Log for #openttdcoop on 10th October 2009:
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00:12:22  <tussengas> !info
00:12:22  <PublicServer> tussengas: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Interahamwe Hutu Power'  Year Founded: 1930  Money: 6710100236  Loan: 0  Value: 6715366321  (T:497, R:1818, P:12, S:0) unprotected
00:13:35  <Kupuham> Hello
00:16:58  <tussengas> hey
00:17:01  <tussengas> !password
00:17:01  <PublicServer> tussengas: broker
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00:17:36  <Kupuham> Damn, the RV04 rebuild design is broken
00:17:57  <PublicServer> <tussengas> ?
00:18:11  <Kupuham> Take a look at it ;)
00:18:19  <PublicServer> <tussengas> well, im missing some things :p
00:18:21  <Kupuham> I'm playing offline, trying to figure out
00:18:49  <PublicServer> <tussengas> but what happened ?
00:18:51  <PublicServer> <tussengas> ]
00:19:46  <Kupuham> livestock and grain will jam
00:20:02  <Kupuham> People said Rv04's train station should be Roro
00:20:04  <PublicServer> <tussengas> ah, new truckstop area
00:20:22  <Kupuham> Yeah
00:21:19  <PublicServer> <tussengas> well, i can't disagree that the capacity of RV04 railway station was allready to low when i left yesterday
00:22:02  <PublicServer> <tussengas> but what makes L$& G different, too many rv's?
00:23:05  <Kupuham> Might be
00:23:16  <PublicServer> <tussengas> then split L and G :p
00:28:57  <Kupuham> How do I open the cheat menu again?
00:29:11  <PublicServer> <tussengas> windowsbutton + c i think
00:29:15  <PublicServer> <tussengas> or control c
00:29:17  <PublicServer> <tussengas> alt c
00:29:20  <PublicServer> <tussengas> shift c
00:29:23  <PublicServer> <tussengas> something with c :p
00:29:29  <KenjiE20> @man cheat
00:29:43  <Webster> timed out -
00:29:47  <PublicServer> <tussengas> why not just try those 3 options? :p
00:29:58  <PublicServer> <tussengas> ah
00:30:00  <PublicServer> <tussengas> thats why :p
00:32:04  <PublicServer> <tussengas> btw, i think something is not going well in upper petborough...
00:32:17  <PublicServer> <tussengas> vehicles are only taking the middle truckstop
00:33:44  <Kupuham> Is the game not paused?
00:33:48  <PublicServer> <tussengas> it is
00:33:55  <PublicServer> <tussengas> but even paused, it tells a lot :p
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00:35:17  <PublicServer> <tussengas> good, critic's  "invation city" is been removed
00:37:09  <PublicServer> <tussengas> are you gonna change things soon or can i leave?
00:38:14  <Kupuham> I think I won't figure it out soon enough
00:38:20  <PublicServer> <tussengas> okey
00:38:21  <PublicServer> <tussengas> NN
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01:15:50  <Kupuham> Ok, I give up, if anyone wants to try and figure out a way to make the new RV04 grain & livestock transfer non jamming, good luck
01:20:48  <Kupuham> !password
01:20:49  <PublicServer> Kupuham: aghast
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01:22:28  <Razaekel> !password
01:22:28  <PublicServer> Razaekel: masons
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01:23:57  <Kupuham> ello
01:23:59  <Razaekel> there
01:24:09  <Razaekel> there's really no way to make a non-jamming station
01:24:14  <Razaekel> jams result from mergers
01:24:22  <Razaekel> what 04 needs is another exit track
01:24:37  <Kupuham> No, my problem is lower level
01:24:43  <Razaekel> what?
01:24:46  <Kupuham> I'm talking about Rv's =)
01:24:52  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> oh
01:24:55  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> which?
01:25:02  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> New Truck Stop Area
01:25:24  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> what about it?
01:25:48  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Once you add the grain and livestock cars to the uppermost station, they will jam because of the double turn
01:25:55  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> fail station
01:26:17  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> that's how you do it
01:26:29  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> let me try it offline
01:26:35  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> they go in the center, come out the sides
01:27:30  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> how come you moved the RV stations?
01:28:03  <Kupuham> ?
01:28:11  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> why did you move the RV stations?
01:28:41  <Kupuham> Because people want to make the train one Roro
01:28:50  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> wouldnt help
01:29:07  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> the problem with the station is the exit
01:33:04  <Kupuham> You absolutely sure it's not going to be needed later on then?
