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Log for #openttdcoop on 3rd October 2009:
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00:04:02  <PublicServer> <DCritic> hey what are we doing
00:08:31  <PublicServer> <Cameron> i dunno
00:13:44  <PublicServer> <DCritic> byer'\
00:13:47  <PublicServer> <Cameron> cya
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00:15:35  <HDIEagle> !players
00:15:36  <PublicServer> HDIEagle: There are currently no clients connected to the server
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00:47:11  <Peewee> Sup
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00:51:28  <Peewee> @quickstart
00:51:30  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Quickstart
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01:04:02  <Peewee> !download
01:04:02  <PublicServer> Peewee: !download autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x
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01:04:27  <Peewee> !download win32
01:04:27  <PublicServer> Peewee: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r17496/openttd-trunk-r17496-windows-win32.zip
01:04:45  <Peewee> sweet bots
01:07:17  <Peewee> !info
01:07:17  <PublicServer> Peewee: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'The Alpine Getaway, Inc.'  Year Founded: 1970  Money: 2520039187  Loan: 0  Value: 2522500267  (T:883, R:1, P:0, S:0) unprotected
01:07:50  <Peewee> !playercount
01:07:50  <PublicServer> Peewee: Number of players: 0
01:16:21  <Peewee> !password
01:16:21  <PublicServer> Peewee: usages
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01:18:34  <PublicServer> <Peewee> check?
01:18:39  <PublicServer> <Peewee> huh.
01:19:01  <Peewee> double check
01:19:08  <Peewee> hehe cool
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01:49:45  <Chris_Booth> !password
01:49:45  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: picket
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01:51:21  <Peewee> !password
01:51:21  <PublicServer> Peewee: picket
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01:51:41  <Peewee> hm password changed lol
01:51:51  <Peewee> I'm new btw.
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01:52:00  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hello pewee
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01:52:09  <PublicServer> <Peewee> How's it goin?
01:52:16  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> fine thanks
01:52:26  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> check @quick start
01:52:32  <Chris_Booth> @quickstart
01:52:35  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Quickstart
01:52:45  <PublicServer> <Peewee> I did :) Thanks for telling me though
01:52:49  <Chris_Booth> that will help you a bit
01:52:51  <Chris_Booth> NP
01:53:05  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> if you have any questions just ask
01:53:10  <PublicServer> <Peewee> Will do.
01:54:55  <PublicServer> <Peewee> heh, a 'greenpeace was here' sign
01:55:08  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> we get them alot
01:55:40  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> in coop we dont like massive terraforming
01:55:53  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> so if we find to much 'TF' we try and fix it
01:56:01  <PublicServer> <Peewee> Yeah, I was reading about that...
01:56:04  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> then place a nice green peace sign
01:56:13  <PublicServer> <Peewee> ah, ok
01:56:18  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> just to remind builder
01:56:55  <PublicServer> <Peewee> This gamemode must be... cargo, right?
01:57:10  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yeah
01:57:12  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> its cargo only
01:57:19  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no passengers or mail
01:58:20  <PublicServer> <Peewee> I don't suppose there's a way to search through the sign list? like ctrl+F style?
01:58:37  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> there is a nice sign filter patch
01:58:50  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but no sign filtering in trunk versions of openttd
01:58:58  <PublicServer> <Peewee> k
01:59:05  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but '!' signs mean problem
01:59:24  <PublicServer> <Peewee> Yeah I figured that out :D I was looking around the map on my own earlier
01:59:27  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> '/' sign have a name after them for builder
01:59:48  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> anything else is just filler signs or jokes
02:00:30  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> '  !! are signs only use for 3 things
02:00:34  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> boting board
02:00:37  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> +voting
02:00:41  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> network plans
02:00:44  <PublicServer> <Peewee> kk
02:00:45  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and welcome screen
02:01:20  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> some times train yards but they generaly get romeved by the end of the game
02:01:28  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> so we can build more trains
02:01:29  <PublicServer> <Peewee> I looked through some of the public server archives... 149? just woooow...
02:01:40  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> if you want a mega game
02:01:49  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> check out pro zone games
02:02:02  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> we have an 8000+ train game
02:02:07  <Peewee> HAHA oh wow.
02:03:00  <Chris_Booth> http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/ProZone:Archive_-_Games_1_-_10#gameid_5
02:03:09  <Chris_Booth> one of the best games ever played on coop
02:03:57  <Peewee> ? The description of that one says it only hit 2500+ trains
02:04:25  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> still a huge game
02:04:32  <PublicServer> <Peewee> yeah obviously XD
02:04:58  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> pro zone is an invite only part of our network
02:05:11  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> so if you are nice to people and a good build you will get invited
02:05:24  <PublicServer> <Peewee> hehe, ok.
02:07:09  <PublicServer> <Peewee> What's the opinion on funding new primary industries to improve output?
02:07:22  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> we sometimes prospect
02:07:35  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but mainly with the length of our game
02:07:42  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> we dont need to fund more
02:07:49  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> we get a few high outputs
02:08:42  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> any how i am sorry for the short stay but its 3am here so i am off to bed
02:08:47  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> night night mate
02:08:52  <PublicServer> <Peewee> Baw... gnight
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04:38:06  <Myster> hi
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05:50:40  <HDIEagle> hey hey
05:50:44  <HDIEagle> !players
05:50:45  <PublicServer> HDIEagle: There are currently no clients connected to the server
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06:54:22  <Myster> @quickstart
06:54:25  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Quickstart
07:00:19  <Myster> hi all, It's my first time trying the public server...
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07:08:32  <Myster> I tried the password mentioned in the quickstart page... but cannot connect (I have used OpenTTDAU to get latest stuff, and added the japanese station GRF that was not downloaded automatically)
07:11:08  <planetmaker> hi
07:11:15  <planetmaker> there's no password on that page
07:11:33  <planetmaker> ^^ Myster
07:25:32  <Myster> it says the password is "!password"
07:25:55  <Myster> how do ya get the password?
07:30:12  <planetmaker> it says you should type here !password in order to get the password ;-)
07:30:40  <planetmaker> Use
07:30:42  <planetmaker> !password
07:30:42  <PublicServer> planetmaker: flinch
07:30:44  <planetmaker> in IRC
07:31:06  <planetmaker> err... yeah. Should have been a quote.
07:36:15  <Myster> oh yea, i see, a bit confusing in the layout of the web page ;-)
07:36:22  <Myster> playing a game with my wife now... :-)
07:36:32  <Myster> I'll try it later
07:40:35  <planetmaker> no probs.
07:40:45  <planetmaker> Mind that the password changes every 5 minutes or so
07:40:59  <planetmaker> so you'll need to be here when you join ;-)
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08:17:11  <Myster> cool, thanks
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08:59:19  <Myster> !password
08:59:19  <PublicServer> Myster: clinch
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09:06:39  <planetmaker> !playercount
09:06:39  <PublicServer> planetmaker: Number of players: 1
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09:07:32  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> moin
09:07:33  <PublicServer> <Myster> hi, I'm a noob
09:07:41  <PublicServer> <Myster> lookin round
09:07:48  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> welcome to coop :-) first of all
09:07:50  <PublicServer> <Myster> short trains eh?
09:07:53  <PublicServer> <Myster> a
09:07:54  <PublicServer> <Myster> a
09:07:57  <PublicServer> <Myster> thanks
09:08:19  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> yeah. This train has obviously 3-tile-trains
09:08:46  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> look for !! NETWORK PLAN
09:08:56  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> to see a sketch of the general map layout
09:09:05  <PublicServer> <Myster> yea I noticed that
09:09:15  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> k :-)
09:09:22  <PublicServer> <Myster> and the trainyard
09:09:45  <PublicServer> <Myster> is short trains a  design decision or an artificial limitation?
09:10:09  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> it's decided by the person who made the plan
09:10:36  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> before we start to build on a new map, everyone can propose a plan
09:10:43  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> like what you see there at !!NETWORK PLAN
09:10:47  <PublicServer> <Myster> there doesn't seem much landscaping
09:10:51  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> plans are voted upon, most votes win
09:11:06  <PublicServer> <Myster> k I saw some votes somewhere :-)
09:11:11  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> :-)
09:11:33  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> plans usually include train length, number of tracks, maybe additional rules
09:11:39  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> terraforming maybe one of them
09:12:06  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> usually it's though more fun, to build without too much terraform
09:12:23  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> where's the challange to build on 100% level landscape?
09:12:32  <PublicServer> <Myster> yep
09:12:44  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> ah. this plan also says: TF=low
09:12:49  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> TF=terraform
09:13:04  <PublicServer> <Myster> k
09:13:37  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> low means by our standards: change only a hand full of tiles or so... well. You'll get a feeling for it
09:13:39  <PublicServer> <Myster> TL:3 .... ahh train length
09:13:46  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> there's somewhere also about it in our wiki.
09:14:02  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> but interpretation is always necessary :-) yeah, there's the TL, too
09:14:09  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> and the engine type
09:14:32  <PublicServer> <Myster> LL5RR ?
09:15:05  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> track layout: two tracks "left direction", 5 space, two tracks "right direction"
09:15:27  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> for the main line (ML) outside of junctions
09:17:11  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> actually very hard to see exactly followed in this plan as the tracks curve quite a bit.
09:17:21  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> and then better follow the terrain and the low terraform rules
09:17:31  <PublicServer> <Myster> heh yea
09:17:48  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> see !here
09:17:59  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> that's where there's sufficient free terrain to show what was meant
09:18:02  <PublicServer> <Myster> it seems like hter'e slots of main lines with LLL?RRR
09:18:48  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> yeah, the whole Western part. As outlined on the plan ;-)
09:18:52  <Mark> morning
09:18:59  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> moin Mark
09:19:24  <PublicServer> <Myster> why not make all sigs PF sigs?
09:19:30  <PublicServer> <Myster> hi mark
09:19:47  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> sigs?
09:19:53  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> PF?
09:19:59  <Mark> :)
09:20:03  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> PF = path finder ;-)
09:20:29  <Mark> !password
09:20:29  <PublicServer> Mark: loaned
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09:20:39  <PublicServer> <Myster> BBL... AFK
09:20:41  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> but you mean path signals. not path finder
09:21:09  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> answer is: they're slow, unnecessary and can cause trouble in some situations
09:21:19  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> result: use them where needed, but else use default
09:21:55  <PublicServer> <Mark> and they eat more CPU, and you have way less control over them..
09:22:12  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> yeah
09:22:37  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> this server urgently needs updating IMO
09:23:07  <PublicServer> <Mark> well, let's archive this game, update, and start a new one
09:23:10  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> are we not actually already in the finalizing stage, Mark?
09:23:13  <PublicServer> <Mark> psg161 is already waiting
09:23:19  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> ha :-)
09:23:23  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> ok
09:23:25  <Mark> @stage Finalizing
09:23:25  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #160 (r17496) | STAGE: Finalizing | www.openttdcoop.org | Use !help for IRC-commands | Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/ | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | IS2/FIRS game at #openttdcoop.dev | New players, use @quickstart | Xeryus disable awaynick"
09:23:33  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> you do the archiving. I the updating.
09:23:34  <PublicServer> <Mark> does it look done to you?
09:23:38  <PublicServer> <Mark> k
09:23:44  <Mark> !rcon save ps160
09:23:44  <PublicServer> Mark: you are not allowed to use !rcon
09:23:46  <Mark> @op
09:23:46  *** Webster sets mode: +o Mark
09:23:47  <Mark> !rcon save ps160
09:23:47  <PublicServer> Mark: Saving map...
09:23:48  <PublicServer> Mark: Map sucessfully saved to ps160.sav
09:24:48  <Mark> psg159 has no entry either
09:24:49  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> maybe: let's say I'll try. Not sure we should, if logging then would fail ;-)
09:24:54  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> :-(
09:25:04  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> slackers, those who played
09:25:12  <Mark> what was 159 like?
09:25:20  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> no idea
09:26:47  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> I did follow the games recently too little :-(
09:27:30  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> pulling 12 hour shifts the last weeks
09:27:36  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> at minimum
09:27:43  <PublicServer> <Mark> heh
09:28:02  <PublicServer> <Mark> 59 hours last week for me
09:28:13  <PublicServer> <Mark> including 6 this morning
09:28:21  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> he
09:29:09  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> yeah, this week already had like... 70 hours for me
09:29:29  <PublicServer> <Mark> nice :)
09:29:46  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> yeah. Especially as most things didn't work out :S
09:30:10  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> oh well. I don't complain :-)
09:30:49  <PublicServer> <Mark> off to shower
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09:31:42  <planetmaker> !rcon save psg160_final
09:31:42  <PublicServer> planetmaker: Saving map...
