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00:05:35 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #11505: Codechange: Template input buffer type in audio mixer. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11505 00:30:02 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 01:42:56 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler updated pull request #11389: Cleanup: Initial untangling of town_cmd.cpp https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11389 01:56:05 <peter1138[d]> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1178876941974126663/image.png?ex=6577bdb5&is=656548b5&hm=bc248be158dd64a673b3fe8b6df516b569985e45adb4ca384f971ea0cc466ed4& 01:56:05 <peter1138[d]> I should sleep... 01:58:28 <peter1138> This is a bit like 4x extra zoom sprites but for sound. 01:59:46 <peter1138> 4x sample depth (int8 to float) and 4x sample rate (11025Hz to 44100Hz) 02:01:17 <peter1138> 38695 bytes to 619120 bytes :/ 02:10:14 <peter1138[d]> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1178880499666653235/image.png?ex=6577c105&is=65654c05&hm=9d33eb350c9cfcd925c5dc58980c8c94c2759edbca2719f02d22873dc46dece5& 02:10:17 <peter1138[d]> Such noise. 02:10:53 <peter1138> I'm assuming young people turn the sound off :p 03:01:52 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 03:12:52 *** D-HUND has joined #openttd 03:16:26 *** debdog has quit IRC 04:11:33 *** iloveyou[m] has left #openttd 04:13:44 <_pruple> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1178911581803917363/Treby_Transport_1954-10-15.png?ex=6577ddf8&is=656568f8&hm=11ee416d283e5093119c2741192510f6dcb6e0535e545e122118164929432cf3& 04:13:44 <_pruple> I'm not saying it's a bug as such, but is there an explanation for why, if you're building loose wagons, it always puts the *first* of a new type at the start of the chain, and then subsequent wagons at the end? 04:38:39 <merni> Is that common for all wagons across all grfs? 04:38:56 <merni> May be some magic in that grf 04:49:22 <_pruple> yes, it's universal. you get the same behaviour with any or no newgrfs. 06:45:06 <_glx_> Because it's easier code wise I think 06:46:21 <_glx_> But it might be a bug too 06:50:41 *** tokai|noir has joined #openttd 06:50:41 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai|noir 06:57:26 *** tokai has quit IRC 07:56:18 <Eddi|zuHause> probably a side effect from some other change 08:22:39 <rau117> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1178974222249377832/image.png?ex=6578184e&is=6565a34e&hm=5c34ba9ce482c6a038d44a9f9b9776e47a5068e33db30c6afe9d50e787a0bd00& 08:22:39 <rau117> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1178974222492639253/image.png?ex=6578184e&is=6565a34e&hm=ac618476b1c67568f505e3493f0c407ee4c93aa01a2f3a17d96f0105f28128c2& 08:22:39 <rau117> _pruple: Yeah, before [some, probably 13.3 or 13.4] version the wagons were “sorted” while you buying them. 08:22:39 <rau117> And I am very afraid that this is intended. 08:53:41 <peter1138> So it broken between 13.0 and 13.4? 08:53:48 <peter1138> -n 09:10:56 <peter1138> I think it's my bug too :) 09:11:46 <peter1138> Caused by 10926 09:12:44 <peter1138> (Perhaps) 09:19:58 <_pruple> implausible deniability 09:20:19 <LordAro> peter1138: how dare you make changes 09:20:25 <LordAro> i am offended. 09:22:18 <peter1138> Yeah, reverting that commit fixes it. 09:24:09 <peter1138> Okay, simple enough fix I think. 09:24:27 <peter1138> It used to only call normalise for engines, now it calls it for both engines and wagons. 09:25:35 *** Westie has joined #openttd 09:26:35 <peter1138> Hmm, sample.cat 09:26:54 <peter1138> 1.6MB. 09:27:23 <peter1138> × 16 = 25.7MB. 09:27:53 <_pruple> many samples, such cat 09:28:02 <LordAro> a lot of meows 09:28:17 <peter1138> But the spectral graph looks a lot cleaner! 09:29:10 <peter1138> Okay. 09:30:01 *** Guest8085 has quit IRC 09:37:45 *** Westie has quit IRC 09:37:47 *** Westie has joined #openttd 09:40:23 <emperorjake> Speaking of wagon behaviour in depot, you used to be able to drag a wagon off a train and drop it anywhere in the depot window to remove it from a train, Now it only works if you drop it on the line directly under the train in the depot window. 09:40:37 <emperorjake> It's a minor annoyance, but still an annoyance 09:42:16 <peter1138> Guess what... 09:42:40 *** oftc has joined #openttd 09:43:13 *** oftc is now known as Guest8417 09:43:24 <emperorjake> Also caused by 10926 I'm assuming? 09:43:25 <_pruple> same bug? 09:43:55 <peter1138> Nope. 09:44:01 <peter1138> But it is also caused by me. 09:44:05 <LordAro> :o 09:44:15 <LordAro> we can't fix bugs if we don't know they exist 09:44:22 <LordAro> 13.4 has been out for 6 months.. 09:44:27 <peter1138> When using GetScrolledRowFromWidget it does different bounds checking than before. 09:44:47 <LordAro> (something something devs don't play the game something something) 09:45:30 <peter1138> Haha 09:45:34 <peter1138> Sad but true :( 09:45:53 <emperorjake> That bug isn't in 13.4 yet, just checked 09:46:10 <peter1138> But no, we can test things and it seems to work, but we can't think of all cases to test. 09:47:29 *** Westie has quit IRC 09:53:45 <peter1138> Me: Remove unused fields. 09:53:50 <peter1138> Also me: Why are these fields in use... 09:57:29 <peter1138> Sticking with 11025Hz playback rate would have been better quality :o 09:57:58 <peter1138> Does anyone making NewGRF sounds use higher than 8-bit 11025Hz samples... 09:59:52 *** Westie has joined #openttd 10:03:35 *** Guest8417 has quit IRC 10:04:19 <peter1138> I suppose converting back to 16 bit samples would save half the memory. 