Log for #openttdcoop on 10th August 2009:
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00:04:16  <Webster> <@planetm4ker> seriously, do you follow the discussion or just add random comments?
00:04:21  *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v PeterT
00:04:37  <PeterT> !password
00:04:37  <PublicServer> PeterT: soring
00:04:47  <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players)
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00:05:30  <SmatZ> [02:04:25] <Webster> <@planetm4ker> seriously, do you follow the discussion or just add random comments? <== what is this spam?
00:05:59  <SmatZ> is it a reply to PeterT's join? :)
00:06:10  <tussengas> nah, its not only at peters'
00:06:31  <tussengas> but i think it's true that it is usualy after someone joins
00:09:25  <OwenS> SmatZ: Automatic comment on PeterT joining, yes
00:10:43  <SmatZ> hehe
00:13:28  <PublicServer> <tussengas> peter building?
00:13:35  * KenjiE20 wonders why PeterT felt the need to mess with / break Combusters counter
00:13:35  <PublicServer> <Peter> nope
00:13:50  <PublicServer> <Peter> there, put it back
00:14:49  <PublicServer> <Peter> sorry, its working now
00:15:02  <PublicServer> *** tussengas has left the game (leaving)
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00:15:50  <KenjiE20> good, though you didn't have to force the train, it self-fixes
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00:17:35  <PublicServer> <Peter> how the hell do you know that i forced the train?
00:17:40  <KenjiE20> magic
00:17:50  <PublicServer> <Peter> WITCH!
00:17:56  <PublicServer> <Peter> burn him
00:18:17  <KenjiE20> witch is the wrong gender
00:18:24  <tussengas> i prever crusifixxes
00:18:28  <KenjiE20> I'll have you know it's warlock
00:18:37  * KenjiE20 turns PeterT into a newt
00:18:48  <KenjiE20> also a mute
00:18:53  *** KenjiE20 sets mode: -v PeterT
00:18:55  <KenjiE20> :D
00:18:56  <tussengas> :P
00:19:05  <tussengas> poor peter
00:19:13  <PublicServer> <Peter> lol
00:19:21  <tussengas> hmm :P
00:19:33  <tussengas> stubborn newt :p
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00:19:43  <PublicServer> <Peter> i said witch on purpose (burn!!!)
00:19:46  <KenjiE20> apparently he got better
00:19:49  <neuroticus> !password
00:19:49  <PublicServer> neuroticus: raster
00:20:15  <tussengas> btw, how many minutes between every password switch?
00:20:18  <tussengas> and why!
00:20:40  <KenjiE20> 5 and to stop banned people rejoining
00:20:46  <KenjiE20> amongst other things
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00:21:20  <Webster> <@planetm4ker> seriously, do you follow the discussion or just add random comments?
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00:22:34  <neuroticus> !win64
00:22:40  <neuroticus> !help
00:22:40  <PublicServer> neuroticus:
00:22:44  <tussengas> !dl win64
00:22:44  <PublicServer> tussengas:
00:22:45  <tussengas> ?
00:22:59  <neuroticus> ta mate
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00:25:05  <neuroticus> !password
00:25:05  <PublicServer> neuroticus: lepers
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00:25:33  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> Hey guys :) voting?
00:25:43  <KenjiE20|LT> @topic get 3
00:25:43  <Webster> KenjiE20|LT: STAGE: Voting
00:26:05  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> How do we have so much money to start anyway?
00:26:13  <tussengas> hacks :p
00:26:31  <tussengas> i assume we started with a 1billion cheat
00:26:34  <KenjiE20|LT> cause that's how the save was?
00:26:55  <Maza> @topic get 9
00:26:55  <Webster> Maza: Coopetition ladder:
00:26:55  <tussengas> correction, it was saved with an 1billion cheat :p
00:27:01  <Maza> @topic get 10
00:27:14  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> ?
00:27:16  <Maza> @topic get 11
00:27:32  <Maza> hmm, found a bug on webster
00:27:46  <Maza> it replies  Error: '9' is not a valid topic number.
00:27:55  <Maza> when I actually said 10
00:28:13  <tussengas> @topic get 10
00:28:17  <tussengas> @topic get 9
00:28:17  <Webster> tussengas: Coopetition ladder:
00:28:19  <KenjiE20|LT> pfft there are many
00:28:24  <tussengas> @topic get 8
00:28:24  <Webster> tussengas: Get a userpage if you don't have one yet
00:28:39  <tussengas> @topic get 5
00:28:39  <Webster> tussengas: Use !help for IRC-commands
00:28:49  <tussengas> useless comment imo :p
00:29:04  <KenjiE20|LT> unless your a new fish
00:29:11  <tussengas> @topic get 1
00:29:11  <Webster> tussengas: Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD
00:29:18  <XeryusTC> @topic get -3
00:29:18  <Webster> XeryusTC: Screenshots:
00:29:21  <XeryusTC> >:)
00:29:31  <tussengas> if you are a new fish, you don't know the commands?
00:29:33  <KenjiE20|LT> ^ important one :)
00:29:42  <KenjiE20|LT> well presumably yes
00:29:44  <XeryusTC> !fish
00:29:44  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Why dont you go outside, play hide and fish something yourself for a day!
00:29:47  <tussengas> link fails kenji...
00:29:48  <KenjiE20|LT> since you'd be new and all
00:29:54  <XeryusTC> !fish
00:29:54  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Why dont you go outside, play hide and fish something yourself for a day!
00:29:55  <XeryusTC> !fish
00:29:55  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Why dont you go outside, play hide and fish something yourself for a day!
00:29:56  <XeryusTC> !fish
00:29:56  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Why dont you go outside, play hide and fish something yourself for a day!
00:29:58  <XeryusTC> bah
00:30:14  * tussengas slaps XeryusTC around a bit with a large trout
00:30:15  <KenjiE20|LT> what link?
00:30:23  <tussengas> @topic get -3
00:30:23  <Webster> tussengas: Screenshots:
00:30:26  <tussengas> that one
00:30:33  <KenjiE20|LT> works here
00:30:46  <tussengas> or is it supposed to go to the upload page?
00:30:53  <KenjiE20|LT> that's the point
00:31:11  <KenjiE20|LT> it's so you don't fill the wiki hard drive with unrelted drivel
00:31:12  <tussengas> ah, thought i could see sshots there :p
00:31:25  <KenjiE20|LT> unrelated*
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00:34:11  <XeryusTC> time to go to bed
00:34:18  <XeryusTC> i have to get up at 9 o'clock tomorrow morning :P
00:34:20  <KenjiE20|LT> ahh, I missed last weeks 'Rivers'
00:34:32  <KenjiE20|LT> oh well, 2 eps to watch now
00:34:40  <KenjiE20|LT> and there's a Top Gear repeat available too
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00:40:20  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> kenjie where do thesave games come from?
00:41:19  <KenjiE20|LT> a person :)
00:42:49  <neuroticus> yeh
00:43:00  <neuroticus> dont worry, lol
00:43:59  <neuroticus> i dont understand the game start, you get a save game from a person (who?) and then you either A. start with lots of money or B. "moneymaker" where you setup a coal transport to make money
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01:31:38  <Zantor> anyone around?
01:31:51  <Zantor> .help
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04:02:26  <Webster> <@planetm4ker> seriously, do you follow the discussion or just add random comments?
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04:03:28  <PeterT> !password
04:03:28  <PublicServer> PeterT: grated
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06:54:46  <LordAzamath> !password
06:54:46  <PublicServer> LordAzamath: ailing
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07:42:58  <PublicServer> <SmatZ> wow, 4 towns :)
07:43:19  <PublicServer> <SmatZ> Ulaanbaatar :-D Isn't that the capital of Mongolia?
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07:44:36  <SmatZ> ah, those town names are set manually :)
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08:54:11  <Webster> Latest update from monitor: [unreachable] - <>
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09:42:55  <insulfrog> !password
09:42:55  <PublicServer> insulfrog: neighs
09:43:38  <insulfrog> !password
09:43:38  <PublicServer> insulfrog: neighs
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09:49:24  <TQL> !password
09:49:24  <PublicServer> TQL: neighs
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10:04:57  <dihedral> hello
10:05:00  <dihedral> how is this world?
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10:05:57  <muszek> hi
10:06:00  <muszek> !password
10:06:00  <PublicServer> muszek: pealed
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10:10:21  <Nickman87> !password
10:10:21  <PublicServer> Nickman87: deacon
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10:15:25  <Nickman87> morning
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10:17:15  <muszek> bye
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11:30:14  <tussengas> !password
11:30:14  <PublicServer> tussengas: recite
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12:45:47  <insulfrog> !playercount
12:45:47  <PublicServer> insulfrog: Number of players: 0
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13:00:21  <Seppel> !download win32
13:00:21  <PublicServer> Seppel:
13:04:47  <Seppel> !pw
13:04:51  <Seppel> !password
13:04:51  <PublicServer> Seppel: tarred
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13:23:12  <ODM> ey guys
13:23:46  <tussengas> !password
13:23:46  <PublicServer> tussengas: grazed
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13:24:26  <PublicServer> <tussengas> nothing changed :(
13:24:47  <KenjiE20> good
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13:24:57  <tussengas> i ment, no new votes :p
13:25:07  <KenjiE20> then say that :)
13:25:07  <tussengas> was intrested if something changed in that
13:25:18  <tussengas> well... nothing includes the voting :P
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13:25:48  <Webster> Latest update from monitor: [OK] - <>
13:25:54  <Nickman87> !players
13:25:54  <KenjiE20> that's really bugging me now
13:25:55  <PublicServer> Nickman87: There are currently no clients connected to the server
13:26:02  <Nickman87> !password
13:26:02  <PublicServer> Nickman87: grazed
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13:28:16  <Barbaar> !password
13:28:16  <PublicServer> Barbaar: grazed
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13:29:12  <Ammler> HeyaBeya
13:32:53  <Nickman87> hi Ammler ;)
13:33:02  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> hello
13:33:12  <PublicServer> <Nickman> hi
13:36:50  <Ammler> sali Nickman87 :-)
13:37:07  <Nickman87> :)
13:37:21  <PublicServer> <Nickman> somebody voted for my plan :|
13:37:24  <PublicServer> <Nickman> 3 people already
13:38:04  <^Spike^> !ip
13:38:04  <PublicServer> ^Spike^:
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13:40:20  <Ammler> Nickman87: already something coded for openttd?