09:31:42  <PublicServer> planetmaker: Map sucessfully saved to psg160_final.sav
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09:45:13  <planetmaker> !rcon exit
09:45:17  <PublicServer> Server has exited
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09:47:12  <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)'
09:47:12  <PublicServer> @revision r17683
09:47:12  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #160 (r17683) | STAGE: Finalizing | www.openttdcoop.org | Use !help for IRC-commands | Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/ | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | IS2/FIRS game at #openttdcoop.dev | New players, use @quickstart | Xeryus disable awaynick"
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09:47:48  <PublicServer> @revision r17683
09:47:48  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #160 (r17683) | STAGE: Finalizing | www.openttdcoop.org | Use !help for IRC-commands | Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/ | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | IS2/FIRS game at #openttdcoop.dev | New players, use @quickstart | Xeryus disable awaynick"
09:56:09  <planetmaker> !password
09:57:14  <Mark> stubs added for both 159 and 160
09:57:26  <Mark> will provide screenies and users in a bit
09:59:14  <Myster> !password
10:00:26  <Myster> no password?
10:02:13  <planetmaker> there should be
10:02:21  <planetmaker> !exit
10:02:25  <planetmaker> !rcon exit
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10:03:03  <PublicServer> @revision r17683
10:03:03  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #160 (r17683) | STAGE: Finalizing | www.openttdcoop.org | Use !help for IRC-commands | Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/ | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | IS2/FIRS game at #openttdcoop.dev | New players, use @quickstart | Xeryus disable awaynick"
10:03:13  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players)
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10:03:18  <planetmaker> !password
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10:03:31  <planetmaker> hm...
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10:03:37  <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged
10:03:37  <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)'
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10:03:41  <planetmaker> that's bad. very bad
10:03:42  <PublicServer> @revision r17683
10:03:42  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #160 (r17683) | STAGE: Finalizing | www.openttdcoop.org | Use !help for IRC-commands | Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/ | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | IS2/FIRS game at #openttdcoop.dev | New players, use @quickstart | Xeryus disable awaynick"
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10:04:21  <Myster> what's bad? can't get password?
10:04:24  <Myster> :-)
10:04:35  <Myster> !password
10:04:41  <planetmaker> the spamming of "not enough players" the bot does
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10:04:52  <PublicServer> @revision r17683
10:04:52  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players)
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10:04:52  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #160 (r17683) | STAGE: Finalizing | www.openttdcoop.org | Use !help for IRC-commands | Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/ | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | IS2/FIRS game at #openttdcoop.dev | New players, use @quickstart | Xeryus disable awaynick"
10:04:53  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players)
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10:04:53  <planetmaker> hold on for a sec
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10:05:16  <PublicServer> @revision r17683
10:05:16  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #160 (r17683) | STAGE: Finalizing | www.openttdcoop.org | Use !help for IRC-commands | Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/ | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | IS2/FIRS game at #openttdcoop.dev | New players, use @quickstart | Xeryus disable awaynick"
10:05:38  <planetmaker> !password
10:06:00  <Myster> !password
10:06:38  <planetmaker> !ping
10:06:39  <planetmaker> !fish
10:06:47  <planetmaker> hm...
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10:07:18  <planetmaker> the bot hangs somehow...
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10:11:52  <PublicServer> @revision r17683
10:11:53  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #160 (r17683) | STAGE: Finalizing | www.openttdcoop.org | Use !help for IRC-commands | Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/ | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | IS2/FIRS game at #openttdcoop.dev | New players, use @quickstart | Xeryus disable awaynick"
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10:16:02  <Mark> !ping
10:16:04  <planetmaker> @stage fixing ap
10:16:04  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #160 (r17683) | STAGE: fixing ap | www.openttdcoop.org | Use !help for IRC-commands | Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/ | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | IS2/FIRS game at #openttdcoop.dev | New players, use @quickstart | Xeryus disable awaynick"
10:16:07  <Mark> :)
10:18:31  <Myster> just reading the wiki, there's a fair bit to get your head around ;-)
10:18:45  <Mark> yes there is
10:19:02  <Mark> @quickstart
10:19:05  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Quickstart
10:19:07  <Mark> did you read that?
10:19:10  <planetmaker> he knows it :-)
10:19:24  <planetmaker> and read it at least partly :-P
10:19:54  <Myster> yea, I'm reading the planning page now
10:19:59  <Myster> heh
10:20:12  <Myster> quickstart I can do... do it every other game I play ;-)
10:20:29  <planetmaker> @slowstart
10:20:29  <Webster> Read everything on the wiki, and I mean everything
10:20:33  <planetmaker> ^^ ;-)
10:20:47  <Myster> probably still on quickstart by the time I finish (and have won :-)
10:21:09  <Myster> on 'goal' servers
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10:21:26  <PublicServer> @revision r17683
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10:21:26  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #160 (r17683) | STAGE: fixing ap | www.openttdcoop.org | Use !help for IRC-commands | Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/ | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | IS2/FIRS game at #openttdcoop.dev | New players, use @quickstart | Xeryus disable awaynick"
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10:22:25  <PublicServer> @revision r17683
10:22:25  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #160 (r17683) | STAGE: fixing ap | www.openttdcoop.org | Use !help for IRC-commands | Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/ | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | IS2/FIRS game at #openttdcoop.dev | New players, use @quickstart | Xeryus disable awaynick"
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10:26:24  <Myster> haven't figure out what the 'space' number in LLL5RRR means
10:27:17  <Mark> space between the L and R part of the ML
10:27:18  <Myster> !password
10:27:21  <Mark> empty tiles
10:27:24  <Myster> ahh
10:27:25  <Myster> k
10:27:41  <Myster> makes programming look easy
10:28:16  <Myster> I take it the server is still playing silly buggers
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10:28:43  <PublicServer> @revision r17683
10:28:43  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #160 (r17683) | STAGE: fixing ap | www.openttdcoop.org | Use !help for IRC-commands | Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/ | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | IS2/FIRS game at #openttdcoop.dev | New players, use @quickstart | Xeryus disable awaynick"
10:28:54  <planetmaker> !ping
10:28:54  <PublicServer> planetmaker: pong
10:28:58  <planetmaker> !players
10:28:59  <PublicServer> planetmaker: There are currently no clients connected to the server
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10:29:45  <Myster> no maps I've seen specify minimum-tunnel-depth (which I think would be a cool requirement :-)
10:29:56  <Myster> I mean no 'plans' I've seen
10:30:05  <planetmaker> you can make a plan with that, if you like.
10:30:21  <planetmaker> though... it would just mean to build bridges instead
10:30:37  <Myster> yep
10:30:56  <Myster> spose
10:31:05  <planetmaker> and hubs need either bridges or tunnels. Why forbid tunnels then?
10:31:28  <Mark> forbidding tunnels sounds pretty random
10:31:34  <Myster> so nobody has forbidden both bridges and tunnels :-)
10:31:35  <planetmaker> it's not like there don't exist tunnels under the sea even. Like the Eurotunnel
10:31:36  <Mark> and annoying rather than fun
10:31:38  <Myster> path signals
10:32:25  <Myster> I did see 'no-tunnels' on one of the demo plans
10:32:31  <Myster> on the wiki
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10:33:07  <PublicServer> @revision r17683
10:33:07  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #160 (r17683) | STAGE: fixing ap | www.openttdcoop.org | Use !help for IRC-commands | Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/ | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | IS2/FIRS game at #openttdcoop.dev | New players, use @quickstart | Xeryus disable awaynick"
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10:33:11  <planetmaker> shit
10:33:31  <Mark> !download lin
10:33:37  <Mark> oh right..
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10:34:57  <PublicServer> @revision r17683
10:34:57  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #160 (r17683) | STAGE: fixing ap | www.openttdcoop.org | Use !help for IRC-commands | Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/ | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | IS2/FIRS game at #openttdcoop.dev | New players, use @quickstart | Xeryus disable awaynick"
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10:38:31  <PublicServer> @revision r17683
10:38:31  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #160 (r17683) | STAGE: fixing ap | www.openttdcoop.org | Use !help for IRC-commands | Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/ | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | IS2/FIRS game at #openttdcoop.dev | New players, use @quickstart | Xeryus disable awaynick"
10:44:05  <Myster> I'm going to bed, good luck with the server
10:44:08  <Myster> !password
10:44:08  <PublicServer> Myster: maples
10:44:49  <Myster> yay
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10:45:00  <Myster> boo
10:45:06  <Myster> :-)
10:45:08  <Myster> night
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10:46:40  <Mark> !download lin
10:46:41  <PublicServer> Mark: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r17683/openttd-trunk-r17683-linux-generic-i686.tar.bz2
10:47:34  <planetmaker> !password
10:47:34  <PublicServer> planetmaker: maples
10:47:44  <PublicServer> *** planetm4ker has left the game (kicked by server)
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10:47:59  <planetmaker> grrr!
10:48:50  <Mark> what be the problem?
10:49:11  <Mark> !password
10:49:11  <PublicServer> Mark: maples
10:49:16  <PublicServer> *** Mark has left the game (kicked by server)
10:49:17  <PublicServer> *** Mark joined the game
10:49:20  <planetmaker> you get kicked :-P
10:49:28  <Mark> i saw a warning :P
10:49:31  <planetmaker> or ap spams this channel.
10:49:38  <planetmaker> and gets kicked due to that...
10:49:41  <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (kicked by server)
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10:49:51  <^Spike^> it spams the game.. :)
10:50:06  <^Spike^> stuck in a loop somewhere i guess
10:50:27  <planetmaker> yeah. spams with about 10 ... 20 Hz
10:50:30  <PublicServer> *** Mark has left the game (connection lost)
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10:50:42  <PublicServer> *** Mark joined the game
10:50:51  <Mark> !unpause
10:50:51  <PublicServer> *** Mark has unpaused the server. (Use !auto to set it back.)
10:51:03  <PublicServer> *** Mark has left the game (kicked by server)
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10:51:10  <^Spike^> doesn't matter?
10:51:11  <Mark> it gives that grf warning
10:51:31  <PublicServer> *** Spike````` has left the game (kicked by server)
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10:51:40  <Mark> "unpausing openttd can cause problems, do not report subsequent crashes.."
10:51:49  <^Spike^> hmm...
10:52:03  <^Spike^> it shows a msg for eveyr packet you get when connecting it seems...
10:59:30  <planetmaker> Mark: where is that quote from?
10:59:52  <Mark> that's the warning it shows when i join the server
10:59:57  <Mark> for a split second
11:00:36  <planetmaker> aha... strange
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11:02:48  <^Spike^> downgrade? :)
11:04:17  <planetmaker> I guess
11:04:26  <planetmaker> the problem seems to be trunk, not ap.
11:04:35  <planetmaker> it spams the console even, if I start w/o ap
11:06:06  <^Spike^> with our patches?
11:07:07  <planetmaker> I guess
11:07:39  <planetmaker> actually... no
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11:23:19  <jonde> !password
11:23:54  <planetmaker> server offline :S
11:24:17  <KenjiE20> ^ another point against massvoice
11:24:23  <KenjiE20> Hard to find PS
11:24:24  <KenjiE20> :P
11:25:22  <Xaroth> another point at eyes :)
11:25:40  <Xaroth> most clients sort their nicklist on name
11:26:15  <KenjiE20> and most sort ops/hops/voice first
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11:35:51  <planetmaker> reverting to previous version meanwhile
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11:39:48  <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged
11:39:48  <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)'
11:39:48  <PublicServer> @revision r17683
11:39:48  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players)
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11:39:48  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #160 (r17683) | STAGE: fixing ap | www.openttdcoop.org | Use !help for IRC-commands | Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/ | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | IS2/FIRS game at #openttdcoop.dev | New players, use @quickstart | Xeryus disable awaynick"
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11:40:17  <PublicServer> @revision r17683
11:40:17  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #160 (r17683) | STAGE: fixing ap | www.openttdcoop.org | Use !help for IRC-commands | Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/ | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | IS2/FIRS game at #openttdcoop.dev | New players, use @quickstart | Xeryus disable awaynick"
11:48:07  <KenjiE20> pm; you might wanna shut the server down again, that log is going mad
11:48:16  <planetmaker> yes
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11:49:01  <KenjiE20> up to 8 megs already >_>
11:49:13  <planetmaker> :-O
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11:51:22  <PublicServer> @revision r17683
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11:51:44  <KenjiE20> urg
11:52:01  <planetmaker> it should have been the old version...
