Log for #openttdcoop on 25th June 2009:
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00:13:30  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> lower tf :)
00:14:26  <gleeb> !dl linux
00:14:26  <PublicServer> gleeb: unknown option "linux"
00:14:29  <gleeb> !dl lin32
00:14:29  <PublicServer> gleeb: unknown option "lin32"
00:14:34  <gleeb> !dl
00:14:35  <PublicServer> gleeb: !dl autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x
00:14:38  <gleeb> !dl lin
00:14:38  <PublicServer> gleeb:
00:14:39  <gleeb> ffs
00:14:47  <PublicServer> <Nichevo> yes?
00:16:52  <gleeb> Nothing :)
00:17:03  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> taco my tacos nothing :P
00:17:19  <gleeb> tacos?
00:17:29  <PublicServer> <Nichevo> yes please
00:17:40  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> you got me runnin' goin' out of my mind
00:18:31  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> only ELO is allowed to use synthesizers
00:18:47  <gleeb> !password
00:18:47  <PublicServer> gleeb: mealed
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00:19:12  <PublicServer> <Gleeb> shazaom
00:19:28  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> is that like rubber floam?
00:20:49  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> nvm
00:21:05  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> yeh, !plan
00:21:06  <PublicServer> <Nichevo> A diversion!
00:22:01  <PublicServer> <Gleeb> I'm always amazed at how many trains work on these networks.
00:22:07  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> 1024
00:22:15  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> 1000 - 1024
00:24:14  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> when signals on bridges & tunnels comes out, i'm going to do all straight-aways like that
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00:39:29  <PublicServer> <Nichevo> I fail
00:39:35  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> hi
00:39:45  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> it only takes 30 days to clear
00:39:56  <PublicServer> <Nichevo> gives me time to finish :P
00:40:03  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> there you go
00:40:11  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> you only have 24 days left
00:41:59  <gleeb> Do I hear the groans of someone crashing trains?
00:42:17  <PublicServer> <Nichevo> nothing to see here... *whistle*
00:42:28  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> it backed up all the way to print works drop
00:42:38  <PublicServer> <Nichevo> stress test!
00:42:49  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> okay, so its 60 days
00:43:06  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> last time we fly in mexicans to do the job
00:44:41  <PublicServer> <Nichevo> there.. Now I'm starting to get more pleased
00:44:48  <PublicServer> <Nichevo> it's even straight
00:46:46  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> can i make a sandbox?
00:47:08  <PublicServer> <Nichevo> It is possible
00:53:41  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> point of know return <3
00:53:51  <PublicServer> <Nichevo> where? :)
00:54:01  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> in the hearts and minds of us all
00:54:08  <PublicServer> <Nichevo> 'aight
00:54:23  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> kansas
00:54:32  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> oh that works so well
00:54:48  <PublicServer> <Nichevo> what does?
00:54:53  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> you asked where?
00:54:54  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> i say kansas
00:54:57  <PublicServer> <Nichevo> oh
00:55:08  <PublicServer> <Nichevo> So Kansas works?
00:55:17  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> kansas - point of know return
00:55:20  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> get it?
00:55:33  <PublicServer> <Nichevo> nope
00:55:48  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> Kansas - Point of Know Return
00:55:56  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> .mp3
00:56:11  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> ...
00:56:13  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle>
00:57:16  <PublicServer> <Nichevo> aha
00:57:27  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> pffrt
00:57:33  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> they have, like, one song
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00:58:52  <HDIEagle> ?
00:59:04  <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players)
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00:59:20  <PublicServer> <Nichevo> stream killed my connection or something
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00:59:38  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> what hard drive you got?
00:59:47  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> sata II?
00:59:54  <nichevo> It's crap
01:00:04  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> ata 100?
01:00:08  <nichevo> you got it
01:00:14  <nichevo> 5400rpm
01:00:20  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> should be no problem
01:00:35  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> probably your ic or processor
01:00:47  <nichevo> or might be 4800
01:00:59  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> since everything would be loaded into ram
01:01:06  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> unless you have 512mb or less
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01:01:26  <nichevo> ah.. I remember
01:01:38  <HDIEagle> remember what?
01:01:43  <nichevo> I loaded the realtime kernel, so throughput might suffer quite a bit
01:06:41  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> why is this song 9 minutes long
01:06:56  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> and thats only 23% of it...
01:15:54  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> yeh, if you aren't ELO, you shouldn't be messing with synthesizers
01:16:07  <nichevo> ELO?
01:16:17  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> electric light orchestra
01:32:02  <PublicServer> <Nichevo> whatcha doing?
01:32:16  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> staring blindly into space
01:32:39  <PublicServer> <Nichevo> that's nice
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01:39:25  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> wanna fuck?
01:39:28  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> i mean...something up?
01:39:45  <PublicServer> <Nichevo> not really, and not really :)
01:40:05  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> level bbh05 and start from scratch?
01:40:32  <PublicServer> <Nichevo> I'd rather start all from scratch tomorrow or the day after tomorrow
01:41:02  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> pick a number 1-10
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01:41:31  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> go on
01:41:39  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> it'll be fun
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01:47:24  <HDIEagle> oh hi
01:47:39  <HDIEagle> XeryusTC
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02:10:01  <PeterT> !playercount
02:10:01  <PublicServer> PeterT: Number of players: 2
02:10:03  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> sometimes its like doubling up slows everything down
02:10:03  <PeterT> !players
02:10:05  <PublicServer> PeterT: Client 309 (Orange) is HD1Eagle, in company 1 (OpenTTDCoop)
02:10:05  <PublicServer> PeterT: Client 319 (Orange) is Nichevo, in company 1 (OpenTTDCoop)
02:10:15  <PeterT> !password
02:10:15  <PublicServer> PeterT: abbeys
02:10:20  <PublicServer> <Nichevo> it can :)
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02:10:37  <PublicServer> <Peter> hey
02:10:51  <PublicServer> <Nichevo> hellu
02:10:55  <PublicServer> <Peter> where would be some good station designs for double entrences?
02:11:24  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> uh...want to sandbox?
02:11:39  <PublicServer> <Peter> hmm?
02:12:14  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> heres a sandbox
02:12:18  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> make a double slh
02:12:25  <nichevo> PeterT:
02:15:02  <PublicServer> <Peter> thanks
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02:18:04  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> this slh works in 5% of all cases
02:18:20  <PublicServer> <Nichevo> that's only 95% to go
02:18:24  <PublicServer> <Nichevo> where you at?
02:18:30  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> sandbox
02:18:35  <PublicServer> <Nichevo> oh
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02:20:59  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> DIIEEEEEEE
02:21:36  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> damnit
02:22:03  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> always make sandboxes below sea level
02:22:03  <PublicServer> <Peter> ok, im gonna practice the stations
02:22:05  <PublicServer> <Peter> thanks
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02:22:14  <HDIEagle> you can practice here
02:22:18  <HDIEagle> so we can give you advice
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02:23:00  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> lets play a game
02:23:05  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> i give a scenario, you build a SLH
02:23:32  <PublicServer> <Nichevo> I'm gonna go to bed
02:23:40  <PublicServer> <Nichevo> It's 4:32 AM
02:23:47  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> let me kill sandbox
02:23:52  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> k
02:23:55  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> 'night
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02:28:22  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> k, good night
02:28:27  <PublicServer> <Nichevo> nite
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02:56:13  <HDIEagle> !grf
02:56:14  <PublicServer> HDIEagle: (Version 7.3)
02:56:17  <HDIEagle> !help
02:56:17  <PublicServer> HDIEagle:
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06:19:57  <ZS> !password
06:19:57  <PublicServer> ZS: befall
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07:00:09  <HDIEagle> !players
07:00:10  <PublicServer> HDIEagle: There are currently no clients connected to the server
07:21:32  <ODM> poor eagle
07:30:41  <HDIEagle> gee wilikers ODM
07:31:47  <ODM> what?
07:31:53  <HDIEagle> :(
07:35:24  <ODM> im confused
07:35:28  <HDIEagle> :(
07:35:37  <ODM> yes that makes me draw that face
07:35:43  <HDIEagle> :?
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08:55:12  <HDIEagle> goodnight european doods
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10:13:08  <Booth> hello all
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10:28:19  <Yrol>  hello :o) does someone of you use the The North American Renewal Set (NARS2) from pikkawikki?  i havea question regarding the trainintroductiondates.
10:29:51  <Mark> just ask
10:30:01  <Mark> if anyone knows the answer he'll answer
10:30:19  <Yrol>
10:30:43  <Yrol> there are dates like A 1970+ and B 1970- without an ending date, where is the difference?
10:30:46  <Ammler> still no question :-)
10:30:58  <Mark> some will expire
10:31:02  <Mark> others will not
10:31:14  <Mark> the one with an ending date wont be available after that date
10:31:33  <Mark> unless you enable the patch option "vehicles never expire"
10:31:42  <Mark> ..which most people do :P
10:31:43  <Yrol> as i explained, i am not asking about those with an ending date :o)
10:31:56  <Mark> those without never expire..
10:32:18  <Mark> you asked about the difference
10:32:22  <Mark> not about any specific
10:32:35  <Mark> thougt the ones without ending dates to be obvious
10:32:37  <Yrol> well ,about the differnce between + and -, as outlined in my question-explanation
10:33:01  <Mark> ah that differece
10:33:56  <Mark> no idea actually :P
10:34:56  <Ammler> I would guess, none
10:35:20  <Mark> i would guess the same
10:36:28  <Mark> there actually were wood-powered steamers?
10:37:01  <Yrol> well, thanks then :o) °waves°
10:37:23  <Mark> i think the + might mean it's an upgrade
10:37:38  <Mark> and the - means it's final
10:39:52  <Ammler> Mark: true
10:40:10  <Ammler> as the plus is on those which have a final timespan as last.
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10:49:58  <Mark> Yrol: thank you for figuring that out
10:50:19  <Mark> oh he didnt say that?
10:50:24  <Mark> brb omelet time
10:53:51  <ODM> me wants
10:55:26  * Ammler don't
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11:24:56  <mensi> !playercount
11:24:56  <PublicServer> mensi: Number of players: 0
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11:29:52  <Ammler> mensi: would you use a CH translation of openttd?
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11:42:43  <mensi> hehe
11:42:46  <mensi> hmm don't think so
11:43:05  <mensi> das artet doch eh wieder us i wele dialekt und so
11:50:45  <Ammler> züri dütsch dängg
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12:05:19  <Booth> !password
12:05:19  <PublicServer> Booth: lotion
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12:10:35  <Mark> !password
12:10:35  <PublicServer> Mark: crispy
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12:12:14  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hi mark
12:12:18  <PublicServer> <Mark> hello
12:12:55  <PublicServer> <Mark> interesting how that piece of ML needs 4 tracks
12:13:19  <PublicServer> <Mark> in advance i thought the food plant to have way more trains
12:13:42  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> not realy wood always has more in artic
12:14:00  <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost)
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12:14:05  <PublicServer> <Mark> actually it has more to do with the forests being connected first
12:14:22  <PublicServer> <Mark> they looked inviting as there were many close to each other
12:14:28  <Booth> i was laging like a bitch
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12:16:03  <Mark> @stage Finishing
12:16:03  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #146 (r16621) | STAGE: Finishing | | Use !help for IRC-commands | Cargo Destinations at | Client record: 24 | Screenshots:"
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12:18:20  <Ammler> now, it is also time to prepare next game :-)
12:18:38  <Mark> ODM was working on that
12:19:24  <Ammler> @stage Finishing, waiting for ODMs scenario.
12:19:24  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #146 (r16621) | STAGE: Finishing, waiting for ODMs scenario. | | Use !help for IRC-commands | Cargo Destinations at | Client record: 24 | Screenshots:"
12:19:52  <Ammler> what kind is it?
12:20:44  <Mark> subtrop
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14:03:55  * Mark is going to make a new map
14:04:08  <Mark> unless someone comes up with one pretty soon i'll just load that one
14:11:43  <mensi> !playercount
14:11:43  <PublicServer> mensi: Number of players: 0
14:15:29  <Mark> !password
14:15:29  <PublicServer> Mark: outwit
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14:16:25  <Mark> !rcon save ps146
14:16:26  <PublicServer> Mark: Saving map...
14:16:26  <PublicServer> Mark: Map sucessfully saved to ps146.sav
14:19:25  <mensi> woohoo jinglehead forest produces 2097 tons
14:23:38  <Ammler> Mark: transfered ;-)
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14:23:47  <Mark> k
14:23:52  <Mark> done with the archive in a sec
14:23:55  <Mark> even added users :P
14:24:00  <Ammler> hehe
14:24:08  <Ammler> not me; I assume :-)
14:24:48  <Ammler> next a RV only game?
14:25:15  <Mark> uhm, no :P
14:25:21  <Ammler> :-) ok
14:25:35  <Mark> i'm not doing one of those again without a proper RV acceleration model
14:26:07  <Ammler> but the rv stop handling is better
14:26:48  <Mark> that was fine
14:27:03  <Mark> it's the 45km/h slowdowns at hills and turns that kills effeciency
14:27:18  <Ammler> no
14:27:28  <Ammler> most annoying was the loading/unloading
14:27:36  <Mark> not for me :P
14:28:04  <PublicServer> *** Mark has left the game (leaving)
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14:30:13  <Mark> !rcon ls
14:30:14  <PublicServer> Mark: 0) .. (Parent directory)
14:30:14  <PublicServer> Mark: 1) archive/ (Directory)
14:30:14  <PublicServer> Mark: 2) autosave/ (Directory)
14:30:14  <PublicServer> Mark: 3) uploads/ (Directory)
14:30:14  <PublicServer> Mark: 4) ps146.sav
14:30:14  <PublicServer> Mark: 5) game.sav
14:30:14  <PublicServer> Mark: 6) ps145.sav
14:30:16  <PublicServer> Mark: 7) PSG145.sav
14:30:16  <PublicServer> Mark: 8) testsave.sav
14:30:19  <PublicServer> Mark: 9) ps145fix.sav
14:30:19  <PublicServer> Mark: you have 18 more messages
14:30:23  <Mark> !rcon cd 3
14:30:24  <Mark> !rcon ls
14:30:24  <PublicServer> Mark: 0) .. (Parent directory)
14:30:24  <PublicServer> Mark: 1) archive/ (Directory)
14:30:24  <PublicServer> Mark: 2) somepsgstart.sav
14:30:24  <PublicServer> Mark: 3) psg146start.sav
14:30:25  <PublicServer> Mark: 4) 145start.sav
14:30:25  <PublicServer> Mark: 5) deepfried.sav
14:30:27  <PublicServer> Mark: 6) psg144start.sav
14:30:27  <PublicServer> Mark: 7) OpenTTDCoop Ltd., 11-01-1936.sav
14:30:29  <PublicServer> Mark: 8) OpenTTDCoop Ltd., 30-01-1936.sav
14:30:29  <PublicServer> Mark: 9) estuary.sav
14:30:31  <PublicServer> Mark: you have 5 more messages
14:30:32  <Mark> !rcon load 2
14:31:09  <Ammler> @nr 147
14:31:21  <planetmaker> @ms 148
14:31:22  <mensi> !password
14:31:22  <PublicServer> mensi: kayaks
14:31:33  <Ammler> ms?
14:31:44  <planetmaker> I just though I make a variation on your command :)
14:31:48  <KenjiE20> @help setpsg
14:31:48  <Webster> KenjiE20: (setpsg <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "topic change 2 s/PSG #\d+/PSG #/".
14:31:49  <planetmaker> no idea what you did. :P
14:32:06  <Mark> @setpsg 147
14:32:06  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #147 (r16621) | STAGE: Finishing, waiting for ODMs scenario. | | Use !help for IRC-commands | Cargo Destinations at | Client record: 24 | Screenshots:"
14:32:11  <Mark> @stage MM + Planning
14:32:11  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #147 (r16621) | STAGE: MM + Planning | | Use !help for IRC-commands | Cargo Destinations at | Client record: 24 | Screenshots:"
14:32:17  <Mark> hmm
14:32:22  <Mark> the server is not even online :P
14:32:28  <Ammler> @stage MM + Planning (ODM lost)
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14:32:33  <planetmaker> hm... this weather here starts to get annoying...
14:32:34  <KenjiE20> lol
14:32:50  <Mark> !rcon "load 2"
14:32:50  <PublicServer> Mark: ERROR: command or variable not found
14:32:55  <planetmaker> it was so nice this morning and it continuously rains since ~14h local time
14:32:59  <Mark> !rcon ls
14:32:59  <PublicServer> Mark: 0) .. (Parent directory)
14:33:00  <PublicServer> Mark: 1) archive/ (Directory)
14:33:00  <PublicServer> Mark: 2) somepsgstart.sav
14:33:00  <PublicServer> Mark: 3) psg146start.sav
14:33:00  <PublicServer> Mark: 4) 145start.sav
14:33:00  <PublicServer> Mark: 5) deepfried.sav
14:33:00  <PublicServer> Mark: 6) psg144start.sav
14:33:02  <PublicServer> Mark: 7) OpenTTDCoop Ltd., 11-01-1936.sav
14:33:02  <PublicServer> Mark: 8) OpenTTDCoop Ltd., 30-01-1936.sav
14:33:04  <PublicServer> Mark: 9) estuary.sav
14:33:04  <PublicServer> Mark: you have 5 more messages
14:33:05  <Mark> !rcon load 2
14:33:07  <Ammler> maybe grf issues?
14:33:10  <Ammler> !info
14:33:10  <PublicServer> Ammler: ERROR: This command/variable is only available to a network server.
14:33:24  <Mark> works locally..
14:33:26  <Mark> will check though
14:33:27  <planetmaker> grf issue is the usual answer actually :)
14:33:33  <planetmaker> !content
14:33:43  <PublicServer> *** planetmaker has updated content from BaNaNaS.
14:33:49  <planetmaker> !rcon load 2
14:33:55  <planetmaker> !info
14:33:55  <PublicServer> planetmaker: ERROR: This command/variable is only available to a network server.