13:41:08  <Ammler> oh, sali Thraxian|Work
13:41:36  <Thraxian|Work> ?
13:41:57  <Nickman87> what should I code Ammler? The Fatmap? :D
13:42:08  <Ammler> e.g.
13:42:17  <Ammler> or do you like to update a small patch?
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13:42:36  <Nickman87> which patch? :)
13:42:39  <Ammler> sign filter would be cool to have it up2date
13:43:27  <Ammler> <-- one of those
13:44:55  <Nickman87> how do you want me to update them? Download the diff, apply, fix errror and make a new?
13:45:19  <Ammler> well, first step should be to check the according tt-forums thread
13:45:32  <Ammler> maybe there is a newer version
13:45:37  <Nickman87> I'll look at the sign filter ;)
13:45:42  <Ammler> cool :-)
13:46:12  <^Spike^> bleh.. fighting again with autottd.. :)
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13:51:29  <Nickman_87> hmmm, in the thread there is a version 22, but in the dev repository, there is no version, only match to revision number :)
13:51:33  <Nickman_87> the latsest version in the thread was backported to 0.7.0
13:51:45  <Nickman_87> should I start from there, or form the dev repository?
13:54:40  <Ammler> I would use the one from pm
13:57:44  <Nickman_87> and if I updated it, I give the file to you? :)
13:58:45  <Ammler> well, you could commit it there, I would add you as dev
13:59:20  <Nickman_87> :D
13:59:24  <Nickman_87> I'll take a look at it first ;)
13:59:33  <Ammler> hmm, maybe better :-P
13:59:51  <Ammler> I am quite sure, it isn't that easy.
13:59:51  <Nickman_87> can I use simple svn?
14:00:07  * ^Spike^ doesn't understand much of the java project on dev :)
14:00:07  <Ammler> oh, indeed, it is svn
14:00:27  <Ammler> ^Spike^: ask
14:00:41  <^Spike^> could be an idea :)
14:01:00  <^Spike^> first need to fix too much on my computer...
14:01:10  <^Spike^> missing software and guess also other stuff since autottd refuses to work :)
14:01:11  <Nickman_87> checking out :)
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14:04:05  <Nickman_87> you setting modes yourself? :)
14:09:24  <Mark> 'lo
14:11:26  <Chris_Booth> !password
14:11:26  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: morbid
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14:12:07  <insulfrog> !playercount
14:12:07  <PublicServer> insulfrog: Number of players: 2
14:12:47  <insulfrog> !password
14:12:47  <PublicServer> insulfrog: morbid
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14:13:36  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> hi Mark
14:13:52  <PublicServer> <Mark> hello
14:14:10  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> #lo
14:14:16  <PublicServer> <Mark> hmm
14:14:29  <PublicServer> <Mark> there is no mlev in this trainset
14:14:34  <PublicServer> <Mark> nickman may like to change that
14:15:17  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no meglev ever?
14:15:24  <PublicServer> <Mark> never ever
14:15:37  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> what about high speed erail?
14:15:38  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> thats because it is only the 1960's game time, maglev comes into play around 2020+
14:15:53  <PublicServer> <Mark> not with this trainset
14:15:58  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> ah
14:16:06  <Mark> [16:14] <+PublicServer> <Mark> there is no mlev in this trainset
14:16:22  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> nut it has original engines loaded aswell
14:16:29  <^Spike^> !password
14:16:29  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: morbid
14:16:33  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and tto had maglev
14:16:34  <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah but we're not going to use those
14:16:36  <PublicServer> *** Player joined the game
14:16:49  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> why not?
14:17:08  <PublicServer> <Mark> because it should not be loaded in the first place
14:17:11  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> why are the loaded if we can use them?
14:19:34  <Thraxian|Work> ^Spike^: if you are in the game as "player", then please use the "name <newname>" console command to give yourself a different name :)
14:19:46  <^Spike^> ah sorry
14:19:47  <^Spike^> :)
14:19:49  <^Spike^> reinstall crap :)
14:19:52  <Thraxian|Work> no worries....
14:19:53  <PublicServer> *** Player has changed his/her name to Spike
14:20:01  <Thraxian|Work> I do it all the time
14:20:18  <^Spike^> guess it's more the problem i reinstalled all etc
14:20:25  <^Spike^> and forgot where i left my other openttd
14:20:38  <Thraxian|Work> I left mine in my other pants - did you check yours?
14:20:42  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> its more the problem you didnt chdck your name befor connecting
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14:21:53  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i cant believe 2 people have voted for my plan
14:22:00  <PublicServer> <Mark> me neither
14:22:01  <^Spike^> then don't?
14:22:05  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i might just ban it coz i hate it that much
14:23:20  <^Spike^> !password
14:23:21  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: malign
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14:24:18  <Thraxian|Work> what are you going to ban?  your own plan?
14:24:24  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yeah
14:25:04  <Ammler> he? you don't like your own plan?
14:25:13  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and combusters stupid clock
14:25:32  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i did until i had to remove things
14:25:45  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> like the factory and oil ref
14:25:53  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> so now i looks stupid
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14:26:08  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and will have a nasty BBH 01
14:28:11  <highpinger> !password
14:28:11  <PublicServer> highpinger: malign
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14:28:29  <Mark> try reading the scenario before making a plan next time
14:28:39  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i will
14:28:45  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> can
14:29:03  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> dont we need goods to make towns grow in the desert?
14:29:10  <Mark> indeed we dont
14:29:16  <Mark> click a town and read what it says
14:29:22  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> just food and water
14:29:28  <Mark> exactly :)
14:29:32  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> it should be forbidden to vote for other plan, if you made one.
14:29:49  <PublicServer> <Mark> why?
14:29:52  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> why?
14:29:54  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> that is so strange
14:30:03  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> you make a plan but don't like it yourself?
14:30:04  <PublicServer> <Mark> it is strange yes
14:30:07  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but what if your like me and hate your plan?
14:30:21  <PublicServer> <Mark> then you shouldnt make a plan
14:30:46  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> blah
14:30:57  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> I'm not making a plan this time, I did that last game :p
14:30:58  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> the only serious plan here might be kenjis and LAs
14:31:17  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> all  others voted for the other plans, so not worth to check those
14:31:25  <PublicServer> <Mark> heh
14:33:17  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> no trainset?
14:33:36  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> oh default set
14:33:40  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yeah us train set
14:33:56  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> there are 2 loaded
14:34:02  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> 3
14:34:05  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> I have a Hornby model train set in my room, will that do :p
14:34:12  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> TFR aswell
14:34:15  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> tropic has trains too
14:34:16  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> didnt see that
14:34:25  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> tropic, default and us
14:34:35  <PublicServer> <Mark> :D
14:34:44  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> who made this map?
14:34:52  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> combuster, afaik
14:34:55  <PublicServer> <Mark> yes
14:35:10  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> what a rubish choice of sets
14:35:16  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> just pick 1 and stick to it
14:35:17  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> :-)
14:35:30  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> well, that is what you coulde define in your plan.
14:35:39  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i have
14:35:44  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> use the fastest loco
14:35:52  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> i.e. combuster banned chaos
14:35:58  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> and default set
14:36:11  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> oh no, that was mark :-)
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14:36:17  <PublicServer> <Mark> yes
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14:36:27  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> why you banning trains
14:36:35  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i want default trains
14:36:36  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> so default set is banned in general?
14:36:41  <PublicServer> <Mark> yes
14:36:43  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> as they are fast
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14:36:48  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> why did you load it then?
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14:36:58  <PublicServer> <Mark> it obviously wasnt intented to have them
14:37:12  <PublicServer> <Mark> not sure if both TRS and USS were though
14:37:36  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> then you should remove it from  the save, wouldn't need such rules
14:37:53  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> or ask combuster
14:37:58  <PublicServer> <Mark> i have no idea how i would remove the default set
14:38:04  <PublicServer> <Kenji> it breaks
14:38:14  <PublicServer> <Kenji> remember I did the same thing Mark
14:38:21  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> remove newgrf "original engines?"
14:38:26  <PublicServer> <Kenji> we had to fuxx about with resetengines
14:38:42  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> reset engines is obsolete
14:38:45  <PublicServer> <Kenji> that save still dies if you change sets now
14:39:04  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> that command will be runned automatically if you push apply in ghe newgrf gui
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14:39:32  <PublicServer> <Mark> off to shower
14:39:33  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ammler you meen run
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14:39:45  <PublicServer> <Mark> of course he does
14:39:49  <PublicServer> <Mark> ...
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14:40:01  <Ammler> Chris_Booth: that too
14:40:06  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> lol
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14:41:29  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> insulfrog please dont idle on the company
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14:48:45  <Ammler> is it nowadays possible to see from which grf a engine is?
14:50:28  <Chris_Booth> i dont think so
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14:51:47  <Webster> <@planetm4ker> seriously, do you follow the discussion or just add random comments?
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14:53:13  <Chris_Booth> are you asking me?
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15:02:55  <Ammler> mäh ttdpatch doesn't work anymore
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15:04:22  <Webster> <@planetm4ker> seriously, do you follow the discussion or just add random comments?
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15:04:28  <PeterT> !password
15:04:28  <PublicServer> PeterT: crotch
15:04:37  <PeterT> lol @ the password
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15:05:00  <insulfrog> lol
15:05:31  <PublicServer> <Peter> yeah! go combuster!
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16:11:52  <Skasi> !password
16:11:52  <PublicServer> Skasi: termly
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16:42:26  <Thraxian|Work> wb CB
16:45:15  <Xaroth> C_B_
16:45:52  <Thraxian|Work> yeah, my mistake :)
16:46:07  <KenjiE20> both of them are /away anyway
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16:46:39  <Thraxian|Work> I don't even know how to tell....
