Log for #openttdcoop on 2nd May 2009:
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00:00:11  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> stations are way oversized
00:00:45  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> eh, they could get that busy.... but probably not with that short and fast-accelerating a train
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00:03:58  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> station name for the sbahn is by-player, nothing conventional?
00:04:17  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> by major
00:04:32  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> y
00:04:42  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> trottingbridge have the most potential deisng so far
00:04:45  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> i know the majors, like the ICE transfers will be different..
00:04:57  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> Windybridge:
00:05:00  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> and windy is just cheating
00:05:05  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> and failing at cheating
00:05:08  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> lol
00:05:16  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> cheating, why?
00:05:25  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> station walk
00:05:27  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> :o
00:05:30  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> where?
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00:05:41  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> right in the middle
00:05:42  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> ho
00:05:45  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> nvm
00:05:49  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> it's jsut a dud station
00:06:22  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> can i destroy it and build my sbahn?
00:06:28  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> you alk a lot rubish currently
00:06:45  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> that'd be very impolite
00:07:09  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> i know
00:07:12  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> please make first a plan
00:07:15  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> but at least it'll get build
00:07:24  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> so the pax is still serviced until you get more
00:07:49  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I just build it quite fast to have some pax
00:07:57  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> kik why ut's epic slow anyways
00:08:09  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> it generate no passangers
00:08:29  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> the roads are quite sparse
00:08:36  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I didn't want to use the ugly transrapid
00:09:04  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> why nots
00:09:10  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I liked to make chaos
00:09:11  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> my design call for uber acceleration
00:11:20  <PublicServer> <Ant> whats the [far end] bit after train orders? :S
00:11:41  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> location of the train in a station
00:11:59  <PublicServer> <Ant> How you set that then?
00:12:09  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> (if the train is shorter than plattorm
00:12:15  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> just click, afaik
00:12:25  <PublicServer> <Ant> oh that patch made it then ^^
00:12:44  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> ah, for if thetrain is shorter, which end it stops at?.. odd
00:12:56  <KenjiE20|LT> click to highlight, click again to rotate
00:12:59  <PublicServer> <Ant> I been outta this far too long...
00:13:07  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> mainly a eye candy feature
00:13:07  <mensi> who just blew away my signals
00:13:10  <mensi> ?
00:13:44  <KenjiE20|LT> WHERE user = AmmIer s/mainly/entirely/
00:13:45  <mensi> ah some PBS junkie?
00:13:47  <KenjiE20|LT> :P
00:14:17  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> hmm, don't think so
00:14:49  <mensi> and who the hell is building trains with the wrong length in Trottingsbridge?
00:15:45  <mensi> and setting wrong orders !?!?!?
00:16:03  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> and wrong orders
00:16:09  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> he
00:16:50  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> lol wrong length?
00:16:53  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> wherez?
00:16:55  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> lol. I built a wooden maglev bridge :P
00:17:07  <PublicServer> <Ant> wtf? lol
00:17:12  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> WTF?
00:17:20  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> lol, thats so.. anachronistic
00:19:22  <Godde> do i use dual exit presignals for the loop track for the sbahn?
00:20:08  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> never use 2way signals
00:20:21  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> except you know why.
00:20:33  <Godde> they are placed at the sbahn at the public server...?
00:21:02  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> eyecandy terminuses are the only acceptable two-ways, right?
00:21:10  <De_Ghost> why
00:21:14  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> no
00:21:17  <De_Ghost> u can build 1 way eye candies
00:21:24  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> add underused to that
00:21:28  <De_Ghost> u can build eye candy with no function
00:21:30  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> 2way is for forcing trains to take an other route
00:21:31  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> i never said you couldn't
00:21:40  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> ah....
00:21:47  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> like it is used in Ramblewill
00:21:50  <Godde> so that means i use it at a SRN
00:22:40  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> what is SRN?
00:22:52  <Godde> selfregulatingnetwork :P thought i was making it easy
00:22:55  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> i'm gonan rebuild windy brisge
00:23:09  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> blah i missed
00:23:15  <Godde> or sbahn or whatever you call it
00:23:25  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> oversize keyboard then undersize key board messes ur typing
00:23:31  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> well, it depense on how you build the SR Network
00:24:02  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> but I could imagine, you need there to reroute trains.
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00:24:24  <Godde> ye
00:25:41  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> anyway. gn folks
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00:25:50  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> night planet
00:25:56  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> he, pm was here
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00:27:21  <Godde> is there any way of copying trains with shared orders?
00:27:32  <mensi> hold control
00:27:33  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> try not to connect towns with roads
00:27:36  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> ctrl+clone
00:27:42  <Godde> thanks
00:28:34  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> or if you do, use road blocker
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00:32:08  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> u know?
00:32:19  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> hm?
00:32:21  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> tracks in RWL leads nowhere
00:32:22  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> lol
00:32:45  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> or maybe i missed a trace
00:32:46  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> maybe you should check the plan
00:32:51  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> yup, it's partly unfinished, it seems
00:33:05  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> yup it leads no where
00:33:07  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> it need the boarder stations
00:33:35  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> the big plan
00:33:40  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> or is there a local plan
00:34:20  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> is that needed?
00:34:26  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> isn't it obvious?
00:34:30  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> no
00:34:33  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> not really
00:34:49  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> i mean somone closed the loop
00:35:09  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> yeah, that is wrong
00:35:31  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> well, not wrong
00:35:46  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> the bypass is for excess trains
00:36:39  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> i see a problem
00:36:54  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> there is no point of having such tight signal gap in rwl
00:37:08  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> since the largest gap is 4 tiles long
00:37:44  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> and why is that a problem?
00:37:50  <De_Ghost> it's not
00:37:55  <De_Ghost> but might get jammy
00:38:27  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> that city is overserviced anyway ;-)
00:38:30  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> acually
00:38:31  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> nvm
00:38:40  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> the city don't produce enough pax
00:38:45  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> the platform will never max
00:38:54  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> it could do the job with a quarter of stations
00:38:55  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> cuz there is more tracks then city tiles
00:39:18  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> yea
00:39:32  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> even the platform in the middle is barely getting used cuz there not enough city buildings
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00:46:31  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> hey, whoever is helping me with sligs, shall i lay roads the rest of the way and you lay maglev?
00:46:41  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> or at least until the next ring?
00:47:41  <mensi> I just intended to get a rough idea of the whole spacing
00:48:00  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> you've got it, it's pretty simple.. i prefer to keep it simple
00:48:03  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> the 2 northern rings are bigger then the southern
00:48:15  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> the hardest part may be getting the ICE transfer in
00:48:22  <Godde> !tunnels 15 4
00:48:22  <PublicServer> Godde: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 15 and gap 4.
00:48:27  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> hm.. they are...
00:48:51  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> i wasn't too worried about the length, i'll just remove the specification to number of stations in the plan
00:49:00  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> those will probably be 3..
00:49:11  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> wheras the SE ring is the smallest
00:49:53  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> check sign SLGSN TRANSFER
00:50:12  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> NW actually transfers W
00:50:19  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> NE services N
00:50:31  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> well, I would change that
00:50:42  <Godde> !tunnels 6 10
00:50:42  <PublicServer> Godde: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 6 and gap 10.
00:51:03  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> why?
00:51:05  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> you don't have much space on the north for east
00:51:21  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> they each only service one
00:51:36  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> or am i missing something?
00:51:38  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> yeah, that's why
00:52:08  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> I'm skipping a city block !here
00:52:12  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> or half of one, maybe
00:52:19  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> for the drop, was my plan..
00:52:26  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> would it be better to switch it that way?
00:52:44  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> well, it is your plan
00:52:45  <Godde> !password
00:52:45  <PublicServer> Godde: tartar
00:52:53  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> u know
00:52:59  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I made just a suggestion :-)
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00:53:01  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> ur station wil get overwhelmed
00:53:10  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> if u ever transport the area around them
00:53:21  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> omg, 3 o'clock
00:53:27  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> the night is young
00:53:28  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> you're the more experienced cooper, give me some solid advice.. iw as just explaining my thinnking.. you've much more experience than i
00:53:51  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> well, dosn't matter
00:53:59  <AntBUK> uhm, don't mean to interupt and this could sound really stupid, but anyone know what package XV headers are in (linux)?
00:54:05  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> planning belongs to the game
00:54:25  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> you should also be able to alter the plan, if you think, it is easer, everything up2you
00:55:00  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> me is wondering, if your short trains will be able to servcie that city.
00:55:16  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> I had considered it, but i'm just unsure, if you think it's better, then i'm all for it, i could begin running service
00:55:40  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> the ppoint of the short trains was to be able to fit lots of them.. it's not hard to dd more plats as needed
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00:55:50  <Godde> G'night :)
00:55:56  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> or that was my design
00:55:58  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> night godde
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00:57:32  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> but then i'll do that and change the plan.. i just have to figure out how to make a RoRo there and fit it in that stations alotted 64
00:57:45  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> actually...
00:57:47  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> i can't
00:57:52  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> it's 61 long already
00:58:02  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> which one
00:58:15  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> SLGS Norts
00:58:17  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> indeed
00:58:20  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> *north
00:58:29  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> you need to use the noth-east ring for north
00:58:42  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> then i guess i'll stick to that
00:58:50  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> true.
01:02:06  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> hm, i just thought of something
01:02:21  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> the flow for this is all wrong...
01:02:28  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> but i have an idea...
01:02:54  <PublicServer> <davis> iam scared
01:02:55  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> what if i made the inner loop leaving from the ICE pickup, and the outer headed to?
01:03:24  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> far less mess, and less congestion of trains doing all sorts of different things
01:04:17  <De_Ghost> !calc 9*4 +6*2
01:04:22  <De_Ghost> !math 9*4 +6*2
01:05:20  <mensi> I built the SW ICE station... ZarenorDarkstalker, any plans on how to connect to that?
01:05:57  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> Planning a droporr !here
01:06:04  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> sorry.. !Here
01:06:15  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> u know?
01:06:27  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> u need 4 platform forevery line
01:06:32  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> going to pickup will be inner line
01:06:35  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> that's for pickup/drop
01:06:45  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> pickup plus drop will require at min 8 platform
01:06:47  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> outer line headed to ICE
01:07:05  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> pickup need waiting so u need at least 10-12 platform
01:07:05  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> I'm working on the rewiring for that
01:07:08  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> per light
01:07:17  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> line*
01:08:27  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> kinda oversized
01:08:41  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> me is wondering, how that game will end
01:08:50  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> but anyway good night all
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01:08:56  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> night ammler
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01:11:13  <Kupuham> !password
01:11:14  <PublicServer> Kupuham: gourds
01:11:51  <Kupuham> Hi there people ! =)
01:12:04  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> Hey Kupu
01:14:25  <Kupuham> what is the command to get the nightly? I saw it sometimes, but never memorize it =x
01:14:31  <Kupuham> !ver
01:14:48  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> and then win32, or 64, or lin.. etc.
01:14:57  <Kupuham> !ver win32
01:15:14  <Kupuham> !v w32
01:17:21  <gleeb> !dl
01:17:21  <PublicServer> gleeb: !dl autostart|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x
01:17:27  <gleeb> !dl win32
01:17:27  <PublicServer> gleeb:
01:17:44  <gleeb> Kupuham: That what you want?
01:17:51  <Kupuham> Yes, thanks =)
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01:20:16  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> hey kupu
01:20:22  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Hi
01:21:17  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Waw
01:21:37  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> pretty insane, isn't it?
01:22:04  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Yeah, looks quite plausible , altough a bit artificial
01:22:22  <ZarenorDarkstalker> lol
01:22:46  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> But I live in a 'planned city' so I guess I could relate to it
01:23:24  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> how planned a city?
01:23:44  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> ?
01:24:53  <mensi> ZarenorDarkstalker, are you going to build a second ICE transfer like the nice one you did north for the other north ring?
01:25:15  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> I didn't butil any ICE transfer, wish i could claim it
01:25:24  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> I've worked on only the city itself
01:25:28  <mensi> ah ok
01:25:38  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> i believe ammler built the northern transfer
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01:25:58  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> but i was planning on doing the west drop after i finish the NW quadrant
01:26:04  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> so i can try and have something running
01:26:10  <[1]Booth> hi
01:26:16  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> Sup Booth?
01:26:20  <[1]Booth> the sky
01:26:23  <[1]Booth> !password
01:26:23  <PublicServer> [1]Booth: larked
01:26:26  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> Care to see the madness the noob has cooked up today?
01:26:49  <[1]Booth> yeah
01:26:52  <[1]Booth> what you done?
01:27:07  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> A very basic Sbhan
01:27:10  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> not SR
01:27:12  <[1]Booth> !password
01:27:13  <PublicServer> [1]Booth: larked
01:27:20  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> but i may have screwed it up anyway :P
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01:27:26  <[1]Booth> sbahn doesnt need to SR
01:27:37  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> what city?
01:27:40  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> Sligs
01:27:49  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> NW corrner of the SW city
01:27:58  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> u need more planning
01:28:32  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> not really, it's completely expanndable
01:28:37  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> that being the point...
01:28:42  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> no it's not
01:28:47  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> how isn't it?
01:28:51  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> expanding it is like building it all over
01:28:58  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> it doesn't box itself in
01:29:02  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> and it's fast
01:29:21  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> u don't plan ahead
01:29:30  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> ur station is not gonna catch all the pax
01:29:32  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> if it does
01:29:36  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> it's  gonna overload
01:29:41  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> when u rebuild it bigger
01:29:45  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> ur line is gonna clutter
01:29:51  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> then u rebuild the ring
01:29:59  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> then u just keep rebuilding as thing crops up
01:30:05  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> and it will
01:30:16  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> cuz u build to the minimal
01:30:29  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> 2x3 platform
01:30:30  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> you don't need to build to more than the minimal
01:30:41  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> u do unless u want to build to the next eon
01:30:46  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> if you build to more than the minimal, you could waste space
01:30:57  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> that's why u plan ahead
01:31:00  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> wheras if you give yourself room to expand, you can expand as demand grows
01:31:05  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> and prototype ideas on the side
01:31:31  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> its not a bad sbahn
01:31:40  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> compared to some
01:31:52  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> such as windybridge
01:31:55  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> like windy
01:31:56  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> lol
01:32:19  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> windy need to be majiced down
01:32:53  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> just wait
01:32:56  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> still testing ideas
01:33:09  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ghosty
01:33:16  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> wha
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01:35:08  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ghosty check windy bridge north for compact idea
01:36:08  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> :o?
01:37:06  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> very compact
01:37:12  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> very expandable
01:37:13  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> put a road grid over it
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01:40:01  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> hey
01:40:12  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> is this based on that train order
01:40:13  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> hm?
01:40:18  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> where it goes to furtest platform?
01:40:38  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> the "far end" order?
01:41:34  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> see how it works now ghosty?
01:41:55  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> so each row only need 3 wide
01:42:05  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> so its 50% efficent
01:42:22  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> moving demo please
01:42:25  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> i don't see it
01:42:29  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> :o
01:42:55  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> tran enter from right side of screen right
01:42:56  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> ?
01:43:02  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yeah
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01:43:23  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> mark built one in lat self reg psg pax game
01:43:30  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i think it was 117
01:43:36  <[1]Booth> !archive
01:43:36  <PublicServer> [1]Booth: http://www.openttdcoop.ORG/wiki/PublicServer:Archive |
01:43:40  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> how does train get on the last platform?
01:44:07  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> its self reg
01:44:14  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> so train fills plat 1
01:44:21  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and emptys at plat 2
01:44:33  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> when trian is in plat 2 a train can enter plat 1
01:45:05  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> check PSG 118
01:45:11  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> kk
01:45:14  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> brb
01:45:21  <De_Ghost> !wiki
01:45:21  <PublicServer> De_Ghost:
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01:46:02  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Sorry if it's stupid, but I'm new to this, so the idea would be people are dropped @2 to go to other cities?
01:46:41  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> right, when they get dropped at an ICE station, they take the bigger train to another city
01:46:44  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> o i see
01:46:50  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> yea i don't like tha design
01:47:05  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but its compact
01:47:06  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> it's too slow
01:47:23  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> so u can never achieve past 60% efficenty or sumthing
01:47:26  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> what about the one i used in central city?
01:47:33  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> where?
01:47:40  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> in psg 118
01:47:47  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> the biggest city
01:47:49  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> rarningridge?
01:47:52  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yeah
01:47:58  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> the main network
01:47:59  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> takes too much space
01:48:10  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no it doesnt
01:48:33  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> traningwell right?
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01:48:56  <[1]Booth> t ridge
01:49:31  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> traningwell ridge?
01:49:46  <[1]Booth> treminal to terminal 1
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01:49:57  <[1]Booth> t ridge termianl 1 sbahn network
01:50:49  <[1]Booth> look at t ridge south#
01:51:00  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> i sec
01:51:02  <[1]Booth> the way the exit and entrance run the same way
01:51:05  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> i was just studing screenshot
01:51:06  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> hahaha
01:51:17  <[1]Booth> with 1 plat station in the middle
01:51:45  <[1]Booth> or turnninghead
01:51:53  <[1]Booth> but personaly i like trunninghead best
01:52:00  <PublicServer> <davis> :o
01:52:15  <De_Ghost> !dl win32
01:52:16  <PublicServer> De_Ghost:
01:52:19  <[1]Booth> it can be compacted to 3 lines
01:52:22  <[1]Booth> as i have shown
01:55:26  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Trains are too frequen in trotting~ , that a feature?
01:55:31  <De_Ghost> can't load save with current grf
01:55:48  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> you mean too frequent to be full?
01:55:50  <De_Ghost> yea trotting is designed like that
01:55:52  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> try it in stable
01:55:59  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> that's a feature...
01:56:10  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> ok, sorry =)
01:56:11  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> for when it decides to be a big city
01:56:13  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i cant get it to load in anything but 7.3
01:56:18  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> :P
01:57:07  <De_Ghost> nope still crash
01:57:09  <De_Ghost> instant
01:57:18  <De_Ghost> u got a picture/
01:57:23  <De_Ghost> i can tell alot from a picture
01:59:15  <[1]Booth> email address?
01:59:24  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> image shack?
01:59:53  <[1]Booth> i have 3 images
02:01:04  <De_Ghost> well u gotta uplaod em anyways
02:01:05  <De_Ghost> lol
02:01:21  <De_Ghost>
02:01:23  <[1]Booth> i am putting them on
02:01:35  <[1]Booth>
02:02:20  <[1]Booth>
02:03:03  <[1]Booth>
02:03:42  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i think image 2 is best IMO
02:04:07  <De_Ghost> well 1 and 2 don't transport everything
02:04:49  <[1]Booth> they do with very small station walks
02:04:53  <De_Ghost> niether does 3 :o
02:05:00  <De_Ghost> really?
02:05:03  <De_Ghost> more study :o
02:05:10  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> And 3 is just like trotting, am I right?
02:05:37  <De_Ghost> which one?