14:33:58  <planetmaker> hm.
14:33:58  <Ammler> he?
14:34:11  <Ammler> lurking...
14:34:16  <planetmaker> what?
14:34:30  <planetmaker> oh, sorry. it has to read WHAT?!
14:34:32  <planetmaker> :P
14:34:41  <Ammler> dbg: [net] getaddrinfo for hostname "", port 3979, address family either IPv4 or IPv6 and socket type tcp failed: Temporary failure in name resolution
14:35:04  <PublicServer> Server closed down by admin
14:35:07  <PublicServer> Server has exited
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14:35:25  <Mark> !rcon ls
14:35:29  <Mark> oh great
14:35:36  <Mark> could someone load somepsgstart2.sav?
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14:35:37  <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged
14:35:37  <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server ('
14:35:37  <PublicServer> @revision r16621
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14:35:37  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #147 (r16621) | STAGE: MM + Planning (ODM lost) | | Use !help for IRC-commands | Cargo Destinations at | Client record: 24 | Screenshots:"
14:35:53  <Ammler> !info
14:35:53  <PublicServer> Ammler: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'OTTDC'  Year Founded: 1970  Money: 99808  Loan: 100000  Value: 1  (T:0, R:0, P:0, S:0) unprotected
14:35:54  <Mark> !rcon ls
14:35:54  <PublicServer> Mark: 0) .. (Parent directory)
14:35:54  <PublicServer> Mark: 1) archive/ (Directory)
14:35:54  <PublicServer> Mark: 2) autosave/ (Directory)
14:35:54  <PublicServer> Mark: 3) uploads/ (Directory)
14:35:54  <PublicServer> Mark: 4) ps146.sav
14:35:56  <PublicServer> Mark: 5) game.sav
14:35:56  <PublicServer> Mark: 6) ps145.sav
14:35:58  <PublicServer> Mark: 7) PSG145.sav
14:35:58  <PublicServer> Mark: 8) testsave.sav
14:35:59  <Mark> !rcon cd 3
14:36:00  <PublicServer> Mark: 9) ps145fix.sav
14:36:00  <PublicServer> Mark: you have 18 more messages
14:36:06  <Ammler> Mark, I loaded it already
14:36:11  <Mark> oh ok
14:36:15  <Ammler> or isn't it the right?=
14:36:22  <Ammler> !url
14:36:22  <PublicServer> Ammler:
14:36:30  <Mark> !password
14:36:30  <PublicServer> Mark: itched
14:36:40  <PublicServer> *** Mark joined the game
14:36:42  <PublicServer> <Mark> i be in
14:37:07  <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players)
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14:37:28  <Ammler> Base Costs Mod 2.0beta2 <-- hehe
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14:37:52  <mensi> uuh a big one
14:38:01  <Ammler> useless, if you cheat money anyway ;-)
14:39:08  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> but a nice "default" map
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14:39:42  <Mark> @stage Planning
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14:39:51  <PublicServer> *** mensi has left the game (leaving)
14:39:52  <dangerdan> hi guys
14:40:01  <Ammler> DANGER
14:40:03  <PublicServer> <Mark> hello
14:40:29  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> oh, heya :-)
14:40:44  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> lol, MM done
14:40:49  <Mark> !rcon patch plane_speed 1
14:41:22  <PublicServer> <Mark> just have to add some planes
14:43:15  <Ammler> planetmaker: what does "FYI" mean?
14:43:28  <dangerdan> for your information
14:43:35  <PublicServer> <Mark> he asked planetmaker
14:43:39  <Ammler> :-D
14:43:41  <PublicServer> <Mark> your answer doesnt count
14:43:45  <dangerdan> 8C
14:44:32  <Ammler> I asked planetmaker, because he ueses it many times, and I never really thought about, what it means.
14:44:38  <planetmaker> hehe :P
14:45:03  <planetmaker> sorry, obviously some abbreviations crept into my language usage :P
14:45:05  <Ammler> but dangerdan seems to be right.
14:45:14  <planetmaker> l337 sp34k :P
14:45:18  <planetmaker> yes, he is.
14:45:20  <dangerdan> was only trying to help :P
14:45:40  <planetmaker> dangerously right...
14:45:45  <Ammler> help Mark, he needs it more. ;-)
14:45:47  <planetmaker> ... he may know too much ... hm...
14:45:49  <dangerdan> 8C
14:45:53  <Ammler> well, maybe not possible anymore.
14:46:01  <PublicServer> <Mark> help me?
14:46:09  <planetmaker> true.
14:46:10  <Ammler> impossible?
14:46:24  <Mark> !rcon patch town_growth_rate 0
14:54:30  <dangerdan> !password
14:54:30  <PublicServer> dangerdan: direst
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14:56:20  <dangerdan> busses and planes? :S
14:56:35  <PublicServer> <Mark> ssssh
14:56:37  <PublicServer> <Mark> dont tell ammler
14:56:41  <dangerdan> lol?
14:57:21  <PublicServer> <Mark> this is called MM
14:57:27  <PublicServer> <dangerDAN_> MM?
14:57:31  <PublicServer> <Mark> we make money while people make plans
14:57:36  <PublicServer> <Mark> then we vote for a plan
14:57:41  <PublicServer> <Mark> which is the final network
14:57:48  <PublicServer> <Mark> plan = network plan
14:57:51  <PublicServer> <dangerDAN_> but no one has made a plan yet? and its 1971?
14:58:04  <PublicServer> <Mark> contains a ML layout and some important data
14:58:08  <PublicServer> <Mark> we started in 1970
14:58:13  <PublicServer> <dangerDAN_> lol kk
14:58:14  <PublicServer> <Mark> about 10 minutes ago
14:58:54  <PublicServer> <dangerDAN_> sorry im kinda new to this only really play coop with my mate
14:59:11  <PublicServer> <dangerDAN_> i know how to play tho
15:01:17  <PublicServer> <Mark> if you also know how to play by our rules you should be fine then
15:01:30  <PublicServer> <dangerDAN_> yeh i read your wiki all the time
15:01:41  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> hehe
15:01:46  <PublicServer> <dangerDAN_> usually have it open in second window :P
15:02:25  <PublicServer> <dangerDAN_> id make a plan but it'd be shit
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15:02:54  <PublicServer> <Mark> just make it
15:02:58  <PublicServer> <Mark> what do you have to lose?
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15:03:31  <dangerdan> nothing really but i dont really know how to, you just make stations and tracks near where it says !!network plans?
15:03:39  <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah
15:03:52  <PublicServer> <Mark> you basically make a schemetical minature version of the plan you have in mind
15:03:54  <dangerdan> what should be the main point? connecting up two big industries?
15:04:03  <gleeb> !dl lin
15:04:03  <PublicServer> gleeb:
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15:04:14  <Kangoo> !password
15:04:14  <PublicServer> Kangoo: direst
15:04:14  <Chris_Booth> !dl
15:04:14  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: !dl autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x
15:04:22  <Chris_Booth> !dl autostart
15:04:23  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth:
15:04:30  <PublicServer> <Mark> usually people put main stations and ML layouts in their plans
15:04:31  <planetmaker> heya Chris_Booth :)
15:04:53  <PublicServer> <Mark> and some information on ML width, train length, special condititons..
15:05:00  <Chris_Booth> hello all
15:05:05  <PublicServer> <dangerDAN_> o someones doing one
15:05:08  <Chris_Booth> !dl autoupdate
15:05:08  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth:
15:05:09  <PublicServer> <dangerDAN_> ill watch n learn lol
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15:05:51  <planetmaker> hehe... there are so many auto* things already...
15:05:55  <Chris_Booth> i am going to play more in this game
15:06:14  <planetmaker> !info
15:06:14  <PublicServer> planetmaker: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'OTTDC'  Year Founded: 1970  Money: 6740517  Loan: 0  Value: 8592238  (T:0, R:35, P:10, S:0) unprotected
15:06:18  <planetmaker> hm...
15:06:20  <PublicServer> <Mark> there's a basic example plan
15:06:23  <Kangoo> !password
15:06:23  <PublicServer> Kangoo: cloaks
15:06:27  <PublicServer> <Mark> something like that is fine
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15:06:57  <dangerdan> what are secondary trains?
15:07:20  <planetmaker> good question :)
15:07:40  <PublicServer> <dangerDAN_> trains on sidelines?
15:07:54  <Chris_Booth> !passwrod
15:07:57  <Chris_Booth> !password
15:07:57  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: cloaks
15:08:02  <PublicServer> <Mark> trains transporting processed goods
15:08:08  <PublicServer> <Mark> goods and steel in this case
15:08:12  <PublicServer> <dangerDAN_> ic
15:08:25  <PublicServer> <Mark> ie trains transporting cargo produced by a secondary industry
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15:08:44  <PublicServer> <Mark> we also like to call those 1st tier and 2nd tier
15:08:52  <PublicServer> <dangerDAN_> k awesome
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15:09:19  <PublicServer> <Mark> i'll kill that example plan now or someone might actually vote for it
15:10:26  <dangerdan> lol
15:10:51  <PublicServer> <Mark> that happened before: "hmm i like that plan, whose is it?"
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15:15:03  <Chris_Booth_> !password
15:15:03  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth_: cloaks
15:15:08  <planetmaker> hehe... wifi?
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15:16:22  <PublicServer> <Mark> uh-oh
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15:16:54  <satyap> I have a model with attr_accessor :tree_id. I want a has_many :nodes, :through relation with conditions => ['tree_id=?', self.tree_id] How do i do that? so I can do m=Model.find(:first); m.tree_id=2; m.nodes --> returns nodes with tree_id=2?
15:16:58  <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost)
15:17:03  <satyap> WRONG channel. /me idiot
15:17:06  <Mark> satyap: yes
15:17:19  <booth> !password
15:17:19  <PublicServer> booth: cloaks
15:17:43  <satyap> sorry. i came in here to say I ran openttd over an ssh X forward, and all i got was a blank screen
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15:18:02  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> ho
15:18:19  <PublicServer> <Mark> ha
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15:18:58  <satyap> btw i have an L_L_R_R ML, and a T-junction to an L_R sideline. am I complicating it too much if the junction is 36 tiles long and about 40 tiles tall?
15:19:06  <satyap> (yeah, i know, show a screenie)
15:19:31  <Mark> depends on TL, CL, trainspeed, traffic level, TF
15:19:48  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> one dimension sounds a bit big. The other with joiners is fine IMO
15:20:06  <Mark> if you have TL30 it's pretty tiny
15:20:26  <satyap> TL7, CL=i don't know, should be 7 i think, trainspeed 177km/h, no traffic yet, an no TF (flat map)
15:21:03  <KenjiE20> @traincl 177
15:21:03  <Webster> CL 5.65153077165 required for rail at speed 177km/h (or TL if it's shorter)
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15:21:06  <Mark> if it's fully balanced and doubled bridges, it's not that big
15:21:08  <mensi> !password
15:21:08  <PublicServer> mensi: doting
15:21:14  <satyap> ah, thanks
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15:21:44  <satyap> holy cow there's a cl calculator? coool
15:21:54  <KenjiE20> there is now :)
15:22:01  <satyap> i'm not sure it's balance, but bridges are doubled
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15:22:57  <mensi> who did the inverse nazi network plan?
15:23:12  <PublicServer> <Gleeb> You should read the name.
15:23:18  <mensi> ah ;)
15:23:20  <PublicServer> <Gleeb> Also, it's not a nazi symbol.
15:23:23  <satyap> inverse nazi? oy. i'd like to see that (morbid fascination)
15:23:28  <PublicServer> <Gleeb> It's a hindu symbol.
15:23:32  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> gleeb yeah... just wrong way around ;)
15:23:34  <satyap> but i'd have to go download a new version. such a pain, no? :)
15:24:10  <mensi> I know, it's a lot...
15:24:11  <Webster> Title: Swastika - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at
15:24:11  <PublicServer> <Gleeb> It's based on the H-plan that I came up with ;)
15:24:12  <mensi> buuut
15:24:25  <mensi> that doesn't change the fact that your first thought is "nazi" when you see it
15:24:39  <PublicServer> <Mark> we've had that layout many times before
15:24:43  <PublicServer> <Gleeb> That's because people have a silly fascination with hitler.
15:25:05  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i have the winning plan
15:25:40  <PublicServer> <Mark> LR ML?
15:25:53  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> we need some fun for expansion
15:26:11  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> plus all goods will be on maglev lines
15:26:20  * satyap is itching to get back into the multiplayer scene
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15:26:31  <satyap> but i don't want to screw up my current installation
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15:27:09  <mensi> "screw up your current installation" ?
15:27:10  <Chris_Booth> then make 2 installs
15:27:22  <Chris_Booth> copy the files in a directory call openttd2
15:27:24  <PublicServer> <Gleeb> See, I was gonna go for that, PM :P
15:27:24  <mensi> I have 11 installs
15:27:24  <Chris_Booth> or something
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15:28:06  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> that might be excessive
15:28:08  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 11 installs
15:28:11  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> why?
15:28:23  <satyap> haha, 11
15:28:41  <satyap> yeah i'm afraid of it overwriting the .openttd/openttd.cfg file with incompatible stuff
15:28:47  <satyap> i'm sure i can work around it
15:28:54  <satyap> but that conflicts with my lazy streak
15:29:40  <satyap> this is entirely my problem, i admit
15:30:03  <nichevo> !password
15:30:03  <PublicServer> nichevo: doting
15:30:03  <Mark> i have 14 installs and issues with my openttd.cfg at all
15:30:08  <Mark> and no*
15:30:41  <PublicServer> <Gleeb> I have SO many installs, it's silly. I use the same cfg in 2 different OSes.
15:30:50  <PublicServer> <Gleeb> No problems here.
15:30:58  <satyap> interesting
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15:31:45  <mensi> just copy your data stuff into your ~/.openttd or My Documents\OpenTTD and have as many openttd installs as you want
15:31:46  <satyap> i guess i could put the cfg into version control and sto pworrying about it
15:31:54  <mensi> just download the archive and unpack
15:31:57  <PublicServer> <Nichevo> good afternoon
15:32:10  <PublicServer> <Mark> hello
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15:32:33  <PublicServer> <Mark> planetm4ker: i'm dying to find out if that outer loop is oneway or twoway :P
15:32:39  <satyap> !dlin
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15:32:52  <PublicServer> <Gleeb> I'm guessing 1-way.
15:33:02  <PublicServer> <Gleeb> But thetrack layout suggests 2-way.
15:33:29  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> we should have a1 way 2 way guessing board
15:33:34  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> its like a voting board
15:33:36  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but we guess
15:34:13  <mensi> !password
15:34:14  <PublicServer> mensi: doting
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15:34:43  <PublicServer> <Nichevo> chris: two seperate networks, then?
15:36:15  <satyap> dlin
15:36:20  * satyap pokes the bot
15:36:30  <Booth> !dl lin
15:36:30  <PublicServer> Booth:
15:36:35  <Booth> try that one
15:36:36  <satyap> ah thanks
15:36:47  <Booth> or !dl lin64
15:36:52  <Booth> !dl lin64
15:36:52  <PublicServer> Booth:
15:37:08  <satyap> oy, i should've got the 64
15:37:28  * satyap tries the other one anyway
15:39:06  <ODM> !password
15:39:06  <PublicServer> ODM: chatty
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15:39:12  <PublicServer> <Gleeb> Is this OpenGFX?
15:39:18  <PublicServer> <Mark> no
15:39:22  <PublicServer> <Nichevo> I like the trees!
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15:39:30  <PublicServer> <0DM> stolentrees
15:39:41  <PublicServer> <Gleeb> What's with the coastline?
15:39:47  <PublicServer> <Mark> it's newwater
15:39:58  <PublicServer> <Gleeb> s'ugly
15:40:00  <PublicServer> <Nichevo> yup
15:40:09  <PublicServer> <Nichevo> the trees ought to be swaying
15:40:18  <PublicServer> <0DM> although i like the water itself more:p
15:40:27  <PublicServer> <Gleeb> I hate the water.
15:40:41  * satyap pokes ldconfig
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15:40:59  <satyap> yep, i'm still an idiot
15:41:03  * satyap grabs the 64 bit version
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15:42:59  <satyap> it's alive
15:43:49  * satyap likes the online content thing
15:44:22  <satyap> !grf
15:44:22  <PublicServer> satyap: (Version 7.3)
15:44:26  <PublicServer> * Nichevo wants pax for sure
15:44:40  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i have pax in my plan
15:44:45  <PublicServer> <Nichevo> I know :)
15:44:48  <PublicServer> <Mark> nasty
15:44:56  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> not no the same network
15:45:07  <PublicServer> <Mark> after some 100 games you still didn't find out that doesn't work?
15:45:19  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> it works
15:45:26  <PublicServer> <Mark> never has
15:45:35  <PublicServer> <Nichevo> Mark: what doesn't?
15:45:36  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i have a saved game to prove it
15:45:41  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> one i have been playing
15:45:51  <PublicServer> <Mark> Nichevo: pax and cargo on the same map
15:45:54  <satyap> hm, why don't i have the right grfs? i'm using the ottdcoop grf pack 7.3
15:45:58  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> they do
15:46:01  <PublicServer> <Mark> may worx in SP but not here
15:46:02  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> just not on the same network
15:46:11  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> check your bananas
15:46:13  <PublicServer> <Mark> all right as you wish
15:46:30  <PublicServer> <Gleeb> I find pax NEVER works on the cargo nwtwork without dedicated track.
15:46:36  <PublicServer> <Gleeb> Too much demand.
15:46:38  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> mark why wouldnt it work?
15:46:39  <satyap> yeah pax needs dedicated track
15:46:50  <satyap> in my single games i often put in pax but it's only an add-on
15:46:56  <PublicServer> <Nichevo> isn't that what Chris is proposing?