16:47:02  <KenjiE20> /whois
16:47:10  <KenjiE20> some clients also mark the nick
16:47:52  <Thraxian|Work> I really should learn more about IRC's not as popular here in the states as it is elsewhere
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16:49:37  <neuroticus> !password
16:49:37  <PublicServer> neuroticus: bobcat
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16:50:36  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> hey all @IRC
16:50:40  * KenjiE20 wonders what the relative usage per head of IRC would be per country
16:50:56  <Thraxian|Work> hey Neuroticus
16:52:19  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> voted (had a good look last night :))
16:52:31  <Thraxian|Work> this map is pretty cool - I hope we get to play it before all the industries close :)
16:52:37  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> yeh same lol
16:52:45  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> when will the voting end?
16:52:50  <Thraxian|Work> I don't like the cargo limits in Combuster's plan, though :(
16:53:13  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> why so
16:53:21  <Xaroth> Thraxian|Work: it's quite popular in the states
16:53:30  <Xaroth> but IRC in general is more for the oldskool people
16:53:37  <Xaroth> nowadays most people hang out on msn or skype
16:53:41  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> indeed
16:53:44  <Thraxian|Work> Neuroticus: I'm more of the "connect-it-all" mentality :)
16:54:05  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> most people on IRC have a good computer/technical relation eg gaming, programming etc
16:54:11  <Thraxian|Work> Xaroth: perhaps - I'm in my 30s, and still enjoy MUDding, but never really got latched on IRC, and don't know anybody who is
16:54:19  <Xaroth> heh
16:54:26  <Thraxian|Work> and I work in programming too :)
16:54:34  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> and me
16:54:43  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> and used to be a bit of a gamer
16:54:51  <Xaroth> I game and program
16:55:00  <Xaroth> i'm ... on 4 networks, one of which is my own server at home
16:55:00  <Thraxian|Work> define:game
16:55:01  <KenjiE20> mudddddddddding
16:55:05  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> used to have 2 channels: #myclanschannel + #php (on quakenet)
16:55:10  <Xaroth> used to be at 6 networks
16:55:24  * KenjiE20 has 7 nets and about 20 channels
16:55:25  <Thraxian|Work> this is the only IRC I really use...most other communities use forums + voicechat
16:55:35  <Thraxian|Work> er..most of the other communities I'm in, that is
16:55:42  * Xaroth is on ventrilo almost 24/7
16:55:48  <Xaroth> (and skype)
16:56:14  <Thraxian|Work> I use Vent for my GW clan, but still have TS for this group (if it's even used)
16:56:35  <Thraxian|Work> unfortunately, neither is available when Thraxian is Thraxian|Work
16:56:42  <Xaroth> heh
16:56:49  <Xaroth> I use TS for EVE from time to time
16:56:56  <KenjiE20> EVE \o/
16:56:59  <Xaroth> yep
16:57:02  <KenjiE20> not eve voice?
16:57:02  <Thraxian|Work> I think the boss would frown if I had my headset on and was talking to myself all day :)
16:57:14  <Xaroth> KenjiE20: depends on situation
16:57:19  <KenjiE20> fair enough
16:57:39  <Thraxian|Work> I used to use TS for BF2, but my system can't run it very well
16:58:01  <Thraxian|Work> looking to upgrade the system soon, so might bring BF2 back, or maybe COD4
16:58:42  <neuroticus> when does the voting end?
16:58:45  <neuroticus> and BF2 what a game
16:58:49  <KenjiE20> @quickstart
16:58:50  <neuroticus> might have to reinstall
16:58:54  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki -
16:59:19  <Thraxian|Work> I was never very good at it - things run slow here (both PC and network) so my shots miss 99% of the time
16:59:26  <Thraxian|Work> but I'm a decent medic/engineer
16:59:35  * KenjiE20 loves medic
16:59:51  <KenjiE20> but I've been playing assault lately, trying to up a badge
17:00:06  <KenjiE20>
17:00:07  <Webster> Title: KenjiE20 Gunnery Sergeant Stats, (at
17:00:17  <Thraxian|Work> got up to Staff Sergeant, need 46 points for Gunnery
17:00:40  <KenjiE20> my pings too high to play consistently
17:00:54  <KenjiE20> I have to find the good and lenient servers
17:01:09  <neuroticus> I see
17:01:10  <KenjiE20> the ones that don't go "OMGWTFBBQ!!! 100+ ping"
17:01:56  <KenjiE20> I still have no idea how I've managed NOT to get a purple heart yet
17:02:08  <Thraxian|Work> yeah, was trying to figure that one out too
17:02:19  <Thraxian|Work> my favorite games were the knives and paddles
17:02:24  <Thraxian|Work> but I hear those are kinda taboo now
17:02:25  <KenjiE20> chalk it up to luck I guess
17:02:28  <neuroticus> the old 4:20 kd ratio or something?
17:02:35  <KenjiE20> 1:4 yea
17:02:46  <neuroticus> 1:4 but require 20 deaths or something :p
17:03:09  <KenjiE20> that's the one
17:03:39  <neuroticus> dont think i have it
17:03:40  <KenjiE20> I think I either play awful and died a ton, but get like 2 kills
17:03:41  <ODM> ohno BF2
17:03:48  <KenjiE20> or I play well and die <10
17:04:06  <Thraxian|Work> once I get my system upgrade, we should totally get #bf2coop happening :)
17:04:27  <Chris_Booth> bf2?
17:04:28  <KenjiE20> I might play some tonight after EVE
17:04:35  <Thraxian|Work> Battlefield 2
17:04:45  <Chris_Booth> sounds old
17:04:49  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> lol
17:04:52  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> not too old
17:04:55  <Thraxian|Work> it was huge before COD4 came out
17:04:58  <ODM> didnt bf2 die 2 years ago?
17:05:08  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> nah its still good
17:05:16  <KenjiE20> still more popular than 2142
17:05:20  <KenjiE20> afaict
17:05:20  <neuroticus> plent of people still play
17:05:28  <ODM> thats kinda because 2142 was made of poo
17:05:32  <neuroticus> bf2142? didnt really take off that well did it?
17:05:33  <KenjiE20> lol yes
17:05:47  <KenjiE20> ingame ads that stole cookies kinda killed it
17:05:55  <neuroticus> i didnt like it
17:06:01  <Thraxian|Work> I played on one server for a long time, but the pilots got too good, and would kill you before you took 3 steps outside of the base
17:06:10  <neuroticus> its like cs:s after playing cs1.6
17:06:21  <KenjiE20> hah, I hate that about bf
17:06:27  <KenjiE20> personalised airstikes...
17:06:30  <KenjiE20> strikes*
17:06:43  <neuroticus> baserape on boat!
17:06:50  <neuroticus> cruiser? i dunno what its called
17:06:57  <KenjiE20> carrier
17:07:04  <neuroticus> thats the one
17:07:04  <Chris_Booth> i am still a COD fan
17:07:14  <Chris_Booth> but i am sure i could give BF2 a go
17:07:19  <neuroticus> COD4 on xbox360, only one i can enjoy
17:07:32  <neuroticus> u would liuke BF2 im sure :)
17:07:34  <KenjiE20> never played cod4mp
17:07:48  <Chris_Booth> cod 5 MP rules
17:08:14  <Mark> nothing beats wolfenstein: et though
17:09:08  <KenjiE20> Sniper Elite mp is good fun at a LAN
17:09:19  <KenjiE20> where you can yell at each others jammy flukes
17:09:30  <Chris_Booth> age of empiers 3 is always good fun
17:09:45  <Mark> playingg hide and seek in wolfenstein
17:09:46  <Mark> awesome
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17:11:48  <hylje> worms armageddon
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17:11:51  <hylje> fuck your preferences
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17:12:05  <insulfrog> !password
17:12:05  <PublicServer> insulfrog: toffee
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17:13:00  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> yo insul
17:13:05  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> hi all
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17:15:30  <Mark> !password
17:15:30  <PublicServer> Mark: toffee
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17:18:01  <insulfrog> I wonder why 'Chaos/B2B' games are banned but yet according to the openttdcoop wiki, they are still viable gametypes, unless the openttdcoop wiki needs to be updated to reflect this decission to ban the 'Chaos and B2B' gametypes?
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17:18:44  <Thraxian|Work> pure chaos is not cooperative - so it's a viable gametype, just not within the scope of a cooperative community
17:18:55  <KenjiE20> or at least this server
17:19:10  <Chris_Booth> no
17:19:11  <Xaroth> B2B?
17:19:22  <Chris_Booth> what we called chaos on pro zone isnt chaos
17:19:23  <Thraxian|Work> limited chaos is possible - for instance, using a shared infrastructure, it is possible to have regions that are built in chaos-style, but they are separate from the rest of the network
17:19:31  <Chris_Booth> as we talk and plan
17:19:33  <Thraxian|Work> there was a ECS game a while back kinda like that
17:19:40  <Chris_Booth> PSG 135
17:19:44  <Chris_Booth> it got lost
17:19:53  <Mark> that was pure chaos
17:19:55  <Mark> and damn ugly
17:19:58  <insulfrog> B2B = Back to Basics Xaroth
17:20:01  <Chris_Booth> that only worked as it a small map
17:20:12  <Xaroth> define back to basics :P
17:20:29  <Chris_Booth> how you played when you first pick ttd up
17:20:35  <hylje> B2B = lol random
17:20:45  <Xaroth> hm
17:20:51  <Xaroth> too long ago
17:20:56  <insulfrog> ya know, your regular gameplay as you would play a single player game of OTTD
17:20:57  <^Spike^> the normal signals only game...
17:20:59  <Xaroth> but I think I interconnected stations in one HUGE line
17:21:09  <Xaroth> didn't work that well tho
17:21:26  <Xaroth> [+insulfrog]: ya know, your regular gameplay as you would play a single player game of OTTD << I use a LOT of the things I've seen/learned in ottdc in my singleplayer games.
