Log for #openttdcoop on 1st January 2010:
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00:07:42  <PeterT> made by.. you?
00:07:53  <PeterT> happy new year!! (21, orudge)
00:10:00  <sparr> Happy New Minute!
00:10:07  <hylje> happy new second!
00:10:13  <hylje> happy new second!
00:10:59  <sparr> Happy New Minute!
00:11:36  <sparr> the celebration of certain time periods follows a very bumpy curve
00:11:54  <pugi> happpy new year to you too :D
00:12:05  <PeterT> happy new year?
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00:12:15  <pugi> [01:06:38] <Gleeb> HAPPY SCRIPTED NEW YEARS GREETING!
00:12:18  <pugi> that is 6 minutes off
00:12:20  <pugi> bad clock
00:12:21  <sparr> a small number of people celebrate the new moon (month, ish).  the majority of people celebrate the new year.  the new decade is only slightly, if at all, more tha the new yer.  and the new century is much larger than that.
00:12:22  <hylje> happy new decade
00:12:38  <PeterT> pugi: he has to type a command, it just auto-types it for him
00:12:46  <sparr> pugi: my clock says your clock is 2 minutes off :-p
00:12:48  <hylje> and how about that whole millenium thing ten years ago?
00:12:53  <Luukland> 2010 is the Year of the Tiger
00:12:53  <pugi> but my clock is correc t,:P
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00:13:10  <Luukland> 2010 is Year 4707 in the Chinese Calendar
00:13:32  <sparr> pugi: i know, just saying :)
00:13:49  <pugi> /help /timer 1 0 /msg $chan happy new year :D
00:13:51  <sparr> hylje: i think that the millenium thing is another weak point, it was probably no larger than 1900 was or 2100 will be
00:13:52  <pugi> argh
00:14:04  <pugi> PeterT: the timer would work with /timer 0:0 1 0 /msg $chan happy new year :D
00:14:07  <pugi> i wanted to write that :D
00:14:18  <PeterT> it's ~!4.5 billion ears in the Earth calender
00:14:19  <pugi> or 0:00
00:14:39  <PeterT> oh
00:14:47  <pugi> and by the way... happy new decade :D
00:14:53  <sparr> being too lasy to ctcp version you all, what client do you use?
00:15:12  <sparr> for context on that timer command
00:15:15  <Gleeb> pugi: I was showing the old year out the back door and shouting at the neighbours.
00:15:24  <pugi> nice :D
00:15:35  <pugi> that's the way to go
00:15:45  <pugi> i hope you shot a few rockets into their house :D
00:16:40  <hylje> i was watching probably the most impressive bomb show in finland
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00:16:54  <hylje> no need to spend monies on anything but booze
00:18:54  <pugi> :D
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00:42:54  <PublicServer> V453000: Client 117 is Sietse, a spectator
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05:01:33  <PeterT> happpppyyy new year east coasters!
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08:37:57  <Ammler> good morning and happy new year to everyone :-)
08:38:01  <Ammler> should be all now
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10:31:01  <Mark> morning
10:31:08  <Mark> hayyy new year everyone :)
10:31:18  <Mark> uh happy
10:32:14  <Grayson> Too many y's over from last year? ;-)
10:32:33  <ODM> you too mark
10:34:38  <Mark> thanks :)
10:34:47  <Mark> now off to granny for home-made appelflappen
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12:21:02  <NeosaD> Buenas!!!!
12:22:15  <NeosaD> ^^
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12:53:51  <Techinica> !password
12:53:51  <PublicServer> Techinica: mucous
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13:22:19  <V453000> !password
13:22:19  <PublicServer> V453000: dimple
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13:24:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
13:24:26  <PublicServer> <Techinica> hey
13:24:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> still planning? -.-
13:24:48  <PublicServer> <Techinica> they're voting...
13:25:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> why "they" and not "we" ? :D
13:25:29  <PublicServer> <Techinica> I'm abstaining because I can't choose between two plans :P
13:25:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
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13:25:51  <PublicServer> <V453000>  I vote for pm because I want the voting to end :D
13:25:57  <PublicServer> <Techinica> pm's was one of them too..
13:26:26  <PublicServer> <Techinica> I declare pm the winner :P
13:26:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
13:26:37  * planetmaker declare myself the winner :-P
13:26:43  <[com]buster> I'm in in a moment
13:26:45  * planetmaker also wishes everyone a happy new year
13:26:48  <V453000> :D
13:26:49  <V453000> hi pm
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13:26:53  <V453000> you too
13:27:04  <[com]buster> best wishes to you all
13:27:13  * planetmaker will also leave again for the time there's still daylight and return tonight
13:27:48  <[com]buster> in other words, you're not going to be around to give out orders?
13:28:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> ¨will we need any?
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13:29:50  <planetmaker> [com]buster: for now: I won't.
13:30:05  <planetmaker> photography time here
13:30:14  <V453000> ohh
13:30:30  <planetmaker> but then my plan should be usfficiently clear.
13:30:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> pm: yes
13:30:46  <planetmaker> pax via transfer to central stations only. And voila... the rest is easy
13:31:29  <[com]buster> !password
13:31:29  <PublicServer> [com]buster: dimple
13:31:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> is a tram RV? :D
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13:32:57  <[com]buster> its under the RV column...
13:33:05  <[com]buster> you'd have to ask PM though
13:34:47  <V453000> yeah
13:34:50  <V453000> I think so
13:35:04  <PublicServer> <Combuster> The question would be
13:35:13  <PublicServer> <Combuster> can we use trams for transport
13:35:35  <PublicServer> <Combuster> there are no tramtracks in the plan as far as I can see
13:35:49  <V453000> :)
13:36:22  <V453000> Tram-only game would be quite original :D
13:37:03  <PublicServer> <Combuster> it at leasts makes station scheduling easy
13:39:31  <[com]buster> (or at least, easier)
13:40:04  <[com]buster> The problem is that PM is gone and we can't ask
13:40:50  <[com]buster> I could mess up the voting board and add a new plan...
13:41:22  <V453000> what do you mean?
13:41:36  <PublicServer> <Combuster> /plan combuster: pm's plan but trams only
13:42:27  <V453000> oh
13:42:28  <V453000> :)
13:43:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> there is a problem
13:43:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> we cant refit trains to coal for example
13:43:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> so it is solved :)
13:44:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> trams
13:44:06  <PublicServer> <Combuster> määh
13:44:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is ass
13:44:48  <PublicServer> <Combuster> trams are pax-mail-goods-food only
13:44:54  <Grayson> Seems the tram set creators never heard of coal trams...
13:45:16  <V453000> :D exactly
13:45:46  <[com]buster> in that case, little choice
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13:45:57  <Combuster> @stage Building
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13:45:59  <V453000> yes
13:46:48  <tkjacobsen> !password
13:46:48  <PublicServer> tkjacobsen: piques
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13:48:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will get the Power Station Drop, ok?
13:48:41  <PublicServer> <Combuster> not stopping you :)
13:48:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
13:49:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will have to destroy my A key :D I push it often twice to disable the tool I got  ... the problem is it opens the Rail building tools :D
13:50:16  <PublicServer> <Combuster> hehe
13:50:19  <PublicServer> <Combuster> ASR ftw
13:50:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> ASR?
13:50:32  <PublicServer> <Combuster> try it :)
13:50:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> what is that
13:50:40  <PublicServer> <Combuster> A-S-R
13:51:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> Autorail - signal - delete ... ??
13:51:37  <PublicServer> <Combuster> fastest way to fix signaling
13:52:08  <V453000> but why the A ? :)
13:52:15  <V453000> S-R would suffice
13:52:21  <PublicServer> <Combuster> A opens the rail tools from anywhere
13:52:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh
13:52:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah :D
13:52:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> sorry I am a bit degenerated ... I press the buttons automatically without knowing the effect :D
13:54:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> there isnt any key that would opent the road tools, am I right?
13:55:00  <PublicServer> <Combuster> not a single key, np
13:55:02  <PublicServer> <Combuster> *no
13:55:05  <PublicServer> <Combuster> shift-f8
13:55:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> hmm ...
13:55:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> thanks
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14:05:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> M_ is the Highway ... kinda ML, yes?
14:05:43  <PublicServer> <Combuster> M is british for motorway
14:05:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh
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14:11:10  <PublicServer> <persil> I'm building road to the food plant to coal junction
14:11:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> there is going to be yet one more junction
14:12:02  <PublicServer> <persil> ok
14:12:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will build it
14:12:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> do the food plant ;)
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14:12:40  <csuke> !password
14:12:40  <PublicServer> csuke: plumbs
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14:15:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
14:15:05  <PublicServer> <Kenji> o/
14:15:13  <PublicServer> <Kenji> nice wiki edit btw
14:15:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> you mean the psg ?
14:15:31  <PublicServer> <Kenji> yea
14:15:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> :) thanks
14:16:24  <PublicServer> <Kenji> ooh, some interesting layouts
14:16:41  <PublicServer> <Kenji> I like combusters
14:16:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> wow :)
14:17:03  <PublicServer> <Kenji> dunno if it'll work like it's meant to
14:17:09  <PublicServer> <Kenji> but be nice if it did :)
14:17:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> you mean the penalty
14:17:20  <PublicServer> <Kenji> mhm
14:17:31  <PublicServer> <Combuster> It's an experiment for me as well
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14:17:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
14:18:04  <PublicServer> <Combuster> erm
14:18:19  <PublicServer> <Kenji> lol
14:18:20  <PublicServer> <Combuster> got the directions wrong
14:18:21  <PublicServer> <Combuster> dammit
14:18:26  <PublicServer> <Kenji> yea, I just spotted that too
14:18:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
14:18:37  <PublicServer> <Kenji> these damn euros
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14:20:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> nice :D
14:20:22  <PublicServer> <Kenji> ah, that's why income dropped
14:20:24  <PublicServer> <Kenji> we lost a jet
14:20:30  <pryot> !password
14:20:30  <PublicServer> pryot: convoy
14:20:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> :o
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14:20:42  <PublicServer> <Kenji> replaced
14:21:08  <Mks> what plan won btw?
14:21:11  <Mks> the RV only?
14:21:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> pm
14:21:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
14:21:21  <Mks> ahh
14:21:25  <Mks> mm thats no fun :P
14:21:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is
14:21:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> well ... it is at least interesting
14:21:46  <PublicServer> <Kenji> there we go, sign for plan
14:21:48  <Mks> well some RVs can be fun
14:22:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> hey that is no SLH
14:23:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> anyways ... we should start deciding how to name the junctions :D
14:23:23  <PublicServer> <Kenji> SLH is fine, since we know what's meant
14:23:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> but that is not a SL
14:23:34  <PublicServer> <Kenji> but yea, that's a BBH
14:23:48  <PublicServer> <Kenji> SLH roads should be A roads :)
14:23:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
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14:24:05  <PublicServer> <Kenji> lol at new orad
14:24:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> wtf
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14:24:07  <PublicServer> <Kenji> road*
14:24:18  <PublicServer> <Kenji> he's right though
14:24:27  <PublicServer> <Combuster> that'd be me :/
14:24:30  <PublicServer> <Kenji> only one tile out
14:24:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> bwaa
14:24:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> so? :)
14:24:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> do you want it that way?
14:25:09  <PublicServer> <persil> why not
14:25:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> quite hilly
14:25:29  <PublicServer> <Kenji> well plan says they are two seperate junctions
14:25:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> they will slow much
14:25:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok
14:25:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
14:25:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> WIP
14:26:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> ???
14:26:02  <PublicServer> <Kenji> food
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14:26:09  <KenjiE20> look at plan layou
14:26:11  <KenjiE20> +t
14:26:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes it shows it should be as I did it
14:27:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> but IMO it does not matter even a bit
14:28:05  <PublicServer> <Combuster> autoroad tool doesn't really work handy
14:28:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> it does
14:28:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> who does the stuff with me?
14:30:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> rail?
14:30:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> to roads?
14:30:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> wtf?
14:30:47  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Xs stink
14:30:55  <PublicServer> <Combuster> no joins before split
14:31:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> I am doing that
14:31:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> whatever
14:35:23  *** Ammler changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #171 (r18669) | STAGE: Building | | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: | Coopetition ladder: | IS2/FIRS game at"
14:36:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah thx
14:37:33  <KenjiE20> can we drop the non-running is2/firs and ladder stuff from the topic Ammler ?
14:39:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> thx
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14:41:13  <V453000> !password
14:41:13  <PublicServer> V453000: swifts
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14:45:11  <PublicServer> <Combuster> a transmitter is messing up the highway location :(
14:45:22  <PublicServer> <csuke> tunnel
14:48:30  <Ammler> KenjiE20: why you ask me?
14:48:35  <Ammler> @topic remove -1
14:48:35  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #171 (r18669) | STAGE: Building | | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: | Coopetition ladder:"
14:49:20  <KenjiE20> I don't like doing stuff like that without checking first
14:49:51  <Ammler> hmm, well, no server is running, so that should prove it.
14:50:20  <Ammler> and with #jonty there is a server
14:50:33  <Ammler> so no need to start one, I would say.
14:59:24  <valhallasw> !version
14:59:24  <PublicServer> valhallasw: Autopilot AP+ 3.0 Beta (r740)
14:59:31  <valhallasw> oh
14:59:36  * valhallasw should learn how to read
14:59:52  <KenjiE20> heh
15:00:07  <valhallasw> !download win32
15:00:07  <PublicServer> valhallasw:
15:01:31  <PublicServer> <Kenji> hmm, shouldn't the M2 become the A1 into Fadworth?