15:46:58  <PublicServer> <Mark> because people focus on either half of the plan and negclect the other
15:47:03  <PublicServer> <Nichevo> ok
15:47:12  <KenjiE20> <Mark> because people focus on either half of the plan and negclect the other <-- this
15:47:14  <satyap> i just played a single game with road vehicles. trains as after-thought. it sucked. but i got one cityup to 50k :)
15:47:40  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> aaah a 5-k city
15:47:47  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 50k i mean
15:48:02  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> we have had a city of over a million on thius server
15:48:25  <gleeb> Just a million? pfft
15:48:31  <satyap> i figured 50k would be tiny by your standards :)
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15:48:45  <satyap> mind, this was with trams and planes
15:49:03  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> gleeb on coop i think 1.xx million is the bigest we have had
15:49:03  <satyap> anyway, where can i get the grfs for this game?
15:49:11  <PublicServer> <Mark> you could grow a town to well over 500k using a single vehicle
15:49:12  <Ammler> !grf
15:49:12  <PublicServer> Ammler: (Version 7.3)
15:49:20  <PublicServer> <Mark> a single RV that is
15:49:25  <Ammler> satyap: read ^
15:49:30  <satyap> thanks
15:49:36  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> satyap check your bananas
15:49:49  <PublicServer> <Mark> this game doesnt require bananas newgrfs
15:50:07  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> bananas will have them though wont it?
15:50:12  <PublicServer> <Mark> dunno
15:50:15  <PublicServer> <Mark> probably not al
15:50:25  <satyap> hmm i already have the 7.3 pack
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15:50:48  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> what grf are you missing?
15:50:58  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> check the list manualy
15:51:07  <satyap> several, the one i remember is stolen trees
15:51:16  <satyap> i am now checking out 7.3 via svn into the local data directory
15:51:18  <Ammler> then, you don't have the pack
15:51:23  <Ammler> maybe you need to restart
15:51:27  <satyap> i already had it somewhere in /usr/share/blah/...
15:51:54  <Ammler> if you start with -d misc=3 (?)
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15:52:01  <satyap> svn co in progress
15:52:02  <Ammler> you see where openttd is looking for data
15:52:09  <satyap> i'll do that
15:52:26  <Ammler> I once blogged about ;-)
15:52:44  <PublicServer> <Nichevo> Chris, what is BBH2?
15:53:11  <Ammler> @wiki naming
15:53:14  <Webster> Naming conventions - #openttdcoop Wiki -
15:53:28  * satyap lols slightly at the mangoness of someone besides me
15:53:32  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no it was me
15:53:36  <PublicServer> <Nichevo> it's purpose rather
15:53:38  <PublicServer> <Nichevo> ok
15:53:45  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i put a wrong lable
15:53:52  <PublicServer> <Nichevo> :)
15:53:58  <satyap> !password
15:53:58  <PublicServer> satyap: entrap
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15:54:42  <PublicServer> <Nichevo> Did people say developing two networks in parallell doesn't tend to pan out?
15:55:02  <PublicServer> <Mark> yes
15:55:08  <PublicServer> <Gleeb> Yes. People tend to only pay attention to one.
15:55:09  <PublicServer> <Mark> i said that
15:55:12  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> mark says it
15:55:19  <PublicServer> <Mark> Chris Booth disagrees
15:55:25  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i do
15:55:26  <KenjiE20> I agree with MArk
15:55:29  <PublicServer> <Mark> because he made a SP game where it does work
15:55:36  <PublicServer> <Mark> which is completely irellevant
15:55:39  <PublicServer> *** Mark has joined spectators
15:55:41  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no
15:55:41  <satyap> i guess it wasn't looking at the system grf.
15:55:43  <PublicServer> <Mark> pizza now
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15:55:59  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> the relavance is that a plan / game is not finished until everything is complete
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15:56:48  <PublicServer> <Nichevo> if the cargo was to be developed first it would take great discipline to leave enough room, I guess
15:57:27  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> this is the good thing about coop
15:57:32  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> if you dont like ti dont vote for it
15:58:16  <PublicServer> <Nichevo> I like it, but I don't have the experience to back it up  :)
15:58:43  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> everyone get a vote
15:58:52  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> BTW that comment was aimed at mark
16:00:59  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i would advise you a vote for me when voting starts is mostlikly a wasted vote
16:01:10  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i only ever plan for a laugh
16:01:16  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> never to win
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16:02:14  <PublicServer> <Nichevo> the terrain seem very forgiving
16:02:38  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> for once it is
16:02:45  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but that doesnt make it easy
16:11:23  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> anyone fancy h 2 h tonight?
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16:23:34  <dangerdan> !password
16:23:34  <PublicServer> dangerdan: thresh
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16:24:21  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> player please change you name
16:24:38  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> open the console
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16:24:54  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and type: name"your name here"
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16:25:06  <Kangoo> !password
16:25:06  <PublicServer> Kangoo: thresh
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16:25:31  <PublicServer> <ChaseMonkey> hey guys
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16:26:26  <PublicServer> <dangerDAN_> we still not decided on a plan?
16:28:20  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> we need a voting bored
16:28:26  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> make a voting bored and vote
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16:31:39  <PublicServer> <Gleeb> Mensi, you online?
16:32:28  <dangerdan> how are those busses in lumpywell woods making 60k+ each??
16:32:35  <dangerdan> sorry im noob :P
16:32:47  <PublicServer> <Nichevo> cheating!
16:32:49  <Booth> aaah we a=call it teleporting
16:32:50  <PublicServer> <Gleeb> 1337 hax
16:32:57  <Booth> not realy
16:33:07  <dangerdan> lol? is that something to do with fake stations?
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16:33:11  <Booth> look at the distance between the 2 stations signd
16:33:32  <Booth> you transport something 128 tiles in 2 seconds
16:33:54  <dangerdan> how do you connect those stations to the bus stops in the middle though?
16:34:09  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> build a station
16:34:14  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and then press control
16:34:27  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> while pressing ctrl build a new staion
16:34:33  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> a window will pop up
16:34:41  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> select from the list
16:34:56  <dangerdan> omfg
16:34:57  <dangerdan> i c
16:43:20  <KenjiE20> ?: stationwalk
16:43:20  <Webster> The act of creating a station in two spots by adding and removing connecting sections, see:
16:43:24  <KenjiE20> ^
16:50:31  <dangerdan> when are we gonna vote for plans?
16:50:58  <KenjiE20> @qiki quickstart
16:51:00  <KenjiE20> @wiki quickstart
16:51:03  <KenjiE20> >_>
16:51:05  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki -
16:51:26  <KenjiE20> ^ that shows 'what to expect and for how long' for each game stage
16:52:19  <KenjiE20> which apparantly is missing a timeframe for voting
16:52:23  <KenjiE20> typicall
16:52:28  <KenjiE20> -l
16:57:31  <Mark> :)
16:57:34  <Mark> hello again
16:58:28  <PublicServer> * Mark wonders where pm's town drop will be
16:59:34  <PublicServer> <Nichevo> and Gleeb?
17:01:41  <PublicServer> <Mark> i assume Gleeb's to be at the hub
17:02:00  <PublicServer> <Mark> no idea what the hub is for otherwise
17:02:31  <PublicServer> <Mark> that voting board is going te be a pain to remove :P
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17:03:30  <PublicServer> <Kangoo> when I think of it, it wasn't that fun to put up either.. xD
17:03:34  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i am off now
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17:04:16  <ODM> anyone here with a wiki account without special powers? a user so to say?
17:04:27  <ODM> who doesnt mind helping me a bit:)
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17:05:05  <ZS> !password
17:05:06  <PublicServer> ZS: egoism
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17:06:59  <PublicServer> <Mark> i'm just going to put up my SRNW SML plan again
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17:26:03  <PublicServer> <tneo> stop waisting the landscape elo
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17:27:33  <PublicServer> <Mark> yay i made a ring of signs
17:27:42  <PublicServer> <tneo> yeah
17:27:49  <PublicServer> <tneo> complex plan
17:28:10  <PublicServer> <Mark> it's pretty straight forward once you get the idea :P
17:28:27  <PublicServer> <Mark> it's hard to explain the idea because it has some unconventional elements though
17:28:48  <PublicServer> <Mark> still not sure someone would understand it
17:28:56  <PublicServer> <Mark> basically i'm merging game 65 and 121
17:30:36  <PublicServer> <Mark> dont mess with my plan
17:30:40  <PublicServer> <Mark> or any plan for that matter
17:31:07  <[com]buster> !password
17:31:07  <PublicServer> [com]buster: swings
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17:31:20  <[com]buster> Lets see if I can make a more attractive plan
17:31:41  <PublicServer> <combuster> woot, flat map
17:32:43  <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah figured it has been a while :P
17:33:13  <Mark> !rcon kick 38
17:33:13  <PublicServer> Mark: *** dangerDAN_ has left the game (kicked by server)
17:33:36  <[com]buster> what, kicking?
17:33:43  <[com]buster> :p
17:33:45  <Mark> still messing about after a warning
17:33:52  <Mark> [19:30] <+PublicServer> <Mark> dont mess with my plan
17:33:52  <Mark> [19:30] <+PublicServer> <Mark> or any plan for that matter
17:33:57  <dangerdan> :(
17:34:02  <dangerdan> j bored
17:34:06  <Mark> and
17:34:08  <Mark> [19:26] <+PublicServer> <tneo> stop waisting the landscape elo
17:34:10  <PublicServer> <combuster> oh you mean that huge mountain that just popped up...
17:34:15  <hylje> !revision
17:34:15  <PublicServer> hylje: Game version is r16621
17:34:15  <dangerdan> that wasnt me mate
17:34:23  <dangerdan> nor the huge mountain
17:35:12  <Mark> you did place the heliport in my plan
17:35:16  <dangerdan> nicht
17:35:27  <dangerdan> the hq was me tho lol sry
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17:37:24  <PublicServer> <combuster> *** <noodleswig
17:37:33  <PublicServer> <combuster> denies plan building -_-
17:37:45  <PublicServer> <Mark> oioi
17:37:48  <PublicServer> <Mark> more SRNW
17:38:20  <dangerdan> !password
17:38:20  <PublicServer> dangerdan: harked
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17:38:45  <PublicServer> <tneo> there plan
17:39:03  <PublicServer> <Mark> 4-way BBHs with SML will be problematic
17:39:13  <PublicServer> <combuster> ...size issues
17:39:24  <PublicServer> <tneo> :-D
17:39:29  <PublicServer> <tneo> it is a big map
17:39:43  <PublicServer> <tneo> the rest it is simple
17:39:45  <PublicServer> <Mark> only 512^2 :P
17:39:57  <PublicServer> <tneo> o
17:40:06  <PublicServer> <tneo> thought 1024
17:40:35  <PublicServer> <tneo> in that case...
17:41:39  <PublicServer> <Mark> lots of plans though
17:41:42  <PublicServer> <Mark> like that
17:41:58  <PublicServer> <Mark> shall we do point-based voting?
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17:42:09  <hylje> !address
17:42:18  <hylje> !ip
17:42:18  <PublicServer> hylje:
17:42:59  <hylje> bah additional non-bananas grfs
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17:43:09  <Ammler> :-o
17:43:12  <Xaroth> hylje: try !dl autottd
17:43:16  <hylje> !grf
17:43:16  <PublicServer> hylje: (Version 7.3)
17:43:17  <Xaroth> and follow that guide
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17:43:22  <PublicServer> <Kangoo> Point based could be good thing concidering the amount of plans...
17:43:27  <Ammler> Mark said no bananas grfs
17:43:30  <[alt]buster> !password
17:43:30  <PublicServer> [alt]buster: harked
17:43:37  <hylje> my problem is that my openttd assets are omg old
17:43:38  <PublicServer> *** combuster joined the game
17:43:41  <Xaroth> !tell hylje about !dl autottd
17:43:41  <PublicServer> hylje:
17:43:56  <hylje> i just svn up'd openttd
17:44:02  <Xaroth> ah
17:44:03  <Xaroth> linux
17:44:05  * Xaroth shudders
17:44:23  <Ammler> hylje: autostart
17:44:34  <Ammler> then you have also the nice patchpack :-)
17:45:28  <Booth> i love these they are so cool >
17:45:29  <Webster> Title: Penrose triangle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at
17:45:34  <Ammler> well you can apply it also self:
17:46:25  <PublicServer> <Mark> let's stop planning?
17:46:34  <PublicServer> <Mark> we got a bit of everything already :P
17:47:49  <Booth> my plan it to make a penrose triangle
17:48:40  <Mark> !rcon kick 48
17:48:41  <PublicServer> Mark: *** dangerDAN_ has left the game (kicked by server)
17:48:45  <Mark> really, stop it
17:48:58  <hylje> !password
17:48:58  <PublicServer> hylje: harked
17:49:07  <dangerdan> im playing with the land not messing around with anyones plans :(
17:49:07  <PublicServer> *** Player joined the game
17:49:40  <PublicServer> <Player> why so flat
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17:49:45  <tneo> and we have a player!
17:49:48  <tneo> :P
17:50:19  <Ammler> I vote for hylje plan
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17:50:39  <[com]buster> i'm off
17:50:43  <Mark> cya
17:50:44  <[com]buster> hope you like my plan
17:50:52  <Ammler> [bye]buster
17:51:06  <Booth> i vote for penroses triangle
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17:52:00  <PublicServer> <hylje> nice MM
17:52:07  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> omg, what a voting table
17:53:09  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> Mark has too many signs for me :-)
17:53:12  <PublicServer> <hylje> how about that good old chaos
17:53:40  <Xaroth> !password
17:53:40  <PublicServer> Xaroth: trophy
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17:54:48  <Booth> !password
17:54:48  <PublicServer> Booth: trophy
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17:56:20  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> hylje: the voting table is full
17:56:28  <PublicServer> <hylje> nooooo
17:56:29  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> no column for you anymore
17:56:35  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> lol
17:57:01  <PublicServer> *** Mark has left the game (leaving)
17:57:26  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> who put a train on my plan?
17:58:40  <Mark> !players
17:58:41  <PublicServer> Mark: Client 43 is ZS, a spectator
17:58:42  <PublicServer> Mark: Client 57 (Orange) is Chris Booth, in company 1 (OTTDC (again))
17:58:42  <PublicServer> Mark: Client 52 (Orange) is hylje, in company 1 (OTTDC (again))
17:58:42  <PublicServer> Mark: Client 54 (Orange) is dangerDAN_, in company 1 (OTTDC (again))
17:58:42  <PublicServer> Mark: Client 39 (Orange) is Kangoo, in company 1 (OTTDC (again))
17:58:42  <PublicServer> Mark: Client 55 (Orange) is AmmIer, in company 1 (OTTDC (again))
17:58:42  <PublicServer> Mark: Client 41 (Orange) is ChaseMonkey, in company 1 (OTTDC (again))
17:58:44  <PublicServer> Mark: Client 27 (Orange) is Nichevo, in company 1 (OTTDC (again))
17:58:44  <PublicServer> Mark: Client 29 is mensi, a spectator
17:58:46  <PublicServer> Mark: Client 56 (Orange) is Xaroth, in company 1 (OTTDC (again))
17:58:56  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> SRNW is horrible it never works
17:59:02  <Mark> ?
17:59:08  <Mark> it worked the one time we tried it
17:59:09  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> just end up with massive pickup stions
17:59:27  <Mark> problem being?
17:59:28  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> we ended up with pickup stations so huge
17:59:40  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> waste of space
17:59:45  <Mark> right..
17:59:52  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and goods get wasted
17:59:59  <Mark> bullshit
18:00:00  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> rating are low
18:00:07  <PublicServer> <hylje> srnw?
18:00:17  <Mark> in game 121 we had the most effective network ever
18:00:18  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> self regulating networks
18:00:21  <KenjiE20> define: srnw
18:00:21  <Webster> Self-regulating Network, see:
18:00:30  * SmatZ like that SRNW game
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18:00:58  <Booth> lol
18:01:08  <Booth> mass loss of connections
18:01:15  <Xaroth> something went BOOM
18:01:16  <Ammler> SmatZ: killed us all
18:01:20  <dangerdan> :S
18:01:21  <hylje> !password
18:01:21  <PublicServer> hylje: trophy
18:01:29  <PublicServer> *** hylje joined the game
18:01:30  <Booth> dinner time anyway
18:01:39  <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players)
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18:01:40  <Booth> mensi get my vote
18:01:57  <PublicServer> *** ZS joined the game
18:03:01  <SmatZ> :-P
18:03:28  <Ammler> !rcon magic_bulldozer
18:03:28  <PublicServer> Ammler: ERROR: command or variable not found
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18:03:53  <SmatZ> unpatched? :(
18:06:15  <Ammler> I lost that patch somehow :-)
18:06:21  <Ammler> bb is there
18:06:28  <SmatZ> :)
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18:09:20  <ODM> have you tried looking where you last left it?
18:12:51  <mensi> !password
18:12:51  <PublicServer> mensi: shucks
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18:14:20  <Ammler> ODM: found it :P
18:14:24  <ODM> hehe woo!
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18:16:24  <mensi> hmm Mark suggested the same plan once already right?
18:16:31  <mensi> or am I having a massive deja vu
18:16:32  <Mark> twice even
18:16:35  <Mark> but who cares
18:16:50  <hylje> heh
18:16:52  <Mark> i still think it has potential :P
18:17:25  <mensi> hmm
18:17:53  <Mark> !password
18:17:53  <PublicServer> Mark: shucks
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18:31:13  <Nickman87> !players
18:31:14  <PublicServer> Nickman87: Client 60 is hylje, a spectator
18:31:14  <PublicServer> Nickman87: Client 61 is ZS, a spectator
18:31:15  <PublicServer> Nickman87: Client 63 (Orange) is dangerDAN_, in company 1 (OTTDC (again))
18:31:15  <PublicServer> Nickman87: Client 65 (Orange) is mensi, in company 1 (OTTDC (again))
18:31:15  <PublicServer> Nickman87: Client 67 (Orange) is Nichevo, in company 1 (OTTDC (again))
18:31:16  <PublicServer> Nickman87: Client 69 is Mark, a spectator
18:31:24  <Nickman87> lots of people :)
18:32:46  <SmatZ> 3 spectators :)
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18:41:24  <satyap> !password
18:41:25  <PublicServer> satyap: qualms
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18:45:08  <satyap> can i vote now?
