Log for #openttdcoop on 28th January 2010:
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00:00:48  <sparr> Seppel: which solution?  where I signed twice?
00:01:05  <sparr> drat, I missed Sepp
00:01:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> anyways you mean the wood exit?
00:01:25  <sparr> !password
00:01:25  <PublicServer> sparr: irking
00:01:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> quite fine improvement
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00:01:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi Ammler :)
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00:02:06  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> Hello :-)
00:02:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> what now?
00:02:26  <PublicServer> <jondisti> i prospected some oil wells
00:02:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> oil wells will die, wont they?
00:02:56  <PublicServer> <jondisti> i guess not if ratins are ok?
00:03:05  <PublicServer> <sparr> ok, I see where sepp changed my merge
00:03:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think even with good ratings ... there is a grf to disable this
00:03:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> but I am not sure
00:03:54  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> why did we use lev4 instead 2 lev3?
00:03:59  <PublicServer> <sparr> sepp cheated
00:04:04  <PublicServer> <jondisti> plan said so :(
00:04:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> Ammler: probably to make it as the original pile :(
00:04:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> I just hate that
00:04:25  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> :-D
00:04:34  <PublicServer> <jondisti> V453000: actually 1 oil well died which i had built station and trains for
00:04:34  <PublicServer> <sparr> his new W->S addition at MSH01B only goes N->W at BBH01
00:04:44  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> how many trains had pile1?
00:04:46  <PublicServer> <jondisti> i thought it was because not enough trains
00:04:51  <PublicServer> <jondisti> Amm1er: 1000+
00:04:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah
00:05:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> just a little over 1000
00:05:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> about 1016 or so
00:05:34  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> but this map looks empty
00:05:38  <PublicServer> <jondisti> not too much tweaking needed and we could have 2k
00:05:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> agreed
00:05:58  <PublicServer> <sparr> whole lot of evil at BBH01 it seems
00:06:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> ?
00:06:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> it works
00:06:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh
00:06:49  <PublicServer> <sparr> north side has 3 lines coming in
00:06:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> bbhs are renamed :D
00:07:03  <PublicServer> <jondisti> FUCK
00:07:07  <PublicServer> <sparr> bad jondisti
00:07:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh dumbasses crashed I see :D
00:07:31  <PublicServer> <jondisti> problem solved
00:07:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> they dumb - they burn
00:08:18  <PublicServer> <sparr> BBH01 has 3 lines entering from the north.  1 goes to both west exits, 1 goes to both west exits and one south exit, and 1 goes to one west exit and one south exit
00:08:55  <PublicServer> <sparr> BBH01 N->S needs a 3->2, and N->W needs more balance
00:08:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> omg you are right
00:09:13  <PublicServer> <jondisti> W->sawmill needs more lanes
00:09:16  <PublicServer> <jondisti> or lane
00:09:17  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> did xeryus really make that pbs entry?
00:09:20  <PublicServer> <sparr> at sign "/sepp" a new N->W line was added with no N->S connection
00:09:22  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> at coal drop
00:09:42  <Seppel> was my intention ;)
00:09:43  <PublicServer> <sparr> and the missing split for one of the N->W lines was always there
00:09:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes he did
00:10:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> Ammler: I was talking about it with him ... he made it .)
00:10:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> why?
00:11:17  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> just wondering, he used pbs, nothing special...
00:11:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> true :) if we ignored the pbs part we could say it is his classic entry :)
00:12:20  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> maybe a bit too much balanace ;-)
00:12:21  <PublicServer> <sparr> MSH02 has a lot more trains using one south exit than the other
00:12:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> Ammler: hehe :)
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00:13:23  <PublicServer> <jondisti> it's not balanced at all
00:13:54  <PublicServer> <sparr> trains from the station are only choosing one exit
00:14:06  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> I meant the entry
00:14:08  <PublicServer> <sparr> gonna shorten a track
00:15:01  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> hmm, you didn't alkabout coal drop I guess
00:15:22  <PublicServer> <jondisti> nope
00:15:47  <PublicServer> <jondisti> and so they like it only :-d
00:16:02  <PublicServer> <jondisti> and that's not the solution we wanted
00:16:42  <PublicServer> <jondisti> wohoo
00:16:44  <PublicServer> <sparr> MSH02 seems more balanced now
00:17:15  <PublicServer> <sparr> not entirely, but more
00:17:38  <PublicServer> <jondisti> they're using only 1 exit track
00:17:39  <PublicServer> <jondisti> still
00:17:50  <PublicServer> <sparr> nah, it's about 90:10 now :)
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00:17:59  <PublicServer> <Sietse> gonna create a jam
00:18:01  <PublicServer> <sparr> maybe as good as 75:25
00:19:58  <PublicServer> <sparr> now its a LOT shorter to use that track
00:21:31  <PublicServer> *** Amm1er has left the game (connection lost)
00:21:52  <PublicServer> <sparr> i find it funny that MSH02 was built with a east side instead of a north side, would shorten the whole path there by a hundred tiles
00:22:30  <V453000> the record amount of trains is 2522 from PZG5 ?
00:23:51  <KenjiE20> @records
00:23:51  <Webster> #openttdcoop Records: Clients: 24 | Trains: 2000 (PSG#131) - 2500 (PZG#5) | Single cargo output: 100,367 (PSG#121) | World Pop: 3,075,319 (PSG#101) 
00:24:37  <PublicServer> <jondisti> jam
00:24:39  <PublicServer> <jondisti> :(
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00:26:12  <V453000> !password
00:26:12  <PublicServer> V453000: mopped
00:26:21  <PublicServer> <jondisti> big jam
00:26:28  <KenjiE20> @records
00:26:28  <Webster> #openttdcoop Records: Clients: 24 | Trains: 2000 (PSG#131) - 2500 (PZG#5) | Single cargo output: 100,367 (PSG#121) | World Pop: 3,075,319 (PSG#101) 
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00:26:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> wher?
00:26:35  <PublicServer> <Sietse> I stopped ore drop for a few minutes
00:26:36  <KenjiE20> >_>
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00:27:13  <KenjiE20> @records
00:27:13  <Webster> #openttdcoop Records: Clients: 24 | Trains: 2000 (PSG#131) - 2522 (PZG#5) | Single cargo output: 100,367 (PSG#121) | World Pop: 3,075,319 (PSG#101) 
00:27:15  <KenjiE20> better
00:27:24  <Ammler> :-)
00:27:34  <V453000> whats the difference?
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00:28:12  <KenjiE20|LT> well the numbers are gith for one :)
00:28:14  <Ammler> Gute Nacht Liebe Koopers
00:28:19  <KenjiE20|LT> s/gith/right/
00:28:24  <V453000> cya Ammler :)
00:28:44  <V453000> Kenji: ???
00:29:31  <KenjiE20|LT> it was 2500 -> 2522 because I set it, but never went looking for the specific
00:29:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure
00:30:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> isnt important
00:30:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> I would like to replay PZG5 much more than MZG4 to be honest
00:30:56  <Chris_Booth> hello all
00:30:57  <Razaekel> MZG?
00:31:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
00:31:02  <Chris_Booth> night Ammler
00:31:12  <PublicServer> <Sietse> hey
00:31:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> Raz: Member zone game?
00:31:28  <Razaekel> what's the difference between that and PZ?
00:31:32  <Chris_Booth> V453000: i dont think you could ever replay PZG5
00:31:43  <jondisti> :D
00:31:43  <Chris_Booth> pro zone and member zone
00:31:49  <Razaekel> yea
00:31:53  <Razaekel> what's the difference?
00:31:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> CB:you mean it was too good already?
00:31:59  <Ammler> members aren't pros ;-)
00:32:00  <Chris_Booth> pro zone was formed to replace mz
00:32:08  <Chris_Booth> as mz never played
00:32:10  <Razaekel> no, it'd probably kill the players before they got to 1500
00:32:15  <Chris_Booth> not that the pros play any more
00:32:34  <KenjiE20|LT> isn't 1500 what 134 got to?
00:32:42  <Chris_Booth> some of the building I and we as a team did in PZ 05 was epic
00:32:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is
00:32:44  <KenjiE20|LT> the last 1024^
00:32:48  <Ammler> a nice MZ gaem:
00:32:59  <Razaekel> not like the PZ server is up anymore
00:33:10  <Chris_Booth> Razaekel: it is
00:33:13  <Ammler> no request for PZ game
00:33:18  <Chris_Booth> we just need a new game
00:33:23  <Chris_Booth> the last one has finished
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00:33:28  <Razaekel> it's not in the channel
00:33:33  <Chris_Booth> all it needs is an archive
00:33:35  <Chris_Booth> and a new map
00:33:47  <Chris_Booth> it can be put back on in very little time
00:34:03  <Chris_Booth> Razaekel: if you want a game make a map and suggest it
00:34:24  <Razaekel> i would just randomly generate a desert map and use that
00:34:48  <V453000> is there any possibility how I could participate in a PZ game?
00:35:21  <Razaekel> i dunno
00:35:26  <Razaekel> you kinda have to be a pro :-P
00:35:38  <V453000> well how is that defined :p
00:35:45  <PublicServer> <jondisti> we need 3rd line between MSH03B and BBH21
00:35:52  <Chris_Booth> V453000: when you one say ight pro
00:35:57  <Chris_Booth> want to play with us
00:35:58  <PublicServer> <jondisti> but i'm not gonna stay here this time till 5 am
00:36:09  <Chris_Booth> jondisti: leave it until tomoz
00:36:14  <PublicServer> <jondisti> yep
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00:36:26  <Ammler> V453000: you are a pro compared with Razaekel ;-)
00:36:27  <Razaekel> !archive 131
00:36:27  <PublicServer> Razaekel: http://www.openttdcoop.ORG/wiki/PublicServer:Archive | |
00:36:35  <KenjiE20|LT> @psgsave 131
00:36:35  <Webster> PSG 131 Archive entry;
00:36:38  <V453000> Ammler: :D
00:36:42  <Razaekel> thanks kenji
00:37:00  <Razaekel> of course, it doesnt work >.<
00:37:02  <jondisti> i'd like to play pro zone too!
