo filter possible https://git.io/JYWl9 09:57:04 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] SamuXarick commented on pull request #8468: Fix #8316: Make sort industries by production and transported with a cargo filter possible https://git.io/JYWlF 10:04:07 <peter1138> A PR to make something possible. 10:06:32 <Wolf01> Strange 10:10:06 *** LordAro has quit IRC 10:10:07 *** LordAro has joined #openttd 10:10:26 <peter1138> I guess all PRs are, in a way. 10:33:34 *** berndj-blackout has quit IRC 10:34:08 *** berndj has joined #openttd 10:43:10 *** V4530000 has quit IRC 10:43:43 *** V453000 has joined #openttd 10:50:54 *** SmatZ has quit IRC 10:51:13 *** SmatZ has joined #openttd 11:06:06 *** k-man has left #openttd 11:43:10 *** ket_ has quit IRC 11:43:27 *** ket_ has joined #openttd 11:49:02 *** dihedral has quit IRC 11:49:43 *** dihedral has joined #openttd 12:04:53 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 12:11:42 *** cacheerror[m] has quit IRC 12:11:46 *** cacheerror[m] has joined #openttd 12:25:50 *** bkilm[m] has quit IRC 12:25:56 *** bkilm[m] has joined #openttd 12:36:30 *** gdown has quit IRC 12:36:32 *** gdown has joined #openttd 12:45:18 *** dude[m]1 has quit IRC 12:45:25 *** dude[m]1 has joined #openttd 12:45:47 <andythenorth> hmm python rgb to hsv using the standard lib module is shifting colours 12:45:53 <andythenorth> maybe there are colourspace issues, dunno 12:46:34 <andythenorth> doesn't really matter, I just don't like not knowing the reasons :P 12:53:37 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 12:54:48 *** iSoSyS has quit IRC 12:59:14 <TrueBrain> is your original rgb sRGB or Adobe RGB? :D 13:02:07 <andythenorth> it's whatever PIL produces as RGB triples from TTD DOS palette :P 13:02:19 <andythenorth> I didn't investigate further :P 13:04:46 *** Borg has quit IRC 13:05:34 *** JamesRoss[m] has quit IRC 13:05:41 *** JamesRoss[m] has joined #openttd 13:06:22 *** glothit7ok[m] has quit IRC 13:06:28 *** glothit7ok[m] has joined #openttd 13:21:34 *** natalie[m] has quit IRC 13:21:39 *** natalie[m] has joined #openttd 13:31:17 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh commented on pull request #8902: Feature: show upload date in the network content window https://git.io/JYlen 13:33:33 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 13:38:08 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler opened pull request #8910: Change: Title game for 1.11.0 release https://git.io/JYlvN 13:41:00 <TrueBrain> lol, I tried to change the base to the release/1.11 in GitHub for ^^ 13:41:02 <TrueBrain> but that breaks :P 13:45:26 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain commented on pull request #8902: Feature: show upload date in the network content window https://git.io/JYlJx 13:48:03 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] TrueBrain commented on pull request #8910: Change: Title game for 1.11.0 release https://git.io/JYlUz 13:51:18 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler updated pull request #8910: Change: Title game for 1.11.0 release https://git.io/JYlvN 13:52:14 *** cawal[m] has quit IRC 13:52:22 *** cawal[m] has joined #openttd 13:55:36 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler updated pull request #8910: Change: Title game for 1.11.0 release https://git.io/JYlvN 13:58:56 <LordAro> interesting that the new one is 70% of the master titlegame 13:59:04 <LordAro> suppose compression has something to do with it? 13:59:30 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rpwjanzen commented on pull request #8909: Feature 7957, banlist: load/save ban lists from/to external files https://git.io/JYlIU 13:59:35 <TrueBrain> not sure what compression the master title game has 13:59:42 <TrueBrain> but I would guess the LRE variant :P 14:00:03 <LordAro> something old 14:02:22 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rpwjanzen commented on pull request #8909: Feature 7957, banlist: load/save ban lists from/to external files https://git.io/JYlIV 14:03:26 *** nartir[m] has quit IRC 14:03:31 *** nartir[m] has joined #openttd 14:07:44 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 14:08:53 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 14:09:21 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 14:09:34 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 14:12:48 *** WormnestAndroid has quit IRC 14:13:06 *** WormnestAndroid has joined #openttd 14:20:11 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] reldred commented on pull request #8480: Multitile depots https://git.io/JYlqx 14:24:30 *** igor[m]2 has quit IRC 14:24:34 *** igor[m]2 has joined #openttd 14:30:06 *** dag[m] has quit IRC 14:30:09 *** dag[m] has joined #openttd 14:37:02 *** linda[m] has quit IRC 14:37:06 *** linda[m] has joined #openttd 14:51:53 <TrueBrain> so the winning title game got 75 votes 14:52:00 <TrueBrain> last year, the winner got 16 votes 14:52:11 <TrueBrain> who-ever doubted what would be more accessible: GitHub or tt-forums: here is your answer 14:52:30 <TrueBrain> total votes last year was only 62 14:53:26 *** supermop_Home_ has joined #openttd 14:53:56 <supermop_Home_> yo 14:57:56 *** snail_UES_ has joined #openttd 15:00:46 *** leward[m] has quit IRC 15:00:49 *** leward[m] has joined #openttd 15:25:39 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] RoqueDeicide opened issue #8911: Suggestion: Replace target of the order without recreating it, and/or copy order's specs. https://git.io/JYlBY 15:26:00 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] stormcone updated pull request #8908: Adds hotkey for the new filter edit boxes. https://git.io/JYc49 15:35:31 *** Flygon has quit IRC 15:37:18 <FLHerne> I like https://github.com/ornicar/lila/blob/master/FAQ.md 15:37:34 <FLHerne> "So I hacked it up quickly, to learn about XHR long polling. Then I put it online, and then I moved on to the next toy project as usual. 15:37:36 <FLHerne> However someone started using it, to my surprise. So I added a chat to communicate with that person." 15:39:39 *** Nicd has joined #openttd 15:40:57 <Nicd> hi, is there a way to have a train bypass a station if all the tracks are occupied? like go round and round in a circle till it gets to an open track :D 15:44:46 *** ad5twoknebor[m] has quit IRC 15:44:57 *** ad5twoknebor[m] has joined #openttd 15:49:50 *** ircer[m] has quit IRC 15:50:00 *** ircer[m] has joined #openttd 15:58:22 *** jgx_ has quit IRC 16:02:34 <FLHerne> Nicd: Not a straightforward one, certainly 16:03:14 <Nicd> I was afraid so. it would have just made for funnier stations. imagining a long line of trains just circling around till they find space, instead of getting stuck waiting 16:03:28 *** jgx has joined #openttd 16:03:48 <FLHerne> It's possible you could do something with implicit orders and '2-way EOL' 16:04:05 <FLHerne> Similar but not identical to http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Self-regulating_SBahn 16:04:06 <_dp_> Nicd, https://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Overflow 16:04:21 <FLHerne> (there's a lot of stuff on that wiki about advanced signalling ideas) 16:05:22 <FLHerne> _dp_: It's not clear to me from that article what exactly it's meant to be, nor how it works :-/ 16:05:40 <_dp_> it sends extra trains to the depot 16:09:28 <Nicd> looks like there is more info here: https://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Two-way_end_of_line 16:17:50 *** Heiki[m] has quit IRC 16:17:51 *** Heiki[m] has joined #openttd 16:19:37 *** glx has joined #openttd 16:19:38 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 16:23:32 *** didac has joined #openttd 16:24:13 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler commented on issue #8911: Suggestion: Replace target of the order without recreating it, and/or copy order's specs. https://git.io/JYlBY 16:24:55 <Nicd> wow, that really seems too complex for me 16:25:00 <Nicd> thanks for the tips anyway :) 16:32:33 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/bananas-server] perezdidac commented