10:13:05 <locosage> you can probably guess that by newgrf size 10:13:20 <locosage> as sounds are completely uncompressed it gets ridiculous pretty fast 10:22:26 <peter1138> Hmm, OpenSFX and AltSFX are bigger. 10:24:03 <peter1138> Okay, well that just means the penalty for resampling is less. 10:28:21 <LordAro> mp3 support when? 10:36:01 <peter1138> Hmm, how to allocate a float buffer in an audio thread :/ 10:42:14 <LordAro> new float[N]; 10:42:16 <LordAro> :p 10:42:42 <peter1138> Sure... no :) 10:43:08 <peter1138> Memory allocation is not allowed in audio threads. 10:44:31 <peter1138> Preallocate and hope that the buffer size isn't changed? :o 10:48:15 <peter1138> Dear MPD, I cannot think of a time I want to add tracks to the playlist and only play... one of them. 10:52:07 <ahyangyi> `float preallocated_buffer[1 << 30]; // virtual memeory management is an illusion anyways` 10:53:06 <peter1138> :-) 10:53:21 <peter1138> Wow, who set the default buffer size to 8192 for XAudio2 :o 10:54:30 <peter1138> That's 200ms of audio latency. 10:56:59 <peter1138> XAudio2 is weird. 11:03:16 *** Westie has quit IRC 11:13:33 <peter1138> Oh dear. 11:57:32 <_pruple> where? 12:24:13 *** virtualrandomnumber has joined #openttd 12:24:18 *** virtualrandomnumber has quit IRC 12:53:39 <peter1138[d]> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1179042423649865749/image.png?ex=657857d3&is=6565e2d3&hm=3f689f72a11ffa360ef820ffff0efb12c3bbdeccc5da4c5b1b079d9b24f7e6cf& 12:54:50 <peter1138> This resampling is closer to the nyquist limit now, but there's a big noise spike. 12:54:55 <peter1138> Which is a ca-ching! noise. 13:17:03 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #11507: Fix #10926: New free wagons no longer sorted by type. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11507 13:17:56 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #11507: Fix #10926: New free wagons no longer sorted by type. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11507 13:17:57 <peter1138> Nothing to see here. 13:18:07 <_pruple> who said that? 13:18:38 <LordAro> lol 13:18:55 <_glx_> hehe 13:19:19 <peter1138> Normally v/u are used the other way around. 13:20:42 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 approved pull request #11507: Fix #10926: New free wagons no longer sorted by type. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11507#pullrequestreview-1752868980 13:22:39 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #11508: Fix #10811: Allow dragging vehicle in depot to any free row. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11508 13:23:08 <peter1138> Eh, "split by type" is probably better wording than "sorted by type" 13:26:58 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] glx22 approved pull request #11508: Fix #10811: Allow dragging vehicle in depot to any free row. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11508#pullrequestreview-1752887438 13:37:41 <andythenorth> hmm 13:37:44 <andythenorth> lunch was it? 13:39:48 <_pruple> in theory 13:40:23 <peter1138[d]> But in practice? 13:41:01 <andythenorth> yes both 13:41:05 <andythenorth> praxis? 13:41:15 <andythenorth> how about sardine paste on bread? 13:41:25 <andythenorth> it's gluten free bread made of potatos, because Wheat Issues 13:48:13 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #11507: Fix #10926: New free wagons no longer split by type. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11507 13:52:40 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #11508: Fix #10811: Allow dragging vehicle in depot to any free row. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11508 14:12:18 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler closed issue #11506: Pathfinder doesn't consider blocked tiles past destination station https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/11506 14:12:21 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler commented on issue #11506: Pathfinder doesn't consider blocked tiles past destination station https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/11506 14:12:51 <peter1138> How do you make a NewGRF with a callback now? 14:12:58 <andythenorth> grf-py? 14:13:01 <andythenorth> yagl? 14:13:13 <andythenorth> I would probably use the examples that ship with nml 14:13:14 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler commented on issue #7941: Pathfinder doesn't consider blocked tiles past destination station https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/7941 14:13:20 <andythenorth> and just add a callback to the example train 14:22:09 <peter1138> Oof, it's getting chilly 14:24:45 <_pruple> I have another "is this intentional or is it a bug" question, and it's not peter's fault this time; 14:24:57 <peter1138> It probably is. 14:26:07 <_pruple> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1179065691450658916/Unnamed_1950-06-06.png?ex=65786d7e&is=6565f87e&hm=31ac8079345c97ab345cba5b8ffea32a31c9fdb2b132ababae41c2e6fd9668b4& 14:26:07 <_pruple> I can add rail stations to the DFLT category, and also use them to rename the category. But I can't do the same with road stops; they just don't show up if I add them to DFLT. 14:27:07 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] zephyris opened issue #11509: [Bug]: The window restore down button does not change window size when launched maximised https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/11509 14:27:23 <_zephyris> Let's see if 'enhancement' get's put on this one 🙂 14:30:51 <_pruple> peter1138: it's more likely a question for _jgr_ , since he added the feature... 