01:33:17  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> i wouldnt say that
01:33:27  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> it's just imo, the exit is more important than a RORO
01:34:07  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> hmm
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01:34:33  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> the advantage of a RORO is capacity
01:34:56  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> since trains entering the station dont block trains exiting the station
01:35:11  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> but in this case, that's not much of an issue, it's the trains exiting that have the problem
01:35:12  <DCritic> !password
01:35:12  <PublicServer> DCritic: masons
01:35:32  <DCritic> !road
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01:37:18  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> btw, the problem is actually those double turns
01:37:29  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> not really
01:37:35  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> the issue is the merge on exit
01:37:48  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> I'm talking about the road =)
01:38:19  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> if it's done right, the trucks should alternate stations
01:38:21  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> even with the station designed like you did, it doesn't work
01:38:28  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> I mean, that part works
01:38:35  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> but from then onwards, they are jammed
01:38:40  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> really?
01:38:45  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> i redid the iron station
01:38:51  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> let's try something
01:39:24  <Kupuham> (When I say they're jammed I mean in my offline test game)
01:39:29  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> let's watch the iron trucks at the new truck stop
01:39:47  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> watching?
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01:39:59  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Yes, But i don't think that's th epoint
01:40:42  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> huh
01:40:53  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> trucks wont travel farther than 4 tiles
01:40:57  <Kupuham> How can I share a screen shot?
01:41:07  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> upload somewhere
01:41:10  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> imageshack
01:41:40  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> and remember iron trucks are take two tiles
01:42:02  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> So if one decides to wait at the first stops they block the rest
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01:47:56  <Kupuham>
01:48:43  <Razaekel> which one are you referring to
01:49:10  <Kupuham> Livestock&grain, even tough it has you design, it's jammed
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01:49:24  <Kupuham> !password
01:49:24  <PublicServer> Kupuham: cobble
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01:52:20  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> sucks that we're restricted to 16 lorry stations
01:53:20  <Kupuham> yep
01:55:49  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> this is like watching a worm
01:55:56  <PublicServer> <DCritic> guys i think we should make a separate grain and livestock drop for rv transfer 4
01:56:14  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> you mean, seperate the grain and livestock?
01:56:38  <PublicServer> <DCritic> yeah
01:56:48  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> have fun with the orders >.>
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02:00:33  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> It won't fit
02:00:44  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> WTF
02:00:50  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> lemme finish moving stations
02:00:56  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> who the hell destroyed the grain and livestock drop?
02:01:03  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> i moved it
02:01:14  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> It will jam EVERYTHING
02:01:17  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> no it wont
02:01:25  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> yes it freaking will
02:01:32  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> quit being a baby
02:01:38  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> they're shuffling along just fine
02:01:56  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> They will all try and join the tunnel and jam........
02:02:14  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Then they wil slowly move forwards, then jam at the turns
02:02:30  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> whine whine
02:02:40  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> wait for the renovations to finish
02:02:41  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> geez
02:02:51  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> geez, I've done them offline, geez, them jam
02:03:02  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> clearly you did it wrong
02:03:03  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> >.>
02:06:33  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> And farm is down 20% already
02:06:44  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> *whistles idly
02:06:49  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> so?
02:07:35  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> stuff like that happens in openttdcoop pretty often
02:07:48  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> it's all about squeezing the maximum capacity and efficiency out of things
02:16:29  <PublicServer> <DCritic> YAY
02:16:32  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> ?
02:16:33  <PublicServer> <DCritic> i fixed the jams
02:16:40  <PublicServer> <DCritic> now look
02:16:47  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> which jams?
02:16:48  <PublicServer> <DCritic> i moved them all to the L station
02:16:53  <PublicServer> <DCritic> LS
02:16:56  <PublicServer> <DCritic> i mean
02:17:14  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> LS Drop?
02:17:21  <PublicServer> <DCritic> yeah
02:17:31  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> now we just need a grain drop
02:17:34  <PublicServer> <DCritic> no
02:17:38  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> oh
02:17:41  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> RV transfer 04
02:17:44  <PublicServer> <DCritic> it can go directly to RV transfer 04
02:17:47  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> ok
02:17:51  <PublicServer> <DCritic> unless ur ocd? :p
02:17:55  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> heh
02:18:01  <PublicServer> <DCritic> we need a second LS drop though
02:18:02  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> i was gonna put them all over in the new area
02:18:11  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> but i can make it a second drop
02:18:30  <PublicServer> <DCritic> sure you know what just make a grain drop
02:18:42  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> ...
02:18:55  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> and what for the transfer to the 04?
02:19:14  <PublicServer> <DCritic> i guess leave it empty?
02:19:37  <PublicServer> <DCritic> unless you want it to go straight i guess
02:19:49  <PublicServer> <DCritic> i'll be working on adding more trains
02:19:58  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Will a roro fill in that space?