on pull request #43: Add: pass upload date to OpenTTD client https://git.io/JYlPl 16:34:12 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 16:34:48 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] RoqueDeicide commented on issue #8911: Suggestion: Replace target of the order without recreating it, and/or copy order's specs. https://git.io/JYlBY 16:37:02 *** jact[m] has quit IRC 16:37:05 *** jact[m] has joined #openttd 16:38:17 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] perezdidac commented on pull request #8902: Feature: show upload date in the network content window https://git.io/JYlX6 16:42:27 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] perezdidac updated pull request #8902: Feature: show upload date in the network content window https://git.io/JYZyX 16:43:57 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] frosch123 commented on pull request #8910: Change: Title game for 1.11.0 release https://git.io/JYlMv 16:44:54 *** Progman has joined #openttd 16:49:53 <frosch123> hmm, so, the titlegame with the train crash won 16:52:00 <LordAro> lol 16:52:24 <frosch123> hmm, now i am unsure.. 16:52:37 <frosch123> aren't pbs+block signal mixtures in the same junction invalid? 16:53:54 <frosch123> they seem to reserve paths even when crossing block signals 16:53:58 <frosch123> that's new to me :p 16:54:38 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler updated pull request #8910: Change: Title game for 1.11.0 release https://git.io/JYlvN 16:59:58 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 17:00:07 <andythenorth> frosch123 Wolf01 https://grf.farm/firs/cargoflow_auto-colour-fix-tests/html/economies.html#steeltown 17:00:19 <andythenorth> cargo colours are the ones used in game, but algorithmically adjusted 17:00:32 <andythenorth> graph layout is extensively manually tuned 17:00:34 <Wolf01> I was trying to figure out how is possible to crash a train without manually ignoring a signal :P 17:01:20 <Wolf01> <andythenorth> graph layout is extensively manually tuned <- still looks like some kid drawing :P 17:02:37 <Wolf01> Arctic economy looks like professional now 17:04:23 <andythenorth> it's the problem of graphviz bezier splines 17:05:03 <frosch123> arctic is weird. the "ammonia" is very close to the "pyrite smelter" 17:05:09 <frosch123> even though there is actually no arrow 17:05:20 <Wolf01> That's why I like more ortho splines 17:06:37 <frosch123> i like how the lines blend in with the colored cargo boxes 17:10:04 <andythenorth> I can manually tune arctic 17:10:17 <andythenorth> I've discovered how 'rank=same' works 17:14:32 *** Nicd has left #openttd 17:18:54 *** christoph[m]2 has quit IRC 17:18:57 *** christoph[m]2 has joined #openttd 17:24:11 *** Mcstan has joined #openttd 17:27:10 *** patricia[m] has quit IRC 17:27:12 *** patricia[m] has joined #openttd 17:29:23 *** Mcstan has quit IRC 17:36:31 *** Progman has quit IRC 17:43:22 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 17:53:03 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] DorpsGek pushed 1 commits to master https://git.io/JYlNS 17:53:04 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators) 17:55:26 *** aperezdc has quit IRC 17:55:29 *** aperezdc has joined #openttd 17:56:44 <andythenorth> Wolf01 ortho :P https://grf.farm/firs/cargoflow-ortho-splines-tests/html/economies.html#steeltown 17:57:45 <Wolf01> Yeah, a lot more tidy now 17:58:06 <Wolf01> Some arrows might need to be fixed but I really like that 17:58:42 <Wolf01> Maybe you could just drop the exit arrow 17:59:09 <andythenorth> the ortho tends to overlap though :| 17:59:26 *** freu[m] has quit IRC 17:59:31 <Wolf01> Give it more breath? 17:59:31 *** freu[m] has joined #openttd 18:00:24 <Wolf01> If only there is a way to merge the arrows into one, maybe there is but you need to do it manually 18:00:41 <Wolf01> I mean like the 3 food arrows 18:02:13 <FLHerne> Wolf01: Removing signals, of course... 