02:05:45  <De_Ghost> i think trotting is better build right now
02:05:47  <[1]Booth> 1 transprted everything i built it my self
02:06:11  <De_Ghost> u station walked 1?
02:06:16  <[1]Booth> yeah
02:06:19  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> I mean your screenshot #3 is just like what is in trotting now
02:06:39  <[1]Booth> i walked one to make it more efficient
02:07:04  <[1]Booth> i think it took up 4 /10 tiles covered in screeny 1
02:07:21  <De_Ghost> what's ur platform rating?
02:07:27  <De_Ghost> it looks very slow
02:07:40  <De_Ghost> cuz i remember when u put a platform in the city with 2side buildings
02:07:46  <De_Ghost> u need 2 platform min
02:07:56  <De_Ghost> so that 1 is constantly loading
02:08:15  <[1]Booth> 2 seperate station side by side
02:08:16  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> toget rid of all the pax
02:08:47  <De_Ghost> well since ur station walking i donno
02:08:53  <[1]Booth> well these are thing me and mark worked on last big self reg pax game
02:08:54  <De_Ghost> i have to open the game to see
02:09:09  <[1]Booth> and these were the best examples
02:09:24  <[1]Booth> gosht turn off all grfs and open game
02:09:30  <[1]Booth> it will open in pause mode
02:09:32  <De_Ghost> my idea of self reg is
02:09:41  <De_Ghost> make a common thingy
02:09:47  <De_Ghost> and jsut dump trains into it
02:09:52  <De_Ghost> and it automatic everything
02:09:53  <De_Ghost> :d
02:10:04  <De_Ghost> kinda like trotting
02:10:10  <[1]Booth> that just doesnt work
02:10:16  <[1]Booth> trotting will jam
02:10:18  <De_Ghost> not yet
02:10:21  <[1]Booth> at drop stations
02:10:22  <De_Ghost> will it?
02:10:26  <[1]Booth> when it gets busy
02:10:41  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> it acually won't
02:10:48  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> it have more drop platform then pickup
02:11:07  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> and the max is
02:11:13  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> 3 platform per line
02:11:24  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> long signal gaps
02:11:30  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> on bridges
02:11:35  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and station entrances
02:11:39  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> what bridge?
02:12:25  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> torrering has allready jamed
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02:12:53  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> where?
02:12:58  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> entrance to picup?
02:13:00  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> at s1
02:13:09  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and centre area is to small
02:13:14  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> it's SRNW without an overflow is the problem
02:13:26  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> sign
02:13:28  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> it
02:13:32  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ZD has got it
02:13:48  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> check !needs overflow
02:14:00  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> no it doesn't
02:14:01  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> at entrance to S1
02:14:04  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> look at the order
02:14:04  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yes it does
02:14:11  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> otherwise it isnt SRNW
02:14:23  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> I couln't build one of these at all with my current skill level, but that's waht i see as the problem..
02:14:43  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> needs an overflow
02:14:46  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> to stop jams
02:14:49  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> it doesn't need over flow
02:14:49  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> without the overflow, it isn't really SR.. just automatic
02:14:58  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> it doesn't matter if it's jam
02:15:01  <PublicServer> <davis> going to sleep , gn =)
02:15:07  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> night davis
02:15:08  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> it does otherwise it isnt self reg
02:15:17  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> nn davis
02:15:18  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> u can look at that jam as a queue for alll 4 platform
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02:15:31  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but it isnt self reg
02:15:37  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> self reg doesnt wue
02:15:40  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> que
02:15:51  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> it just runs until it can find a platfrom
02:15:52  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> ur def includes train driving in circle doing nothing
02:16:05  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> i think trott is a good design
02:16:20  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> it may be an average design
02:16:21  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> i mean better* imo*
02:16:24  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but it isnt self reg
02:16:32  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> not better
02:16:43  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> over all it is
02:16:44  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> as you cant tune the amount of trains needed
02:16:51  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> why not
02:16:56  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> u just clone or dispose
02:16:57  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> we tryed in 118 best layouts
02:16:58  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> as needed
02:17:05  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> a good self-reg will almost tune itself.. or will, given trains in a depot
02:17:07  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and option1 and 2 turned out best
02:17:21  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> as it is now, you can't dispose
02:17:30  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> and the point of self reg is.. self reg
02:17:31  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> but it's slow and inefficent
02:17:32  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> set it and forget it
02:17:42  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> u can
02:17:43  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no they are not
02:17:46  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> for this
02:18:02  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> goshty get 118 to run
02:18:09  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and check them out
02:18:09  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> lol
02:18:12  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> or talk to mark
02:18:20  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> he know all about pax self reg
02:18:42  <De_Ghost> still crash
02:18:43  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but imo tett is never going to work
02:18:43  <De_Ghost> :o
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02:18:57  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> it's working now
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02:21:09  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> :o i got a new inspiration
02:21:19  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> let's c
02:22:05  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> Right, it's getting late-ish here, I'mma finish this tomorrow if i get the chance.. feel free to screw around with it
02:22:16  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> demolish everything!!!!!!!!!!!!
02:22:17  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> lol
02:22:19  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> j/k
02:22:23  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> lol
02:22:36  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> Kupu, if you want to join the game and do something feel free..
02:22:46  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> I'll stay conned for you guys if he doesn't...
02:22:59  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> there is only me left
02:23:05  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Nah, it's late here, and I don't think here's much I could do
02:23:10  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> Kupuham is observing..
02:23:24  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> well, i can stay conned or not
02:23:39  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> *conned
02:25:27  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> give me a min
02:25:31  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> juse need to test something
02:33:01  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> :o
02:33:05  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> ok
02:33:13  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> i have  finished my planzor
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02:37:37  <ZarenorDarkstalker> okay, i'm just killing openTTd then.. have a good night
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05:01:38  <PublicServer> Sol2: behold
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07:38:13  <Thijs> !password
07:38:13  <PublicServer> Thijs: homely
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07:38:36  <PublicServer> <Thijs> good morning
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08:37:49  <Mark> morning
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08:38:33  <Mark> !password
08:38:33  <PublicServer> Mark: stride
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08:54:08  <PublicServer> <Thijs> morning
08:54:18  <PublicServer> <Mark> morning
08:55:53  <PublicServer> <Thijs> i love the magic bulldozer
08:56:07  <PublicServer> <Mark> heh
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08:58:55  <Godde> !playercount
08:58:55  <PublicServer> Godde: Number of players: 2
08:59:00  <Godde> mornin
08:59:09  <Godde> !password
08:59:09  <PublicServer> Godde: loaves
08:59:14  <PublicServer> <Thijs> godde morning
08:59:25  <PublicServer> <Mark> morning
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09:05:14  <PublicServer> <Mark> i must admti your sbahns are easier to build
09:05:25  <PublicServer> <Thijs> than yours?
09:05:30  <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah
09:05:39  <PublicServer> <Thijs> hehe
09:05:50  <PublicServer> <Thijs> wanna help?
09:05:51  <PublicServer> <Mark> mine gave 5 people a headache
09:05:53  <^Spike^> !password
09:05:53  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: loaves
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09:06:16  <PublicServer> <Thijs> :)
09:06:17  <PublicServer> <Mark> k i'll throw in some
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09:09:22  <PublicServer> <Mark> is that right?
09:09:37  <PublicServer> <Thijs> ehm
09:09:46  <PublicServer> <Thijs> no
09:10:01  <PublicServer> <Thijs> only the middle three parts need double loops
09:10:36  <PublicServer> <Mark> oh i see
09:11:10  <PublicServer> <Thijs> this should be it
09:11:31  <PublicServer> <Thijs> and then it's one station every ten squares
09:12:01  <PublicServer> <Thijs> great
09:12:59  <PublicServer> <Mark> you've hit your ICE station spread limit
09:13:21  <PublicServer> <Thijs> hm where?
09:13:44  <PublicServer> <Mark> the one ICE you have
09:13:47  <PublicServer> <Thijs> you mean lower trottingbridge?
09:13:47  <PublicServer> <Mark> well
09:13:52  <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah
09:13:55  <PublicServer> <Thijs> i didn't build that
09:14:06  <PublicServer> <Thijs> but more loops could be combined to plaforms
09:14:14  <PublicServer> <Thijs> should be possible
09:14:17  <PublicServer> <Mark> k
09:14:32  <PublicServer> <Thijs> maybe we can llok at that now
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09:14:40  <PublicServer> <Thijs> in stead of robo building
09:15:12  <PublicServer> <Mark> i'll robo build some and have coffee after that
09:15:22  <PublicServer> <Thijs> haha
09:15:30  <PublicServer> <Thijs> coffee, what a good idea
09:15:33  <PublicServer> <Thijs> brb
09:15:38  <PublicServer> <Mark> :)
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09:19:54  <PublicServer> <Thijs> hmm
09:20:23  <PublicServer> <Thijs> all loops are alternating left/right
09:20:34  <PublicServer> <Thijs> would of liked it the other way
09:20:41  <PublicServer> <Mark> oh ak
09:20:53  <PublicServer> <Thijs> so it's for lanes to north, etc
09:21:04  <PublicServer> <Thijs> then we have more room for improvements
09:21:15  <PublicServer> <Thijs> let's get rid of all trains
09:21:25  <PublicServer> <Thijs> make a proper transfer station first
09:21:34  <PublicServer> <Mark> first coffee
09:21:40  <PublicServer> <Thijs> yes, i have mine
09:21:45  <PublicServer> <Thijs> just made it
09:22:13  <PublicServer> <Thijs> i will do this the ugly way
09:22:20  <PublicServer> <Thijs> big train crash
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09:36:41  <PublicServer> <Thijs> mark, you there?
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09:52:03  <Godde> !tunnels 6 30
09:52:03  <PublicServer> Godde: You need 4 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 6 and gap 30.
09:52:24  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> heha
09:52:27  <PublicServer> <Thijs> hi
09:52:56  <Godde> !tunnels 6 14
09:52:56  <PublicServer> Godde: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 6 and gap 14.
09:53:05  <Godde> !tunnels 6 16
09:53:05  <PublicServer> Godde: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 6 and gap 16.
09:54:15  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> Thijs: do you still need the plans at Windybridge?
09:54:22  <PublicServer> <Thijs> nope
09:54:25  <PublicServer> <Thijs> remove em
09:57:31  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> strange guy moved the voting board :-)
09:57:57  <PublicServer> <Thijs> moved or removed?
09:58:00  <PublicServer> <Thijs> where is it
09:58:05  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> mvoed
09:58:11  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I removed it right now :-)
09:58:53  <PublicServer> <Thijs> i have to go
09:59:21  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> your city has still only one station
09:59:32  <PublicServer> <Thijs> yes it does
09:59:37  <PublicServer> <Thijs> it's not done yet
09:59:46  <PublicServer> <Thijs> but still puzzling for this station
09:59:52  <PublicServer> <Thijs> i will go now
09:59:57  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> by
10:00:02  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> and cu :-)
10:00:24  <PublicServer> <Thijs> feel free to improve what i'm working on
10:01:04  <PublicServer> <Thijs> bye
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10:16:49  <hypervillain> !download win64
10:16:49  <PublicServer> hypervillain:
10:26:19  <hypervillain> !password
10:26:19  <PublicServer> hypervillain: revere
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10:30:04  <mensi> !playercount
10:30:04  <PublicServer> mensi: Number of players: 4
10:30:07  <mensi> !password
10:30:07  <PublicServer> mensi: revere
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10:31:17  <mensi> hmm
10:31:38  <mensi> Thijs didn't like my transfer stations :(
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10:53:13  <PublicServer> <Mark> one sbahn drop left
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10:54:49  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> :-)
10:55:15  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I just built the drop for that circle
10:55:41  <PublicServer> <Mark> what circle?
10:55:46  <PublicServer> <Mark> oh that
10:55:49  <mensi> I thought there were 2 circles
10:55:53  <mensi> und drop W, one N
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10:55:57  <PublicServer> <Mark> LABEL IT :P
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10:56:36  <mensi> the quadrants in SLGS are double loops, aren't they?
10:56:48  <PublicServer> <Mark> that they are
10:56:48  <mensi> or did you terminate both loops at the SW drop?
10:57:05  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> each ring has one transfer station
10:57:55  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> didn't you see there is already a quadrant connected to that station?
10:59:38  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> did you remove the plan?
11:01:10  <davis`> !password
11:01:10  <PublicServer> davis`: hiatus
11:01:23  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> well, maybe, I am wrong?
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11:03:03  <PublicServer> <Mark> done already
11:03:22  <PublicServer> <Mark> was just getting the hang of that style :P
11:04:08  <PublicServer> <Mark> i think i'll trpy covering my entire square with town
11:04:17  <PublicServer> <Mark> should look sweet
11:05:17  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> you have a very unbalanced map
11:05:38  <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah
11:05:51  <PublicServer> <Mark> should fix itsolf though
11:08:10  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> your city is overserviced like Sliggleswellwill be underserviced.
11:08:21  <PublicServer> <Mark> true
11:08:29  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> you could easy trash half of your stations
11:08:37  <PublicServer> <Mark> yep :D
11:08:42  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> :-)
11:09:01  <PublicServer> <Mark> i love the layout though
11:09:55  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> but the town looks better that way
11:10:02  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> not that crowded
11:10:46  <Godde> !password
11:10:46  <PublicServer> Godde: rivets
11:10:48  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> south west is a bit for growing, else it is done :-)
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11:18:32  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I remove again some full load orders
11:21:15  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> ICEs have no shared orders
11:21:33  <mensi> whoops? thought I had held ctrl
11:21:42  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> send them to deopt
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11:30:39  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> is there a service center?
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11:41:32  <PublicServer> <^Sp1ke^> crash...
11:42:35  <PublicServer> <^Sp1ke^> kill the mayor? :)
11:52:53  <Godde> is there a patch or something that allows me to copy (for example) a junction...?
11:53:05  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> dunno.
11:53:17  <Godde> i think i saw something somewhere, but cant find it
11:53:43  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> maybe in the forums
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11:53:48  <KenjiE20> copy&paste patch
11:54:15  <KenjiE20> people keep asking for trunking, but I doubt it actually will merge, personally
11:54:35  <Godde> i dont really see a reason not to trunk it..?
11:55:19  <Ammler> ugly code is the main reason, afaik
11:55:34  <Ammler> not mp safe the other.
11:55:41  <Godde> where do i put the .diff file...?
11:56:04  <Ammler> @man compiling
11:56:05  <Cooper>
11:56:20  <Godde> thanks :) - sorry for being newbish :P
11:56:56  <Ammler> everyone is a newbie
11:56:58  <KenjiE20> rolling your own OTTD isn't really newbish tbh :)
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12:01:20  <Godde> im not saying im a noob at computers in general, but im a noob at googling and ottd :P
12:01:43  <Ammler> noob != newbie
12:02:14  <KenjiE20> ^
12:02:29  <Ammler> I hope you won't be a noob
12:03:12  <PublicServer> <Mark> back
12:03:24  <PublicServer> <davis> wb
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12:03:41  <Mark> Godde: there is a copy laste patch
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12:03:45  <Mark> paste
12:04:04  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> really boring stations
12:04:13  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> every transfer station looks the same
12:04:19  <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah
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12:04:32  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> kinda ugly.
12:04:57  <PublicServer> <Mark> is 34K the max amount of pax at a station?
12:05:09  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> except mine, which is bad., either ;-)
12:05:17  <PublicServer> <Mark> heh
12:05:22  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> 32k is the limit.
12:05:41  <PublicServer> <Mark> see RW ICE 1
12:05:56  <PublicServer> <Mark> or 3 or 4 for that mattor
12:06:00  <PublicServer> <Mark> matter
12:06:04  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> 4k or something is a "soft" limit
12:06:10  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> and 32 is the hard
12:06:13  <PublicServer> <Mark> right
12:06:28  <Ammler> @calc 32*1024
12:06:28  <Cooper> Ammler: 32768
12:06:45  <Ammler> dunno, the exact number ;-)
12:06:49  <Ammler> something around 32k
12:07:11  <PublicServer> <Kenji> rofl 267
12:07:32  <PublicServer> <Mark> :P
12:07:50  <PublicServer> <Kenji> also, why are swathes of ML unsignalled Still
12:07:57  <mensi> RW ICE 4 done
12:08:13  <PublicServer> <Mark> nice
12:08:38  <PublicServer> <Mark> those etrios are a bit long?
12:08:45  <PublicServer> <Mark> entries
12:09:16  <mensi> ~12 tiles
12:09:55  <mensi> I tried to keep everything at 12 tiles or above, same for the other partiel split
12:10:23  <mensi> partial
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12:12:01  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> Mark: I rename your ICE Stations, so you can practice directions ;-)
12:12:14  <PublicServer> <Mark> k :P
12:12:20  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> and names are better then numbers :-)
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12:12:44  <phatmatt> !password
12:12:44  <PublicServer> phatmatt: glided
12:13:16  <mensi> hmm
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12:13:31  <PublicServer> <Kenji> trains 156,166&191 are lost and have no route
12:13:32  <mensi> I get kinda disoriented if I stretch openttd over both screens
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12:14:06  <mensi> 2*24" ;)
12:14:20  <PublicServer> <davis> lol
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12:14:44  <PublicServer> <davis> 1*22 and 1*19 for me
12:15:00  <PublicServer> <Mark> 1*17, plenty
12:15:06  <PublicServer> <Mark> 19 even
12:15:20  <PublicServer> <davis> i doubt i could "work" with a 17" one anymore
12:15:39  <mensi> same here
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12:15:48  <PublicServer> <Kenji> 1x17" as default, 2x17" if I need extra real estate
12:15:52  <mensi> can't work singleheaded
12:16:06  <PublicServer> <davis> i feel kinda restricted without a second screen
12:16:07  <mensi> but 2*19 is fine too
12:16:08  <PublicServer> <davis> haha
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12:17:06  <mensi> does anybody know why Thijs rebuilt my transfers?
12:17:14  <PublicServer> <Kenji> currently have my usual 6 windows open atm
12:17:27  <PublicServer> <Kenji> have no problems on one screen atm
12:17:32  <PublicServer> <Mark> mensi: they were too big
12:17:45  <PublicServer> <Mark> he hit station spread limit
12:17:58  <mensi> ah hehe ;)
12:19:36  <PublicServer> <Kenji> what happened to the skyscraper bank in rumble?
12:19:52  <PublicServer> <Mark> blew it up
12:19:57  <PublicServer> <Mark> all 7 of them
12:20:12  <PublicServer> <Kenji> lols
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12:24:13  <PublicServer> <Mark> another ugly ice done
12:24:13  <Godde> !download source
12:24:13  <PublicServer> Godde: unknown option "source"
12:24:21  <Godde> !download
12:24:21  <PublicServer> Godde: !download autostart|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x
12:24:23  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> :-)
12:24:24  <PublicServer> <Mark> one left and i can sloop again
12:24:29  <PublicServer> <Mark> sleep
12:24:44  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> there are 3 other towns
12:24:52  <Godde> how do i get the sourcecode for the version at the public serveR?