02:20:08  <PublicServer> <DCritic> idk
02:20:13  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> dunno
02:20:27  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> I would say move the grain drop already, otherwise it's pointless
02:20:40  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> fun
02:20:41  <DCritic> @wiki priority
02:20:44  <Webster> Priorities - #openttdcoop Wiki -
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02:24:04  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> there we go
02:24:13  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> now just need to modify all the orders
02:27:47  <PublicServer> <DCritic> admin!!!
02:27:57  <DCritic> @admin
02:27:58  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> train limit
02:28:00  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> lol
02:28:09  <PublicServer> <DCritic> yeah
02:28:23  <PublicServer> <DCritic> look at all the goods at factory goods pickup
02:28:47  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> i dont need to look
02:35:36  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> what was that for?
02:36:14  <PublicServer> <DCritic> i was gonna separate the trafficked road
02:36:22  <PublicServer> <DCritic> ls/gr needs to be separate
02:44:12  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> 2 turns = slower, no?
02:44:17  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> true
02:44:31  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> but how are you gonna fit a separate road for grain?
02:45:16  <Razaekel> !ping
02:45:17  <PublicServer> Razaekel: pong
02:45:22  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> If you think that's needed
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02:45:39  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> what the?
02:45:52  <Razaekel> !ping
02:45:52  <PublicServer> Razaekel: pong
02:46:12  <Razaekel> !password
02:46:13  <PublicServer> Razaekel: piddle
02:46:13  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Don't remove the tunnels
02:46:22  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Otherwise there it no point in moving there
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02:46:59  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> It will be harder to make the roro later on...
02:47:42  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> whats with the bridge?
02:48:01  <Kupuham> I dunno, he says nothing and continues doing stuff
02:48:09  <Razaekel> !players
02:48:11  <PublicServer> Razaekel: Client 156 (Orange) is Kupuham, in company 1 (Interahamwe Hutu Power)
02:48:11  <PublicServer> Razaekel: Client 158 (Orange) is Razaekel, in company 1 (Interahamwe Hutu Power)
02:48:11  <PublicServer> Razaekel: Client 148 (Orange) is DCritic, in company 1 (Interahamwe Hutu Power)
02:48:28  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> oy DC
02:48:47  <Razaekel> anybody getting big pauses?
02:48:54  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> A bit
02:48:58  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> DCritic, what ar eyou doing?
02:49:34  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> DONT DO THAT
02:49:45  <Kupuham> ...let's quit so the game pauses
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02:49:55  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> go to spectate
02:50:00  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> How?
02:50:06  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> client list
02:50:10  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> or company list
02:50:17  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> guy in top hat
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02:50:34  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> dcritic, wtf are you doing
02:50:44  <PublicServer> <DCritic> there were huge jams
02:50:48  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> you're screwing over New Fledinghall GR
02:50:57  <PublicServer> <DCritic> ? no im not
02:51:10  <PublicServer> <DCritic> i was up by Grain Drop
02:51:20  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> the grain trucks have to take a longass route now
02:51:25  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> instead of the shortcut
02:51:54  <PublicServer> <DCritic> ok.. well i'll try to fix it
02:52:09  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> and that's a hackjob anyway
02:52:17  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> as it stands, the current setup isnt that bad
02:52:21  <PublicServer> <DCritic> the jams waste much more time
02:52:30  <PublicServer> <DCritic> i saw them
02:52:35  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> how long ago?
02:52:35  <PublicServer> <DCritic> like 20 mph
02:52:39  <PublicServer> <DCritic> 2 mins
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02:52:57  <PublicServer> <DCritic> no 40moh
02:53:00  <PublicServer> <DCritic> mph
02:53:05  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> where?
02:53:06  <PublicServer> <DCritic> theyre still there
02:53:06  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> sign
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02:53:36  <PublicServer> <DCritic> it's considerably slower
02:54:04  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> that's more likely because of the hill
02:54:14  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> not because of too much stuff
02:54:26  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Yeah
02:54:28  <PublicServer> <DCritic> but look at the coal cars
02:54:37  <PublicServer> <DCritic> and the wood cars
02:54:42  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> There are less of them
02:54:46  <PublicServer> <DCritic> i know
02:54:53  <PublicServer> <DCritic> that's why
02:55:06  <PublicServer> <DCritic> so if the grain and ls are separated it would run smoother
02:55:07  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Still, even with a single climb, it jams
02:55:16  <PublicServer> <DCritic> not as much
02:55:22  <PublicServer> <DCritic> and the grain won't jam
02:55:25  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> go look at the bridgge you made
02:55:47  <PublicServer> <DCritic> i know but it will get rid of the tunnel jams
02:55:52  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> yer jamming the exit of LS drop cause they have to climb that little hill
02:56:03  <PublicServer> <DCritic> look at !!JAMS
02:56:05  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> your solution is a failure
02:56:20  <PublicServer> <DCritic> then turn it into a tunnnel
02:57:08  <PublicServer> <DCritic> hm
02:57:11  <PublicServer> <DCritic> fine
02:58:00  <PublicServer> <DCritic> but separate it somehow
02:58:05  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> i will
02:58:14  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> the game keeps freezing up
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02:59:11  <PublicServer> <DCritic> i mean you might as well merge it with wood which is the least crowdiest instead of the most crowdy one... i'll do that
02:59:15  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> no
02:59:23  <PublicServer> <DCritic> why?