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11:57:49  <PublicServer> @revision r17683
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11:57:49  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #160 (r17683) | STAGE: fixing ap | www.openttdcoop.org | Use !help for IRC-commands | Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/ | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | IS2/FIRS game at #openttdcoop.dev | New players, use @quickstart | Xeryus disable awaynick"
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11:58:03  <KenjiE20> yes I had that ready
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11:58:51  <planetmaker> @revision r17496
11:58:51  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #160 (r17496) | STAGE: fixing ap | www.openttdcoop.org | Use !help for IRC-commands | Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/ | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | IS2/FIRS game at #openttdcoop.dev | New players, use @quickstart | Xeryus disable awaynick"
11:58:56  <KenjiE20> lol
12:01:56  <planetmaker> @revision r17469
12:01:56  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #160 (r17469) | STAGE: fixing ap | www.openttdcoop.org | Use !help for IRC-commands | Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/ | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | IS2/FIRS game at #openttdcoop.dev | New players, use @quickstart | Xeryus disable awaynick"
12:02:03  <planetmaker> err
12:02:06  <planetmaker> @undo
12:02:06  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #160 (r17496) | STAGE: fixing ap | www.openttdcoop.org | Use !help for IRC-commands | Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/ | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | IS2/FIRS game at #openttdcoop.dev | New players, use @quickstart | Xeryus disable awaynick"
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12:25:47  <KenjiE20> wow, the EVE tourney's moved up somewhat
12:26:28  <KenjiE20> they've got the players on stage at fanfest
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12:51:47  <nineeyes> !password
12:51:54  <nineeyes> oh.
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12:55:12  <planetmaker> currently debuging
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13:07:28  <jdread> hi
13:07:29  <jdread> !players
13:07:47  <jdread> !password
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13:09:41  <jdread> !password
13:10:55  <Chris_Booth> ooh ap is dead
13:12:13  <jdread> :(
13:12:49  <Chris_Booth> i am sure it will be fixed asap
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13:16:17  <planetmaker> Mark: got another / a better psg161 map?
13:16:24  <planetmaker> or anyone got one?
13:17:01  <planetmaker> it's neither ap nor openttd, it's the savegame :-P
13:17:44  <Chris_Booth> ooh
13:17:52  <Chris_Booth> what happened to 160?
13:18:25  <planetmaker> archived?
13:18:34  <planetmaker> declared done :-)
13:18:41  <Chris_Booth> realy when was this?
13:18:48  <Chris_Booth> @archive
13:18:48  <Webster> I think you meant '!archive' Chris_Booth but here: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/PublicServer:Archive | http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/MemberZone:Archive | http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/ProZone:Archive
13:18:51  <planetmaker> at about 10 am this morning ;-)
13:18:58  <planetmaker> it still needs a text and an image, though
13:19:26  <Chris_Booth> so does 159
13:20:06  <Chris_Booth> also 159 final save and 160 final save need to be moved to correct location
13:20:31  <planetmaker> yes
13:20:48  <Chris_Booth> i was going to finish archiving them
13:20:50  <Chris_Booth> but i cant
13:25:09  <planetmaker> Chris_Booth: psg160 transfered
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13:27:23  <planetmaker> and I hope the correct 159, too
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13:29:40  <Kolo> !dl win32
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13:39:41  <Chris_Booth> i have a map for you to put up if you wanty
13:44:03  <Chris_Booth> planetmaker: i have a map for you
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13:57:31  <PublicServer> @revision r17683
13:57:31  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #160 (r17683) | STAGE: fixing ap | www.openttdcoop.org | Use !help for IRC-commands | Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/ | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | IS2/FIRS game at #openttdcoop.dev | New players, use @quickstart | Xeryus disable awaynick"
13:57:41  <planetmaker> !bananas
13:57:55  <planetmaker> !content
13:57:57  <planetmaker> !contents
13:58:05  <PublicServer> *** planetmaker has updated content from BaNaNaS.
13:58:50  <planetmaker> !rcon load save/uploads/psg161_start.sav
13:58:51  <PublicServer> planetmaker: [2009-10-03 15:58:49] save/uploads/psg161_start.sav: No such file or directory.
13:58:51  <PublicServer> planetmaker: [2009-10-03 15:58:49] donecapture
13:59:01  <planetmaker> !rcon load uploads/psg161_start.sav
13:59:02  <PublicServer> planetmaker: [2009-10-03 15:59:00] uploads/psg161_start.sav: No such file or directory.
13:59:02  <PublicServer> planetmaker: [2009-10-03 15:59:00] donecapture
13:59:06  <planetmaker> !rcon pw
13:59:08  <PublicServer> planetmaker: [2009-10-03 15:59:05] ERROR: command or variable not found
13:59:08  <PublicServer> planetmaker: [2009-10-03 15:59:05] donecapture
13:59:09  <planetmaker> !rcon pwd
13:59:10  <PublicServer> planetmaker: [2009-10-03 15:59:08] /home/openttd/svn-public/autopilot/save/
13:59:10  <PublicServer> planetmaker: [2009-10-03 15:59:08] donecapture
13:59:18  <planetmaker> !rcon cd uploads
13:59:19  <PublicServer> planetmaker: [2009-10-03 15:59:17] donecapture
13:59:26  <planetmaker> !rcon ls psg161*
13:59:27  <PublicServer> planetmaker: [2009-10-03 15:59:25] 0) .. (Parent directory)
13:59:27  <PublicServer> planetmaker: [2009-10-03 15:59:25] 1) archive/ (Directory)
13:59:27  <PublicServer> planetmaker: [2009-10-03 15:59:25] 2) psg161_start.sav
13:59:27  <PublicServer> planetmaker: [2009-10-03 15:59:25] 3) psg161start.sav
13:59:27  <PublicServer> planetmaker: [2009-10-03 15:59:25] 4) psg160start.sav
13:59:29  <PublicServer> planetmaker: [2009-10-03 15:59:25] 5) psg159_start.sav
13:59:29  <PublicServer> planetmaker: [2009-10-03 15:59:25] 6) psgstart_gorge.sav
13:59:31  <PublicServer> planetmaker: [2009-10-03 15:59:25] 7) desertpax.sav
13:59:31  <PublicServer> planetmaker: [2009-10-03 15:59:25] 8) psg151.sav
13:59:33  <PublicServer> planetmaker: [2009-10-03 15:59:25] 9) dover_prep.sav
13:59:33  <PublicServer> planetmaker: you have 3 more messages
13:59:41  <planetmaker> !rcon load psg161_start
13:59:42  <PublicServer> planetmaker: [2009-10-03 15:59:40] psg161_start: No such file or directory.
13:59:42  <PublicServer> planetmaker: [2009-10-03 15:59:40] donecapture
13:59:52  <planetmaker> !rcon load psg161_start.sav
13:59:54  <PublicServer> planetmaker: [2009-10-03 15:59:51] donecapture
13:59:54  <PublicServer> planetmaker: [2009-10-03 15:59:51] dbg: [ai] Registering two AIs with the same name and version
13:59:54  <PublicServer> planetmaker: [2009-10-03 15:59:51] dbg: [ai]   1: content_download/ai/Rondje_om_de_kerk.290.tar/rondje_om_de_kerk.290/main.nut
13:59:54  <PublicServer> planetmaker: [2009-10-03 15:59:51] dbg: [ai]   2: content_download/ai/Rondje_om_de_kerk.308.tar/rondje_om_de_kerk.308/main.nut
13:59:54  <PublicServer> planetmaker: [2009-10-03 15:59:51] dbg: [ai] The first is taking precedence.
13:59:55  <PublicServer> planetmaker: [2009-10-03 15:59:51] dbg: [grf] NewGRF 57A50001 (was__world_airliners_set_.alpha/was.grf) not found; checksum 52DE8F250C218E524065141967AD40A8
13:59:55  <PublicServer> planetmaker: [2009-10-03 15:59:51] dbg: [ai] Registering two AIs with the same name and version
13:59:57  <PublicServer> planetmaker: [2009-10-03 15:59:51] dbg: [ai]   1: content_download/ai/Rondje_om_de_kerk.290.tar/rondje_om_de_kerk.290/main.nut
13:59:57  <PublicServer> planetmaker: [2009-10-03 15:59:51] dbg: [ai]   2: content_download/ai/Rondje_om_de_kerk.308.tar/rondje_om_de_kerk.308/main.nut
13:59:59  <PublicServer> planetmaker: [2009-10-03 15:59:51] dbg: [ai] The first is taking precedence.
13:59:59  <PublicServer> planetmaker: you have 5 more messages
14:00:04  <planetmaker> ah
14:00:28  <Chris_Booth> try '!rcon load 1
14:00:38  <planetmaker> it was the correct save
14:00:46  <Chris_Booth> i have a save
14:00:50  <planetmaker> but wrongly prepared ;-)
14:00:53  <Ammler> !content
14:01:03  <PublicServer> *** Ammler has updated content from BaNaNaS.
14:01:08  <planetmaker> WAS was obviously not loaded
14:01:10  <Chris_Booth> you fixed it?
14:01:18  <planetmaker> no. new one
14:02:07  <Chris_Booth> !dl
14:02:07  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: !dl autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x
14:02:16  <Chris_Booth> !dl win32
14:02:17  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r17683/openttd-trunk-r17683-windows-win32.zip
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14:03:01  <Ammler> planetmaker: afaik, it needs a restart of the server to load new downloads, not sure anymore, maybe fixed.
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14:03:17  <planetmaker> ah, crap.
14:03:22  <planetmaker> now ap has issues again :-(
14:03:26  <Chris_Booth> do you want my new game?
14:03:48  <planetmaker> well. yes and no :-)
14:03:57  <Chris_Booth> 8)
14:04:03  <planetmaker> I prepared a game with Swedish theme (and NARS 2 trains)
14:04:06  <Chris_Booth> this is a yes or no question
14:04:09  <planetmaker> did we have such theme here
14:04:13  <planetmaker> ?
14:04:20  <Chris_Booth> i have swedish towns and trains
14:04:27  <Chris_Booth> on the isle of white
14:04:32  <planetmaker> swedish trains are crap
14:04:43  <planetmaker> I had it first, too. But the 7.2 version is very buggy
14:04:49  <Chris_Booth> i want to play with them
14:04:57  <Chris_Booth> NARS 2 crap IMO
14:05:01  <planetmaker> never used them, did a quick check, found only errors there
14:05:20  <planetmaker> on very first sight
14:05:47  <Chris_Booth> i have never played swidish train but i think it will be fun swedish towns and trains
14:05:50  <planetmaker> well. Not only. But more than two. Straight in the purchase list and build view. 5 or so. In 30 seconds
14:06:01  <planetmaker> completely off-alignement
14:06:09  <planetmaker> I don't want them here yet :-)
14:06:21  <Chris_Booth> i dont want you here (joking)
14:06:44  <planetmaker> right. I should work. You're absolutely right
14:07:07  <planetmaker> got to prepare an answer on industrial proposals...
14:07:09  <Chris_Booth> no you should play its the weekend
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14:08:30  <Chris_Booth> ok swedish trains have some invisible sprites
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14:16:18  <Chris_Booth> so you gont want my map planetmaker even if i change the train set?
14:16:40  <planetmaker> then it will be similar to mine, won't it? :-)
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14:17:00  <planetmaker> well. I don't care about the map too much. What else is your settings?
14:17:18  <planetmaker> I won't be able to play anyway
14:17:26  <Chris_Booth> ex's city builder
14:17:37  <Chris_Booth> mean temerate cities need food and goods to grow
14:17:44  <planetmaker> sounds interesting
14:18:06  <Chris_Booth> can set or NARS 2
14:18:27  <Ammler> planetmaker: adding a "_" as versioning isn't that obvious...
14:18:28  <planetmaker> canset is OOOLD ;-)
14:18:39  <planetmaker> Ammler: hu?
14:18:49  <planetmaker> ah, that one :-P
14:18:57  <planetmaker> yes, it isn't.
14:19:09  <planetmaker> my fault ;-)
14:19:11  <Chris_Booth> UKRS and DB set XL are old
14:19:15  <Chris_Booth> we still play them
14:19:16  <Ammler> canset isn't old, but slow, like nars
14:19:26  <planetmaker> I actually thought, I'd overwrite it, but I failed in that
14:19:32  <Chris_Booth> they both have 201 kph locos
14:19:58  <Ammler> canset is a very nice sp set
14:20:17  <planetmaker> or let's do a back2basics game: only station grfs, but no trainset
14:20:39  <Ammler> or a RV only game like Mark suggested...