17:21:38  <insulfrog> lol
17:22:02  <Xaroth> s'true
17:22:31  <Mark> the problem with chaos is new people dont know where to stop
17:22:33  <Mark> no offense
17:22:52  <Xaroth> none taken :P
17:22:59  <insulfrog> thats 'chaos for ya :p
17:23:13  <Xaroth> that won't work
17:23:30  <insulfrog> no foolin' :p
17:23:49  <Chris_Booth> not just that you never get nice hubs
17:24:00  <Chris_Booth> just massive messes with missing lines
17:24:04  <Chris_Booth> and jams everywhere
17:24:20  <hylje> chaos hubs are awesome
17:25:08  <Thraxian|Work> they're not just awe-SOME, they're awe-FULL
17:25:50  <Xaroth> they are also full of shit
17:25:58  <Xaroth> ... too often literally
17:26:02  <Chris_Booth> no need to swear
17:26:09  <Xaroth> I aint swearing
17:26:18  <Chris_Booth> [18:25]	<Xaroth>	they are also full of shit
17:26:25  <Xaroth> that aint swearing
17:26:26  <Chris_Booth> i think that is swearing now
17:26:44  <Chris_Booth> [18:25]	<Xaroth>	they are also full of shit <what is shit if it isnt swearing?
17:26:51  <Thraxian|Work> Xaroth: only when you have a brewery, food plant, or tinning factory in the middle
17:26:59  <Thraxian|Work> (they produce fertilizer!)
17:27:06  <Mark> Chris_Booth: digested food
17:27:22  <Xaroth> As a noun it refers to fecal matter (excrement) and as a verb it means to defecate or defecate in; in the plural ("the shits") it means diarrhea. Shite is also a common variant in parts of the British Isles.
17:27:25  <PublicServer> <Mark> let's build comebuster's
17:27:27  <Chris_Booth> no the excretion
17:27:44  <insulfrog> in back to basics and chaos games, at least you can try out certain hub designs to put onto the openttdcoop junctionary and the stationary, especially in one of the games, someone did a 5 way BBH
17:28:07  <Thraxian|Work> with Combuster's plan, can we ONLY connect 20 pumps+10 forests+10 farms per side?
17:28:13  <Mark> that's plenty
17:28:21  <Thraxian|Work> but it's not as much fun :(
17:28:39  <Mark> it's more than you'd think
17:28:51  <Mark> makes 160 raw industries in total
17:28:57  <Mark> thats more than your average game
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17:29:13  <Thraxian|Work> per side...only 80 industries
17:29:34  <PublicServer> <Mark> i thought he meant one side east of the plant, on side west
17:29:41  <PublicServer> <Mark> but even 80 is a lot
17:29:51  <Thraxian|Work> north of Ulaan is an "oasis" with 9 farms and 7-8 forests almost within walking distance
17:30:06  <Mark> it's not like we move all cargo from industries in the late game
17:30:09  <Mark> perhaps we can now
17:30:29  <Mark> i kinda like limiting it
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17:30:35  <Chris_Booth> mark it depends how long the game lasts
17:30:38  <Thraxian|Work> and southwest of Braunschweig is another with 12 farms and 10 forests
17:30:44  <Mark> prevents the game from failing the same way as the last one
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17:30:52  <Mark> or any other pax&cargo game for that matter
17:31:09  <Thraxian|Work> those two areas alone take care of all food production for the entire map?
17:31:22  <Mark> yes?
17:31:44  <Thraxian|Work> so this game will focus almost exclusively on 4 city sbahns
17:32:08  <Mark> the goal is "to grow towns"
17:32:09  <Chris_Booth> sbahs and boring and rubish
17:32:10  <Thraxian|Work> and with our community, people tend to want to run a city on their own
17:32:20  <Thraxian|Work> so we have 4 builders after the food and water supply lines are made
17:32:39  <Chris_Booth> and lost of repetative building
17:32:41  <hylje> time to reinvent sbahn
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17:34:15  <Chris_Booth> !password
17:34:15  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: snider
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17:44:24  <Webster> <@planetm4ker> seriously, do you follow the discussion or just add random comments?
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17:44:46  <PeterT> !password
17:44:47  <PublicServer> PeterT: homage
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17:45:02  <Thraxian|Work> why does Webster keep saying that?
17:45:22  <PeterT> because planetmaker set it so webster says that
17:45:54  <LordAzamath> yeh, blame planetmaker
17:46:08  <LordAzamath> holla btw
17:46:11  <PeterT> well, he set it didnt he?
17:46:22  <LordAzamath> set what
17:46:23  <LordAzamath> :D
17:46:31  <hylje> !password
17:46:31  <PublicServer> hylje: homage
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17:46:58  <Mark> blame KenjiE20 :P
17:47:00  <PublicServer> <hylje> SOOOO FLAT
17:47:09  <PublicServer> <Peter> SOOOO what
17:47:16  <PublicServer> <Peter> mark, ok
17:47:18  <PublicServer> <Peter> thanks kenji!
17:47:38  <PeterT> where are you from KenjiE20
17:49:05  <Chris_Booth> if you want to know where Kenji20 is from do a whis
17:49:10  <Chris_Booth> if you want to know where Kenji20 is from do a whois
17:49:43  <LordAzamath> if you want to know where planetbaker is from ask Chris_Booth :D
17:50:07  <Chris_Booth> i know of no planetbaker
17:50:20  <LordAzamath> planetbiker then
17:50:24  <LordAzamath> :D
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17:51:01  <Chris_Booth> still doesnt ring any bells
17:51:11  <LordAzamath> planetmaker ;)
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17:51:26  <Chris_Booth> i still dont know a planetmaker
17:51:30  <LordAzamath> without highlighting him hundred times a minute
17:51:30  <Chris_Booth> apart from god
17:51:48  <LordAzamath> dp a whois on god :D
17:51:48  <PeterT> use pm
17:51:50  <LordAzamath> do*
17:51:58  <PeterT> [God] End of WHOIS list.
17:52:15  <planetmaker> ...
17:52:25  <LordAzamath> !password
17:52:25  <PublicServer> LordAzamath: tidier
17:52:27  <Chris_Booth> evening PM
17:52:29  <LordAzamath> hai planetmaker
17:52:32  <planetmaker> salut all
17:52:32  <Chris_Booth> i was refering to you as god
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17:53:04  <planetmaker> saw that. I require, of course, sacrifice to put me in a good mood. A goat a month will do
17:53:27  <Chris_Booth> i dont have a goat
17:53:36  <Chris_Booth> how about a small fluffy dog?
17:53:57  * Thraxian|Work wonders what pm plans to do with that goat
17:54:12  <Mark> goats are pretty good for eating
17:54:14  * Thraxian|Work decides he'd rather not know....
17:54:16  <PublicServer> <LordAzamath> rape probably
17:54:24  <Chris_Booth> add it to his ever growing goat collection
17:55:10  <PublicServer> <hylje> plan added
17:55:11  <PublicServer> <LordAzamath> btw, when will the voting end?
17:55:14  <PublicServer> <LordAzamath> oh
17:55:15  <PublicServer> <LordAzamath> :D
17:55:44  <Chris_Booth> erm it kinda almost had
17:55:51  <Chris_Booth> as combuster seems to be the winner
17:56:10  <PublicServer> <LordAzamath> then there needs to be a WINNER sign :P
17:56:35  <Chris_Booth> well he may not be the winner
17:56:45  <Chris_Booth> now there is a new plan
17:56:51  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> hylje: P2P?
17:56:51  <Chris_Booth> people may chage there minds
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17:56:54  <PublicServer> <hylje> point to point
17:56:57  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> ah
17:57:02  <PublicServer> <LordAzamath> well thats why I asked when will the voting end
17:57:02  <planetmaker> tsk... goats are tasty.
17:57:05  <PublicServer> <WINNER> can I vote?
17:57:16  <planetmaker> and... "koscher". Too lazy to look up in a dictionary
17:57:18  <Chris_Booth> lol under my plan yes
17:57:25  <planetmaker> (if killed properly)
17:57:42  <Chris_Booth> tofu is kascher
17:57:45  <PublicServer> *** WINNER has changed his/her name to Thraxian|Work
17:57:55  <Thraxian|Work> anyone ever watch Foamy the Squirrel?
17:58:00  <Thraxian|Work> Kosher Crackers :)
17:59:26  <Barbaar> !password
17:59:26  <PublicServer> Barbaar: tidier
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18:13:47  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> Mark, when would you like voting to end?
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18:28:23  <Xaroth> FOAMY!
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18:37:28  <Ammler> LordAzamath: still no coding envirnonment?
18:38:16  <LordAzamath> umm
18:38:19  <LordAzamath> I have
18:38:22  <LordAzamath> :D
18:38:54  <LordAzamath> you want me to code the letters?
18:39:22  <LordAzamath> or why
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18:45:51  <raWt> :/
18:45:54  <raWt> unstable connection
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18:54:01  <Xaroth> KenjiE20
18:54:09  <Xaroth>
18:54:13  <Webster> Title: EVE Online | EVE Insider (at
18:55:40  <KenjiE20> I had heard about that, but jeez
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18:56:10  <Xaroth> same TornSoul I was on about the other day :P
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19:10:25  <Fuco> !dl win32
19:10:25  <PublicServer> Fuco:
19:10:27  <Chris_Booth> !password
19:10:27  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: toying
19:11:16  <Fuco> !password
19:11:16  <PublicServer> Fuco: toying
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19:15:32  <XeryusTC> !dl win64
19:15:32  <PublicServer> XeryusTC:
19:16:15  <XeryusTC> !password
19:16:15  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: toying
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19:16:28  <Ammler> XeryusTC: now decides which plan we build
19:16:36  <Ammler> then we can start :-)
19:16:38  <XeryusTC> i do?
19:16:52  <Ammler> well, you need to check the voting board :P
19:17:03  <XeryusTC> yes, that seems to have a clear winner
19:17:29  <Ammler> [20:39] <LordAzamath> you want me to code the letters? <-- would you?
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19:17:40  <Mark> combuster wins
19:17:42  <Mark> obviously
19:17:52  <Mark> we'll just have to wait :P
19:19:12  <Ammler> wait for?
19:19:21  <XeryusTC> someone starts building on it
19:19:35  <Ammler> but combuster voted for an other plan, didn't he?