00:37:12  <Ammler> I guess ps131 is the same as pz5 iirc
00:37:21  <Chris_Booth> jondisti: you need an invite
00:37:38  <Ammler> first we need a game to invite you to
00:38:16  <Chris_Booth> yeah @ Ammler
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00:38:48  <sietse> darn... all gone..
00:39:09  <Chris_Booth> sietse: we havent all gone
00:39:11  <Chris_Booth> i can join
00:39:19  <Chris_Booth> !password
00:39:19  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: brooms
00:39:38  <Razaekel> !pzgsave 5
00:39:43  <Razaekel> !pzsave 5
00:39:45  <Razaekel> :-(
00:39:58  <sietse> @
00:40:57  <Chris_Booth> !password
00:40:57  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: brooms
00:41:00  <KenjiE20|LT> no bind for that
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00:41:20  <PublicServer> <Sietse> the saviour!
00:41:22  <Chris_Booth> it is in the blog though
00:41:30  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> where do you want me
00:41:51  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> WTF jam at BBH 01
00:42:17  <PublicServer> <Sietse> build by you :)
00:42:40  <jondisti> modified by some others :P
00:43:45  <PublicServer> <Sietse> I didn't locate the problem yet, but Chris is already solving the issue :)
00:44:02  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i am on it
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00:51:34  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ok that will fix that jam
00:51:41  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> what an effort that was
00:51:47  <PublicServer> <Sietse> nice work
00:51:48  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i got it wrong 2 or 3 times lol
00:52:22  <PublicServer> <Sietse> it is confusing with all those lines
00:53:19  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ok any mroe jams?
00:53:48  <PublicServer> <Sietse> most look pretty solid atm
00:54:09  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> BBH 11 isnt to great
00:54:43  <PublicServer> <Sietse> I have build most of it
00:54:44  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ok Sietsedo you agree with me this game is now complete~?
00:54:46  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ?
00:54:58  <PublicServer> <Sietse> only one merger is not finished
00:55:06  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> where?
00:55:09  <PublicServer> <Sietse> can u tell me the issues of BBH11?
00:55:20  <PublicServer> <Sietse> S -> E
00:55:51  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> its not a major issue
00:55:57  <PublicServer> <Sietse> true
00:56:15  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> they just need to have a main stream
00:56:32  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and the small jam that come every few mins will never appear again
00:56:34  <PublicServer> <Sietse> also not much traffic
00:56:53  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i wouldnt worry about it
00:56:58  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i said small issue
00:57:07  <PublicServer> <Sietse> what are the other points?
00:57:19  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> nothing else
00:57:23  <PublicServer> <Sietse> Since I created most of it you might have some interesting tips :)
00:57:24  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> just looks fine
00:57:40  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> its big
00:57:47  <PublicServer> <Sietse> ye
00:57:56  <PublicServer> <Sietse> that hill won
00:58:01  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and has one very bad bridge
00:58:05  <PublicServer> <Sietse> won't help towards size
00:58:18  <PublicServer> <Sietse> desync bridge
00:58:34  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> you have bad signals and a desync in one place
00:59:21  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but thats it mate
00:59:25  <PublicServer> <Sietse> ok
00:59:44  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> can you do me a favour now?
00:59:53  <PublicServer> <Sietse> depends on what :)
01:00:04  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> write the archive for this game
01:00:27  <PublicServer> <Sietse> ok, if I have any example how to do that
01:00:36  <V453000> shall I do that? :)
01:02:32  <V453000> I will at least write it for 172 right now
01:02:38  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i
01:02:51  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i am proud of how well my BBH 01 has stood up
01:03:10  <PublicServer> <Sietse> are there any guidelines available?
01:03:20  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> copy and old archive
01:03:27  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> all the wiki code is the same
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01:04:39  <sietse> hmmm
01:04:45  <sietse> not experienced with wikis
01:04:48  <V453000> simple isnt it? :)
01:04:50  <sietse> but let's give it a shot
01:04:55  <V453000> ye
01:05:03  <KenjiE20|LT> copy from line break {{ to }} line break
01:05:08  <KenjiE20|LT> and change the numbers
01:05:17  <KenjiE20|LT> !save
01:05:17  <PublicServer> Saving game...
01:05:18  <V453000> ok I will do the PSG 172 description etc tomorrow ...
01:05:20  <PublicServer> Game saved
01:05:47  <KenjiE20|LT> FYI; it'll probably sit as-is till mid-afternoon tomorrow
01:06:02  <Chris_Booth> KenjiE20|LT: we need a new map
01:06:03  <jondisti> but... i'm off now
01:06:07  <Chris_Booth> and people to arrive
01:06:07  <KenjiE20|LT> unless someone else has a mad burst of activity and builds a map
01:06:08  <jondisti> nite
01:06:10  <Chris_Booth> as its no biggy
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01:06:20  <KenjiE20|LT> CB I have one, it just needs updating
01:06:36  <Chris_Booth> KenjiE20|LT: i can make you a nice map (but if you have one there is no point)
01:06:44  <V453000> why dont we just grab a map with some grf and random it?
01:07:27  <KenjiE20|LT> how d'you think we normally do it? :P
01:09:38  <V453000> yeah of course ... just that at every end of game I often hear "have you created a map?" "there is no new map to play" and so on
01:09:52  <V453000> which would look like it takes a long time
01:09:58  <KenjiE20|LT> because there's still the effort of cross checking GRFs
01:10:22  <KenjiE20|LT> plus the setup time to run/begin it
01:10:50  <V453000> true ...
01:11:11  <V453000> for example if I had to be the one I would firstly have to fix my config
01:11:17  <V453000> and that would take some time :D
01:11:32  <KenjiE20|LT> yea
01:20:32  <sietse> do i just need to create something like this: {{Archive_PublicServer|Public Server Game 172|01.01.10-19.01.10| {{User|Mark}} | [[Gametype:Cargo_concept|Cargo]] | TLx | 512 x 512 Sub-Tropical | r18758 [[GRF|#openttdcoop-GRF-Pack 7.3]] | Game Desc |172|File:PSG172.png|Picture Desc. }}
01:20:40  <sietse> ?
01:20:45  <KenjiE20|LT> yup
01:20:48  <sietse> ok
01:20:58  <KenjiE20|LT> spam the preview button, till it looks right
01:21:22  <sietse> ok
01:26:15  <V453000> I remember my first wiki post not so long ago :D
01:26:30  <V453000> didnt know what the preview is actually good for
01:34:08  <sietse> heheh
01:34:24  <sietse> only a screenshot needed
01:34:47  <sietse> it's gonna feature the sick sawmill station area
01:35:23  <V453000> I would vote for Marks hub even though it is not the most busy place
01:35:45  <V453000> but do as you want :) it doesnt really matter much
01:36:00  <sietse> what zoomlevel is appropriate for the wiki?
01:36:16  <V453000> as you want I would say
01:36:19  <KenjiE20|LT> 'tever works
01:37:46  <V453000> I wanted to say "What about to put the same area as from the original pile" but then I looked what it is :D factory
01:39:25  <V453000> and that I wouldnt really want to put in the screen :D
01:40:44  <sietse> weeeeh
01:40:46  <sietse> done it :)
01:40:52  <sietse> first wiki page ever!!
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01:42:06  <V453000> I will just edit a bit, right?
01:42:11  <KenjiE20|LT> game date was 19th
01:42:20  <KenjiE20|LT> as shown by the previous entry :P
01:42:25  <V453000> :)
01:42:29  <KenjiE20|LT> it's also temperate
01:42:33  <V453000> you editing already Kenji?
01:42:34  <sietse> go ahead
01:42:36  <V453000> yeah I wanted to say that
01:42:43  <KenjiE20|LT> not logged in I don't think
01:42:54  <V453000> ok
01:43:16  <KenjiE20|LT> otherwise, good entry
01:43:21  <V453000> when Sietse is here it is fine :) he could edit it
01:43:33  <V453000> I thought he left ... but that was only from game
01:43:34  <KenjiE20|LT> V453000: make PZ04 a like wouldja
01:43:49  <KenjiE20|LT> link*
01:44:19  <V453000> ?
01:44:28  <V453000> oh so
01:44:32  <KenjiE20|LT> yea
01:44:33  <V453000> ok
01:44:37  <sietse> brb
01:44:45  <KenjiE20|LT> lol
01:45:14  <V453000> should I link to the archive page or the savegame already? I think archive page
01:45:23  <KenjiE20|LT> achive
01:45:35  <KenjiE20|LT> archive
01:45:38  <KenjiE20|LT> >_<
01:48:02  <V453000> did we have any builders board
01:48:08  <V453000> or should I try to remember?
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01:49:34  <PublicServer> db48x: spewed
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01:53:59  <V453000> ok finished
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07:59:09  <mitooo> hey :)
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08:02:47  <PublicServer> JamesG: legals
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11:58:00  <KenjiE20> O.o
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12:07:10  <planetmaker> uh?
12:07:22  <KenjiE20> what IS going on?
12:07:31  <planetmaker> my question :-) No idea
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12:08:08  <KenjiE20> oh Ammler ?
12:08:19  <KenjiE20> I saw a 'sreenshot'
12:08:32  <planetmaker> I guess. Someone is editing the cfg :-)
12:08:42  <planetmaker> Ammler, ^^ ?
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12:09:22  <KenjiE20> @admin ignore PublicServer!*@*
12:09:27  <planetmaker> ok... "closed down by admin" is understandable. But... "connection lost" is not.
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12:09:37  <Ammler> KenjiE20: too late :-P
12:09:42  <KenjiE20> you done?
12:10:37  <Ammler> no :-(
12:10:50  <KenjiE20> @admin ignore add PublicServer!*@*
12:10:50  <Webster> KenjiE20: The operation succeeded.
12:10:52  <Ammler> but is that bad, someone likes to play?