14:21:01  <planetmaker> that'd be something for a change, too
14:21:07  <planetmaker> and let's get WAS into it.
14:21:11  <planetmaker> They deserve it.
14:21:16  <Chris_Booth> WAS?
14:21:21  <planetmaker> Even if we only use them as moneymaker
14:21:25  <planetmaker> world airline set
14:21:41  <planetmaker> and Swedish towns :-)
14:21:43  <Chris_Booth> with RV you dont realy need an MM
14:21:53  <planetmaker> that's true
14:22:00  <Chris_Booth> but HEQS must be in RV's
14:22:10  <planetmaker> so... WAS despite that we don't use it ;-)
14:22:16  <planetmaker> it forces people to download it :-P
14:22:29  <Ammler> yeah, I should too
14:22:54  <Ammler> complained about the ugly release but never downloaded it self ;-)
14:22:54  <planetmaker> I have the repo here, but terribly outdated, I guess
14:22:55  <Chris_Booth> maybe a mixed RV and train game with HEQS as feeders?
14:23:03  <planetmaker> haha :-) @ Ammler
14:23:14  <planetmaker> Chris_Booth: why not. Vanilla trains?
14:23:25  <Ammler> planetmaker: don't build it yourself
14:23:26  <planetmaker> make an island region maybe.
14:23:34  <Ammler> I wouldn't trust, it creates same md5sum
14:23:41  <planetmaker> Ammler: me neither
14:23:50  <Ammler> actually worth a test :-P
14:23:55  <planetmaker> well. For playing I use content download anyway
14:24:06  <Chris_Booth> this new nightly is realy bugy
14:24:14  <Chris_Booth> with the newgrf list
14:24:38  <XeryusTC> hmm, no server?
14:24:43  <Ammler> I fear the last working patch is now gone, either?
14:24:43  <Chris_Booth> no map
14:24:50  <XeryusTC> tgp?
14:24:57  <Ammler> no better newgrf gui anymore...
14:25:36  <Ammler> planetmaker: did you patch the server?
14:26:09  <Ammler> doesn't look like
14:27:12  <Chris_Booth> so RV game?
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14:27:50  <Ammler> planetmaker: I am a bit confuzzled about the server compile,
14:28:18  <planetmaker> Ammler: no
14:28:23  <planetmaker> patches don't apply anymore
14:28:26  <planetmaker> at least bb
14:28:43  <Ammler> (what counts...)
14:28:48  <planetmaker> yeah, I know
14:29:29  <Ammler> cp -Rf bundle/* autopilot/
14:29:54  <planetmaker> not autopilot/bundle? hm
14:29:59  <Ammler> no :-)
14:30:00  <planetmaker> nvm
14:30:11  <planetmaker> ah, that all sucks :S
14:30:37  <Ammler> @wiki ServerAdministration
14:30:40  <Webster> Search results for "ServerAdministration" - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=ServerAdministration
14:30:57  <planetmaker> yeah. But I should know by now. But I never do...
14:31:14  <Ammler> and the wiki is fine about that.
14:31:55  <Chris_Booth> 512^2 RV island game with WAS HEQS and HOVS?
14:32:24  <planetmaker> Chris_Booth: what about 256 x 1024?
14:32:36  <planetmaker> what's HOVS?
14:32:44  <Chris_Booth> HOVS bus set
14:33:21  <Chris_Booth> i dont like 1024 i like 1023
14:33:21  <Ammler> the mini bus set from pikka
14:33:36  <planetmaker> right
14:33:50  <Chris_Booth> well 1023 has lots of 1's in it
14:33:55  <planetmaker> then take 1023
14:34:01  <Chris_Booth> while 1024 has tomany '0' in it
14:34:02  <planetmaker> e.g. use Northern border: water
14:34:32  <Chris_Booth> 64 2048?
14:34:49  <Chris_Booth> long but narrow maps
14:34:56  <Ammler> http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/index.php?title=Server_Administration&diff=10320&oldid=10319 <-- just you can't say I didn't document it :-P
14:35:01  <planetmaker> hm... then 128
14:35:23  <Ammler> almost 3 months ago ;-)
14:35:45  <planetmaker> I know :-)
14:35:48  <planetmaker> in principle
14:36:23  <Chris_Booth> where shall i upload map to?
14:39:15  <Ammler> whereever you want, as long as you got a wget save link
14:39:38  <Ammler> safe*
14:39:52  <Chris_Booth> ok i uploaded it to the dev web file uploader
14:44:01  <planetmaker> that's which link?
14:44:14  <Chris_Booth> not sure
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14:46:09  <Chris_Booth> http://mz.openttdcoop.org/play-is/config/uploads/PSG_161_start.sav < something like that i think
14:46:25  <Chris_Booth> no that does work
14:47:31  <Razaekal> CB, i already made a map
14:47:37  <Razaekal> and mark uploaded it
14:47:39  <Razaekal> iirc
14:47:44  <Chris_Booth> it doesnt work
14:47:50  <Chris_Booth> you got it still
14:47:54  <Razaekal> yea
14:47:58  <Chris_Booth> i can fix it and make it work
14:47:59  <Razaekal> as a scenario file
14:48:10  <Razaekal> got email?
14:48:31  <Chris_Booth> check PM
14:48:39  <planetmaker> Razaekal: that's a broken savegame
14:48:44  <planetmaker> paused due to an error
14:48:54  <Razaekal> weird
14:48:56  <Razaekal> one sec
14:49:24  <Chris_Booth> i will fix raz's map and we can play th\t
14:49:43  <Razaekal> just gimme a bit to doublecheck that it works
14:50:02  <planetmaker> nah, now give me yours, Chris_Booth :-)
14:50:19  <Chris_Booth> mine is uploaded to the devzone
14:50:27  <Chris_Booth> just dont know what the URL is
14:50:29  <Razaekal> how do you set parameters on a grf?
14:50:39  <planetmaker> CIA-4>	OpenTTD: rubidium * r17685 /trunk/src/ (network/network.cpp saveload/afterload.cpp): -Fix: autounpausing kept trying to unpause a loaded game that was paused due to an error. Just reject such savegames in dedicated servers. <-- Razaekal
14:50:40  <Chris_Booth> click the set parameter button
14:50:41  <Razaekal> pm: :-(
14:50:58  <planetmaker> killed about 4 hours of this day for me
14:51:04  <planetmaker> at least
14:51:04  <Razaekal> sorry
14:51:38  <Chris_Booth> http://mz.openttdcoop.org/play-is/config/files.php?file=UFNHXyAxNjFfU3RhcnQuc2F2 <pm is uploaded to there
14:51:49  <Chris_Booth> but the only URl i can find is the one to delete it
14:54:22  <Razaekal> sent
14:54:27  <Chris_Booth> got
14:54:55  <Razaekal> lemme know if it has errors
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14:56:44  <Chris_Booth> i thought it was decided we were going to have an RV game?
14:56:55  <Chris_Booth> but you have included logic engine
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14:58:06  <Chris_Booth> you have 3 train depots loaded
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14:58:48  <Razaekal> *shrug*
14:58:50  <Razaekal> my first map
14:59:01  <planetmaker> he. yes. now I deleted it, Chris_Booth :-P
14:59:09  <planetmaker> following the URL :-(
14:59:24  <planetmaker> reading IRC only up to your link :-P
14:59:30  <Razaekal> and you decided it was going to be a RV game long after i gave mark the first map
14:59:55  <Chris_Booth> i dont know i heard mark talking about it yesterday
15:00:00  <Razaekal> that map was meant for a moderately high difficulty train game
15:00:33  <Chris_Booth> planetmaker: you want me to re-upload?
15:00:49  <planetmaker> if you care: yes
15:01:00  <planetmaker> otherwise I'll upload a quickly made game
15:01:09  <Chris_Booth> done
15:01:11  <planetmaker> and leave you play with that
15:02:03  <Chris_Booth> raz there is nothing wrong with your GRFs apart from you have a few redundant GRF that will load over other (listed in PM to you)
15:02:11  <Chris_Booth> we can use the map in 162
15:02:41  <Razaekal> alright
15:02:47  <Razaekal> i suppose a RV game would be interesting
15:07:40  <Chris_Booth> Ammler: how do i get the URL for an uploaded file in devzone
15:07:47  <Chris_Booth> (not the deteling one)
15:07:53  <Ammler> :-)
15:08:14  <Ammler> http://mz.openttdcoop.org/play-is/save/uploads
15:08:20  <Ammler> (as always...)
15:08:30  <Chris_Booth> aaah i see now
15:09:10  <Chris_Booth> http://mz.openttdcoop.org/play-is/save/uploads/PSG_ 161_Start.sav
15:09:36  <Chris_Booth> 'http://mz.openttdcoop.org/play-is/save/uploads/PSG_ 161_Start.sav'
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15:10:10  <Chris_Booth> it doesnt like my URL
15:10:30  <Razaekal> you have a space in it
15:10:38  <Razaekal> http://mz.openttdcoop.org/play-is/save/uploads/PSG_161_Start.sav
15:10:39  <Razaekal> there
15:10:52  <Razaekal> nvm
15:11:11  <Razaekal> ah
15:11:15  <Razaekal> http://mz.openttdcoop.org/play-is/save/uploads/PSG_%20161_Start.sav
15:11:25  <planetmaker> urg. space
15:11:32  <Razaekal> yea
15:11:39  <Razaekal> html space code = %20
15:11:45  <planetmaker> I know.
15:11:50  <planetmaker> in URL
15:11:54  <planetmaker> but openttd chokes on it
15:12:07  <planetmaker> in command line mode
15:12:22  <Razaekal> need somebody to reupload, then
15:12:36  <Chris_Booth> i will change name
15:13:54  <Chris_Booth> http://mz.openttdcoop.org/play-is/save/uploads/PSG_161_Start.sav
15:14:11  <Chris_Booth> no space
15:14:17  <Chris_Booth> i should be banned from typing
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15:15:47  <planetmaker> nice
15:15:52  <planetmaker> (it's not the map)
15:15:59  <Chris_Booth> ooh
15:16:09  <Chris_Booth> i was going to say it doesnt like my save either
15:16:22  <planetmaker> then it wouldn't like mine either
15:16:28  <planetmaker> which sounds unlikely
15:16:47  <Chris_Booth> sounds like its broken
15:17:00  <planetmaker> and the "error" is completely different wrt what ap gives me
15:17:12  <Razaekal> so it wasnt my save in the first place?
15:17:15  <Razaekal> :-P
15:17:30  <planetmaker> because that IS broken
15:17:43  <Razaekal> phooey
15:17:44  <planetmaker> you didn't read the fix I posted here, eh?
15:17:45  <Razaekal> anyway
15:17:50  <planetmaker> that's due to your savegame
15:18:06  <planetmaker> but it only prevents loading corrupted saves in multiplayer
15:18:17  <Razaekal> i didn't see a fix, other than the 'just reject such savegames'
15:18:37  <planetmaker> 0]	<planetmaker>	CIA-4> OpenTTD: rubidium * r17685 /trunk/src/ (network/network.cpp saveload/afterload.cpp): -Fix: autounpausing kept trying to unpause a loaded game that was paused due to an error. Just reject such savegames in dedicated servers. <-- Razaekal  <-- for you again
15:18:40  <Chris_Booth> there is nothing wrong with my save
15:18:46  <planetmaker> nope there isn't
15:18:55  <planetmaker> server is running. ap is not
15:19:31  <planetmaker> @topic add 1 No autopilot currently. Just join
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15:19:35  <planetmaker> @undo
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15:19:46  <planetmaker> @topic add No autopilot currently. Just join
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15:21:36  <Chris_Booth> server is running r17683M
15:21:41  <Chris_Booth> what is moded?
15:21:52  <planetmaker> ah shit
15:21:58  <planetmaker> I don't know.
15:22:01  <planetmaker> and it shouldn't
15:22:28  <planetmaker> ah, yes.
15:22:33  <planetmaker> the fix to detect broken savegames
15:23:22  <Razaekal> hmm
15:23:30  <Razaekal> server not responding to my connection attemps
15:23:46  <planetmaker> no. I just stoped, re-compiled and reload :-P
15:23:48  <Chris_Booth> Razaekal: check version
15:23:57  <Razaekal> it says r17683
15:23:58  <Razaekal> no M
15:24:34  <planetmaker> !ping
15:24:43  <^Spike^> seems down to me
15:24:47  <Chris_Booth> pong
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15:24:54  <^Spike^> autottd gets no response... openttd itself gets no response
15:25:16  <planetmaker> openttd will now
15:25:42  <Chris_Booth> remove server password?