19:19:42  <Ammler> so his plan is invalid
19:20:02  <XeryusTC> you can vote for someone elses plan
19:20:04  <XeryusTC> just not for your own
19:20:30  <Ammler> but then you say something like: I made a plan but don't like it, please don't use it.
19:20:52  <XeryusTC> so you want everyone to vote for their own plan?
19:20:55  <XeryusTC> like we had in the past
19:20:59  <Ammler> why do you take effort to plan something but then vote for something else?
19:21:05  <XeryusTC> and everyone just voted for his own plan so every plan got exactly 1 vote :P
19:21:09  <tussengas> because it is not about winning?
19:21:32  <Ammler> tussengas: but it is about seriousity
19:21:34  <Ammler> :-)
19:21:45  <tussengas> well... exactly
19:21:55  <XeryusTC> Ammler: well, i dont see the problem
19:22:00  <tussengas> he respects others and votes for the 2nd best plan
19:22:15  <KenjiE20> that effectively gives him two votes
19:22:20  <Mark> why would you do that
19:22:26  <Mark> just dont vote at all if you have a plan
19:22:48  <Ammler> hmm, no he votes for the best plan and makes his plan at least 2nd
19:22:49  <Mark> shows little confidence in your plan to vote for someone else
19:23:50  <tussengas> !password
19:23:50  <PublicServer> tussengas: bumped
19:23:56  <Ammler> but it is allowed to vote for the own plan?
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19:24:30  <Ammler> we had some time, there it wasn't
19:24:36  <LordAzamath> Ammler idk
19:24:45  <LordAzamath> I just wondered what you wanted to know that for :P
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19:24:54  <Ammler> idk?
19:24:57  <LordAzamath> i don't know
19:25:05  <Ammler> you don't know "what"?
19:25:14  <LordAzamath> [22:17]	<Ammler>	[20:39] <LordAzamath> you want me to code the letters? <-- would you?
19:25:24  <Ammler> how can you not know that?
19:25:29  <LordAzamath> well
19:25:32  <Ammler> :-D
19:25:41  <Thraxian|Work> I always assumed it was bad form to vote for your own plan, so I always voted for another's
19:25:46  <LordAzamath> if nobody else will do it in a certain period of time, I'll consider it ;)
19:26:11  <LordAzamath> Thraxian|Work but that doesn't stop you creating signs with other peoples names :D
19:26:25  <Ammler> nah
19:26:27  <Thraxian|Work> ok - I did that once, and they were ridiculous names so it was obvious
19:26:46  <LordAzamath> lol you actually have done it :D
19:27:07  <Thraxian|Work> yeah - I think I did it as a joke
19:27:25  <Ammler> Thraxian|Work and Thraxian|Home
19:27:31  <Thraxian|Work> somebody posted "Station by so-and-so", somebody else posted "Eyecandy by so-and-so-else"
19:27:45  <Ammler> and LittleThraxian
19:27:57  <Thraxian|Work> so I did some more...."terrain by...", "concept by...", and "everything else...Mastercard"
19:28:08  <Thraxian|Work> again - fairly obvious :)
19:28:15  <PublicServer> <Mark> we could make the mainlines and BBHs
19:28:18  <Thraxian|Work> but I don't recall ever screwing around with the voting board
19:28:25  <PublicServer> <Mark> not much we can screw up there
19:28:39  <Thraxian|Work> mainlines and BBHs for what plan?
19:28:43  <Thraxian|Work> combusters?
19:28:46  <Ammler> it [plan]buster that complicated?
19:28:47  <PublicServer> <Mark> combuster's of course
19:28:53  <Ammler> is*
19:31:35  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> for western, why not move it more west near the south
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19:32:03  <Ammler> mäh
19:32:06  <Ammler> no station gui
19:32:07  <PublicServer> <Mark> because im trying to follow the plan
19:32:22  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> does plan specifically put line a certain distance from edge?
19:32:39  <PublicServer> <Fucoo> yes
19:32:44  <PublicServer> <Fucoo> its on 3/16
19:32:46  <PublicServer> <Mark> dunno i just put it somewhere
19:32:53  <PublicServer> <Mark> feel free to move it
19:32:58  <PublicServer> <Mark> for whatever purpose
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19:33:47  <neuroticus> !password
19:33:47  <PublicServer> neuroticus: bumped
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19:34:54  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> combusters plan underway then?
19:35:37  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> heloo?
19:35:49  <PublicServer> <Mark> i thought that was retorical
19:36:00  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> stage: planning
19:36:07  <Mark> @stage Planning
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19:36:10  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> but i can see some tracks now :)
19:36:10  <PublicServer> <SmatZ> hello
19:36:17  <PublicServer> <Mark> hello
19:36:18  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> is the LED counter related to the plan?
19:36:25  <PublicServer> <Mark> no
19:36:36  <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :(
19:36:44  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> :-)
19:36:56  <PublicServer> <Mark> whats that block thing east of the ML?
19:37:08  <PublicServer> * SmatZ is trying to imagine chaos pax game with 4 towns :)
19:37:12  <Mark> @tunnels 12
19:37:12  <Webster> For trainlength 12: < 24 needs 2, 25 - 36 needs 3, 37 - 48 needs 4.
19:37:19  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> what block thing east of the ML?
19:37:25  <PublicServer> <Mark> three gueses?
19:37:32  <PublicServer> <Mark> west*
19:37:43  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> a much simpler ML
19:37:50  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> just a suggestion - remove it if you want
19:38:09  <Ammler> !gap 12 24
19:38:09  <PublicServer> Ammler: You need 3 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 12 and gap 24.
19:38:28  <Ammler> !gap 12 23
19:38:28  <PublicServer> Ammler: You need 3 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 12 and gap 23.
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19:38:44  <Ammler> !gap 12 22
19:38:44  <PublicServer> Ammler: You need 3 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 12 and gap 22.
19:39:21  <Mark> @tunnels is off
19:39:32  <Mark> uses the old formula
19:40:08  <Mark> !tunnels 12 20
19:40:08  <PublicServer> Mark: You need 3 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 12 and gap 20.
19:40:15  <Mark> !tunnels 12 18
19:40:15  <PublicServer> Mark: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 12 and gap 18.
19:40:34  <Fuco> stage is building already? or you are just trying some layouts?
19:40:49  <Thraxian|Work> @stage Building
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19:40:52  <PublicServer> <SmatZ> someone declared Combuster's plan winner
19:40:54  <PublicServer> <SmatZ> so...
19:41:00  <PublicServer> <SmatZ> I don't know who it was
19:41:05  <PublicServer> <Mark> me
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19:41:37  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> someone explain that LED counter? does it do anything?
19:41:53  <PublicServer> <Fucoo> look at the display ;p
19:41:55  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> >2.5 mil isn't possible, is it?
19:42:00  <PublicServer> <Fucoo> it counts from 1 to 8
19:42:03  <PublicServer> <Mark> sure it is
19:42:10  <PublicServer> <Mark> >5mil is also possible
19:42:11  <PublicServer> <Fucoo> or 9
19:42:15  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> well, theoretically, but which clients are able to?
19:42:25  <PublicServer> <Mark> i might be :P
19:43:01  <Mark> @cl
19:43:01  <Webster> Curve Length, mostly used to describe how big a curve must be to let pass trains with a certain TL at full speed.
19:43:05  <Mark> !cl
19:43:05  <Fuco> neuroticus: ive made a similar counter, with a bit cleaner design
19:43:06  <Webster> Title: YouTube - OpenTTD 7-segment LED counter (at
19:43:09  <Fuco> you can check it ouy
19:43:25  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> I added "only connected pax counts"
19:43:29  <KenjiE20> on his plan: * Combuster hopes pm drops in sometime, see if he gets a joke
19:44:39  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> that LED is actually insane!!!!
19:45:07  <Ammler> !setdef
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19:50:16  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> he the !reverse counter
19:50:29  <planetmaker> he... so I should go and see? :-)
19:50:35  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> that is mean
19:52:42  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> hub needed somewhere?
19:53:36  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> 4 lines looks like SML
19:54:49  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> don't you need goods for growing?
19:54:59  <PublicServer> <Fucoo> food and water
19:55:08  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> yes, that is required
19:55:19  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> but doesn't goods push it?
19:55:28  <PublicServer> <Fucoo> im not sure but i think not at all
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19:56:05  <Thraxian|Work>
19:56:16  <Thraxian|Work> "Any town where the centre square is in the desert requires food and water to grow. Non-desert towns require neither food nor water."
19:56:16  <Thraxian|Work> "Towns require passenger transportation to grow, although they grow slowly without any help. Goods and food can increase the rate of growth where accepted, and water is necessary for desert towns."
19:56:33  <Thraxian|Work> first quote from SubTropical, 2nd from Temperate
19:57:00  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> well, that means, goods is needed, right?
19:57:11  <Thraxian|Work> no.  it means goods can increase growth
19:57:26  <Thraxian|Work> but they are not required for growth
19:57:26  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> yes, that means in coop style, it is needed :P
19:57:39  <Thraxian|Work> not if it's not on the plan.
19:57:58  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> as I said multiple times, this plan is invalid :-P
19:58:07  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> :-D
19:58:25  <Thraxian|Work> invalid or not, it was chosen.  but don't worry - it will change.  they always change.
19:58:41  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> :-)
19:58:47  <Thraxian|Work> :-(
19:59:01  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> why sad?
19:59:26  <Thraxian|Work> I strongly dislike when a plan changes after being selected.
19:59:48  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> well, transform from invalid->valid isn't that bad, imo.
20:00:01  <Thraxian|Work> it's like a democracy where people vote on a new law, and once it passes, the government changes the law to mean something completely different, but since it's already passed, it needs no further approval
20:00:52  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> public players aren't aware of such details.
20:01:51  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> and you need to discuss such changes, you can't do it alone.