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15:01:54  <PublicServer> <csuke> A1 (M)
15:02:16  <PublicServer> <Kenji> or that
15:02:58  <PublicServer> <csuke> shouldn't the M2/M1 be  the M25?
15:03:05  <PublicServer> <Combuster> :)
15:03:07  <PublicServer> <Combuster> maybe
15:03:18  <PublicServer> <Kenji> only if you want all our trucks to stop
15:03:36  <V453000> !password
15:03:37  <PublicServer> V453000: psalms
15:03:48  <PublicServer> <csuke> lol
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15:03:59  <PublicServer> <csuke> nah that would be the M20
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15:04:06  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> hello folks
15:04:11  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Hi PM
15:04:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
15:04:15  <PublicServer> <csuke> lo
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15:05:42  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> I guess I'll build at Fort Grindhead
15:06:12  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> though I expect to need more space than I have ;-)
15:06:28  <PublicServer> <Combuster> yea
15:06:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> orly?
15:06:31  <PublicServer> <Kenji> there's a flat area to the west
15:06:35  <PublicServer> <Combuster> the junction isn't really in the optimal location
15:06:39  <PublicServer> <valhallasw> wait. an RV game? :D
15:06:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> walhallasw: ye
15:07:33  <PublicServer> * Combuster thinks its time for lunch
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15:07:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> whats the time?
15:08:00  <PublicServer> <Combuster> 4pm here
15:08:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh :D
15:08:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> here too
15:08:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is almost dinner :p
15:08:30  <PublicServer> <Combuster> was slightly late this morning
15:08:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> who wasnt :)
15:08:41  <PublicServer> <Combuster> (I blame  new years eve)
15:08:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> of course :)
15:09:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> hey we got no industries :D
15:09:44  <PublicServer> <Kenji> pfft
15:14:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> the town bus stops will be just one station? not transfer unload and transfer load?
15:15:20  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> bus stops in towns transfer to the ICE terminal
15:15:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok ...
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15:15:57  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> they may be larger than 1, if needed
15:16:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> omg now I realize what was I asking about :D how could they be two different when it is transfered to the one :D omg
15:17:52  <jondisti> !password
15:17:52  <PublicServer> jondisti: deafer
15:18:09  <PublicServer> <Kenji> cool, my timetable tweak to MM has bumped rating and profit
15:18:20  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> :-)
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15:19:35  <PublicServer> <Kenji> I put spaces in front of Town terminus names
15:20:34  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> good idea
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15:20:52  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> wherever that q came from...
15:21:05  <PublicServer> <Kenji> heh
15:21:22  <PublicServer> <persil> what means the "!needs 2nd half" sign ?
15:21:35  <PublicServer> <Kenji> it's food, needs a drop and a pickup
15:21:42  <PublicServer> <persil> ok
15:21:53  <PublicServer> <persil> thx
15:22:01  <PublicServer> <Kenji> probably more bays too, but we'll see
15:22:16  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> make it such that it can be extended :-)
15:22:49  <PeterT> !revision
15:22:49  <PublicServer> PeterT: Game version is r18669
15:23:23  <PublicServer> <Kenji> also, FPP could be the otherside of the airport for all we care, so don't worry about apce
15:23:25  <PublicServer> <Kenji> space*
15:23:32  <PeterT> !password
15:23:32  <PublicServer> PeterT: deafer
15:23:39  <PublicServer> <Kenji> buses :)
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15:23:55  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> btw: it's inefficient design to make road stops accessible only from one side :-)
15:24:16  <PublicServer> <Kenji> pm; that depends on layout
15:24:29  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> Kenji: no. the other lane will remain unused then
15:24:46  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> you then waste half the space
15:25:06  <PublicServer> <Kenji> depends how it's hooked up, if you're only expecting from one dir...
15:25:27  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> yes. My whole point. Then make it such that vehicles CAN access it from both
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15:26:07  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> it's otherwise IMO like making a terminus where you could make a roro rail station
15:26:11  <PublicServer> <Kenji> pm, can I suggest the Prime Firewood Coaches for intercity
15:26:31  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> why not Ironwood?
15:26:41  <PublicServer> <Kenji> speed mainly
15:26:46  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> ok
15:26:59  <PublicServer> <Kenji> iirc there's the polynike's later on which are 80 + 60 cap
15:27:13  <PublicServer> <Kenji> 80mph
15:27:28  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> tsk. mph :-P
15:28:13  <PublicServer> <Kenji> whoops :P
15:28:21  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> uhm.... Kenji local I disagree
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15:28:58  <KenjiE20> "Prime Firewood Coaches for intercity"
15:29:07  <hylje> Ironwood Branch
15:29:12  <PublicServer> <Kenji> double deck is fine for local
15:29:21  <hylje> "Carrying one of these assures a Good Game"
15:29:31  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> yes, but someone was messing with the busses I just bought ;-)
15:29:38  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> I assumed it was you ;-)
15:29:52  <PublicServer> <Kenji> I let the firewood out by accident, but re-depoted
15:30:31  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> there they go ;-)
15:30:45  <V453000> !password
15:30:45  <PublicServer> V453000: deafer
15:31:04  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> holy shit! the PAX count!
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15:31:19  <PublicServer> <Kenji> O.O
15:31:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
15:32:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> can I complete the SLH01 into a SL for coal?
15:32:06  <PublicServer> <Kenji> yup
15:32:13  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> why not? sure
15:32:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> ;)
15:33:38  <PublicServer> <Kenji> you're gonna need more buses
15:35:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> max speed or capacity for coal?
15:35:31  <PublicServer> <Kenji> compromise
15:36:05  <PublicServer> <Kenji> mettler ultra probably decent
15:36:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah I agree
15:36:43  <PublicServer> <Kenji> eGRVTS is quite well balanced like that
15:36:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
15:36:53  <PublicServer> <Kenji> pain for us though :P
15:37:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> the Kilimanjaro from the HEQS is brutality itself :D
15:37:56  <PublicServer> <Kenji> typical, you wait half a year and six buses turn up together
15:37:58  <PublicServer> <Kenji> :P
15:38:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> hate that
15:38:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> I often solve it by one constant flow of buses :D
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15:38:50  <planetmaker> :-O
15:38:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> :i
15:38:59  <planetmaker> crash :S
15:39:43  <PeterT> it crashed?
15:39:52  <PeterT> like, crash.dmp, crash.log crash?
15:40:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> when at the problems ... yesterday I played with the newest FIRS and the secondaries were strange ... producing only something
15:40:43  <PublicServer> <persil> we may kill our bus "ring" MM thaht steal PAX at Fadworth ?
15:41:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
15:41:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> imo
15:41:21  <PublicServer> <Kenji> switch them onto local transfers
15:41:37  <planetmaker> yes, like that.
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15:42:07  <TD> !dl
15:42:07  <PublicServer> TD: !dl autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x
15:43:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> wouldnt it be better to make two bus groups where ones load at FGC, others load at Fadworth ... now they just stay in Fadworth as there is nothing to load
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15:43:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> :o
15:43:36  <planetmaker> ok. reproducable. And new
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15:47:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> the eGRVTS is insane in the thing that you get new cars even at about ... 2060? later? insane. :D
15:47:32  <TD> !PASSWORD
15:47:38  <TD> !password
15:47:39  <PublicServer> TD: deport
15:47:42  <PeterT> !tell TD !password
15:47:42  <PublicServer> TD: deport
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15:48:42  <PublicServer> <Torben Paw> hi
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15:55:01  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> 15 ICE busses bought :-O
15:55:24  <PublicServer> <Kenji> I might be wrong about speed > cap on the ICE
15:55:34  <PublicServer> <Kenji> but dunno since last year's profits were a bit odd
15:55:57  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> a MM was scrapped
15:56:01  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> so it's less
15:56:19  <PublicServer> <Kenji> I'm looking at the vehicle list for the ICE shared orders
15:56:40  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> what about them?
15:56:59  <PublicServer> <Kenji> double deck had 10k against 6k, but PAX numbers were uneven
15:57:08  <PublicServer> <Kenji> this year should show
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15:59:11  <PublicServer> <Kenji> okay, this year wont show either
15:59:23  <PublicServer> <Kenji> It would help if Fadworth accepted PAX
15:59:47  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> :-O
15:59:59  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> but it does?
15:59:59  <PublicServer> <Kenji> I think you killed the old anchor
16:00:05  <PublicServer> <Kenji> I just rebuilt it
16:00:24  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> Yes, I killed all MM
16:00:41  <PublicServer> <Kenji> I think it was the rail station you removed eralier
16:00:44  <PublicServer> <Kenji> earlier*
16:00:45  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> and you're right. I must have killed the acceptance tile, too
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16:06:10  <PublicServer> <Kenji> yea, I think cap wins out over ICE
16:06:31  <PublicServer> <Kenji> it makes about double per run, even if it does less runs per year
16:06:50  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> well... good that there's a replacement function ;-)
16:07:12  <PublicServer> <Kenji> back to Ironwood they go
16:07:41  <PublicServer> <Kenji> oh well, at least we know now
16:07:49  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> yes, which is good :-)
16:08:13  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> btw, I spent a bit money on long viaducts on the highway ;-)
16:08:21  <PublicServer> <Kenji> I saw
16:08:26  <PublicServer> <Kenji> I switched one as well
16:09:05  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> that's really cute that it works as opposed to trains :-)
16:10:22  <PublicServer> <Kenji> all double deck
16:10:47  <PublicServer> * Kenji wonders if that works for cargo too
16:11:29  <planetmaker> !rcon set raw_industry_construction 1
16:11:42  <PublicServer> <Kenji> suppose it depends on industry output
16:11:51  <planetmaker> !rcon set raw_industry_construction 2
16:11:53  <PublicServer> <Kenji> if it's low, faster with less might be better
16:12:14  <PublicServer> <Kenji> if it's high, slower with more is probably better
16:12:57  <PublicServer> <Kenji> hmmmmm
16:13:08  <PublicServer> <Kenji> who spent 2mil?
16:13:11  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> hm. I spent a few million on farms, but non showed :-(
16:13:12  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> I did
16:13:22  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> we have no farm
16:13:23  <PublicServer> <Kenji> ah
16:13:47  <PublicServer> <Kenji> do it maunally
16:13:54  <planetmaker> !rcon set raw_industry_construction 1
16:14:07  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> then it costs 11 million :-)
16:14:25  <PublicServer> <Kenji> ew
16:14:28  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> of the 14 we have
16:14:41  <V453000> !password
16:14:41  <PublicServer> V453000: spited
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16:15:09  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> should we go for it despite?
16:15:53  <PublicServer> <Kenji> I think build up a bigger buffer first
16:16:05  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> well. But towns won't grow w/o
16:16:54  <PublicServer> <Kenji> hmm, I'll flatten some land nearer the FPP
16:16:59  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> we make an annual profit of 1.3 million
16:17:05  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> why near FPP?
16:17:19  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> that's the worst place for a farm ;-)
16:17:27  <PublicServer> <Kenji> nearER
16:17:45  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> I think I see :-)
16:17:54  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> I'll try to prosepect again
16:18:02  <PublicServer> <Kenji> fund in that basin
16:18:13  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> yes, see that
16:18:47  <PublicServer> * Kenji crosses everything
16:19:00  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> unsuitable place
16:19:15  <PublicServer> <Kenji> oh phooey
16:19:47  <PublicServer> <Kenji> ideas?
16:20:09  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> not really. Tried many different places now, too
16:20:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> hmmm ... WTF
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16:20:58  <PublicServer> <Kenji> buggers
16:21:04  <PublicServer> <Kenji> snowline2 is too low :(
16:21:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
16:21:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is
16:21:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> no farm on sea-level either
16:22:32  <PublicServer> <Kenji> I have an idea
16:22:41  <PublicServer> <Kenji> It's REALLY REALLY hacky, but it'd work
16:23:05  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> go for it, but don't destroy too much landscape :-)
16:23:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> use a cheat "summon grain in the station" ? :D
16:23:07  <PublicServer> <Kenji> when I say REALLY, I mean like, possible MP breaking later on Really
16:23:10  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> it's minimal after all ;-)
16:23:30  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> then please share this idea, Kenji:-)
16:23:32  <KenjiE20> PM; the idea is I save game, and cheat landscapes
16:23:41  <KenjiE20> fund a couple farms, cheat back
16:23:44  <KenjiE20> save, load
16:23:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh
16:23:50  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> well
16:23:54  <KenjiE20> it works
16:23:58  <KenjiE20> but it may break stuff
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16:24:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> I guess it is the only option
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16:25:02  <KenjiE20> farms produce the same in temp and subarctic so there should be an issue
16:25:10  <KenjiE20> but... it might brk
16:25:13  <KenjiE20> bork*
16:25:27  <planetmaker> uhm... climate cheat? No, rather load it in SE
16:26:20  <KenjiE20> doesn't work
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16:26:27  <KenjiE20> I just tried it
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16:28:05  <planetmaker> yes, indeed :-(
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16:28:43  <PublicServer> <Kenji> FGC is out of PAX
16:29:10  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> good :-)
16:29:36  <PublicServer> <Kenji> yes but FAD has 1600+
16:29:42  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> bad :-)
16:29:54  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> soo... no full load for ICE?
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16:31:55  <V453000> what about two groups of buses?