15:26:18  <^Spike^> disown
15:26:20  <^Spike^> is pw
15:26:21  <^Spike^> atm
15:26:30  <^Spike^> or was
15:26:56  <planetmaker> @topic change -1 s/join/use pw 'cheery'/
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15:31:46  <DCritic> !dl
15:31:51  <DCritic> !dl win64
15:32:01  <Chris_Booth> Auto pilot is down
15:32:02  <DCritic> ....
15:32:07  <DCritic> ok
15:32:10  <Chris_Booth> server is up
15:32:15  <Chris_Booth> password is in topic
15:32:15  <DCritic> so how do we get password?
15:32:23  <Chris_Booth> but you need to get save your self
15:32:23  <DCritic> ok
15:32:26  <DCritic> ok
15:32:32  <Chris_Booth> No autopilot currently. Just use pw 'cheery
15:32:39  <DCritic> ok
15:37:08  <Ammler> do you mind me trying to get it running?
15:37:23  <Chris_Booth> please get ap running ammler
15:37:51  <Chris_Booth> bye bye server
15:38:00  <Chris_Booth> ammler mind if i fix the save?
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15:38:38  <DCritic> is server up because it's not in the list
15:38:44  <Razaekal> it's not
15:38:45  <planetmaker> Chris_Booth: you mean the time?
15:38:48  <planetmaker> No
15:38:50  <DCritic> hmm
15:38:55  <Ammler> I took a save
15:39:06  <Ammler> oh, you are back
15:39:13  <Ammler> planetmaker: what's the reason for no ap?
15:39:22  <Ammler> (if you know)
15:40:38  <DCritic> hey can we get a fix pls
15:41:18  <Chris_Booth> i have fixed the save
15:42:00  <DCritic> how about the server?
15:42:08  <Chris_Booth> not my job
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15:42:24  <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged
15:42:24  <PublicServer> Loading default savegame
15:42:24  <PublicServer> @revision r17683
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15:42:32  <Chris_Booth> i dont write TCL
15:43:04  <DCritic> !passwrod
15:43:07  <DCritic> !password
15:43:08  <PublicServer> DCritic: guiled
15:43:26  <Ammler> !info
15:43:26  <PublicServer> Ammler: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'The Alpine Getaway, Inc.'  Year Founded: 1970  Money: 417536640  Loan: 0  Value: 417662206  (T:1, R:0, P:7, S:0) unprotected
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15:43:34  <Ammler> Chris_Booth: is that what it should be?
15:43:42  <Chris_Booth> no
15:43:48  <PublicServer> <DCritic> no
15:43:50  <Chris_Booth> should have 9 million
15:43:52  <PublicServer> <DCritic> this is old
15:43:59  <PublicServer> <DCritic> no trains
15:44:03  <PublicServer> Server closed down by admin
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15:44:29  <Chris_Booth> should be PSG_161_Start.save
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15:44:34  <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged
15:44:35  <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)'
15:44:35  <PublicServer> @revision r17683
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15:44:41  <Ammler> !info
15:44:41  <PublicServer> Ammler: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Longisland Inc.'  Year Founded: 1930  Money: 198245  Loan: 300000  Value: 1  (T:0, R:4, P:0, S:0) unprotected
15:44:43  <DCritic> !password
15:44:44  <PublicServer> DCritic: cannon
15:44:45  <Ammler> this one?
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15:45:02  <planetmaker> in principle yes. But I think CB wanted to fix the date
15:45:03  <Chris_Booth> no
15:45:09  <PublicServer> <DCritic> what is this
15:45:10  <planetmaker> No plan MM at that time
15:45:16  <planetmaker> a short-coming of WAS, quite clearly
15:45:22  <Chris_Booth> breakdowns are on
15:45:25  <Ammler> that is the one which ran on the server before I quit
15:45:28  <planetmaker> that can be fixed
15:45:29  <Chris_Booth> and wrong station spread
15:45:35  <planetmaker> also
15:45:41  <planetmaker> via rcon
15:45:46  <planetmaker> !time
15:45:46  <PublicServer> planetmaker: 17:45 (CEST)
15:45:50  <planetmaker> !date
15:45:51  <PublicServer> planetmaker: 16 Dec 1931
15:45:58  <planetmaker> ^ that cannot
15:46:29  <Chris_Booth> Ammler: >	should be called PSG_161_Start.sav
15:46:36  <Chris_Booth> should start arround 1970
15:46:44  <Chris_Booth> and have 9 million cash
15:46:51  <Ammler> and where is that save?
15:46:58  <Ammler> url please
15:47:03  <Chris_Booth> http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/config/files.php?caba366ac173bf19fcb1187460130ee1
15:47:15  <Ammler> oh, I need to delete it again?
15:47:17  <Chris_Booth> should be able to find it with !rcon ls
15:47:29  <Ammler> ah, that is ps :-)
15:47:41  <Chris_Booth> if you read yes
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15:48:27  <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged
15:48:27  <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)'
15:48:27  <PublicServer> @revision r17683
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15:48:35  <Ammler> !info
15:48:35  <PublicServer> Ammler: #:1(Blue) Company Name: 'Unnamed'  Year Founded: 1930  Money: 9996550  Loan: 0  Value: 9996550  (T:0, R:0, P:0, S:0) unprotected
15:48:36  <DCritic> !passwrod
15:48:41  <DCritic> !password
15:48:41  <PublicServer> DCritic: jigsaw
15:48:45  <DCritic> jigsaw
15:48:51  <Chris_Booth> that looks like it
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15:49:03  <De_Ghosty> !date
15:49:03  <PublicServer> De_Ghosty:  9 Jul 1960
15:49:16  <Razaekal> you just put it on accelerate, right?
15:49:20  <PublicServer> <DCritic> it is i think
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15:49:34  <Chris_Booth> no i cheated the date forward
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15:49:38  <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players)
15:49:39  <Razaekal> oh
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15:49:55  <Chris_Booth> !password
15:49:55  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: jigsaw
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15:50:15  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> noise concerns
15:50:22  <PublicServer> <DCritic> where do network plans go?
15:50:32  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> on the map
15:50:36  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> where ever you like
15:50:41  <PublicServer> <DCritic> ok
15:51:37  <PublicServer> <DCritic> wait so... what is this/
15:51:42  <PublicServer> <DCritic> why no railroad
15:51:43  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> RV game#
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15:52:35  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> who deleted my airport?
15:52:40  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> i moved it
15:52:43  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> not deleted
15:52:52  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but where it was it got 2 towns
15:53:20  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> one sec
15:53:59  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> you want to move the airports CLOSER together
15:54:02  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> not farther apart
15:54:41  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> at the speed planes go make very small difference
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15:55:27  <Chris_Booth> ok i need to go now
15:55:30  <Chris_Booth> but BBL
15:56:32  <Chris_Booth> erm i think i may have left NOAI on aswell
15:58:30  <PublicServer> <DCritic> when can you turn on railroads
15:58:47  <Chris_Booth> never as this is an RV only game
15:58:50  <Chris_Booth> RV only
16:03:37  <Ammler> !rcon net_frame_freq
16:03:37  <PublicServer> Ammler: Current value for 'frame_freq' is: '0' (min: 0, max: 100)
16:03:40  <Ammler> !rcon net_frame_freq 4
16:04:49  <DCritic> what is RV? road vehicle?
16:05:15  <PublicServer> <Spike> y
16:11:27  <Ammler> @psgnr 161
16:11:38  <Ammler> @wiki webster
16:11:40  <Webster> Search results for "webster" - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=webster
16:12:55  <^Spike^> @number 161
16:13:19  <planetmaker> @psg 161
16:13:19  <Webster> Public Server Game
16:13:36  <planetmaker> he
16:13:53  <planetmaker> @topic change 1 s/#160/#161/
16:13:53  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #160 (r17683) | STAGE: fixing ap | www.openttdcoop.org | Use !help for IRC-commands | Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/ | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | IS2/FIRS game at #openttdcoop.dev | New players, use @quickstart | Xeryus disable awaynick | No autopilot currently. Just use pw 'cheery'"
16:13:57  <Ammler> hehe
16:14:04  <Ammler> @topic remove -1
16:14:04  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #160 (r17683) | STAGE: fixing ap | www.openttdcoop.org | Use !help for IRC-commands | Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/ | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | IS2/FIRS game at #openttdcoop.dev | New players, use @quickstart | Xeryus disable awaynick"
16:14:05  <^Spike^> :)
16:14:19  <planetmaker> @topic change 2 s/#160/#161/
16:14:19  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #161 (r17683) | STAGE: fixing ap | www.openttdcoop.org | Use !help for IRC-commands | Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/ | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | IS2/FIRS game at #openttdcoop.dev | New players, use @quickstart | Xeryus disable awaynick"
16:14:23  <planetmaker> :-)
16:14:29  <Ammler> XeryusTC: have you done your TODO?
16:14:50  <XeryusTC> ?
16:15:02  <planetmaker> Xeryus disable awaynick
16:15:02  <Ammler> away nick crap
16:15:24  <XeryusTC> i have disabled it
16:15:33  <Ammler> @topic remove -1
16:15:33  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #161 (r17683) | STAGE: fixing ap | www.openttdcoop.org | Use !help for IRC-commands | Screenshots: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/img/ | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | IS2/FIRS game at #openttdcoop.dev | New players, use @quickstart"
16:16:01  <XeryusTC> and what is the problem with it all of a sudden?
16:16:46  <^Spike^> @setpsg
16:16:46  <Webster> ^Spike^: (setpsg <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "topic change 2 s/PSG #\d+/PSG #/".
16:16:47  <^Spike^> :)
16:17:00  <Ammler> it isn't sudden, it was never accepted
16:19:16  <Ammler> complains came more from #openttd, but I fully agree with those :-)
16:19:48  <^Spike^> basicly you're just saying: You're not allowed to change nicks imo but well...
16:19:59  <Ammler> you are
16:20:18  <^Spike^> well then it should also be possible to change it if you go away
16:20:19  <XeryusTC> well, the #openttd people complain about everyone that changes their nicks once a year
16:20:23  <Ammler> but you aren't allowed to spam the channel, when you are absent
16:20:39  <^Spike^> how do you determine if someone is absent
16:20:58  <XeryusTC> i dont spam it when im absent, i just notify everyone when my pc turns off ;)
16:21:02  <Ammler> if he changes to a awaynick automatically, he obviously is :-)
16:21:03  <XeryusTC> and on :P
16:21:08  <PublicServer> *** DCritic has left the game (leaving)
16:21:18  <XeryusTC> so at the moment of the change im actually there ;)
16:21:38  <Ammler> XeryusTC: you can say that with a Hi and a Bye
16:21:43  <^Spike^> i was talking in general.. how do you determine if something is an away nick or not
16:21:56  *** Razaekal is now known as Raz|Away
16:22:03  <Raz|Away> i think that's obvious >.>
16:22:05  <Ammler> @kban Raz|Away 1000
16:22:05  *** Webster sets mode: +b *!~asdf@resnet229-190.resnet.wmich.edu
16:22:06  *** Raz|Away was kicked by Webster (Ammler)
16:22:40  *** Ammler sets mode: -b *!~asdf@resnet229-190.resnet.wmich.edu
16:22:51  <XeryusTC> Ammler: the guy was only trying to demonstrate something
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16:23:02  <Razaekel> that wasnt very nice
16:23:04  <Razaekel> :-(
16:23:07  <Ammler> XeryusTC: me too :-P
16:23:30  <XeryusTC> but main point is that the #openttd people complain about changing nicks too much
16:23:41  <XeryusTC> my nick changes only on reboots and when i'm away for a long time
16:23:50  <^Spike^> waht if i turn my nick around how you determine if that is my away nick
16:23:53  <Ammler> well, if it happens from same people, it is very annoying
16:24:08  <Ammler> specially, if you already told those guys, they shouldn't
16:24:10  <Razaekel> mirc has an option to ignore nickchanges
16:24:17  <Razaekel> they should get mirc
16:24:23  <Razaekel> all the problems go away
16:24:25  <Razaekel> XD
16:24:27  <XeryusTC> it happens only once every two or three weeks
16:24:32  <XeryusTC> Ammler: they told me once, when i was afk
16:24:47  <Ammler> Razaekel: it's a matter of respect
16:24:50  <XeryusTC> maybe i should have changed my nick to reflect that too
16:25:15  <Razaekel> matter of respect how?