18:02:44 <FLHerne> I'm sure there used to be an issue where PBS+block could cause crashes, but that might be fixed now 18:02:46 <andythenorth> there are various strategies to tune graphviz 18:02:57 <andythenorth> but nothing that automatically makes ortho better :P 18:03:51 <Wolf01> Yeah, I did everything manually last time 18:04:57 <andythenorth> I can increase the node separation, which creates more space verticallly 18:05:14 <andythenorth> but there is a limit to what will fit a 'normal' browser window 18:06:06 *** karoline[m] has quit IRC 18:06:10 *** karoline[m] has joined #openttd 18:08:46 *** ookfof[m] has quit IRC 18:08:53 *** ookfof[m] has joined #openttd 18:17:57 <andythenorth> ortho rides the struggle bus too much 18:21:27 <frosch123> FLHerne: that's what i thought. but i guess it only applies if you convert a non-pbs junction to a pbs junction while there is a train inside 18:23:24 <andythenorth> oof 18:23:29 * andythenorth tried mixing spline types 18:23:32 <andythenorth> graphviz says no 18:23:54 <andythenorth> Graph property, not Edge or Subgraph 18:29:34 <andythenorth> hmm 18:30:05 <andythenorth> I could draw invisible industry nodes and force all industries to a rectangular grid 18:30:38 *** ist5shreawf[m] has quit IRC 18:30:41 *** ist5shreawf[m] has joined #openttd 18:43:42 *** amal[m] has quit IRC 18:43:46 *** amal[m] has joined #openttd 18:48:52 <frosch123> wasn't the point of graphviz to have automated graphs? :p 18:50:35 <andythenorth> somewhat yes 18:50:46 <andythenorth> I have read a lot of docs 18:50:56 <andythenorth> automated graphviz seems to be a niche use case :P 18:51:06 <andythenorth> most people posting examples are making graphs manually 18:51:35 <TrueBrain> so you had a problem, found a solution, that created another problem? :D 18:51:45 <TrueBrain> I never have that issue at all :P :P 18:51:48 <andythenorth> this is software 18:52:00 <andythenorth> pls send t-shirt slogan 18:52:04 <TrueBrain> I am currently cross compiling some Go packages to arm .. 18:52:09 <frosch123> TrueBrain: in this case, i don't think the software created the problem :p 18:52:09 <andythenorth> because lolz 18:52:11 <TrueBrain> I never did anything with Go 18:52:14 <TrueBrain> I don't like it either 18:52:35 <TrueBrain> by default, Go downloads everything via their proxy 18:52:37 <andythenorth> so this, is it better than the current version or not? https://grf.farm/firs/cargoflow_auto-colour-fix-tests/html/economies.html#steeltown 18:52:39 <TrueBrain> which seems to be rate limited 18:52:44 <andythenorth> current is https://grf.farm/firs/4.0.0-RC1/html/economies.html#steeltown 18:52:45 <TrueBrain> this package has 6 dependencies 18:52:52 <TrueBrain> after the 4th, it kicks my HTTPS session out 18:53:03 <andythenorth> I showed some people and work and they said 'this is why nobody should use graphviz for docs ever' 18:53:16 <TrueBrain> but I guess it makes sense .. it is a Google product .. so knowing exactly what people download via your go language is important 18:55:39 <frosch123> andythenorth: i like it 18:55:49 <andythenorth> that's 1 vote then :) 18:55:52 <frosch123> it saves me from learning the industry names, i can just go by picture 18:55:59 <andythenorth> it's not a democracy, but eh votes help 18:56:19 <andythenorth> my favourite is still https://grf.farm/firs/cargoflow-minimalist-tests/html/economies.html#steeltown 18:56:21 <andythenorth> :P 18:56:29 <frosch123> did you tune the cargo colors to work on white? 18:56:35 <frosch123> i think the other day some where very bright 18:56:44 <andythenorth> I tuned them this morning 18:56:58 <andythenorth> convert to HSV and then darken if V is some threshold 18:57:16 <andythenorth> the python RGB -> HSV converter in standard lib seems to distort the colours a bit 18:57:28 * andythenorth didn't investigate further 18:57:42 <TrueBrain> text is slightly too high in the boxes :P 18:58:12 <TrueBrain> but yeah, images are better than text 18:58:18 <andythenorth> yeah the text is annoying 18:58:26 <andythenorth> I can't control it 18:58:32 <andythenorth> I tried forcing a border to the top to trick