12:25:19  <Ammler> Godde: copy paste isn't allowed on our server
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12:25:31  <PublicServer> <Kenji> pretty sure its on that page ammler linked though
12:25:32  <Godde> i know, thats why im gonna use it for my singleplayer games :P
12:26:50  <mensi> somebody feeling like building an ICE station
12:26:56  <Ammler> then use the source the patch is for.
12:26:58  <mensi> I built 6 and can't see them anymore ;)
12:27:18  <Ammler> mensi: try to build an other type
12:27:30  <Ammler> ;-)
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12:30:50  <PublicServer> <Mark> there
12:30:53  <PublicServer> <Mark> DONE
12:31:09  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> a quarter is done :P
12:31:16  <PublicServer> <Mark> meh :P
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12:32:15  <PublicServer> <Mark> moving only 40% at Rumblewell so far
12:32:22  <PublicServer> <Mark> i want 70
12:32:34  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> 100%!
12:32:39  <PublicServer> <Mark> :P
12:32:57  <PublicServer> <Mark> you get 100% you get a cookie
12:33:14  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> well
12:33:30  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> on your city it is possible, isn't?
12:33:36  <PublicServer> <Mark> no
12:33:49  <PublicServer> <Mark> the middle lanes arent covered
12:34:09  <PublicServer> <Mark> i screwed up at the start
12:34:11  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> some dedicated bustops would do that
12:34:21  <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah
12:34:37  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I made a example with S1Wq
12:34:38  <PublicServer> <Mark> would also look nice
12:34:42  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> S1W1
12:35:06  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> or do you mean, real buses/trams?
12:35:09  <PublicServer> <Mark> oh
12:35:12  <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah i did
12:35:19  <PublicServer> <Mark> you mean walking?
12:35:37  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I meant what I did ;-)
12:35:54  <PublicServer> <Mark> i see
12:36:12  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> as you stations are oversized
12:36:17  <PublicServer> <Mark> :P
12:36:23  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> station walk is easy handleable
12:38:21  <PublicServer> <Mark> i'll fill up the rest of my square
12:39:59  <Godde> patching ottd is a frikkin nightmare xD
12:40:21  <Ammler> which compiler do you use?
12:40:37  <Ammler> and patch tool?
12:41:22  <Godde> the site you linked told me to use tortoisesvn... i've been fiddling around with it for some time now, but when i try to apply the patch, it fails to fetch the proper revision
12:41:58  <Ammler> mingw is the easiest
12:42:06  <KenjiE20> did you set up a directory for it to d/l to?
12:42:21  <Ammler>
12:42:30  <Godde> i'll try that one then xD
12:44:30  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> omg, you really are going to do it
12:44:35  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> but also serviced?
12:44:40  <PublicServer> <Mark> nah
12:44:45  <PublicServer> <Mark> that'd be a mess
12:44:46  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> or just cpu waster?
12:44:50  <PublicServer> <Mark> ep
12:44:52  <PublicServer> <Mark> yep
12:45:21  <mensi> I compiled openttd without hassle with visual studio
12:45:33  <Ammler> congratulations
12:45:43  <Godde> you said mingw is the easiest..? O.o it looks alot harder than tortoise xD
12:45:55  <mensi> tortoise is an svn client
12:45:58  <mensi> mingw a compiler
12:46:20  <Ammler> mingw is a bit more
12:47:10  <Godde> bah, i'll give it a try...
12:47:23  <mensi> ya alright it is a bit more ;)
12:48:57  <Ammler> there are some patches around, which tourtoise can't handle
12:49:34  <mensi> ah
12:49:38  <Ammler> with mingw, you have all the nice tools, which we use on linux, too.
12:49:41  <mensi> wouldn't do patching with tortoise anyways ;)
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12:50:40  <Ammler> but openttd wiki should also have a manual for visual studio, so you can chose :P
12:52:43  <Ammler> and with mensi, you get personal support ;-)
12:52:54  <mensi> gotta go, cu ;)
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12:53:09  <mensi> nah eh worked pretty well with the provided project files
12:55:47  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I already need 45% of my cpu for this game
12:56:22  <PublicServer> <davis> lol
12:56:23  <PublicServer> <davis> s like
12:56:25  <PublicServer> <davis> its like
12:56:30  <PublicServer> <davis> 2% for me
12:56:44  <PublicServer> <Mark> try zooming out
12:56:45  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> zoom out over Rumblewell
12:56:48  <PublicServer> <davis> 25
12:56:58  <PublicServer> <davis> thats still alright
12:57:10  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> 80 here
12:57:11  <PublicServer> <davis> been worse before i had the 64bit build i believe
12:57:12  <KenjiE20> that's 100% on that c2q of yours then
12:57:36  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> (of one core)
12:57:46  <PublicServer> <davis> yuh
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13:08:16  <Godde> mingw is difficult :P
13:09:03  <Ammler> if you follow step by step the wiki, it should be easy
13:09:11  <Ammler> bottd would also install it
13:09:56  <Godde> im stuck at the step called: Compiling wget
13:10:06  <Godde> 3. Make sure you are in the same directory where you placed the file and Run:
13:10:17  <Godde> how do i make sure im in the right directory?
13:10:35  <Ammler> pwd
13:10:44  <Ammler> well
13:10:49  <Ammler> dunno, what you mean
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13:11:17  <Ammler> ah
13:11:20  <Godde> i gotta use the program called MSYS to compile something - the site tells me to make sure im in the same directory... wth?
13:11:44  <Ammler> in the same directory as the wget archive
13:11:51  <ropiku> !passwor
13:11:51  <Ammler> thats all
13:11:54  <ropiku> !password
13:11:54  <PublicServer> ropiku: callus
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13:12:08  <Godde> yeah, but [what]  in the same directory as the wget archive?
13:12:33  <Godde> if i try to run the commands in msys, nothing happens
13:13:15  <Ammler> where the tar is saved
13:13:26  <Ammler> type ls
13:13:37  <Ammler> and you see the files where you are
13:13:51  <Godde> eh...? huh?
13:14:26  <Ammler> what happens with ls?
13:14:34  <Godde> when i type it in msys?
13:16:09  <Godde> where do i type ls?
13:16:30  <Ammler> where else?
13:16:53  <Godde> how can i type ls in the folder where the tar is?
13:17:18  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> did you start MSYS?
13:17:22  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> it is a console
13:17:29  <Godde> i know ^^
13:18:03  <Godde> when i type ls in msys, nothing happens
13:18:17  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> where do you type msys?
13:18:46  <Godde> where did i -type- msys...?
13:18:46  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> you just doubleclick it, don't you?
13:18:54  <Godde> yes, i do
13:19:04  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> well that is how I started tools in windows
13:19:17  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> then a console opens, does it?
13:19:24  <Godde> yes
13:19:44  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> then you type "ls"
13:19:47  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> to that console
13:19:54  <Godde> returns nothing
13:20:03  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> "pwd"?
13:20:26  <Godde> home/Godde Goddesen
13:20:38  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> then there is nothing there
13:20:48  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> where did you save the wget?
13:20:59  <Godde> C:\OTTDCOMPILE\wget-1.9.1-mingwPORT
13:21:23  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> you should move it to the mingw home
13:21:33  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> or you "cd" to that directory
13:22:06  <Godde> mingw home is the installation directory?
13:22:16  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> no
13:22:32  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> the location you get when you start msys
13:22:41  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> /home/something
13:23:04  <Godde> i dont have any folders called home, afaik
13:23:08  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> that is somewheere in your mingw installation
13:23:53  <Godde> it was in my msys directory
13:24:52  <Godde> ls now returns the file name :)
13:24:57  <Godde> time to run the commands?
13:25:13  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> guess so :-)
13:25:24  <Godde> yaay
13:25:26  <Godde> thanks
13:25:31  <Godde> will shout if i need help again
13:25:50  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> ok
13:28:52  <Godde> ./ /home/Godde: No such file or directory
13:29:22  <Ammler> ls?
13:30:04  <Godde> mingwPORT.README          mingwPORT.configure  mingwPORT.patch
13:30:04  <Godde> mingwPORT.afterconfigure  mingwPORT.exports    mingwPORT.question
13:30:04  <Godde> mingwPORT.afterquestion   mingwPORT.functions
13:30:04  <Godde> mingwPORT.beforepatch     mingwPORT.ini        wget.exe
13:30:05  <Godde> mingwPORT.beforerpatch    mingwPORT.install
13:30:05  <Godde> mingwPORT.cleanup         mingwPORT.make
13:30:12  <PublicServer> <Mark> :)
13:30:15  <Ammler> don't paste here
13:30:21  <Godde> ouch :)
13:30:28  <Ammler> use os such
13:30:31  <Godde> didnt know it would spam like that
13:32:27  <Godde> ....?
13:33:30  <Ammler> dunno, what that script does
13:33:44  <Ammler> but somehow it misses your home dir
13:33:56  <Ammler> "cd /home && ls"
13:35:20  <PublicServer> <Mark> all BBHs do 3+3 > 2+2 > 4
13:35:25  <PublicServer> <Mark> ugly
13:35:44  <Godde> ls now returns Godde Goddesen
13:35:59  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> what does my bbh?
13:36:15  <PublicServer> <Mark> yours is a split
13:36:22  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I have 2
13:36:24  <PublicServer> <Mark> oh
13:36:47  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> :P
13:36:56  <PublicServer> <Mark> seems good
13:37:06  <PublicServer> <Mark> looked too fast i guess
13:37:07  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> well, it is from me ;-)
13:37:26  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> and it was a fast one
13:37:39  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> no every line is balanced to every exit
13:38:56  <Godde> AmmIer: ls now returns Godde Goddesen
13:39:22  <Ammler> Godde: that is the issue
13:39:36  <Ammler> mkdir -p /home/godde
13:39:39  <Ammler> mkdir -p /home/Godde
13:39:55  <Ammler> silly windows using spaces in nickname
13:40:14  <Ammler> username*
13:41:04  <Godde> the tar is now in godde
13:41:21  <Ammler> not the tar
13:41:26  <Ammler> you have that already
13:41:38  <Ammler> the script should work now
13:42:15  <Godde> k, trying agian
13:42:18  <Godde> again
13:42:22  <Godde> again* damnit
13:42:40  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> run the script again
13:42:48  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> in the location there
13:45:33  <Godde> wow
13:45:35  <Godde> it works xD
14:04:52  <Godde> okay, i know how to compile ottd now - but how do i apply a custom patch?
14:05:25  <Ammler> @man patch
14:05:27  <Cooper>
14:05:50  <Ammler> tt-forums thread
14:06:09  <Ammler> cd openttd/src
14:06:15  <Ammler> mäh
14:06:18  <Ammler> not to src
14:06:28  <Ammler> just in the root of the openttd source
14:06:39  <Ammler> patch -p0 < yourpatch.diff
14:07:58  <Godde> xD why cant someone make a program that does all this for you...? *sigh*
14:08:14  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> there is one: BOTTD
14:08:17  <ropiku> it's not that hard
14:08:28  <Godde> its pretty fking time consuming xD
14:09:10  <Ammler> well, until you are familiar with
14:09:34  <Godde> i really hope i dont have to do all those commands again for evry time i wanna try out a patch...
14:13:14  <Godde> so i do cd ~/openttd/src and then patch -p0 < copypaste-r14952 ?
14:13:22  <PublicServer> <ropiku> Half of RWL South has entry signals, half doesn't. Should I add them ?
14:13:47  <Ammler> not to src
14:13:55  <Ammler> [16:06] <Ammler> not to src
14:13:57  <Ammler> [16:06] <Ammler> just in the root of the openttd source
14:14:18  <Godde> k
14:14:45  <Ammler> and you have the right source?
14:14:58  <Godde> i have no idea
14:15:05  <Ammler> did you use svn for checkout?
14:15:25  <Godde> ?
14:16:03  <Ammler> how did you download the source?
14:16:27  <Godde> with msys?
14:16:52  <Ammler> try "svn co svn://"
14:17:08  <Ammler> then svn up -r14952
14:17:37  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> so you can change the revision quite easy
14:18:24  <ropiku> you can directly say "svn co -r14952 svn://" then svn up to update/change revision
14:18:39  <Ammler> yes
14:18:49  <Ammler> I tried to show the up command too
14:18:49  <mensi> oh crap
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14:19:53  <PublicServer> <ropiku> Can I signal Windybridge North ?
14:20:14  <PublicServer> * davis shrugs
14:20:34  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> why do you ask that?
14:20:51  <PublicServer> <ropiku> because I don't want to do anything that I should not :D
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14:22:02  <mensi> any comments on Trottingbridge ICE East?
14:22:12  <Godde> the site u linked tells me to write "make" to get the ottd.exe file - but nothing happens..?
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14:22:25  <Sol2> !password
14:22:25  <PublicServer> Sol2: tapers
14:22:41  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I hope it doesn't look like all others ;-)
14:23:15  <Ammler> which site?
14:23:25  <mensi> the SBahn transfer part
14:23:29  <Ammler> I don't visit the sites self, which I link to
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14:23:37  <Ammler> I even don0t know, if they exist
14:23:40  <mensi> I had something similar down at the south end but Thijs removed it
14:24:52  <mensi> wtf? who just blew away that station?
14:25:03  <mensi> it didn't habe any trains because it was disabled
14:25:15  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> tneo didn't signal his hub
14:25:17  <PublicServer> <davis> i didnt do nothing :P
14:26:55  <PublicServer> <^Sp1ke^> Sliggleswell North has a jam
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14:27:44  <Sol2> lol
14:27:45  <Sol2> omg
14:27:56  <PublicServer> <Mark> do people feel theyre too good for signalling or something?
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14:28:22  <PublicServer> <^Sp1ke^> not me.. seems last game i liked to signal :)
14:28:47  <PublicServer> <Mark> im pretty sure ill win that one this game
14:29:22  <PublicServer> <Mark> signalled the entire Rumblewell area + ML + ICEs
14:30:04  <Ammler> CmdLevelLand         phatmatt  date:2160-02-07  tile:0001A37A  p1:0001B985 p2:00000000 text: price:8154
14:30:12  <Ammler> hehe
14:31:47  <PublicServer> <ropiku> trains are getting lost at  RWL and just keep circling
14:32:16  <PublicServer> <Mark> im adding trains at the central depot
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14:37:45  <PublicServer> <Mark> connected all Rumblewell sbahns to the outer loop
14:37:58  <PublicServer> <Mark> should fix any problems
14:38:37  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I changed a bit of tneos hub
14:38:45  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> removed some slow downs
14:38:54  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I hope, he don'tmind
14:39:08  <PublicServer> <Mark> i doubt it
14:41:32  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> did you add that mixer?
14:41:39  <PublicServer> <Mark> no
14:41:56  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> mäh
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14:44:16  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> how wasn't I able not to see that
14:45:05  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> damn stupid me
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14:45:25  <avdg> hi
14:46:21  <avdg> !playercount
14:46:22  <PublicServer> avdg: Number of players: 6
14:46:38  <avdg> !players
14:46:40  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 201 (Orange) is mensi, in company 1 (Metropolis)
14:46:40  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 192 (Orange) is Mark, in company 1 (Metropolis)
14:46:40  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 197 (Orange) is AmmIer, in company 1 (Metropolis)
14:46:40  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 196 (Orange) is ^Sp1ke^, in company 1 (Metropolis)
14:46:40  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 205 (Orange) is davis, in company 1 (Metropolis)
14:46:42  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 217 is phatmatt, a spectator
14:47:04  <avdg> !password
14:47:04  <PublicServer> avdg: depose
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14:50:37  <PublicServer> <avdg> good job mark
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14:50:50  <Godde> !download win32
14:50:50  <PublicServer> Godde:
14:51:20  <PublicServer> <avdg> hmmm.... should i add trains where neccesary?
14:51:30  <PublicServer> <avdg> rwl N1E1
14:52:25  <avdg> test
14:52:33  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> hehe
14:52:42  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol, i have some stopid kids here
14:52:51  <PublicServer> <avdg> demonstrating the chatsystem
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14:59:04  <PublicServer> <avdg> brb
14:59:19  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> did you group the trains?
14:59:49  <PublicServer> <Mark> i did partially
15:00:49  <PublicServer> <avdg> oh i will try
15:01:33  <PublicServer> <avdg> hmmm
15:01:45  <PublicServer> <avdg> seems a bit complex :p
15:01:54  <Booth> !password
15:01:54  <PublicServer> Booth: tanner
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15:03:04  <PublicServer> <avdg> what with train 12 ->23?
15:03:29  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> wem i dnot know
15:03:36  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i only just joined
15:03:57  <PublicServer> <avdg> me too...
15:04:05  <PublicServer> <avdg> i missed the progress
15:04:18  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> whats with windy bridge
15:04:19  <PublicServer> <avdg> and mark was doing his magic again :)
15:04:28  <PublicServer> <Mark> :P
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15:04:51  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i have to say mark i do like rumblewell
15:04:58  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but other towns are not so great
15:05:01  <PublicServer> <Mark> thank you
15:05:10  <PublicServer> <Mark> biggest overkill ever
15:05:20  <PublicServer> <avdg> almost all his citys under his command are great
15:05:23  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> how do you group all with same order?
15:05:29  <PublicServer> <Mark> i like Thijs's sbahn
15:05:34  <PublicServer> <avdg> but all citys are at least better then us :)
15:05:37  <ODM> add shared vehicles ammler
15:05:47  <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah that
15:05:56  <ODM> its under the replace thingy
15:06:15  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> ah, found, THANKS
15:06:18  <PublicServer> <avdg> what was the growth start year?
15:06:29  <PublicServer> <Mark> dunno
15:06:38  <PublicServer> <Mark> 2100 probably
15:07:01  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol?
15:07:38  <PublicServer> <Mark> lol?
15:07:48  <PublicServer> <avdg> such a big city
15:08:03  <PublicServer> <Mark> it was that big after 20 years
15:08:05  <PublicServer> <avdg> but this architecture looks like the ram-memory :)
15:08:32  <PublicServer> <Mark> it takes too much space
15:08:50  <PublicServer> <avdg> yeah, but thats with almost all plans
15:09:11  <PublicServer> <avdg> if we founded a good plan, we should use that plan already...
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15:09:22  <PublicServer> <avdg> except stationwalks :)
15:10:09  <PublicServer> <avdg> even with a very well depo system :)
15:10:14  <PublicServer> <avdg> didnt notice that
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15:11:42  <PublicServer> <avdg> what is that with the notgate?
15:11:53  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> timer?
15:11:56  <PublicServer> <Mark> where?
15:12:04  <PublicServer> <avdg> 'this is a fat not gate'
15:13:12  <PublicServer> <avdg> i had again an other plan about notgates
15:13:29  <PublicServer> <avdg> but the presignaling is still a big job
15:13:44  <De_Ghost> !password
15:13:44  <PublicServer> De_Ghost: singed
15:13:59  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> do you geht shorts I used for the IC trains?