14:31:13 <peter1138> newgrf_roadstop.cpp:450 14:31:38 <peter1138> I think that > 1 should be == 1. 14:31:48 <peter1138> Oh, it's a combined ! 14:32:00 <peter1138> Forget that. 14:32:11 <peter1138> I dislike combined negated conditions. 14:32:23 <peter1138> Probably based on my code :) 14:32:46 <peter1138> I think it's close those. 14:32:47 <peter1138> *though 14:32:56 <_jgr_> In principle, adding roadstops to the default class and renaming it should be allowed 14:33:09 <_jgr_> Not that I've ever tested this case 14:33:11 <peter1138> If the class is DFLT then it doesn't actually check if it has new stops. 14:33:17 <peter1138> :453 14:33:24 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler updated pull request #10700: Codechange: Split dates and timers into Economy and Calendar time https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10700 14:34:11 <talltyler> Trailing whitespace, really? What an amateur move. 14:34:48 <peter1138> Yeah, when I found out that VS Code could automatically strip those... 14:35:15 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler updated pull request #10700: Codechange: Split dates and timers into Economy and Calendar time https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10700 14:35:35 <talltyler> To be fair, it was right after a 30-commit rebase... 😛 14:35:46 <talltyler> I'll cut myself a bit of slack there 14:36:26 *** Flygon has quit IRC 14:39:30 <peter1138> Ah yes the "holy shit it finished!" relief. 14:41:56 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 14:47:28 <_pruple> ah, the plot thickens... 14:47:36 <andythenorth> is it custard? 14:47:43 <_pruple> yes 14:47:46 <peter1138> Double cream? 14:47:51 <andythenorth> the custard thickens 14:48:00 <peter1138> With a skin? 14:48:06 <andythenorth> rhubarb? 14:48:14 <LordAro> oh yes please 14:48:28 <peter1138> All my rhubarb has given up for winter. 14:48:35 <_pruple> playing around with test grfs, adding to DFLT and renaming it *does* work, if there's another class defined too. 14:48:53 <peter1138> It's newgrf_roadstop.cpp:453 14:49:08 <peter1138> Fix that and then it'll probably work :) 14:50:27 <_pruple> 👍 I am with understanding. 14:51:33 <peter1138> Do we need to timestamp audio events? 14:51:47 <peter1138> I wonder if that is why running sounds never worked well. 14:52:05 <andythenorth> such audio in games 14:52:13 <andythenorth> I forget all the things we used to do in Flash games 14:52:18 <andythenorth> it was always quite....organic 14:52:28 <rau117> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1179072321923862608/image.png?ex=657873ab&is=6565feab&hm=baa78c24d798ab94dff63891794e7e80d635083639b8c648cbdb269a85debd70& 14:52:28 <rau117> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1179072322242617375/image.png?ex=657873ab&is=6565feab&hm=bb3e84d9de67108afb9de41148112ca4927e7f33c02973d929afac4636c04f42& 14:52:28 <rau117> Okey… let me ask about “Is this a bug or is it intended?” too. 14:52:28 <rau117> Train groups retain the “wagon removal” parameter as it was at the time the group was created, but do not respond to the general parameter - when autoreplacing via “All Trains”, this parameter is marked “wagon removal **(ungrouped trains)**”. 14:52:28 <rau117> Thus, if at the beginning of the game you forgot about this button and created a hundred groups, in order to avoid problems with an extra car, you will have to manually go through all the groups and switch this parameter individually (or delete all groups and create them again). 14:52:30 <andythenorth> stuff like counting max sounds 14:52:41 <andythenorth> and stereo panning 14:52:52 <peter1138> I'm sure I once HAD a patch to timestamp sounds. But it was years ago. 14:53:07 <andythenorth> rau117: look in the commit that changed it 14:53:13 <andythenorth> and read the rationale 14:54:22 <LordAro> (or at least report it as a bug properly) 14:55:10 <peter1138> It is a function that we've hidden behind ctrl? :D 14:55:37 <_jgr_> I'm not sure I get why it would be useful to timestamp sounds, once they're triggered there's nothing else which is synchronised with them 14:55:48 <peter1138> I don't think toggling wagon removal for ungrouped trains should automatically propagate to the rest, without intervention. 14:56:56 <peter1138> The issue is that sounds are effectively "queued" until the next audio buffer is processed. 14:56:58 <rau117> LordAro: That’s why I’m asking here, so as not to make a bug report only to have it immediately canceled as “as intended.” 14:58:07 <LordAro> that's definitely true 14:58:45 <peter1138> By default we've set that to 1024, (23 ms), so it's not a big issue, but for XAudio2 it defaults to 8192 (185ms) for some reason. 14:59:05 <LordAro> but in cases where it is unclear, an "official" bug report will be helpful in working out what could be improved 14:59:17 <peter1138> This means sounds can be requested in different game ticks, but the sounds actually start at the same time. 14:59:44 <LordAro> if nothing else, it gives us something to point at and say "this is intended" and the justifications why, rather than "we had a conversation about this on discord months ago, didn't you see it?" 14:59:53 <peter1138> Even with a low buffer size, it means the time a start sounds is not consistent with the tick it was requested. 15:01:41 <_jgr_> Even then, does that matter? It's just tooting, choo-choo, etc noises 15:02:13 <_jgr_> There's no lip sync requirements 15:03:09 <peter1138> Given that TTDPatch introduced running sounds that should play a sound on a specific tick... yes. 15:04:19 <peter1138> It's pretty simple to do as well, except for that pesky fast-forward that upsets time. 15:04:41 <andythenorth> here, I did GitHub for rau117 https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/7441 15:04:56 <andythenorth> and the linked issue ticket 15:05:08 <peter1138> andythenorth, thanks apparently I hadn't deleted that branch. 