12:10:54  <KenjiE20> :D
12:11:04  <KenjiE20> it'll stop the topic spam
12:12:04  <Ammler> tried to enable "webcam" :-)
12:12:51  <KenjiE20> I guessed
12:13:17  <mitooo> aahhh! people :D
12:13:52  * KenjiE20 hides behind the door
12:14:11  <KenjiE20> ain't no one here but us dustballs
12:19:14  <Ammler>
12:19:24  <Ammler> !rcon scrollto 0x5643
12:19:33  <Ammler> !rcon screenshot
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12:20:16  <KenjiE20> hmm
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12:20:23  <KenjiE20> getting there then
12:20:36  <Ammler> !rcon screenshot
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12:25:21  <Ammler> !info
12:25:21  <PublicServer> Ammler: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Pile Transport 2.0'  Year Founded: 1950  Money: 877045810243  Loan: 0  Value: 877415725358  (T:1486, R:4, P:0, S:0) unprotected
12:25:25  <Ammler> !rcon screenshot
12:25:48  <Ammler> !rcon rm screenshot.png
12:25:48  <PublicServer> Ammler: screenshot.png: No such file or directory.
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12:28:31  <mitooo> 87 blliion? o_O
12:29:10  <KenjiE20> probably average
12:29:23  <KenjiE20> no one's ever bothered by that
12:30:21  <Ammler> !screen
12:31:58  <Ammler> !screen
12:31:58  <PublicServer> *** Ammler made screenshot:
12:32:43  <KenjiE20> ^ that's wrong
12:32:55  <KenjiE20> almost entirely
12:33:43  <Ammler> :-D
12:33:51  <hylje> screen-t-shot
12:34:00  <Ammler> !rcon scrollto 0xaf01
12:34:03  <Ammler> !screen
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12:34:15  <KenjiE20> nice
12:34:25  <Ammler> try it :-)
12:34:32  <KenjiE20> I've got it
12:34:43  <KenjiE20> it's working, which is the nice bit
12:34:46  <Ammler> I mean, try to find a location :-P
12:35:17  <KenjiE20> !rcon scrollto 0x95b
12:35:19  <Ammler> hmm, I could grep for last action and make a screen of that
12:35:25  <KenjiE20> !rcon screenshot
12:35:32  <KenjiE20> !screen
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12:35:47  <KenjiE20> hmm, that's an edge
12:35:55  <KenjiE20> !rcon scrollto 0x3332c
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12:35:58  <KenjiE20> !screen
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12:36:34  <KenjiE20> !rcon scrollto 0xaafb0
12:36:37  <KenjiE20> !screen
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12:36:44  <KenjiE20> stuff
12:36:55  <KenjiE20> and a wall of text
12:36:58  <KenjiE20> but stuff
12:37:10  <Ammler> is it possible to grep a file from bottom?
12:37:31  <KenjiE20> "tail -n <lines> | grep " ?
12:37:32  <Ammler> the first docommand and than a sed :-)
12:38:02  <KenjiE20> grep might have a reverse order
12:38:19  <Ammler> I need just one line
12:38:23  <Ammler> maybe something with seed
12:40:34  <Ammler> !screen
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12:42:08  <Ammler> shouldn't no_con remove the chat etc?
12:42:26  <KenjiE20> chat isn't the console though
12:42:59  <Ammler> I thought, it removes the whole console
12:43:04  <Ammler> gui I mean
12:43:12  <Ammler> but anyway, better so
12:44:03  <KenjiE20> no, no_con would be so you can remove the console when you use the command
12:44:15  <KenjiE20> because how else would the average player trigger that
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12:50:19  <Ammler> ctrl-something
12:50:23  <Ammler> but true :-)
12:53:57  <Ammler> then we could link the screenshot generator to the password changer
12:54:30  <KenjiE20> !save
12:54:30  <PublicServer> Saving game...
12:54:33  <PublicServer> Game saved
13:09:28  <Chris_Booth> afternoon all
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13:57:37  <Ammler>
13:57:52  <Ammler> tcl pros, please help
13:58:38  <Ammler> I need to "scan" for such lines: [2010-01-24 17:04:54]          CmdRemoveSingleSignal      Chris Booth  date:2235-05-28  tile:0005E929  p1:00000001 p2:00000000 text: price:603" -> tile:0005E929
14:02:26  <Chris_Booth> Ammler: why that line?
14:02:30  <Chris_Booth> what did i do?
14:02:49  <Ammler> BAD GUY!
14:03:01  <Chris_Booth> all i did was remove a signal
14:03:07  <Chris_Booth> you are just picking on me lol
14:03:09  <Chris_Booth> i am telling
14:03:10  <Chris_Booth> :P
14:03:12  <Ammler> !screen
14:03:13  <PublicServer> *** Ammler made screenshot:
14:03:18  <Ammler> I like it for that ^
14:03:58  <Chris_Booth> that a very small screen there Ammler
14:04:14  <Ammler> that is default openttd size
14:04:43  <Chris_Booth> i am using 1900 x 1080 as my openttd size atm
14:04:47  <Chris_Booth> i can see alot of map
14:05:28  <Ammler> nice, but how does that help me to modify autopilot.tcl?
14:05:50  <Chris_Booth> it doesnt
14:06:04  <Chris_Booth> why do you want to scan for those lines?
14:06:17  <Ammler> so we can watch you better
14:06:52  <Ammler> my idea is to make a screen of last action location
14:06:54  <Chris_Booth> why dont we use a timelaps patch anymore to record the game?
14:07:30  <planetmaker> it needed a client constantly online. And a person maintaining that patch ;-)
14:07:32  <Razaekel> huh
14:07:49  <Razaekel> can't the server watch it?
14:07:59  <planetmaker> and a person which does *something* with the gigabytes of images
14:08:02  <Ammler> watch what?
14:08:15  <Razaekel> for the timelapse
14:08:16  <Chris_Booth> the map to map a game overview
14:08:52  <Ammler> <-- one of these maps needs around 1GB space :-)
14:08:59  <Razaekel> yea
14:09:53  <Razaekel> ok
14:10:33  <Razaekel> i wonder if it's possible to use the build log to make a movie
14:10:51  <Ammler> should be
14:11:05  <Ammler> no, it isn't
14:11:14  <Ammler> you might need the random seed, dunno
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14:11:38  <kratt> Good morning
14:11:40  <kratt> !players
14:11:42  <PublicServer> kratt: There are currently no clients connected to the server
14:12:40  <mitooo> morning (or afternoon :p) :)
14:12:55  <Ammler> Fuco: Fuco Fuco
14:13:11  <Razaekel> well
14:13:17  <Ammler> I need your TCL skills :-)
14:13:25  <Fuco> uh
14:13:29  <Razaekel> that line up above has the command and location
14:13:30  <Ammler> :-D
14:13:47  <Razaekel> so if it's like that for everything in the game
14:14:18  <Ammler> I have no clue how the radomizer works....
14:14:31  <Ammler> Fuco:
14:14:35  <Ammler> [14:57] <Ammler>
14:14:36  <Ammler> [14:57] <Ammler> tcl pros, please help
14:14:38  <Ammler> [14:58] <Ammler> I need to "scan" for such lines: [2010-01-24 17:04:54]          CmdRemoveSingleSignal      Chris Booth  date:2235-05-28  tile:0005E929  p1:00000001 p2:00000000 text: price:603" -> tile:0005E929
14:15:15  <KenjiE20> Razaekel: no, no orders
14:15:29  <Fuco> scan for lines and then do what
14:15:40  <Ammler> write the value of tile to a var
14:16:00  <Razaekel> ah, good point kenji
14:16:07  <kratt> well ammler
14:16:12  <kratt> do you use 32bpp
14:16:13  <Chris_Booth> Ammler: just one question what is lots of pople are ubilding and you are getting 100's of vaules a seconds?
14:16:35  <Ammler> I don't make the screen on every client
14:16:43  <Chris_Booth> just me?
14:16:45  <Ammler> but I use the var for the screen location
14:16:51  <Ammler> Chris_Booth: of course, just you.
14:16:59  <Chris_Booth> yay me
14:17:06  <Chris_Booth> its only coz i am so amazing
14:17:10  <Chris_Booth> and you to see how i do it
14:17:59  <Ammler> I will rename it to boothshot.png
14:18:16  <KenjiE20> All Booth All the time
14:21:12  <Chris_Booth> wicked i would love that
14:22:11  <Chris_Booth> Ammler + KenjiE20: you could make booth png and make it a guide on how to build
14:23:06  <KenjiE20>
14:23:07  <Webster> Title: YouTube - Futurama - Bender - GirlFriends Trust (at
14:24:03  <Chris_Booth> KenjiE20: love Futurama
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14:24:28  <Ammler> he, Blender sounds much better in German :-)
14:25:02  <KenjiE20> tbh need a vid with just the "oh wait" bit
14:25:03  <Chris_Booth> realy?
14:25:04  <Fuco> Ammler: tile is always 8 chars long (like this 0005E929)?
14:25:16  <Ammler> Fuco: I guess so
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14:25:27  <Chris_Booth> Ammler: how is bender better in german?
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14:26:14  <Ammler> Chris_Booth: they used a bettter voice for him
14:26:19  <mitooo> !players
14:26:20  <PublicServer> mitooo: Client 7 is Thraxian, a spectator
14:26:34  <planetmaker> tralala
14:26:41  <Ammler> mäh
14:26:49  <mitooo> hey :)
14:26:59  <KenjiE20> he's got the voice pretty similar
14:27:06  <mitooo> btw, are we in the same game?
14:27:36  <Ammler> mitooo: you aren't
14:29:03  <Fuco> Ammler: i think this should do it:
14:29:21  <Fuco> I don't have TCL installed now so can't test, but it's fairly simple
14:29:39  <Fuco> the number is in $tile var
14:30:18  <Ammler> Fuco: can I use Cmd* instead of CmdRemoveSingleSignal?
14:30:36  <Ammler> or Cmd.*
14:31:05  <Fuco> you can probably just use Cmd
14:31:10  <Fuco> it's not RE
14:31:24  <Fuco> this is just plain oldschool substring match
14:31:44  <Fuco> string first returns index of the first occurence of the substring
14:31:59  <Fuco> and to test if it's start of the line we check if the index is 0
14:33:02  <Fuco> you can then also remove the {} around the {CmdRemoveSingleSignal }, those are there to match the space character at the end
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14:35:05  <jondisti> !password
14:35:05  <PublicServer> jondisti: morbid
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14:36:46  <Ammler> !players
14:36:48  <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 7 is Thraxian, a spectator
14:36:48  <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 8 (Orange) is jondisti, in company 1 (Pile Transport 2.0)
14:37:03  <Ammler> do you mind me restarting the server (again)?