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15:14:07  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> get*
15:14:09  <PublicServer> <davis> Rumblewell is intense
15:14:12  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> the*
15:15:33  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> Rumblewell: is a parking lot
15:15:50  <PublicServer> <davis> Rumblewell looks like the cities i used to build in sim city 2000
15:16:21  <PublicServer> <Mark> CS2K was awesome
15:16:21  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> it does
15:16:31  <PublicServer> <Mark> 3K is also good
15:16:33  <PublicServer> <davis> true
15:16:40  <PublicServer> <davis> never played 4
15:16:44  <PublicServer> <Mark> i did
15:16:47  <PublicServer> <davis> how is it
15:16:57  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> SC4
15:16:59  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> is good
15:17:03  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but better once patched
15:17:08  <PublicServer> <avdg> grr..
15:17:13  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> so you can have you masstransit built in the roads
15:17:16  <PublicServer> <Mark> i like it less than 2000 and 3000
15:17:58  <PublicServer> <davis> was sim city 3k germany  a international addon?
15:18:04  <PublicServer> <davis> or just for germany? anyhow it was good.
15:18:17  <PublicServer> <Mark> i dont know it
15:18:18  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> they had a UK edition here
15:18:23  <PublicServer> <davis> ah sweet
15:18:31  <PublicServer> <Mark> i only have world edition
15:18:32  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but not roundabouts
15:18:40  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> which you do get in SC4
15:18:40  <PublicServer> <davis> guess they relead a version for any larger country
15:18:48  <PublicServer> <davis> released*
15:18:55  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> new management has arrived :o
15:19:11  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> oh dear
15:19:13  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> shitx
15:19:27  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> we are all doomed
15:19:32  <PublicServer> <Mark> i saved it
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15:20:07  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> how do u drop so fast?
15:20:21  <PublicServer> <Mark> hotkeys
15:20:26  <PublicServer> <Mark> 9 for stations
15:20:40  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> o
15:22:04  <PublicServer> <davis> lol
15:22:14  <PublicServer> <davis> demolating windybridge?
15:22:18  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> yes
15:22:22  <PublicServer> <davis> y
15:22:33  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> cuz it's not buillding
15:22:40  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> mäh
15:22:44  <PublicServer> <davis> :/
15:22:55  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I was just adding a line east-west
15:23:17  <PublicServer> <davis> rebuilding a city
15:23:18  <PublicServer> * AmmIer checking backlog
15:23:25  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> might be, you asked
15:23:54  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> no, you didnt :-(
15:24:13  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> please read the wiki about coop
15:24:19  <PublicServer> <davis> lets make it pretty. xD
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15:25:05  <PublicServer> <davis> sry
15:26:08  <PublicServer> <avdg> hmmm... 399
15:26:29  <PublicServer> <davis> Sliggleswell doesnt seam to grow either
15:26:32  <PublicServer> <davis> seem*
15:26:42  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> cuz u can't grow with more tracks then tiles
15:26:44  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> yeah, lets bulldoze it
15:26:47  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> i mean with 70% tiles
15:26:48  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> like Windybridge
15:26:57  <PublicServer> <davis> seriously? haha
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15:27:57  <PublicServer> <Mark> if it was about making the biggest city you wouldnt make an sbahn at all
15:28:06  <PublicServer> <avdg> oh ok, that train is back on the right rail
15:28:24  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> Mark: biggest serviced city
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15:30:24  <PublicServer> <avdg> does someone founded a better matrix yet?
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15:30:40  <PublicServer> <Mark> hm?
15:30:42  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> avdg: is easy to improve
15:30:44  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> enter the matrix?
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15:30:59  <PublicServer> <davis> mhm
15:31:07  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> you could remvoe every other station, e.g.
15:31:23  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> but then it wouldn't be transporting
15:31:37  <AntB> !password
15:31:37  <PublicServer> AntB: fleece
15:31:43  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> 64 tiles is big
15:31:46  <PublicServer> <avdg> 100% transportation is important :p
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15:33:04  <Mark> !trains 700
15:33:04  <PublicServer> *** Mark has set max_trains to 700
15:33:32  <PublicServer> <avdg> but howmany trains do you need to catch (64+(2*4)^2  size
15:33:43  <PublicServer> <davis> 42
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15:33:52  <PublicServer> <avdg> oh (64+(2*4))^2
15:34:43  <PublicServer> <avdg> 5184 tiles :)
15:35:11  <PublicServer> <avdg> then subtrac roadtiles
15:35:36  <PublicServer> <avdg> and the station/track tiles
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15:38:18  <PublicServer> <avdg> how can i help?
15:38:52  <PublicServer> <davis> bulldoze Sliggleswell and take the blame? :p
15:39:29  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> S2 is not buit and ready for an sbahn
15:42:27  <PublicServer> <avdg> i'll put some 'buy land' boards :)
15:42:55  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> so what is the plan in windybottom?
15:43:50  <PublicServer> <avdg> any network plans at windybridge?
15:44:23  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> yes in my head :o
15:44:34  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> going to share it with us?
15:44:49  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> kinda hard
15:44:55  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> let me build a small chunck
15:44:58  <PublicServer> <avdg> just try :p
15:45:07  <PublicServer> <Mark> just build a piece
15:45:54  <PublicServer> <avdg> oh i help i bit where i can
15:48:42  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i just noticed there are still 4 missing ML stations
15:49:51  <PublicServer> <Mark> Chris Booth: build them then
15:50:03  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i am
15:50:11  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> he is making one, don't stree him ;-)
15:50:19  <PublicServer> <Mark> De_Ghost: so far so good?
15:50:20  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> stress*
15:55:18  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> your stations faiiled with the center ;-)
15:55:33  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> whos stations?
15:55:43  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> Windybridge: s-bahn
15:55:46  <PublicServer> <Mark> theyre one square off
15:55:55  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> whats?
15:56:02  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> do yyou mean off
15:56:26  <hylje> off as in off the target
15:56:32  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> one squre to far north
15:57:06  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> sign !CENTER
15:57:09  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> i don't see it
15:57:27  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> i thought the name is the center
15:57:31  <PublicServer> <avdg> do we have a namingsystem for windybridge?
15:57:33  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> yep
15:57:43  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> but the center of the s-bahn is the sign
15:57:57  <PublicServer> <Mark> no its not
15:58:17  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> Mark: show me "your" center
15:58:20  <PublicServer> <Mark> i do
15:58:23  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> no it's the name one
15:58:25  <PublicServer> <Mark> see west
15:58:38  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> i remember when the map was layed in the begining
15:58:42  <PublicServer> <Mark> north i mean
15:59:00  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but its not the centre of teh area of land
15:59:03  <PublicServer> <Mark> south even
15:59:28  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> Mark: make a sign
15:59:38  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> De_Ghost: I mean you center ber design
15:59:56  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> he is right
16:00:07  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> its 3 square out
16:00:14  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> you carry the whole town center with only those 2 stations
16:00:29  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol
16:00:50  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> what?
16:00:54  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> i am confursed
16:01:03  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> well, nvm
16:01:10  <PublicServer> <Mark> it doesnt matter anyway
16:01:12  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> what's wrong with carrying em with 2 station
16:01:15  <PublicServer> <avdg> i am a bit to slow in typing
16:01:24  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> oh
16:01:25  <PublicServer> <Mark> im slower
16:01:28  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> i planned it like that
16:01:35  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> i know what u mean now
16:01:45  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> cuz it didn't really matter
16:01:58  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> the transfer stations aren't balanced the same
16:02:03  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> i just need to make sure stations don't block the initial cross
16:02:26  <ODM> !password
16:02:27  <PublicServer> ODM: weirdo
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16:02:41  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> you will have  a lot more pax north-south then east-west
16:03:10  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> only a bit
16:03:21  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> anyways they move to other ppl's platform
16:03:29  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> well, it isn't perefect :P
16:03:39  <PublicServer> <Mark> nothing is
16:03:44  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> your is
16:03:49  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> ;-)
16:03:57  <PublicServer> <Mark> well thanks :P
16:03:58  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> this design allows for 10% more city then mark's
16:04:21  <PublicServer> <Mark> but you move 50% less
16:04:35  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> it will also be overserviced like Marks
16:04:35  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> no i don't why?
16:04:47  <PublicServer> <Mark> we'll see
16:04:57  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> it will be over service
16:05:01  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> cuz i don't want bus
16:05:13  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> it's either over or under
16:05:20  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> there is like no inbetween land i can see
16:05:21  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> station size is 64 tiles
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16:05:31  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> that's with station walking
16:05:34  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> hmm
16:05:35  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> station walking = fail :o
16:05:41  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> no station walk
16:05:46  <PublicServer> <avdg> capture zone is 72
16:05:49  <PublicServer> *** 0DM has left the game (leaving)
16:05:49  <PublicServer> *** 0DM has left the game (connection lost)
16:05:56  <PublicServer> <avdg> or doesnt count that?
16:06:12  <AntB> !password
16:06:12  <PublicServer> AntB: weirdo
16:06:27  <PublicServer> *** Ant joined the game
16:06:30  <AntB> (¬_¬) @ password
16:06:34  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> i thought the zone is the blue mark
16:06:43  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> Chris Booth: thank you for not copying the other stations.
16:06:53  <PublicServer> <Mark> :D
16:08:02  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol?
16:08:06  <PublicServer> <Ant> wtf @ windybridge  I take it somebody disaproved lol
16:08:23  <PublicServer> <avdg> thats pretty bad :p
16:08:41  <PublicServer> <avdg> then you need to fill the gaps again :)
16:08:43  <PublicServer> <avdg> oh i see
16:08:57  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> not if u tunnel first
16:08:58  <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah forgon about that one
16:09:21  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> it is sad, you could learn from the mistakes Mark made.
16:09:45  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> which is ?
16:09:54  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> check Rumblewell
16:10:02  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> and if you need to ask again :P
16:10:26  <PublicServer> <Mark> what mistake?
16:11:22  <PublicServer> <Mark> T is for tunnel
16:11:37  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and tomatoe
16:16:27  <PublicServer> <davis> Windybridge = station madness
16:16:42  <PublicServer> <avdg> digging madness for me...
16:16:46  <PublicServer> <davis> too
16:16:47  <PublicServer> <Ant> windy bridge = wtf imo
16:16:53  <PublicServer> <davis> haha
16:16:59  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> o all the station should be counter clockwise around the center
16:17:06  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> i mean signals sohuld be counter clockwise
16:18:41  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> i mean clock wise
16:18:43  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> lol
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16:18:50  <PublicServer> <Mark> dinner
16:19:40  <PublicServer> <avdg> :) last row tunnels
16:21:36  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> hmmm mayhe should have went with a longer train
16:21:43  <PublicServer> <avdg> tunnels done
16:21:53  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> all of it?
16:22:01  <PublicServer> <avdg> not
16:22:09  <PublicServer> <avdg> just to the centre :p
16:22:29  <PublicServer> <avdg> there are some north...
16:22:37  <PublicServer> <avdg> but pls indicate how far i should go
16:23:28  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> where what?
16:23:37  <PublicServer> <avdg> how far to the border
16:23:48  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> edge of the road for now
16:24:14  <PublicServer> <avdg> ok
16:24:21  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> S2 And W4 Are NOw in PLace
16:26:31  <XeryusTC> wewt, i've got a tube amp kit :D
16:26:45  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> how many watt?
16:27:16  <XeryusTC> 90 Wrms
16:27:18  <XeryusTC> apparently
16:27:33  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> that's sexy
16:27:41  <XeryusTC> meh
16:27:47  <XeryusTC> i'm used to 4kW amps :P
16:27:55  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> lol
16:27:57  <XeryusTC> although that's for PAs, not hifi sets :P
16:28:28  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> o
16:28:33  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> i use it for my guitar
16:31:08  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ok i am going to make dinner
16:31:09  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> bbbl
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16:32:11  <PublicServer> <avdg> tunnel madness again...
16:32:25  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> brb need to make breakfast
16:32:26  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> lol
16:32:34  <PublicServer> <Ant> (0_0)
16:32:40  <Godde> !tunnels 6 14
16:32:40  <PublicServer> Godde: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 6 and gap 14.
16:33:12  <PublicServer> <avdg> i need some more tunnels :p
16:33:35  <PublicServer> <avdg> im bit bored now :p
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16:33:58  <XeryusTC> hmm, that tunnel trigger is so useless :P
16:34:04  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> it is
16:34:08  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> u can guess the tunnel
16:34:09  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> lol
16:34:12  <XeryusTC> i'd rather use 3 tunnels for that length depending on the amount of traffic
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16:34:37  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol, if you dig for the whole line, you can only put 2 tunnels instead of 3
16:34:41  <Godde> !tunnels 6 15
16:34:41  <PublicServer> Godde: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 6 and gap 15.
16:35:22  <XeryusTC> anyway, i'm off to work on my tube amp again
16:35:29  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> mäh Chris Booth broke my hub
16:36:06  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> hmm
16:36:13  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol, adding macros like in word?
16:36:40  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> copy paste patch would help :P
16:36:43  <PublicServer> <avdg> saves lot of time
16:36:56  <PublicServer> <avdg> maybe its even faster then copy paste :p
16:37:15  <PublicServer> <avdg> its only a heuge code...
16:37:21  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> yea macro would be nice
16:37:31  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> copy paste works that way
16:37:43  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> no capy and paste just copy the deisng
16:37:45  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> afaik
16:37:53  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> hmm
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16:37:55  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> i was trying to get it bu
16:38:00  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> it doesn't work with thie revision
16:38:16  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> that would be a ban
16:38:42  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> a ban?
16:38:54  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> using that patch on ps
16:39:11  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> what's wrong with that
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16:40:51  <Sol2> !password
16:40:51  <PublicServer> Sol2: awoken
16:40:55  <PublicServer> <avdg> no reason?
16:41:13  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> using c&p here?
16:41:18  <Sol2> HI Everyone
16:41:20  <Sol2> XD
16:41:20  <PublicServer> <avdg> yeah
16:41:24  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> isn't that obvious?
16:41:36  <Sol2> Ammler, KenjiE20, ODM, and others all hi XD
16:41:36  <PublicServer> <avdg> i just want to know why :)
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16:41:55  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> why would you ban it?
16:42:17  <PublicServer> <avdg> bad for competition
16:42:22  <PublicServer> <avdg> but here is non
16:42:29  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> it's not competition here :o
16:42:41  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> but cooperation
16:43:16  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> there are enough players you can ask for help
16:43:31  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol :p
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16:44:37  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> couldn't you make the tunnels longer?
16:44:51  <PublicServer> <avdg> nooo
16:44:58  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> as the trains have to wait very long anyway
16:45:28  <PublicServer> <avdg> dont ask :/
16:45:40  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> then they would wait even longer
16:45:48  <PublicServer> <avdg> you know how crazy it is to build tunnels?
16:45:57  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> hehe
16:46:41  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> i thought about longer tunnel
16:46:49  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> but then u need decel for platform
16:46:51  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> they wait at the station
16:46:56  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> space for junction
16:47:10  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> which add to the sameish
16:47:26  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> why junctions?
16:47:40  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> cuz bypass
16:47:42  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> lane
16:47:44  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol, now renaming all stations...
16:47:58  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> if u want
16:48:07  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> it doesn't really matter what they are called tho lol
16:48:22  <PublicServer> <avdg> its bit needed...
16:48:40  <PublicServer> <davis> any way to help at Windybridge?
16:48:50  <PublicServer> <avdg> renaming stations :)
16:48:55  <PublicServer> <davis> D:
16:49:03  <PublicServer> <avdg> add tunnels at the east side
16:49:03  <PublicServer> <davis> I GOTTA GO  *runs*
16:49:09  <PublicServer> <avdg> i do west
16:49:45  <PublicServer> <davis> every second square tunnels?
16:49:55  <PublicServer> <davis> eh
16:49:56  <PublicServer> <davis> hird
16:49:58  <PublicServer> <avdg> ?
16:49:59  <PublicServer> <davis> third*
16:50:06  <PublicServer> <davis> nevermind =)
16:50:13  <PublicServer> <avdg> under each crossline it passes
16:50:37  <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost)
16:50:45  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol im done
16:51:17  <PublicServer> <davis> and iam lost
16:51:19  <PublicServer> <avdg> just add the tunnels where im digging :)
16:51:46  <PublicServer> <davis> that works
16:51:58  <PublicServer> <avdg> wait...
16:52:04  <PublicServer> <davis> mkk
16:52:08  <PublicServer> <avdg> my mistake :p
16:52:33  <PublicServer> <davis> now i get it. stupid me
16:52:39  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol
16:53:27  <PublicServer> <davis> can't tell whats worse , Rumblewell or Windybridge
16:53:28  <PublicServer> <davis> stationwise
16:53:49  <PublicServer> <avdg> the managing is bit easyer that way
16:53:51  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> rumble have more tracks :o
16:54:07  <PublicServer> <avdg> only the building is bit boring, unless you use makro's and such stuff
16:54:07  <PublicServer> <davis> true
16:55:52  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> you forgot to start town growth ;-)
16:55:55  <PublicServer> <avdg> freestyle is just the oposid
16:58:03  <PublicServer> <avdg> look south east...
16:58:15  <PublicServer> <avdg> proposel for names...
16:58:19  <PublicServer> <avdg> my is bad :p
16:58:20  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> what happens with road reconstruction at Rumblewell
16:59:22  <PublicServer> <davis> idk
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16:59:48  <PublicServer> <avdg> that way?
17:00:01  <PublicServer> <avdg> maybe start north - west
17:00:08  <PublicServer> <avdg> in stead of south - west
17:01:23  <PublicServer> <davis> stupid local authority
17:01:54  <PublicServer> <avdg> start renaming :)
17:02:08  <PublicServer> *** Peter has left the game (connection lost)
17:02:56  <PublicServer> <avdg> take hexadecimal system :)
17:03:00  <PublicServer> <avdg> its just 16
17:03:12  <PublicServer> <avdg> so from 0 -9 then A to F
17:04:13  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> first train have pass windy bridge :o
17:04:18  <PublicServer> <avdg> its 16 x 12 from west to east
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17:04:28  <PeterT> !password
17:04:28  <PublicServer> PeterT: cooler
17:04:39  <PeterT> !password
17:04:39  <PublicServer> PeterT: cooler
17:04:45  <PeterT> identify
17:04:47  <PublicServer> <avdg> 6x7 north -> south
17:04:59  <Godde> !tunnels 6 3
17:04:59  <PublicServer> Godde: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 6 and gap 3.
17:05:13  <PublicServer> *** Peter joined the game
17:05:21  <PublicServer> <Peter> wow, nice
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17:06:03  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> who u talking to godde?
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17:06:25  <PublicServer> <Peter> this is a good game
17:06:28  <PublicServer> <avdg> damm...