16:25:33  <Razaekel> it's a good idea to inform when yer not at the keyboard, so people aren't talking to thin air
16:25:42  <Ammler> if you like give your status with the nick, use MSN :-)
16:25:49  <XeryusTC> why dont they respect my wish to tell people that they're talking to thin air?
16:26:09  <XeryusTC> msn has custom statusses, irc does not
16:26:31  <^Spike^> irc has /away.. but 99% of the time ppl don't first whois before they talk
16:26:33  <^Spike^> they just talk
16:26:38  <^Spike^> and talk and talk
16:26:46  <^Spike^> and after querying you they suddenly realize you are gone
16:27:03  <Ammler> you could enable a pm if someone talks to you while you are away
16:27:11  <Razaekel> sure
16:27:16  <Razaekel> spam somebody with PMs
16:27:22  <^Spike^> but that could be more annoying then a nickchange
16:27:29  <^Spike^> nickchange shows it immediatly you're not there
16:27:32  <planetmaker> how do I do that, Ammler ?
16:27:40  <Ammler> dih does that
16:27:41  <XeryusTC> Ammler: not everyone notices that you're pm-ing them right away
16:28:01  <Ammler> planetmaker: I don't like that either, so i dunno, how :-)
16:28:25  <planetmaker> XeryusTC: if you set yourself to "away", it's already indicated
16:28:28  <PublicServer> *** Razaekel has left the game (leaving)
16:28:28  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players)
16:28:36  <planetmaker> at least my clientlist shows it clearly
16:28:39  <XeryusTC> planetmaker: how is it then?
16:28:39  <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving)
16:28:46  <XeryusTC> my client only keeps track of away status up to x nicks
16:28:55  <^Spike^> pm that means your client just whoisses everyone every x secs
16:29:07  <^Spike^> not efficient but well
16:29:16  <planetmaker> ^Spike^: dunno. Maybe. I use xchat and chatzilla. And it works in both.
16:29:17  <Ammler> Razaekel: in general, everything which came from your side while you are afk, is spam
16:29:24  <planetmaker> chatzilla is quite nice on the traffic still afaik
16:29:31  <XeryusTC> Ammler: so the pm is spam too
16:29:32  <^Spike^> it isn't a standard way in irc to do that other then whois..
16:29:34  <XeryusTC> hardly useful too then
16:29:37  <Ammler> so if you use a bouncer or such, you really should use proper settings.
16:29:48  <XeryusTC> and then bots generating automated messages are spam too
16:29:48  <Razaekel> so, why are you advocating spamming people?
16:30:02  <XeryusTC> like Webster who retrieves the title of links and posts it here
16:30:06  <XeryusTC> i find that quite annoying
16:30:19  <planetmaker> hehe. ^ I'm with that, too
16:30:22  <Ammler> that is the official bot
16:30:29  <XeryusTC> yes, but the bot annoys me
16:30:37  <XeryusTC> and i cant put it on ignore because it tells other useful stuff
16:30:43  <Ammler> well, then make a ticket about. ;-)
16:30:46  <jonde> !password
16:30:46  <PublicServer> jonde: primer
16:30:51  <PublicServer> *** jondisti joined the game
16:30:57  <planetmaker> XeryusTC: the thing is: changing your nick really is not useful :-)
16:31:10  <XeryusTC> yes it is
16:31:10  <planetmaker> while it can be argued about a link's title
16:31:17  <XeryusTC> it tells people that they're talking to thin air
16:31:21  <planetmaker> XeryusTC: obviously not - as away is indicated
16:31:29  <XeryusTC> not automated ;)
16:31:31  <planetmaker> I know no client which does not
16:31:33  <XeryusTC> or well, i havent set it to do so
16:31:33  <planetmaker> yes
16:31:50  <XeryusTC> planetmaker> while it can be argued about a link's title <- it is useful to annoy people, as you agree yourself
16:31:59  <Ammler> XeryusTC: he just wanted so tsay, don't compare those
16:32:11  <XeryusTC> i have never actually looked at Webster's response and thought "maybe i should open that" or "maybe i shouldn't"
16:32:46  <Ammler> I think it useful for tt-forums links
16:33:05  <planetmaker> yes
16:33:07  <planetmaker> for them
16:33:07  <XeryusTC> well, i dont as i look at those links always
16:33:26  <XeryusTC> maybe you should set up a script for your client to retrieve them and not annoy us with it
16:33:52  <planetmaker> XeryusTC: that is not the issue, though
16:34:00  <Ammler> XeryusTC: that's another topic :-P
16:34:15  <XeryusTC> you dont want to discuss it anymore because i have a point?
16:34:19  <planetmaker> two wrongs don't make one right
16:34:23  <PublicServer> *** jondisti has left the game (leaving)
16:34:26  <Ammler> but that means, you agree on the former discussion :-)
16:34:33  <planetmaker> XeryusTC: discuss that with who may change it. It's not me. Nor Ammler
16:34:46  <XeryusTC> who has admin rights to the bot then?
16:34:51  <planetmaker> KenjiE20:
16:34:58  <XeryusTC> i was always under the impression that Ammler does
16:34:58  <planetmaker> STILL: away nicks suck
16:35:10  <XeryusTC> i dont think so
16:35:11  <Ammler> thanks  pm :-)
16:35:15  <planetmaker> at least as much. They provide no useful info at all
16:35:26  <XeryusTC> nor do people on any other irc channel that i've been on
16:35:31  <planetmaker> a link description may be completely unnecessary. But sometimes not
16:35:46  <Ammler> XeryusTC: you didn't get blame that much, because you rather got to |bnc
16:36:15  <Ammler> why should someone know, if you run your pc or not?
16:36:35  <Ammler> what's important is if you are online and afk
16:36:38  <XeryusTC> so, when i'm off on my vacation soon and the bouncer is still offline you wont be annoyed by the fact that i dont respond for a whole week while my nick is stil XeryusTC
16:36:54  <Ammler> but away
16:37:10  <Ammler> and if you are back, you say "Hi" :-P
16:37:28  <XeryusTC> on every single channel im on?
16:37:47  <planetmaker> that's the "away" setting for :-)
16:38:11  <XeryusTC> the away setting is useless anyway, when automated it turns on after x minutes, and it also does so when im watching a movie
16:38:18  <XeryusTC> so it gives an improper status as im not afk
16:38:25  <hylje> you are afk because you are watching a movie
16:38:28  <Ammler> I use away like you use awaynick
16:38:36  <planetmaker> yep
16:38:41  <planetmaker> no auto-away
16:38:48  <DCritic> a
16:38:52  <planetmaker> or time-out of 2h or so
16:38:56  * DCritic kjakjfaewflajwiogfaoga
16:39:04  <planetmaker> DCritic: ??
16:39:14  <Ammler> ctr-shif-a
16:39:15  <XeryusTC> hylje: im sitting behind my pc, how am i afk then?
16:39:35  <hylje> i doubt you are interacting with the movie
16:39:37  <XeryusTC> and i still respond to highlights most of the time when i see them appear
16:39:54  <planetmaker> then change your auto-away setting
16:39:57  <XeryusTC> also, the beauty of my dual screen setup comes into play there
16:40:07  <planetmaker> what's the issue with that?
16:40:18  <planetmaker> you look like fencing the wind
16:40:37  <hylje> i'll be as much of an asshat as i like thank you very much
16:41:11  <planetmaker> ...?
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16:44:00  <XeryusTC> planetmaker: you're just coming up with invalid arguments, and im telling you so ;)
16:44:24  <planetmaker> aha. And which argument is invalid in your eyes?
16:44:34  <planetmaker> or are they just because you *think*
16:44:59  <planetmaker> and don't know how to setup your IRC programme?
16:45:21  <XeryusTC> "you are afk now because your watching a movie" "but im doing something in my other screen too"
16:45:26  <XeryusTC> ah yes, valid point indeed...
16:45:51  <Razaekel> omg, it's impossible to both watch a movie and do something else at the same time!
16:45:57  <Razaekel> wth do you think yer doing?
16:46:07  <Razaekel> breaking the laws of physics!
16:46:09  <planetmaker> it's not a quote of mine. you're not afk when you watch movies. And if your IRC programme thinks so despite, it's a fault of it and its settings
16:46:18  <Ammler> women can
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16:46:44  <XeryusTC> planetmaker: so, automated away when not talking for x min is at fault when i do something in another program
16:46:45  *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v StarLite`
16:46:49  <Razaekel> are you a woman?
16:46:51  <XeryusTC> seems that is a bug of an irc feature
16:46:58  <planetmaker> XeryusTC: I told you: use a proper timeout
16:47:06  <XeryusTC> YES, LIKE 10 DAYS!
16:47:14  <planetmaker> my IRC never goes autoaway as long as I use *somewhen* my keyboard
16:47:18  <Ammler> I use it mannually
16:47:22  <XeryusTC> or well, when i turn my pc off and there is a guarantee that im not going to read it
16:47:23  <planetmaker> exactly
16:47:24  <Ammler> of if my pc gos down
16:47:30  <Ammler> or*
16:47:43  <XeryusTC> well, there is a problem, automated away, doing it manually *rolls eyes*
16:47:46  <planetmaker> use it manually as you did with the away nick
16:47:54  <XeryusTC> Ammler: EXACTLY what awaynick does...
16:47:56  <planetmaker> what problem is there?
16:48:26  <Ammler> XeryusTC: but I don't change the nick, come on!
16:48:28  <hylje> someone is thinking a status nickname is part of one's identity
16:48:29  <planetmaker> XeryusTC: no, it's redundant information
16:48:49  <planetmaker> you're indicated away with or without a nick change
16:49:13  <planetmaker> +1 @ hylje
16:50:00  <XeryusTC> planetmaker: yes, but do you notice a subtle color change in a list you never look at? that is what happens over here when someone uses /away
16:50:11  <XeryusTC> or do you notice a change in nick when you tab complete it
16:50:33  <planetmaker> XeryusTC: yes. Away nicks are pale. Present nicks are black
16:50:44  <hylje> if someone is not answering chances are he's afk
16:50:46  <^Spike^> pm and every irc client has that?
16:50:52  <planetmaker> and I get notified, if I talk to an away nick via highlight
16:50:55  <Razaekel> mirc doesnt have that
16:51:03  <^Spike^> i can give you a whole list...
16:51:18  <XeryusTC> and you keep track of your nick list all the time?
16:51:32  <planetmaker> it's to the left, always visible
16:51:40  <planetmaker> or to the right. Depending upon client
16:51:46  <Ammler> i know one IRC channel, which accept script kiddies, that is hell on internet
16:51:47  <^Spike^> or not at all
16:51:52  <XeryusTC> so when you need to talk someone you always look if they're available first?
16:51:52  <^Spike^> thinking CLI client
16:52:16  <planetmaker> XeryusTC: no. I just talk. If s/he answers, s/he's here. If not, she might or might not or just doesn't feel like
16:52:17  <Ammler> I was there for around 10mins, then I had to leave again,
16:52:56  <XeryusTC> so, you've got something complicated and important to tell and you talk to thin air
16:53:08  <XeryusTC> and you wont feel annoyed because you didnt know someone wasnt there
16:53:36  <planetmaker> XeryusTC: I may check that before I post 20 lines, eh?
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16:53:50  <planetmaker> and why should I be annoyed? About what?
16:53:51  <XeryusTC> yes, but do you?
16:54:01  <Ammler>  XeryusTC then rename manually and all is fine
16:54:14  <XeryusTC> ok
16:54:14  <planetmaker> XeryusTC: no
16:54:20  <planetmaker> I don't.
16:54:27  <XeryusTC> so when i rename manually it is ok but when it is done automagically it is not
16:54:36  <XeryusTC> even if it is on the same occasion?
16:54:37  <planetmaker> I start with a highlight line and the important fact or whatever
16:54:41  <XeryusTC> to exactly the same thing
16:54:42  <Ammler> everything done by script is worst
16:54:45  <planetmaker> if s/he's there, s/he'll answer
16:55:07  <XeryusTC> Ammler: i think the idea of a script is that you dont have to do the same tedious repetative thing over and over again
16:55:08  <Ammler> if you say "bye" and then change your nick
16:55:15  <Ammler> would be ok for me
16:55:37  <Ammler> but if you say bye and 10 hours later your nick changes, that is spam.