02:59:43  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> im gonna make a seperate tunnel for each
02:59:47  <PublicServer> <DCritic> ok
03:00:50  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> railroad tunnel?
03:01:01  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> wrong one
03:03:06  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> I think Iron exit might end up jamming
03:04:03  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> need to fix that turn
03:04:09  <PublicServer> <DCritic> maybe
03:04:23  <PublicServer> <DCritic> you can move the grain sttion to unde the iron drop
03:05:09  <PublicServer> <DCritic> are you kidding me this lag is endless
03:05:16  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> i know
03:05:17  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Or we could simply move
03:05:24  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> the cheat one square to the side
03:05:29  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> and build a new tunnel
03:05:30  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> what cheat?
03:05:36  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> The grain one
03:05:40  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Move it to the other end
03:05:45  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> no space
03:05:47  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> allow that road to be used both ways
03:05:50  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> oh
03:05:51  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> nvm
03:05:52  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> yer right
03:06:01  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> that would be easier
03:06:02  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> lol
03:10:42  <PublicServer> <DCritic> is there a hughe screenshot tool?
03:10:53  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> question mark
03:10:57  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> giant screenshot
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03:15:01  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Shouldn't we flatten !!!This?
03:15:57  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> yea, that'd be good
03:18:09  <DCritic> !password
03:18:09  <PublicServer> DCritic: staffs
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03:22:29  <DCritic> AGH
03:22:33  <DCritic> OHZEZ WELLZEZ
03:22:40  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> what?
03:22:44  <DCritic> !password
03:22:45  <PublicServer> DCritic: sickly
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03:29:39  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> See what I meant way back?
03:30:20  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> sure
03:30:25  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> have fun fitting another road in there
03:38:02  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> what the bloody fuck
03:38:11  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> who frigg did that to the LS drop?
03:38:33  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> did what?
03:38:39  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> go look
03:38:56  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> I added the shortcut bridges, that's all
03:38:57  <PublicServer> <DCritic> me i messed up
03:39:01  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> ......
03:39:10  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> and now it's lagging like hell
03:39:21  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> All hail pfing of doom
03:41:41  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> WTF?
03:45:10  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> woot
03:45:21  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> these trucks are like Snake
03:47:19  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> ok
03:47:22  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> i think we're done
03:47:23  <PublicServer> <DCritic> ty
03:47:24  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> finally
03:47:25  <PublicServer> <DCritic> im sorry
03:47:30  <PublicServer> <DCritic> :(
03:47:32  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> nice going dude
03:47:34  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> >.<
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04:00:24  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> wow
04:00:29  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> this looks a lot better
04:00:54  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> What?
04:01:03  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> clearing up all that space
04:01:10  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> oh
04:05:01  <Kupuham> !info
04:05:01  <PublicServer> Kupuham: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Interahamwe Hutu Power'  Year Founded: 1930  Money: 7315320278  Loan: 0  Value: 7321181782  (T:499, R:1985, P:12, S:0) unprotected
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04:06:16  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> wtf happened at condinghead
04:06:49  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> They can't reach there?
04:06:59  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> they all jammed into a corner
04:08:34  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> wow
04:08:41  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> the entire area S of 04 is clean
04:09:23  <Kupuham> Force migration. It's a beautiful thing
04:09:28  <Kupuham> Forced*
04:10:45  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> now we just need more trains
04:13:23  <Kupuham> @wiki roro
04:13:25  <Webster> Search results for "roro" - #openttdcoop Wiki -
04:22:48  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> uhoh, R V 05 Jams
04:24:34  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Wow, 170 trains are not profitable
04:24:53  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> (I know, irrelevant, but still)
04:31:12  <PublicServer> <Kupuham> Oh snap
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04:38:49  <Kupuham> Max vehicles, max trains, almost 2 am, time to sleep
04:38:50  <Kupuham> Bye
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08:03:57  <smnokeil> !password
08:03:57  <PublicServer> smnokeil: satins
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08:09:33  <smnokeil> !password
08:09:33  <PublicServer> smnokeil: abouts
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08:14:26  <smnokeil> why am i always dropped from the game?