17:06:36  <PublicServer> <avdg> must started from 0
17:06:41  <PublicServer> <Peter> really?
17:06:59  <PublicServer> <Peter> oh there are no industries?
17:08:07  <PublicServer> <Mark> back
17:08:11  <PublicServer> *** Mark has joined company #1
17:08:24  <Ammler> !password
17:08:24  <PublicServer> Ammler: cooler
17:08:41  <PublicServer> <Peter> is it against the rules to make a new company?
17:08:58  <PublicServer> <Mark> are you serious?
17:09:03  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> :-D
17:09:15  <PublicServer> *** Peter has joined spectators
17:09:19  <PublicServer> *** Peter has joined company #1
17:09:24  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> no there isn't by all means make a company lol
17:09:25  <PublicServer> <Peter> aprantley you cant
17:09:28  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> Peter: is is also against the rules to join twice
17:09:37  <PublicServer> <Peter> yes ive been told
17:09:37  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> to unpause the server.
17:09:45  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> ah ok, fine.
17:09:59  <PublicServer> <Peter> aparently i was warned twice, but....
17:10:08  <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah
17:10:15  <Godde> !tunnels 6 11
17:10:15  <PublicServer> Godde: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 6 and gap 11.
17:10:20  <PublicServer> <Mark> so dont get warned again
17:10:21  <PublicServer> <Peter> i was only told once by you
17:10:26  <PublicServer> <Peter> but whatever
17:10:30  <PublicServer> <Peter> i wont join twice
17:10:31  <PublicServer> <Peter> sorry
17:10:38  <PublicServer> <Peter> where are these rules?
17:10:39  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> well, then there won't a warning again ;-)
17:10:58  <Ammler> !rules
17:10:58  <PublicServer> Ammler:
17:11:03  <Ammler> and the whole wiki
17:11:21  <PublicServer> <Peter> ok
17:11:40  <PublicServer> <Mark> Sliggleswell needs a proper sbahn
17:12:06  <PublicServer> <Peter> when does this server start?
17:12:18  <PublicServer> <Peter> i always seem to join when there is nothing left to build
17:12:40  <Xaroth> they restart the server when it's done
17:12:42  <Xaroth> then plan
17:12:43  <Xaroth> then build
17:12:47  <Xaroth> then.. enjoy
17:12:48  <PublicServer> <Peter> when its done?
17:12:48  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> Windybridge: South is very small
17:12:48  <PublicServer> <avdg> you can help renaming windybridge stations :)
17:12:49  <Xaroth> .. then restart :)
17:12:55  <PublicServer> <Peter> when is it done?
17:13:04  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> maybe you should give that station expandable space
17:13:22  <PublicServer> <Mark> when it feels done its done
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17:13:36  <PublicServer> <Peter> so no specific time?
17:13:43  <PublicServer> <Peter> ok then
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17:14:08  <Godde> !tunnels 6 12
17:14:08  <PublicServer> Godde: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 6 and gap 12.
17:14:20  <PublicServer> <Peter> also, why do you use a nightly version for the server?
17:14:21  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> this game is done, if all cities are as big as Rumblewell
17:14:32  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> and 100% covered
17:14:41  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> lol
17:14:44  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> it's never done then
17:14:58  <PublicServer> <Peter> thats what i thought
17:15:17  <PublicServer> <Mark> should be possible
17:15:18  <PublicServer> <Peter> so two questions: why the nightly needed to play, and the password?
17:15:35  <PublicServer> <Mark> though some clients wont keep up
17:15:45  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> to ban people not accepting the rules
17:15:47  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> nightly have cool new stuff
17:15:57  <PublicServer> <Peter> whats cool in this one?
17:16:09  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> what was the last one u used?
17:16:09  <PublicServer> <Mark> Peter: cant you really think of answers yourself?
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17:16:29  <PublicServer> <avdg> less errors then the release, thats cool enough :)
17:16:40  <PublicServer> <Peter> oh i see
17:17:06  <phatmatt> i don't know if it's meant to, but the password and nightly act as idiot filters.
17:17:10  <phatmatt> you have to put effort into connecting
17:17:19  <PublicServer> <Peter> lol
17:17:30  <PublicServer> <Peter> i use openttd auto update
17:18:15  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> you shouldn't be a idiot then ;-)
17:18:22  <PublicServer> <Peter> and can anyone tell me what it means to be mayor?
17:18:24  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> luckily, i don't need the password :-)
17:18:24  <Mark> lets hope so
17:20:39  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> so fat :o
17:20:55  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> there is like no room for drop lol
17:20:58  <PublicServer> <Mark> not sure why it says that
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17:25:53  <PublicServer> <Peter> what is PAX?
17:26:02  <PublicServer> <avdg> passengers
17:26:05  <Superbig> !help
17:26:05  <PublicServer> Superbig:
17:26:11  <PublicServer> <avdg> dont forget that
17:26:12  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> passanger
17:26:15  <PublicServer> <Peter> ok
17:26:27  <PublicServer> <Peter> that makes sense
17:26:32  <Superbig> !revision
17:26:32  <PublicServer> Superbig: Game version is r16189
17:26:39  <PublicServer> <Peter> i was wondering why no industries
17:26:53  <PublicServer> <avdg> :)
17:27:06  <PublicServer> <Peter> and magic bulldozer means we can destroy any city
17:27:15  <PublicServer> <Peter> without a rating drop?
17:27:38  <PublicServer> <avdg> unserved stations are good for giving bad rating :p
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17:27:59  <PublicServer> <Peter> oh ok
17:28:21  <PublicServer> <Peter> does that not work in here?
17:28:53  <Superbig> !password
17:28:53  <PublicServer> Superbig: honeys
17:29:29  <PublicServer> <Mark> i wonder if ZD has plans on finishing Sliggleswell
17:29:35  <PublicServer> <Mark> i doubt it
17:29:40  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> probably not
17:30:11  <PublicServer> *** Peter has left the game (connection lost)
17:30:22  <PublicServer> <avdg> his station design is a bit yamie if you add more then 2 trains/station
17:30:44  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> lol there is like 3 mega styation city and 1 tiny thing
17:31:00  <PublicServer> <avdg> where?
17:31:09  <Superbig> cant download the missing GRF
17:31:10  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> all the cities
17:31:11  <Superbig> :(
17:31:16  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> are covered in yellow
17:31:31  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> and then sliggle looks like a farm :o
17:31:37  <Mark> Superbig: bananas
17:32:24  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> damn w4 is so big
17:32:42  <Superbig> bananas?
17:32:52  <PublicServer> *** davis has left the game (connection lost)
17:33:01  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> dl missing grf from the thing
17:33:06  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> there is a missing grf thing
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17:33:12  <Superbig> yeah I know
17:33:14  <Superbig> buit it doesnt work
17:33:15  <PublicServer> *** AmmIer has left the game (connection lost)
17:33:16  <Superbig> but*
17:33:20  <Superbig> its 0 Bytes
17:33:28  <Superbig> well
17:33:32  <Superbig> im downloading from the site now
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17:34:55  <Thijs> !password
17:34:55  <PublicServer> Thijs: honeys
17:35:10  <PublicServer> *** Peter has left the game (connection lost)
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17:36:10  <PublicServer> <Thijs> hI
17:36:13  <PublicServer> <avdg> hi
17:37:11  <Superbig> where do I put the grf's?
17:37:17  <PublicServer> <Mark> data
17:37:21  <Superbig> figures.
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17:37:54  <Superbig> !password
17:37:54  <PublicServer> Superbig: honeys
17:38:04  <PeterT> thanks, i needed that too
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17:38:48  <PublicServer> <Thijs> Trottinbridge i really beginning to look like a city
17:39:10  <mensi> aaah Thijs
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17:39:22  <mensi> see NE Trottingbridge?
17:39:37  <mensi> thats about the same I built S, what was the problem there
17:40:16  <PublicServer> <avdg> aaa semaphore @ windybridge station # 552
17:40:23  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol
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17:40:28  <PublicServer> <Player> *gasp*
17:40:31  <PublicServer> <avdg> removed
17:40:37  <PublicServer> *** Player has changed his/her name to superbig
17:40:39  <PublicServer> <Thijs> Well, the station was going to have to be expanded beyond the boundaries
17:40:47  <PublicServer> <Thijs> of what was posibble
17:40:54  <PublicServer> <Mark> 563 stations, nice
17:41:07  <PublicServer> <Thijs> to connect all bracnhes of the s-bahn
17:41:19  <PublicServer> <avdg> still not all builded ...
17:41:38  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol, i detected station 404
17:41:41  <mensi> so what do you think about trottingbridge ICE east?
17:41:52  <PublicServer> <avdg> its windybridge 2.9 hor
17:41:53  <PublicServer> <Thijs> looks good
17:42:04  <PublicServer> <Thijs> nice and clean
17:42:54  <PublicServer> <Peter> can i help build something?
17:43:04  <PublicServer> <superbig> same here, I dare not touch anything
17:43:11  <PublicServer> <avdg> helping renaming :)
17:43:24  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> forget name build tracks lol
17:43:27  <PublicServer> <superbig> renaming what?
17:43:29  <mensi> 3 Quadrants of Sliggleswell need to be built ;)
17:43:30  <PublicServer> <superbig> stations?
17:43:34  <PublicServer> <avdg> windybridge
17:43:38  <PublicServer> <Peter> to what?
17:43:49  <PublicServer> <avdg> just check the stations
17:44:07  <PublicServer> <avdg> big part is already done
17:46:11  <PublicServer> <Peter> ok i am renaming
17:46:50  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> remember when u get tired u can build tracks :D
17:46:51  <PublicServer> <superbig> k, i dont know what to do -.-
17:47:22  <PublicServer> <Peter> whats after 3.9, is it 3.10 or 3 A
17:47:38  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> u ever place chess?
17:47:42  <PublicServer> <avdg> hexadeciml
17:47:45  <PublicServer> <avdg> so A
17:48:20  <PublicServer> <phatmatt> there, every s-bahn loop in Trottingbridge done with exactly the same layout/station count in each
17:48:35  <PublicServer> <Thijs> Wow!!
17:48:48  <PublicServer> <Thijs> +1 robobuilding
17:49:12  <PublicServer> <avdg> name conversion counts for 1/3
17:49:16  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol
17:50:24  <PublicServer> <avdg> hmmm...
17:50:27  <PublicServer> <avdg> missing stations
17:50:30  <PublicServer> <Thijs> just 35k pax waitning at both trottingbridge stations
17:50:30  <PublicServer> <Peter> where
17:50:52  <PublicServer> <avdg> {x}.B ver serie of windybridge
17:51:03  <PublicServer> <Mark> Thijs: kill the Rumblewell temp ones and run some
17:51:15  <PublicServer> <Peter> are we using pbs of presigals?
17:51:24  <PublicServer> <Peter> pbs OR presignals
17:51:30  <PublicServer> <Mark> both
17:51:50  <PublicServer> <Peter> ok
17:52:01  <PublicServer> <Peter> i thought you didnt like pbs mark?
17:52:06  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> booth
17:52:09  <PublicServer> <Mark> i dont
17:52:21  <PublicServer> <Mark> only at a few situations
17:52:23  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> i need to make w4 longer and skinnier
17:52:40  <PublicServer> <Peter> ok
17:52:45  <PublicServer> <Peter> yeah sometimes they are useful
17:52:55  <PublicServer> <superbig> i love how this all looks, is there a writeup somewhere, so I understand how to help?
17:53:21  <PublicServer> <Mark> just copy :P
17:53:27  <PublicServer> <superbig> wisdom
17:53:46  <tneo> evening
17:53:55  <PublicServer> <Mark> evening tneo
17:54:00  <PublicServer> <Peter> evening
17:54:32  <PublicServer> <avdg> hi
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17:54:39  <PublicServer> <Thijs> Any opinions on trottingbridge south transfer?
17:54:41  <PublicServer> <Peter> hey tneo
17:54:59  <PublicServer> <Mark> looks good Thijs
17:55:23  <PublicServer> <Thijs> even with the pbs ;)
17:55:35  <mensi> at the south station, I added another strain... was a pain in the ass
17:55:39  <mensi> didn't dare to add more
17:55:44  <PublicServer> <Mark> i used some pbs too :P
17:56:52  <PublicServer> <Thijs> seems the trains are just able to pickup the pax from the city stations
17:56:56  <PublicServer> <Peter> what is "sbahn"?
17:57:05  <PublicServer> <Thijs> stadt-bahn
17:57:07  <mensi> stadtbahn
17:57:07  <PublicServer> <Thijs> geman
17:57:11  <PublicServer> <Thijs> german
17:57:32  <PublicServer> <Peter> what is it in english
17:57:39  <mensi> metro?
17:57:50  <PublicServer> <Peter> ok
17:58:08  <mensi> urban rail network? ;)
17:58:18  <PublicServer> <Peter> ok, like a subway
17:58:21  <mensi> nope
17:58:33  <mensi> normal tracks, mostly not in tunnels
17:58:34  <hylje> commuter rail
17:58:45  <PublicServer> <Peter> i get that
17:58:46  <hylje> big wide trains that go fast
17:58:56  <PublicServer> <Peter> but it takes PAX around the city
17:58:58  <hylje> metro tends to be narrower and goes slower
17:59:01  <Mark>
17:59:09  <Mark> that wasnt too hard
17:59:12  <PublicServer> <Peter> now if only i could copy that
17:59:13  <PublicServer> <Thijs> ;) wiki knows
17:59:48  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> who murdered my train!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
17:59:51  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> :o
18:00:01  <PublicServer> <avdg> where?
18:00:09  <PublicServer> <Thijs> what's with the  '5 r' and 'far 3 near 4 r ' signs
18:00:25  <mensi> we got those: for our S bahn here, they're quite nice
18:00:28  <mensi> fast acceleration
18:00:44  <PublicServer> <phatmatt> Thijs: it was just to remind me how many stations should go on each loop when building
18:00:56  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> nvm
18:01:01  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> they are just stukcs
18:01:02  <PublicServer> <Thijs> what does the r stand for
18:01:13  <PublicServer> <phatmatt> far 3 near 4 means there's 3 stations on the outer loop, further out to the city
18:01:17  <PublicServer> <phatmatt> and 4 on the inner
18:01:27  <PublicServer> <phatmatt> i put an 'r' when i'd build and checked the roads for that loop :)
18:01:31  <PublicServer> <phatmatt> i
18:01:34  <PublicServer> <phatmatt> i'll delete the signs now
18:01:39  <PublicServer> <Thijs> ah
18:01:47  <PublicServer> <Thijs> well, you've done quite a job
18:02:04  <PublicServer> <Mark> that was a lot of track
18:02:14  <PublicServer> <Mark> hope youre happy ghost :P
18:02:46  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> but it needs signal and cross over tracks :o
18:02:47  <PublicServer> <Thijs> this game is really an s-bahn contest
18:03:03  <PublicServer> <Thijs> think the city with most pax transported wins
18:03:32  <PublicServer> <Thijs> 170k for rumblewell
18:03:39  <PublicServer> <Mark> well, get to work then :P
18:03:48  <PublicServer> <Thijs> 40k for trottingbridge
18:04:01  <PublicServer> <superbig> how do you konw
18:04:02  <PublicServer> <Mark> i could move more at Rumblewell
18:04:11  <PublicServer> <Thijs> why don't you?
18:04:14  <PublicServer> <avdg> ok names are done and checked
18:04:21  <PublicServer> <superbig> 'cause?
18:04:24  <PublicServer> <Mark> just need ta add trains :P
18:04:29  <PublicServer> <superbig> how do you know, I ask you :P
18:04:33  <PublicServer> <Mark> and dont feel like that
18:04:36  <davis-> !Password
18:04:38  <PublicServer> <avdg> singaling
18:04:38  <davis-> !password
18:04:38  <PublicServer> davis-: vaster
18:04:39  <PublicServer> <Peter> do rules say you cant use airports
18:04:40  <PublicServer> <Thijs> click on city name
18:04:51  <PublicServer> <superbig> ah
18:04:54  <PublicServer> <superbig> nvm
18:04:54  <PublicServer> *** davis joined the game
18:04:55  <PublicServer> <superbig> stupid
18:04:56  <PublicServer> <Thijs> then it says pax transported
18:04:57  <PublicServer> <superbig> -.-
18:05:04  <PublicServer> <Thijs> i'm off again
18:05:09  <PublicServer> <Mark> cya
18:05:10  <PublicServer> <davis> hi
18:05:17  <PublicServer> <Mark> hello
18:05:22  <PublicServer> <davis> laters Thijs
18:05:22  <mensi> somebody needs to build N and W transfers at trottingbridge
18:05:23  <PublicServer> <Thijs> will be back tomorrow
18:05:28  <PublicServer> <Thijs> bye
18:05:31  <PublicServer> <Peter> bye
18:05:32  <PublicServer> *** Thijs has left the game (leaving)
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18:06:40  <PublicServer> <Peter> who is the mayor of windybridge?
18:06:49  <PublicServer> <avdg> ghost :p
18:06:52  <PublicServer> <avdg> i think
18:07:01  <PublicServer> <Peter> ok
18:07:22  <PublicServer> <Peter> is airports against the rules
18:07:37  <PublicServer> <avdg> where?
18:07:40  <PublicServer> <Mark> read-the-damn-wiki
18:07:41  <PublicServer> <davis> what would you want to build a airport for?
18:07:47  <PublicServer> <Peter> i dont, just asking
18:08:00  <PublicServer> <davis> its a train game , apparantly :P
18:08:05  <PublicServer> <Peter> ok
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18:08:44  <PublicServer> <superbig> why no prios?
18:08:46  <PublicServer> <superbig> not worth it?
18:09:03  <PublicServer> <Mark> we should do a test that people would have ta pass before being allowed to join
18:09:17  <PublicServer> <davis> i'd have failed that one :x
18:09:20  <PublicServer> <Mark> superbig: not needed
18:09:23  <PublicServer> <superbig> thanks, just asking :P
18:09:28  <PublicServer> <Mark> for now at last
18:09:38  <PublicServer> <Peter> what does ICE stand for?
18:09:41  <PublicServer> <Mark> was directed to Peter
18:09:46  <PublicServer> <davis> inter city express?
18:09:51  <PublicServer> <Peter> ok
18:09:53  <PublicServer> <avdg> oh i forgot that :p
18:09:58  <PublicServer> <avdg> failed on my test :p
18:10:06  <PublicServer> <davis> gz
18:10:24  <PublicServer> <davis> brb fries
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18:13:12  <PublicServer> <avdg> north should be finished yet...
18:13:18  <PublicServer> <avdg> at windybridge
18:13:41  <PublicServer> <Peter> lol, this is at the bottom of the rules page "NEVER join the server twice. Ask others to join as well. It's a coop server - and you can hardly playing by yourself call co-operation. "
18:14:02  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol
18:14:09  <PublicServer> <Peter> ok sorry mark
18:14:13  <PublicServer> <Peter> i wont join twice anymore
18:14:14  <PublicServer> <avdg> unless your brain is multitasking
18:14:18  <PublicServer> <Peter> haha
18:14:20  <PublicServer> <avdg> these are twins :p
18:14:33  <PublicServer> <Peter> how big were these cities at the start?