14:37:53  <Ammler> Fuco: then it might be better to look for "tile:"?
14:38:06  <mitooo> are you experiencing problems?
14:38:22  <Fuco> Ammler, if you want to check *every* line with tile: in it, then yes
14:38:28  <Fuco> but it will also catch user chat messages
14:38:31  <Fuco> with "tile:" in it
14:38:49  <jondisti> what's going on?
14:40:03  <Ammler> Fuco: possible to search for both something like "Cmd*tile:" in glob
14:40:55  <Fuco> with RE it is, the question is why you need RE when you can do without
14:41:41  <Ammler> not every line with Cmd has tile:
14:42:11  <Ammler> why should someone use tile: in the chat?
14:42:20  <Fuco> i dont know ;d
14:42:23  <Ammler> he, we have to ban nick tile :-)
14:42:52  <Fuco> you can add if {$start != -1} { set tile ... }
14:43:04  <Fuco> that means tile: was not found in the line
14:43:17  <planetmaker> <-- Ammler should I offer them the use of the devzone (again)? Or ... just let them re-invent the wheel?
14:43:19  <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums • View topic - Organizing 32bpp sprites (at
14:43:52  <Ammler> planetmaker: there is also the jupix repo, we shouldn't competive that
14:43:56  <planetmaker> Ben_Robbins basically proposes awrite ccess by a number of devs to a repo
14:44:38  <planetmaker> Ammler, yes... but they just discuss how to make it easier to handle ;-) But I guess, you're right. I'll leave it at that. I just wondered also as he complained yesterday about insufficient bandwidth and costs...
14:47:53  <Ammler> someone should define a "supporting file for the pngs with the offsets"
14:48:51  <kratt> !password
14:48:51  <PublicServer> kratt: seaman
14:49:26  <Thraxian|Work> what does "No clients left" mean in the STAGE: part of the topic?
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14:49:37  <PublicServer> <kratt> hey
14:49:47  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> hi kratt
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14:52:17  <PublicServer> Server closed down by admin
14:52:17  <PublicServer> Saving game...
14:52:19  <PublicServer> Game saved
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14:52:44  <kratt> server closed?
14:52:50  <kratt> why
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14:53:06  <PublicServer> Loading default savegame
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14:53:06  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #173 (r18867) | STAGE: No clients left -> finalizing | | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: | Coopetition ladder:"
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14:54:33  <Ammler> Fuco:
14:54:53  <Ammler> KenjiE20: didn't you disable the PS for Webster?
14:55:36  <Ammler>
14:55:47  <kratt> what is autopilot?
14:56:31  <Ammler> @wiki Autopilot
14:56:34  <Webster> Autopilot - #openttdcoop Wiki -
14:56:59  <Ammler> kratt: the "bigbrother" of our openttd server
14:57:26  <KenjiE20> I un-ignored it again
14:57:31  <Thraxian|Work> have any of you ever looked at the scenario "Rusty Paradise" in the Online Content?
14:57:49  <Thraxian|Work> that scenario looks AWESOME.  I wouldn't mind playing something similar (on a slighly larger scale) on the PS
14:57:55  <kratt> ye i read all that
14:58:04  <kratt> that is pretty impressive
14:58:10  <Fuco> that's weird
14:58:28  <Ammler> the 2nd paste is snippet from the code
14:58:54  <Fuco> ah well
14:59:00  <Fuco> there's no if
14:59:13  <Fuco> "if {$start != -1} { set tile ... }"
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14:59:36  <Ammler> yeah, just thought the same
14:59:50  <kratt> !password
14:59:50  <PublicServer> kratt: awakes
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15:00:16  <Ammler> !screen
15:00:23  <kratt> !screen
15:00:23  <PublicServer> kratt: you must be channel op to use !screen
15:00:27  <kratt> op :D
15:01:19  <planetmaker> Where is the image saved, Ammler ?
15:01:38  <Ammler> now, how to use that var again?
15:02:21  <Ammler> didn't work
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15:02:56  <Ammler> !screen
15:04:26  <Fuco> $varname
15:04:31  <mitooo> still in the n°173, FMinternet connection
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15:04:57  <Ammler> [::ap::callback] autopilot/scripts/irc/screen.tcl failed with can't read "lastactionlocation": no such variable
15:05:06  <Ammler> somehow I need to get the scope?
15:05:09  <Fuco> yea
15:06:14  <Ammler> !screen
15:06:42  <Fuco> you will probably need to create a method in the module where you want to use that var, and set it via that method
15:06:52  <Fuco> i don't know how globals or scope works in tcl
15:08:06  <PublicServer> <jondisti> kratt: have you ever heard of cloning trains?
15:08:07  <Ammler> !screen
15:10:27  <PublicServer> *** kratt has left the game (connection lost)
15:10:32  <kratt> laggy
15:11:14  <Ammler> !screen
15:11:43  <mitooo> kratt: welcome in the club :)
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15:21:00  <Ammler> !screen
15:27:05  <Ammler> Restart?
15:27:10  <Ammler> please :'-(
15:27:23  <jondisti> what ever :P
15:27:30  <PublicServer> Server closed down by admin
15:27:30  <PublicServer> Saving game...
15:27:33  <PublicServer> Game saved
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15:27:51  <PublicServer> Loading default savegame
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15:28:47  <Ammler> !screen
15:28:47  <PublicServer> *** Ammler made screenshot at 000C846B :
15:28:57  <Ammler> yes :-)
15:29:19  <mitooo> \o/ :)
15:30:15  <Ammler> !screen
15:30:15  <PublicServer> *** Ammler made screenshot at 0007B65D :
15:31:29  <Ammler> so you work somewhere and someone is listening here, he just need to type screen :-)
15:31:43  <Ammler> !rcon set resolution
15:31:43  <PublicServer> Ammler: 'resolution' is an unknown setting.
15:32:16  <Ammler> !rcon set misc.resolution
15:32:16  <PublicServer> Ammler: 'misc.resolution' is an unknown setting.
15:32:33  <Ammler> you can't change resolution on a running game?
15:32:56  <Ammler> !screen
15:32:56  <PublicServer> *** Ammler made screenshot at 0007B647 :
15:33:19  <jondisti> what if there are 5 guys working 5 different locations?
15:33:24  <Ammler> Seppel: rebuilding at Sedingworth?
15:33:32  <Seppel> impressive
15:33:38  <PublicServer> <Sepp> just some prio work
15:34:14  <Ammler> jondisti: the last action before you type !screen
15:34:22  <Seppel> so ist luck who u get
15:34:27  <Seppel> its
15:34:29  <jondisti> ok... so better use that one only when it's quiet
15:34:39  <Ammler> why?
15:34:48  <Ammler> shouldn't matter
15:35:00  <mitooo> ... kinda shit that i can't join the game
15:35:06  <jondisti> !password
15:35:06  <PublicServer> jondisti: waxier
15:35:10  <Ammler> !screen
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15:36:04  <Ammler> dear fellow members, is this feature useful? (needs another patch)
15:36:20  <jondisti> i wanted to show you what i'm doing but it took Seppel's work :(
15:36:32  <Ammler> he is busier :-P
15:36:39  <Seppel> didnt do anything i guess
15:36:43  <jondisti> so that's what i meant to use it only when it's quiet :P
15:36:51  <Ammler> !screen
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15:36:58  <jondisti> that's me
15:37:28  <Ammler> where is the location you worked? the center?
15:37:39  <jondisti> just somewhere in north
15:37:47  <Ammler> I mean on the screen
15:38:03  <jondisti> not center
15:38:35  <jondisti> upper left corner or something
15:39:56  <jondisti> does the server know by who is last action made by?
15:40:34  <Ammler> yes.
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15:40:52  <Ammler> we have a log about every action from every single client
15:40:54  <jondisti> make it save like 10 last screen shots and put name on it
15:41:39  <jondisti> in the filename
15:43:19  <Ammler> gimme patch and I will :-)
15:43:59  <jondisti> i'm just a customer who wants better service :P
15:44:39  <Ammler> I have used the full support credits for this year already from Fuco ;-)
15:45:26  <jondisti> :)
15:45:37  <Ammler> Fuco: btw., I just defined the namespace like set ::location
15:45:50  <Ammler> and then used it with $::location
15:45:51  <Fuco> oh, cool
15:51:39  <Seppel> !screen
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15:52:43  <Thorinbur> !players
15:52:44  <PublicServer> Thorinbur: Client 3 (Orange) is Sepp, in company 1 (Pile Transport 2.0)
15:52:44  <PublicServer> Thorinbur: Client 6 (Orange) is jondisti, in company 1 (Pile Transport 2.0)
15:53:02  <PublicServer> *** jondisti has changed his/her name to jond1sti
15:53:03  <kratt> pretty good
15:53:08  <kratt> it is working
15:53:13  <kratt> !password
15:53:13  <PublicServer> kratt: golfed
15:53:19  <Seppel> mhh is it kinda delayed ?
15:53:35  <jondisti> no
15:53:40  <jondisti> i moved a signal there :)
15:53:49  <Seppel> oh thats why xD
15:54:03  <Thorinbur> I am still optimistic... Maybe i will menage to stay!
15:54:11  <jondisti> i tried to PM that command and still it informed it here
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15:54:28  <PublicServer> <Sepp> oh i see the singal xD
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15:55:21  <Ammler> !screen
15:55:21  <PublicServer> *** Ammler made screenshot at 0007BA51 :
15:55:31  <kratt> !screen
15:55:31  <PublicServer> *** kratt made screenshot at 0007BA51 :
15:55:50  <kratt> mhh
15:56:01  <kratt> i want to make screen where im looking
15:56:09  <Seppel> u have to build something
15:56:12  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Where is somthing happening?
15:56:12  <Ammler> then place I sign
15:56:26  <Ammler> or whatevery, just do a action
15:56:52  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> not here, in IRC :P
15:56:58  <kratt> !screen
15:56:58  <PublicServer> *** kratt made screenshot at 000AF5F7 :
15:57:10  <kratt> k its working
15:57:19  <kratt> but what happens when i make multiple things
15:57:28  <Ammler> what should happen?