16:32:02  <V453000> each having one full load in the orders
16:32:06  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> I just gave them 5 days load orders
16:32:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> also nice
16:32:55  <PublicServer> <persil> i suspect a bug in FGC sbahn  order
16:32:57  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> we'll have to see
16:33:19  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> hm in what way, persil?
16:33:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is ok
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16:33:54  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> a bit queuy on DownTown station, though ;-)
16:33:57  <PublicServer> <persil> 6: full load ; then 1: load ?
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16:34:05  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> yes. Intended
16:34:10  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> look at the orders
16:34:13  <PublicServer> <persil> oh sorry...
16:34:30  <PublicServer> <persil> i missed the first line... damn small window
16:34:39  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> last one may full load, the others not
16:35:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> even though I would personally make the 6: just non-full load and 7: cond jump to the start of the cycle but whatever
16:35:19  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> also an option. Or just drop it, even w/o full load.
16:35:22  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> Might be better+
16:35:32  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> let's test
16:35:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> depends on situation
16:35:36  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> yes
16:35:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> now it might be ok to drop it as there is low cargo yet
16:36:21  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Who makes these RVs
16:36:28  <PublicServer> <Combuster> the speed limit is 77mph...
16:36:38  <PublicServer> <Combuster> not 77 km/h
16:36:47  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> 120 km/h
16:37:03  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> sounds ok. or 115
16:40:27  <PublicServer> <Combuster> MM cleaned up
16:41:29  <PublicServer> * Kenji is running turbo test on farms built with climate cheat
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16:44:32  <PublicServer> <Kenji> who's buildin the paper mill?
16:44:41  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> me
16:44:45  <PublicServer> <Kenji> ah
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16:45:04  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> kinda like "we need the money" and it's secondary objective
16:45:07  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> we have much wood
16:45:11  <PublicServer> <Kenji> Id've built further north personally
16:45:14  <PublicServer> <Kenji> but meh
16:45:29  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> there was one ;-)
16:45:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will SL the forests by the time you make the paper mill
16:46:04  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> by now? :-D
16:46:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> -.-
16:46:16  <PublicServer> <Kenji> lol
16:46:28  <PublicServer> <Kenji> farms seem to stay alive so far
16:46:47  <PublicServer> <Kenji> I'll run it for a while yet, to be sure
16:47:36  <PeterT> did you guys figure out why the farm was failing before?
16:48:07  <PublicServer> <Kenji> snow line
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16:48:35  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> Hm, Kenji?
16:48:37  <PublicServer> <Kenji> they max out at ~80tons/mnth, but they are workin
16:48:41  <PeterT> oh
16:48:51  <PublicServer> <Kenji> at least for now
16:49:01  <PublicServer> <Kenji> games not much further on atm
16:49:12  <V453000> :|
16:49:21  <V453000> !password
16:49:21  <PublicServer> V453000: hearty
16:49:21  <PublicServer> * Kenji stops road traffic
16:49:25  <PublicServer> <Kenji> there faster turbo
16:49:36  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> Paper mill done
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16:50:33  * KenjiE20 gives turbo more cpu
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16:54:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh I already built a SLH for the forests :D
16:54:31  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> :-D
16:54:38  <PublicServer> <persil> :)
16:55:56  <PublicServer> <Sam> hello
16:55:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
16:55:59  <PublicServer> <Sam> may i join ?
16:56:06  <KenjiE20> you have joined
16:56:13  <PublicServer> <Sam> in the company ;)
16:56:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure
16:56:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> welcome
16:56:44  <PublicServer> <Sam> great :)
16:56:47  <PublicServer> <Sam> thanks
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16:57:33  <PublicServer> <Sam> i play ottd since years, i'm interested in coop
16:57:44  <PublicServer> <Sam> tell me what to do ;)
16:57:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> then you will play it for another years :D
16:58:00  <KenjiE20> @quickstart
16:58:01  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki -
16:58:10  <PublicServer> <Sam> yep already read all the website
16:58:14  <PublicServer> <Sam> ;)
16:58:15  <Zuu> !password
16:58:15  <PublicServer> Zuu: hearty
16:58:15  <KenjiE20> ALL?
16:58:17  <KenjiE20> wow
16:58:19  <PublicServer> <Sam> almost
16:58:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
16:58:25  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> hehe
16:58:26  <KenjiE20> read that page again
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16:58:29  <KenjiE20> there's a link
16:58:57  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> we currently connect the industries
16:59:16  <KenjiE20> 2017 all 4 farms still alive
16:59:26  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> well, if serviced, yes
16:59:27  <PublicServer> <Techinica> lol theres 4 farms?
16:59:32  <KenjiE20> only one serviced
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16:59:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> kenji tests on his own
16:59:45  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> I'm pretty sure there had been a farm initially. Or do I err?
16:59:51  <KenjiE20> it's currently outputting at about 110ton/mth
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17:00:07  <PublicServer> <Techinica> there aren't any farms on the map
17:00:26  <KenjiE20> no, since SE wouldn't pop any remember
17:00:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> Techinica: yeah that is because of the low snow line ... Kenji is trying to cheat it out offline
17:00:39  <PublicServer> <Techinica> ah
17:00:54  <KenjiE20> not trying, bug testing :)
17:01:00  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> hm... Kenji: try to load my variable snowline newgrf.
17:01:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> whatever  :D
17:01:04  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> and build one in summer
17:01:06  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> does that work?
17:01:15  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> just for a change :-)
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17:01:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> interesting idea
17:01:23  * KenjiE20 pauses
17:01:24  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> Oh, a road game :-)
17:01:31  * KenjiE20 launches new instatnce
17:01:33  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> yup. It needs testing ;-)
17:01:44  <KenjiE20> bananas?
17:01:48  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> yes
17:01:53  <PublicServer> <Techinica> perhaps we'll have to just put a refinery at the food drop instead
17:02:03  <KenjiE20> food is needed
17:02:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> we need food for cities
17:02:09  <PublicServer> <Techinica> atleast then we'll be producing goods
17:02:23  <PublicServer> <Techinica> The original requirements only mention goods
17:02:23  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> uhm.... But the plan has no oil, Techinica:-)
17:02:24  <PublicServer> <Techinica> not food
17:02:37  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> rather have a printing press which accepts paper.
17:02:40  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> That's in the plan
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17:02:57  <PublicServer> <planetm4kerq> hm... my q again
17:03:00  <PublicServer> <Techinica> indeed, your plan doesn't include oil, but the scenario included goods.
17:03:02  <KenjiE20> PM; works a champ
17:03:02  <pugi> o.o
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17:03:16  <KenjiE20> wood > oil
17:03:20  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> Kenji then I propose that way ;-)
17:03:27  <KenjiE20> there's more wood in sub-arctic
17:03:29  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> Makes it also look better ;-)
17:03:34  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> uh?
17:03:45  <KenjiE20> not quite
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17:03:51  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> what do you mean with "no more wood"?
17:03:51  <KenjiE20> the snow lines still stuck
17:04:08  <KenjiE20> "there's more wood"
17:04:12  <KenjiE20> l2read :P
17:04:13  <V453000> !password
17:04:13  <PublicServer> V453000: bummer
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17:04:32  <V453000> left to learn? :D
17:04:43  <KenjiE20> shh
17:05:15  <KenjiE20> <-- planetmaker
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17:05:42  <PublicServer> <Sam> ok i'm ready to build ;)
17:05:49  <PublicServer> <Sam> need oil pick ?
17:05:50  <KenjiE20> however I suggest using it once, populating farms, and unloading it
17:06:01  <PublicServer> <persil> nope
17:06:06  <planetmaker> Why, KenjiE20 ?
17:06:13  <planetmaker> Varying snow line looks cool :-)
17:06:17  <PublicServer> <persil> wood then form
17:06:22  <PublicServer> <persil> farm
17:06:26  <KenjiE20> have you seen the link?
17:06:41  <V453000> :D
17:06:45  <PublicServer> <Sam> quickstart ?
17:06:47  <Zuu> Is there any reason why you can't make one turn at SLH02?
17:06:55  <KenjiE20> Sam; that was at PM
17:07:19  <V453000> my wifi is trying to be funny today :D
17:07:27  <planetmaker> uhm... with default parameters, KenjiE20 ?
17:07:30  <Sam1> uh sorry ? PM ?
17:07:35  <planetmaker> hmpf
17:07:38  <KenjiE20> yes
17:08:25  <KenjiE20> personally IMO it'd be easier and less confusing to save -> SP -> load grf -> fund -> unload -> load save on PS
17:08:30  <Sam1> sorry i do not understand
17:08:37  <KenjiE20> PM = planetmaker
17:08:48  <V453000> I agree Kenji
17:08:53  <Sam1> ah ok ;)
17:09:03  <KenjiE20> pm, that sound like a plan?
17:09:22  <planetmaker> I don't see how you get that error or glitch
17:09:47  <KenjiE20> load -> add grf -> apply -> watch snow line stick
17:09:49  <PublicServer> <persil> sam: did you read "network plan" ?
17:10:00  <PublicServer> <Sam> yep
17:10:13  <PublicServer> <Sam> pm's plan
17:10:40  <V453000> !password
17:10:40  <PublicServer> V453000: bummer
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17:10:52  <KenjiE20> pm; also the idea was to have low snow line since it's a 'festive'/'seasonal' map
17:10:53  <KenjiE20> :P
17:10:54  <planetmaker> KenjiE20: I don't have that problem
17:11:02  <KenjiE20> r18669?
17:11:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> :DDD festive seasonal :D
17:11:16  <planetmaker> yes
17:11:17  <KenjiE20> and windows_base
17:11:31  <PublicServer> <persil> sam: i believe we'are waiting to be able to found new farm and wood
17:11:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> farm is the problem
17:11:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> wood is ok
17:11:57  <planetmaker> KenjiE20: try parameters 1 4
17:11:59  <PublicServer> <Sam> ok
17:12:19  <PublicServer> <Techinica> lol @ bus convoy
17:12:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> omfg
17:12:47  <KenjiE20> pm; that got it, but I still have a warning next to it
17:12:47  <PublicServer> <Sam> you will fund new forests too ?
17:12:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> trains ftw
17:12:51  <PublicServer> <persil> lol : but last one is empty...
17:12:57  <planetmaker> a warning?
17:12:59  <PublicServer> <Techinica> that thing is a train :P
17:13:01  <KenjiE20> Sam1: no funding atm
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17:13:12  <KenjiE20> we're not that well up for cash
17:13:22  <planetmaker> hm... didn't remove my debug info message?
17:13:41  <planetmaker> what warning does it issue?
17:13:44  <KenjiE20> dunno, no explanations, just the ! in red triangle road sign
17:13:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> :/
17:14:00  <planetmaker> yes. The warning is printed in the newgrf display then when you click it. First line
17:14:22  <KenjiE20> I know, I have
17:14:37  <KenjiE20> path to grf: Temp=16
17:14:45  <KenjiE20> that's it
17:15:38  <planetmaker> Right. That's a notice. A debug notice I forgot to remove
17:15:54  <planetmaker> I think it's min snow line
17:16:00  <planetmaker> times 8
17:16:28  <planetmaker> well... you could use it to use any snow line variation you like. Parameters are min and max respectively
17:17:00  <KenjiE20> could we load it and set parms on the fly via rcon?
17:17:10  <planetmaker> it would be good to allow building farms also in the future....
17:17:15  <KenjiE20> and fix it at snowline 2?
17:17:19  <planetmaker> We cannot set params via rcon. That's like changing newgrf
17:17:40  <planetmaker> I'd propose 2 and 4 :-)
17:17:48  <planetmaker> or maybe 1 and 4
17:17:59  <planetmaker> then it's pretty snowy and in summer farms can be built
17:18:08  <KenjiE20> I'd prefer it fixed, and with that debug flag you're gonna get questions constantly
17:18:34  <planetmaker> why fixed?
17:18:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> people dont watch the newgrf so much imo
17:18:58  <KenjiE20> cause that was the idea, fixed low snow
17:19:38  <planetmaker> make it variable low snow. Like low in winter (as before, even lower) and higher in summer
17:20:08  <planetmaker> now it's like 2? 1?
17:20:20  <KenjiE20> 2 is min SE lets you set
17:20:32  <planetmaker> we could go for 0 or 1 as lowest and for 3 or for as highest. Then you have more snow even
17:20:40  <planetmaker> 2 is in the settings. But not via newgrf
17:20:53  <planetmaker> :-) I know as I wrote it ;-)
17:21:06  <planetmaker> but it looks a bit funny at the shore
17:21:10  <KenjiE20> how 'bout we fix farms, and we can play silly buggers with it next game? :P
17:21:11  <planetmaker> those tiles cannot get snow
17:21:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> wouldnt it crash with 0 as there is no sprite for coast with snow?
17:21:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
17:21:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
17:21:31  <planetmaker> it doesn't crash
17:21:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> just looks bad
17:21:47  <planetmaker> ah... well. whatever... I'd find it nice.
17:21:55  <KenjiE20> I didn't say it wasn't nice
17:22:03  <KenjiE20> just it wasn't the idea on this map
17:22:12  <planetmaker> you want more snow albeit make it higher and thus have less snow
17:22:33  <planetmaker> All I propose is to have it varying, thus allowing you more snow.