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18:45:29  <PublicServer> <satyap> pm's is WIP, so i'll wait i guess
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18:46:24  <Ammler> :-(
18:46:33  <Ammler> pm isn't around anymore
18:46:45  <satyap> oh. shall we wait?
18:47:46  <PublicServer> *** hylje has left the game (leaving)
18:48:19  <PublicServer> <satyap> what the... someone already built planes and buses? MMs?
18:48:26  <Ammler> ask hylje
18:48:42  <dangerdan> ye they're mms
18:48:53  <PublicServer> <satyap>  oh alrighty then
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18:49:10  <Ammler> cheater vehicels ;-)
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18:49:37  <satyap> ought to make a patch to set starting money, if that optin isn't there already
18:49:50  <HDIEagle> !players
18:49:51  <PublicServer> HDIEagle: Client 61 is ZS, a spectator
18:49:52  <PublicServer> HDIEagle: Client 71 (Orange) is satyap, in company 1 (OTTDC (again))
18:49:52  <PublicServer> HDIEagle: Client 73 (Orange) is dangerDAN_, in company 1 (OTTDC (again))
18:49:52  <PublicServer> HDIEagle: Client 67 (Orange) is Nichevo, in company 1 (OTTDC (again))
18:49:52  <PublicServer> HDIEagle: Client 69 is Mark, a spectator
18:49:53  <satyap> or a patch to make everything cost zero
18:49:53  <HDIEagle> !fish
18:49:53  <PublicServer> HDIEagle: Sorry, only have fish from yesterday! come back tomorrow for today's fish!
18:50:07  <Xaroth> !fish
18:50:07  <PublicServer> Xaroth: Why dont you go outside, play hide and fish something yourself for a day!
18:50:08  <HDIEagle> satyap: we have much more important matters at hand, here
18:50:13  <Xaroth> bah
18:50:14  <Xaroth> !fish
18:50:14  <PublicServer> Xaroth: Why dont you go outside, play hide and fish something yourself for a day!
18:50:21  <Xaroth> bot's bitchy today
18:50:37  <HDIEagle> like, today's fish, what the FRO is it?
18:50:38  <satyap> much more important? such as?
18:50:40  <Ammler> !fish
18:50:40  <PublicServer> Ammler: Why dont you go outside, play hide and fish something yourself for a day!
18:50:42  <satyap> ah
18:50:54  <ODM> Xaroth, i think your wiki autottd page needs a bit of a description what it is:)
18:50:57  <Ammler> indeed, he is.
18:51:05  <Xaroth> ODM: i need a time machine tbqfh
18:51:10  * satyap goes back to his stupid form he's building
18:51:18  <HDIEagle> !password
18:51:18  <PublicServer> HDIEagle: flaunt
18:51:19  <ODM> no?:P
18:51:28  <PublicServer> *** HD1Eagle joined the game
18:52:03  <Ammler> HDIEagle: did you see, we reverted your junction from the junctionary...
18:52:35  <HDIEagle> i found the junctionary to be quite lacking
18:52:47  <HDIEagle> bleh
18:52:57  <Ammler> the junctions there need to be from coop games.
18:53:13  <Ammler> so you would first need to build it, then you can publish it there.
18:53:13  <KenjiE20> "The Junctionary is a collection of important and clever constructions we have developed during our games."
18:53:31  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> i actually did build one very similar to that
18:53:48  <PublicServer> * satyap considers sticking in a boat into this game's MM
18:53:58  <Ammler> HDIEagle: on a coop game?
18:53:59  <PublicServer> <satyap> i'd rather not be lynched, so no.
18:54:07  * KenjiE20 hide the noose
18:54:26  <HDIEagle> http://1186250293:8082/OpenTTDCoop, 2179-08-03.png
18:54:32  <HDIEagle> yeppers
18:54:41  <KenjiE20> 403
18:54:42  <HDIEagle> except cl3
18:54:52  <HDIEagle> it didn't parse the whole link
18:54:56  <HDIEagle> http://1186250293:8082/OpenTTDCoop,%202179-08-03.png
18:55:03  <Ammler> mennu SmatZ, that would be really worth a fix ;-)
18:55:11  <KenjiE20> ah, silly regexp
18:55:14  <HDIEagle> %20 ftw
18:55:33  <SmatZ> Ammler: what happened?
18:55:56  <SmatZ> @seen narc
18:55:56  <Webster> SmatZ: narc was last seen in #openttdcoop 1 week, 2 days, 22 hours, 38 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: <narc> Sorry about that.
18:55:56  <Ammler> openttd saves screenshots with very ugly names
18:56:02  <SmatZ> haha :)
18:56:09  <narc> Hah.
18:56:12  <KenjiE20> lol
18:56:16  <SmatZ> hello narc! :)
18:56:22  <KenjiE20> was wondering how long that would take
18:56:22  <narc> Oi-oi, SmatZie!
18:56:25  <SmatZ> ;-)
18:56:32  <ODM> woo smatz
18:56:34  <ODM> ohno narc lives
18:56:39  <SmatZ> oh that's ODM! :)
18:56:41  * ODM dies
18:56:43  <narc> Ohnoes!
18:56:44  <SmatZ> oh no :(
18:56:48  <narc> Hi, guys.
18:56:48  <KenjiE20> yay
18:56:59  <narc> How goes it?
18:56:59  <HDIEagle> why don't we name the company with the game name so screenshots are easier to tie to games
18:57:06  <ODM> long time no see
18:57:18  <HDIEagle> !wiki
18:57:18  <PublicServer> HDIEagle:
18:57:29  <SmatZ> Ammler: I think it can be changed if you change some string in the lang file
18:57:30  <satyap> it's what i do with my single-player games
18:57:42  <narc> ODM: 'strue, it has been.
18:57:59  <narc> Got side-tracked again.
18:58:03  <ODM> aaaw:(
18:58:06  <ODM> cant hurt t say hi:)
18:58:14  <KenjiE20> heh, still in ottd off-cycle?
18:58:17  <ODM> we dont kill
18:58:19  <ODM> on weekdays
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18:58:35  <hylje> !password
18:58:35  <PublicServer> hylje: flaunt
18:58:37  <narc> KenjiE20: For the moment, aye. No worries, though, cycle's gonna turn around sooner or later.
18:58:44  <PublicServer> *** hylje joined the game
18:58:44  <KenjiE20> heh, yup
18:59:00  <HDIEagle> ah, it was game 67
18:59:04  <narc> ODM: Tough titty if it did, to quote a Monty Python sketch.
18:59:18  <narc> :)
18:59:28  <ODM> style
18:59:33  <Ammler> !users
18:59:33  <PublicServer> Ammler:
18:59:58  <PublicServer> *** hylje has joined spectators
19:02:51  <HDIEagle> those stations weren't crawled manually, were they?
19:03:51  <satyap> how do you crawl stations non-manually?
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19:03:57  <ODM> heh
19:03:59  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> script?
19:04:00  <KenjiE20> crawl?
19:04:04  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> programmed ram hack?
19:04:06  <ODM> he means walked i think
19:04:07  <satyap> you can script ottd now??
19:04:12  <PeterT> !playercount
19:04:13  <PublicServer> PeterT: Number of players: 7
19:04:16  <PeterT> !players
19:04:17  <KenjiE20> define: stationwalk
19:04:17  <Webster> The act of creating a station in two spots by adding and removing connecting sections, see:
19:04:18  <PublicServer> PeterT: Client 75 (Orange) is HD1Eagle, in company 1 (OTTDC (again))
19:04:18  <PublicServer> PeterT: Client 61 is ZS, a spectator
19:04:18  <PublicServer> PeterT: Client 71 (Orange) is satyap, in company 1 (OTTDC (again))
19:04:18  <PublicServer> PeterT: Client 73 (Orange) is dangerDAN_, in company 1 (OTTDC (again))
19:04:18  <PublicServer> PeterT: Client 67 (Orange) is Nichevo, in company 1 (OTTDC (again))
19:04:19  <PeterT> new map?
19:04:20  <PublicServer> PeterT: Client 69 is Mark, a spectator
19:04:20  <PublicServer> PeterT: Client 77 is hylje, a spectator
19:04:30  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> already?
19:04:33  <Xaroth> [satyap]: how do you crawl stations non-manually? << distant-join.
19:04:35  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> we just started this one
19:04:46  <PeterT> Xaroth: Ctrl + Station
19:04:53  <satyap> distant join. not familiar with that. i'll look up
19:05:01  <satyap> define: distant join
19:05:06  <KenjiE20> one word
19:05:09  <PeterT> !password
19:05:09  <PublicServer> PeterT: flaunt
19:05:12  <satyap> found it
19:05:13  <KenjiE20> same page as station walk
19:05:18  <Xaroth> PeterT: I know what it is
19:05:18  <ODM> thats not one word
19:05:21  <PublicServer> *** Peter joined the game
19:05:21  <Xaroth> it was an answer, not a question
19:05:27  <PublicServer> <Peter> oh sorry man
19:05:40  <PublicServer> <Peter> ok
19:05:43  <PublicServer> <Peter> so are we voting?
19:05:53  <KenjiE20> is there a vote board?
19:05:57  <HDIEagle> yeppers
19:06:01  <KenjiE20> does a bear .. in the woods?
19:06:04  <PublicServer> <hylje> there's a terribly elaborate vote board
19:06:07  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> no, but an elipsis does
19:06:16  <PublicServer> <Peter> ok, i see that nobody has voted
19:06:19  * satyap is enlightened
19:06:27  <ODM> KenjiE20, that depends on season
19:06:29  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> are we voting against or for
19:06:32  <KenjiE20> lol
19:06:41  <KenjiE20> fine..
19:06:43  <ODM> during their wintersleep they dont... natural buttplug and all
19:06:47  <KenjiE20> Is the space pope reptilian?
19:06:49  <PublicServer> <hylje> don't forget the nonstandard vote for my nonstandard plan
19:06:50  <PublicServer> <Peter> on mensi's plan, what does RRR mean
19:07:00  <PublicServer> <hylje> right right right
19:07:02  <satyap> i think it means one-way ML
19:07:03  <KenjiE20> @rr
19:07:03  <Webster> LL / RR or variations are indicating directions on a main- or sideline
19:07:11  <PublicServer> <Peter> oh
19:07:25  <satyap> my mountain dew is orange :(
19:07:34  <hylje> someone replaced it with fanta
19:07:46  <KenjiE20> that's not a soft drink in there
19:08:01  * satyap agrees with KenjiE20 for the moment
19:08:21  <ODM> does lizard poison spock?
19:08:24  <HDIEagle> !define srnw
19:08:27  * satyap throws out and awaits the ridicule
19:08:40  <KenjiE20> ! is the PS key
19:08:40  <satyap> i would think lizard would poison spock
19:08:52  <KenjiE20> Webster's is @
19:08:56  <ODM> you happen to be right
19:09:09  <satyap> that's a question for wolfram|alpha
19:09:10  <ODM> and paper disproves spock!
19:09:11  <PublicServer> *** Peter has left the game (leaving)
19:09:22  <satyap> ah
19:09:40  <satyap>
19:09:49  <satyap> needs more meat. i'd add it if i knew more, but i don't
19:10:14  <HDIEagle> define: srnw
19:10:14  <Webster> Self-regulating Network, see:
19:10:18  <HDIEagle> oh
19:10:20  <KenjiE20> <satyap> needs more meat. <--- ohhh yyyeeeeeaaahhh?
19:10:28  <satyap> heh
19:10:34  <satyap> Srnw != SRNW, apparently
19:10:53  <HDIEagle> srnw's are a bit too...controlled, eh?
19:11:17  <KenjiE20> hmm
19:11:18  <Kangoo> !password
19:11:18  <PublicServer> Kangoo: cameos
19:11:27  <KenjiE20> no idea why Srnw isn't a redirect
19:11:30  <PublicServer> *** Kangoo joined the game
19:11:38  <KenjiE20> seems like it should be
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19:12:17  <Mark> KenjiE20: i only started on the srnw page today :P
19:12:51  <Mark> i'm hoping to get some nice ideas from this game
19:13:07  <PublicServer> <Mark> so, shall we start voting?
19:13:12  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> wait
19:13:14  <PublicServer> *** Peter joined the game
19:13:18  <KenjiE20> Srnw and SRNW should probably both point at the full self reg. page
19:13:24  <Mark> yeah true
19:13:25  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> how many times have we built mls that run primarily diagonally?
19:13:33  <PublicServer> <Mark> once
19:13:36  <PublicServer> <Mark> was ugly
19:13:49  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> ^_^
19:14:04  <PublicServer> *** Mark has joined company #1
19:14:14  * satyap remembers the diagonal ML
19:14:26  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> what game was that
19:14:36  <PublicServer> <Mark> some 110-ish i think
19:14:57  <Mark> @stage Voting
19:14:57  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #147 (r16621) | STAGE: Voting | | Use !help for IRC-commands | Cargo Destinations at | Client record: 24 | Screenshots:"
19:15:18  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> they all look sooooooo....central hubbishly
19:15:27  <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah
19:15:37  <PublicServer> <Mark> i prefer spreading it
19:15:44  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> i want an h pattern with a 5x5 interlink
19:15:58  <PublicServer> <hylje> if you like spreading my not-chaos is ideal
19:16:17  <PublicServer> <Mark> if you make an H you might aswell have a hub
19:16:26  <PublicServer> <Mark> as you're forcing all traffic to one point anyway
19:16:29  <PublicServer> <hylje> H is a X with a double T
19:17:05  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> then how about a Y
19:17:09  <Webster> Latest update from blog: Checking the archive & userpages <>
19:17:31  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> a T in disguise
19:18:21  <PublicServer> *** satyap has left the game (leaving)
19:18:57  <dangerdan> is it highest number for fav layout?
19:19:03  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> yes
19:20:37  <satyap> PSG97 was the diagonal ML
19:20:40  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> gleeb here?
19:20:47  * satyap notes his name lacking from the ex-suspects list
19:20:57  <PublicServer> <hylje> not notable enough!
19:21:13  <HDIEagle> i come here every 237 games, why aren't i on the list?
19:21:17  <HDIEagle> :P
19:21:36  <hylje> we haven't had 237 games yet
19:21:36  <KenjiE20> see previous answer
19:21:38  <satyap> sheesh, no need to make fun
19:21:49  <satyap> !password
19:21:49  <PublicServer> satyap: downed
19:21:56  <hylje> NO FUN ALLOWED
19:21:58  <PublicServer> *** satyap joined the game
19:22:25  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> gleebs plan seems a little...1500 trains required-y
19:22:31  <PublicServer> *** ChaseMonkey joined the game
19:22:40  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> wait, this a small map
19:23:09  <PublicServer> <Mark> 1500 trains on a 512^2 is perfectly doable
19:23:42  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> except for the 1024 train cap which is possibly implemented on a game by game basis but i'm not sure if it is?
19:23:51  <PublicServer> <Mark> it is
19:24:04  <PublicServer> <Mark> that limit was compeletely random
19:24:04  <dangerdan> !players
19:24:06  <PublicServer> dangerdan: Client 75 (Orange) is HD1Eagle, in company 1 (OTTDC (again))
19:24:06  <PublicServer> dangerdan: Client 88 (Orange) is ChaseMonkey, in company 1 (OTTDC (again))
19:24:06  <PublicServer> dangerdan: Client 61 is ZS, a spectator
19:24:06  <PublicServer> dangerdan: Client 86 (Orange) is satyap, in company 1 (OTTDC (again))
19:24:06  <PublicServer> dangerdan: Client 73 (Orange) is dangerDAN_, in company 1 (OTTDC (again))
19:24:08  <PublicServer> dangerdan: Client 67 (Orange) is Nichevo, in company 1 (OTTDC (again))
19:24:08  <PublicServer> dangerdan: Client 69 (Orange) is Mark, in company 1 (OTTDC (again))
19:24:10  <PublicServer> dangerdan: Client 77 is hylje, a spectator
19:24:10  <PublicServer> dangerdan: Client 82 (Orange) is Kangoo, in company 1 (OTTDC (again))
19:24:12  <PublicServer> dangerdan: Client 84 (Orange) is Peter, in company 1 (OTTDC (again))
19:24:12  <Mark> !trains 800
19:24:12  <PublicServer> *** Mark has set max_trains to 800
19:24:16  <Mark> !trains 1233
19:24:16  <PublicServer> *** Mark has set max_trains to 1233
19:24:18  <Mark> !trains 17
19:24:18  <PublicServer> *** Mark has set max_trains to 17
19:24:23  <Mark> !trains 500
19:24:23  <PublicServer> *** Mark has set max_trains to 500
19:24:26  <hylje> completely arbitrary
19:24:30  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> 1024 is not random, how dare you
19:24:38  <Xaroth> 2^10?
19:24:40  <narc> 1024 is a perfectly round number.
19:24:43  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> yes
19:24:45  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> :3
19:25:27  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> also: don't take me seriously (no one ever seems to anyway :(
19:26:56  <PublicServer> *** ZS has joined company #1
19:27:06  <PublicServer> <Peter> satyap? why do you have 3 5s?
19:27:23  <PublicServer> <satyap> because i didn't realise what i was donig
19:27:27  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> he's deciding
19:27:33  <PublicServer> <Peter> oh
19:28:27  <satyap> there, is that all better?
19:28:34  <PublicServer> <Peter> :) yes
19:30:16  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> i've a hunch everyone likes srnws
19:30:38  <PublicServer> *** hylje has joined company #1
19:30:40  <PublicServer> <Peter> wait, how do i use that command?