08:14:59  <smnokeil> !password
08:14:59  <PublicServer> smnokeil: abouts
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08:23:43  <PublicServer> Stoffe: richly
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09:10:05  <^Spike^> !unpause
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09:38:52  <Seberoth> hi
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10:04:59  <Mucht> hi Seberoth
10:05:20  <Seberoth> How are you?
10:05:42  <Mucht> heh fine
10:05:44  <Mucht> thx
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10:07:23  <Mucht> well, time for weekend-shopping
10:07:42  <Maza> plop
10:11:21  <tussengas> morning
10:11:54  <tussengas> !players
10:11:55  <PublicServer> tussengas: There are currently no clients connected to the server
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10:21:06  <Mark> morning
10:25:27  <Mark> !password
10:25:27  <PublicServer> Mark: furies
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10:33:58  <Mark> tneo: opinions? :P
10:34:35  <tneo> junk :P
10:35:02  <Mark> heh
10:35:05  <Mark> agreed
10:35:12  <tneo> 3rd mainline extension is hacked in not properly done
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10:36:23  <Mark> yeah, guess that has to do with the 4-ways being almost impossible to extend without practically rebuilding it
10:36:57  <PublicServer> <tneo> yeah, hubs now cover entire map from coast to coasnt
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10:39:11  <tneo> and the transfer stations are jamming because they are badly constructed terminus
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10:41:21  <tneo> too many trains as well most travel with hardly any cargo...
10:50:23  <V453000> hi
10:50:46  <V453000> !password
10:50:46  <PublicServer> V453000: lavish
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10:58:03  <Stoffe> tneo: I was the one doing the 3rd mainline extension, and yes, I'm well aware that its connections to the hubs is ugly. Didn't have time to finish that last night, as that's a rather major project... :)
10:58:36  <Stoffe> at least the capacity has increased on the track, used to jam into a nearby station before
10:59:48  <V453000> :)
11:00:50  <Stoffe> Unfortunately, I don't have time to work on it now either - I've got orders to clean the house... :/
11:02:50  <V453000> tell them Go To Depot
11:02:58  <V453000> :D
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11:38:18  <Chris_Booth> morning
11:39:03  <V453000> hik
11:39:05  <V453000> hi
11:46:47  <Chris_Booth> !password
11:46:47  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: tickle
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12:12:06  <Stoffe> Of all the odd things... I'm running XP, and the system won't detect any new USB devices. What is worse, it's lost the mouse as well... anyone have any ideas on how to re-init usb without restarting?
12:14:23  <Stoffe> I guess "restarting" should be clarified as "rebooting"
12:17:24  <V453000> my friend had the same problem when he updated to SP3 ... but dont know what was the solution
12:17:30  <V453000> I can ask him if you wat
12:17:31  <V453000> want
12:17:45  <V453000> but I think he just restarted the computer
12:18:21  <Stoffe> It's happened a few times - not enough that I really mind, and rebooting helps, so it's not a real problem, but it's annoying
12:18:34  <Stoffe> if you don't mind asking that'd be great
12:18:43  <V453000> okay
12:18:44  <V453000> I will
12:19:02  <V453000> he is not very avaiable on phone/ICQ so I will see him by this week
12:19:07  <V453000> will leave you a message
12:19:38  <Stoffe> Great, thanks
12:19:50  <V453000> w8... mby in a minute
12:20:35  <Stoffe> yeah, I'm not going anywhere - got a house to clean, just don't want to deal with rebooting (and thus loosing my music source). :D
12:23:04  <V453000> wow .... first of all he had trouble with USB 2.0 only ... when your mouse is out of order it should be also problem with 1.0 ... even so: he googled it out and found some patch for windows ... dont know where but also the patch or something like that was on the webpage of his motherboard developer
12:24:55  <Stoffe> huh, all right. Motherboard drivers it is... thank you, and thank him for me.
12:25:33  <V453000> :)
12:25:40  <V453000> youre welcome
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14:18:43  <FiCE> !playercount
14:18:43  <PublicServer> FiCE: Number of players: 0
14:20:17  <Stoffe> Hmm... time to reboot to get my mouse back... :) *sigh* stupid computer
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14:27:21  <tussengas> !password
14:27:22  <PublicServer> tussengas: wedged
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14:31:51  <Stoffe> Hi again
14:31:54  <PublicServer> <tussengas> hi
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14:45:54  <Chris_Booth> !password
14:45:54  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: loiter
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15:05:16  <Razaekel> !password
15:05:17  <PublicServer> Razaekel: flamed
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15:22:42  <Flash3JI0> !password
15:22:42  <PublicServer> Flash3JI0: creams
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15:41:09  <DCritic> !password
15:41:09  <PublicServer> DCritic: sludge
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15:51:15  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i seem to have someone following me
15:51:26  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> a stalker?