17:22:55  <KenjiE20> no, all I want is the same snow and working farms :P
17:22:57  <planetmaker> so that farms can be built just in May...Aug
17:23:12  <planetmaker> KenjiE20: but it's no option to build farms offline and then no further farms IMO
17:23:24  <planetmaker> so you have to set a higher one where further farms can be built ingame
17:23:33  <planetmaker> and that collides with your snow intentions
17:23:34  <KenjiE20> there's only about 6 spots for farms anyway
17:24:25  <planetmaker> And this newgrf offers you both. And I don't understand why you don't see that ;-)
17:25:03  <KenjiE20> cause I didn't want a moving snow line On This Map
17:25:21  <planetmaker> ah, now it's a moving snow line, not a low snow line :S
17:25:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> I am starting to get lost in your dialogue :D
17:25:56  <KenjiE20> you're not the only one V
17:26:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
17:26:21  * KenjiE20 wonders how many way's I've mentioned static snow
17:26:44  <planetmaker> you mentioned _low_ snow
17:26:56  <planetmaker> and that bites the farm requirement
17:27:09  <planetmaker> I just want farms and low snow
17:27:22  <planetmaker> and I made the newgrf to allow that. And you don't want that :-(
17:27:45  <KenjiE20> I said low once
17:27:47  <KenjiE20> then 17:18:36     @KenjiE20 | and fix it at snowline 2?
17:27:56  <KenjiE20> and continued in that way
17:28:12  <KenjiE20> 17:19:30     @KenjiE20 | I'd prefer it fixed
17:28:18  <KenjiE20> 17:20:20     @KenjiE20 | cause that was the idea, fixed low snow
17:28:21  <KenjiE20> etc.
17:28:26  <planetmaker> [18:18]	<KenjiE20>	cause that was the idea, fixed low snow
17:28:41  <planetmaker> so, yes. That doesn't work.
17:28:44  <KenjiE20> fixed ie. not moving
17:28:45  <planetmaker> So high snow line
17:28:56  <planetmaker> ah bugger. Do what you like
17:29:00  <KenjiE20> pedantics! arg!
17:29:10  <V453000> :D
17:29:14  <V453000> :D
17:29:19  <planetmaker> And enjoy the map :S
17:29:44  <planetmaker> All I wanted was my newgrf seen working in a real game. Obviously... too bad
17:29:57  <KenjiE20> pm; I never said I didn't like the variable one, on the contrary, I like it, it just wasn't in the plan for this map
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17:30:20  <planetmaker> but it doesn't hurt it.
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17:30:45  <planetmaker> putting it higher wasn't in the plan either, was it?
17:30:52  <KenjiE20> except it changes it from "it's winter / new year's" to "it's seasonal"
17:31:04  <PublicServer> <Techinica> Are we planning to fund a farm or two or still working to hack it somehow?
17:31:13  <KenjiE20> no it wasn't, but obviously we need to to pop farms
17:31:34  <KenjiE20> -to
17:31:56  <planetmaker> we blame it on those lame farms. They should farm ice crystals. Then they'd have no issue with winter ;-)
17:32:05  <KenjiE20> greenhouses
17:32:47  <KenjiE20> !info
17:32:47  <PublicServer> KenjiE20: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Nedingstone Transport'  Year Founded: 1975  Money: 12178596  Loan: 0  Value: 12571018  (T:0, R:100, P:3, S:0) unprotected
17:32:48  <planetmaker> well, you made the map, so your choice :-) We need farms! :-)
17:33:00  <KenjiE20> we need cash too
17:33:09  <KenjiE20> unless I cheat that to fund
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17:33:17  <PublicServer> <Sam> can i remove the long detour to funingstone mines by adding a new hub north to SLH01 ?
17:33:18  <planetmaker> why do we need cash, too?
17:33:26  <KenjiE20> you need cash to fund pm
17:33:35  <planetmaker> yes... but we do that then ingame?
17:33:56  <KenjiE20> so go make more cash then :P
17:34:28  <planetmaker> hm, I thought you just raised the snow line now by one?
17:34:35  <KenjiE20> (I honestly have no idea what's going on anymore)
17:34:56  <planetmaker> ok, what was your plan?
17:35:02  <KenjiE20> wut?
17:35:18  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> Sam: What detour?
17:35:27  <planetmaker> for the farm problem
17:35:30  <KenjiE20> make/cheat cash -> load variable -> fund farms where ever they fit -> unload grf -> save -> load on PS
17:35:33  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> All coal go south-ish I think.
17:36:16  <PublicServer> <Sam> yep but the trucks have to go through an (i think) unecessary detour
17:36:17  <planetmaker> KenjiE20: hm, also cheat?
17:36:27  <planetmaker> ok, well. Why not
17:36:43  <planetmaker> we just need sufficient many farms to feed the two towns
17:37:13  <KenjiE20> you've lost me again
17:37:28  <planetmaker> :-D
17:37:33  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> sam: possible not neccessary. It SSLH01 could perhaps be extended so that Funingstone Mines enter M3 from north.
17:37:38  <planetmaker> go for what you planned to do anyway :-)
17:38:04  <planetmaker> obviously I suck at making myself clear
17:38:08  <KenjiE20> right, in which case we either need more cash, or I cheat it when I load your grf
17:38:29  <planetmaker> cheat it. Better now the farms than later
17:38:48  <KenjiE20> Should I pause?
17:39:48  <Zuu> KenjiE20: If you save + do local changes, please pause the online version.
17:39:57  <KenjiE20> !pause
17:39:57  <PublicServer> *** KenjiE20 has paused the server.
17:39:57  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players)
17:40:00  <KenjiE20> !save
17:40:00  <PublicServer> Saving game...
17:40:01  <PublicServer> Game saved
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17:41:33  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> Sam, when it goes online again we could try to keep the same style of SLH01 as it already has.
17:42:11  <PublicServer> <Sam> ok i'm thinking of some possible layouts
17:42:51  <KenjiE20> I got 8 farms in so far, enough?
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17:43:21  <KenjiE20> not sure I can squeeze any more in actually
17:43:30  <Zuu> I think so, 8 seams quite a lot on this map.
17:45:53  <KenjiE20> there's not fields, so they don't look that big
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17:47:04  <Sam1> !password
17:47:04  <PublicServer> Sam1: hisses
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17:47:40  <Techinica> !password
17:47:40  <PublicServer> Techinica: hisses
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17:47:42  <KenjiE20> oh yea, you also got £3mil GBP XMas pressie
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17:47:59  <KenjiE20> !auto
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17:48:22  <V453000> !password
17:48:22  <PublicServer> V453000: tapped
17:48:25  <KenjiE20> now get servicing those farms :)
17:48:35  <PublicServer> <Techinica> they're not producing
17:48:41  <PublicServer> <Kenji> they're building
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17:48:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> wee
17:49:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> you want to make it both ways?
17:49:47  <PublicServer> <Kenji> local FPP for drop funded
17:49:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> slh 01
17:50:02  <PublicServer> <Sam> why not ?
17:50:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> just want to advice making it more compact :ú
17:50:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> just to make it nice
17:50:28  <PublicServer> <Sam> two way roads ?
17:50:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> of course not
17:50:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> do what you wish
17:50:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> whatever
17:50:48  <PublicServer> <Sam> ok let's try ;)
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17:51:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> careful it must be this way
17:52:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> so the cars would leave the line first, join it later
17:52:08  <PublicServer> <Sam> ok
17:52:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> bah ... dinner
17:52:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> cya
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17:52:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> brb 15
17:52:42  <Zuu> !password
17:52:42  <PublicServer> Zuu: tapped
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17:55:30  <PublicServer> <Sam> ok for tf a bit of sea ?
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17:55:40  <PublicServer> <Kenji> where and why?
17:55:50  <PublicServer> <Sam> slh01
17:56:07  <PublicServer> <Kenji> you can't brdige because?
17:56:12  <PublicServer> <Kenji> bridge*
17:56:38  <PublicServer> <Kenji> or are you trying to smooth a curve?
17:56:39  <PublicServer> <Sam> just thinking... i'll try with the bridge
17:56:52  <PublicServer> <Sam> (was just 1 or 2 tiles)
17:57:49  <PublicServer> <Kenji> tech, it's half an slh atm
17:57:57  <PublicServer> <Kenji> feel free to poke the other half
17:58:06  <PublicServer> <Kenji> I've got teh dumb
17:58:26  <PublicServer> <Techinica> k
17:59:13  <PublicServer> <Kenji> that might help
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18:00:09  <Zuu> sam: A possible solution:
18:00:28  <Zuu> !password
18:00:28  <PublicServer> Zuu: tapped
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18:00:40  <PublicServer> <Sam> way more simple as mine ;)
18:06:09  <PublicServer> <Kenji> well, that's sort of an SLH
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18:07:04  <PublicServer> <Sam> looks nice
18:07:09  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> Yep
18:08:01  <PublicServer> <Sam> one question, why the one way out depots ?
18:08:06  <PublicServer> <Kenji> 'looks nice', rarely works nice :P
18:08:22  <KenjiE20> !rcon set max_roadveh
18:08:22  <PublicServer> KenjiE20: Current value for 'max_roadveh' is: '100' (min: 0, max: 5000)
18:08:26  <KenjiE20> !rcon set max_roadveh 500
18:08:29  <PublicServer> <Sam> one way out = exit only
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18:08:48  <PublicServer> <Kenji> not really useful in RV
18:08:49  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> Perhaps because they should't use that depot for servicing.
18:09:01  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> Ie it is only ment for building new vehicles.
18:09:04  <PublicServer> <Kenji> good for trains, since we don't need servicing etc.
18:09:23  <PublicServer> <Kenji> RVs (and especially eGRVTS) we'll likely need servicing
18:09:29  <PublicServer> <Kenji> (bigger trucks etc.)
18:10:02  <PublicServer> <Sam> but there is no service depots... it's because servicing is disabled ?
18:10:17  <PublicServer> <Kenji> any depot is a service depot
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18:10:43  <PublicServer> <Sam> not if you cannot enter into
18:12:05  <tkjacobsen> !password
18:12:05  <PublicServer> tkjacobsen: vilify
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18:13:17  <PublicServer> <Kenji> that shoreside farm needs TWO road stations
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18:15:24  <PublicServer> <Kenji> ha.... oh
18:15:58  <PublicServer> <Kenji> oh there is maglev in NARS
18:16:05  <PublicServer> <Kenji> first food drops
18:16:45  <PublicServer> <Kenji> had to jam some road stops on
18:17:05  <Zuu> What is the keyboard shortcut for the oneway button?
18:17:47  <V453000> !password
18:17:47  <PublicServer> V453000: vilify
18:18:20  <V453000> !password
18:18:20  <PublicServer> V453000: shaver
18:18:33  <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game
18:18:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
18:19:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> how is the situation?
18:19:43  <PublicServer> <Kenji> cold
18:19:43  <planetmaker> !password
18:19:44  <PublicServer> planetmaker: shaver
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18:19:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> :d
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18:20:03  <planetmaker> hm...
18:20:10  <planetmaker> that is truely odd
18:20:21  <PublicServer> <Kenji> w's'that?
18:20:25  <planetmaker> how can re-sizing the screen crash the game only in multiplayer?
18:20:49  <PublicServer> <Kenji> mine resizes
18:20:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
18:20:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> wtf
18:20:59  <PublicServer> <Kenji> mine even maximises
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18:21:54  <planetmaker> no, maximizing crashes, too ;-)
18:22:07  <PublicServer> <Kenji> platform bug?
18:22:24  <planetmaker> yes
18:22:59  <PublicServer> <Kenji> don't go near resize then :P
18:24:54  <planetmaker> seems like... let's see how SDL works
18:24:59  <planetmaker> probably it does
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18:25:05  <planetmaker> but... that has other bugs ;-)
18:25:57  <PublicServer> <persil> what is split pickup ?
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18:26:05  <PublicServer> <Kenji> seperated cargo
18:26:13  <PublicServer> <persil> ok thx
18:26:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> for example the farms
18:26:33  <PublicServer> <Kenji> so you don't get queue's of LV trucks waiting for Wheat, or vise versa
18:26:42  <PublicServer> <persil> ok
18:27:11  <PublicServer> <Kenji> naming stations appropriately helps too
18:27:19  * planetmaker shudders at the expected graphical quality of the SDL port...
18:27:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> I really like how the trucks get the cages with livestock on them :D
18:28:08  <PublicServer> <Kenji> SDL is rather sluggish compared to GDI :(
18:28:09  <planetmaker> hehe :-)
18:28:30  <planetmaker> KenjiE20: on my mac it's even funnily coloured:
18:28:33  <PublicServer> <Kenji> methinks food drop needs a full rebuid
18:28:33  <planetmaker> and yes, slower, too
18:29:07  <PublicServer> <Kenji> lol overlays
18:29:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> the colours give it a really freezing atmosphere :D
18:29:44  <PublicServer> <Kenji> ooooh
18:29:54  <PublicServer> <Kenji> RV's hit 1mil (GBP) profit
18:30:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
18:30:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> 26k RC :D
18:30:21  <PublicServer> <Sam> ok i finished slh04 and wrinnpool farm pick
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18:31:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> good
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18:31:26  <PublicServer> <Kenji> two farms to go
18:31:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> I get the top one
18:32:06  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> Though, a SLH... shouldn't that have all turnigs available?
18:32:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> which one
18:32:18  <PublicServer> <Kenji> yes
18:32:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> of course should though
18:32:31  <PublicServer> <Kenji> but if you're hooking onto an M road, it's an SLH
18:32:31  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> Ok, then I'll do that for SLH05.