19:30:42  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> or, as i will pronounce them over the in-game voice chat, snrawwwwws
19:30:43  <PublicServer> *** Peter has joined spectators
19:30:43  <PublicServer> *** Peter has left the game (wrong company-id in DoCommand)
19:31:07  <PeterT> !password
19:31:07  <PublicServer> PeterT: downed
19:31:19  <PublicServer> *** Peter joined the game
19:31:30  <PeterT> !playercount
19:31:30  <PublicServer> PeterT: Number of players: 10
19:31:44  <PublicServer> <Peter> whats the most amount of people in one openttd server game?
19:31:50  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> how do you pronounce "tneo"?
19:31:56  <Mark> you dont
19:32:05  <satyap> tee-neo, i always thought
19:32:09  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> so i call him "    "
19:32:14  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> and he will respond?
19:32:21  <satyap> or rather, "tneo"
19:32:36  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> the e is silent
19:32:54  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> i've decided that the e is silent
19:33:02  <PublicServer> <Peter> i thought it was " te....nee.....o"
19:33:11  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> "no" is one syllable
19:33:20  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> :3
19:33:53  <PublicServer> <Peter> so like, TEE NO
19:34:00  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> no
19:34:03  * satyap drinks dew, and throws this darn word doc into the trash
19:34:03  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> just no
19:34:16  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> you walked right into that one, peter
19:34:21  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> ^_^
19:34:50  <PublicServer> <Peter> :?
19:35:02  <HDIEagle> that was the joke
19:35:04  <HDIEagle> "no"
19:35:06  <HDIEagle> just "no"
19:35:08  <HDIEagle> or no
19:35:10  <HDIEagle> just no
19:35:19  <HDIEagle> get i
19:35:21  <HDIEagle> t? :3
19:35:49  <PublicServer> <Peter> where is hyje's plan?
19:35:58  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> it consists soley of signs
19:36:01  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> use the sign list
19:36:14  <PublicServer> <hylje> right beside network plans sign
19:36:21  <PublicServer> <hylje> or jump to plan/hylje
19:36:23  <PublicServer> <Peter> oh
19:36:32  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> isn't this voting scheme flawed somehow?
19:36:41  <PublicServer> <Peter> like someone changing your votes?
19:36:42  <PublicServer> <Peter> yes
19:36:43  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> or do you do eliminate minimum iteratively?
19:36:53  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> i wasn't questioning the honor system
19:37:05  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> i was just pointing at the faults of relying on a highly pluraltive system
19:37:22  <PublicServer> <hylje> this one is highly elaborate
19:37:23  <PublicServer> <Mark> always open for suggestions
19:37:28  <satyap> iow, you think we might end up with a tie
19:37:31  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> i say tally up
19:37:32  <PublicServer> <hylje> in the past a simple one name one vote has been enough
19:37:35  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> then eliminate lowest point
19:37:41  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> then bump all the votes
19:37:45  <PublicServer> <Mark> we did that
19:37:46  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> and re-tally
19:37:49  <PublicServer> <Mark> took too much time
19:37:58  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> use microsoft excel
19:38:16  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> normalize point data
19:38:18  <satyap> i voted "88" instead of "8" to avoid errors </dumbassery>
19:38:41  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> those pipelines are going to take a lot of time to delete
19:38:51  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> do we have a shortcut for deleting signs?
19:39:04  <narc> Yah, Ctrl+click the sign.
19:39:04  <PublicServer> <Mark> ctrl-click
19:39:13  <PublicServer> <Mark> it's the narc :)
19:39:35  <PublicServer> <Peter> gotta go
19:39:36  <narc> So it is. Oi-oi, Mark!
19:39:36  <PublicServer> <Peter> cya
19:39:38  <PublicServer> *** Peter has left the game (leaving)
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19:39:54  <narc> !password
19:39:54  <PublicServer> narc: lisped
19:40:02  <PublicServer> *** Narc joined the game
19:40:07  <PublicServer> <Narc> Holy cattle.
19:41:05  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> i think someone mis-calculated their word's length
19:41:53  <PublicServer> <hylje> mark you voted yourself for 8
19:41:55  <PublicServer> <hylje> pfft
19:42:01  <Mark> of course :P
19:42:03  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> why the hell not
19:43:07  <satyap> used to be you couldn't vote for yourself
19:43:13  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> pfffrt
19:43:13  <satyap> but now, with this ranking system....
19:43:29  <PublicServer> <satyap> i think it's needed
19:43:48  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> someone can't add
19:45:17  <Booth> have i lost yet?
19:45:20  <PublicServer> <Mark> what was wrong, then?
19:45:31  <HDIEagle> mensi = 29
19:45:33  <HDIEagle> not 30
19:45:33  <satyap> apparently, you won, Booth
19:45:43  <PublicServer> <Mark> we neeh way more votes
19:45:49  <HDIEagle> let's take plurality effect in to account
19:45:51  <satyap> wait where's my plan
19:45:56  <satyap> oh right i didn't make one
19:45:59  <satyap> !trout
19:46:09  <hylje> !fish
19:46:09  <PublicServer> hylje: Today's fish is smoked eel on toast with horseradish cream.
19:46:09  <Ammler> satyap: you know RoR ?
19:46:14  <satyap> Ammler: i do indeed
19:46:27  <Ammler> he, like to help with DevZone?
19:46:34  <Ammler> Redmine
19:46:35  <satyap> ohboyohboyohboy
19:46:37  <satyap> i mean, er, sure
19:46:39  <Ammler> hehe
19:46:50  <satyap> and now i plummet again by asking, what's Redmine
19:46:52  * satyap googles
19:47:10  <Ammler>
19:47:12  <PublicServer> <satyap>  isee
19:47:34  <PublicServer> * satyap peers
19:47:58  <Xaroth> redmine is a project management system
19:48:45  <narc> Heh, was just looking at the "list of companies or projects using Redmine". It occured to me it was a long list of names I'd never heard of.
19:48:53  * satyap wonders where Ruby on Rails fits in
19:49:07  <narc> Redmine's written in RoR, apparently.
19:49:34  <PublicServer> <satyap> ah, i see
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19:50:00  <PublicServer> <satyap>  well, i get to suck at Rails at work, so yeah. what do you need?
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19:50:07  <narc> 8 plans make my brain hurt.
19:50:07  <Farden> !playercount
19:50:07  <PublicServer> Farden: Number of players: 9
19:50:10  <Farden> !password
19:50:10  <PublicServer> Farden: lisped
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19:50:26  <Radicalimero> !download win32
19:50:27  <PublicServer> Radicalimero:
19:50:29  <Xaroth> yeh
19:50:40  * Xaroth doesn't like RoR.
19:50:40  <PublicServer> *** Farden joined the game
19:50:40  <PublicServer> <Farden> hi there!
19:50:43  <Radicalimero> !password
19:50:43  <PublicServer> Radicalimero: arable
19:50:54  <PublicServer> <Farden> wow, lot's of people tonight
19:51:32  <Ammler> Xaroth: actually it was way easier to install then any Python app
19:51:48  * Xaroth doesn't like python for webapps either
19:51:50  * satyap apt-gets it, usually
19:51:51  <Ammler> easy_install just sucks.
19:52:01  <satyap> what do you prefer, Xaroth?
19:52:13  <Xaroth> i work mostly with php
19:52:14  <Booth> !password
19:52:14  <PublicServer> Booth: arable
19:52:20  <hylje> burn
19:52:20  <Ammler> ruby and gems rocks :-)
19:52:21  <hylje> !
19:52:30  <Xaroth> I spot a php-hatter
19:52:40  <hylje> i do not have a php hat
19:52:45  <narc> I do.
19:52:46  <satyap> haaaaaaahhahaha
19:52:47  <valhallasw> I'm sorry Xaroth, did you mean the language where ++'z' == 'aa' but where 'z' > 'aa'?
19:52:48  <narc> And a Perl hat.
19:52:49  * satyap falls down
19:53:07  * satyap has issues with php besides what valhallasw said
19:53:13  <Xaroth> valhallasw: shush you also claimed that distupgrading ubuntu took a reinstall :P
19:53:14  <satyap> i have a perl hat
19:53:14  <narc> Huh.
19:53:23  <valhallasw> Xaroth: erm, no?
19:53:23  <satyap> i had a C hat somewhere but i think it was free()d
19:53:30  <Xaroth> you didn't? hm, somebody here did
19:53:37  <narc> I never found a reason to increment a string (the f...?)
19:53:52  <satyap> sometimes it's better to nuke and pave. sometimes.
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19:54:12  <Xaroth> and I do agree with the somewhat toooooo easy handling of variables
19:54:14  <satyap> you can increment a string. the result is sometimes a syntax error, but whatever :)
19:54:14  <narc> Oh, I had the lovely opportunity to dist-upgrade from intrepid to jaunty and turned out something unusable.
19:54:20  <Xaroth> I prefer the C# style for that
19:54:36  <narc> In that, it booted just fine, got to desktop, and then rebooted. Ad infinitum.
19:54:48  * satyap thinks, in C, char str[]="hello"; str++; printf("%s", str); results in "ello"
19:54:54  <Xaroth> I upgraded 5 servers from 8.something to 9.04 .. no issues no crashes only a reboot or two
19:54:55  <valhallasw> satyap: correct
19:54:57  <narc> So, there, dist-upgrading ubuntu *does* sometimes take a reinstall.
19:55:02  <valhallasw> that's because str is a pointer ;)
19:55:06  <narc> Worked fine on other computers, tho.
19:55:12  <SmatZ> satyap: str++ will fail
19:55:13  <satyap> yes, pointer arithmetic. yay!
19:55:24  <Xaroth> *str++ innit?
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19:55:26  <narc> In C, there are no strings. Only arrays of char.
19:55:26  <valhallasw> oh, SmatZ is right
19:55:28  <satyap> SmatZ: but str is a pointer
19:55:35  <SmatZ> it's an array
19:55:36  * satyap breaks out the gcc
19:55:39  <narc> Or char*.
19:55:45  * Xaroth shrugs
19:55:46  <Xaroth> don't do C
19:55:52  * satyap could be an idiot, and SmatZ could be right
19:55:53  <valhallasw> an array is a non-mutable pointer, in some sorts :P
19:55:56  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> oh, hylje found a column _o
19:56:01  <SmatZ> :)
19:56:01  <PublicServer> <hylje> :>
19:56:02  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> :-o
19:56:03  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> after much iterations, i conclude that the point system is a solid voting system
19:56:07  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> err
19:56:10  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> much iteration
19:56:11  <valhallasw> so printf("%s", str+1) works
19:56:14  <valhallasw> but str++ does not
19:56:36  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> apart from the fact you can give your self points
19:56:36  <valhallasw> but arrays in C are quite useless :P
19:56:51  <valhallasw> as they are static
19:57:02  <valhallasw> or, well, fixed-length
19:57:26  <narc> Immutable?
19:57:26  <satyap> #include <stdio.h>
19:57:26  <satyap> int main(int arggc, char **argv) {
19:57:26  <satyap>     char str[]="hello";
19:57:27  <satyap>     printf("%s\n", str);
19:57:27  <satyap>     str++;
19:57:27  <satyap>     printf("%s\n", str);
19:57:27  <satyap>     return 0;
19:57:29  <satyap> }
19:57:34  <narc> Though I suppose not.
19:57:34  <satyap> t.c:5: error: lvalue required as increment operand
19:57:38  <satyap> so yes, smatz is right
19:57:44  <planetmaker> o/
19:57:47  <satyap> sorry baout the spewage
19:57:50  <satyap> i should've pastied
19:57:52  <narc> Oi-oi, pm.
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19:58:05  <planetmaker> many good ol' faces here :)
19:58:14  <narc> It's like coming home again.
19:58:17  <valhallasw> narc: immutable is the python term for a object that cannot be changed, but it doesnt say wether object++ works or not
19:58:20  <ODM> ey pm
19:58:20  <satyap> t.c:3: warning: ISO C forbids nested functions. what the who?
19:58:28  <narc> valhallasw: Not only python.
19:58:31  <valhallasw> integers are immutable, but 1++ returns 2
19:58:38  <valhallasw> probably not, no :P
19:58:47  <narc> And I did correctly state "Though I suppose not" afterwards.
19:58:49  <valhallasw> but I am only certain what it means in python
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19:59:02  <satyap> char str* <-- grr
19:59:06  <narc> Means the same everywhere else. Immutable == cannot be changed.
19:59:06  <valhallasw> ans I confirmed your suspicion? :P
19:59:08  <HDIEagle> hi pm
19:59:12  <valhallasw> satyap: try char *str :P
19:59:13  <narc> Can always generate a new one, though.
19:59:14  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> wth a voting board is this?
19:59:15  <satyap> yes :)
19:59:30  <narc> 8 plans. Hurt my brain.
19:59:34  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> new voting PM
19:59:39  <HDIEagle> since when is the honor system a failed system?
19:59:40  <narc> Can I has a new brain, pls?
19:59:43  <PublicServer> <Farden> voting board updated
19:59:43  <satyap> char *str allows for str++, and works
19:59:47  <valhallasw> aye
19:59:55  <satyap> *str isn't quite the same as str[]
19:59:57  <HDIEagle> i think displaying the totals skes results
19:59:58  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> bad method to scale it linearly :)
20:00:01  <HDIEagle> skews*
20:00:05  <PublicServer> <Farden> for the moment, chris is the first
20:00:06  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> narc brain'R'us is currently close
20:00:07  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> better method is like formular 1 or so
20:00:10  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> or best 3
20:00:13  <PublicServer> <Farden> followed by Mark
20:00:19  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> so if you want a new brain you will have to wait
20:00:27  <PublicServer> <Farden> then we have combuster and memsi for the third place
20:00:28  <HDIEagle> planetmaker: i actually iterated through it by elimination in excel, and it worked....
20:00:47  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> uh, HDIEagle?
20:00:55  <HDIEagle> in this scenario
20:00:57  <planetmaker> of course it can work
20:01:10  <planetmaker> I don't say that it doesn't give results.
20:01:17  <HDIEagle> and if it works once, its a good enough means to rule a country with, right?
20:01:17  <planetmaker> But there are better voting methods.
20:01:19  <PublicServer> *** ZS has left the game (leaving)
20:01:20  <HDIEagle> right?
20:01:32  <planetmaker> no :)
20:01:36  *** ZS has quit IRC
20:01:37  <HDIEagle> *coughcommunisumcough*
20:01:43  <PublicServer> <Farden> ^^
20:01:50  <planetmaker> neither
20:01:52  <planetmaker> :)
20:02:01  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> he
20:02:03  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> communism would be saying PM wins all the time
20:02:07  <hylje> dictatorship
20:02:14  <ODM> we share the victory
20:02:15  <planetmaker> Hey, I actually went quite a bit to inform myself about voting methods and how to count them...
20:02:25  <planetmaker> vote != vote.
20:02:25  <HDIEagle> no, going into the streets and shouting "pm wins all the time" makes for a scene
20:02:27  <PublicServer> <Farden> actually in communism, you share defeat
20:02:30  <planetmaker> There are so may methods
20:02:31  <PublicServer> <Farden> not victory^^
20:02:44  <planetmaker> Farden: the world hasn't seen anywhere communism.
20:02:46  <narc> In soviet russia, plans vote you?
20:02:55  <PublicServer> <Farden> china? russia?
20:02:58  <planetmaker> no
20:03:03  <PublicServer> <Farden> oh, no, I forget
20:03:08  <PublicServer> <Farden> communism is impossible
20:03:10  <planetmaker> it's only what they claimed it to be :)
20:03:12  <planetmaker> exactly
20:03:12  <HDIEagle> planetmaker: not even for 1 nanosecond?
20:03:35  <Booth> russia and china both had communist ideals
20:03:42  <Booth> but so do many countries
20:03:43  <planetmaker> humans are not altruistic to the general good as communism needs it
20:03:51  <PublicServer> <Farden> well, they started a revolution with this idea
20:03:52  <HDIEagle> can we not establish a technical communism by simply skewing the perception?
20:03:55  <PublicServer> <Farden> and then someone take it
20:03:58  <HDIEagle> argh, metaphysics suck
20:04:00  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> planetm4ker: finish your plan :P
20:04:00  <PublicServer> <Farden> and changed it into a dictatorship
20:04:22  <Booth> closest to communism you will get it the trains in openttd
20:04:23  <PublicServer> <Farden> communism would mean everyone has everything
20:04:34  <PublicServer> <Farden> but it's impossible : everyone is not the same
20:04:55  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> #
20:05:00  <PublicServer> <Farden> +1
20:05:13  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> there's a fine difference between "be same" and "have same rights" :)
20:05:15  <Booth> well if every one was a clone of the same person
20:05:16  <HDIEagle> what if some dictator wrote a legal docuoment proclaiming that from 5:41:02 to 5:41:02.000000001, everyone owns everything
20:05:21  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> so, yes, Farden :)
20:05:31  <PublicServer> <Farden> yeah but typically when you talk about communism
20:05:37  <HDIEagle> would that not be a communist regime for .000000001 seconds?
20:05:38  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> AmmIer: any proposals on how to treat goods?
20:05:42  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> possible to give 2 times say 4 and no 3 ?
20:05:43  <PublicServer> <Farden> people imagine all communists are the same
20:05:48  <PublicServer> <Farden> they have the same house
20:05:51  <PublicServer> <Farden> they eat the same thing
20:05:56  <PublicServer> <Farden> everything is the same for everyone
20:06:06  *** [com]buster has quit IRC
20:06:13  <HDIEagle> i ask myself one question:
20:06:30  *** [com]buster has joined #openttdcoop
20:06:30  *** ChanServ sets mode: +o [com]buster
20:06:51  <HDIEagle> can i walk down the street, say hello to one person, get punched in the face, and walk further down the street, say hello to another, and be allowed to take part in intellectual conversation
20:06:58  <HDIEagle> if so, its not communism
20:07:32  <PublicServer> <Farden> it looks more like an anarchy
20:07:34  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> is that what you're saying?
20:07:46  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> micro-transactions make for communism?
20:08:24  <Ammler> satyap: if you like to help with a plugin or such for redmine, visit us at #openttdcoop.devzone
20:08:34  <HDIEagle> newgrf package for openttd: http://1186250293:8082/collision.png
20:08:48  <Ammler> (or with general maintenance)
20:08:56  <Farden> kaboom!