18:14:39  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> 0
18:15:03  <PublicServer> <avdg> all citys
18:15:09  <PublicServer> <Peter> wait, if they were 0, how can they grow?
18:15:22  <PublicServer> <avdg> growth settings?
18:15:23  <De_Ghost> fund
18:15:34  <PublicServer> <Peter> ok
18:15:57  <PublicServer> <Peter> and how did you make it so that the cities cant build roads
18:16:29  <PublicServer> <avdg> dont allow towns to build roads?
18:16:52  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> setting
18:16:59  <PublicServer> <Peter> look at the signs in the middle of the map
18:17:01  <PublicServer> <Peter> ok
18:17:06  <PublicServer> <Peter> under "advanced settings"
18:17:20  <PublicServer> <Peter> oh ok
18:17:32  <PublicServer> <Peter> "allow towns to build roads:off"
18:19:01  <PublicServer> <avdg> hmmm
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18:20:15  <PublicServer> <avdg> founded wrong way signaling...
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18:21:58  <Godde> what do you write in the console to keep trains from turning around at PBS?
18:22:27  <PublicServer> <Peter> i didnt know there was a command for that
18:22:33  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> there is a command for that?
18:22:37  <Godde> ye
18:22:50  <PublicServer> <Peter>
18:22:53  <Godde> "patch.... something... 255"
18:23:35  <Godde> its not there
18:23:37  <Godde> afaik
18:23:50  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> i think ur just useing the wrong pbs
18:24:07  <PublicServer> <avdg> ok just signalling the routes trought the city in windybridge
18:24:12  <PublicServer> <Peter> are you using one way?
18:24:19  <PublicServer> <avdg> for the hor series
18:24:36  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> there is 2  type of pbs
18:24:50  <PublicServer> <Peter> one way, and two way
18:24:57  <Godde> i know
18:25:09  <PublicServer> <Peter> k
18:25:10  <Godde> but there is a command to keep them from turning around if they cant find a route
18:25:28  <valhalla1w> max_wait_oneway and max_wait_twoway
18:25:30  <valhalla1w> or something like that
18:25:35  *** valhalla1w is now known as valhallasw
18:25:43  <valhallasw> check the patches section on the ottd wiki
18:25:45  <PublicServer> *** Kenji has left the game (leaving)
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18:25:53  <PublicServer> <Peter> ERORR: command or variable not found :P
18:26:06  <valhallasw> 20:25 < valhalla1w> or something like that
18:26:58  <PublicServer> <avdg> im bored... need global signalling and in the 'ver' series some constructions @ windybridge
18:27:47  <PublicServer> <avdg> i'll try to finish signalling in the hor series
18:28:55  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> there is twice as many horizontal then ver
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18:31:02  <PublicServer> <Mark> what the
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18:31:34  <PublicServer> <avdg> ?
18:31:35  <PublicServer> <Peter> what?
18:31:43  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> the what?
18:31:44  <Addi> !playercount
18:31:44  <PublicServer> Addi: Number of players: 7
18:31:49  <PublicServer> <Mark> what clown called a road construction?
18:32:06  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> lol
18:32:15  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol, i see that much on other servers if they want to expand there city
18:32:18  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> u don't even use road anyways let em
18:32:27  <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah i dont mind
18:32:42  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> does that even help
18:32:45  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> it doesn't right?
18:32:50  <PublicServer> <Mark> how would that help for expanding?
18:32:52  <Addi> !download win32
18:32:52  <PublicServer> Addi:
18:32:53  <PublicServer> <Peter> that was me,,i was trying to fund new buildings
18:32:59  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> lol
18:33:03  <PublicServer> <Mark> nice job
18:33:05  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> u missed :)
18:33:23  <PublicServer> <avdg> mouse was running :)
18:33:28  <PublicServer> <Peter> my mouse ran of of batteries so it randomly turns off
18:33:30  <PublicServer> <avdg> trying to escape
18:33:54  <PublicServer> <Peter> does it matter, we dont use roads
18:34:01  <Addi> !grf
18:34:01  <PublicServer> Addi: (Version 7.3)
18:34:19  <PublicServer> <Peter> last year about 70,000 $ from road vehicles
18:35:04  <PublicServer> <Peter> ok
18:35:15  <PublicServer> <Mark> obama a communist? interesting vision
18:35:28  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol
18:35:37  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> not communist
18:35:41  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> more like dictatorship
18:35:52  <PublicServer> <Peter> is everyone here from USA?
18:36:01  <PublicServer> <Mark> no one is
18:36:05  <PublicServer> <avdg> belgium :)
18:36:07  <PublicServer> <Peter> ok
18:36:10  <PublicServer> <Peter> i am
18:36:11  <PublicServer> <avdg> many from the netherlands
18:36:13  <PublicServer> <Mark> almost no one that is
18:36:14  <PublicServer> <Peter> mark?
18:36:20  <PublicServer> <Peter> where are you from
18:36:28  <PublicServer> <Mark> holland
18:36:31  <PublicServer> <avdg> mark -> the netherlands, right :)
18:36:35  <PublicServer> <Peter> ok
18:36:38  <PublicServer> <avdg> oh :p
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18:36:51  <PublicServer> <avdg> i think ghosty too...
18:36:58  <PublicServer> <Peter> what about de ghost, is he?
18:36:58  <PublicServer> <Mark> i doubt it
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18:38:12  <PublicServer> <avdg> you know, obama is very popular in europe
18:38:29  <PublicServer> <Peter> im so glad. too bad he is our president
18:38:32  <PublicServer> <Mark> because he's a socialist
18:38:34  <PublicServer> <avdg> xd
18:38:40  <PublicServer> <avdg> a good 1
18:38:55  <PublicServer> <Peter> yes he is a socialist
18:39:13  <PublicServer> <Peter> he has gansters running the presidential cabinet
18:39:18  <PublicServer> <Mark> " yeah, lets just print another 0 billion"
18:39:20  <PublicServer> <avdg> but after some crashes in america you need socialists
18:39:27  <PublicServer> <Peter> no
18:39:29  <PublicServer> <Peter> we dont
18:39:33  <Addi> !password
18:39:33  <PublicServer> Addi: deigns
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18:39:49  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> u need better regulation
18:39:57  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> look how far behind ur infastructure is
18:40:21  <PublicServer> <Peter> that may be, but we never will need a socialist
18:40:30  <PublicServer> <Mark> heh
18:40:45  <PublicServer> <Peter> he has criminals, people who cheat on taxes, have gone to jail, running the cabinet
18:40:58  <PublicServer> <Mark> point being?
18:41:04  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> does he?
18:41:09  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> i don't follow the states :o
18:41:13  <PublicServer> <Peter> criminals shouldnt be in a place of power!
18:41:38  <PublicServer> <Mark> no one is clean
18:42:11  <PublicServer> <Mark> besides, you chose the guy to run your country
18:42:17  <PublicServer> <Peter> i didnt
18:42:22  <PublicServer> <Peter> i voted for mccain
18:42:34  <PublicServer> <avdg> i think that even obama cant keep belgium alive :p
18:42:47  <PublicServer> <Mark> thats the maior flaw in the states: one person has too much power
18:42:51  <PublicServer> <avdg> belgium is small, but damm hard for goverments
18:43:04  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> mccain
18:43:07  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> are you a christian?
18:43:12  <PublicServer> <avdg> who?
18:43:18  <PublicServer> <Peter> how about this, europe? form into one country, then you can have obama for president
18:43:29  <PublicServer> <avdg> ... again
18:43:30  <PublicServer> <avdg> agains
18:43:39  <PublicServer> <Peter> i am christian, yes
18:43:44  <PublicServer> <avdg> belgium is not controlable without a local goverment
18:43:53  <PublicServer> <Mark> we got the EU, but thats a joke
18:44:00  <PublicServer> <Peter> ok
18:44:07  <PublicServer> <avdg> even the president of eu was forced
18:44:18  <PublicServer> <avdg> that is agains the goal of europe
18:44:38  <PublicServer> <Peter> brb
18:44:40  <PublicServer> <avdg> but that makes it difficult to tell who is in charge
18:44:45  <PublicServer> *** Peter has changed his/her name to AWAY
18:44:50  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol
18:44:54  <PublicServer> <Mark> ...
18:45:14  <PublicServer> *** avdg has changed his/her name to {avdg[away]?}
18:45:24  <PublicServer> *** Mark has changed his/her name to Sjaak
18:45:26  <PublicServer> *** {avdg[away]?} has changed his/her name to avdg
18:45:31  <PublicServer> *** Sjaak has changed his/her name to Mark
18:45:37  <PublicServer> <avdg> allo sjaakie
18:45:50  <PublicServer> <avdg> :p
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18:46:24  <Mark> DESYNC
18:46:30  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> it could be worst
18:46:33  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> u can have a communist
18:46:35  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> :o
18:46:56  <PublicServer> <avdg> :( i dont need on who i need to vote next month
18:47:01  <PublicServer> <avdg> im 19
18:47:06  <PublicServer> <avdg> 18 now :)
18:47:11  <PublicServer> <avdg> so my first vote
18:47:15  <Mark> the idea behind communim isnt that bad' it just never works out
18:47:19  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> the pirate party of sweden
18:47:26  <Mark> vlaams blok? :P
18:47:41  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> communist doesn't work cuz we don't have enough resource
18:47:42  <PublicServer> <avdg> damm... i need to add sweden...
18:47:48  <Mark> !password
18:47:48  <PublicServer> Mark: phlegm
18:47:53  <PublicServer> <avdg> but im a legal downloader :)
18:47:53  <Booth> !password
18:47:53  <PublicServer> Booth: phlegm
18:47:55  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> and money != resource
18:47:57  <PublicServer> <avdg> except history...
18:47:57  <Mark> nice pass
18:48:07  <PublicServer> *** Mark joined the game
18:48:21  <PublicServer> <avdg> xd try to speak that out
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18:49:14  <PublicServer> <avdg> grrr....
18:49:22  <PublicServer> <avdg> windybridg 3.6 hor
18:49:27  <PublicServer> <Mark> coffee time
18:49:48  <PublicServer> *** AWAY has changed his/her name to Peter
18:49:59  <PublicServer> <avdg> peter: do peter[away]
18:50:16  <PublicServer> <avdg> and  join spectaters
18:50:22  <PublicServer> <Peter> ok
18:50:26  <PublicServer> <Peter> why join specs?
18:50:28  <PublicServer> <avdg> actually that second is enough
18:50:36  <PublicServer> <avdg> becouse you arent playing
18:50:37  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> looks like cities don't like to grow just in one direction
18:50:46  <De_Ghost> they don't
18:50:53  <De_Ghost> u need to grow em in a circle
18:51:12  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> Sliggleswell: is a good example
18:51:30  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> well there is a way
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18:51:35  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> but it's alot of effort
18:51:51  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> bridges and tunnels?
18:51:58  <PublicServer> <avdg> pfff... i stop with signalling windybridge hor for a moment
18:53:30  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> who put so fat on my station (W4)?
18:53:55  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> and who renamed it again?
18:54:05  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ME
18:54:08  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> its W4
18:54:42  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> we need to practice the directions
18:54:54  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> why?
18:55:02  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> every one know north sounth east and west
18:55:05  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> because Mark didn't know them
18:55:39  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> well it kinda depends
18:55:42  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> up can be north
18:55:46  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I also made the train goups
18:55:47  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> or left can be north
18:55:58  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> i put so fat
18:56:00  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> cuz it's fat
18:56:01  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> that way, so please keep it that way
18:56:02  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> :o
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18:56:16  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> fat is in big or fat as in cool?
18:56:23  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> fat as in wide
18:56:28  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> but i wourked around it
18:56:31  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> it's all cool
18:56:45  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i like my station like that
18:57:19  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i am never sure wether to balance on entrane or exit
18:57:24  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i perer exit
18:57:27  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> perfer
18:57:39  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but entrance is proven better
18:57:41  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> always balance exit imo
18:57:45  <PublicServer> <avdg> ghost, are my names too complicated?
18:57:46  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> is it
18:57:46  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> or maybe balance on both
18:57:51  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> no
18:57:55  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> ur name
18:57:56  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> are like
18:58:05  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> i don't understand but i don't use them anyways hahhaha
18:58:18  <PublicServer> <avdg> no i mean @ windybridge
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18:58:21  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> i just need a general area
18:58:26  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> w/e u want baby
18:58:32  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> i just build
18:58:50  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> u can name em lllllllll|||||||||lllll
18:58:55  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> lol
18:59:02  <PublicServer> <avdg> :p
18:59:08  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> make up zip codes for them
18:59:10  <PublicServer> <avdg> but not too complicated with hor and ver
18:59:27  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> the transfer trains don't have shared orders
18:59:30  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> or zone like in london
18:59:32  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> shall I remove them?
18:59:47  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> o
18:59:50  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> doesn't really matter
18:59:52  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> if u want
19:00:09  <PublicServer> <avdg> ghost, what should i do @ 4.5 hor?
19:00:17  <PublicServer> <avdg> 1 2 depot?
19:00:26  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> what are teh transfer trains for?
19:00:53  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> trash
19:01:01  <PublicServer> <Peter> like my highway
19:01:24  <PublicServer> <avdg> i sended it to depot
19:01:40  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> why did you build a high way?
19:01:41  <mensi> !password
19:01:41  <PublicServer> mensi: avenge
19:01:55  <PublicServer> <Peter> no reason
19:01:56  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> De_Ghost: you really don't need it anymore?
19:01:57  <PublicServer> <avdg> removed...
19:02:00  <PublicServer> *** mensi joined the game
19:02:07  <PublicServer> <Peter> i might use it
19:02:12  <PublicServer> <Peter> when the city grows
19:02:24  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> it just takes up room
19:02:49  <PublicServer> <Peter> if you need the room, then remove
19:02:51  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> can i majic buldoze sliggleswell?
19:02:52  <PublicServer> <Peter> but only then
19:03:03  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i want to buld my own sbhan
19:03:44  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> take a quarter at Sliggleswell
19:04:04  <PublicServer> <Peter> we need a new mayor of siggles well
19:04:35  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> that quarter drops at east
19:04:53  <mensi> *&*%&*& who the fuck changed the signals on trottingbridge again?
19:04:54  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and south?
19:05:03  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> south is for the other one
19:05:12  <mensi> those were not entry-/exit- signals to look funny
19:05:40  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> if you want to build for both?
19:05:46  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> the whole half?
19:06:05  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i want to make a random custom stsyem
19:06:10  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> system
19:06:18  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> that i have been working on
19:06:33  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but siggles well is 2 x 2
19:06:39  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and i need 3 x 3
19:06:39  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> well do what you like and use the south-west one too
19:06:53  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> (if you like)
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19:10:51  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol
19:11:01  <PublicServer> <avdg> just deleted when i wanted to delete
19:11:19  <PublicServer> <avdg> what with the banks?
19:11:27  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> would be nice, if you let the northern run
19:11:50  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> me?
19:11:53  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> yes
19:11:56  <PublicServer> *** avdg has joined spectators
19:11:59  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> you removed those tracks
19:12:08  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i am not doing anything to the northern
19:12:20  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> well, the station is on the south
19:12:39  <PublicServer> <phatmatt> wtf
19:13:04  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> Chris Booth: could you repair it again?
19:13:24  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i didnt delete it
19:13:39  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> did i?
19:13:49  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> who did clean the sourth-west?
19:13:50  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> erm and oops if i did
19:13:59  <Godde> !password
19:13:59  <PublicServer> Godde: crimed
19:14:04  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i cleaned it
19:14:12  <PublicServer> *** Godde joined the game
19:14:12  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but made sure i didnt delete that
19:14:52  <PublicServer> <avdg> ok i'll start signalling again
19:14:57  <PublicServer> *** avdg has joined company #1
19:15:48  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> sorry if i did
19:15:55  <PublicServer> <avdg> ?
19:16:16  <PublicServer> *** Godde has left the game (connection lost)
19:17:09  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> can someone help me in sligelswell?
19:17:48  <ZarenorDarkstalker> !password
19:17:48  <PublicServer> ZarenorDarkstalker: crimed
19:17:58  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> do you also add that many stations like Mark and De_Ghost?
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19:18:14  <PublicServer> <avdg> he is back :)
19:18:32  <mensi> and he will kick your asses out of town for killing his layout
19:18:51  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> we halved your city :-)
19:18:55  <PublicServer> <avdg> wtf...
19:19:02  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> I see that...
19:19:09  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> sorry
19:19:17  <PublicServer> <avdg> under even more space needed i guess
19:19:21  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> and I am not sure, if I connected the other circle corrent
19:19:23  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> we're still going to need to develop that other side at some point
19:19:46  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> but lets see the damage
19:19:50  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> lol
19:20:09  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> can someone help me build a 3x3 grid on the new side?
19:20:23  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and then build stations as in my example
19:20:26  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I can
19:20:28  <PublicServer> <avdg> im buzy... still alot todo
19:20:39  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> is that highway needed?
19:21:09  <PublicServer> <Peter> wow, thanks for asking
19:21:13  <PublicServer> <Peter> before deleting
19:21:21  <PublicServer> <Peter> why dont i delete everyone's tracks
19:21:52  <PublicServer> <Peter> ammler?
19:22:01  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> Peter?
19:22:07  <PublicServer> <Peter> can you ask before deleting something that someone made?
19:22:23  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> a) I didn't
19:22:27  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> b) I asked
19:22:35  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> c) nvm ;-)
19:22:40  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and c) it was in the way
19:22:42  <PublicServer> <Peter> so who deleted it?
19:23:03  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> doesn't matter, it was useless
19:23:06  <mensi> dude, seriously, you can build highways in singleplayer games or something
19:25:05  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol
19:25:25  <Razaekel> !password
19:25:25  <PublicServer> Razaekel: fended
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19:26:34  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i hope 3 x 4 worksd
19:26:44  <PublicServer> <Peter> can someone from IRC tell me the password?
19:26:52  <PublicServer> <Peter> i cant use !password here
19:27:03  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> you are in
19:27:04  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> fended, but why dso you need it?
19:27:07  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> you need to be in IRC
19:27:20  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> it changes every somany minutes
19:27:20  <PublicServer> <Peter> or, someone IN irc could tell me
19:27:21  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> lol
19:27:27  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> sliggleswell
19:27:30  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> under new management
19:27:46  <PublicServer> <Peter> btw, what is cargo dest?
19:28:13  <PublicServer> <avdg> giving a cargo destination :)
19:28:35  <PublicServer> <Peter> but what does it mena?