15:57:32  <jondisti> last one is what matters
15:57:39  <PublicServer> <Sepp> last one still remains the last one ? xD
15:57:45  <V453000> why dont you use just the ctrl S
15:58:01  <Seppel> oO
15:58:15  <jondisti> V453000: that doesn't download it to any server automatically :(
15:58:17  <jondisti> upload!
15:58:29  <V453000> yeah but why do you need to upload such a screen
15:58:43  <Ammler> I should make the screens a bit bigger (800x600)
15:58:46  <Seppel> u can see what happens ingame without being there ?
15:58:47  <V453000> this doesnt show anything :)
15:58:55  <jondisti>  <Ammler> so you work somewhere and someone is listening here, he just need to type screen :-)
15:58:58  <V453000> oh you mean in general probably
15:59:02  <V453000> ok whatever
15:59:11  <Ammler> jondisti: e.g.
15:59:30  <Thraxian|Work> Ammler: if you make bigger screenshots, can you keep the same camera angle in successive shots?
15:59:30  <Ammler> well, !screen is more a "debug" command
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15:59:44  <Ammler> Thraxian|Work: ?
16:00:06  <Thraxian|Work> like doing 800x600, divide the map into a bunch of 800x600 sections, and always center the camera onto the center tile of one of those sections
16:00:07  <Thorinbur> !screen
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16:00:31  <kratt> laggy
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16:00:34  <Thraxian|Work> or is that a different project?
16:00:47  <Ammler> and disabling the news...
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16:01:09  <Thraxian|Work> is there a way to screenshot and remove all GUI elements (toolbars, windows, etc)?
16:01:23  <Thorinbur> Interesting.
16:01:28  <Ammler> Thraxian|Work: you mean that:
16:01:29  <Thraxian|Work> or do you want some of those elements displayed, for tutorial purposes perhaps
16:02:38  <Thraxian|Work> Ammler: kind of.  If the map is composed of a bunch of 800x600 sectors, then the screen command would take a screenshot of one of those sectors
16:03:05  <Thraxian|Work> if it does it based on last construction, then figure out which sector the construction was done in, and screenshot that sector (using that sector's center coordinate as the center of the screenshot)
16:03:08  <Ammler> ah, you mean simplyfy the location coordinates?
16:03:28  <Thraxian|Work> I think so
16:03:52  <Ammler> so you can make a movie at the end with the screens?
16:03:52  <Thraxian|Work> if we divided the map into 100x100 sectors, screenshots would always be taken centered on coordinates ?50x?50
16:04:10  <Thraxian|Work> basically, yes.  and if a sector doesn't change, it doesn't get a new screenshot
16:04:23  <Ammler> nice idea
16:04:25  <Thraxian|Work> = fewer maps = smaller size
16:04:37  <Thraxian|Work> best case, reduce sector size to 1x1
16:04:41  <Ammler> maybe it would be enough to make one screen per month
16:04:46  <Thraxian|Work> then you have TONS of images, but all very small
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16:05:26  <Ammler> BUT YES, this is another project :-)
16:05:32  <Thraxian|Work> I figured as much :)
16:06:11  <Ammler> we will soon update to Avignon, maybe Osai can make us such a plugin ;-)
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16:07:39  <Ammler> !screen is nice :-)
16:07:39  <PublicServer> *** Ammler made screenshot at 00077659 :
16:07:44  <mitooo> what is avignon, but a french city?
16:08:03  <planetmaker> !screen
16:08:03  <PublicServer> *** planetmaker made screenshot at 00077659 :
16:08:23  <planetmaker> hm... how is the centre tile determined?
16:08:49  <Ammler> it does "scrollto 0x$::lastactionlocation"
16:08:57  <Ammler> then "screenshot"
16:09:20  <planetmaker> can I set a tile?
16:09:28  <Ammler> so last action is the upper left corner, afaik
16:09:30  <planetmaker> in the command?
16:09:30  <Chris_Booth> Ammler: turn the news off
16:09:33  <Chris_Booth> that is annoying
16:09:41  <planetmaker> and Chris is right ;-)
16:10:11  <Ammler> planetmaker: I could make that as a parameter for the custom command
16:10:57  <Ammler> and we should have a formula to calculate the location so last action is the center of the image
16:11:24  <planetmaker> isn't it now the centre of the image?
16:11:34  <Ammler> [17:09] <Ammler> so last action is the upper left corner, afaik
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16:11:58  <Ammler> planetmaker: it is how scrollto works on your local maschine
16:11:59  <planetmaker> oh, thx :-P
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16:17:07  <Ammler> !screen
16:19:16  <Ammler> !screen
16:19:16  <PublicServer> *** Ammler made screenshot at 0002B226 :
16:19:20  <Ammler> !screen
16:19:20  <PublicServer> *** Ammler liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (
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16:22:44  <Ammler> !screen
16:22:44  <PublicServer> *** Ammler liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (
16:23:35  <Ammler> he, if no action is taken, it could switch to another sign maybe?
16:24:30  <Ammler> a command like "scrolltosign *BBH01*"  would be nice
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16:27:12  <Ammler> ähm, shall we archive the game and start a new one?
16:27:26  <jondisti> yes
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16:35:08  <Ammler> jondisti: the game like it is now, can we archive it?
16:35:10  <Ammler> no issues?
16:35:45  <Ammler> any need for updating openttd?
16:36:15  <mitooo> what is meaning "upgrading openttd"?
16:36:22  <Ammler> newest nightly
16:36:31  <V453000> I doubt updating would change the lag issues
16:36:38  <Ammler> lag issue?
16:36:45  <Phazorx> lag issue?
16:36:58  <V453000> it happens quite often lately that people have lag
16:37:18  <V453000> they disconnect, rarely synchronization fails ...
16:37:33  <V453000> last game was also very laggy
16:38:07  <KenjiE20> Ammler: update anyway
16:38:29  <KenjiE20> always better if we find bugs
16:38:50  <V453000> :)
16:39:05  <mitooo> v453000: is your internet connexion fast?
16:39:46  * planetmaker seconds KenjiE20 
16:40:02  <planetmaker> (is that correct English?)
16:40:21  <planetmaker> or would it have to read "backs up" or alike?
16:40:39  <V453000> mitoo: about 60-80 Mbit
16:41:01  <V453000> mitoo: not now though ... I am at home for now on wifi ... and that sucks
16:41:51  <mitooo> and your pc?
16:42:03  <Ammler> !transfer
16:42:03  <PublicServer> Ammler: !transfer gamenr save: transfer the save to our web
16:42:07  <Ammler> !save
16:42:07  <PublicServer> Saving game...
16:42:09  <PublicServer> Game saved
16:42:18  <Ammler> !transfer 173 game.sav
16:42:21  <PublicServer> Ammler: PublicServerGame_173_Final.sav
16:42:21  <PublicServer> Ammler: Transfer done. (/home/openttd/website/public/save/game.sav->
16:42:26  <Ammler> !archive
16:42:27  <PublicServer> Ammler: http://www.openttdcoop.ORG/wiki/PublicServer:Archive | |
16:42:30  <V453000> :)
16:42:36  <Ammler> could someone make the archive entry ^?
16:42:49  <KenjiE20> was done last night
16:42:52  <V453000> it is already made
16:43:05  <Ammler> hehe, you guys :-)
16:43:14  <KenjiE20> pm, seconds is valid
16:44:35  <PublicServer> Server closed down by admin
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16:45:29  <V453000> wow we havent had a PAX game since 164
16:45:49  <KenjiE20> no one made a good pax plan since then
16:45:57  <KenjiE20> apparently
16:45:58  <V453000> :)
16:46:04  <V453000> true
16:46:39  <planetmaker> :-) ty, KenjiE20
16:46:48  <KenjiE20> @setpsg 174
16:46:48  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #174 (r18867) | STAGE: No clients left -> finalizing | | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: | Coopetition ladder:"
16:46:56  <KenjiE20> @stage Planning
16:46:56  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #174 (r18867) | STAGE: Planning | | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: | Coopetition ladder:"
16:47:06  <KenjiE20> dumdedum
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16:49:11  <JamesG> Hi
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16:49:33  <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged
16:49:33  <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server ('
16:49:33  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #174 (r18927) | STAGE: Planning | | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: | Coopetition ladder:"
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16:49:39  <mitooo> hey :)
16:49:53  <JamesG> !download lin
16:49:54  <PublicServer> JamesG:
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16:50:07  * KenjiE20 sings the compiling song
16:50:16  <Ammler> !screen
16:50:20  <Ammler> hmm
16:50:25  <JamesG> I'm not bothering to compile this time
16:50:36  <KenjiE20> !rcon screenshot
16:50:36  <JamesG> Do you use a new version of OpenTTD every game?
16:50:43  <Ammler> no action at all :-P
16:50:45  <KenjiE20> normally
16:51:04  <Ammler> !screen
16:51:04  <PublicServer> *** Ammler made screenshot at 00003609 :
16:51:16  <KenjiE20> that made it work
16:51:43  <JamesG> Which GRFs do I need?
16:51:52  <KenjiE20> @quickstart
16:51:54  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki -
16:51:55  <JamesG> Thanks
16:52:03  <KenjiE20> I probably shouldn't bother with make clean each time
16:52:08  <KenjiE20> but it's good habit
16:52:24  <Ammler> you watched me?
16:52:37  <KenjiE20> what?
16:52:49  <Ammler> nvm :-)
16:52:54  <Ammler> make clean
16:53:18  <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (not enough players)
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16:53:35  <Ammler> !autostart does its job just fine :-)
16:53:35  <PublicServer> Ammler:
16:53:46  <KenjiE20> lol
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16:54:23  <Ammler> oh indeed, out of date a bit :-)
16:54:44  <Ammler> well, the wiki is, the script had just recently a update
16:55:26  <mitooo> !password
16:55:27  <PublicServer> mitooo: taxied
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16:55:46  <Ammler> !screen
16:55:46  <PublicServer> *** Ammler made screenshot at 0001FF44 :
16:56:04  <Ammler> someone is buiding MM :-)
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16:56:10  <PublicServer> <Kenji> that'd be me
16:56:15  <PublicServer> <Kenji> ti's running
16:56:18  <PublicServer> <Kenji> i
16:56:21  <PublicServer> <Kenji> tis
16:56:23  <PublicServer> <Kenji> >_>
16:56:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> :PP
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16:56:53  <JamesG> !password
16:56:53  <PublicServer> JamesG: taxied
16:56:56  <Ammler> oh majonaise, we need to update the base set on this server
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16:57:12  <PublicServer> <Kenji> heh, the new variety system is nice for plains and valleys
16:57:29  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> variety?