20:09:10  <satyap> nice
20:09:21  <HDIEagle> i forget who i swiped that from
20:09:41  <HDIEagle> that would be sweet
20:09:45  <PublicServer> *** dangerDAN_ has left the game (leaving)
20:09:49  <HDIEagle> we'd be messing with that for days
20:09:51  <hylje> why does an integer address work
20:10:00  <satyap> ?
20:10:05  <KenjiE20> I was just wondering that
20:10:11  <satyap> oh yeah an ip address
20:10:18  <satyap> is just 32 bits (ipv4)
20:10:20  <HDIEagle> because it's decimal
20:10:22  <KenjiE20> that's not an IP
20:10:23  <satyap> express that as a decimal
20:10:26  <HDIEagle> it is an IP
20:10:32  <HDIEagle> don't dwell on it
20:10:37  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> brb
20:10:38  <hylje> 4 x 8bit = 32bit
20:10:43  <satyap> the dotted-quad just takes 8 bits at a time, and expresses each octet as decimal
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20:11:09  <PublicServer> <Farden> the main problem with ipv6 is that you just can't give easily an IP to someone
20:11:11  <PublicServer> <Farden> too long^^
20:11:18  <hylje> lies
20:11:19  <Xaroth> that's why they invented DNS
20:11:29  <PublicServer> <Farden> you don't always have DNS
20:11:35  <PublicServer> <Farden> example : home network
20:11:38  <valhallasw> chrome understands 0xdeadbeef addresses... more or less
20:11:41  <satyap> which part is lies?
20:11:42  <Xaroth> I have dns at my home network
20:11:46  * Xaroth owns the domain
20:11:47  <PublicServer> <Farden> you have
20:11:52  <PublicServer> <Farden> but not anyone has
20:11:55  <satyap> anyone can have a .local dns
20:11:56  <valhallasw> parses them and shows the possible ip to use
20:11:58  <valhallasw> *grin*
20:11:58  <PublicServer> * Farden owns domain
20:11:59  <PublicServer> <Farden> ^^
20:12:10  <narc> domains are free.
20:12:18  <satyap> so're .local :)
20:12:27  <PublicServer> <Farden> yeah, I know
20:12:32  <PublicServer> <Farden> I have my own DNS server at home
20:12:43  <PublicServer> <Farden> I'm just saying that for someone not into computers
20:12:50  <PublicServer> <Farden> it will be harder than with ipv4
20:13:04  <PublicServer> <Farden> cause they don't know how to setup a DNS
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20:13:07  <PublicServer> <Farden> and so on
20:13:10  <PublicServer> *** Mark has joined spectators
20:13:12  <narc> They don't have to.
20:13:24  <PublicServer> <Farden> if you have 2 computers at home
20:13:26  <narc> THey can use some prettified web interface to some free service.
20:13:31  <PublicServer> <Farden> and you want to share files between computers
20:13:46  <narc> That? You don't need DNS for that.
20:13:54  <HDIEagle> ???
20:13:55  <Webster> Title: IPv6 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at
20:13:55  <PublicServer> <Farden> so how do you do?
20:13:56  <satyap> then those people "not into computers" use cd or usb stick
20:14:05  <Xaroth> OR
20:14:06  <PublicServer> <Farden> okay... wron example
20:14:10  <Xaroth> they use the windows auto-discover feature
20:14:14  <KenjiE20> <Farden> I have my own DNS server at home <-- what a mildly pointless waste of home processing power
20:14:16  <Xaroth> that discovers shares on the network...
20:14:19  <narc> Pretty much. NetBIOS.
20:14:34  <PublicServer> <Farden> Kenji : I have LOTS of computing power at home, so... I can waste a bit^^
20:14:37  <narc> KenjiE20: I submit to you
20:14:39  <Webster> Title: Home - (at
20:14:51  <narc> Completely served out of my home.
20:15:17  <narc> (includes: DNS, SMTP, HTTP. May contain small parts. Batteries not included. Keep out of the reach of children.)
20:15:24  <HDIEagle> i just use it for sharing pictures instantly
20:15:40  * satyap has smtp but uses a smarthost for outgoing and imap for incoming. so, not really.
20:15:52  <PublicServer> *** hylje has left the game (leaving)
20:15:58  <satyap> i don't use it for anything. my bandwidth to outside world sucks
20:16:05  <PublicServer> <Farden> when does the vote ends?
20:16:15  <HDIEagle> how do y'all deal with autorun.inf viruses?
20:16:24  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> uhm... one can vote for one self?
20:16:25  <hylje> disable autorun
20:16:30  <PublicServer> <Farden> yes
20:16:35  <PublicServer> <Mark> planetm4ker: with points you can :P
20:16:35  <PublicServer> <Farden> autorun disabled
20:16:36  <PublicServer> <Farden> always
20:16:41  <HDIEagle> i meant the shellexecute
20:16:46  <KenjiE20> don't plug in shit you don't trust
20:16:48  <narc> What autorun.inf?
20:16:50  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> bulloks voting IMO
20:16:55  <HDIEagle> someone plugs in a flash drive
20:16:56  <PublicServer> <Farden> and yeah
20:16:57  <narc> Linux don't care.
20:16:59  <HDIEagle> you go into explorer
20:17:01  <PublicServer> <Farden> Kenji is right
20:17:03  <HDIEagle> and double-click it to open it
20:17:06  <PublicServer> <Farden> don't plug something unsafe
20:17:07  <PublicServer> <Farden> that's all
20:17:08  <HDIEagle> instead, it executes
20:17:11  <PublicServer> *** Mark has joined company #1
20:17:12  <narc> I don't plug shit into my Windows.
20:17:18  <HDIEagle> the problem i had was
20:17:20  <satyap> HDIEagle: seriously, good antivirus, and pray a lot. and linux, seriously.
20:17:21  <PublicServer> <Farden> right click, open
20:17:24  <HDIEagle> not everyone in my family is tech savvy
20:17:27  <PublicServer> <Farden> it's as easy as that
20:17:36  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> PM that might be cheating
20:17:41  <narc> And turn off autorun.
20:17:46  <PublicServer> <Farden> cheating?
20:17:47  <narc> Nothing should run by itself.
20:17:49  <satyap> ah, that one you deal with with "if your computer has problems, i will wipe and reinstall"
20:17:50  <HDIEagle> so i wrote a C++ program to auto-delete the open and shellexecute from autorun.inf
20:17:52  <PublicServer> <Farden> oh
20:17:53  <PublicServer> <Farden> yeah
20:17:54  <PublicServer> <Farden> ^^
20:17:55  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> so. 8 for me 0 for all else then. Fine :)
20:17:55  <PublicServer> *** planetm4ker has left the game (connection lost)
20:17:57  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> PM's votes
20:18:12  <PublicServer> *** Mark has left the game (leaving)
20:18:21  <satyap> planetmaker: apparently you have to vote the numbers 1 through 8, no repeats
20:18:25  <PublicServer> <Farden> ...Mark?
20:18:36  <HDIEagle> why bother with a full-blown antivirus when the only problem you have is with infected flash drives?
20:18:40  <planetmaker> damn
20:18:47  <planetmaker> wifi died :S
20:18:51  <Mark> planetmaker is right
20:18:53  <Mark> i shouldnt vote
20:18:54  <narc> Where do you get these infected flash drives, anyway?
20:19:07  <HDIEagle> school or an infected photo lab
20:19:15  <HDIEagle> they also propogate via sd cards
20:19:19  <HDIEagle> and ipods
20:19:19  <narc> Blech.
20:19:22  <satyap> flash drives are the floppies of the 21st century
20:19:23  <narc> Linux for the win.
20:19:40  <valhallasw> narc: erm, actually
20:19:41  <valhallasw> no :P
20:19:47  <satyap> without the benefit of write-protect
20:19:48  <HDIEagle> the only way around it is to use the autorun pop-up (ironically) or type the letter drive into the address bar
20:19:49  <narc> Heard of people running around with infected SD card and never finding out because they only ran Linux.
20:19:50  <PublicServer> <Farden> I'm working with linux at work
20:19:56  <PublicServer> <Farden> ok, it's good for developpers
20:19:59  <PublicServer> <Farden> but I prefer windows at home
20:20:06  <valhallasw> narc: sure, but there are some /very/ nasty botnet scripts on linux :P
20:20:07  <PublicServer> <Farden> even if I can handle an unix system
20:20:28  <Xaroth> I run windows, with vmware workstation to boot into linux
20:20:39  <PublicServer> <Farden> I'm doing the contrary
20:20:44  <narc> HDIEagle: Actually, if autorun.inf is present, it'll override the pop-up, and it won't wait for you to type the letter anywhere, either.
20:20:44  <PublicServer> <Farden> I run linux on a VM
20:20:47  <satyap> Farden: if you haven't already, try the newer ubuntu systems. pretty nice, but some more work needed
20:20:51  <PublicServer> <Farden> with windows 7 x64 as a host
20:20:53  <planetmaker> damn... wifi died :S
20:20:54  <narc> valhallasw: Never met one.
20:21:00  <HDIEagle> narc: no, flashdrives don't have autoexecuted autorun.infs
20:21:08  <PublicServer> <Farden> theys could
20:21:09  <HDIEagle> narc: its a security measure
20:21:11  <PublicServer> <Farden> if you set your bios
20:21:16  <PublicServer> <Farden> to recognise them as a CD drive
20:21:21  <PublicServer> <Farden> or as a floppy drive
20:21:28  <PublicServer> <Farden> I have this feature on my MB
20:21:28  <narc> Hrm. That's better than I expected.
20:21:35  <HDIEagle> Farden: never seen that before
20:21:44  <HDIEagle> the way it works is, you pop it in
20:21:46  <HDIEagle> you go to explorer
20:21:49  <HDIEagle> and double click the drive
20:21:53  <HDIEagle> thats when it executes
20:21:53  <PublicServer> <Farden> yeah
20:22:02  <PublicServer> <Farden> indeed
20:22:13  <narc> Yay. Because double-click "obviously" means "execute the auto-run"
20:22:27  <satyap> hmm. this explains much.
20:22:32  <HDIEagle> i take autorun to mean run without any human interference other than inserting the media
20:22:37  <HDIEagle> as in, cd autorun
20:22:47  <narc> OTOH, I only ever work with the explorer folder view. Or Total Commander.
20:22:49  <HDIEagle> autorun.inf is simply the name of the file
20:22:59  <HDIEagle> the actual keys involved are "open" and "shellexecute"
20:23:03  <PublicServer> <Farden> yeah but it has a special action
20:23:17  <HDIEagle> i guess the proper term would be shellexecute
20:23:26  <satyap> or autoexec :)
20:23:33  * satyap needs to do some work
20:23:34  <PublicServer> <Farden> or whatever
20:24:35  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> you shouldn't calculate
20:24:39  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> the totals
20:24:45  <dangerdan> !password
20:24:45  <PublicServer> dangerdan: tepees
20:24:48  <PublicServer> <Farden> they will be recalculated anyway
20:24:52  <PublicServer> <Farden> it's just to show an idea
20:24:57  <HDIEagle> the reason why photo labs no longer accept flash drives is because of flash drives that emulate CD drives (u3)
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20:25:06  <HDIEagle> most photo labs*
20:25:18  <PublicServer> <Farden> well, use a VM system
20:25:22  <PublicServer> <Farden> and in case of virus
20:25:29  <PublicServer> <Farden> throw the VM and launch a new one
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20:25:41  <HDIEagle> thats real kludgy
20:25:50  <PublicServer> <Farden> no, VM are the future
20:25:56  <PublicServer> <Farden> or at least are supposed to be
20:25:59  <HDIEagle> should have someone that knows what their doing prevent the drive from being recognized
20:26:14  <narc> Flash drives don't emulate CD drives... usually.
20:26:18  <HDIEagle> W_DEVICECHANGED or something...
20:26:20  <HDIEagle> u3 drives do
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20:26:26  <PublicServer> <Farden> yeah, they emulate HDD
20:26:31  <PublicServer> <Farden> that's the default settings of the bios
20:26:36  <narc> Ah, speciall hardware.
20:26:39  <PublicServer> <Farden> but for example if you want to be able to boot
20:26:40  <narc> *special, even
20:26:43  <PublicServer> <Farden> with a flash drive
20:26:45  <HDIEagle> U3 drives are flash drives that emulate cd drives
20:26:49  <PublicServer> <Farden> you have to use it as a CDRom
20:27:02  <narc> Sure, as long as it reports "Hi, I am a CD drive" it works.
20:27:18  <narc> The Huawei "pebble" 3G modems do this.
20:27:20  <PublicServer> <Farden> yep, and as it is USB
20:27:26  <PublicServer> <Farden> it can change to everything
20:27:31  <PublicServer> <Farden> floppy, CD, HDD
20:27:35  <valhallasw> but that's not easy to do for a virus
20:27:41  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> so i win?
20:27:45  <HDIEagle> what? u3 drives are hardware
20:28:03  <PublicServer> <Farden> you don't even need a special flash drive
20:28:12  <PublicServer> <Farden> with some bios advnaced features
20:28:13  <PublicServer> <Farden> you can do that
20:28:15  <valhallasw> well, the question is wether the data on the 'cd drive u3' is writable
20:28:22  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> yeah, kind of like shooting yourself in the foot
20:28:27  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> right, farden?
20:28:29  <valhallasw> yes, but that's way too specific for a virus :p
20:28:35  <PublicServer> <Farden> when you know what you're doing
20:28:38  <PublicServer> <Farden> there's no danger^^
20:28:47  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> they probably have a second drive letter for write access
20:28:51  <narc> I think I'll bow out of this convo.
20:28:57  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> i don't know, how does windows handle cd drive write access?
20:29:02  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> does it attempt and fail or automatically fail?
20:29:07  <PublicServer> <Farden> no
20:29:12  <PublicServer> <Farden> it considers it as a CD-RW
20:29:16  <PublicServer> <Farden> so it can add files
20:29:19  <PublicServer> <Farden> but not modifies or remove
20:29:24  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> but windows makes a temp directory for cd-rw
20:29:29  <PublicServer> <Farden> and it has a temp buffer
20:29:30  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> you must explicitly burn to write to media
20:29:33  <PublicServer> <Farden> yes
20:29:38  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> oh ok
20:29:52  <PublicServer> <Farden> so, if the virus want to "write"
20:29:56  <narc> Hrm. I vaguely remember something about the UDF filesystem.
20:29:57  <PublicServer> <Farden> it use the temp buffer
20:30:02  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> what if you have 26 partitions, will the drive autorun?
20:30:03  <PublicServer> <Farden> and then, everything is possible
20:30:10  <PublicServer> <Farden> no
20:30:13  <PublicServer> <Farden> windows will crash^^
20:30:20  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> i don't think so...
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20:30:23  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> you can have unmounted drives
20:30:30  <PublicServer> <Farden> yeah
20:30:34  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> have you tried it? *is curious*
20:30:37  <PublicServer> <Farden> but there is an automount system
20:30:46  <PublicServer> <Farden> but thanks for the challenge
20:30:50  <PublicServer> <Farden> I'm powering up a VM
20:30:53  <narc> 26 drive letters isn't a big deal.
20:30:55  <PublicServer> <Farden> i'm gonna make it explode^^
20:31:02  <narc> Just mount a bunch of network drives.
20:31:08  <HDIEagle> yehyeh
20:31:21  <narc> Takes a lot of work to get that many in partitions, though.
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20:31:28  <HDIEagle> i have an R drive mapped to a temp directory on my d drive
20:31:34  <HDIEagle> :3
20:31:42  <HDIEagle> used to have a ram drive
20:31:47  <narc> Oh, and I think A and B are special
20:31:57  <HDIEagle> floppies only yeh?
20:32:13  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> or zip driver
20:32:15  <narc> Yah, but that probably extends to USB floppies.
20:32:29  <narc> ZIP drives emulate the floppy interface, I think.
20:32:39  <HDIEagle> 26 partitions is easier to say than 26 or 24 mounted volumes, depending on if you have 2 floppy drives or not, 25 if you have 1
20:32:56  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> you can tell windows the your BD drive is you Adrive
20:33:12  <narc> Drive letters, on the other hand, is perfectly easy to say.
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20:33:34  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> but it sounds so plebian
20:33:39  <SmatZ> planetmaker: I miss stats too :)
20:33:45  <Xaroth> I prefer the unix style of dealing with drives
20:33:47  <SmatZ> but I was overvoted :-p
20:33:47  <Farden> ok, I have a VM with 26 HDD
20:33:48  <narc> Too bad, it's official Windows verbiage.
20:33:50  <Farden> now booting
20:33:51  <Booth> who actauly uses real floppy drives
20:33:58  <planetmaker> :)
20:34:05  <Farden> and I will plug my flash drive
20:34:08  <Farden> to see what appens
20:34:20  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> got an external cd drive?
20:34:24  <planetmaker> SmatZ that was basically my point. It was interesting to see who actually worked on it.
20:34:29  <narc> Probably won't mount.
20:34:32  <planetmaker> (I just had a look this morning)
20:35:03  <narc> I had to use floppy drives recently (earlier this year). Very fun occasion.
20:35:14  <narc> I installed Debian on a 486.
20:35:20  <KenjiE20> <Booth> who actauly uses real floppy drives <-- I use a floppy to boot up spinrite every couple of months
20:35:25  <Farden> ok... so I have 24 HDD recognised
20:35:37  <Farden> plus 1 virtual floppy and 1 virtual CDROM
20:35:41  <Farden> all letters are taken
20:35:46  <narc> Great work.
20:35:54  <HDIEagle> KenjiE20: i have to re-learn how to make a boot disk on a flash drive every time i need to emergency-boot
20:36:29  <HDIEagle> Farden: cool, plug 'er in
20:36:41  <KenjiE20> still have all my old DOS ultra freememory boot diskettes :P
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20:36:45  <Farden> wait, I need to initialize the USB transfert
20:36:51  <Thijs2> !password
20:36:51  <Farden> to plug the flash drive into the VM
20:36:51  <PublicServer> Thijs2: caches
20:36:54  <Farden> and not into the host
20:37:05  <KenjiE20> back when you used to use a boot disk for each game :)
20:37:07  <HDIEagle> oh, thought you had a virtual flash drive :3
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20:37:52  <HDIEagle> did someone delete someones vote roster?