19:28:35  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> you should use viewport for such tasks ;-)
19:29:05  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> it means the cargo automatically plans routes from one spot on your network to another
19:29:11  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> hmmm booth's plan have 60% working space
19:29:16  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> but it's only n to s
19:29:16  <PublicServer> <Peter> is it better?
19:29:23  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> i plas where to go based on the trains or other vehicles running
19:29:30  <PublicServer> <Peter> ok
19:29:37  <PublicServer> <Peter> is it a patch?
19:29:42  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> it makes games interesting
19:29:53  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> and yes, it's a patch, but binaries are available
19:29:54  <PublicServer> <avdg> so you put the network, and the cargo calculates wich network must be used
19:30:03  <PublicServer> <Peter> oh ok
19:30:06  <PublicServer> <avdg> to reach his destination
19:30:08  <PublicServer> <Peter> banaries where?
19:30:14  <PublicServer> <Peter>
19:30:19  <PublicServer> <avdg> openttdcoop blog
19:30:28  <PublicServer> <Peter> new nightly just came out!
19:30:33  <PublicServer> <avdg> there you find a link
19:30:38  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> i sue TTD AU for cargodest binaries, but there are toher ways...
19:30:42  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I really don't like the new waypoint signs
19:30:44  <PublicServer> <Peter> same
19:31:29  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> chris there is also a drop in the south needed
19:31:46  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> will you redirect the west there?
19:32:13  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I am going to do one line in each driection
19:32:20  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> then loop arround the outside
19:32:23  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> bbl
19:32:24  <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> going out
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19:34:08  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> is that a SRNW in the SW?
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19:34:15  <Booth> !password
19:34:15  <PublicServer> Booth: fended
19:34:19  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> that NW corner?
19:34:24  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> no
19:34:24  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> not yet, i'm considering it
19:34:26  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> SW
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19:34:33  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth #1> what town?
19:34:35  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> of which city?
19:34:40  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> sliggles
19:34:45  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth #1> yes
19:36:04  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> Chris Booth #1: possible to let the trains running, before you build the whole network?
19:36:16  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> imo, it should
19:36:36  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth #1> why am i #1 now?
19:36:42  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth #1> yeah we can test it
19:37:03  <PublicServer> <Peter> im gonna go
19:37:07  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth #1> bye bye peter
19:37:12  <PublicServer> <Peter> byhe everyone
19:37:25  <PublicServer> *** Peter has left the game (leaving)
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19:37:44  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> not only test
19:37:59  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth #1> but?
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19:38:21  <Andel> Ammler??
19:38:21  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> make it productive with the first 2 rows
19:38:24  <Andel> ahhhh
19:38:26  <Andel> he be here
19:38:43  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> yes, he is
19:38:52  <Andel> hehe - i have sent you an irc query
19:40:13  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ammler what else do you want me to do apart from test teh network?
19:40:46  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> let us already build the transfer stations
19:40:57  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> and then let the first 2 lines work
19:41:00  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yes lets do that
19:41:03  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> and connect the rest after
19:41:19  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> well line 1 is built and singnaled
19:41:29  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> but you need to show how your plan looks :-)
19:41:44  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> odd lines will go to west
19:41:46  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> how to connect the rows
19:41:49  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> even lines to wouth
19:42:01  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> hmm
19:43:23  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i also need to find space for teh over flows
19:44:16  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> hmm
19:44:28  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> but the even rows have opposite direction
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19:44:56  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> they will yes
19:45:08  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> lets build transfer stations first
19:46:02  <PublicServer> <avdg> whoohoo!
19:46:11  <PublicServer> <avdg> hor signalling windybridge complete
19:46:20  <PublicServer> <avdg> only the drop stations
19:46:54  <PublicServer> <avdg> big silence job:p
19:47:53  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> feeder lines can stop at first station
19:48:00  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> exit lines i mean
19:49:34  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i built siggwel east in the wrong place
19:49:40  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> damn me
19:49:54  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol? who added arrows?
19:49:56  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> very hard to walk
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19:52:08  <PublicServer> <avdg> hmmm... where is ghost when you need him...
19:52:23  <PublicServer> <avdg> i have some rating troubles
19:52:34  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> where?
19:52:40  <PublicServer> <avdg> windybridge
19:52:45  <PublicServer> <avdg> city is not happy at all
19:53:03  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> fixed
19:53:04  <PublicServer> <avdg> its the rating
19:53:14  <PublicServer> <avdg> trains are serving 2 stations...
19:53:38  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> which stations?
19:53:47  <PublicServer> <avdg> the network in windybridge
19:53:55  <PublicServer> <avdg> so any train there
19:54:28  <PublicServer> <avdg> maybe solve it with penaltys?
19:54:50  <PublicServer> <avdg> and let the trains automatic choose there station...
19:55:05  <PublicServer> <avdg> but then i need to close every unneeded station
19:55:21  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> brb
19:55:55  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> you just need more trains
19:56:11  <PublicServer> <avdg> not all stations are ready
19:56:18  <PublicServer> <avdg> dropstations
19:56:30  <PublicServer> <avdg> also 'ver' is not done yet
19:57:08  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> or dont use the full load orders
20:00:01  <PublicServer> <avdg> brb
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20:00:28  <Godde> !tunnels 20 4
20:00:28  <PublicServer> Godde: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 20 and gap 4.
20:01:17  <PublicServer> <davis> crank2 = intense
20:01:24  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> good?
20:01:31  <PublicServer> <davis> if you liked the first one
20:01:32  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> booth, you have 2x45s
20:01:32  <PublicServer> <davis> yes
20:01:38  <PublicServer> <avdg> wow, who bribed windybridge?
20:01:41  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> me
20:01:43  <PublicServer> <davis> it got a little bit more senseless and brutal.
20:01:53  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> i'm the master of bribery
20:04:13  <PublicServer> <davis> so far i like Tortingbridge the most
20:04:23  <PublicServer> *** avdg has joined company #1
20:04:41  <PublicServer> <avdg> oh i was spectating :p
20:05:21  <PublicServer> <avdg> wow 599 stations!
20:05:26  <PublicServer> <avdg> now 598 :/
20:10:41  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> bye bye sliggledwell east
20:10:58  <PublicServer> <avdg> ?
20:11:05  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i put it in the wrong place
20:11:09  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol
20:11:16  <PublicServer> <avdg> now 597?
20:11:21  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> station spear isnt that big
20:11:28  <PublicServer> <avdg> :) 599
20:11:29  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> 599 stations
20:11:45  <PublicServer> <avdg> 3 useless stations founded :p
20:11:56  <PublicServer> <avdg> and plan :p
20:12:01  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> how am i going to place an ICE station at sliggleswell east?
20:12:21  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> Chris Booth: I would move the transfer
20:12:27  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I mean the drop
20:12:44  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> where 2?
20:13:01  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> to the near of the IC station
20:13:07  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> maybe a terminus?
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20:13:43  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> make east line go teh otherway
20:15:13  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> mini map looks nice
20:15:29  <PublicServer> <avdg> yeah
20:15:40  <PublicServer> <avdg> check windybridge xd
20:16:18  <PublicServer> <avdg> trottingbridge :)
20:17:31  <PublicServer> <avdg> i need new slaves for windybridge
20:17:35  <PublicServer> <avdg> im tired :p
20:17:46  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> hehe
20:17:50  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> need slaves a Sliggelswell
20:18:02  <PublicServer> <avdg> who is working by who?
20:18:38  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol, worldpopulation
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20:21:05  <PublicServer> <avdg> many players here...
20:21:13  <PublicServer> <avdg> who is by who?
20:21:27  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i am by my self
20:21:33  <PublicServer> <avdg> or who is offline, when joined in the company :p
20:21:34  <PublicServer> <davis> iam here
20:21:36  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> I'm by myself
20:21:37  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> and I am slave of chris
20:21:40  <PublicServer> <davis> kinky
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20:23:38  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> afk a bit
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20:27:29  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ammler can youbuild soruth drop?
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20:28:36  <FHS> !revision
20:28:36  <PublicServer> FHS: Game version is r16189
20:28:49  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> again?
20:28:59  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ooh you ahve done it
20:29:00  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> sorry
20:32:06  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> east drop done
20:33:43  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ammler your signals are teh wrong way arround
20:34:19  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> isn't even for south?
20:34:41  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> it is for wouth
20:34:46  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> south
20:34:52  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> all track run teh same way
20:35:13  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> same direction as ML
20:35:20  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> oh
20:35:27  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> or clock wise
20:35:30  <Icewing> !password
20:35:30  <PublicServer> Icewing: sagged
20:35:34  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I thought, they make a circle
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20:35:46  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no
20:35:56  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> it will make 2 seperate loops
20:36:01  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> both clockwise
20:36:03  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> hmm
20:36:20  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> then you need to manage 2 things
20:36:31  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> it has 2 overflows
20:36:42  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> why not just make one?
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20:36:54  <FHS> !password
20:36:54  <PublicServer> FHS: sagged
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20:37:21  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> we could connect the exit of south to east entrance
20:37:24  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> 1-east-2-south-3-east-4-south-5-east...
20:37:33  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yeah
20:37:46  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but the rings still both run clockwise
20:39:20  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> but then trains need to drive the whole row empty every other time
20:39:45  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> doesnt matter
20:39:45  <Godde> !tunnels 6 13
20:39:45  <PublicServer> Godde: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 6 and gap 13.
20:39:48  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> hmm
20:39:50  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> isnt about making the most money
20:39:57  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> well
20:40:16  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> but it is about making something perfect
20:40:32  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> that is true
20:40:49  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i thought it would just be easyer to make them run the same way
20:41:01  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> is there a problem for the row itself, if every other is the other direction?
20:41:02  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> rather than one clockwise and one anti clockwise
20:41:27  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> shouldnt make a row difference
20:41:32  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> it would make it look cooler, if not all trains drive same direction
20:41:47  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> maybe not, dunno.
20:41:56  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> we can make a row the otherway and see if it fits
20:41:59  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> it is your plan, you decide
20:42:30  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> let have one clockwise and one anti
20:43:17  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but then you need to buld a loop on you drop
20:43:27  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> no
20:43:36  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I would change the signals
20:43:40  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> should be possible
20:44:02  <PublicServer> <Mark> back
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20:45:08  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> so
20:45:10  <PublicServer> <Mark> omg
20:45:11  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> what now?
20:45:28  <PublicServer> <Mark> we should ban peter now
20:45:29  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i ahve chaned it to one clockwise one anit colwise
20:45:39  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> why?
20:45:50  <PublicServer> <Mark> for writing on the map
20:46:04  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> he, didn't see
20:46:25  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> what have he written?
20:46:31  <PublicServer> <Mark> his name
20:46:39  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> well
20:46:48  <Godde> !tunnels 20 20
20:46:48  <PublicServer> Godde: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 20 and gap 20.
20:46:49  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> then we would need a lot more
20:46:58  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> to ban, inc you
20:47:11  <PublicServer> <Mark> it would be his third warning
20:47:30  <PublicServer> <Mark> youre talking about game 58 :P
20:47:38  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> dunno
20:47:42  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> which game :-D
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20:49:21  <mehmehmeh> !password
20:49:21  <PublicServer> mehmehmeh: skates
20:50:53  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ammler now you need to connect both side of you station to teh west of the netwrok
20:50:59  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> network
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20:54:14  <PublicServer> <Mark> Peter: dont write on the map again
20:55:02  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I am kinda confused
20:55:18  <PublicServer> <Mark> how come?
20:55:22  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ammler why?
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20:56:09  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ammler why you confused?
20:56:15  <PublicServer> <avdg> <-wb
20:56:17  <mehmehmeh> ok sorry
20:56:23  <mehmehmeh> !name Peter
20:56:23  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hi AVDG
20:56:29  <mehmehmeh> about writing
20:56:34  <PublicServer> <avdg> sis troubles :/
20:56:36  <mehmehmeh> when do you make up these rules mark?
20:56:56  <PublicServer> <Mark> isnt that in the rules then?
20:57:04  <PublicServer> <Mark> i dont make up rules
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20:57:30  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> they are the rules mark
20:57:34  <PublicServer> <davis> mark is the law
20:57:39  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> dont write on the map
20:57:40  <PublicServer> <Mark> heh
20:57:47  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> dont distroy the map
20:57:50  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ECT ECT
20:58:10  <PublicServer> <avdg> save the map
20:58:17  <PublicServer> <avdg> and save us
20:58:25  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> save my brain
20:58:37  <PublicServer> <avdg> and this game will be safe :p
20:58:50  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i wish i didnt make this stupid Sbahn now
20:58:59  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol
20:59:05  <PublicServer> <avdg> we need more people online
20:59:06  <Mark> please read
20:59:24  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i read that ages ago mark
20:59:30  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I am still confused
20:59:35  <Mark> im not talking to you
20:59:37  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> about what?
20:59:41  <Mark> Ammler: about?
21:00:38  <PublicServer> <Mark> woot 800k...
21:00:47  <Ammler> chris, we fill up the network from out to inner?
21:00:50  <Ammler> is that wanted?
21:00:58  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yes
21:02:00  <Ammler> maybe it is indeed better to have same direction for all rows
21:02:19  <Ammler> :-)
21:02:20  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i like it how it is now
21:02:24  <PublicServer> <Mark> we should do a 256*512 flat map with 18 towns on a grid
21:02:57  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> nice the farm in the town
21:03:01  <PublicServer> * Mark makes a map
21:03:34  <PublicServer> <Mark> now its gone
21:03:35  <mensi> Sliggleswell South looks like a PCB with SMD resistors
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21:03:40  <mensi> (on the minimap)
21:03:53  <PublicServer> <Mark> if you say so :P
21:04:11  <mensi> ;)
21:04:21  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> my side si done then
21:04:42  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ammler you need overflows on your side
21:05:08  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> it looks strange
21:05:28  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> what over flows?
21:05:29  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> a train should just go to the next row, instead ot overflow
21:05:33  <WebIRC-15> Excuse me, is there a pack with the custom GRF's needed for the server? Some of them wont download ingame, or am I gonna have to go searching :o
21:05:50  <PublicServer> <Mark> then you need much more capacity
21:05:56  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no each row will ahve an entrence way point
21:06:00  <Mark> !grf
21:06:00  <PublicServer> Mark: (Version 7.3)
21:06:02  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and its own set of trains
21:06:06  <Ammler> WebIRC-15: type !password
21:06:19  <Mark> no, type !gpf
21:06:22  <Mark> grf
21:06:24  <Mark> gnah
21:06:30  <Booth> !grf
21:06:30  <PublicServer> Booth: (Version 7.3)
21:06:36  <KenjiE20> @wiki Quickstart
21:06:36  <Booth> download those
21:06:36  <Cooper>
21:06:38  <KenjiE20> ^
21:06:42  <PublicServer> *** Mark #1 has left the game (connection lost)
21:06:45  <WebIRC-15> Thanks
21:06:54  <Ammler> I had another reason to suggest !password ;-)
21:06:56  <PublicServer> *** phatmatt has left the game (connection lost)
21:07:20  <WebIRC-15> How do I change my IRC nick
21:07:31  <Ammler> type !password
21:07:35  <Booth> "/nick "younamehere"
21:07:40  *** WebIRC-15 is now known as Shif7
21:07:42  <Shif7> :D
21:07:46  <Shif7> !password
21:07:46  <PublicServer> Shif7: rogues
21:07:52  <Booth> lol
21:07:52  <PublicServer> *** Mark #1 has left the game (connection lost)
21:07:56  <Ammler> Shif7: too late
21:08:10  <Booth> ammler is you r answer to everything !password
21:08:31  <Shif7> Okay, I haven't put .GRFs into OTTD in a long time since I haven't played in a while
21:08:41  <Ammler> no, just for WebIRC user
21:08:49  <Shif7> Do I just put the parent fodler that's in the .RAR inside my Data folder?
21:08:53  <Shif7> folder*
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21:09:26  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yes
21:10:03  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> or in teh openttd my document directoiry if you use windows
21:10:32  <Shif7> What difference does it make if it's in My Documents?
21:10:48  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> none
21:10:58  <Ammler> you can use the data for other builds too
21:10:59  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> just mean you can use more than one version
21:11:00  <Ammler> like 0.7
21:11:17  <PublicServer> <avdg> commandline?
21:11:34  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i have to go for a bit
21:11:36  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> be back laters
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21:13:11  <Shif7> How do I get the Nightly that the server is using?
21:13:30  <Shif7> !dl lin Win32
21:13:30  <PublicServer> Shif7:
21:13:30  <Ammler> did you read the quickstart?
21:13:35  <Shif7> There we go
21:13:35  <Shif7> :V
21:13:55  <davis-> irc bots are something amazing :p
21:14:36  <Shif7> Hmmm.....
21:14:43  <Shif7> What one would I need for Windows XP
21:15:14  <PublicServer> <avdg> :/ cant drag drop orders
21:15:42  <Shif7> Does anyone know what IRC command I would need to use to get the WindowsXP compatable nightly?
21:16:06  <Ammler> !tell Shif7 about !dl
21:16:06  <PublicServer> Shif7: !dl autostart|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x
21:16:07  <PublicServer> <avdg> win32?
21:16:31  *** FHS has quit IRC
21:16:40  <Shif7> I tried Win32 but the OTTD file in it wasn't being recognized
21:16:55  <Ammler> don't you see the difference?
21:17:12  <Shif7> This is confusing me
21:17:13  <Shif7> D:
21:17:32  <Ammler> !tell Shif7 about !dl win32
21:17:32  <PublicServer> Shif7:
21:17:57  <Shif7> :/
21:18:28  <Mark> lin = linux, win = windows
21:18:37  <Mark> makes sense
21:18:53  <Mark> dl = download
21:18:55  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol, i ordered the new ubuntu release :p
21:19:01  <Ammler> win != Win
21:19:41  <Mark> i should get ubuntu too but im too lazy to get used to it
21:20:39  <PublicServer> <avdg> i have that too... but since the troubles on my laptop
21:20:48  <PublicServer> <avdg> i had tryed linux again
21:20:50  <Ammler> yeah, it need time to get it, but then you will be too lazy to install win.
21:21:17  <Mark> i got the cd lying on my desk :P
21:21:18  <PublicServer> <avdg> im not sure... i have a hard drive now
21:21:25  <PublicServer> <avdg> external hard drive
21:21:45  <PublicServer> <avdg> but i need a portable now :p
21:21:52  <mensi> why would you order an ubuntu cd?
21:22:03  <PublicServer> <avdg> since i have download limits
21:22:16  <mensi> uh
21:22:18  <mensi> uncool
21:22:19  <Mark> that sucks
21:22:25  <PublicServer> <avdg> and 700 mb windows updates left
21:22:30  <Shif7> Guys, in the GRF pack I downloaded, what files should be seperately placed in the Data folder?
21:22:36  <PublicServer> <avdg> .net and office :/
21:22:37  <Mark> belgium is really strict on that right?