it 18:58:35 <TrueBrain> just draw it yourself :P 18:58:35 <andythenorth> but didn't win 18:58:51 <andythenorth> the non-legible colours are more pleasing I think :P https://grf.farm/firs/cargoflow-manual-tuning-tests-2/html/economies.html#steeltown 18:58:52 <andythenorth> brighter 18:58:55 <TrueBrain> https://grf.farm/firs/cargoflow_auto-colour-fix-tests/html/cargoflow_steeltown.html <- the mini map is REALLY annoying 18:58:56 <frosch123> TrueBrain: do you know that these charts change every 2 day? 18:58:57 <TrueBrain> holy crap :P 18:59:08 <TrueBrain> frosch123: we need something to keep him busy 18:59:48 <andythenorth> yeah that svg scale-pan plug in is limited and buggy 18:59:52 <andythenorth> not ideal 19:00:05 <TrueBrain> when you move your mouse over it, without clicking, it changes viewport 19:00:07 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] LC-Zorg commented on issue #8911: Suggestion: Replace target of the order without recreating it, and/or copy order's specs. https://git.io/JYlBY 19:00:08 <TrueBrain> that is just .. no 19:00:09 <TrueBrain> just: no 19:00:11 *** Progman has joined #openttd 19:00:27 <frosch123> TrueBrain: that behavior changes with reloading the page sometimes 19:00:30 <andythenorth> oh I thought that got fixed 19:00:41 <TrueBrain> frosch123: I love the "sometimes" part :D 19:00:45 <andythenorth> goes it throw out plugin? 19:00:56 <andythenorth> it doesn't work locally either, and I never figured out why 19:01:00 <andythenorth> but makes testing really annoying 19:01:13 <frosch123> it's better than nothing 19:01:23 <andythenorth> hmm why does ferrochrome colour get converted from RGB green to HSV blue 19:01:23 <frosch123> i have no idea why browsers support zooming png, but not svg 19:01:32 <andythenorth> it's weird 19:01:38 <frosch123> it's like the opposite of their intentions 19:01:42 <andythenorth> svg used as background image zooms fine 19:01:45 <frosch123> scaleable image not being scaleable... 19:01:46 <andythenorth> but not as object 19:01:53 * andythenorth tries a trick 19:02:12 <TrueBrain> well, why is this Go application already spending 26 CPU minutes on compiling a single file? 19:02:28 <frosch123> it's sending your hdd to google 19:02:40 <TrueBrain> its so horrible .. no progress reporting 19:02:58 <frosch123> i have not heard about go for years 19:03:09 <TrueBrain> it sadly enough is still a popular language 19:03:12 <frosch123> is it still hip? or did everyone switch to rust? 19:03:12 <TrueBrain> especially for kubernetes 19:03:42 *** cjmonagle[m] has quit IRC 19:03:47 *** cjmonagle[m] has joined #openttd 19:03:51 <frosch123> some dutch guy told me: docker yay, k8 nay 19:04:14 <andythenorth> frosch123 I really didn't test this, but try zooming the page? https://grf.farm/firs/cargoflow-svg-background-tests/html/economies.html 19:04:16 <TrueBrain> doing k8s in production is your worst nightmare, that was one smart Dutch guy :P 19:04:18 <TrueBrain> :D :D 19:04:47 <andythenorth> glad I never got on the k8s hype train :P 19:04:48 <TrueBrain> zooms fine here 19:05:29 <frosch123> andythenorth: no idea what it's supposed to do, but it's not good :p 19:05:37 <andythenorth> what does it do? 19:05:50 <andythenorth> I replaced the svg method to be background image on a div 19:05:50 <frosch123> when zooming out, it makes it smaller 19:05:52 <andythenorth> instead of object 19:05:59 <frosch123> when zooming in, it stretches it to window size 19:06:06 <frosch123> independent of zoom level 19:06:10 <andythenorth> it should scale with rest of page elements 19:06:13 <TrueBrain> what the hell is your browser doing? :P 19:06:34 <TrueBrain> no, it is doing the same here 19:06:38 <TrueBrain> I just had to scroll further in 19:06:46 <TrueBrain> took a while for that to kick in :D 19:07:08 <andythenorth> interesting 19:07:09 <TrueBrain> that is weird 19:07:21 <andythenorth> which browser? 