16:57:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> Kenji: yeah very nice
16:57:38  <PublicServer> <Kenji> in new game
16:57:39  <PublicServer> <James> Nice map
16:59:11  <PublicServer> <Kenji> syncro'd landing :)
16:59:23  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> newgrf setup looks well done ;-)
17:00:32  <KenjiE20> !setdef
17:00:32  <PublicServer> *** KenjiE20 has disabled wait_for_pbs_path, wait_twoway_signal, wait_oneway_signal, ai_in_multiplayer enabled no_servicing_if_no_breakdowns, extra_dynamite, mod_road_rebuild, forbid_90_deg and set path_backoff_interval to 1, train_acceleration_model to 1
17:00:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> DB set is just the best :)
17:00:35  <Ammler> let me run it again, just for fun...
17:00:39  <Ammler> !screen
17:00:40  <PublicServer> *** Ammler liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (
17:00:46  <KenjiE20> :D
17:00:49  <Ammler> oh, you LAZY GUYS
17:00:55  <KenjiE20> 159 grand
17:01:07  <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost)
17:01:07  <KenjiE20> need 280, then two more jets
17:01:10  <planetmaker> nice. Now without news message :-)
17:01:21  <Ammler> and bigger :-)
17:01:29  <planetmaker> yeah. Also good
17:02:31  <planetmaker> Ammler, why the heck does the screenshot use original graphics?!
17:02:38  <KenjiE20> why not?
17:02:44  <planetmaker> wrong base set.
17:02:45  <Ammler> [17:56] <Ammler> oh majonaise, we need to update the base set on this server
17:02:55  <Ammler> :-D
17:03:05  <planetmaker> :-)
17:03:11  <KenjiE20> pfft, right base set :P
17:03:14  * planetmaker is obviously bad at reading back
17:03:25  <KenjiE20> pm, make comic set a base set >:D
17:03:35  <planetmaker> pffft
17:03:36  <Ammler> ah indeed
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17:03:45  <Ammler> toyland game is still pending...
17:04:01  <planetmaker> I started... and... well... have it low-priority on my to-do-list
17:04:23  <planetmaker> but seeing that obviously people don't use new base sets anyway, there's no point to continue :-P
17:04:46  <KenjiE20> I'd swap between comic and original plenty
17:04:56  <planetmaker> too bad
17:04:59  <PublicServer> <Kenji> loan gone
17:05:04  <KenjiE20> grr
17:05:17  <Ammler> !screen
17:05:17  <PublicServer> *** Ammler liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (
17:05:40  <KenjiE20> heh, bought the latest jet in the last depot
17:05:55  <Ammler> ah buying has no tile:
17:06:40  <Ammler> no phoenix here
17:07:12  <Ammler> he could make a script with mirc to issue !screen every now and then
17:07:44  <KenjiE20> hm
17:07:50  <KenjiE20> !rcon set breakdowns 0
17:07:50  <PublicServer> KenjiE20: 'breakdowns' is an unknown setting.
17:07:54  <KenjiE20> >_>
17:08:13  * KenjiE20 wonders why that's even on in this cfg
17:09:04  <planetmaker> !rcon set vehicle_breakdowns 0
17:09:06  <planetmaker> :-)
17:09:10  <planetmaker> that's in my cfg
17:09:17  <KenjiE20> ta
17:09:39  <mitooo> does everyone know why, when i close a openttd window (on linux), it won't close normally?
17:09:47  <PublicServer> <Kenji> anyway 6 jets running, should be enough for MM
17:09:59  <planetmaker> mitooo, abnormal installation?
17:10:03  <PublicServer> <Kenji> because your distro is odd?
17:10:07  <Ammler> ubuntu?
17:10:14  <mitooo> ammler: yp
17:10:18  <mitooo> yep*
17:10:23  <PublicServer> <James> I get problems closing the window sometimes
17:10:24  <planetmaker> crystal balls seem to be quite clear today...
17:10:28  <Ammler> (as KenjiE20 said)
17:10:41  <Ammler> it has some sound issues....
17:10:42  <mitooo> planet: just using .deb
17:10:57  <Ammler> you should use the generic files, afaik
17:11:05  <planetmaker> ... especially concerning "your 'does not work' or 'odd' translating to normal, descriptive language
17:11:18  <Ammler> !dl lin
17:11:18  <PublicServer> Ammler:
17:11:28  <Chris_Booth> !password
17:11:28  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: vetoed
17:11:28  <Ammler> mitooo: try with those ^
17:11:48  <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game
17:11:50  <planetmaker> too bad, Chris_Booth :-P
17:11:55  <planetmaker> the server vetoed :-P
17:12:04  <Ammler> !screen
17:12:04  <PublicServer> *** Ammler liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (
17:12:06  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i know i cant join
17:12:07  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> lol
17:12:12  <Ammler> menno :'-(
17:12:21  <planetmaker> do something now, Chris_Booth
17:12:26  <Ammler> :-D
17:12:26  <planetmaker> or Ammler will start to cry
17:12:29  <PublicServer> <James> Can I make a plan?
17:12:32  <planetmaker> JamesG, sure
17:12:34  <Ammler> YES!
17:12:39  <PublicServer> <Kenji> that's why the sign is there
17:13:04  <planetmaker> !screen
17:13:04  <PublicServer> *** planetmaker made screenshot at 0001E02E :
17:13:10  <planetmaker> hehe ^ :-)
17:13:15  <KenjiE20> :)
17:13:20  <Ammler> hmm
17:13:27  <KenjiE20> !screen
17:13:27  <PublicServer> *** KenjiE20 made screenshot at 0001D823 :
17:13:28  <Chris_Booth> Screen
17:13:37  <KenjiE20> what the?
17:13:38  <Ammler> [17:55] <PublicServer> *** Ammler made screenshot at 0001FF44 :
17:13:42  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> lolage
17:13:43  <planetmaker> ehm...
17:13:57  <planetmaker> wtf?!
17:14:01  <Chris_Booth> !screen
17:14:01  <PublicServer> *** Chris_Booth made screenshot at 00003A2B :
17:14:12  <planetmaker> ah... nicer :-)
17:14:14  <Chris_Booth> i did something
17:14:20  <Chris_Booth> i wrote ammler
17:14:29  <planetmaker> omg...
17:14:58  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> PM dont worry was i joke i didnt TF
17:15:01  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and its gone now
17:15:16  <planetmaker> it didn't fit on the screen! :-P
17:15:42  <planetmaker> !screen
17:15:42  <PublicServer> *** planetmaker made screenshot at 00003E25 :
17:16:12  <planetmaker> uh... did the sign !! NETWORK PLANS!! got removed?
17:16:17  <KenjiE20> I moved it
17:16:20  <planetmaker> aye
17:16:32  <KenjiE20> I shifted it up a bit
17:16:39  <planetmaker> this screen feature is awesome :-)
17:16:43  <planetmaker> !screen
17:16:43  <PublicServer> *** planetmaker made screenshot at 00005638 :
17:16:44  <Ammler> hehe, pm is offline watching now
17:16:51  <planetmaker> yeah
17:16:52  <KenjiE20> pm will never join now
17:16:59  <planetmaker> :-D
17:17:11  <planetmaker> I should write...
17:17:27  <planetmaker> I didn't reach my daily quota today...
17:17:54  <XeryusTC> !password
17:17:54  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: vetoed
17:18:08  <PublicServer> <Kenji> just a thought James
17:18:10  <XeryusTC> hmm
17:18:18  <PublicServer> <Kenji> while sprawling combined lines are fun offline
17:18:21  <XeryusTC> pile transport 2 has already finished?
17:18:25  <PublicServer> <Kenji> it'll never work on PS
17:18:33  <dexter311> !password
17:18:33  <PublicServer> dexter311: vetoed
17:19:07  <dexter311> !dl
17:19:07  <PublicServer> dexter311: !dl autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x
17:19:10  <Ammler> XeryusTC: too heavy already for some clients
17:19:17  <dexter311> !dl win32
17:19:17  <PublicServer> dexter311:
17:19:24  <XeryusTC> Ammler: could've told you that in advance :P
17:19:29  <PublicServer> <James> So, the network should be more modular?
17:19:51  <Ammler> well, you know, feel free to grap it from archive :-P
17:19:58  <PublicServer> <Kenji> pre-planned, that's sort of the idea
17:20:16  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ok i have my plan
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17:20:17  <PublicServer> <Kenji> sprawling lines tends to be part of B2B
17:20:19  <Ammler> !screen
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17:20:24  <dexter311> XeryusTC: yeah that game was waaay too big
17:20:34  <dexter311> brought my computer to a standstill
17:20:51  <Chris_Booth> !screen
17:20:51  <PublicServer> *** Chris_Booth made screenshot at 00006A3B :
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17:21:15  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> we have a winning plan (mine)
17:21:17  <KenjiE20> @post PSG 174 in planning, come make a plan
17:21:18  <Webster> KenjiE20: Posted.
17:21:19  <Ammler> XeryusTC: maybe we should make a NPF game ;-)
17:21:21  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> organised chaos
17:21:26  <Ammler> so we could reach 3k trains
17:21:26  <XeryusTC> why does PublicServer keep coming up with the same screenshot? or is it bad cache :P
17:21:45  <Ammler> XeryusTC: f5
17:21:54  <KenjiE20> lol
17:22:13  <Chris_Booth> !screen
17:22:13  <PublicServer> *** Chris_Booth made screenshot at 0000941F :
17:22:23  <planetmaker> lool :-)
17:22:28  <Chris_Booth> XeryusTC: now we have a new screeny
17:22:39  <PublicServer> <James> Will town passenger stations be on the main lines?
17:22:41  <planetmaker> are there no trees or are they invisible?