21:22:48  <PublicServer> <avdg> yeah... but im waiting for dommel
21:22:50  <mensi> the SWITCH mirror is sitting 2 stories below my office at university, downloading is faster than bruning a CD
21:22:58  <PublicServer> <avdg> im living in 9000 gent.. thats city area
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21:23:08  <PublicServer> <avdg> but they dont offer cityconnect here :(
21:23:12  <Mark> Shif7: just unpack in /data
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21:23:19  <PublicServer> <avdg> its very cheap with no download limits
21:23:21  <Ammler> oh, ä Schwiizer :-)
21:23:31  <Mark> strange folks in belgium
21:23:39  <mensi> was wo?
21:23:40  <PublicServer> <davis> a bit of everything
21:23:47  <PublicServer> <avdg> but i have to pay 9€ to belgacom then
21:23:59  <PublicServer> <avdg> :(((((
21:24:02  <PublicServer> <avdg> cable rent
21:24:14  <Mark> im in a relative rural area but i have 10mbit/month for 15 euros
21:24:21  <Mark> and no limit
21:24:24  <Mark> uh
21:24:27  <PublicServer> <davis> D:
21:24:28  <PublicServer> <davis> nice
21:24:30  <Mark> mbit/sec
21:24:50  <PublicServer> <davis> dsl 6000 for me D:
21:24:52  <PublicServer> <avdg> yeah, belgium and the netherlands, for internet its not comparable
21:24:57  <PublicServer> <davis> wires in the house dont go with anything higher
21:25:10  <PublicServer> <avdg> its just the oposite
21:25:30  <Shif7> Guys, in the .Rar I downloaded for the server with all the custom GRF's in it, do I extract the single folder or the large number of folders and files inside that main folder?
21:25:42  <PublicServer> <davis> doesnt matter afaik
21:25:45  <mensi> Shif7, it doesn't really matter
21:26:03  <Shif7> Well howcome it keeps giving me GRF mismatches and wont let me join the server
21:26:03  <mensi> openttd searches for grf files below the data dir
21:26:04  <Shif7> D:
21:26:11  <mensi> restart openttd
21:26:18  <Mark> you need some from bananas
21:26:21  <PublicServer> *** FHS has left the game (connection lost)
21:26:32  <Mark> "check online content"
21:26:44  <PublicServer> <avdg> in the newgrf window
21:26:52  <KenjiE20> @wiki Quickstart
21:26:53  <KenjiE20> ^
21:26:53  <Cooper>
21:26:56  <PublicServer> <davis> iam amazed how helpfull we are
21:26:59  <Mark> or when joining the server
21:27:25  <Shif7> This has gotten much more confusing since the last time I played :<
21:27:39  <mensi> is there any policy on orders of ICE trains?
21:27:42  <Mark> we're a very newbie-friendly communitf :)
21:27:53  <mensi> (Trottingbridge West ICE hub is being fed)
21:28:00  <Mark> mensi: check the plan
21:28:09  <Mark> not to the same town
21:28:13  <PublicServer> <avdg> wow, many bribes, still appalling
21:28:15  <PublicServer> <avdg> :(
21:28:17  <Mark> only two orders
21:28:21  <PublicServer> <avdg> now too much bribed
21:28:43  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> too many unused stations
21:28:48  <PublicServer> <avdg> yeah
21:28:53  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> that drops the rating like hell
21:29:10  <PublicServer> <avdg> but 2 lines of hor are now full served
21:29:20  <PublicServer> <avdg> ver isnt finished
21:30:02  <mensi> oh oh
21:30:03  <Shif7> Is it possible for me to temporarily spectate when I get in? I needs to make me popcorns
21:30:04  <mensi> train limit
21:30:12  <Mark> !trains 1000
21:30:12  <PublicServer> *** Mark has set max_trains to 1000
21:30:16  <mensi> thx ;)
21:30:26  <Mark> Shif7: sure
21:30:41  <Shif7> Phew, didn't want to be a waste of space while I'm afk
21:30:54  <Mark> we got 255 slots :P
21:31:12  <Shif7> !password
21:31:13  <PublicServer> Shif7: gadget
21:31:30  <PublicServer> <davis> wasnt always like that tho :P
21:31:35  <PublicServer> <davis> i remember afk checks. haha
21:31:40  <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah
21:31:42  <Shif7> 255 seems like overkill
21:31:50  <Shif7> Just like on the RGB scale
21:31:51  <Shif7> :V
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21:31:59  <Shif7> :D
21:32:08  <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah, our record is like 25..
21:32:36  <PublicServer> <davis> once ottd goes commercial and hits the pc games charts.
21:32:41  <PublicServer> <davis> we'll need the 255 slots
21:32:44  <PublicServer> <Shif7> What does the term PAX mean? I'm no good with game terminology
21:32:45  <XeryusTC> !password
21:32:45  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: gadget
21:32:49  <PublicServer> <davis> passengers and mail
21:32:50  <PublicServer> <davis> i think
21:32:51  <PublicServer> <Mark> passengers
21:32:52  <KenjiE20> `pax
21:32:53  <Webster> PAX stand for Passengers and is, as an abbreviation, widely known and used in the transportation business.
21:32:55  <XeryusTC> passengers
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21:33:02  <PublicServer> <davis> just passengers. xD
21:33:05  <PublicServer> <Shif7> I see, thanks
21:33:06  <PublicServer> <Mark> X :)
21:33:14  <PublicServer> <Shif7> Anyway, to the microwave, awaaaaay
21:33:16  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> lulsz jam
21:33:21  <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah
21:33:27  <PublicServer> <Mark> killing some trains
21:33:32  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh :P
21:33:51  <PublicServer> <Mark> should have done that another way though
21:34:02  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i see some 30k pax waiting at stations though :P
21:34:07  <PublicServer> <avdg> my city is growing fast now :(
21:34:32  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> we we have a SRS-Bahn yet btw?
21:35:08  <PublicServer> <Mark> Sliggleswell is
21:35:13  <PublicServer> <Mark> more or less
21:35:15  <PublicServer> <Mark> i think
21:35:26  <PublicServer> <Mark> Trottingbridge also
21:36:00  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> Trottingbridge just has alot of stations :P
21:36:09  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> doesnt really seem intelligent
21:36:19  <PublicServer> <avdg> i dont feel like extending windybridge woods
21:36:30  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> except from the fact that trains only have 1 order
21:37:08  <PublicServer> <avdg> i have a trouble with 'ver'
21:37:21  <PublicServer> <avdg> waitingspace is 1 tile too small to use pbs
21:37:56  <PublicServer> <avdg> why do i detect that now?
21:38:18  <Mark> should be interesting
21:38:32  <Mark> its 512*256
21:39:03  <KenjiE20> oooooooooh
21:39:09  <PublicServer> <avdg> ?
21:39:12  <PublicServer> <avdg> what is it?
21:39:19  <Mark> a map
21:39:29  <KenjiE20> 3x6 town grid
21:39:29  <Mark> ss of a map even
21:40:00  <mensi> WTF? my trains have costs instead of earnings?
21:40:09  <Mark> should be able to cover the map with skyscrapers
21:40:27  <XeryusTC> mensi: downside of transfers
21:41:48  <PublicServer> *** Kenji joined the game
21:41:51  <PublicServer> <avdg> hi
21:41:58  <mensi> loads of trains are driving through windybridge south and don't load anything ?!?
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21:42:48  <PublicServer> <Mark> it doesnt accept pax
21:43:00  <PublicServer> <Mark> so trains dont unload
21:43:11  <mensi> aaah
21:43:16  <mensi> I see
21:43:24  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> Trottingbridge East doesnt accept a thing either
21:43:41  <PublicServer> <Mark> heh
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21:44:14  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm, this is imba
21:44:25  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> 250mil train income, 13mil loss
21:44:31  <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah
21:44:47  <PublicServer> <Mark> even with these ML trains :P
21:45:09  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> where loss = running costs btw
21:45:15  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> total loss was 25 mil :P
21:45:20  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> trains are too expensive it seem s:P
21:45:32  <PublicServer> <Mark> thats dbset
21:45:51  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> true
21:46:01  <Razaekel> the numbers really need to be adjusted
21:46:11  <PublicServer> <Shif7> Back
21:46:15  <Razaekel> so that running costs almost equal potential profits
21:46:25  <Razaekel> and trains end up bloody expensive
21:46:39  <PublicServer> <Shif7> I think I may be here a while learning techniques before I can join in :V
21:47:12  <PublicServer> <avdg> i need a terminal builder @ !pls connect this
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21:50:49  <mensi> hah now my trains make millions
21:51:32  <PublicServer> <avdg> no1 interested in building 1 of the last terminals?
21:52:03  <mensi> Trottingbridge North?
21:52:11  <mensi> you can build it if you want to ;)
21:52:13  <PublicServer> <avdg> windybridge woods
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21:52:24  <PublicServer> <avdg> im buzy to get some tracks ready
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21:55:08  <Godde> !tunnels 5 10
21:55:08  <PublicServer> Godde: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 5 and gap 10.
21:55:23  <Godde> !tunnels 5 23
21:55:23  <PublicServer> Godde: You need 4 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 5 and gap 23.
21:57:42  <Godde> !tunnels 2 100
21:57:42  <PublicServer> Godde: You need 25 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 2 and gap 100.
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21:59:09  <PublicServer> <avdg> lagg....
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22:15:28  <PublicServer> <avdg> why are signals so expensive?
22:15:29  <Thijs> !password
22:15:30  <PublicServer> Thijs: gloved
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22:15:47  <PublicServer> <avdg> 384 each
22:15:51  <PublicServer> <Thijs> Hi
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22:15:54  <PublicServer> <avdg> hi
22:15:57  <mensi> Thijs, I worked on Trottingbridge
22:16:09  <PublicServer> <Thijs> I see
22:16:16  <mensi> but still needs N and S trasnfers
22:16:24  <PublicServer> <avdg> almost done with ver (im at 0.7 ver windybridge)
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22:16:36  <PublicServer> <Thijs> I will finish S transfer
22:16:48  <PublicServer> <Thijs> Have some time now
22:17:27  <PublicServer> <avdg> done
22:17:34  <PublicServer> <Thijs> so, 190k transported in rumblewell
22:17:57  <PublicServer> <Thijs> The game is still easy to connect to
22:18:06  <PublicServer> <Thijs> even though we have lots of trains
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22:20:36  <PublicServer> <avdg> who knows who was building @ windybridge woods?
22:20:51  <PublicServer> <avdg> almost the  last in the list
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22:26:12  <mensi> Thijs, you could also do the last few loops with a station rotated 90
22:26:24  <PublicServer> <Thijs> yeah, i could
22:26:31  <PublicServer> <Thijs> but i want to stich to the system
22:26:42  <PublicServer> <Thijs> see if it will work
22:31:44  <mensi> Thijs, you'll need about 2 * number of stations on loop trains
22:31:52  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol windybridge is growing fast without growth helps
22:32:58  <mensi> ah and in my experience you need penalties on the nearest 1 or 2 stations
22:33:05  <mensi> I used 3 PBS signals
22:33:15  <PublicServer> <Thijs> i see
22:33:38  <mensi> without them they just loop around the first station and don't go all the way into the city
22:36:05  <PublicServer> <avdg> the 'international' train, howmany platforms should it have at least?
22:36:22  <mensi> 11
22:36:41  <PublicServer> <avdg> counted for 1 track
22:36:48  <mensi> train is 22 cars long
22:36:54  <PublicServer> <avdg> yeah i know
22:37:00  <PublicServer> <avdg> but howmany platforms
22:37:01  <mensi> aaah
22:37:03  <mensi> platforms ;)
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22:37:07  <mensi> I did 4 or 5
22:37:08  <PublicServer> <avdg> :)
22:37:16  <PublicServer> <avdg> ok
22:37:39  <mensi> 5 on inner, 4 on outer
22:37:44  <PublicServer> <Thijs> looks better now
22:40:52  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> back
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22:41:11  <PublicServer> <avdg> :)
22:41:19  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> any want to be my slave?
22:41:27  <PublicServer> <avdg> i need some help @ windybridge woods
22:41:30  <PublicServer> <Thijs> ehm, no
22:41:44  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i need some help
22:41:46  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> aswell
22:41:51  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol
22:41:57  <mensi> Trottingbridge is growing faster than Rumblewell hrhr ;)
22:41:58  <PublicServer> <avdg> your good in terminals right?
22:42:06  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i am ok at them yes
22:42:07  <PublicServer> <avdg> much faster :)
22:42:24  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> what statin?
22:42:51  <PublicServer> <avdg> windybridge woods
22:43:49  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> aaah ok
22:44:09  <PublicServer> <avdg> i'll help some with automatication :)
22:44:14  <PublicServer> <avdg> at ttb
22:44:24  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> all vertical line need to terminate
22:44:29  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and go back out
22:45:42  <PublicServer> <avdg> maded plan :p
22:46:14  <PublicServer> <avdg> im not so good anymore in flexible building
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22:51:19  <PublicServer> <avdg> S E connections signalled
22:51:30  <PublicServer> <avdg> oh not done yet :(
22:51:51  <PublicServer> <avdg> now i think
22:52:54  <PublicServer> <avdg> :)
22:52:58  <PublicServer> <avdg> i get some help
22:53:15  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> you do
22:53:17  <PublicServer> <avdg> who is @ ttb s w 4-2
22:53:40  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i am at windy woods
22:54:30  <PublicServer> <avdg> oh :)
22:54:51  <PublicServer> <avdg> im helping some stuff to compensate chris tast :p
22:55:36  <mensi> praise to gods of trackers: 5min of great music in 1MB ;)
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22:55:52  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol
22:56:35  <mensi> especially the guys that made the UT99 soundtrack ;)
22:57:01  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> all the UT soundtracks are simply awesome
22:57:21  <mensi> yep
22:57:35  <mensi> Forgone Destruction is a great one... nice ambient DnB
23:00:07  <PublicServer> <avdg> wich side goes ttb w s 2 thijs?
23:00:18  <PublicServer> <avdg> oh
23:00:35  <PublicServer> <avdg> ok
23:00:58  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> windy woods drop is done
23:01:03  <PublicServer> <avdg> ty
23:03:02  <PublicServer> <avdg> ok i think sw is done
23:04:37  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol, who sended trains?
23:05:22  <PublicServer> <avdg> i stopped it
23:05:43  <PublicServer> <avdg> i do sme more...
23:05:47  <PublicServer> <avdg> some
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23:11:43  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol
23:11:45  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> lol
23:11:49  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> lol
23:12:10  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> how does that work?
23:12:19  <PublicServer> <avdg> go to the client list :p
23:12:36  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> lol
23:12:55  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> that
23:12:58  <PublicServer> <avdg> :)
23:13:00  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> that's very nice...
23:13:02  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> lol
23:13:27  <PublicServer> <avdg> why can we do that?
23:13:48  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> because it's just like any other multiplayer game
23:14:02  <PublicServer> <avdg> yeah, to the same company :(
23:14:07  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> you give the money to the company the player is a member of..
23:14:50  <PublicServer> <avdg> i add it on my list of most wanted hidden features :p
23:15:09  <PublicServer> <avdg> spending money to yourself :p
23:15:17  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> i want a way to clone a set number of trains
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23:17:49  <jaiks> !password
23:17:49  <PublicServer> jaiks: dabbed
23:18:47  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> windy woods is done
23:19:34  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> all i can say is i hope we never need a 4th line down there
23:19:43  <PublicServer> <avdg> :)
23:20:12  <PublicServer> <avdg> ty chris
23:21:45  <PublicServer> <avdg> wow, trottingbridge ice west
23:21:52  <PublicServer> <avdg> 28k waiting
23:22:02  <PublicServer> <avdg> 30
23:22:12  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 34
23:22:13  <PublicServer> <avdg> 33
23:22:22  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol
23:22:30  <PublicServer> <avdg> added some trains...
23:22:39  <PublicServer> <avdg> but didnt expectet that fast
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23:23:47  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i found a way to improve ttd road netwrok
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23:24:10  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> go to TTB n W4-1
23:24:27  <PublicServer> <avdg> yeah
23:24:36  <PublicServer> <avdg> :p
23:24:49  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> means builds will spread better
23:25:17  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> now the needs to be done to every single on of those
23:26:36  <PublicServer> <avdg> just these last 2
23:26:48  <PublicServer> <avdg> but the terminal is not done yet
23:27:41  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> that bridge is missing from hole town though
23:27:50  <PublicServer> <avdg> :( robotjob
23:28:20  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> any one fancy helping me in siggleswell?
23:28:51  <PublicServer> <avdg> i finish my last one
23:29:40  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> well there is alot to build in siggleswell
23:30:48  <PublicServer> <avdg> ..
23:30:57  <PublicServer> <avdg> done
23:31:09  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> every row need to be filled with stations
23:31:37  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol:p
23:31:57  <PublicServer> <avdg> nice design :)
23:32:03  <PublicServer> <avdg> compact + functional
23:32:10  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> needs to have the PBS as i have built
23:32:16  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and way points
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23:38:52  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i also need to work the over flow out
23:39:24  <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm
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23:43:58  <PublicServer> <avdg> i finish a bit at windy now
23:44:02  <PublicServer> <avdg> just adding trains
23:44:14  <PublicServer> <avdg> thats the last thing that it needs now
23:50:31  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i hope siggleswell works
23:50:49  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> I'm looking for where i may have screwed up to be sure i didn't..
23:51:43  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i dont think you will have
23:51:52  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> and theen we'll see how it goes with pax to help the flow with loading
23:52:08  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> you don't think wi will ave screwed up?
23:52:20  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> well, obviously i screw up the typing alot
23:52:36  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> lol
23:52:41  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> its not a hard design
23:53:09  <PublicServer> <avdg> here are adding trains not easy
23:53:55  <Razaekel> !password
23:53:55  <PublicServer> Razaekel: mosaic
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23:54:10  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> hey raz
23:54:24  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> now.. one thing... :P
23:54:38  <PublicServer> <avdg> 48 stations -> 24 trains
23:54:42  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> wwho's willing to be my slave and help me finish laying out the stations and roads?
23:55:00  <PublicServer> <avdg> windybridge is almost complete :)
23:55:19  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> oo, very nice job on windybridge
23:55:35  <PublicServer> <avdg> and its over 100k now :)
23:55:40  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> all you seem to need now is poeple and the trains to run them
23:56:07  <PublicServer> <avdg> i put only 1 train each station
23:56:12  <PublicServer> <avdg> max is 2
23:56:17  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol
23:56:27  <PublicServer> <avdg> not enough waitingspace
23:56:32  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> ah
23:56:49  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> see, mine is meant to upconvert waitingspace at a later date, on the new NE
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23:57:00  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> NW you upconvert stations
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23:57:47  <PublicServer> <avdg> wich station need more trains? windybridge needs new trains
23:58:45  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i am off to bed now
23:58:50  <PublicServer> <avdg> bye
23:58:51  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> night chris
23:59:03  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but sligglewell i have cut the roads out for the stations

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