15:51:32  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yeah you?
15:51:35  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> :-P
15:51:57  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> what kind of station?
15:52:05  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> synchronized or PSB?
15:52:20  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> or something else
15:52:23  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 2 seperate stations
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15:52:31  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 12 tracks exit
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15:52:34  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and an exit mixer
15:52:41  <jonde> !password
15:52:41  <PublicServer> jonde: pluses
15:52:41  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> 6 and 6?
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15:52:54  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> or 12 per station?
15:53:17  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 4 x 6
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15:54:47  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> make them all level
15:54:54  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> as we are going to mix the exits
15:56:23  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> too bad it's not gonna be PSB :-(
15:56:29  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> 4 lane entrace PSB
15:56:33  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> :-P
15:56:56  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> PBS is jsut temp
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16:03:40  <PublicServer> <DCritic> Grr... TRUCK LIMIT
16:03:53  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> everything's capped
16:05:07  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> one problem
16:05:21  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yes
16:05:28  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> 6 tiles between turns
16:05:54  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> it shouldnt be
16:05:55  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> test it
16:06:16  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> 2 tiles on the vertical, 4 on the diagonal
16:06:32  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> cut the train to 183
16:06:54  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> yea
16:07:03  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> cuts speed from 240 to 180
16:11:07  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> your E side isnt symmetrical to the W
16:13:27  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> we need majic bulldozer to remove that farm
16:13:48  <PublicServer> <DCritic> which farm
16:17:22  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> we need to balance the entrance to the station
16:18:35  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ok i have closed the east half of the station
16:18:40  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> so we can finish exit
16:18:48  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> make that the west half
16:18:52  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> you idiot
16:19:27  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> how am i an idiot?
16:19:40  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> nvm
16:23:50  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> now for the east half
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16:28:20  <PublicServer> <DCritic> omg u jammed the whole system
16:28:43  <PublicServer> <jondisti> and now it's flowing again
16:29:00  <PublicServer> <DCritic> oh i see it now :p
16:40:11  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> that will make that spliter / mixer better
16:40:30  <Mark> !password
16:40:30  <PublicServer> Mark: fluxes
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16:40:51  <PublicServer> <Mark> 'lo
16:41:01  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hi mark
16:41:05  <PublicServer> <jondisti> 1 error there
16:41:10  <PublicServer> <Mark> wow it's moving
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16:41:42  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> how is that an error?
16:42:17  <PublicServer> <jondisti> there's not enough space for other trains to use other lane if there's 1 waiting
16:42:37  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> wont make a big difference
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16:44:24  <PublicServer> <Mark> i'd swear i was the one that first built RV04
16:44:37  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> you were
16:44:57  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but none of it is left now
16:45:03  <PublicServer> <DCritic> hahahaha
16:45:20  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> put your name back there mark
16:45:27  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i dont know who removed the sign
16:45:29  <PublicServer> <DCritic> can u please increase train/RV limit?
16:45:34  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no
16:45:49  <PublicServer> <Mark> i dant care at all, it's not like there's anything left of it
16:45:50  <PublicServer> <DCritic> why not?
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16:46:03  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> just felt liuke saying no
16:46:14  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> who keeps making Carnington bigger
16:46:21  <PublicServer> <DCritic> not me
16:46:22  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> mark can you turn town growth off please
16:46:26  <PublicServer> <Mark> Chris Booth cant increase because he cant
16:46:37  <Mark> !rcon patch town_growth_rate 0
16:46:37  <PublicServer> Mark: you are not allowed to use !rcon
16:46:39  <Mark> @op
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16:46:40  <Mark> !rcon patch town_growth_rate 0
16:46:55  <Mark> !trains 700
16:46:55  <PublicServer> *** Mark has set max_trains to 700
16:47:02  <PublicServer> <DCritic> thanks
16:47:07  <PublicServer> <Mark> not sure that's a good idea..