19:07:36 <frosch123> ff 19:08:05 <frosch123> same in chromium 19:08:24 <andythenorth> so it's capped at viewport width because it's the background to a div in a responsive container 19:08:32 <andythenorth> so it won't scale past the viewport without special handling 19:10:02 <andythenorth> hmm 19:10:08 <andythenorth> no maybe it's just my error 19:12:52 <andythenorth> meh I broke the path to the embedded industry images 19:13:35 <andythenorth> and there are no 404s so I can't see what broke :P 19:16:50 <andythenorth> yeah background image svg route fails 19:17:16 * andythenorth must to ship on Thursday, so not fixing that now I reckon 19:17:21 <andythenorth> that image library though :( 19:18:29 <andythenorth> https://luncheon.github.io/svg-pan-zoom-container/index.html work reliably for you? 19:18:41 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rpwjanzen updated pull request #8909: Feature 7957, banlist: load/save ban lists from/to external files https://git.io/JYCMN 19:19:36 *** milek7 has quit IRC 19:20:51 *** milek7 has joined #openttd 19:22:37 <frosch123> it requires a gearbox for the wheel, but otherwise works 19:25:35 * andythenorth wonders how many coin miners it contains 19:25:40 <andythenorth> 3rd party javascript :P 19:28:03 <frosch123> aol cds no longer exist, otherwise they would contain miners 19:48:30 *** _dp_ has quit IRC 19:49:00 *** dP has joined #openttd 19:49:00 *** dP is now known as _dp_ 19:53:50 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] J0anJosep updated pull request #8480: Multitile depots https://git.io/JL5Hh 20:06:25 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] perezdidac updated pull request #8902: Feature: show upload date in the network content window https://git.io/JYZyX 20:07:01 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 20:10:52 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] perezdidac commented on pull request #8480: Multitile depots https://git.io/JY8Gr 20:11:10 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] RoqueDeicide commented on issue #8911: Suggestion: Replace target of the order without recreating it, and/or copy order's specs. https://git.io/JYlBY 20:14:22 *** Tulitomaatti has quit IRC 20:14:36 *** Tulitomaatti has joined #openttd 20:18:23 <didac> I sent this out https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/8895 with the intention of modifying AI params during the scenario editor, but maybe we should just make all fields editable by default in the scenario editor? 20:19:04 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 20:25:03 *** Smedles has quit IRC 20:34:27 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 20:37:11 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] J0anJosep updated pull request #8480: Multitile depots https://git.io/JL5Hh 20:41:05 *** Soni has quit IRC 20:42:22 *** Yexo has quit IRC 20:42:48 *** Yexo has joined #openttd 20:42:54 *** avdg has quit IRC 20:43:10 *** Osai has quit IRC 20:43:18 *** avdg has joined #openttd 20:43:26 *** ^Spike^ has quit IRC 20:43:48 *** Osai has joined #openttd 20:44:06 *** ^Spike^ has joined #openttd 20:54:08 *** jottyfan has joined #openttd 20:56:43 *** jottyfan has quit IRC 21:01:56 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] nielsmh commented on pull request #8909: Feature 7957, banlist: load/save ban lists from/to external files https://git.io/JY8lQ 21:06:06 *** Progman has quit IRC 21:06:42 *** lobster has joined #openttd 21:08:08 *** lobstarooo has joined #openttd 21:14:44 *** lobster has quit IRC 21:14:49 *** lobstarooo is now known as lobster 21:19:52 *** Samu has quit IRC 21:25:34 *** moll has quit IRC 21:25:34 *** moll has joined #openttd 21:46:23 *** Wuzzy has joined #openttd 21:54:45 *** jottyfan has joined #openttd 21:56:46 *** menelaos[m] has quit IRC 21:56:51 *** menelaos[m] has joined #openttd 22:08:21 <TrueBrain> argh, this stupid go shit .. keeps having issues setting up TLS connections; no clue why, as no hint is provided 22:08:23 <TrueBrain> curl works fine 22:08:28 <TrueBrain> just via net/http of go it fails 22:08:31 <TrueBrain> can I just hit it a lot? 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