17:22:45  <KenjiE20> !screen
17:22:45  <PublicServer> *** KenjiE20 made screenshot at 0001D18C :
17:22:51  <KenjiE20> aw
17:22:52  <Ammler> planetmaker: they will grow...
17:22:59  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> james in my plan no
17:23:04  <KenjiE20> !screen
17:23:04  <PublicServer> *** KenjiE20 made screenshot at 0001E190 :
17:23:08  <Ammler> should be enabled
17:23:28  * Chris_Booth runs from KenjiE20 dragons
17:23:32  <PublicServer> <James> How do passengers get to the main lines?
17:23:39  <PublicServer> <James> Oh
17:23:42  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> via SLH
17:23:51  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> as with good games
17:24:03  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and then add train to station with most pax waiting
17:24:06  <dexter311> !password
17:24:06  <PublicServer> dexter311: aisles
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17:24:22  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 'i said boom boom let me hear you say way-oh'
17:24:31  <planetmaker> !screen
17:24:31  <PublicServer> *** planetmaker made screenshot at 00014050 :
17:24:37  <KenjiE20> !screen
17:24:37  <PublicServer> *** KenjiE20 liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (
17:24:45  <planetmaker> :-D
17:24:52  <dexter311> "way-oh!"
17:24:55  <dexter311> lol
17:24:55  <KenjiE20> !screen
17:24:55  <PublicServer> *** KenjiE20 liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (
17:25:02  <KenjiE20> boo
17:25:04  <Ammler> oh, not that private chat anymore ;-)
17:25:13  <KenjiE20> boo
17:25:16  <KenjiE20> !screen
17:25:16  <PublicServer> *** KenjiE20 liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (
17:25:23  <planetmaker> lool. True, Ammler :-)
17:25:35  <KenjiE20> !screen
17:25:36  <PublicServer> *** KenjiE20 made screenshot at 00014451 :
17:25:38  <KenjiE20> grr
17:25:50  <Chris_Booth> KenjiE20: i think we get the idea now
17:26:02  <Ammler> no, never use the !screen
17:26:02  <planetmaker> is it again a original terrain generator landscape?
17:26:05  <KenjiE20> silly thing would re snap
17:26:15  <KenjiE20> nope, TG + variety
17:26:17  <Ammler> oh, the comma should be after never
17:26:31  <planetmaker> ah... ok
17:26:41  <Ammler> the map looks fine zoomed out
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17:26:52  <dexter311> interesting map... I like it
17:26:55  <Chris_Booth> Ammler: depends what you want to say
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17:27:18  <PublicServer> <James> Will every city have an SLH, or will there be branch lines connecting several cities?
17:27:18  <Chris_Booth> never use the !screen or no never, use the !screen
17:27:24  <Chris_Booth> the second means use it more
17:27:30  <Chris_Booth> the first means dont use it
17:27:36  <Ammler> yes :-)
17:27:52  <Ammler> I want you to use it much
17:27:54  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> James: 1 SLH lots of citys
17:27:56  * KenjiE20 noms booth's screen
17:28:03  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> like with cargo game
17:28:12  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> pax will be treated like cargo
17:28:27  <PublicServer> <James> Ok, I did that once before with a cargo game
17:28:39  <Chris_Booth> KenjiE20: why my screen?
17:28:51  <KenjiE20> why not?
17:29:07  <Chris_Booth> !screen
17:29:07  <PublicServer> *** Chris_Booth made screenshot at 0003F7FD :
17:29:11  <Chris_Booth> thats why KenjiE20
17:29:13  <Chris_Booth> lol
17:29:34  <Chris_Booth> its to slow updating this rubish patch
17:29:37  <Chris_Booth> !screen
17:29:37  <PublicServer> *** Chris_Booth liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (
17:30:17  <Chris_Booth> !screen
17:30:17  <PublicServer> *** Chris_Booth made screenshot at 0003E7FE :
17:31:46  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> James: arent you making your plan?
17:32:16  <PublicServer> <James> Someone said it wouldn't work well in this sort of game
17:32:32  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> why wont it work?
17:32:45  <PublicServer> <James> Too difficult to manage with lots of players, I think
17:32:48  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> just need to use same speed loco
17:32:55  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no it would be fine
17:33:04  <KenjiE20> not lots of players
17:33:08  <PublicServer> <James> Maybe we could have a central main line, with slow and fast lanes
17:33:08  <KenjiE20> random players
17:33:30  <PublicServer> <James> Then lots of SLHs for both passengers and freight
17:33:51  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> James: if you make a plan it need to be easy to read
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17:34:48  <PublicServer> <James> I'll redraw it
17:35:12  <Boyinblue0> Hi all :)
17:35:28  <planetmaker> hello one ;-)
17:35:40  <Boyinblue0> How is everyone?
17:35:45  <Chris_Booth> blue
17:35:48  <planetmaker> hungry
17:36:04  <Ammler> !screen -y
17:36:04  <PublicServer> *** Ammler made screenshot at 0000122B :
17:36:09  <Boyinblue0> haha :p
17:36:18  <planetmaker> -y ?
17:37:17  <Ammler> !screen does ignore all parameters, yet.
17:37:17  <PublicServer> *** Ammler made screenshot at 00005A26 :
17:37:54  <Ammler> well, we could setup !screen <nick>
17:37:58  <Webster> Latest update from blog: Webcam on PublicServer <>
17:40:03  <PublicServer> <James> The train in a train bug!
17:40:16  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> 90deg allowed?
17:40:29  <planetmaker> :-O
17:40:37  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> lol its the bug Amm1er
17:41:05  <Ammler> Chris_Booth: "the bug"?
17:41:36  <planetmaker> !screen
17:41:36  <PublicServer> *** planetmaker made screenshot at 00005E25 :
17:41:38  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> the if the train is longer than the signal block it will ignor everything bug
17:42:02  <Boyinblue0> !revision win32
17:42:02  <PublicServer> Boyinblue0: Game version is r18927
17:42:08  <Boyinblue0> !dwin 32
17:42:15  <planetmaker> !dl win32
17:42:15  <Boyinblue0> !dwin32
17:42:15  <PublicServer> planetmaker:
17:42:22  <Boyinblue0> ty :P
17:42:43  <planetmaker> :-)
17:42:56  <planetmaker> Chris_Booth, it's just that trains can pass through themselves.
17:43:21  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> pm and the ignor the no 90 deg truns rule
17:43:32  <KenjiE20> Ammler: could you make that shot on the blog 60% or something?
17:43:54  <KenjiE20> 800 wide tends to push stuff around
17:43:57  <PublicServer> <James> The never ending train ended
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17:44:23  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Amm1er: how did you make the trains the could never be removed?
17:44:23  <Boy|Dinner> brb :)
17:46:50  <planetmaker> Chris_Booth, they were born that way, created by divine intervention ;-)
17:47:17  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> lol
17:47:36  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> when i try to make one it doesnt work
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17:48:47  <planetmaker> I *think* the key is proper timing... and creating it on a separate track and removing access to the final one
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17:50:09  <Ammler> Chris_Booth: I can't show you, else you are able to remove it ;-)
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17:50:41  <Ammler> or maybe not, dunno anymore
17:50:58  <PublicServer> <James> What is the max train length?
17:51:04  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i think i have got it
17:51:09  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 64
17:51:20  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> as that it max platform length
17:52:47  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i am such an idiot
17:53:06  <PublicServer> <James> Is there a problem putting stations on the main line?
17:53:18  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> they can jam the main line
17:53:36  <PublicServer> <James> Not if the entry tracks are short
17:53:41  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and what if a train doesnt want to stop there?
17:53:49  <PublicServer> <James> It goes straight through
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17:54:34  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ha i  think i have the unremovedavle train back
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17:57:50  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Thraxian: :'(
17:58:05  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> why do you have to be so immature and build that crap?
17:58:19  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> why not?
17:58:40  <PublicServer> <James> Look at Mainline station
17:58:49  <PublicServer> <James> Would that work?
17:58:58  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Thraxian: i will remove it
17:59:03  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i am not that much or an idiot
17:59:03  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> whatever....
17:59:27  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> there you go its gone
17:59:53  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> mainline station might work - but you typically want 6 platforms per line to be able to handle capacity
18:00:14  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Thraxian: i left an exit so i could remove it
18:00:21  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and whats the big issue?
18:00:29  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no one else cares
18:00:39  <PublicServer> <James> Also works so that fast trains are disrupted less having to change tracks
18:00:40  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> and you may need pre- and exit- signals to prevent trains from waiting for a full platform
18:00:45  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> or at least 2-way signals at entrance
18:01:02  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> or PBS
18:01:17  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> James: its best not to have station dricetly on the ML though
18:01:27  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> as they are proned to jamming
18:01:40  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and have no way to bypass them if trains dont want to visit the station
18:03:42  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> Chris Booth: don't you have enough 4way BBHs?
18:04:35  <jondisti> !password
18:04:36  <PublicServer> jondisti: awning
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18:04:53  <devilsadvocate> whats a BBH / SLH?
18:05:06  <jondisti> @quickstart
18:05:09  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki -
18:05:42  <kratt> !dl win32
18:05:42  <PublicServer> kratt:
18:05:54  <KenjiE20> @bbh
18:05:54  <Webster> bbh: Back Bone Hub, see also:
18:05:56  <KenjiE20> @slh
18:05:56  <Webster> slh: Sideline Hub, see also:
18:06:57  <PublicServer> *** kratt joined the game
18:07:31  <PublicServer> <kratt> 5 BBHs only?
18:07:38  <PublicServer> <kratt> o not so big map :D
18:07:43  <PublicServer> <James> My plan would have 0
18:08:03  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> kratt: 4 3ways and a 4 way is enough for this map
18:08:09  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> i don't know if "only" is right word to use :P
18:08:55  <PublicServer> <kratt> so which plan
18:08:58  <PublicServer> <kratt> chris or james
18:09:09  <PublicServer> <James> I'm going to eat, I vote for my plan
18:09:13  <PublicServer> *** James has left the game (leaving)
18:09:18  <KenjiE20> well obviously -_-
18:09:30  <PublicServer> <kratt> well, i wish to see many BBHs
18:09:33  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> kratt: if anyone votes for James plan i will slap them so harc
18:09:36  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hard
18:09:48  <KenjiE20> how about mystery nth plan?