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18:34:17  <planetmaker> !password
18:34:17  <PublicServer> planetmaker: churns
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18:34:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> :I
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18:35:10  <planetmaker> :-O
18:35:22  <PublicServer> <Kenji> why's it suddenly doing this?
18:35:26  <PublicServer> <Kenji> you were fine before
18:35:35  <PublicServer> <Kenji> or have you rebooted / switched PC?
18:35:42  <planetmaker> no, I haven't.
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18:35:59  <planetmaker> well, I usually don't resize too much... but... dunno really
18:37:11  <PublicServer> <Kenji> Label's a couple B roads
18:37:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> B roads are SL ?
18:37:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
18:37:54  <PublicServer> <Kenji> think of them as branch lines
18:37:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
18:37:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> thx
18:38:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> farm servd
18:39:04  <PublicServer> <Kenji> we know have the M1,M2,M3;A1(M),A2,A3,A4,A5,A6,A7,A20,A21;B1,B2,B3
18:39:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
18:39:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> B4 now too
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18:40:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> zuu: I added some cars to your Gruthill farm
18:40:22  <PublicServer> <Kenji> renamed some SLHs
18:40:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> as there were just few
18:40:28  <PublicServer> <Kenji> we had 3 dupes
18:40:30  <Zuu> Thanks V453000
18:40:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> sry kenji :)
18:40:48  <PublicServer> <Kenji> wasn't just you
18:40:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> whatever :) it was me
18:41:16  <PublicServer> <Kenji> heh, I like him, can we blame him from now on? :-P
18:41:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> hm?
18:41:35  <PublicServer> <Kenji> :)
18:41:56  <PublicServer> <Kenji> FPP now outputting 700tons
18:42:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> pwn :D
18:42:34  <PublicServer> <Kenji> stations need serious work though
18:43:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> the terminus RV stations are not a good idea imo
18:43:29  <PublicServer> <Kenji> quite so, since we're using semi's pretty much exclusively
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18:45:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> thx for naming that
18:46:14  <PublicServer> <Kenji> np
18:46:36  <PublicServer> <Kenji> does persil want to try debuilding his Food station?
18:46:44  <PublicServer> <Kenji> rebuilding*
18:46:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> debuilding too :)
18:47:02  <PublicServer> <Kenji> yes, debuilding too
18:47:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> I have completed another farm
18:47:44  <PublicServer> <Kenji> that's all of 'em
18:47:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will get the paper running probably
18:50:26  <PublicServer> <Kenji> food drop remade
18:50:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
18:50:38  <PublicServer> <Kenji> expandable when needed
18:51:21  <PublicServer> <Kenji> pm would be proud :P
18:51:32  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> Perhaps also remake the pickup so that the food can be deliveried?
18:51:37  <planetmaker> :-P
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18:51:50  <planetmaker> I'll be back! Just I have to make proper bug report_s_
18:51:58  <PublicServer> <Kenji> working on it zuu
18:52:04  <Zuu> Great
18:52:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> paper cars going
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18:52:56  <PublicServer> <Kenji> uh oh, Cardstone aren't happy
18:53:11  <PublicServer> <Kenji> byebye trees
18:53:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> they SUCK then
18:53:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah
18:53:39  <PublicServer> <Kenji> yay, how easily won over :P
18:53:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> in one nightly I had extremely often crashes when I planted trees
18:53:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> and I played a PAX game ...
18:57:21  <PublicServer> <Kenji> there, inital seed of 12 food per town
18:58:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> 1100 prod :)
18:59:29  <PublicServer> <Kenji> dinner
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18:59:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> bon apetite :)
19:05:53  <planetmaker> !password
19:05:53  <PublicServer> planetmaker: lather
19:05:54  <planetmaker> next test :-)
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19:06:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> still here? :D
19:06:50  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> no worries. I'll try to crash soon. First having a look so that I can make some perogative comments with at least *some* foundation
19:07:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> :o
19:07:15  <sparr> how do you implement a buffer depot?
19:07:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> sparr: which do you mean?
19:08:01  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> now... let's see
19:08:14  <sparr> a depot that goes before a station and 'absorbs' trains that are stuck waiting for an opening
19:08:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> an overflow
19:08:29  <PublicServer> *** planetm4ker has left the game (connection lost)
19:08:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh fuck pm :D
19:08:50  <planetmaker> oh. IRC is faster than my OpenTTD :-)
19:08:54  <planetmaker> It's still there
19:09:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> of course it is faster
19:09:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> for example my game sometimes disconnects - total lag - but does not exit the game, dont know why :D
19:10:40  <PublicServer> <Sam> need goods pickup at cardstone printing works ?
19:10:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> feel free to make it
19:11:01  <PublicServer> <Sam> here i go !
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19:14:00  <V453000> fff
19:14:09  <V453000> my window is completely frozen
19:14:12  <V453000> so I cant open it
19:16:30  <PublicServer> <Sam> where to send goods ? 50%-50% to FAD and FGC ?
19:17:22  <Combuster> !password
19:17:23  <PublicServer> Combuster: lather
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19:27:48  <V453000> !password
19:27:48  <PublicServer> V453000: rapids
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19:32:37  <Mark> !password
19:32:37  <PublicServer> Mark: rapids
19:33:09  <Mark> !password
19:33:09  <PublicServer> Mark: cashes
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19:33:23  <PublicServer> <Mark> evening
19:33:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi Mark :)
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19:34:02  <Combuster> Hi Mark
19:34:43  <PublicServer> <Combuster> lol?
19:35:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> hm?
19:36:28  <planetmaker> !password
19:36:28  <PublicServer> planetmaker: cashes
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19:36:45  <PublicServer> <Combuster> hmm all industries are connected
19:36:51  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hm, interesting
19:36:58  <PublicServer> <Combuster> prospect?
19:37:04  <PublicServer> <Techinica> connect the towns!
19:37:08  <PublicServer> <Sam> oil to goods ?
19:37:09  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> sure, if there's mony
19:37:37  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> rather prospecting :-)
19:37:45  <PublicServer> <Combuster> It'll probably cheaper if we don't buy
19:37:54  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> and build a bit roads for the towns so that they can grow
19:38:01  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> oh, yes, sure!
19:38:26  <Combuster> its been a while...
19:39:00  <Combuster> what was the patch setting for building industries again....?
19:39:09  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> raw_industries_construction
19:39:33  <Combuster> !rcon patch raw_industries_construction
19:39:33  <PublicServer> Combuster: 'raw_industries_construction' is an unknown setting.
19:40:33  <Combuster> !rcon patch raw_industry_construction
19:40:33  <PublicServer> Combuster: Current value for 'raw_industry_construction' is: '1' (min: 0, max: 2)
19:40:35  <Combuster> !rcon patch raw_industry_construction 2
19:41:06  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> lool
19:41:09  <PublicServer> <Combuster> we have enough money for about 40 industries
19:41:22  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> New roads built... and where do they build the first building? Up on the hill, most distant from the town!
19:41:32  <PublicServer> <Combuster> O.o
19:41:34  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> Don't be exessive quite now :-)
19:42:08  <PublicServer> <Sam> roads built in FGC
19:42:11  <PublicServer> <Combuster> farms still don't work
19:42:13  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> Combuster: remember to do minimal TF.
19:42:26  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> nvm farms. Towns get food ;-)
19:42:52  <PublicServer> <Combuster> afaik the only ugly construction is the bridge at Fadworth...
19:43:32  <PublicServer> <Combuster> care to elaborate?
19:43:35  <bibby> !download
19:43:35  <PublicServer> bibby: !download autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x
19:43:57  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> me?
19:43:58  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> who? what?
19:44:12  <Combuster> <PublicServer> <Zuuu> Combuster: remember to do minimal TF.
19:45:06  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> I don't say that you do a lot, but I think you could do a little less.
19:45:22  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> My choice would be to use less TF at that situation.
19:45:33  <PublicServer> <Combuster> at what situation?
19:45:41  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> Fadworth
19:45:47  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> city roads
19:45:59  <PublicServer> <Combuster> up the mountain?
19:46:00  <PublicServer> <Combuster> wasn'T me
19:46:23  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hm... I built the sea-side boulevard
19:46:35  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> but I didn't de-slope the roads ;-)
19:46:58  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> Though it was you, since you suggested building town roads.
19:47:15  <PublicServer> <Combuster> the only thing I did in the past 5 hours was prospecting 4 industries...
19:47:16  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> Yes, I did a bit TF, to get one-slope a time roads.
19:47:28  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> ah, that was you ;-)
19:47:34  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> At two spots.
19:47:54  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> oh, that one. yes, I could have done w/o the leveling there
19:48:04  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> but I thought about the future: cross-roads
19:48:21  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> that'd have been difficult w/o TF. But you're right.
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19:48:26  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> Less would have done
19:48:46  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> Well, whatever. It is not like the end of the world. :-)
19:48:49  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> :-)
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19:51:08  <PublicServer> <Kenji> hmmm, food needs a LOT more trucks
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19:51:37  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> yes :-) Do you buy or shall I?
19:51:57  <PublicServer> <Kenji> you can if you like, just remember to keep them even
19:52:22  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> what even?
19:52:29  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> oh, distribution? Yes...
19:52:46  <PublicServer> <Kenji> still drinking? :P
19:52:49  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> thanks for reminding, though. Would have forgotten already :-)
19:52:58  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> uh? Drinking?
19:53:25  <PublicServer> <Kenji> clearly not enough, or too much :P
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19:54:31  <PublicServer> <Combuster> prospecting looks broken
19:54:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> omfg :D
19:55:07  <PublicServer> <Combuster> I funded four industries
19:55:12  <PublicServer> <Combuster> there are only two new ones
19:55:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh ... thats ok
19:55:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> I feared there is some issue as with the farms was
19:55:51  <PublicServer> <Kenji> hmmm food is 24:20
19:56:07  <PublicServer> <Combuster> not anymore :)
19:56:16  <PublicServer> <Kenji> yea, just corrected
19:57:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> why dont we just make orders Pickup-DropA-Pickup-DropB?
19:57:19  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> good idea, V453000!
19:57:40  <PublicServer> <Kenji> 'cause I didn't think of that while rushing for food?
19:58:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> so?
19:58:36  <PublicServer> <Kenji> do it
19:58:36  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> done
19:58:37  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> :-)
19:58:40  <PublicServer> <Kenji> groups?
19:58:54  <PublicServer> <Kenji> you did one
19:58:55  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> didn't look at groups
19:58:58  <PublicServer> <Kenji> ONE
19:59:02  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> I did both, I think
19:59:18  <PublicServer> <Kenji> only 1 vehicle moved groups on Add Shared
19:59:32  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> then it was screwed before
19:59:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> I did the other
19:59:49  <PublicServer> <Kenji> arg
20:00:27  <PublicServer> <Kenji> now they've all moved
20:00:36  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> which is good, isn't it?
20:00:50  <PublicServer> <Kenji> no, orders haven't changed
20:00:57  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> eh?
20:01:06  <PublicServer> <Kenji> groups were muddled
20:01:12  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> They all have in those groups orders to both stations...?
20:01:30  <PublicServer> <Kenji> two different sets of shared though
20:02:22  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> one
20:02:41  <PublicServer> <Kenji> two
20:02:45  <PublicServer> <Kenji> 27 in one set
20:02:48  <PublicServer> <Kenji> 20 in toher
20:03:01  <PublicServer> <Kenji> and now you've killed the group
20:03:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> thats true
20:03:13  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> I shared orders with the other group?
20:03:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> they are two shared order groups
20:03:21  <PublicServer> * Kenji fixes
20:03:38  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> Tell me how you know that they're _still_ two groups?
20:03:52  <PublicServer> <Kenji> RV 293
20:03:55  <PublicServer> <Kenji> and RV 264
20:04:05  <PublicServer> <Kenji> open thier orders and look at the veh list
20:04:15  <PublicServer> <Combuster> they are categorized separately
20:04:22  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> he... :-)
20:04:23  <PublicServer> <Kenji> tis the button above the resive handle
20:06:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> only 300 out of 800 people transfered from FGC
20:06:23  <PublicServer> <Kenji> there
20:06:40  <PublicServer> <Kenji> NOW they're all on one set of orders
20:07:20  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> meh... FGC doesn't like us
20:07:28  <PublicServer> <Kenji> bye bye trees
20:07:33  <PublicServer> <Kenji> :P
20:08:48  <PublicServer> <Kenji> Going to set a couple auto replaces on
20:09:05  <PublicServer> <Kenji> Mettler Hopper -> TFB / Mettler Flatbed -> TFB
20:09:26  <PublicServer> <Kenji> faster and bigger
20:09:53  <PublicServer> <Kenji> same truck config, cab + trailer
20:10:43  <PublicServer> *** V453000 has joined spectators
20:12:11  <PublicServer> <Kenji> "Beaf"? "Weat"?
20:12:25  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Weed? O.o
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20:12:45  <PublicServer> <Kenji> @Nedinstone Farm
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20:13:45  <PublicServer> <Combuster> better now? :)
20:13:56  <PublicServer> <Kenji> lol
20:14:20  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hm?
20:14:28  <PublicServer> <Combuster> sorry, just missed it
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20:21:54  * Combuster tries to reproduce a bug
20:21:57  <PublicServer> <Kenji> hmm these trucks can't overtake
20:22:09  <Combuster> replace all trucks?
20:22:14  <PublicServer> *** Combuster #1 has left the game (connection lost)
20:22:30  <PublicServer> <Kenji> not worth it, it's only affecting a select few on the east
20:23:18  <Ammler>  RV game?