15:05:24 <andythenorth> the grf docks branch? 😄 15:05:34 <peter1138> No, that one's gone ;) 15:12:44 *** tokai has joined #openttd 15:12:44 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 15:16:03 <peter1138> I think I introduced another bug. 15:16:37 <peter1138> I did :) 15:16:46 <LordAro> honestly 15:17:16 <peter1138> /* Shuffle() will also Play() if necessary, only start once */ 15:17:19 <peter1138> It doesn't any more :-) 15:19:21 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC 15:56:43 <_glx_> I think wagon removal stuff is mostly an "it's very hard to do nice UI about this flag" 15:57:19 <peter1138> "ctrl-click to follow-through" 15:57:35 <peter1138> (Not good UX) 16:15:55 <talltyler> 65 annotations found, big oops somewhere 😛 16:27:14 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler updated pull request #10700: Codechange: Split dates and timers into Economy and Calendar time https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10700 16:36:41 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 16:41:35 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 16:48:15 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] anatolyeltsov updated pull request #10541: Feature: Industry production graph https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10541 17:14:58 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #11510: Fix ab1a4c6c: Changing baseset/playlist while shuffle is on does not change song. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11510 17:18:18 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler approved pull request #11510: Fix ab1a4c6c: Changing baseset/playlist while shuffle is on does not change song. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11510#pullrequestreview-1753465680 17:19:09 <peter1138> Such plinky tunes :p 17:19:22 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 17:21:56 <peter1138> Some of #10700 is still a bit wonky. 17:23:32 <peter1138> Engine life length and build year don't make sense as Economy time. 17:24:02 <peter1138> I know you said "they are in sync for now", but I don't think that makes it logically correct. 17:31:22 <talltyler> I kept those as economy time because they are “game balance” 17:32:02 <talltyler> I could be convinced otherwise 🙂 17:32:39 <peter1138> IMHO making them economy time defeats one of primary reasons for stretching time. 17:32:48 <talltyler> Economy and calendar time are in sync for now but every change here is planning for when they are not 17:32:56 <peter1138> Yes, exactly. 17:33:06 <talltyler> But that’s purchase availability, not life length, right? 17:34:24 <peter1138> lifelength determines availability based on date. 17:35:37 <rau117> andythenorth: This is what I was afraid of, “works as intended”. 17:37:26 <rau117> Probably the most straightforward solution would be to add another button “force wagon removal for [red text] all groups”. 17:38:07 <talltyler> Oh, I thought it was life length of a vehicle, not the engine. 17:38:32 <talltyler> Because you are correct, life length of the engine should be calendar time. 17:38:55 <peter1138> life of a vehicle should be calendar time too, anyway. 17:44:36 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #11510: Fix ab1a4c6c: Changing baseset/playlist while shuffle is on does not change song. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11510 17:52:02 <talltyler> Well, I’m happy to drop those commits 🙂 17:58:24 <andythenorth> did we do templated train consists yet? 17:59:15 <andythenorth> instead of autoreplace, a pointer to an existing train 17:59:41 <andythenorth> not massively different to cloning in concept 18:00:13 <andythenorth> different user experience though 18:00:24 <FLHerne> there's a patch for it in JGRPP 18:00:30 <andythenorth> yeah I broke it 🙂 18:00:37 <FLHerne> it's very useful 18:00:42 <andythenorth> and the discord channel had to explain to me how to use it 18:01:03 <andythenorth> I think it's for advanced players, which I am not 18:01:26 <jfs> someone offered a PR for it some years ago, but as far as I remember the code wasn't great and the UI was really weird (dissimilar to existing things) 18:01:51 <andythenorth> every conversation I've had about it seems to involve somewhere to keep shadow consists off map 18:01:59 <andythenorth> and to use up existing vehicles by assigning them to consists 18:02:07 <andythenorth> and other such wonderfully advanced features 18:02:10 <andythenorth> whereas 18:02:16 <andythenorth> - vehicle visits depot 18:02:24 <andythenorth> - entire consist is cleared of vehicles 18:02:54 <andythenorth> - consist has vehicles added, to match an existing real consist, by similar method to cloning 18:03:06 <andythenorth> - any cargo that was present before templated replace is re-added 18:03:14 <andythenorth> would be simple to understand 18:03:22 <andythenorth> 'match' rather than 'clone' 18:03:34 <andythenorth> obviously there would be pitchforks about vehicle age being reset 18:03:44 <andythenorth> and about leftover vehicles not being available for the player 18:03:51 <andythenorth> and not using up vehicles already in the depot 18:04:03 <andythenorth> and all the other reasons a handful of players find to prevent progress 🙂 18:04:03 <jfs> something like, manually upgrade one vehicle in a group, then push a button for "update all vehicles in group to match this one"? 