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20:38:37  <Farden> damn... need... more... ram
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20:39:18  <HDIEagle> anyone see this before? :
20:39:27  <HDIEagle> i so want one, but they're 0
20:39:32  <satyap> daemontools rocks my socks (cd for each game, i hate swapping)
20:39:36  <SmatZ> without memory?
20:39:38  <HDIEagle> yep
20:39:40  <HDIEagle> without memory
20:39:49  <SmatZ> expensive :(
20:39:52  <HDIEagle> yeah :(
20:40:02  <HDIEagle> it plugs in via sata
20:40:03  <satyap> i booted windows 3.x with a ram drive on a 4GB laptop 386 :)
20:40:05  <satyap> once.
20:40:06  <SmatZ> another 0 for 8GB...
20:40:15  <HDIEagle> i think it maxes at 2 or 4 gb
20:40:22  <valhallasw> HDIEagle: pci bus? :/
20:40:25  <satyap> 4MB, darnit.
20:40:29  <HDIEagle> 4 GB maximum
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20:40:39  <HDIEagle> it plugs in via SATA
20:40:41  <satyap> my old laptop was 4MB, is what i'm saying
20:40:44  <HDIEagle> the pci is for...something else
20:40:47  <narc> Hrm. 32-bit memory controller on that card?
20:40:48  * satyap sinks deeper into a mire of explanations
20:40:52  <valhallasw> HDIEagle: power, probably
20:40:53  <narc> PCI is probably for power.
20:40:58  <HDIEagle> yeh, power definitely
20:41:10  <HDIEagle> backup battery, pffrrt
20:41:12  <satyap> does spinrite actually work?
20:41:17  <PublicServer> <tneo> what happend to simply cast a vote
20:41:28  <narc> RAM clears itself if unpowered.
20:41:28  <KenjiE20> <satyap> does spinrite actually work? <-- friggin damn well, yes
20:41:29  <HDIEagle> plurality happened
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20:41:36  <PublicServer> <tneo> why making things complex
20:41:39  <satyap> cool
20:41:40  <HDIEagle> i want a ram drive for temporary storage
20:41:43  <HDIEagle> not permanent storage
20:41:45  <HDIEagle> :P
20:42:19  <HDIEagle> wish this wasnt a niche market
20:42:21  <SmatZ> hmmm RAMs are getting heaper, 8GB would be for just ~0
20:42:27  <KenjiE20> I run spinrite every couple months to be sure nothing is getting too off-kilter :)
20:42:45  <HDIEagle> not like you need ddr 800 either
20:43:02  <HDIEagle> sata will be the bottleneck
20:43:26  <narc> Meh. mount -t tmpfs tmp /mount/point
20:43:54  <Farden> ok!
20:43:56  <satyap> ^ :)
20:43:58  <HDIEagle> can you copy an entire game to that mount for windows emulatioN?
20:44:00  <Farden> it's done!
20:44:05  <tneo> one shouldn't vote for himself
20:44:06  <Farden> and
20:44:09  <HDIEagle> results?
20:44:14  <Farden> it doesn't appear anywhere
20:44:17  <narc> It didn't mount.
20:44:21  <Farden> indeed narc
20:44:26  <narc> Not surprised.
20:44:26  <satyap> what does mount say?
20:44:26  <HDIEagle> lol
20:44:28  <Farden> it didn't mount in a letter
20:44:29  <HDIEagle> didn't crash
20:44:29  <Farden> BUT
20:44:32  <HDIEagle> did it?
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20:44:36  <Farden> it mount in a ntfs drive
20:44:40  <Farden> \nameofthekey
20:44:45  <HDIEagle> O.o
20:44:46  <narc> Hah, sweet.
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20:44:52  <HDIEagle> who the hell programmed that?
20:44:59  <Farden> you can also do that with hard drives
20:45:04  <Farden> if you have more than 26
20:45:08  <HDIEagle> lol
20:45:21  <narc> I think you get that with any drive, actually.
20:45:23  <narc> Hrm.
20:45:26  <Farden> yep
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20:46:10  <narc> Though I expected \?\name-of-device or something like that.
20:46:27  <narc> I vaguely recall that being a valid addressing mechanism.
20:47:08  <Farden> well... it doesn't appends often^^
20:47:13  <KenjiE20> \device\name is valid SAMBA naming
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20:47:28  <narc> That's just it -- it's SMB naming.
20:47:34  <HDlEagle> yay eee pc
20:47:44  <narc> What if there's a computer on the network with same name?
20:48:01  <KenjiE20> xp explodes
20:48:09  <HDlEagle> thought it was \msnet\comp
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20:48:31  <Farden> it's \WORKGROUP\comp
20:48:34  <Farden> or something else
20:48:34  <KenjiE20> it's \networkname\sharename
20:48:36  <Farden> can be defined
20:48:46  <Farden> but default is \workgroup
20:48:47  <Farden> and
20:48:49  <HDlEagle> my network is MSHOME :P
20:48:52  <Farden> it can be omitted
20:48:52  <narc> Fine, a workgroup with the same name :P
20:48:52  <KenjiE20> or \workgroup
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20:48:57  <Farden> so if you type \comp
20:49:01  <Farden> it will work
20:49:02  <HDlEagle> use \COMP
20:49:07  <KenjiE20> but \workgroup validates to a PC
20:49:12  <Farden> even if you didn't typed \mshome or \workgroup
20:49:16  <HDlEagle> unless you named your comp the same as workgroup the same as flashdrive
20:49:17  <narc> Meh.
20:49:21  <KenjiE20> and is served up by a computer acting as master browser
20:49:38  <narc> SMB is ugly.
20:49:41  <KenjiE20> yup
20:49:41  <Farden> ^^
20:49:46  <Farden> yep
20:49:54  <HDlEagle> why are we speculating? you have a VM runnin
20:49:55  <KenjiE20> works though
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20:50:08  <Farden> cause I shutted it down
20:50:14  <HDlEagle> :(
20:50:26  <Farden> I don't want to spend my nights trying to find bugs in windwos^^
20:50:50  <Farden> they already have enougth
20:51:17  <HDlEagle> such as
20:51:23  <KenjiE20> tough, you're going to, so nuurr
20:51:25  <HDlEagle> (i'll regret this)
20:51:34  <Farden> explorer.exe crashes
20:51:50  <KenjiE20> I love the explorer timing bug
20:52:25  <HDlEagle> you mean, like, from a timer rolling over?
20:52:29  <KenjiE20> gets all screwy with multicores and you end up with multiple taskbars all sitting in one
20:52:40  <Farden> really?
20:52:43  <Farden> I never had that one
20:52:46  <KenjiE20> so you end up with like 3 entries for one program
20:52:46  <Farden> and I have a dual core
20:52:48  <HDlEagle> dual core count?
20:52:53  <KenjiE20> yup
20:52:58  <KenjiE20> it's a stock SP2 bug
20:52:58  <HDlEagle> never had it
20:53:01  <Farden> and now a quad core with hyperthreading
20:53:04  <HDlEagle> i has SP3
20:53:05  <Farden> but I have seven
20:53:07  <Farden> not XP
20:53:16  <KenjiE20> yea, xp sp2
20:53:21  <Farden> (but I had XP before and it never happened)
20:53:34  <HDlEagle> linux is allowed to update
20:53:39  <HDlEagle> why not windows
20:53:41  <KenjiE20> best way around it is to either autologin or type your pwd really wuick :)
20:53:51  <KenjiE20> quick*
20:54:20  <HDlEagle> ?
20:55:06  <Booth> has everyone voted?
20:55:19  <KenjiE20> no
20:55:23  <Farden> patience, chris, patience^^
20:55:23  <planetmaker> no
20:55:34  <HDlEagle> we know you're excited
20:55:56  <HDlEagle> but pacific islanders must be able to vote to
20:56:28  <PublicServer> <Radicalimero> hello, i'm new to openttdcoop
20:56:37  <Farden> welcome
20:56:40  <satyap> hello
20:56:41  <PublicServer> <Radicalimero> thx
20:56:44  <KenjiE20> you're not that new
20:56:45  <HDlEagle> how'd you get in our server without help? LOL, hi
20:56:48  <KenjiE20> you made it in game
20:56:56  <PublicServer> <Radicalimero> haha
20:57:10  <PublicServer> <Radicalimero> got a really good wiki
20:57:56  <KenjiE20> got a out-of-date wiki <-- fixed :P
20:58:10  <Farden> not THAT out of date^^
20:58:20  <Farden> it's still usable
20:58:22  <Farden> see?^^
20:58:23  <KenjiE20> a good chunk of it is
20:58:41  <HDlEagle> i wonder if he knows which way's north? that'd make my day
20:58:51  <HDlEagle> mt
20:59:02  <KenjiE20> fail
20:59:02  <Farden> north?
20:59:04  <KenjiE20> :)
20:59:04  <Farden> it's that way
20:59:07  <Farden> ^
20:59:16  <Radicalimero> really :P
20:59:18  <Farden> ^^
20:59:28  <HDlEagle> i thought we went by ^<
20:59:36  <KenjiE20> @wiki compass
20:59:39  <Webster> Compass - #openttdcoop Wiki -
20:59:42  <narc> Top-left, aye.
20:59:48  <HDlEagle> LOL
20:59:55  <HDlEagle> oh, he was kidding
21:00:13  <narc> Yah.
21:01:51  <Booth> Radicalimero do you need help?
21:02:02  <Radicalimero> i do think so
21:02:09  <HDlEagle> jargon
21:02:10  <Booth> what with?
21:02:20  <Booth> just ask us
21:02:29  <Booth> we love being asked wuestion we know the answers to
21:02:34  <Booth> makes us feel important
21:02:35  <Radicalimero> i gues i look first before joyning
21:02:42  <Radicalimero> :P
21:02:56  <Farden> we're in the voting phase
21:02:59  <Farden> just read the instructions
21:03:04  <Farden> and if you have any questions
21:03:06  <Farden> we're all here
21:03:12  <Radicalimero> but i don't knowwich plan is best
21:03:39  <Farden> you don't have to vote
21:03:44  <Farden> if you don't know what to vote for
21:03:47  <Farden> just observe
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21:03:59  <Radicalimero> i think i just do that
21:04:19  <Booth> just vote for the plan you like the shematic of
21:04:26  <Booth> as thats what you will have to build
21:04:26  <planetmaker> Radicalimero: well, join the server and don't be afraid to join the company, either.
21:04:38  <PublicServer> *** Radicalimero has joined company #1
21:05:03  <planetmaker> !help
21:05:03  <PublicServer> planetmaker:
21:05:48  <narc> I think I'll be off; nn, guys.
21:05:56  <planetmaker> there's somewhere a nice article on how to start here...
21:05:57  <KenjiE20> nn
21:06:01  <planetmaker> night, narc
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21:06:07  <KenjiE20> @qiki quickstart
21:06:10  <KenjiE20> @wiki quickstart
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21:06:15  <planetmaker> :)
21:06:17  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki -
21:06:21  <KenjiE20> not having a good night for typing tonight >_>
21:06:28  <planetmaker> ^^ Radicalimero
21:06:46  <planetmaker> that web page gives a good introduction
21:06:55  <Radicalimero> i'll look @ it
21:07:18  <KenjiE20> if you get stuck on jargon
21:07:20  <KenjiE20> @glossary
21:07:20  <Webster> bananas, bbh, cl, coop, distantjoin, ecs, ecsvectors, ice, is, lb, ll, ml, mm, nars, pax, pbs, pf, prio, prios, ps, roro, rr, rv, rvs, setdef, sl, slh, sml, srnw, stationwalk, stationwalking, tf, tgv, TL, ttt, yapf, h2h, 2cc
21:07:28  <KenjiE20> ^ you can ask the bot about those
21:07:34  <planetmaker> eh. nice. didn't know that :)
21:07:40  <planetmaker> @bbh
21:07:40  <Webster> Back Bone Hub, see:
21:08:06  <KenjiE20> pm; why d'you think Webster was called Webster? :P
21:08:13  <planetmaker> :P
21:08:16  <Radicalimero> haha
21:08:45  <KenjiE20> thats why he also responds to 'define: ' amongst other things
21:08:55  <HDIEagle> !password
21:08:55  <PublicServer> HDIEagle: swarms
21:08:57  <Booth> !fish
21:08:57  <PublicServer> Booth: Today's fish is smoked eel on toast with horseradish cream.
21:09:05  <planetmaker> !fish
21:09:05  <PublicServer> planetmaker: Today's fish is sashimi with a trace of blowfish.
21:09:06  <Booth> fish still wroks
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21:09:11  <planetmaker> hm...
21:09:16  <KenjiE20> horseradish cream?
21:09:19  <planetmaker> Booth: it's part of autopilot
21:09:20  <KenjiE20> O.o
21:09:29  <Booth> and i have been put on the nice fish list
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21:09:35  <Booth> i used to get no fish for you
21:09:38  <Booth> everyday
21:09:47  <planetmaker> KenjiE20 what's wrong with horseradish?
21:09:53  <KenjiE20> nothing
21:10:01  <KenjiE20> just never heard of it called 'cream'
21:10:28  <planetmaker> well. horseradish cream is just that: minced horseradish mixed with cream
21:10:32  <planetmaker> very tasty
21:10:32  <Booth> what is horseradish if it isnt a cream?
21:10:40  <planetmaker> Booth: a root
21:11:10  <KenjiE20> we jsut call it horseradish, and horseradish root
21:11:18  <planetmaker> aye
21:11:19  <KenjiE20> or plant
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21:11:38  <Booth> we call it a radish or horseraddish cream
21:11:41  <planetmaker> that happens if non-native speakers mess with these texts :P
21:11:51  <KenjiE20> or horseradish powder
21:11:57  <KenjiE20> if we happen to have some
21:12:15  <planetmaker> well... there are differences IMO
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21:12:31  <KenjiE20> or horseradish (fried) peas, or ice cream
21:12:38  <KenjiE20> mmmm
21:12:45  <planetmaker> between powder, minced horseraddish and minced horseraddish with cream :)
21:12:48  <Booth> egg and bacon icecream
21:12:52  <planetmaker> ice cream...
21:12:56  * planetmaker is off for a bit :P
21:12:57  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> which i hear isn't that bad
21:13:02  <KenjiE20> it's not
21:13:05  <KenjiE20> it's quite nice
21:13:15  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> sounds strangely delicious
21:13:20  <hylje> bacon makes everything better
21:13:20  <KenjiE20> highly refreshing
21:13:33  <Booth> chilly icecream is realy nice
21:13:45  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> you mean, not quite frozen, not quite melted?
21:13:53  <Booth> no
21:13:53  <gleeb> !password
21:13:54  <PublicServer> gleeb: swarms
21:13:54  <hylje> how is it /ice/ cream if it's not chilly
21:14:02  <Booth> chilly the fruit
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21:14:15  <Booth> the spicy things
21:14:21  <Booth> max an icream of them
21:14:23  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> well, theres a continuim of cold
21:14:37  <Radicalimero> to vote just add signs?
21:14:44  <HDIEagle> continuum?
21:14:51  <Booth> no more signs please
21:15:01  <KenjiE20> <Radicalimero> to vote just add signs? <-- preferably following the voting rules, but yes
21:15:04  <PublicServer> <Gleeb> When does voting end?
21:15:13  <PublicServer> <Gleeb> It's too complex for me to care about it right now.
21:15:41  <KenjiE20> hmm, wonder if I can make an elarobare 'ping-me-when-the-game-starts' trigger
21:15:52  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> i have to leave in 2 hrs :(
21:15:54  * KenjiE20 will have a go shortly
21:16:19  <Booth> kenji it would be possible
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21:16:27  <Booth> link to to the stage changing
21:16:33  <Booth> for voting to building
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21:16:46  <Wall-D> !password
21:16:46  <PublicServer> Wall-D: swarms
21:16:47  <planetmaker> Radicalimero: just add your vote to the voting board
21:16:53  <KenjiE20> that would rely on people using the right changing
21:16:54  <Booth> its to late to start tonight
21:16:56  <planetmaker> like the others did
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21:17:16  <KenjiE20> and alias not falling over the topic command
21:17:18  <planetmaker> I guess we'll start only tomorrow (European time) though
21:17:26  <HDIEagle> what time's that?
21:17:36  <KenjiE20> tomorrow
21:17:41  <planetmaker> UT / UT+1 / UT+2
21:17:47  <planetmaker> UT+3
21:17:54  <PublicServer> <Gleeb> Well, I'll vote later.
21:17:56  <HDIEagle> 10 AM or 2 PM
21:18:06  <Farden> gn all
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21:18:10  <KenjiE20> tomorrow <--
21:18:14  <KenjiE20> :P
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21:18:21  <planetmaker> he :) Don't ask me, HDIEagle :) I'll be at work either time
21:18:25  <KenjiE20> vagueness :)
21:19:03  <planetmaker> HDIEagle: obviously it needs some people around and preferrably also the winning plan's creator.
21:19:13  <Booth> it also depend on who is declared the winner
21:19:18  <Booth> and when they are next online
21:19:34  <planetmaker> A good guess - as it's Friday - would be somewhen afternoon hours.
21:19:36  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> does that classify as third person were booth to win?
21:19:43  <planetmaker> Rather later than early, though
21:20:06  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> your laster may be my earlier
21:20:09  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> later*
21:20:20  <planetmaker> :)
21:20:29  <planetmaker> Whereever you are: yes
21:20:44  <planetmaker> I'm living in CEST right now
21:20:45  <Booth> well if i win it will be arround 9PM BST
21:21:00  <PublicServer> <HD1Eagle> chris b: the conditional third person :3
21:21:10  <Mark> !password
21:21:10  <PublicServer> Mark: arched
21:21:19  <planetmaker> Booth: not daylight saving time in Britain?