20:23:22  <PublicServer> <Kenji> and we have a new bus too
20:23:30  <PublicServer> <Combuster> how'd you guess, ammler? :)
20:23:33  <PublicServer> * Kenji sets replace
20:23:41  <PublicServer> <Kenji> 45mph -> 55mph
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20:23:49  <PublicServer> <Kenji> 74->90 cap
20:23:53  <Ammler> planetmaker: btw. autostart works again with nightles
20:24:13  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> download you mean? yeah... but I cannot test that anymore
20:24:20  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> no macos nightlies anymore
20:24:30  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> wow :-o
20:25:38  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> wth is with that depot?
20:25:51  <PublicServer> <Kenji> which?
20:26:20  <PublicServer> <Kenji> oh
20:26:42  <PublicServer> <Techinica> there's a good reason for it too.
20:26:46  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> no
20:26:47  <PublicServer> <Kenji> how lame
20:26:49  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> most hubs labled with SLH are BBHs
20:27:00  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> or at least they look like
20:27:03  <PublicServer> <Kenji> AmmIer: A roads are SLs
20:27:17  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> or which would it be, Techinica?
20:27:24  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> those A roads I see are RR_LL
20:27:50  <PublicServer> <Kenji> except nothing overtakes since they're all same speed
20:27:53  <PublicServer> <Techinica> my moving that depot was because the old one wouldn't let any new vehicles go directly to the food pickup
20:27:57  <PublicServer> <Kenji> so everything is LR anyway
20:28:08  <PublicServer> <Techinica> they were all going via budham mines
20:28:11  <PublicServer> <Kenji> Techinica: yes it would
20:28:16  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> of couse it did... they could go straight?
20:28:23  <PublicServer> <Techinica> Kenji, I added about 50, none of them did.
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20:28:43  <PublicServer> <Techinica> they ALL went up and around the bridge
20:28:45  <PublicServer> <Kenji> probably going to town as first order or something
20:28:55  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> ok, but what was the reason for the road destruction? That was my concern
20:29:04  <PublicServer> <Techinica> to put a depot in futher down
20:29:15  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> yes? Why block the road for that?
20:29:15  <PublicServer> <Kenji> and you had to demosih for that
20:29:27  <PublicServer> <Techinica> demolishing was accidental
20:29:33  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> ok. sorry
20:29:52  <PublicServer> <Techinica> hence I demolished another to stop even more trucks getting stuck there.
20:29:56  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> I thought the intention was to gather all the vehicles there for *something*
20:30:42  <PublicServer> <Kenji> cool, all RVs are on optimals
20:30:56  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> FGC/FDW?
20:31:10  <PublicServer> <Kenji> on polynikes
20:31:17  <PublicServer> <Kenji> sorry TFB
20:31:22  <PublicServer> <Kenji> ie ye
20:31:24  <PublicServer> <Kenji> yes*
20:31:59  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> is there a feature to stop town from growing along the roads?
20:32:08  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> no
20:32:16  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> not that I know of.
20:32:22  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> except you disable growth in total
20:32:46  <PublicServer> <Grayson> Or buy the land around it?
20:33:08  <PublicServer> <Kenji> why are vehicles going to depots?
20:33:34  <PublicServer> <Kenji> RE: RV 442 and co.
20:35:06  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> oh we have new ICE busses?
20:35:17  <PublicServer> <Grayson> Nedingstone WEED Pickup? :-D
20:35:17  <PublicServer> <Kenji> didn't I just mention that?
20:35:29  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> probably. Just didn't notice it back then :-)
20:35:51  <PublicServer> <Kenji> 74->90 cap, 45->55mph iirc
20:36:06  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> no worries, I agree :-) I just noticed :-)
20:36:35  <PublicServer> <Kenji> it upgraded the locals at the same time too :)
20:36:42  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> :-)
20:36:57  <PublicServer> <Kenji> though I wonder if those might be better as bendy busses
20:37:49  <PublicServer> <Combuster> for non-bending buses, they have pretty high capacity
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20:38:05  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> need to change the music
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20:38:11  <PublicServer> <Kenji> hmm, no new bendy yet
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20:38:21  <PublicServer> <Kenji> there's a bendy with 120~ cap later
20:38:39  <PublicServer> * Kenji has POTC: Dead Man's Chest on :)
20:39:06  <PublicServer> <Combuster> my brother's being live DJ
20:39:17  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> nice. 7.5 million RV income
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20:39:32  <PublicServer> * Combuster now has to listen to Monks
20:39:33  <PublicServer> <Kenji> hmm we lost a jet
20:39:42  <PublicServer> <Kenji> might as well depot the last one
20:39:49  <PublicServer> <Sam> are MM still needed ??
20:39:52  <PublicServer> <Kenji> oh wait, they're both there
20:39:53  <PublicServer> <Combuster> I see two jets...
20:40:07  <PublicServer> <Kenji> I set them for unload
20:40:12  <PublicServer> <Kenji> will depot after
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20:41:26  <PublicServer> <Kenji> no harm in leaving the airports
20:41:30  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> no
20:41:38  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> they're eye candy :-)
20:41:42  <PublicServer> <Kenji> SNAFU backup plan
20:41:45  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> the volume control doesn't work here
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20:41:57  <PublicServer> <Grayson> Just lots of angry customers waiting for a plane. ;-)
20:42:08  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Bad for ratings
20:42:19  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> true
20:42:19  <PublicServer> <Sam> lol ok
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20:43:46  <PublicServer> <Kenji> we don't need a 2->3
20:43:53  <PublicServer> <Kenji> kill that suspension
20:44:09  <Ammler> does the music volume work for you?
20:44:24  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> I don't have music installed.
20:44:35  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> I wonder whether overtaking works on non-oneway roads
20:44:46  <PublicServer> <Kenji> possibly
20:44:53  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> planetm4ker: Yes it does
20:44:54  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> let's try
20:45:19  <PublicServer> <Sam> warning high traffic jam a west of M2
20:45:55  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> then building one-way is bad, if overtaking doesn't work there
20:46:28  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> Overtaking should work equally good or bad as non-oneway
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20:46:59  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> It seams to me that some custom RVs (aka grf RVs) are worse on overtaking than the original length vehicles.
20:47:02  <Ammler> yes, it should work other in oneway :-)
20:47:05  <Intexon> hi
20:47:07  <Intexon> !dl win32
20:47:07  <PublicServer> Intexon:
20:47:38  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hm... busses are slower than trucks
20:47:57  <Ammler> those example midis from forum looks like one instrument only
20:47:58  <PublicServer> <Kenji> that's double deckers for you
20:47:59  <Intexon> !password
20:47:59  <PublicServer> Intexon: buttes
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20:48:15  <Ammler> but nice
20:48:22  <planetmaker> hello Intexon
20:48:33  <PublicServer> <Combuster> we could reach 125km/h with half the capacity...
20:48:45  <PublicServer> <Kenji> cap makes more money per annum
20:50:21  <Ammler> hmm
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20:51:10  <Ammler> would you already report music bugs?
20:51:27  <Ammler> I give them some time :-)
20:51:45  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> Is it in the music or in the OpenTTD code?
20:52:22  <PublicServer> <Techinica> I can't seem to find anywhere to turn off the sound effects... but that's probably user error
20:52:32  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> Techinica: In the music gui
20:52:47  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> Click on the third icon from the right in the tool bar.
20:53:16  <PublicServer> <Kenji> seriously
20:53:19  <PublicServer> <Techinica> yeah, I've got both music and effects on MIN and I'm still hearing the 'cher-ching' of cash, and horns etc
20:53:22  <PublicServer> <Kenji> STOP blowing up M roads
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20:56:24  <PublicServer> <Intexon> wow
20:56:30  <PublicServer> <Intexon> very impressive road network
20:59:40  <PublicServer> <Kenji> who keeps using dynamite by food?
20:59:44  <PublicServer> <Techinica> me
20:59:57  <PublicServer> <Techinica> dude... the station is jamming...
21:00:03  <PublicServer> <Techinica> i.e. needs fixing.
21:00:12  <PublicServer> <Kenji> it was jamming because there was a flood of trucks
21:00:19  <PublicServer> <Techinica> and your point is?
21:00:20  <PublicServer> <Kenji> cause the roads were being blown up
21:00:39  <PublicServer> <Techinica> that only means the design is wrong.
21:00:50  <PublicServer> <Kenji> its not wrong
21:00:53  <PublicServer> <Techinica> there were like 6 other stations those trucks could have been going to
21:00:58  <PublicServer> <Techinica> and they weren't
21:01:19  <PublicServer> <Combuster> flood, and still no jam
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21:01:50  <PublicServer> <Kenji> quite
21:02:13  <PublicServer> <Combuster> good thing there are no traffic lights in place
21:02:42  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> @ jamming, shall I try to move the slope one tile quickly when there is a gap in the stream?
21:03:12  <PublicServer> <Sam> what about making the entrance to M2 on the top tile ?
21:03:13  <PublicServer> <Combuster> I don't see jams there...
21:04:02  <PublicServer> <Kenji> I don't see what that achieves tbh
21:04:12  <grim4593> !download
21:04:12  <PublicServer> grim4593: !download autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x
21:04:17  <PublicServer> <Combuster> faster merge
21:04:19  <grim4593> !download win64
21:04:19  <PublicServer> grim4593:
21:04:20  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> Eh, please, use remove road instead of blowing the entire road at a place where the path-finding will visit often.
21:04:24  <PublicServer> <Combuster> the junction empties faster
21:04:40  <PublicServer> <Sam> zuuu: sorry :)
21:04:49  <PublicServer> <Combuster> what'd be the reason for that?
21:05:13  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> You don't want to cut of a path for the path-finder if it is avoidable.
21:05:21  <PublicServer> <Kenji> indeed
21:05:33  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> It could cause a evhicle to take a long detour.
21:05:39  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> vehicle*
21:05:43  <grim4593> !password
21:05:43  <PublicServer> grim4593: skimps
21:06:02  <PublicServer> <Combuster> well, if the autoroad tool could be used more reliably
21:06:03  <grim4593> !grf
21:06:03  <PublicServer> grim4593: (Version 7.3)
21:06:21  <PublicServer> * Kenji doesn't have an issue with it
21:06:42  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> My only issue is that I havn't figured out which key to use to toggle one-way road yet.
21:06:49  <PublicServer> <Combuster> especially with half-tile road sections, it picks the wrong one
21:06:56  <PublicServer> <Combuster> zuu: 8
21:06:57  <grim4593> hmm
21:07:00  <grim4593> grf mismatch
21:07:02  <PublicServer> <Kenji> 8
21:07:12  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> Kenji: Thanks
21:07:16  <KenjiE20> @quickstart
21:07:18  <PublicServer> <Combuster> grim: use BaNaNaS
21:07:27  <Webster> timed out -
21:07:31  <KenjiE20> hm
21:07:39  <PublicServer> <Combuster> there should be a button "find missing content online"
21:07:43  <grim4593> yeah. its down.
21:07:51  <grim4593> i hit that and it gave an error
21:08:15  <grim4593> oh
21:08:17  <grim4593> its downloading nwo
21:08:20  <grim4593> now*
21:08:35  <grim4593> !password
21:08:35  <PublicServer> grim4593: skimps
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21:09:12  <PublicServer> <grim4593> hehe. first road game i have seen
21:09:43  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> I've made one on a 128x128 map myself.
21:10:04  <PublicServer> <Kenji> pm; no they don't overtake on two-ways
21:10:19  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> A bit like this one but smaller. I had LongVehicles and break downs enabled. <3
21:10:48  <PublicServer> *** Combuster has joined spectators
21:11:27  <PublicServer> <Combuster> cya'll later
21:11:32  <planetmaker> Ciao Combuster
21:15:24  <PublicServer> <grim4593> is there a way to see what is underground in tunnels?
21:15:33  <Zuu> Seams like articulated vehicles can't overtake (non)-articulated vehicles.
21:15:44  <Zuu> non-articulated seams to overtake fine.
21:15:51  <PublicServer> <Kenji> other artic?
21:16:06  <Hirundo> Zuu: you are correct, articulated RVs can't overtake
21:16:13  <PublicServer> * Kenji thinks artic vehs can't at all
21:16:30  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> oh, right.
21:16:34  <PublicServer> <Kenji> is that on purpose?
21:16:57  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> as far as purpose goes: yes. I think Hirudo is right
21:17:11  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker>  But purpose might end at "can't be bothered to implement it"
21:17:40  <PublicServer> <Kenji> I can understand for road train style ones, but semi+trailer?
21:18:17  * Zuu guess the code support for articulated overtake is missing.
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21:18:21  <planetmaker> Zuu: btw, it seems you spell seems always as seams, which are what seem to seam your clothes ;-)
21:18:45  <Ammler> seemselibim
21:18:47  <Zuu> planetmaker: heh, yea it seems so :-)
21:19:03  <PublicServer> <Kenji> now then, Printing works goods pickup, *is* jammed, and *is* wrong
21:19:26  <PublicServer> <Sam> argh
21:19:58  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> we have a design which can be improved it seems :-)
21:20:42  <PublicServer> <Sam> will be hard to refactor the road with 15 trucks on it
21:21:03  <planetmaker> Sam: go for it piece-wise. Shall we do it together?
21:21:04  <PublicServer> <Kenji> that's what turn-around is for :P
21:21:24  <PublicServer> <Sam> why not... which layout ?