18:04:07 <andythenorth> yes 18:04:22 <andythenorth> nominate one vehicle as the gestalt / prototype / source / etc 18:04:33 <andythenorth> leader 18:05:42 <andythenorth> pathfinder, trailblazer, original, paradigm, blueprint, archetype, exemplar, paragon, essence 18:05:47 <andythenorth> /me can thesaurus 😛 18:08:41 <jfs> maybe also make a manually triggerable order for a single vehicle where you point at another (sufficiently compatible) vehicle to order the first vehicle to go to depot and replace itself to match the pointed-at one 18:08:59 <jfs> (except for orders) 18:09:13 <andythenorth> hmm 18:09:22 <andythenorth> /me imagining self-modifying vehicles 18:09:27 <jfs> and then just have a way to mass-designate that order to a group or other displayed list of vehicles 18:09:27 <andythenorth> that would be another level 🙂 18:10:04 <jfs> like, vehicles sharing orders, or vehicles stopping at a specific station, or somesuch 18:10:52 <andythenorth> if there was a complex order set, consists could go to different depots and change themselves 18:11:01 <andythenorth> might rely on having n trains stopped in depot 18:11:04 <andythenorth> the abuses would be amazing 🙂 18:11:10 <andythenorth> reminds me a bit of this for some reason https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjR0_ourviA&list=PLPg4uCwL9BnAVYYfExYcqsOF1hiO0aSmY 18:11:24 <andythenorth> wait, I'm against complexity, yes/no? 😛 18:14:00 <talltyler> jfs: https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10476? 18:15:36 <jfs> that sounds quite much like it 18:16:15 <jfs> not the PR that I was talking about that was rejected, but rather what andy and I just proposed 18:17:22 <andythenorth> yes! 18:17:26 <andythenorth> convergent evolution 🙂 18:17:29 <jfs> https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/7145 18:17:36 <andythenorth> or I read the PR ages ago, and it re-appeared in my brain today 🙂 18:17:55 <andythenorth> 'templates' are an extra concept 18:17:59 <andythenorth> and concepts are hard 18:24:44 <peter1138[d]> Well. Isn't it 18:28:14 <andythenorth> orders that can change the consist though... 18:28:19 <andythenorth> beautiful chaos 18:38:46 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] eints-sync[bot] pushed 1 commits to master https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/commit/5f442c9127249b89571ba037ddcc5dfc002e4b29 18:38:47 <DorpsGek> - Update: Translations from eints (by translators) 18:41:22 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler updated pull request #10700: Codechange: Split dates and timers into Economy and Calendar time https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10700 18:41:49 <talltyler> ^^ vehicle and engine age now remains on calendar time 18:44:39 <andythenorth> 🙂 18:44:56 *** Westie has joined #openttd 18:47:06 *** virtualrandomnumber has joined #openttd 18:47:54 *** virtualrandomnumber has quit IRC 18:48:52 <Rubidium> talltyler, you'll need to rebase #11389 as it's more than 256 commits behind, and the commit checker doesn't appreciate that 18:50:26 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler updated pull request #11389: Cleanup: Initial untangling of town_cmd.cpp https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11389 18:50:36 <talltyler> I blame Peter for lots of GUI improvement commits 😛 18:50:43 <peter1138> "improvement" 18:51:45 <talltyler> "Change:" 😛 18:51:51 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN updated pull request #11489: Feature: Randomize direction of rail vehicle on build based on extra flags. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11489 18:52:02 <talltyler> Okay, cleaning up and standardizing 18:52:14 <talltyler> Not so much visual improvement to the player, but the code is undoubtedly nicer 18:56:29 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #11489: Feature: Randomize direction of rail vehicle on build based on probability callback. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11489#issuecomment-1830488958 18:56:58 <peter1138> There is one bit I'm stuck on with the layouts. 18:59:02 <peter1138[d]> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1179134373765841036/image.png?ex=6578ad75&is=65663875&hm=446b0e00699300034aed93c97b2a0965d3572e1a2cf94b85700c655d8315bedc& 18:59:03 <peter1138[d]> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1179134374093017088/image.png?ex=6578ad76&is=65663876&hm=3a2938fc39acd4bb62e200932fab625e0230f54e49090c80c1708b39da8ded32& 18:59:03 <peter1138[d]> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1179134374462095401/image.png?ex=6578ad76&is=65663876&hm=e01472f3901ed72eb8ab12d76613788680278c8e26d2ff9d8e59c7602ecbc62d& 18:59:03 <peter1138[d]> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1179134374818631680/image.png?ex=6578ad76&is=65663876&hm=a6ec2ac8ca2742c51905f806ed225c5531c3d8eab5a407e1b0078414b3d1e84e& 18:59:03 <peter1138[d]> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1179134375057686608/image.png?ex=6578ad76&is=65663876&hm=e3359863aac569b221b70d2916bd98c85339c0c72ac654481b83006c56d7cdd9& 18:59:11 <peter1138> Heh 18:59:21 <peter1138> So there's a very similar set of buttons on all those windows. 18:59:34 <peter1138> But there's not a log of consistency. 18:59:47 <talltyler> Wow 19:00:06 <peter1138> Also I've found a crash, argh. 19:01:07 <talltyler> Scripts don't have a website? 19:01:28 <peter1138[d]> I don't know 🙂 19:01:33 <_zephyris> Basesets don't have a website... 