20:02:04  <Thraxian|Work> you're preaching to the choir, I'm afraid
20:03:13  <Ammler> well, I don't care, if you prefer to play it without goods, do it. It was just my 2cents
20:03:19  <KenjiE20> actually
20:03:31  <Thraxian|Work> I'm not certain that I will play this round
20:03:37  <KenjiE20> I can't find a line in town_cmd.cpp that increases town growth on goods
20:12:24  <PublicServer> <Fucoo> so, if we're sticking to the plan ;P im gonna build one station
20:12:30  <PublicServer> <Fucoo> the one after BBH 4 i think
20:13:48  <Ammler> "Excessive water supply does not increase the rate of growth, unlike food. " <-- how much is excessive?
20:14:49  <Thraxian|Work> more than 1 unit?
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20:15:00  <Thraxian|Work> "Any amount of water delivered to a town satisfies the need for water for that month."
20:15:13  <Thraxian|Work> so a truck that stops by once a month is sufficient :)
20:15:22  <Ammler> and food?
20:15:40  <Ammler> does it need more food for bigger towns?
20:15:50  <Seppel> !password
20:15:50  <PublicServer> Seppel: knifes
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20:16:18  <Thraxian|Work> looks to be the same
20:16:30  <Thraxian|Work> if (GetTropicZone(t->xy) == TROPICZONE_DESERT && (t->act_food == 0 || t->act_water == 0) && t->population > 60)
20:16:30  <Thraxian|Work>                return;
20:16:59  <Thraxian|Work> so if the population is over 60, and there is 0 food or water delivered, then growth is disabled that month?
20:17:31  <planetmaker> yes
20:17:59  <Thraxian|Work> hehe - so a single bread truck and a single water truck each month will support a city of any size - even a megalopolis
20:18:04  <planetmaker> it doesn't matter how much, but at least one / month and desert town.
20:18:10  <planetmaker> yup.
20:18:27  <Nebri> hey gang
20:18:32  <Thraxian|Work> Hey Nebri
20:18:36  <Nebri> oo building up are we?
20:18:38  <Nebri> !players
20:18:40  <PublicServer> Nebri: Client 170 (Orange) is AmmIer, in company 1 (Phillips & Co.)
20:18:40  <PublicServer> Nebri: Client 142 (Orange) is insulfrog, in company 1 (Phillips & Co.)
20:18:40  <PublicServer> Nebri: Client 116 is Thraxian|Work, a spectator
20:18:40  <PublicServer> Nebri: Client 177 (Orange) is Sepp, in company 1 (Phillips & Co.)
20:18:40  <PublicServer> Nebri: Client 164 (Orange) is Fucoo, in company 1 (Phillips & Co.)
20:18:41  <PublicServer> Nebri: Client 171 is Neuroticus, a spectator
20:18:44  <Thraxian|Work> indeed
20:18:52  <Thraxian|Work> just started, so plenty to do :)
20:18:59  <Nebri> !password
20:18:59  <PublicServer> Nebri: knifes
20:19:03  <Thraxian|Work> come on in - the water's fine ....although scarce, this is a desert after all
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20:19:33  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> question: is BBH01 to close to city?  will city grow that far?
20:19:46  <PublicServer> *** Sepp has left the game (leaving)
20:19:47  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> just curious, before it gets too far underway
20:19:58  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> might do
20:20:24  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> anyway, we may need the room for the pax station
20:20:44  <PublicServer> <Nebri> pretty sweet, glad to see I'm right on time :)
20:20:54  <PublicServer> <Fucoo> i think you should move that hub a bit further
20:20:59  <PublicServer> <Fucoo> from the town
20:21:32  <Thraxian|Work> personally, I think both hubs should be off of the flat area around the town - you can back a station further away without too much trouble.  A hub is a different story
20:21:52  <Thraxian|Work> but then, I thought the western ML was ugly, but I was wrong on that account
20:25:40  <PublicServer> <Nebri> I thought you guys started with crude money makers first :P
20:25:54  <PublicServer> <Nebri> not always true?
20:25:57  <Thraxian|Work> this time, we cheated a few million into the bank
20:26:18  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> tut tut tut, naughty :p
20:26:23  <Thraxian|Work> a pax MM would be impossible, since we only have small desert towns, and no coal in desert
20:27:00  <PublicServer> <Nebri> what about a water/oil MM?
20:27:14  <KenjiE20> that would skew the production
20:27:41  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> oil is normally good for MM in the desert theme but in this case, i think the moderators made an exception
20:28:05  <Thraxian|Work> good thing - no oil on this map either
20:28:17  <PublicServer> <Nebri> :D
20:29:56  <PublicServer> <Nebri> 12 TL!? really?
20:30:11  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> it is for pax if you look at the plan
20:30:19  <Skasi> I say USE A TL OF 20!
20:30:25  <Skasi> I wanna see something special..
20:30:40  <tussengas> tl 20...rofl :p
20:30:43  <PublicServer> <Nebri> ah yes I see :).
20:30:44  <Skasi> last time you didn't like my TL 1, 1.5, 2, so you gotta use a TL>20 this time!
20:31:07  <Thraxian|Work> I remember our TL64 MONSTER TRAIN we made a few games back
20:31:11  <Skasi> mixed TLs would be even better..
20:31:12  <Thraxian|Work> that thing made millions
20:31:29  <PublicServer> <Nebri> LOL
20:31:39  <PublicServer> <Nebri> is that in the archives somewhere?
20:31:45  <Thraxian|Work> yeah, looking it up now
20:32:04  <KenjiE20> 147?
20:32:09  <KenjiE20> or 148
20:32:11  <KenjiE20> iirc
20:32:19  <Thraxian|Work> I was thinking maybe 148
20:32:25  <Thraxian|Work> if it was that recent
20:32:34  <KenjiE20> @psgsave 148
20:32:34  <Webster> PSG 148 Archive entry;
20:32:37  <PublicServer> <Nebri> I would love to see a hub that could support a bunch of those 64 TL trains :P
20:32:47  <Thraxian|Work> nope 138
20:32:52  <Thraxian|Work> @psgsave 138
20:32:52  <Webster> PSG 138 Archive entry;
20:32:57  <KenjiE20> yea
20:33:00  <Thraxian|Work> "From north to south straight through everything is the TL64 Beast maglev, making an almost impossible 15 million a year."
20:33:06  <KenjiE20> one digit off
20:33:14  <KenjiE20> that was my map :)
20:33:17  <Thraxian|Work> I thought 148 was too recent
20:33:17  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> for a TL that big, you need a huge map and a huge curve lengh
20:33:38  <Thraxian|Work> hehe - look at 140.  the current PSG looks like a desert remix
20:33:50  <Thraxian|Work> "This game stated with 4 towns with 0 population. We had to generate city plans that included ICE lines and SBanh lines"
20:34:11  <Nebri> I gotta check that 64 TL
20:34:22  <Thraxian|Work> I remember it was 138 - my town (not city, but town) had the largest population
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20:34:58  <KenjiE20> that was our pet project one wasn't it
20:35:04  <Thraxian|Work> possibly...
20:35:24  <KenjiE20> sunken track and whatnot
20:35:27  <Thraxian|Work> it's the one where I first demo'd my inner-city bus service with one-way streets and queues
20:35:41  <Thraxian|Work> maybe I should do that on this map....
20:35:59  <Thraxian|Work> although, I've been experiementing with ways to make the town grow faster and further
20:36:19  <Thraxian|Work> most of it involves tunneling, since a tunnel only counts as 1 road square, which elongates the city center
20:36:52  <Thraxian|Work> but I haven't worked on that in a while, and I still haven't found the ideal layout to encourage massive downtown growth
20:37:29  <Thraxian|Work> I tink the Slindston screenshot was taken early.  I don't believe that I grew the largest city with only 7 bus stations.
20:38:34  <Nebri> !password
20:38:34  <PublicServer> Nebri: warren
20:38:40  <Thraxian|Work> hehe - if I did it in this game, I'd do it in Las Vegas.  and the first thing I'd do is build the Luxor.
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20:39:00  <Thraxian|Work> right in the middle of downtown...recreate the strip :)
20:39:03  <Nebri> yea the beast is awesome :D
20:39:49  <PublicServer> <Nebri> I don't think I'd want to be on a train with 15k passengers though :(
20:41:29  <Thraxian|Work>
20:41:30  <Webster> Title: YouTube - All Aboard the Fail Train (at
20:41:36  <Thraxian|Work> sorry about the long URL
20:41:48  <Thraxian|Work> shorter:
20:41:50  <Webster> Title: YouTube - All Aboard the Fail Train (at
20:42:02  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> this BBH is going to be HUGE
20:42:13  <PublicServer> <Nebri> yup
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20:42:48  <PublicServer> <Nebri> How in the hell are you keeping track of that insulfrog?
20:43:08  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> erm, I'm working on it as i go
20:43:33  <PublicServer> <Nebri> :D
20:43:37  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> all im doing is following the plan :D
20:43:58  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> how hard can this BBH be?
20:44:45  <Maza>
20:44:46  <Webster> Title: YouTube - Cessna Boogie 2009 - FlyBy (at
20:45:50  <Maza>
20:46:04  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> hmm, the plan didn't mention about how much terra you can do
20:46:07  <PublicServer> <Nebri> watching you make that hub is helping me out a lot so far :)
20:46:39  <PublicServer> <Nebri> especially now that I'm catching on to the way your building it
20:47:38  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> the trick is to build  'split before join' and you should be ok
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20:48:17  <PublicServer> <Nebri> I still don't understand why "split before you join" though :S
20:48:39  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> it prevents lockups thorughout your network
20:48:51  <Thraxian|Work> ever driven through construction?
20:48:59  <Thraxian|Work> same idea....
20:49:27  <PublicServer> <Nebri> ah okies :)
20:49:41  <Thraxian|Work> if you merge first, you have to wait for a gap to prevent ML slowdown.  if you split first, you create gaps that merging trains can immediately use.
20:49:47  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> a 4 level stack interchange is better than a cloverleaf, since the 'split before join' helps to prevent accidents
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20:50:39  <PublicServer> <Nebri> kk, its finally snapped into place into my mind now :)
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20:51:02  <Taborda> !players
20:51:03  <PublicServer> Taborda: Client 142 (Orange) is insulfrog, in company 1 (Phillips & Co.)