21:21:21  <PublicServer> *** Mark joined the game
21:21:23  <Booth> no 3rd person
21:21:42  <HDIEagle> can we have all times in GMT
21:21:43  <Booth> its my plan building doesnt start without consent of the designer of the winning plan
21:21:54  <Booth> be the Mark Combuster PM or me
21:22:04  <Booth> GMT isnt used atm
21:22:16  <Booth> but i jsut realised i am not going to be on atall tomoz
21:22:20  <planetmaker> Booth: it is always used and quite a good thing to use GMT
21:22:31  <KenjiE20> GMT = UTC and therefore always used
21:22:36  <planetmaker> because people then don't have to worry about time zones. Only their own.
21:22:50  <planetmaker> KenjiE20: except 13 seconds or so :P
21:23:02  <KenjiE20> pfft
21:23:28  <Booth> well if i win it will be 8 am GMT on sat
21:23:43  <PublicServer> <Mark> we're not going to wait for that
21:24:02  <Booth> you will have to
21:24:09  <HDIEagle> better document your plan better
21:24:16  <PublicServer> <Mark> we dont have to do anything
21:24:27  <PublicServer> <Mark> if you're not around we'll just take the second one
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21:24:38  <PublicServer> <Mark> you cant ask 20 or more people to wait a day
21:24:40  <Booth> thats not fair
21:24:47  <HDIEagle> don't tell me not fair
21:24:49  <PublicServer> <Mark> then time better next time
21:24:50  <HDIEagle> i'm gmt -8
21:24:53  <planetmaker> we never waited that long
21:25:04  <planetmaker> tomorrow will be played.
21:25:19  <KenjiE20> life's not fair, get used to it
21:25:20  <PublicServer> <Mark> either allow us to start without you or withdraw
21:25:20  <Booth> ok will be on tomoz at sometime
21:25:29  <planetmaker> -8 is West coast US or so...
21:25:33  <KenjiE20> yea
21:25:41  <PublicServer> <Mark> or china
21:25:48  <planetmaker> No
21:25:48  <PublicServer> <Mark> nvm
21:25:49  <KenjiE20> thats +8
21:25:51  <PublicServer> <Mark> :P
21:25:54  <HDIEagle> :P
21:26:09  <Booth> or south america somewhere
21:26:12  <HDIEagle> lol
21:26:22  <planetmaker> yeah :)
21:26:38  <planetmaker> My guess is that there are a lot of people around at 15h GMT.
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21:26:51  <planetmaker> as it's Friday and people are easily bored :P
21:26:56  <Mark> i wont be
21:27:01  <Mark> loooong day tomorrow
21:27:02  * planetmaker neither
21:27:19  <planetmaker> I'll have guests
21:27:20  <KenjiE20> <Booth> or south america somewhere <-- how would that work?
21:27:29  <HDIEagle> man-made island
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21:27:32  <planetmaker> KenjiE20: same time zone?
21:27:34  <KenjiE20> when was the last time you looked at a map?
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21:27:39  <planetmaker> or?
21:27:55  <HDIEagle> KenjiE20: how do you know i'm not an evil supervillain with his own private island?
21:27:56  <KenjiE20> S.Americ is closer to +0 than west coast USA
21:28:18  <Mark> not all of it
21:28:20  <KenjiE20> HDIEagle, I don't
21:28:27  <planetmaker> nvm. yes
21:28:27  <KenjiE20> actually
21:28:30  <Mark> florida and chile line up i think
21:28:34  <KenjiE20>
21:28:36  <KenjiE20> ^
21:28:48  <KenjiE20> florida isn't west coast Mark
21:28:58  <Mark> didnt say it was :P
21:29:01  <Booth> ok very little is actauly in -8
21:29:38  <HDIEagle> is Gambier Islands GMT -8
21:29:50  <Mark> galapagos
21:29:53  <Mark> lots of people there
21:29:58  <Booth> next week will be my last week on coop for 6 weeks
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21:30:06  <burcew> Need Sex? Get Laid!
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21:30:21  * KenjiE20 click
21:30:23  <KenjiE20> :P
21:30:33  <planetmaker> pitcairn islands are
21:30:34  <HDIEagle> my autoparser doesn't swing that way
21:30:56  <KenjiE20> that was quite high speed spam
21:31:20  <Booth> it missed prozone out
21:31:39  <Mark> yeah i doubt anyone invited it
21:32:04  <KenjiE20> lol, limit is still on in .pro?
21:32:12  <planetmaker> no
21:32:33  <KenjiE20> channel mode is +ntl 19
21:32:40  <Booth> pro zones doesnt even have a real game on it anymore
21:33:15  <Mark> lol
21:33:16  <KenjiE20> happy now booth, it made it to .pro
21:33:18  <Mark> say what booth?
21:33:48  <Booth> the game is in 1900
21:33:57  <Booth> has nothing you can build or build with
21:34:14  <Mark> you missed the context
21:34:26  <Mark> anyway im off to bed
21:34:30  <Mark> night
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21:35:36  <HDIEagle> is thar a sandbox server?
21:35:58  <Booth> sandbox?
21:36:05  <HDIEagle> where you can do anything you want
21:36:07  <KenjiE20> nope, although last time pz was ran it almost was
21:36:18  <HDIEagle> define: pz
21:36:20  <KenjiE20> just whip up a flat scen in the editor
21:36:28  <KenjiE20> ProZone
21:36:28  <HDIEagle> interactivity it lacks
21:36:42  <hylje> completely flat
21:36:58  <Booth> no one plays on it
21:37:03  <Booth> its a pointless server
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21:37:21  <HDIEagle> end of file?
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21:47:50  <HDIEagle> what if we only had to have signals every 6 tiles....
21:48:31  <Booth> then we would need 3 times as many lines
21:48:35  <SmatZ> hehe
21:48:49  <HDIEagle> what if those lines doubled traffic?
21:49:18  <Radicalimero> it would triple if every 2 tiles or not
21:49:53  <HDIEagle> this is a hypothetical
21:49:58  <Radicalimero> k
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21:56:50  <planetmaker> good night folks & happy voting & playing :)
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21:58:16  <PeterT> !password
21:58:16  <PublicServer> PeterT: cavity
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22:01:57  <PeterT> !password
22:01:57  <PublicServer> PeterT: cavity
22:02:08  <PublicServer> *** Peter joined the game
22:02:12  <PublicServer> <Peter> sup, who won?
22:02:21  <HDIEagle> it starts tommorow
22:02:23  <HDIEagle> gmt
22:02:27  <HDIEagle> i guess...
22:02:32  <PublicServer> <Peter> what does
22:02:37  <Booth> no one has won
22:02:38  <KenjiE20> ./topic Readme
22:02:42  <Booth> voting is still on
22:02:45  <PublicServer> <Peter> oh
22:02:46  <PublicServer> <Peter> ok
22:02:56  <Booth> but no more planing
22:03:14  <PublicServer> <Peter> wow, thats sad. mensi doesnt even vote for himself
22:03:31  <mensi> dude I'm swiss
22:03:44  <Xaroth> yer human
22:03:50  <HDIEagle> hes got a point
22:03:52  <HDIEagle> the x-man
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22:03:59  <PublicServer> <Peter> :(
22:04:02  <Xaroth> self-preservation is one of the most dominant human traits
22:04:04  <[com]buster> !password
22:04:04  <PublicServer> [com]buster: cavity
22:04:18  <PublicServer> *** combuster joined the game
22:04:37  <HDIEagle> i'm doing experiments
22:04:52  <mensi> I like Marks plan because of the SRNW part
22:04:54  <PublicServer> <combuster> lol contrast votes at my plan
22:05:08  <mensi> and Booths because its simple and does PAX and cargo
22:05:13  <PublicServer> <Peter> im guessing building trains before we actually start biulding is against the rules?
22:05:20  <KenjiE20> yes
22:05:23  <PublicServer> <Peter> building trains like little stations for testing?
22:05:26  <PublicServer> <Peter> ok
22:05:29  <KenjiE20> yes
22:05:32  <PublicServer> <Peter> got it
22:05:37  <Booth> OMG michael jackson has died
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22:06:01  <mensi> really?
22:06:05  <mensi> finally...
22:06:26  <PublicServer> <combuster> :s <- face twisted between happy and sad
22:06:29  <Booth> it was reported by LA times only
22:06:35  <PublicServer> *** mensi has left the game (leaving)
22:06:39  <KenjiE20> @
22:06:46  <HDIEagle> srsly?
22:07:08  <Booth> 100%
22:07:40  <dangerdan> !password
22:07:40  <PublicServer> dangerdan: crocus
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22:07:58  <HDIEagle> all i can think of is negrounds + mj = ???
22:08:04  <HDIEagle> newgrounds*
22:08:23  <KenjiE20> = profit
22:08:31  <mensi> sorry but mj had it coming
22:08:48  <mensi> he's responsible for his own death
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22:12:01  <SmatZ> mensi: how do you mean?
22:12:36  <mensi> with all his surgery and crazy stuff
22:13:54  <SmatZ> umm
22:15:18  <HDIEagle> do celebrities really have all that much to do with our lives?
22:16:57  * SmatZ doesn't like word "celebrity"
22:17:05  <SmatZ> just I like his music
22:17:18  <SmatZ> and wanted to go to his concert, if there was ever any
22:17:19  <PublicServer> <combuster> He's got good songs
22:17:22  <HDIEagle> and thats all he should be rememberd for
22:17:26  <PublicServer> <combuster> Just do not want to see his face :)
22:17:28  <SmatZ> indeed
22:17:43  <HDIEagle> unless your a philosophical twat who thinks that his life is a symbol of racial...poop
22:17:44  <PublicServer> <combuster> HDIeagle +1
22:17:58  <HDIEagle> music, thats all.
22:18:34  <HDIEagle> also: alien ant farm? bleh
22:18:49  * SmatZ doesn't listen to that
22:19:04  <HDIEagle> moar liek alien pants farm
22:19:49  <SmatZ> it's not disco, it's not techno, it's not trance
22:19:53  <SmatZ> it's not interesting :-p
22:20:32  <KenjiE20> SmatZ +1
22:20:52  <SmatZ> :-)
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22:24:26  <HDIEagle> i'm doing some weird poop
22:24:34  <SmatZ> enojy
22:24:55  <HDIEagle> http://1186250293:8082/poop1.png
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22:26:01  <HDIEagle> what say you combuster? http://1186250293:8082/poop1.png
22:26:05  <HDIEagle> and, hi
22:27:37  <Radicalimero> that was you're every 6 tiles question
22:27:55  <HDIEagle> :3
22:31:10  <SmatZ> HDIEagle: actually, I expected something like
22:31:22  <HDIEagle> O.o
22:31:30  <Radicalimero> lol
22:31:35  <HDIEagle> tmi
22:33:09  <HDIEagle> it makes for very interesting SLH's
22:33:16  <HDIEagle> if we get signals on bridges and tunnels...
22:33:38  <Radicalimero> than it is an excellent idea
22:33:45  <HDIEagle> until then...
22:33:49  <HDIEagle> poop
22:33:53  <Radicalimero> double trafic on same tiles
22:34:17  <HDIEagle> i'm making a 4x4
22:34:21  <HDIEagle> thats only one side
22:34:47  <HDIEagle> of course, if we had signals on bridges and tunnels
22:34:52  <HDIEagle> you could just make a 24 tile bridge
22:35:11  <Radicalimero> than it doesn't matter
22:35:20  <HDIEagle> but the slh would still be relevant
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22:43:19  <HDIEagle> thar, i finished half of it
22:44:43  <HDIEagle> http://1186250293:8082/poop2.png
22:45:32  <Radicalimero> looks nice
22:45:45  <SmatZ> yeah
22:45:59  <SmatZ> I have seen this (or similiar) design several times
22:46:02  <SmatZ> and I still like it :)
22:46:06  <KenjiE20> whats the assumed TL?
22:46:09  <SmatZ> the problem is the signal gap
22:46:11  <HDIEagle> 3
22:46:13  <HDIEagle> lol
22:46:46  <HDIEagle> signal every 6
22:46:54  <HDIEagle> its also high tf
22:47:15  <KenjiE20> would still need doubled bridges assuming signal on brides patch not active
22:47:26  <KenjiE20> bridges*
22:48:07  <HDIEagle> signal every 6 is 1/3rd capacity, theoretically
22:48:16  <HDIEagle> but acceleration...
22:48:33  <HDIEagle> need to do some lab tests
22:48:40  <HDIEagle> or some calculus
22:49:18  * KenjiE20 rethinks
22:49:28  <KenjiE20> hmm, might be right
22:49:38  <HDIEagle> whatis
22:49:57  <KenjiE20> not doubling
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22:52:46  <HDIEagle> whats the best way to test
22:53:22  <KenjiE20> queue up a metric ass ton of trains and let them loose?
22:53:44  <HDIEagle> maybe do a hopper of 8 tracks to the line
22:54:20  <HDIEagle> ascents are...tricky
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23:05:26  <HDIEagle> alright
23:05:34  <HDIEagle> i made a 3 wide ascent and a 4 wide ascent
23:06:06  <HDIEagle> they're pretty consequential
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23:10:03  <HDIEagle> http://1186250293:8082/poop3.png
23:10:54  <HDIEagle> ugly :P
23:10:59  <mensi> !password
23:11:00  <PublicServer> mensi: jersey
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23:11:50  <KenjiE20> you could build those bridges straight over the tunnels you know
23:12:10  <KenjiE20> oh wait
23:12:13  <KenjiE20> I see now
23:12:23  <KenjiE20> elevation change
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23:19:03  <HDIEagle> i have a test track set up
23:19:09  <HDIEagle> a standard 2 lane, and the 4 lane
23:19:20  <HDIEagle> signals every 2, 6 respectively
23:19:39  <Radicalimero> and?
23:19:49  <HDIEagle> i'm going to run it :3
23:20:15  <Radicalimero> can't wait
23:21:17  <HDIEagle> how should i inject?
23:22:07  <Radicalimero> good question
23:22:16  <KenjiE20> carefully with a new needle
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23:22:50  <HDIEagle> i think i got it...
23:23:02  <KenjiE20> now ride the high
23:23:04  <KenjiE20> :P
23:23:20  <HDIEagle> now just the starting gun
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23:25:15  <HDIEagle> looks like it will have to wait for tonight
23:25:29  <Radicalimero> :( why
23:25:37  <HDIEagle> gotta go to work
23:26:08  <Radicalimero> that's what you get @ -8
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23:27:17  <HDIEagle> if its any reconciliation, starting gun is done
23:27:23  <HDIEagle> injection complete
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23:27:56  <Radicalimero> and...
23:28:40  <SmatZ> @seen calimero
23:28:40  <Webster> SmatZ: I have not seen calimero.
23:28:42  <SmatZ> @seen calimera
23:28:42  <Webster> SmatZ: I have not seen calimera.
23:28:49  <HDIEagle> i have to add signals :P
23:28:52  <SmatZ> your nick is familiar to me :)
23:28:52  <kenji> @seen cali*
23:28:52  <Webster> kenji: I haven't seen anyone matching cali*.
23:29:03  <kenji> @seen *cali*
23:29:03  <Webster> kenji: *cali* could be Radicalimero (1 minute and 6 seconds ago) or Apocalipsys (3 days, 22 hours, 54 minutes, and 50 seconds ago)
23:29:10  <Radicalimero> yes
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23:32:46  <Matt123> !password
23:32:46  <PublicServer> Matt123: tablet
23:33:09  <Matt123> !password
23:33:09  <PublicServer> Matt123: tablet
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23:35:24  <KenjiE20|LT> how nice
23:36:51  <PeterT> what
23:37:12  <PeterT> !password
23:37:13  <PublicServer> PeterT: stigma
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23:43:05  <HDIEagle> oooh this is a close one
23:43:11  <PublicServer> <Peter> what is
23:43:14  <PublicServer> <Matt> ?
23:43:19  <Radicalimero> is it
23:43:25  <PublicServer> <Peter> whats a close one?
23:43:26  <HDIEagle> uhhhh
23:43:35  <HDIEagle> its between 1 and 2 times more capacity
23:43:41  <HDIEagle> the 4x4 vs 2x2
23:43:50  <HDIEagle> bias betwee 1.4 and 2
23:44:01  <Radicalimero> so it's faster?
23:44:05  <HDIEagle> maybe
23:44:07  <HDIEagle> they went too fast
23:44:12  <Radicalimero> lol
23:44:17  <HDIEagle> it definitely is faster
23:44:22  <HDIEagle> by how much i don't know
23:44:28  <Radicalimero> ok
23:44:34  <HDIEagle> you may not like my testing metric, i don't know
23:44:38  <Radicalimero> didn't expect that
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23:44:51  <HDIEagle> http://1186250293:8082/4x4vs2v2.sav
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23:45:02  <HDIEagle> test it for yourself
23:45:06  <HDIEagle> just shoot the starting train
23:45:49  <Radicalimero> i'll try
23:46:28  <HDIEagle> interestingly, the first 4 trains arrived at same time as the first 2 trains on 2x2
23:46:46  <HDIEagle> and the next 4 about 1.33* laster
23:46:48  <HDIEagle> later
23:46:50  <HDIEagle> 1-1.33
23:46:54  <Radicalimero> i don't think that's intresting
23:47:09  <Radicalimero> more logical
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23:51:36  <HDIEagle> everyone download http://1186250293:8082/4x4vs2v2.sav ? i'm shutting down my computer
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23:51:57  <HDIEagle> peace
23:52:13  <Radicalimero> night :P
23:52:26  <SmatZ> what's that, HDIEagle?
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23:59:11  <Hafai> !versopm
23:59:14  <Hafai> !version
23:59:14  <PublicServer> Hafai: Autopilot AP+ 3.0 Beta (r699M)
23:59:27  <Hafai> !password
23:59:27  <PublicServer> Hafai: bonnet
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