16:47:09  <PublicServer> <DCritic> RVs btw
16:47:11  <Mark> !trains 600
16:47:11  <PublicServer> *** Mark has set max_trains to 600
16:47:17  <PublicServer> <DCritic> RVs
16:47:22  <PublicServer> <Mark> you dont need RVs
16:47:32  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> we do
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16:47:43  <PublicServer> <Mark> all transfers need more trains first
16:47:44  <PublicServer> <DCritic> lots of unconnected industries
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16:47:56  <PublicServer> <DCritic> ok
16:47:57  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> we still need to build an RV transfer
16:48:03  <PublicServer> <Mark> lol
16:48:07  <PublicServer> <Mark> take some from RV04
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16:48:25  <PublicServer> <DCritic> so whats the train feeder?
16:48:31  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> csan you put majic bulldozer on so i can remove Carnington
16:48:34  <PublicServer> <jondisti> sc01
16:48:39  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> as some idiot keep growing it
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16:49:11  <Chris_Booth> !password
16:49:11  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: fluxes
16:49:48  <gerben> !help
16:49:49  <PublicServer> gerben:
16:49:54  <PublicServer> <DCritic> whats the train depot feeder thing
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16:50:10  <damalix> Hello there
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16:50:25  <PublicServer> <DCritic> ok i am making a train depot
16:50:26  <gerben> !revision
16:50:26  <PublicServer> gerben: Game version is r17687
16:50:39  <Chris_Booth> !download
16:50:39  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: !download autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x
16:50:49  <Chris_Booth> ^ gerben ^
16:50:57  <Chris_Booth> and ! grf
16:51:04  <Chris_Booth> !grf
16:51:04  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: (Version 7.3)
16:51:31  <gerben> !download osx
16:51:31  <PublicServer> gerben:
16:51:33  <Mark> maybe he just wanted to know the revision :P
16:51:51  <Chris_Booth> i dont know
16:51:54  <gerben> Chris_Booth: Thanks
16:51:59  <Chris_Booth> was trying to help
16:53:03  <damalix> !password
16:53:04  <PublicServer> damalix: termly
16:53:12  <PublicServer> <jondisti> aren't service centers for adding trains on ML?
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16:53:24  <PublicServer> <DCritic> but where are the service centers
16:53:30  <Chris_Booth> we have SC 01 in the middle of the map
16:53:38  <PublicServer> <jondisti> ~SC01
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16:54:15  <PublicServer> <DCritic> i dont see it
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16:54:24  <PublicServer> <DCritic> nvm
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16:56:55  <damalix> arf :/ I can't join : the map is too big for my comp :/
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17:02:38  <Cent> !svn
17:02:38  <PublicServer> Cent: svn update -r17687 && make (termly)
17:02:38  <PublicServer> Cent: svn checkout -r17687 svn:// openttdcoop && cd openttdcoop && ./configure && make
17:07:00  <Cent> hello
17:07:12  <Chris_Booth> hi Cent
17:07:34  <gerben> !password
17:07:34  <PublicServer> gerben: mingle
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17:08:04  <PublicServer> <DCritic> is there a way to make all new cloned trains share orders?
17:08:26  <PublicServer> <jondisti> hold ctrl when cloning
17:08:40  <PublicServer> <DCritic> thx
17:08:56  <PublicServer> <jondisti> when cloning train that already has shared orders
17:10:18  <Chris_Booth> !password
17:10:18  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: mingle
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17:14:07  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> oops
17:15:55  <Cent> !password
17:15:55  <PublicServer> Cent: mingle
17:16:35  <PublicServer> *** Player joined the game
17:17:55  <PublicServer> <Player> where do I change the name
17:18:09  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> press top left button on keyboard
17:18:12  <PublicServer> <DCritic> type in the tilde
17:18:15  <PublicServer> <DCritic> `
17:18:20  <PublicServer> <DCritic> `
17:18:21  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and type name "you name here"
17:18:26  <PublicServer> <DCritic> like this
17:18:27  <PublicServer> <DCritic> name
17:18:31  <PublicServer> <DCritic> name DCritic
17:18:39  <PublicServer> *** Player has changed his/her name to Cent
17:18:41  <PublicServer> *** DCritic has changed his/her name to Example
17:18:43  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i just said that
17:18:46  <PublicServer> *** Example has changed his/her name to DCritic
17:18:47  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> he Cent
17:18:53  <PublicServer> <Cent> OK thx
17:19:25  <PublicServer> <DCritic> we need a load balancer?
17:19:44  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> where?
17:20:01  <PublicServer> <DCritic> RV transfer 4
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17:20:28  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> we have one
17:20:33  <PublicServer> <DCritic> hmm
17:20:38  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> on the ML exit
17:20:38  <PublicServer> <DCritic> well theres jams
17:21:11  <PublicServer> <DCritic> it merges into one track i think thats why
17:22:55  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i think it was all the new trains
17:28:04  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> that is the correct signal gap
17:28:10  <PublicServer> <DCritic> ok
17:29:33  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> any how i am goign to make my dinner now then
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17:29:45  <Chris_Booth> keep building the trains
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18:35:11  <Chris_Booth> !password
18:35:11  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: tariff
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18:37:00  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> he tneo
18:38:26  <PublicServer> <tneo> who's making  a stupid rollercoaster?