20:51:03  <PublicServer> Taborda: Client 116 is Thraxian|Work, a spectator
20:51:03  <PublicServer> Taborda: Client 181 (Orange) is Nebri, in company 1 (Phillips & Co.)
20:51:03  <PublicServer> Taborda: Client 164 (Orange) is Fucoo, in company 1 (Phillips & Co.)
20:51:03  <PublicServer> Taborda: Client 171 is Neuroticus, a spectator
20:51:05  <hylje> let's imagine the capacity of a single rail is `k`
20:51:17  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> (whew, thats a long diagonal)
20:51:34  <Taborda> !password
20:51:35  <PublicServer> Taborda: warren
20:51:39  <hylje> the "straight" track goes at capacity, half of it splits off in the junction
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20:51:58  <hylje> if the join is before the split, there is a part of the track which goes over its capacity
20:53:07  <Taborda> !version
20:53:07  <PublicServer> Taborda: Autopilot AP+ 3.0 Beta (r699M)
20:53:12  <Taborda> !revision
20:53:12  <PublicServer> Taborda: Game version is r17134
20:53:18  <hylje> in the coop reality mainline tracks that work at capacity happen often
20:53:21  <PublicServer> *** insulfrog has left the game (connection lost)
20:53:34  <hylje> so join before split is super bad
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20:54:47  <PublicServer> <Nebri> kk
20:54:55  <insulfrog_> !password
20:54:55  <PublicServer> insulfrog_: hasted
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20:55:45  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> brb
20:57:14  <PublicServer> <Nebri> when you create these splits, you make the track a lil longer right?
20:57:49  <Taborda> !revision
20:57:49  <PublicServer> Taborda: Game version is r17134
20:57:52  <Taborda> !password
20:57:52  <PublicServer> Taborda: hasted
20:58:03  <hylje> the split is not the problem
20:58:10  <hylje> the joins are what cause problems
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20:58:22  <hylje> fix the join, the split is so simple it can't go wrong
20:59:10  <Maza> I've messed up that split part a few times too, really
20:59:38  <PublicServer> <Nebri> yea waiting for a merge can be.. a while.. :P
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21:00:04  <PublicServer> <Nebri> it'll most likely make more sense when I see the traffic grow
21:00:45  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> back
21:01:03  <PublicServer> <Nebri> I"ve learned lots in the last couple days though.
21:01:24  <PublicServer> <Nebri> redoing my own games with your building guidelines has sent my network capacities through the roof :D
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21:05:43  <Ammler> tneo: worked?
21:05:53  <PublicServer> <tneo> yes thanks
21:06:11  <Ammler> well, I very much miss the station gui
21:06:13  <Xaroth> btw Nebri you got some spammers on yer site
21:06:22  <Xaroth> russian spammers to be exact
21:06:36  <PublicServer> <Nebri> yea I've noticed
21:07:13  <PublicServer> <Nebri> I'm quite new to running a website, started that more to help learn the trade then actual productivity
21:07:22  <PublicServer> <Nebri> I've been real lazy generating some new content for it
21:07:38  <PublicServer> *** tneo has left the game (leaving)
21:08:32  <PublicServer> <Nebri> sadly I have no idea how to stop them :(
21:08:50  <Xaroth> er
21:08:52  <Xaroth> CAPTCHA
21:09:01  <Ammler> Nebri: wordpress?
21:09:06  <PublicServer> <Nebri> drupal
21:09:16  <Ammler> oh, python :-)
21:09:17  <Xaroth> there's no visual confirmation on creating accounts
21:11:29  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> hmm, it looks like i'm building a good BBH here :)
21:11:30  <PublicServer> <Nebri> taking it offline for now
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21:13:57  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> there, now THATS what I call a HUB :p
21:14:33  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> CL12, right?
21:14:42  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> um, yeah
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21:17:36  <Thraxian|Work> !gap 12 19
21:17:37  <PublicServer> Thraxian|Work: You need 3 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 12 and gap 19.
21:17:40  <Chris_Booth> !password
21:17:40  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: cogent
21:17:41  <Thraxian|Work> !gap 12 18
21:17:41  <PublicServer> Thraxian|Work: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 12 and gap 18.
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21:18:53  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> isnt BBH 01 over kill were it inst merged?
21:18:58  <PublicServer> <Fucoo> station too spread out :(
21:19:03  <PublicServer> <Fucoo> can you increase it?
21:19:44  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> i sorta pre-optimised it for speed
21:19:59  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> its still a WIP though
21:22:42  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> now, for the station, which i think its going to be a nice challenge i think
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21:24:32  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> hmm...
21:24:47  <Barbaar> !password
21:24:47  <PublicServer> Barbaar: abacus
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21:30:46  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> I'm going to try and build a ro-ro at the NE town (Braunschweig) for the mainline services
21:31:07  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> (ro-ro stations are better than terminus)
21:31:10  <PublicServer> <Fucoo> stations should be terminus
21:31:11  <planetmaker> yeay!
21:31:26  <planetmaker> though the station should be in the South
21:31:33  <PublicServer> <Nebri> stepping out for a bit gang.
21:31:38  <planetmaker> of that town :-P
21:31:57  <PublicServer> <Nebri> I'll participate quite actively once your mainlines and bbhs are down though :)
21:31:58  <PublicServer> <Nebri> laters
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21:34:55  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> there, should be suffice to buld the load balancing for the station
21:35:39  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> although the lpan didn't specify whether the station should be ro-ro or terminus
21:35:45  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> *plan
21:35:47  <PublicServer> <Fucoo> it kinda does
21:35:54  <PublicServer> <Fucoo> imo
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21:36:35  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> they say ro-ro is the best type since the leaving trains don't mess with the entering trains
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21:47:28  <Sukasa> yeah
21:47:44  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> I'm trying to plan ahead
21:47:52  <Sukasa> always a good thing
21:48:03  <Sukasa> I should probably come on later today
21:48:22  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> so i made a mini-plan for the NE city
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21:52:49  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> brb, just getting a drink
21:54:15  <neuroticus> hey guys
21:54:21  <neuroticus> back, time for some building?
21:54:29  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> yo
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21:55:34  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> insulfrog
21:57:04  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> anyone on?
21:57:10  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> yep, me
21:57:15  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> me too
21:57:36  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> yoo, just wanted to ask why BBH01 is so massive and spread?
21:57:51  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> thats probably my fault :p
21:58:04  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> i like it :)
21:58:15  <PublicServer> <Fucoo> those curves looks kinda like a... funny
21:58:31  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> its just pre-optimised for speed, as no debut, we will be using very fast trains
21:58:43  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> lol overies!
21:58:46  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> i cant spell that
21:59:57  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> how is the BBH by ulaan going to work out?
22:00:10  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> BBH04
22:00:46  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> dunno, space is annoying there
22:00:49  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> indeed
22:01:15  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> why is space anoying, its all around us
22:01:31  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> too much water
22:01:36  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> around there]
22:02:31  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> i assume btw the only MLs up are the PAX?
22:02:46  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> yeah
22:03:08  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> and (sorry for so many questions) what is ICE
22:03:15  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> in car entertainment?
22:03:18  <PublicServer> <Fucoo> inter city
22:03:19  <PublicServer> <Fucoo> expres
22:03:25  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> frozen water
22:03:28  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> ahhhh ok makes sence ta :)
22:03:29  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> :p
22:03:32  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> :p
22:03:49  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> it is isn't it :p
22:03:54  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> no
22:04:34  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> the plans are right in the way :(
22:05:43  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> check !damn  so unlucky
22:05:57  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> 1 tile...
22:06:05  <PublicServer> <Fucoo> it will die
22:06:07  <PublicServer> <Fucoo> in time
22:06:20  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> guess i'll work around it for now
22:06:42  <PublicServer> <Fucoo> production is 32/m till we start it will die
22:08:04  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> o wait, think i made a silly error
22:08:46  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> right im going to start on the last ML for the PAX running east-west
22:09:13  <PublicServer> <Fucoo> when no TF specified i should probably go on low mode right
22:11:47  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> TF=?
22:11:52  <PublicServer> <Fucoo> teraform
22:12:11  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> yeh are we TFing much?
22:12:17  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> yeah, think low is standard
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22:14:55  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> there, that should be enough lines for the station i  think
22:15:14  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> what do you rekon?
22:15:22  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> (at NE)
22:15:41  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> probably :)
22:16:20  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> or do you think it should be bigger >:-D
22:16:27  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> CL for PAX?
22:16:55  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> 12, same as TL
22:17:03  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> i rekon
22:17:17  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> (more than likely anyway)
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22:21:40  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> at least its TL/CL 5 for the freight
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22:25:06  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> guys, see !check this ML and let me know if ok to lay tracks inside the box (width 15 as rest)
22:25:24  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> cant see a better way
22:25:50  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> fine with me, but i'm no expert in this :)
22:26:05  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> insul.fucoo?
22:26:29  <PublicServer> <Fucoo> doesn't matter for me
22:26:35  <PublicServer> <Fucoo> as long as it works
22:27:03  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> insul?
22:27:10  <PublicServer> <Fucoo> its good, it leaves plenty of space for those farms
22:27:13  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> yes
22:27:27  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> all good then :) ill start laying
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22:32:06  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> aew we using tunnels?
22:32:41  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> dunnom i just used bridges 'cos its easier and very little terra is used
22:34:00  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> not sure how big the 'city ring' ment to be but I just guessed :p
22:35:31  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> planning as i go so that when I come to continue with it tomorrow, I know what i need to do :)
22:36:25  <tussengas> !password
22:36:25  <PublicServer> tussengas: gadget
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22:37:28  <PublicServer> <tussengas> nice bridges :p
22:38:50  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> lol DIE
22:39:20  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> spliff is lit time to lay tracks :)
22:41:08  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> now I have an idea on what i need to do to Braunschweig
22:42:14  <PublicServer> <tussengas> there isn't much space there to expand the place
22:42:53  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> there isnt, but there isn't much i can do
22:43:21  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> unless i rebuild the entire network in that corner
22:43:41  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> including the BBH01, which  I want to avoid
22:43:59  <PublicServer> <tussengas> can understand that
22:44:21  <PublicServer> <tussengas> maybe you can make the local circle bigger?