21:22:11  <PublicServer> <Techinica> Try moving the exit to the other end of the station...
21:22:27  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> I'd go for one where there's more chance to travel on...
21:22:47  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> and I'd make it two-way :-)
21:22:53  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> Double capacity then
21:22:54  <PublicServer> <Kenji> quite
21:23:01  <PublicServer> <Kenji> two-ways is a must for pickups it seems
21:23:21  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> might actually solve it already
21:23:42  <PublicServer> <Kenji> solved :P
21:24:00  <PublicServer> <Sam> woot ;)
21:24:06  <PublicServer> <Kenji> what's with the grid?
21:24:13  <PublicServer> <Kenji> ah
21:24:34  <PublicServer> <Kenji> need to poke some hole in the stations
21:25:24  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> :-O
21:25:31  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> no improvement it seems
21:25:32  <PublicServer> <Kenji> my aim is off
21:25:49  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> lool
21:25:52  <PublicServer> <Sam> hum.....
21:25:53  <PublicServer> <Kenji> need to filter how the enter to system I think
21:25:54  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> tunneled through
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21:26:37  <PublicServer> <Techinica> I'd guess the issue is because path finding is trying to find the shortest route...
21:26:50  <PublicServer> <Techinica> Which makes the trucks prefer the first stations
21:26:55  <PublicServer> <Techinica> And queue instead.
21:27:30  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> good choice this way, I think
21:27:33  <PublicServer> <Sam> seems better
21:27:42  <PublicServer> <Kenji> we'll see eh?
21:27:46  <PublicServer> <Sam> however there is too much trucks imho
21:27:47  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> yes
21:27:59  <PublicServer> <Techinica> just not enough paper :P
21:28:04  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> :-)
21:28:13  <PublicServer> <Kenji> indeed
21:28:14  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> too little wood
21:28:30  <PublicServer> <Kenji> trees are what we're good at!
21:28:37  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> two new are there
21:29:33  <PublicServer> <Zuuu>  Should Budham Forest be station walked or has its own station?
21:29:54  <PublicServer> <Kenji> already walked
21:30:13  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hm... walking in the main game is bad IMO
21:30:20  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> Yep, but the question is if they should be walked or has its own station.
21:30:23  <PublicServer> <Kenji> it's like 4 tiles away
21:30:32  <PublicServer> <Sam> walking ? what is it ?
21:30:37  <KenjiE20> @stationwalking
21:30:37  <Webster> stationwalking: The act of creating a station in two spots by adding and removing connecting sections, see also:
21:30:48  <PublicServer> <Kenji> yes I'm that lazy
21:30:50  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> That is what you did before distant join was added to trunk :-)
21:30:54  <PublicServer> <grim4593> you can build eyecandy if you don't like it :P
21:30:55  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> (walking)
21:31:22  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hey, it's a hi-capacity forest - we need that for the production ;-)
21:32:03  <PublicServer> <Kenji> so's the one at FPP
21:32:06  <PublicServer> <Techinica> guess thats one way to walk your station...
21:32:11  <PublicServer> <Kenji> which also seems to be walked
21:32:34  <PublicServer> <grim4593> needs more trucks
21:32:50  <KenjiE20> !rcon set max_roadveh 750
21:32:57  <PublicServer> <Sam> i add trucks to cardstone wood pick
21:33:10  <Zuu> sam: It is now possible to use ctrl when you build a station and select what existing station it should belong to. Earlier you had to build a long station and remove the parts in between. That is why it is called walking.
21:33:48  <PublicServer> <Sam> zuu: yes i know that a wonderful feature !!
21:34:12  <PublicServer> <grim4593> wow. just noticed that feature. nice.
21:36:10  <PublicServer> <Sam> wow new forests production dropped from 250 to 150......
21:36:24  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> he... yeah
21:36:28  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> :S
21:36:40  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> It needs more vehicles..
21:36:54  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> what, Sarfingfield woods?
21:36:57  <PublicServer> <grim4593> similar queue problem.
21:37:17  <PublicServer> <Sam> where ?
21:37:27  <PublicServer> <grim4593> Budham
21:37:39  <PublicServer> <Sam> yep
21:37:50  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> We should move the entrance
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21:39:47  <PublicServer> <Sam> need more room
21:42:39  <planetmaker> hm, is there a way to remove one-way from a road w/o destroying the road?
21:42:51  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> 3 + 8
21:42:54  <PublicServer> <Kenji> go over it again in the same dir
21:43:07  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> a, thanks
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21:47:32  <PublicServer> <Sam> budham wood pick seems ok
21:47:47  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> yep, the lower part could be raised, but it is okay as it is.
21:47:57  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> Just having a bit too many trucks.
21:47:58  <PublicServer> <Techinica> tf minimal...
21:48:41  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> good reminder. :-)
21:48:50  <PublicServer> <Techinica> ;)
21:48:51  <PublicServer> <Sam> 500t paper available
21:48:55  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> Also it doesn't need another two stops that would be gained by raising it.
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21:53:28  <PublicServer> <Techinica> Want to fund a bank somewhere so we can connect that gold mine?
21:53:39  <PublicServer> <Techinica> or nevermind
21:53:44  <PublicServer> <Techinica> there's one in FGC
21:54:00  <PublicServer> <Kenji> both towns should probably get gold
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21:54:09  <PublicServer> <Kenji> else no one could afford booze for new years :)
21:54:29  <PublicServer> <Grayson> Or weed :-D
21:55:15  <PublicServer> <Techinica> should we transfer the gold or deliver directly?
21:55:36  <PublicServer> <Sam> woohoo goods production increased from 150 to 830 units per month !!!
21:55:45  <PublicServer> <Kenji> might be easiest to distantjoin to the bank
21:56:03  <PublicServer> <Kenji> pm; thoughts ^
21:57:32  <PublicServer> <Techinica> pax rating at FGC sucks...
21:57:38  <PublicServer> <Sam> wtf dropped back to 300 :(
21:57:57  <PublicServer> <Techinica> Fadworth is even worse :P
21:58:10  <PublicServer> <Sam> fad is way worse !
22:00:54  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> banks?
22:01:04  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hm... ok, let's do valuables, too
22:01:09  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> yes, distant join them
22:02:07  <PublicServer> <Techinica> FGC distant joined
22:02:27  <PublicServer> <Kenji> hmmmm
22:02:40  <PublicServer> <Kenji> some of our trucks could carry more load, but loose 10mph
22:03:00  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> uh?
22:03:09  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> ah, replacement?
22:03:22  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> test it over 1...years with one or two
22:03:22  <PublicServer> <Kenji> 60mph -> 50mph, 50->62 cap (avg.)
22:03:40  <PublicServer> <Kenji> flatbeds and hoppers
22:03:49  <Ammler> different trucks per cargo type?
22:04:03  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> Ammler: depends :-)
22:04:05  <PublicServer> <Kenji> I'll test it with a couple paper trucks
22:04:25  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> hmm, aren't those longer as well?
22:04:58  <PublicServer> <Kenji> yes, and?
22:04:58  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> Would you gain better cargo flow?
22:05:03  <PublicServer> <Kenji> we use on roads
22:05:13  <PublicServer> <Kenji> "that's why we must TEST!"
22:05:20  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> Sure
22:05:21  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> :-)
22:05:28  <PublicServer> <Kenji> points for the quote
22:05:47  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> yeah, no signal spacing for road vehicles
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22:06:21  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> Doesn't the headway depend on the vehicle length?
22:06:29  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> boah... food plant is nearly insanely dense traffic :-)
22:06:42  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> dunno, Zuuu:-)
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22:07:41  <PublicServer> <persil> why do we build highway ? Eye candy ? Because fastest trucks stay behind slower buses.
22:08:05  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> well... if they were not articulated vehicles it would help overtaking
22:08:09  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> If we had non-articulated trucks they would actually overtake.
22:08:12  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> we just learnt today :-)
22:08:21  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> But most eGVRTS trucks are articulated.
22:08:29  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> which also looks nice :-)
22:08:30  <PublicServer> <persil> :-) Thx
22:08:31  <PublicServer> <Kenji> the high cap ones are
22:08:42  <PublicServer> <Kenji> it's about 50/50 artic and non
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22:10:22  <PublicServer> <Kenji> wow
22:10:45  <PublicServer> <Kenji> one run on the bigger paper truck, made more than the smaller in a year
22:10:51  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> uh?!
22:11:01  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> new smaller one?
22:11:03  <PublicServer> <Kenji> per year profit on paper is 7k
22:11:13  <PublicServer> <Kenji> the new bigger cap one made 9k in one run
22:11:31  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> then 7k is one of the 5 new ones I bought 5s before you asked testing
22:11:36  <PublicServer> <Kenji> wait.. but it took 5mnths to get here
22:11:46  <PublicServer> <Kenji> :/
22:11:50  <PublicServer> <Kenji> dunno
22:12:03  <PublicServer> <Kenji> I /think/ it makes more
22:12:10  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> 30k€ seem ok
22:12:18  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> RV #?
22:12:23  <PublicServer> <Kenji> hmmm
22:12:34  <PublicServer> <Kenji> smaller ones made avg. 22k over 2 years
22:12:50  <PublicServer> <Kenji> since it takes best part of half a year to go one way
22:12:57  <PublicServer> <Kenji> regardless of speed
22:13:08  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> got a number for me?
22:13:15  <PublicServer> <Kenji> new trucks are #596 and ##587
22:13:34  <PublicServer> <Kenji> look for the traffic jam :P
22:13:48  <PublicServer> <Sam> mega jamming at FAD !
22:13:55  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> omg!
22:14:08  <PublicServer> <Kenji> I *think* paper would do well on the bigger cap trucks
22:14:12  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> also the jam behind your new truck ;-)
22:14:28  <PublicServer> <Kenji> but other industries, I doubt as much
22:14:52  <PublicServer> <Kenji> what do you reckon?
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22:15:12  <PublicServer> <Kenji> I guess the problem would be lack of overtaking
22:15:18  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> Since we don't have overtaking it might be a good idea to stick to one truck speed as long as possible. Eg all new trucks or no new.
22:15:26  <PublicServer> <Kenji> you'd need all the vehicles at same speed
22:15:58  <PublicServer> <Kenji> I'll switch those two back
22:16:39  <PublicServer> <Kenji> They would make more, but they'd cut into everything else, so yea..
22:16:40  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> They could work as flow compressors :-p
22:17:02  <PublicServer> <AmmIer> good night all
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22:17:19  <PublicServer> <Kenji> we could always go with billions of tiny ones :P
22:17:47  <PublicServer> <Kenji> but I think CPU's would die
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22:21:43  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> I think I de-jammed Fadworth
22:21:53  <PublicServer> <Sam> but it's overcrowed....
22:22:00  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> where?
22:22:05  <PublicServer> <Sam> fad
22:22:19  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> all vehicles are loading or dropping
22:22:29  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> and not jamming. So... where is it overcrowded?
22:22:47  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> That you get when you send *a lot* of vehicles to the same location :-)
22:22:56  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> (crowdiness)
22:22:59  <PublicServer> <Sam> 2500 people waiting to go to FGC for the party ;)
22:23:11  <PublicServer> <Kenji> can some kind soul go through Chahill WHEAT/LV and share all the orders?
22:23:14  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> lol
22:23:33  <PublicServer> <Kenji> I'm busy grouping trucks
22:23:35  <PublicServer> <Sam> (by overcrowed i meant people not vehicules)
22:23:40  <PublicServer> <Kenji> and unshared are a feckin pain
22:23:47  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> (I wasn't lol-ing at your request, Kenji :-) )
22:24:02  <PublicServer> <Techinica> anyone got any ideas on where to put a bank in Fadworth???
22:24:08  <PublicServer> <Kenji> I know, was just quantifying
22:24:13  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> Why do the FGC feeders go to order 1 when the load percentage is 90 and not 100?
22:24:26  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> Techinica: near Fadworth Central
22:25:04  <PublicServer> <Kenji> oh FFS
22:25:11  <PublicServer> <Kenji> paper goods aren't shared either
22:25:21  <PublicServer> <Techinica> :)
22:25:36  <PublicServer> <Kenji> 52 RVs go to the station, there are 23 in one shared orders list
22:25:46  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> ugh..
22:27:05  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> hmm there is another shared group with 29 vehicles
22:27:22  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> including RV #200
22:27:29  <PublicServer> <Kenji> quite
22:27:48  <PublicServer> <Kenji> I'm only grouping shared orders vehicles, that are right
22:28:28  <PublicServer> <Zuuu> 23+29=52 so at least there is no non-shared vehicles.
22:29:05  <PublicServer> * Kenji toys with the idea of bad orders being kickable
22:33:47  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> lool, just lool
22:33:54  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> busses come and go in waves
22:34:17  <PublicServer> <Kenji> oh for the love of f...
22:34:29  <PublicServer> <Kenji> people are still adding unshared / ungrouped trucks
22:34:36  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> :-(
22:34:55  <PublicServer> <Kenji> if I find out who, I'm gonna eat your fingers
22:34:58  <PublicServer> <Kenji> I swear
22:35:07  <PublicServer> <Techinica> admittely, I forgot to group the gold trucks.
22:35:10  <PublicServer> <Techinica> they've got shared orders though
22:35:12  <PublicServer> <Sam> ungrouped are maybe mines, but unshared... not me
22:35:28  <PublicServer> <Kenji> most things are ungrouped, so no worries
22:35:33  <PublicServer> <Kenji> but un shared....