16:55:44  <planetmaker> you should / could now see that I'm away
16:56:13  <Chris_Booth> what if you like me and you away script doesnt alway work
16:56:13  <XeryusTC> Ammler: so if i automate it to say bye for me and then change the nick it would be ok too?
16:56:15  <Ammler> XeryusTC: you don't want to repeat it over and over again
16:56:19  <planetmaker> None of the other admins actually is :-)
16:56:22  <XeryusTC> because you wont notice that it is automated
16:56:24  <Ammler> but we should read it over and over agian?
16:57:05  <^Spike^> in the end.. the nick change maybe happens 2 times a day.. when you get here... and when you go away...
16:57:10  <^Spike^> big chance it's 6+ hours apart
16:57:15  <^Spike^> what is the problem with that
16:57:17  <planetmaker> which is about 2 times too much
16:57:23  <XeryusTC> actually, it happens every two weeks when i reboot my pc
16:57:24  <Ammler> ^Spike^: if you are around none.
16:57:25  <planetmaker> information I don't need.
16:57:27  *** ^Spike^ is now known as ^ekipS^
16:57:29  *** ^ekipS^ is now known as ^Spike^
16:57:30  <planetmaker> Times 100 people in the channel
16:57:30  <XeryusTC> or when i go away for the weekend and turn my pc off
16:57:32  <planetmaker> wow
16:57:36  <XeryusTC> and it happens exactly when im in here
16:57:45  <XeryusTC> planetmaker: turn off nick changes then
16:57:52  <XeryusTC> or notification thereof
16:57:59  <XeryusTC> if you have a problem with it
16:58:03  <Chris_Booth> !password
16:58:03  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: creaky
16:58:05  <^Spike^> pm what is the chance of ALL the nickchanges happening at the same time
16:58:14  <^Spike^> unless you get a botnet attack it's no problem at al
16:58:15  <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game
16:58:15  <XeryusTC> the only two occasions i have seen for nick changes on irc are for notices of awayness and for humour
16:58:19  <Ammler> ^Spike^: as a member, we can't ban you, that is why we ask.
16:58:26  <planetmaker> ^Spike^: over the day. You want to see backlog of channels?
16:58:27  <^Spike^> if you're talking about 50 bots joining and doing so... i can understand
16:59:07  <XeryusTC> Ammler: well, if you just ask i will decline then
16:59:13  <XeryusTC> *turns awaynick back on*
16:59:39  <Chris_Booth> away nicks are a good idea
16:59:51  <^Spike^> from experience i can tell that over the day is a big time perioud.. and that you won't notice it that much.. unless you put your sherlock holmes hat on and go look for nick changes :)
16:59:52  <Chris_Booth> so you dont try and talk to someone who isnt there
16:59:59  <Chris_Booth> or doesnt want to be spoken to
17:00:16  <^Spike^> and from experience i mean being in channels that have even higher activity that this/more colors and such.. compared to botnet attacks
17:00:20  <Ammler> ^Spike^: we talked around 1 hour just about that, so... :-P
17:01:04  <^Spike^> in the end in channels there are more things happening then just nick changes.. :)
17:01:05  <Ammler> ^Spike^: it annoys those who are more active.
17:01:31  <Ammler> and it simple no respect if you spam a channel without beeing active on that time.
17:01:35  <Chris_Booth> it doesnt annoy me
17:01:41  <Razaekel> nickchanges dont annoy me
17:01:50  <Razaekel> dont group everybody into your own preconceptions
17:01:50  <Ammler> you guys don't count, yet.
17:02:00  <Chris_Booth> Ammler: i dont count
17:02:05  <Razaekel> what does annoy me is mass quit/joins
17:02:16  <Ammler> Razaekel: that is the same.
17:02:32  <Chris_Booth> what annoys me is Ammler
17:02:35  <Ammler> but mostly not fixeable and not autoamtic
17:02:43  <XeryusTC> Ammler: so basicly you want everyone to use a bnc and never ever quit or change nick?
17:02:51  <XeryusTC> so you wont have a way of telling when someone is online or not
17:02:51  <Ammler> XeryusTC: no
17:02:58  <Ammler> best would be, nobody uses one
17:03:04  <XeryusTC> unfortunately you're not dutch, because i've got a good quote about that
17:03:25  <Chris_Booth> ammler a nick change is the same as a wuit
17:03:30  <XeryusTC> Chris_Booth> what annoys me is Ammler <- rather his poor grammar ;)
17:03:30  <Ammler> XeryusTC: it is so simple
17:03:34  * KenjiE20 wanders in
17:03:35  <Chris_Booth> and if i am not here i like to log
17:03:40  <KenjiE20> oh, lolitics
17:03:41  <Ammler> don't spam the channel if you are away...
17:03:55  * KenjiE20 decides to wander out again
17:04:09  <Ammler> and always keep in mind, that you might be connected to more than one channel at once.
17:04:10  <Chris_Booth> ammler if i leave IRC it put the same message as if i change my nick
17:04:16  <planetmaker> http://paste.openttd.org/217109 <-- with all these changes and w/o bouncers, etc, backlogs look like that
17:04:30  <XeryusTC> Ammler: im not away at the time of a nickchange
17:04:34  <XeryusTC> im always here if that happens
17:04:59  <XeryusTC> planetmaker: what is the problem if no one is talking anyway?
17:05:07  <XeryusTC> no one cares about such things then
17:05:09  <Ammler> if you change to |bnc, you are away, as you said self, your pc is off
17:05:12  <planetmaker> yeah. But the spam also happens, if people talk
17:05:14  <Chris_Booth> planetmaker: that is over days
17:05:29  <Chris_Booth> i left the channle twice
17:05:31  <planetmaker> Chris_Booth: I know. I didn't have logs here
17:05:35  <XeryusTC> it only becommes annoying when 20 nick changes happen at the same time, which it never
17:05:43  <XeryusTC> Ammler: im here at the time of the nickchange
17:05:48  <XeryusTC> i never shut my pc down remotely
17:05:59  <Ammler> so you could answer as |bnc?
17:05:59  <planetmaker> XeryusTC: so. Do we care? Do you talk then? 90% of the time: no
17:06:20  <planetmaker> you're principally online
17:06:31  <XeryusTC> well, if you dont care why are you complaining then?
17:06:32  <planetmaker> that's what it tells. But it doesn't mean that _you_ care
17:06:45  <Chris_Booth> i am going to turn my broken bouncer back on to annoy you all
17:07:00  <Ammler> Chris_Booth: you are easy fixed ;-)
17:07:11  <planetmaker> +il
17:07:31  <Chris_Booth> its not easy to fix me, if i am not broken
17:07:44  <Ammler> Chris_Booth: either you are new or member, but else I would ban you, if it annoys me.
17:08:05  <Chris_Booth> i can ban myself
17:08:07  <Chris_Booth> :P
17:08:18  <XeryusTC> i think i will go back to watching a movie again and ignoring you all
17:08:27  <Ammler> :-D
17:08:28  <XeryusTC> this discussion turned silly right after we started it anyway
17:08:30  <Chris_Booth> bye XeryusTC
17:08:50  <Ammler> XeryusTC: well, if it solved the issue, It was worth ;-)
17:08:55  <XeryusTC> especially since you seem to be wanting to please the devs only without thingking for yourself
17:09:06  <XeryusTC> Ammler: actually it didnt, i turned awaynick back on :P
17:09:30  <planetmaker> congratulations.
17:09:32  <Chris_Booth> combuster has loads of different nicks
17:09:39  <planetmaker> and got bans for some
17:09:44  <Chris_Booth> more annying than away nicks IMO
17:10:02  <Ammler> XeryusTC: well, you did now to be funny
17:10:16  *** Chris_Booth is now known as Booth
17:10:19  <planetmaker> that's a diplomatic way to put it.
17:10:45  <XeryusTC> Ammler: no, because you are all being silly and anal about something that you only complain about because one dev made a remark about it once
17:10:50  <XeryusTC> while you never noticed it before
17:10:57  <XeryusTC> stupid sheeple
17:11:04  <planetmaker> You're very presumptions asshole, frankly
17:11:07  <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost)
17:11:16  <Booth> i am going to change my nick on the hour now
17:11:16  <Ammler> it annoys myself much more then this dev.
17:11:23  <Ammler> but I wouldn't complain about.
17:11:41  <XeryusTC> so you suddenly do after someone else does?
17:11:47  <planetmaker> s/presumptions/presumptious/
17:11:49  <XeryusTC> why not just shut up about it again then?
17:12:17  <Ammler> I seriously hope, you did switch off it.
17:12:28  <Booth> you know arguing over silly thing over the internet is like winning in the paralymipcs
17:12:28  <planetmaker> XeryusTC: why do just something IN ORDER to annoy others? Hm?
17:13:15  <Ammler> XeryusTC: if you want, you can get a 2nd account, which you can enable those scripts
17:13:35  <Ammler> and use the other account for the channels, you shouldn't?
17:13:39  <planetmaker> all argument I ever heard was "I think it's great".
17:14:17  <XeryusTC> well, exactly the opposite of yours
17:14:19  <Booth> i think this is a stupid argument and have turned my away bouncer off
17:14:23  <XeryusTC> "someone else got annoyed, turn it off"
17:14:54  <Ammler> we too, and i am sure we told you quite many times
17:15:16  <Booth> Ammler: quite a few times
17:15:17  <Ammler> can't you rember the time where some members had sufixxes like ~zZz?
17:15:27  <XeryusTC> i never got told
17:15:35  <XeryusTC> i only seen someone tell me once, a dev, while i was away
17:15:47  <Ammler> well, we got tired about...
17:15:51  <Booth> @slowstart
17:15:51  <Webster> Read everything on the wiki, and I mean everything
17:16:09  <XeryusTC> you got tired before telling me?
17:16:10  <Ammler> speaking to you is mostly like speaking to a stone.
17:16:20  <DCritic> .......? who is webster
17:16:24  <DCritic> @slowstart
17:16:24  <Webster> Read everything on the wiki, and I mean everything
17:16:27  <DCritic> oh
17:16:29  <Booth> webster is our bot
17:16:29  <Webster> Infrastructure Sharing. See http://wiki.openttd.org/Is for more details.
17:16:29  <DCritic> nvm
17:16:52  <DCritic> no i thought someone said Read everything and was controlling himm
17:16:53  <Booth> that spinping is annoying
17:17:05  <Booth> +sniping
17:17:17  <DCritic> !password
17:17:17  <PublicServer> DCritic: gambit
17:17:28  <PublicServer> *** DCritic joined the game
17:17:29  <Booth> lots of people can talk through webster
17:18:03  <Booth> what annyos me the most about IRC is name highlighting
17:20:06  <planetmaker> Booth: if you don't want to receive highlights, you could probably turn them off. Or at least notifications about them.
17:20:27  <Ammler> hmm, actually that is THE feature of IRC :-)
17:20:29  <PublicServer> *** DCritic has left the game (leaving)
17:20:39  <planetmaker> hehe :-)
17:20:57  <DCritic> I am eating in a booth
17:20:59  <planetmaker> Turning off highlight for your own nick probably isn't sensible, yes
17:21:01  <DCritic> it highllights that
17:21:03  <Booth> i can turn agressive highlight off
17:21:04  <Ammler> @wiki IRC_Highlighting
17:21:07  <Webster> IRC Highlighting - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=IRC_Highlighting
17:21:21  <Booth> but if i ignor it for so long to start to buzz at me
17:22:56  <DCritic> Born_Acorn:
17:22:57  <DCritic> oops
17:23:08  <Booth> DCritic
17:23:10  <Booth> DCritic
17:23:11  <Booth> DCritic
17:23:13  <Booth> DCritic
17:23:14  <DCritic> DCritic:
17:23:15  <Booth> DCritic
17:23:16  <Booth> DCritic
17:23:18  <Booth> DCritic
17:23:19  <Booth> DCritic
17:23:21  <Booth> DCritic
17:23:23  <Booth> DCritic
17:23:33  <Booth> thought i would just highlight you back
17:23:39  <DCritic> Booth:
17:23:55  <Booth> yes DCritic
17:23:57  <DCritic> Aali:
17:24:15  <Booth> someone just found the tab button
17:24:18  <DCritic> who is aali
17:24:34  <Booth> @whois Aali
17:24:55  <DCritic> why is he here
17:24:58  <DCritic> he or she
17:25:24  <Booth> to play coop like the rest of us
17:25:36  <DCritic> well ive never seen him/her
17:25:44  <DCritic> or born_acorn
17:25:53  <DCritic> @whois Born_Acorn
17:26:08  <DCritic> @whois www.dcritic.com
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17:26:22  <DCritic> @whois dcritic.com
17:26:35  <DCritic> @whois mandrcon.com
17:26:37  <^Spike^> DCritic try /whois nickname
17:26:39  <^Spike^> :)
17:26:55  <DCritic> oh
17:27:46  <DCritic> @whois google.com
17:27:51  <DCritic> ...