19:01:49 <peter1138[d]> But should they? 19:01:53 <talltyler> I've never uploaded a script to Bananas, but the website GUI has a field for a website 19:02:02 <talltyler> When adding a new item 19:02:05 <andythenorth> goes it ask GPT for a new UI? 19:02:09 <talltyler> No 19:02:13 <talltyler> Goes it ask Peter 😛 19:02:23 <peter1138[d]> It would need to be in the baseset obm/obg/obs files. 19:02:45 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 19:02:45 <frosch123> scripts have a url 19:02:46 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #11389: Cleanup: Initial untangling of town_cmd.cpp https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11389#pullrequestreview-1753681282 19:04:18 <talltyler> Thanks 🙏 19:05:32 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler commented on pull request #11489: Feature: Randomize direction of rail vehicle on build based on probability callback. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11489#issuecomment-1830503229 19:06:59 <frosch123> ok, the url is shown in the "available AIs" window as label, but there is no button to click 🙂 19:07:18 <frosch123> same for GS 19:07:41 <peter1138> Yes, I suspect we didn't have a URL opener when they were added :) 19:08:32 <frosch123> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1179136765467037706/image.png?ex=6578afb0&is=65663ab0&hm=906a9ef96a6890ee04d4e914429bac7dfaeda0f4b718ea55b5f20296304d1997& 19:08:32 <frosch123> good luck copy-typing the url 🙂 19:10:09 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #11489: Feature: Randomize direction of rail vehicle on build based on probability callback. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11489#issuecomment-1830510322 19:22:16 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #11511: Fix ab1a4c6c: Crash if the "No Music" set is loaded because there is no current set_index. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11511 19:22:17 <peter1138> La la la. 19:24:00 <peter1138> I'm so buggy :( 19:24:37 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler merged pull request #11389: Cleanup: Initial untangling of town_cmd.cpp https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11389 19:29:25 <peter1138> Hmm. 19:38:46 <peter1138[d]> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1179144371812184064/image.png?ex=6578b6c5&is=656641c5&hm=3b6dc9756b7eecdf5506d930b74df56f5e72d9e716597f966640004c6bca3bf1& 19:39:09 <peter1138[d]> I guess it's okay. 19:41:01 <_zephyris> 😀 19:41:25 <_zephyris> ... but overall, synchronising the appearance of all of those dialogs does sound like a good plan. 19:41:38 <talltyler> So I guess for a baseset that doesn't have a website, the button would just be disabled? 19:41:39 <peter1138[d]> Not sure if I have access to a URL yet, but still 🙂 19:41:47 <peter1138[d]> Yes, same as the other buttons. 19:41:56 <talltyler> Righto 19:43:23 <talltyler> Getting ahead of myself, but the Close button makes absolutely no sense to be part of that grouping 19:43:34 <peter1138[d]> Exactly! 19:43:45 <talltyler> And should probably be the usual window X instead of a text label 19:43:50 <peter1138[d]> There's no need for a text close button 19:53:23 *** DorpsGek_vi[1] has joined #openttd 19:54:44 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler commented on pull request #11511: Fix ab1a4c6c: Crash if the "No Music" set is loaded because there is no current set_index. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11511#pullrequestreview-1753818580 19:59:08 *** THC has joined #openttd 19:59:57 *** Kitrana1 has joined #openttd 20:00:31 *** kamnet has quit IRC 20:00:44 <THC> Welcome Kitrana1 20:00:46 *** belajalilija has quit IRC 20:00:51 *** sinas128 has quit IRC 20:00:51 *** locosage has quit IRC 20:00:56 *** rau117 has quit IRC 20:00:56 *** kuhnovic has quit IRC 20:00:56 *** talltyler has quit IRC 20:01:01 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 20:01:16 *** goddess_ishtar has quit IRC 20:01:16 *** truebrain has quit IRC 20:01:16 *** _jgr_ has quit IRC 20:01:16 *** merni has quit IRC 20:01:16 *** ahyangyi has quit IRC 20:01:21 *** xarick has quit IRC 20:01:21 *** nicness has quit IRC 20:01:21 *** emperorjake has quit IRC 20:01:21 *** _pruple has quit IRC 20:01:26 *** lamarr has quit IRC 20:01:26 *** brickblock19280 has quit IRC 20:01:31 *** jfs has quit IRC 20:01:31 *** georgevb has quit IRC 20:01:31 *** _zephyris has quit IRC 20:01:31 *** alfagamma7 has quit IRC 20:01:31 *** peter1138[d] has quit IRC 20:01:31 *** DorpsGek_vi has quit IRC 20:01:36 *** wensimehrp has quit IRC 20:01:36 *** michi_cc[d] has quit IRC 20:01:36 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 20:01:36 *** johnfranklin has quit IRC 20:01:36 *** _glx_ has quit IRC 20:05:27 *** Kitrana has quit IRC 20:06:17 <THC> hey 20:06:17 <THC> HI, Whats this? 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Have I broken this time. 20:34:33 <andythenorth> dunno if it was you 😄 20:34:48 <andythenorth> maybe it was TB 🙂 20:37:35 <peter1138> Christ, why am I in a mood? 20:37:51 <andythenorth> it's Nov 28th, look at the weather 😛 20:37:58 <andythenorth> that's my excuse anyway 20:42:07 *** peter1138[d] has joined #openttd 20:42:07 <peter1138[d]> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1179160312868515860/image.png?ex=6578c59e&is=6566509e&hm=ec4c1044e78e7d35fe357ccaeac34a48bda1ecfbfb53716cedc4437b9d849d8a& 20:42:07 <peter1138[d]> Dunno. 20:53:40 <peter1138> Alright. 20:54:38 <andythenorth> two peters? 20:56:58 <peter1138> Several. 