18:38:33  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no me
18:38:35  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> where?
18:38:44  <PublicServer> <tneo> bbh01
18:39:01  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> just delete it
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18:40:07  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> can some turn on mjic buldozer please
18:40:14  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> so i can remove carnington
18:40:24  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> its in the way of the RV transfer
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18:41:54  <Chris_Booth> !password
18:41:54  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: cosmos
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18:57:51  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> big oops
19:11:48  <PublicServer> <Spike> eh.. depots @ bbh04 when like 30 tiles N is a SC?
19:11:59  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> dont ask me
19:12:07  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> loads of noobs have played this game
19:12:11  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and dont stupid things
19:12:21  <PublicServer> <Spike> reading signs is hard it seems..
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19:12:40  <PublicServer> <tneo> always has been ;)
19:12:51  <PublicServer> <Spike> creating signal gaps..
19:12:56  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> well spike you know the other day we spent 3 hours fixing all the slows
19:13:04  <PublicServer> <Spike> yesterdya you mean :)
19:13:17  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yesterday then
19:13:35  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> can one of you members please enable majic buldozer?
19:13:56  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and turn town growth off
19:14:12  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> so these noobs stop growing the towns
19:14:42  <tneo> magic dozer if i only knew how :)
19:14:45  <^Spike^> !rcon patch town_growth_rate
19:14:45  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: Current value for 'town_growth_rate' is: '0' (min: 0, max: 4)
19:15:05  <^Spike^> towns grow when you fund buildings
19:15:20  <^Spike^> !rcon magic_bulldozer
19:15:20  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: Magic bulldozer is disabled.
19:15:27  <^Spike^> bulldozer is off..
19:15:36  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> turn it on please
19:15:40  <^Spike^> !rcon magic_bulldozer 1
19:15:41  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: Saving map to magic_bulldozer_1_temp.sav
19:15:41  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: Map saved successfully, loading
19:15:46  <Chris_Booth> thanks
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19:19:04  <Chris_Booth> thanks spike
19:19:26  <Chris_Booth> my connection is being throtteled down by ISP as its peak time
19:19:30  <Chris_Booth> so i cant play ATM
19:19:37  <Chris_Booth> but i removed town
19:19:55  <Chris_Booth> and will build the final RV transfer if no one else does befor had
19:19:58  <Chris_Booth> hand
19:22:03  <^Spike^> !rcon magic_bulldozer 0
19:22:04  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: Saving map to magic_bulldozer_0_temp.sav
19:22:04  <PublicServer> ^Spike^: Map saved successfully, loading
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19:38:38  <Chris_Booth> Ammler: who looks after the users on the wiki, and how can i reset my password.
19:38:39  <Chris_Booth> as i have forgoten it
19:39:47  <Seberoth> There is a "E-Mail ne password" Bottun on the login page^^
19:41:27  <Chris_Booth> it wont email me it
19:41:36  <Chris_Booth> as it says my username doesnt exist
19:41:39  <Chris_Booth> but it does
19:41:49  <Chris_Booth> firefox knows my username and password
19:41:59  <Chris_Booth> but the website seems to think it doesnt exist
19:44:05  <Seberoth> very strange. Yes i see you on the wiki (your info page)
19:47:11  <Chris_Booth> Yeah i know
19:47:16  <Chris_Booth> i am on the wiki
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19:53:36  <Chris_Booth> Ammler: dont worry i fixed it now
19:53:49  <Chris_Booth> Its from when i asked you to change my user name
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20:22:22  <Kupuham> !info
20:22:23  <PublicServer> Kupuham: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Interahamwe Hutu Power'  Year Founded: 1930  Money: 8200969853  Loan: 0  Value: 8210560785  (T:578, R:2000, P:0, S:0) unprotected
20:22:24  <Kupuham> !players
20:22:26  <PublicServer> Kupuham: There are currently no clients connected to the server
20:22:26  <Kupuham> !password
20:22:26  <PublicServer> Kupuham: spines
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21:28:48  <Kupuham> Hello
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21:43:06  <hylje> hi
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22:45:00  <Radicalimero> !password
22:45:00  <PublicServer> Radicalimero: shrugs
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22:50:53  <Kupuham> Hi there
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23:09:04  <Kupuham> Btw guysk, we need more vehicles. I searched for long queues, haven't found any, but there are 6 stations with more then 1k primaries waiting
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