22:44:33  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> its already huge
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22:46:00  <Nebri> grawr
22:46:17  <Nebri> !password
22:46:17  <PublicServer> Nebri: senate
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22:47:01  <PublicServer> <tussengas> do those bridges update when we get faster trains?
22:47:26  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> not automatically :(
22:47:27  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> nope, you will have to update the bridges yourselves
22:47:39  <PublicServer> <Nebri> arg :(
22:47:46  <PublicServer> <tussengas> hmm... i see like 200 bridges in bbh02 :p
22:47:57  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> same as bbh01 :p
22:48:06  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> indeed :p
22:48:12  <PublicServer> <tussengas> why no tunnels/
22:48:39  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> because they need terra to build
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22:48:52  <PublicServer> <tussengas> ah... 0 terra on this one?
22:49:07  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> not 0 terra, just low terra
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22:49:14  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> i think terra is ok for making tunnels
22:49:22  <PublicServer> <tussengas> would think so
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22:50:09  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> but feel free to make BBH03 or 4 with tunnels :)
22:50:21  <tussengas> :p
22:50:48  <tussengas> well, if you want i can replace the bridges with tunnels :p
22:51:10  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> will be a pain because of space issues i think
22:51:28  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> replacing bridges later will be faster i think
22:51:39  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> can be done quite fast with some hotkey spamming action
22:52:40  <PublicServer> <tussengas> hmm, i see the problem
22:52:56  <PublicServer> <tussengas> 1 tunnel is not the problem... the problem is the tunnel next to the tunnel
22:53:00  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> aye
22:53:48  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> well, i have to go. BBH02 should work, only signs missing
22:53:52  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> cya tomorrow
22:54:20  <PublicServer> <tussengas> cya
22:55:06  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> what's the TL for feeders?
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22:55:14  <PublicServer> <Fucoo> whatever you want
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22:55:47  <PublicServer> <tussengas> not mentioned in plan indeed
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23:00:49  <PublicServer> <tussengas> your freight out or freigth in has to move 1 tile to fit to L_L7R_R ;)
23:01:48  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> the lines atm are just placeholders
23:02:13  <PublicServer> <tussengas> sorry for 'messing' up then
23:02:22  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> no probs
23:02:40  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> its just so that i know where they're 'going'
23:02:49  <PublicServer> <Fucoo> just a side note, you know that towns need space
23:02:56  <PublicServer> <Fucoo> and that 700k town needs a lot of space
23:02:57  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> I know
23:03:09  <PublicServer> <Fucoo> well you killed like half the town with roro...
23:03:12  <PublicServer> <Fucoo> and tl12 stations
23:03:49  <PublicServer> <tussengas> tl 12  station isnt that strange with tl 12 ?
23:05:57  <PublicServer> <tussengas> "can't build railway track here... ...already built" :p
23:09:55  <PublicServer> <tussengas> maybe you can use smaller tl's for the localline
23:10:28  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> I  think the 'ring' local line is TL 12 and others are smaller
23:11:29  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> you will have to ask Combuster about that
23:11:59  <PublicServer> <tussengas> true..
23:12:11  <PublicServer> <tussengas> how many track for the W/F station did you have in mind?
23:12:45  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> dunno
23:12:48  <PublicServer> <tussengas> i would say we would need about 6-8
23:12:55  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> probably about 8
23:13:06  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> depends on traffic load
23:13:23  <PublicServer> <tussengas> we've to feed 700k people ;)
23:14:10  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> if freight rail traffic is going to be light, about 6 will do, if freight's going to be high, we need more than 8
23:14:57  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> the reason why the main pax station is so big because I don't know how many trains will use it
23:14:58  <PublicServer> <Fucoo> god damn it some bastard hacked our website
23:14:59  <PublicServer> <tussengas> btw... can't we straight the line at the !here sign? so we have a bit more space for the water/food supply line?
23:15:10  <PublicServer> <Fucoo> why now when im playing
23:15:13  <PublicServer> <Fucoo> GREAT!
23:15:39  <PublicServer> <tussengas>
23:15:52  <PublicServer> <Fucoo> MINE web
23:15:56  <PublicServer> <Fucoo> no ottd web :P
23:16:33  <tussengas> you said 'our' :p
23:16:39  <Fuco> well
23:16:51  <Fuco> i don't have much to do with ottd
23:17:09  <tussengas> i don't know that :p you're on this channel so i supposed ;)
23:18:10  <PublicServer> <tussengas> don't think 16 isnt to much if you have a supply of 4 from vegas and 4 from ulaan
23:19:30  <PublicServer> <tussengas> hmm, with a CL of 12... does an S-turn also count?
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23:20:42  <KenjiE20> @wiki max curve speed
23:20:46  <Webster> Max Curve Speed - #openttdcoop Wiki -
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23:20:51  <KenjiE20> ^ tuss
23:21:04  <tussengas> a yes or no would have been enough ;)
23:21:21  <KenjiE20> well now you have reference
23:22:38  <tussengas> 2x 45 degrees in the same direction within the TL counts
23:28:43  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> OH NOES
23:28:50  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> what?
23:29:08  <PublicServer> <tussengas> as far as i see he has 2 in and 3 out
23:29:13  <Ammler> 2 direction changes in train length counts
23:29:20  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> im getting there
23:30:28  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> thanks for numbering them up
23:30:30  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> :)
23:30:36  <PublicServer> <tussengas> i got confused ;)
23:30:39  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> heh
23:30:47  <PublicServer> <tussengas> btw, your 4 needs 2 bridges?
23:31:42  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> hmm, I contributed alot here :)
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23:31:47  <PublicServer> <SmatZ> evening
23:31:52  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> evening
23:32:30  <PublicServer> <insulfrog> right, I'm off to bed, night all :)
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23:32:35  <PublicServer> <tussengas> gn
23:32:35  <PublicServer> <SmatZ> nn
23:33:09  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> hows that
23:33:22  <PublicServer> <tussengas> hmm, we made bridges a bit high :p
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23:33:26  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> peeps mind taking a look at BBH03 to check?
23:33:30  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> yeh ill sort them :p
23:34:05  <PublicServer> <tussengas> the last one was fixed allready ;)
23:34:53  <PublicServer> <tussengas> you will need that bridge to end at +1
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23:35:06  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> the bridge for 3?
23:35:08  <PublicServer> <tussengas> y
23:35:12  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> trying
23:35:44  <PublicServer> <tussengas> hmm...
23:35:47  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> :p
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23:37:21  <PublicServer> <tussengas> that shouldnt be needed
23:37:33  <PublicServer> <tussengas> since you also made 8 bridges where you putted the numbers
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23:39:32  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> #therre?
23:39:49  <PublicServer> <tussengas> at least it works
23:40:02  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> and not HUGE :p
23:40:43  <PublicServer> <tussengas> i think we have to make the right-side connection near the fruitplant
23:41:44  <PublicServer> <tussengas> *wonders what plan you have :P
23:41:57  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> hehe
23:42:13  <PublicServer> <tussengas> why those squares?
23:42:24  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> planning
23:42:46  <PublicServer> <tussengas> don't get it  yet :p
23:43:37  <PublicServer> <tussengas> lotsa terra :p
23:43:47  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> accidental really
23:44:09  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> plus terra needed for the bbhs :(
23:44:48  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> ooh not ideal
23:44:57  <PublicServer> <tussengas> got to agree that you are the first who tries a bbh on the hill
23:45:09  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> lol
23:45:22  <PublicServer> <tussengas> why not connect the other part a bit more tothe otherside of the hill?
23:45:49  <PublicServer> <tussengas> so you can split up the 'B' side
23:46:03  <PublicServer> <tussengas> wich gives more space for bridges
23:47:20  <andy|p> !password
23:47:20  <PublicServer> andy|p: leaden
23:47:27  <PublicServer> <tussengas> i think i gonna give a shot @ BBH 04
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23:47:43  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> see now?
23:48:05  <PublicServer> <tussengas> hmm
23:48:46  <tussengas> !tunnel 10 12
23:48:47  <PublicServer> tussengas: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 10 and gap 12.
23:48:51  <tussengas> !tunnel 12 10
23:48:51  <PublicServer> tussengas: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 12 and gap 10.
23:49:05  <tussengas> hmm, a shorter tunnel wouldnt matter
23:50:35  <PublicServer> <tussengas> you made a bit to many tunnels?
23:50:42  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> why
23:50:58  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> 3/line
23:51:04  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> high traffic
23:51:07  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> i guess long trains
23:51:12  <PublicServer> <tussengas> well,
23:51:15  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> but hey :)
23:51:15  <tussengas> !tunnel 12 10
23:51:15  <PublicServer> tussengas: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 12 and gap 10.
23:51:19  <tussengas> :p
23:51:41  <PublicServer> <tussengas> but okey, i will connect them  3/line ;)
23:53:20  <PublicServer> <tussengas> crap...
23:53:28  <PublicServer> <tussengas> TL 12 :(
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23:54:25  <Webster> <@planetm4ker> seriously, do you follow the discussion or just add random comments?
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23:55:10  <PeterT> !help
23:55:10  <PublicServer> PeterT:
23:55:33  <PeterT> @logs
23:55:33  <Webster> WIP logs; now updating on the hour
23:57:08  <PublicServer> <tussengas> tl 12 and no terra would be impossible at that hill :p
23:57:14  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> indeed
23:57:42  <PublicServer> <tussengas> btw, why you splitted them into 2 ?
23:57:55  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> i havnt
23:58:02  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> i just joined 3 to 1 in 2 stages
23:58:21  <PublicServer> <tussengas> ahh, there is 1 :p
23:58:26  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> :)
23:58:33  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> hard bit now
23:58:42  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> sigh
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23:59:32  <PublicServer> <tussengas> hmm
23:59:45  <PublicServer> <tussengas> if you put the other lines 2/3 tiles further
23:59:51  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> yeh
23:59:57  <PublicServer> <Neuroticus> just measuring other side

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