20:58:27 *** talltyler has joined #openttd 20:58:27 <talltyler> Remind us what the rest of that window looks like? 20:58:41 <talltyler> (Not at a computer right now? 20:58:54 <talltyler> *) 21:02:22 <peter1138[d]> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1179165412320092352/image.png?ex=6578ca5e&is=6566555e&hm=335d368aea55cee4e3ae088d0f13e33afe6f892eff54d34b0b1d36aef3a27dfb& 21:02:22 <peter1138[d]> Currently: 21:02:38 <peter1138[d]> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008473233844097104/1179165478216814702/image.png?ex=6578ca6d&is=6566556d&hm=37799bcf9889cd0fc5957102341beba3271cfda42c483aa1d2b8350b202859b5& 21:02:38 <peter1138[d]> Tweaked: 21:04:12 *** jfs has joined #openttd 21:04:12 <jfs> thought, maybe the Select Game Script button should be moved up next to the script name? and just shortened to "change" or such 21:04:37 <jfs> but ofc that would be inconsistent with the AI config window 21:04:40 <peter1138[d]> Yes, probably. It's a left over from when the two windows were one. 21:05:06 <peter1138[d]> Well, they do need to be a bit different 🙂 21:05:20 <peter1138[d]> But... I'm not sure I want to change much more right now. 21:06:25 <talltyler> jfs: Yes, that was my thought exactly 21:07:37 <talltyler> And the Check Online Content button could move to the selection popup window, where you can see available scripts. 21:08:19 <peter1138[d]> Well 21:08:23 <peter1138[d]> That just makes sense that does. 21:08:33 <peter1138[d]> That would be against our design guidelines 😄 21:09:29 <peter1138[d]> Perhaps the Available AIs/Available Game Scripts could get the sparse-layout treatment. 21:09:56 <peter1138[d]> With a list on the left side, details (and url/textfile buttons) on the right side, 21:10:25 <peter1138[d]> Although then it might look too similar to the content download window, and therefore confusing. 21:10:50 <jfs> another thing is, I've never quite liked the "Check Online Content" wording, it seems kind of strange to me 21:10:50 <jfs> I would expect something more like "Browse Online Content" or even "Download Additional Content" 21:11:04 <peter1138[d]> Here's an idea. 21:11:19 <jfs> of course only "check" also encapsulates the "search for updates" part 21:11:23 <peter1138[d]> Why is the "select ai/gs list" separate from the content downloader... 21:11:48 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 21:11:48 <frosch123> the "check" part is from the newgrf window, mainly used for downloading missing content for joining multiplayer 21:12:19 <peter1138[d]> "Select AI/GS" could show you all you have installed... and also (after pressing the button) those that you could have... which it'll just download if needed. 21:12:31 <peter1138[d]> No separate installed/not installed lists. 21:12:46 <peter1138[d]> That sounds more usable to me, but also... a bigger project. 21:13:10 <jfs> that somewhat breaks the concept that the game only attempts to connect to the internet after you explicitly click a button that says something with online/network 21:13:22 <peter1138[d]> That's why I had "after pressing the button" 21:13:33 <jfs> oh missed that 21:13:50 <peter1138[d]> By default it only shows installed, you press the button to update the list to include not-installed items. 21:14:23 <frosch123> peter1138[d]: sounds reasonable. not sure where you would put ai/gs libraries. maybe they would be hidden unless ai/game_development_tools are enabled 21:14:47 <peter1138[d]> libraries are kind of irrelevant to download individually I think? 21:14:56 <jfs> yeah, not that interesting normally 21:15:05 <jfs> also, you could find/get them via console commands 21:15:07 <peter1138[d]> Especially for non-developer_tools, yeah. 21:16:08 <jfs> did the content downloader window get a feature to filter by content type yet? 21:16:36 <peter1138[d]> No, only by going to the appropriate section first. 21:16:52 <peter1138[d]> [metadata] 21:16:52 <peter1138[d]> url = https://... 21:17:27 <peter1138[d]> ^ baseset support... does the content upload stuff need to do anything to support that? 21:18:21 *** michi_cc[d] has joined #openttd 21:18:21 <michi_cc[d]> So, how much mess am I allowed to make in `cargopacket/cargoaction`.`h/cpp`? Thanks to cargodist, more or less everything in there is keyed and sorted by next station. I need next order, tough 😦 21:18:32 <peter1138[d]> I assume the .obg/m/s file is uploaded as part of the bundle and just contains whatever has been uploaded, but I don't know. 21:19:00 <peter1138[d]> michi_cc[d]: do it 21:19:24 <peter1138[d]> I think there's a general "cargodist is a bit meh isn't it?" vibe at the moment... 21:19:33 <frosch123> peter1138[d]: yes, the ob* files are verified. uploads with unknown fields are probably rejected 21:19:40 <peter1138[d]> Hmm. 21:20:22 <frosch123> https://github.com/OpenTTD/bananas-api/blob/main/bananas_api/new_upload/readers/base_graphics.py <- new line there and in the two other files 21:21:15 <frosch123> hmm, actually, probably rather in base_sets.py 21:21:19 <peter1138[d]> > Do you trust the authors of the files in this folder? 21:21:25 <peter1138[d]> Well isn't that the question. 21:22:19 <frosch123> oh, maybe it does not care about extra files 21:22:29 <frosch123> maybe just try uploading on staging 🙂 21:25:25 <peter1138[d]> Hmm, of course the content system already has a URL somewhere but that's not part of the baseset itself. 21:26:29 <frosch123> yes, the idea is that the bannaas-upload form reads the info from the uploaded content 21:26:55 <frosch123> i think we finished the "reading stuff", but never did the "prefill form stuff" 21:29:39 <andythenorth> "Get Mods" 21:29:46 <andythenorth> "Get DLC" 21:29:54 <andythenorth> "Get Paks" 21:29:57 <andythenorth> "Get Textures" 21:30:05 <andythenorth> "Get GFR" (for reddit users) 21:30:19 <frosch123> "Play as Andy" 21:33:26 <andythenorth> that would involve a lot of confusion 21:33:33 <andythenorth> but 7 fixed grfs and one G 21:40:24 *** nielsm has quit IRC 21:41:49 <talltyler> “Workshop” if we want to tick off both Valve and players 😛 21:42:34 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN opened pull request #11512: Add: "Visit Website" buttons to AI/GS and Baseset settings windows. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11512 21:43:21 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN commented on pull request #11511: Fix ab1a4c6c: Crash if the "No Music" set is loaded because there is no current set_index. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11511#pullrequestreview-1754001805 21:43:37 <andythenorth> what would EA call it? 21:44:04 <peter1138> Read and agree to this 250 page long EULA to find out. 21:46:01 *** asymptotically2 has quit IRC 21:46:06 *** asymptotically2 has joined #openttd 21:47:06 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler approved pull request #11511: Fix ab1a4c6c: Crash if the "No Music" set is loaded because there is no current set_index. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11511#pullrequestreview-1754006557 22:00:29 <andythenorth> hmm do I miss the income / expense animations? 22:00:41 <andythenorth> dunno 22:01:07 <peter1138> Press the button to turn them on. 22:01:16 <peter1138> And think of a better icon :p 22:02:15 <andythenorth> but loading indicators 😛 22:02:23 <andythenorth> are just noise 🙂 22:02:37 <peter1138> Aren't the income messages too? 22:03:45 <andythenorth> maybe yes 22:03:54 <andythenorth> game is calmer without them 22:06:47 *** m1cr0man has quit IRC 22:14:21 *** m1cr0man has joined #openttd 22:17:00 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] JGRennison opened pull request #11513: Fix: Deleting towns did not check for waypoints referencing the town https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11513 22:22:22 *** wensimehrp has joined #openttd 22:22:22 <wensimehrp> andythenorth: Some Chinese players mixes up G an J, and they say "I want JRF." 22:22:22 <wensimehrp> :JRC: : 22:26:15 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] 2TallTyler approved pull request #11513: Fix: Deleting towns did not check for waypoints referencing the town https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11513#pullrequestreview-1754065287 22:28:10 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 22:30:52 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] PeterN merged pull request #11499: Codechange: Use a few less NUM_CARGO loops. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11499 22:35:25 *** _glx_ has joined #openttd 22:35:25 <_glx_> oh nightlies are broken for a week now 22:37:06 *** tokai|noir has joined #openttd 22:37:06 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai|noir 22:37:21 <peter1138> Nice 22:40:10 <_glx_> ``` Error: You are using macOS 11. 22:40:10 <_glx_> We (and Apple) do not provide support for this old version. 22:40:10 <_glx_> It is expected behaviour that some formulae will fail to build in this old version. 22:40:15 <_glx_> that's fun 🙂 22:44:06 *** tokai has quit IRC 22:47:02 <peter1138> Oh things got updated and broken? 22:47:04 <_glx_> fixing macos should be simple, fixing linux might be harder 22:48:18 <peter1138> Something about python3. 22:49:59 <_glx_> nah python3 pass after some retries, but libmount still fails at the end 22:53:24 <_glx_> but last change in this port was 7 months ago 22:58:31 *** _jgr_ has joined #openttd 22:58:31 <_jgr_> I also ran into this issue recently, changing the vcpkg cache key and cloning an older version of vcpkg was enough to work around it 23:00:59 <_glx_> yeah the issue is we force the use of latest vcpkg for linux releases 23:23:29 *** xarick has joined #openttd 23:23:29 <xarick> OpenAI learned how to break encryption 23:23:58 <peter1138> No it didn't. 23:24:34 <xarick> okay, NSA and OpenAI broke encryption 23:25:37 <Rubidium> peter1138: hasn't it already broken double ROT13 encryption? ;D 23:26:32 <xarick> now all that needs to happen is... have some bad actor (as if NSA wasn't bad enough) to send humanity into chaos 23:27:07 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #11513: Fix: Deleting towns did not check for waypoints referencing the town https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11513#pullrequestreview-1754124354 23:27:19 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 merged pull request #11513: Fix: Deleting towns did not check for waypoints referencing the town https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11513 23:28:58 <xarick> the end of the digital world 😦 23:35:35 <LordAro> no it isn't 23:37:35 <xarick> I read some hopefully fake videos about some leaked OpenAI research work 23:39:23 <_jgr_> YouTube is not news 23:40:18 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 commented on pull request #11512: Add: "Visit Website" buttons to AI/GS and Baseset settings windows. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11512#pullrequestreview-1754138081 23:41:25 <xarick> well, it was this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jByDZdRxiSs if anyone interested in that kind of theories 23:43:01 * Rubidium wonders how much of that is hallucinated by "AI" 23:43:01 <LordAro> try not to fall down the youtube conspiracy theory rabbit hole 23:43:09 <LordAro> it's very deep 23:45:43 <_glx_> escape from the algorithm 23:59:25 <DorpsGek> [OpenTTD/OpenTTD] rubidium42 approved pull request #11489: Feature: Randomize direction of rail vehicle on build based on probability callback. https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/11489#pullrequestreview-1754161631