17:27:56  <DCritic> what does that even do
17:28:02  <DCritic> @help
17:28:02  <Webster> DCritic: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
17:29:18  <DCritic> @ping
17:29:19  <Webster> pong
17:29:48  <DCritic> @8ball is Booth a noob?
17:30:10  <DCritic> @8ball [Is Booth a noob?]
17:30:15  <DCritic> @8ball
17:30:20  <DCritic> hmm
17:30:32  <ODM> someone seems bored
17:30:34  <DCritic> @coin
17:30:34  <Webster> DCritic: heads
17:30:45  <^Spike^> DCritic now to get heads another 99 times..
17:30:46  <^Spike^> :)
17:30:49  <DCritic> @8ball [<this>]
17:31:17  <DCritic> does this work
17:31:20  <KenjiE20> does now
17:31:30  <DCritic> @8ball [hi]
17:31:30  <Webster> DCritic: No chance.
17:31:52  <DCritic> @8ball am i annoying?
17:31:52  <Webster> DCritic: You know the answer better than I.
17:31:59  <DCritic> @8ball what is it
17:31:59  <Webster> DCritic: NO.
17:33:05  <Booth> DCritic: use '@kabanme'
17:33:12  <Booth> and do use all a favour
17:33:13  <DCritic> @herald add Born_Acorn DUDE UR NEVER ON
17:42:40  <Booth> !fish
17:42:40  <PublicServer> Booth: Today's fish is a sword fish, battered and fried.
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18:36:28  <planetmaker> !fish
18:36:28  <PublicServer> planetmaker: Today's fish is Trout, with chips. Enjoy your meal!
18:38:51  <Razaekel> dont make me hungry
18:38:52  <Razaekel> >.<
18:39:31  <welshdragon> i'm about to go make Chicken Risotto
18:39:43  <Razaekel> bastard
18:40:15  <Razaekel> ah well
18:40:39  <Razaekel> in a couple of hours i can go get some beef tornados with jalapeno ranch dip and cheese-stuffed rigatoni
18:41:58  <Booth> that seems ot cover all the major fat groups
18:42:55  <Razaekel> yea
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18:59:07  <welshdragon> sodding chicken had gone off
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20:20:42  <FrancoBegbie2> evening
20:21:54  <FrancoBegbie2> !players
20:21:56  <PublicServer> FrancoBegbie2: There are currently no clients connected to the server
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21:29:51  <DCritic> !players
21:29:53  <PublicServer> DCritic: There are currently no clients connected to the server
21:29:59  <DCritic> !password
21:29:59  <PublicServer> DCritic: drawls
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22:56:12  *** mib_g7htjcvw is now known as Kupuham
22:56:50  <Kupuham> !password
22:56:50  <PublicServer> Kupuham: anoint
22:58:21  <Kupuham> !ver windows32
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22:58:45  <tussengas> :p
22:59:47  <tussengas> test
22:59:54  <tussengas> test succeeded
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23:02:56  *** openttdcoop sets mode: +v mib_7drwuuqy
23:03:02  <mib_7drwuuqy> !download
23:03:02  <PublicServer> mib_7drwuuqy: !download autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x
23:03:11  <mib_7drwuuqy> !download win32
23:03:12  <PublicServer> mib_7drwuuqy: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r17683/openttd-trunk-r17683-windows-win32.zip
23:06:09  <DCritic> !players
23:06:11  <PublicServer> DCritic: There are currently no clients connected to the server
23:06:14  <tussengas> hey crit
23:06:18  <DCritic> ssssssssssssssum1 play
23:06:25  <tussengas> coming, i was waiting for the same ;)
23:06:29  <tussengas> !password
23:06:29  <PublicServer> tussengas: rapist
23:06:32  <DCritic> wow
23:06:33  <tussengas> rofl
23:07:01  <DCritic> the guy who makes ap must have a weird sense of humor
23:07:17  <PublicServer> *** DCritic joined the game
23:07:20  <mib_7drwuuqy> STAGE: fixing ap = ?
23:07:26  *** mib_7drwuuqy is now known as Kupuham
23:07:30  <tussengas> version mismatch?
23:07:32  <tussengas> !dl 32
23:07:33  <PublicServer> tussengas: unknown option "32"
23:07:36  <tussengas> !dl win32
23:07:36  <PublicServer> tussengas: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r17683/openttd-trunk-r17683-windows-win32.zip
23:07:45  <Kupuham> !password
23:07:45  <PublicServer> Kupuham: rapist
23:08:02  <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players)
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23:08:31  <Kupuham> Road only, =o
23:09:03  <PublicServer> *** tussengas joined the game
23:09:20  <PublicServer> <tussengas> there you go
23:09:41  <PublicServer> <tussengas> why ain't people changing topic when they change stage... :(
23:09:55  <Kupuham> ?
23:09:56  <tussengas> road only?
23:10:04  <PublicServer> <DCritic> yeah
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23:10:15  <PublicServer> <DCritic> weird huh?
23:10:28  <PublicServer> <tussengas> ah change your setting to "allow building rail even if there are no trains available"
23:10:37  <PublicServer> <tussengas> or something like that
23:11:46  <PublicServer> <DCritic> my plan uses "spooks" lol
23:11:53  <PublicServer> <tussengas> NOOOO :p
23:11:56  <PublicServer> <tussengas> not again ;)
23:13:02  <PublicServer> <tussengas> btw its the option 'interface -> "show building tools when no suitable vehicles are available"
23:13:46  <PublicServer> <DCritic> booth told me road only
23:13:57  <PublicServer> <DCritic> he's not adding trains
23:13:58  <PublicServer> <tussengas> ah
23:14:03  <PublicServer> <tussengas> didnt saw the message board
23:14:16  <PublicServer> <tussengas> i thought it was road only for the plans
23:14:22  <PublicServer> <DCritic> ok
23:14:31  <PublicServer> <tussengas> road = boring?
23:14:55  <PublicServer> <DCritic> it's different
23:15:04  <PublicServer> <DCritic> i like trains tho
23:15:14  <PublicServer> <DCritic> i feel like an ai
23:15:25  <PublicServer> <tussengas> ai?
23:15:38  <PublicServer> <tussengas> ah offc
23:16:00  <PublicServer> <DCritic> well i gtg cya
23:16:03  <PublicServer> *** DCritic has left the game (leaving)
23:16:04  <PublicServer> <tussengas> guess i need some liquer to get awake
23:16:05  <PublicServer> <tussengas> cya
23:17:35  <Kupuham> So, how hard can it be?
23:17:52  <PublicServer> <tussengas> depends on what you're doing?
23:18:05  <Kupuham> I mean, throw some straight roads
23:18:17  <Kupuham> dump cars till' it's almost jammed
23:18:29  <Kupuham> voila, we are a good company
23:18:30  <Kupuham> no?
23:18:39  <PublicServer> <tussengas> yeah, sounds like only 2 days of work
23:20:04  <DCritic> btw use transfering and station walking.. no roads
23:20:09  <DCritic> gtg again
23:20:20  <PublicServer> <tussengas> no roads?
23:20:48  <Kupuham> A road only game with no roads, o.o'
23:21:17  <Kupuham> Change company name to 'Ghost Transports' then?
23:21:22  <PublicServer> <tussengas> maybe he means, use the maximum station width to transport?
23:22:15  <Kupuham> No idea, I'm fairly newbish when it comes to TTD, long time I don't play too
23:22:38  <PublicServer> <tussengas> ah okey, well you can make an station 64 tiles width
23:23:08  <Kupuham> ok?
23:23:09  <PublicServer> <tussengas> so you can reduce the distance between 2 stations quite a bit by skipping 62 tiles of transport
23:23:56  <Kupuham> Feels a bit like cheating, no?
23:24:18  <PublicServer> <tussengas> there are reasonable objections against it yes
23:25:11  <PublicServer> <tussengas> but its often used to connect like 3 coalmines in a region of 64x64 to one railway station
23:25:12  <Kupuham> Altough I would have some other objections with trying to cover 2k+ tiles just with roads, =)
23:31:38  <PublicServer> *** Kupuham has left the game (leaving)
23:31:39  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players)
23:31:43  <PublicServer> <tussengas> :(
23:31:51  <Kupuham> oops
23:32:08  <Kupuham> had a local client, thought I closed that, guess not
23:32:15  <Kupuham> !password
23:32:15  <PublicServer> Kupuham: exhume
23:32:28  <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (enough players)
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23:35:41  <DCritic_> hi
23:35:55  <DCritic_> !players
23:35:57  <PublicServer> DCritic_: Client 32 (Orange) is Kupuham, in company 1 (Condinghead Transport)
23:35:57  <PublicServer> DCritic_: Client 30 (Orange) is tussengas, in company 1 (Condinghead Transport)
23:36:09  <DCritic_> well I'm on my iPhone
23:36:28  <DCritic_> can u vote for me?
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23:36:44  <PublicServer> <tussengas> you mean?
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23:37:04  <tussengas> ah, gone allready :(
23:41:19  <Kupuham> I think he means his plan
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23:48:26  <PeterT> !password
23:48:27  <PublicServer> PeterT: washer
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23:49:13  <PeterT> Road game...Interesting.
23:49:20  <PeterT> Have we had one of these before?
23:50:59  <PublicServer> *** Peter has joined company #1
23:52:21  <PeterT> @records
23:52:21  <Webster> #openttdcoop Records: Clients: 24 | Trains: 2000 (PSG#131) - 2500 (PZG#5) | Single cargo output: 100,367 (PSG#121) | World Pop: 2,431,794 (PSG#140) 
23:52:37  <PublicServer> <tussengas> this ain't gonna be a record one ;)
23:52:45  <PeterT> No, just looking at the wiki changes
23:52:47  <PublicServer> <tussengas> although it will be easy to top 2000 vehicles :P
23:52:58  <PeterT> saw that Kenji added a new command
23:53:01  <PublicServer> <tussengas> ah okej
23:53:13  <PublicServer> <Peter> thiswill be interesting
23:53:26  <PublicServer> <tussengas> i think we will need about 7500-10000 vehicles
23:53:36  <PublicServer> <tussengas> so i dunno what the processors will do :p
23:53:49  <PublicServer> <Peter> Hardly, there is a max truck station limit
23:53:58  <PublicServer> <tussengas> is there?
23:54:15  <PublicServer> <tussengas> (not that i think it's an problem in my plan but...
23:54:39  <PublicServer> <Peter> put "!plan tussengas"
23:55:27  <Kupuham> Is 20kk enough? Seems to be stuck at that
23:55:41  <PublicServer> <tussengas> 20kk?
23:55:51  <Kupuham> Money
23:56:04  <KenjiE20> @psgsave 111
23:56:04  <Webster> PSG 111 Archive entry; http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/PublicServer:Archive_-_Games_111_-_120#gameid_111
23:56:22  <PublicServer> <tussengas> we are making 300k pounds profit per year :p
23:56:55  <PeterT> is that new too?
23:57:03  <PublicServer> <tussengas> ?
23:57:20  <PeterT> oh, thanks KenjiE20
23:57:43  <tussengas> btw, does anyone know who choses those passwords? :)
23:58:05  <PeterT> why?
23:58:08  <PeterT> !password
23:58:09  <PublicServer> PeterT: washer
23:58:12  <tussengas> cause i think 'public server' hates me
23:58:13  <tussengas> 01:07:01 <tussengas> 01:06:29 <+tussengas> !password
23:58:14  <tussengas> 01:07:01 <tussengas> 01:06:29 <+PublicServer> tussengas: rapist
23:58:18  <PeterT> it's random
23:58:24  <PeterT> I had "rapist" before too
23:58:28  <PeterT> and I also had "abuser"
23:58:31  <PeterT> and "beater"
23:58:34  <tussengas> :p
23:58:37  <Kupuham> lol, Where's the list from?
23:58:42  <KenjiE20> 'who' lol
23:58:45  <PeterT> @logs
23:58:45  <Webster> Logs (updated hourly): http://hyru.ath.cx:60080/~kenji/ottdcoop/logs/
23:59:10  <KenjiE20> it's just a huge wordlist put together way back in the midst of time :)
23:59:19  <PeterT> lol

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