22:35:59  <PublicServer> <Kenji> things'll get groupd if you clone from the correct groups
22:37:48  <PublicServer> <Kenji> I hope whoevers regrouping things, are making sure those stations have 1 set of shared orders
22:39:57  <PublicServer> <Sam> you have to manually add each truck to the group ?
22:40:02  <PublicServer> <Kenji> no
22:40:22  <PublicServer> <Kenji> if you have been, you're probably doing it all wrong
22:40:35  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> chaos ensues
22:40:39  <PublicServer> <Sam> ouch
22:40:58  <PublicServer> * Kenji wonders just who was sorting
22:40:58  <PublicServer> <Sam> i put RV#321 in 'goods (books)'
22:41:01  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> yes, it was me at Fadworth. Rebuilding bridges caused kinda a jam :-)
22:41:20  <PublicServer> <Sam> then others came to the group after
22:41:37  <PublicServer> <Kenji> that groups supposed to be empty
22:41:46  <PublicServer> <Kenji> since there are TWO sets of shared orders
22:42:00  <PublicServer> <Sam> they could be merged, no ?
22:42:07  <PublicServer> <Kenji> they should be
22:42:12  <PublicServer> <Kenji> but until they are
22:44:05  <PublicServer> <Kenji> just testing :P
22:45:12  <PublicServer> <Kenji> WTF?!
22:45:23  <PublicServer> <Kenji> why are there livestock in the paper group?
22:45:27  <PublicServer> <Kenji> ARGH!
22:46:43  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> oh... bridges can be re-build while vehilces are on them...
22:46:58  <PublicServer> <Sam> really ? neat !
22:46:59  <PublicServer> <Kenji> yes, did you not see me test that
22:47:10  <PublicServer> <Kenji> right before I said "Just testing"
22:48:05  <PublicServer> <Kenji> who wants to hellp sort shared orders?
22:48:22  <PublicServer> <Sam> ok ask
22:48:30  <PublicServer> <Kenji> I thought I just did?
22:48:38  <PublicServer> <Sam> sorry, how to ?
22:49:01  <PublicServer> <Kenji> take the station list, pick a starting point, and work through it
22:49:45  <PublicServer> <Sam> ok
22:49:52  <PublicServer> * Kenji goes to empty the groups
22:49:55  <PublicServer> <Kenji> -sigh0
22:50:08  <PublicServer> <Kenji> someone's dumped unshared in with the shareds
22:50:43  <PublicServer> <Sam> where are the groups ?
22:50:50  <PublicServer> <Kenji> what did I just say
22:51:23  <PublicServer> <Kenji> shared orders != groups
22:51:51  <PublicServer> <Sam> and to add a vehicule to a group ? drag n' drop ?
22:51:59  <PublicServer> <Kenji> IMO it IS a pre-req though
22:52:09  <PublicServer> <Kenji> you're not doing groups
22:52:18  <PublicServer> <Kenji> you were doing shared orders
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22:52:45  <PublicServer> <Sam> is it possible to create the groups from the shared order ?
22:52:53  <PublicServer> <Kenji> no
22:52:56  <PublicServer> <Sam> damn
22:53:17  <PublicServer> <Kenji> it would probably be bad to anyway
22:53:47  <PublicServer> <Kenji> Who's mucking with the groups?
22:53:57  <PublicServer> <Sam> me sorry
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22:59:40  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> woah...
23:00:16  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> 18 of 21(?) bus terminals at Fadworth have been in use right then
23:01:08  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> ok, but that station now finally seems to work - if no-one adds a 2nd moterway entry ;-)
23:01:32  <PublicServer> <Kenji> nice, can you help with shared orders?
23:01:48  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> now I can :-)
23:02:03  <PublicServer> <Techinica> any stations you know are in need of help?
23:02:19  <PublicServer> <Kenji> I recommned starting from the bottom of the station list and working up
23:02:34  <PublicServer> <Kenji> Tech, wanna sort the Goods at Paper
23:02:49  <PublicServer> <persil> what's the job with shared orders ? check every stations ?
23:02:53  <PublicServer> <Techinica> can do
23:03:00  <PublicServer> <Kenji> persil, pretty much
23:03:10  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> why bottom?
23:03:23  <PublicServer> <Kenji> because the top ones are the huge central ones
23:03:31  <PublicServer> <Kenji> which means checking all at once
23:03:40  <PublicServer> <Kenji> bottom are the smaller scattered ones
23:03:43  <PublicServer> <persil> what more ?
23:04:05  <PublicServer> <Kenji> easier to stop/resume
23:04:26  <PublicServer> <Kenji> persil, I advise you co-ordinate with pm, so you don't overlap too much
23:04:37  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> I go from top ;-)
23:04:44  <PublicServer> <Kenji> and Grouping IS NOT Shared Orders
23:04:58  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> I know. But it helps
23:05:15  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> ... did you delete my group?
23:05:15  <PublicServer> <Kenji> it's a pre-req IMO
23:05:21  <PublicServer> <Kenji> but some one added a group for a farm
23:05:26  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> yes, I
23:05:31  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> ...
23:05:38  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> *sigh*
23:05:42  <PublicServer> <Kenji> ah, was that a temp one for working?
23:06:08  <PublicServer> <persil> Do you want us to add shared orders into groups afterwards ?
23:06:54  <PublicServer> <Kenji> per cargo type, if you're sure the station is all one shared order
23:07:11  <PublicServer> <persil> ok
23:07:23  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> well. Each station could have its group IMO
23:07:26  <PublicServer> <Techinica> Cardstone GOODS PICK is fine.
23:07:33  <PublicServer> <Kenji> that's not that useful
23:07:47  <PublicServer> <Kenji> since you can get that already from the station itself
23:08:07  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> true
23:08:37  <PublicServer> <persil> i'm on sarfingfiels wood pick
23:08:54  <PublicServer> <Techinica> Anyone checked PRINTING WORKS DROP?
23:09:03  <Journey> !password
23:09:03  <PublicServer> Journey: salons
23:09:11  <PublicServer> <Kenji> no wood has moved afaict
23:09:21  <PublicServer> *** Journey joined the game
23:10:41  <PublicServer> <Kenji> I'm sorting the paper goods orders now
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23:12:16  <Zuu> Ah, nice, faster compilation :-)
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23:13:23  <PublicServer> <Kenji> goods grouped
23:13:46  <PublicServer> <Kenji> oh jeeez
23:14:00  <PublicServer> <Kenji> there are a ton of stand-alone ICE PAX
23:14:11  <PublicServer> <Techinica> yeah, just seeing that now...
23:14:21  <PublicServer> <Kenji> that's like 50 of them
23:14:28  <PublicServer> <Kenji> wanna give me a hand
23:14:43  <PublicServer> <Techinica> yeah
23:14:44  <PublicServer> <Kenji> do a sort by model in the RV list
23:14:49  <PublicServer> <Techinica> getting them on the high way :)
23:15:18  <PublicServer> <Kenji> kay, I'll re pop the group listing
23:15:28  <PublicServer> <persil> i'm doing Chahill Wheat then LS
23:16:41  <PublicServer> <Kenji> tech, go to the rv list
23:16:52  <PublicServer> <Kenji> highlight ungrouped, and sort by model
23:17:13  <PublicServer> <Kenji> I'll spam the add shared, you take the top bus and share it
23:17:26  <PublicServer> <Techinica> okay
23:17:45  <PublicServer> <Kenji> there's the odd rouge shared list too
23:17:51  <PublicServer> <Kenji> so watch for those
23:17:52  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> IMO it's easier to go through the stations ;-)
23:18:05  <PublicServer> <Kenji> trouble is, the PAX stations have local and ICE
23:18:46  <PublicServer> <Kenji> and goods, and food
23:18:47  <PublicServer> <Kenji> etc.etc.
23:20:06  <V453000> !password
23:20:06  <PublicServer> V453000: jabbed
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23:20:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
23:21:36  <PublicServer> <persil> i'am checking Budham Wood Pick
23:21:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> hehe I see the towns grew nicely
23:22:08  <PublicServer> <Techinica> any wonder with all these busses
23:22:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> food mainly
23:23:52  <PublicServer> <Kenji> there, got all the ice pax
23:23:55  <PublicServer> <Techinica> yep
23:24:29  <PublicServer> <Kenji> why does the bundham wood pick truck have a dupe order?
23:25:04  <PublicServer> <Kenji> why's it grouped with that, and why is that station not all one group?
23:25:20  <PublicServer> <Kenji> *rage*
23:26:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> somebody edited it a lot
23:26:06  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> farm trucks grouped and shared.
23:26:11  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> And now good night :-)
23:26:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> cya
23:26:23  <PublicServer> <Kenji> oooh
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23:26:27  <PublicServer> <Kenji> a 98 cap bendy bus
23:28:11  <PublicServer> <Kenji> food is food
23:28:33  <PublicServer> <Kenji> and that's got two shared lists >_<
23:28:40  <PublicServer> <Kenji> 48/107 in one
23:29:05  <PublicServer> <persil> Hey... who is grouping Budham wood truck ? I was checking shared orders
23:29:12  <PublicServer> <Kenji> I did
23:29:17  <PublicServer> <Kenji> they were grouped and wrong
23:29:26  <PublicServer> <persil> which one ?
23:29:45  <PublicServer> <Kenji> budham wood pick
23:29:54  <PublicServer> <Kenji> dupe orders, and stand-alone trucks
23:30:02  <PublicServer> <persil> i was checking one by one by adding a fake order
23:30:14  <PublicServer> <persil> then group when it was checked
23:30:25  <PublicServer> <Kenji> all you need is the station vehicle list and the shared order list
23:30:52  <PublicServer> <Kenji> oh god..... food is in about 4 shared order lists
23:31:03  <PublicServer> <persil> ok... i were unaware of shared order list
23:31:16  <PublicServer> <Kenji> V come gimme a hand
23:31:28  <PublicServer> <Techinica> so which food truck are we sharing orders from?
23:31:41  <PublicServer> <Kenji> the one's currently grouped
23:31:48  <PublicServer> <Kenji> the oldest set
23:32:03  <PublicServer> <Techinica> okay, I'll start from the bottom
23:32:39  <PublicServer> <Kenji> I'll hit add shared every minute or so
23:33:44  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Well people, I'm off for tonight
23:33:53  <PublicServer> <Kenji> o/
23:34:19  <PublicServer> <Combuster> People have to sleep sometime :(
23:34:24  <PublicServer> <Combuster> 'night all
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23:34:41  <PublicServer> <Techinica> bah
23:34:52  <pugi> having to sleep is stupid :(
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23:35:24  <PublicServer> <Kenji> that's humanity for you
23:36:03  <PublicServer> <Kenji> grr
23:36:11  <PublicServer> <Kenji> I hate it when my source truck goes into a tunnel
23:36:44  <PublicServer> <Kenji> nearly there
23:37:22  <PublicServer> <Techinica> Done.
23:37:23  <PublicServer> <Kenji> cheers V
23:37:27  <PublicServer> <Kenji> & Tech
23:37:55  <PublicServer> <Kenji> All grouped?
23:38:02  <PublicServer> <Kenji> that seemed very quick
23:38:13  <PublicServer> <persil> yep
23:38:27  <PublicServer> <Techinica> I was clicking furiously :P
23:38:44  <PublicServer> * Kenji picks a random station
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23:39:12  <PublicServer> <Kenji> hm.. suitably impressed
23:39:14  <PublicServer> <Kenji> good work
23:39:39  <PublicServer> <Techinica> :)
23:39:51  <PublicServer> <Kenji> now let's just hope it stays this way
23:40:08  <PublicServer> <Techinica> considering it got that way in the first place... it probably wont.
23:40:14  <PublicServer> <Techinica> but there's always hope
23:41:09  <PublicServer> <Kenji> well, I think that'll do me for now
23:41:11  <PublicServer> <Kenji> o7
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23:41:40  <PublicServer> <Techinica> ooh, new gold mine
23:45:16  <PublicServer> <Sam> are you working on the new gold mine ?
23:45:29  <PublicServer> <Techinica> just figuring how I'm going to connect it.
23:47:19  <PublicServer> <Sam> i got an idea
23:49:16  <PublicServer> <Techinica> won't quite work to bridge over there.
23:49:30  <PublicServer> <Techinica> because the traffic will want to go north on M3
23:50:02  <PublicServer> <Techinica> if you bridge over it won't be possible to get onto the M3 northbound
23:50:10  <PublicServer> <Techinica> without bridging over more stuff.
23:50:15  <PublicServer> <Techinica> and creating a mess
23:50:20  <PublicServer> <Sam> uh you're right
23:50:59  <PublicServer> <Techinica> probably needs to be jumped into SLH01 somewhere
23:51:17  <PublicServer> <Techinica> entering where you said will work
23:51:22  <PublicServer> <Techinica> its just the exit that is the issue
23:51:33  <PublicServer> <Sam> yep junction gruthill is big and there is no really free space
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23:58:24  <PublicServer> <Sam> what about grouping =
23:58:27  <PublicServer> <Sam> ?
23:58:41  <PublicServer> <Techinica> in the gold group with them!
23:59:07  <PublicServer> <Sam> done
23:59:14  <PublicServer> <Techinica> awesome
23:59:34  <PublicServer> <Sam> yep it's nice
23:59:50  <PublicServer> <Techinica> not exactly worlds best place for an entry...

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