18:09:50  <PublicServer> <kratt> well that sounds like ganster talk
18:10:09  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i will also slap there b**ch up
18:10:11  * Thraxian|Work would vote for James' plan before Booth's
18:10:15  <PublicServer> <dexter311> well since I don't really understand james' plan I'll have to go with chris
18:10:19  <PublicServer> <kratt> i like yours chris
18:10:20  <PublicServer> <kratt> TL5
18:10:31  * Thraxian|Work prefers straight-line MLs than lots of loops, half of which will never be used
18:10:32  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Thraxian: what are you doing?
18:10:55  <Thraxian|Work> Chris_Booth: apparently getting ready for me and my b**ch to get slapped up
18:11:00  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Thraxian: James want to buil stations on busy MLs with bypassing them
18:11:03  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> that is crazy
18:11:33  <Thraxian|Work> we've done it before.  recently, in fact.
18:11:58  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> an mixing Pax and Cargo
18:12:03  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and train speeds
18:12:10  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> its just going to end up a mess
18:12:29  <Thraxian|Work>
18:12:45  <Thraxian|Work> that one was cargo only, but it included mainline stations
18:12:54  <Thraxian|Work> and I hought we added pax to it late-game
18:12:57  <Thraxian|Work> *thought
18:13:12  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Thraxian: you obviously dont like my plan, or me so just go vote for what ever stupid plan you want to vote for
18:13:33  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> thrax 1 central 4 track ML
18:13:40  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> inner lines for fast trains
18:13:48  <Thraxian|Work> I don't like your plan because I'm not a fan of making grid-style MLs.  It always ends up with some routes getting backed up, and some not being used at all
18:13:53  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> so using them for pax i assume
18:14:15  <Thraxian|Work> and I have no problem with you either.  I think your attitude just rubs me the wrong way
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18:14:36  <Chris_Booth> Thraxian|Work: also using a reference to the worst game ever
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18:16:47  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> also Thraxianif you read my plan you may think differently about it
18:16:52  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> but its you choice
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18:17:37  <PublicServer> <kratt> chris your plan HAS 5 BBHs or MSHs?
18:17:48  <Chris_Booth> 5 BBHs
18:17:53  <Chris_Booth> and MSHs
18:17:57  <PublicServer> <kratt> k
18:17:58  <Chris_Booth> the rest is all SLH
18:18:04  <Chris_Booth> which will be dynamice
18:18:09  <Chris_Booth> dynamic
18:18:13  <PublicServer> <kratt> 1 4 way BBH
18:18:15  <Chris_Booth> and grow during the game
18:18:18  <Chris_Booth> yeah
18:18:20  <PublicServer> <kratt> and 4 3 way BBH
18:18:26  <Chris_Booth> all mls are LR to start with
18:18:36  <PublicServer> <kratt> Its fine by me
18:18:57  <PublicServer> <kratt> ill vote for u Chris
18:19:04  <Chris_Booth> no voting yet anyway
18:19:09  <Chris_Booth> just planing
18:19:10  <PublicServer> <kratt> kk
18:19:12  <Chris_Booth> we need more plans
18:19:22  <PublicServer> <kratt> ye. I think now your plan best
18:19:55  <Chris_Booth> my plan is pax only
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18:22:05  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> since when does the water "pulse" on the furthest zoom setting?
18:22:16  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> it looks very unusual....
18:22:29  <PublicServer> <dexter311> yeah tis a bit weird...
18:22:31  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> i've seen that before
18:22:46  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> it's not a new feature
18:22:58  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> I especially like the "waves" - the entire lake has waves at the same time
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18:23:14  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> I always thought the moon caused bodies of water to "rock" back and forth
18:23:25  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> so the north shore and the south shore would alternate waves as the water sloshed around
18:26:09  <planetmaker> uh @ Thraxian|Work ?
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18:27:11  <JamesG> !password
18:27:11  <PublicServer> JamesG: balked
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18:32:19  <Phoenix_the_II> !screen
18:32:19  <PublicServer> *** Phoenix_the_II made screenshot at 00000E2C :
18:32:36  <Phoenix_the_II> pewpewpew
18:33:07  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> hehe :-)
18:34:33  <PublicServer> ***  liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (
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18:36:40  <PublicServer> <James> When do we vote on the plans?
18:36:48  <KenjiE20> @quickstart
18:36:50  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki -
18:37:33  <planetmaker> <-- what do you actually think about that, Ammler ?
18:37:49  <planetmaker> I actually feel like comitting the x as the stop symbol...
18:38:43  <Ammler> it is the better proposal indeed
18:39:22  <Ammler> fast done :-)
18:39:42  <planetmaker> yeah. Felt yesterday night like "that's a quick job done... maybe" ;-)
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18:41:06  * Ammler just wonders, if that is the only place, where a color blind guy has issues.
18:41:23  * planetmaker has no idea either. But he might has said so...
18:41:59  <Ammler> I mean the whole signalling
18:42:13  <planetmaker> yes. But there the position of the light changes.
18:42:26  <planetmaker> Signals are hard to discern anyway as they're currently made
18:42:28  <PublicServer> <James> I find the buttons are too small, especially when using a laptop
18:42:42  <planetmaker> JamesG, that's something currently not easily changed.
18:42:59  <planetmaker> For sure it's on some to-do lists. But don't expect a fast solution.
18:43:01  <Ammler> but I guss, "they" are working on that...
18:43:16  <planetmaker> Graphics zoom for that would need code support within OpenTTD.
18:43:36  <planetmaker> Getting larger sprites... I guess that should then relatively easily be possible for the GUI elements.
18:43:54  <planetmaker> "relativ" ;-)
18:43:57  <planetmaker> +e
18:44:09  <planetmaker> It's only about 100 sprites, though
18:44:23  <PublicServer> <James> Just make the start and stop buttons the same size as the selling buttons
18:44:59  <planetmaker> That'd blow up the whole status bar at the bottom of the windows.
18:45:11  <planetmaker> The solution is only to zoom all GUI sprites.
18:45:12  <planetmaker> IMO
18:45:19  <Ammler> planetmaker: couldn't you make the size bigger and it would make the window automatically bigger too?
18:45:26  <planetmaker> Ammler, yes, it would
18:45:52  <planetmaker> But then the engine / rv / airplane / ship symbols would need adjustment
18:46:00  <planetmaker> the window re-size sprite...
18:46:19  <planetmaker> That's a road better prepared by a zoom for all sprites.
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18:49:14  <Boyinblue0> !grf
18:49:15  <PublicServer> Boyinblue0: (Version 7.3)
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18:49:33  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0000362C :
18:49:51  <Chris_Booth> planetmaker: just a quicky
18:50:06  <Chris_Booth> will the openGFX menu sprite ever go HD or 32bpp?
18:50:23  <planetmaker> iewww. Thanks, I prefer a quickie with other persons... :-P
18:50:40  <Chris_Booth> hahaha planetmaker not like that
18:51:01  <Boyinblue0> !password
18:51:01  <PublicServer> Boyinblue0: jiggle
18:51:14  <PublicServer> *** Player joined the game
18:51:14  <Webster> Player, please change your in game nick
18:51:17  <planetmaker> there will be, if there ever will be a decent 32bpp project, maybe even a 32bpp OpenGFX
18:51:34  <PublicServer> *** Player has left the game (leaving)
18:51:58  <planetmaker> so... Dunno :-) I'm not an artist.
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18:52:24  <planetmaker> Boyinblue0, you know the ingame console?
18:52:36  <PublicServer> <Boyinblue0> /
18:52:39  <planetmaker> name <newname> also works from there :-)
18:52:51  <PublicServer> <Boyinblue0> Ahhh right okays :P
18:53:02  <PublicServer> <Boyinblue0> Long time since i've played so forgot a lot of stuff :(
18:53:10  <planetmaker> yeah, seems like ;-)
18:53:27  <PublicServer> <Boyinblue0> Hehe :P Had a really busy past few months :?
18:53:27  <planetmaker> yes, I remember your nickname, though ;-)
18:53:54  <PublicServer> <Boyinblue0> Hehe :P Yeah I was here a while ago
18:54:15  <PublicServer> <Boyinblue0> Summer time last year I think was the last time
18:54:46  <planetmaker> which months are summer for you?
18:55:26  <Boyinblue0> ahh erm july to august/september
18:55:37  <planetmaker> ok :-) Just making sure :-)
18:56:22  <Kenix> !help
18:56:22  <PublicServer> Kenix:
18:56:48  <Kenix> !players
18:56:50  <PublicServer> Kenix: Client 2 (Orange) is Amm1er, in company 1 (Flarham Transport)
18:56:50  <PublicServer> Kenix: Client 17 is Thraxian, a spectator
18:56:50  <PublicServer> Kenix: Client 22 (Orange) is James, in company 1 (Flarham Transport)
18:56:50  <PublicServer> Kenix: Client 7 (Orange) is Mitooo, in company 1 (Flarham Transport)
18:56:50  <PublicServer> Kenix: Client 26 (Orange) is Boyinblue0, in company 1 (Flarham Transport)
18:56:50  <PublicServer> Kenix: Client 15 is dexter311, a spectator
18:56:50  <PublicServer> Kenix: Client 20 (Orange) is kratt, in company 1 (Flarham Transport)
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19:01:12  <V453000> !password
19:01:12  <PublicServer> V453000: jiggle
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19:04:33  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00008232 :
19:04:35  <V453000> haha you forgot trees on the map Kenji :P
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19:12:04  <PublicServer> <James> Airship!
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19:13:10  <MeisterMarkus> !save
19:13:10  <PublicServer> Saving game...
19:13:11  <PublicServer> Game saved
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19:17:10  <MeisterMarkus> !password
19:17:10  <PublicServer> MeisterMarkus: tailed
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19:18:55  <Thorinbur> !players
19:18:57  <PublicServer> Thorinbur: Client 2 (Orange) is Amm1er, in company 1 (Flarham Transport)
19:18:57  <PublicServer> Thorinbur: Client 17 is Thraxian, a spectator
19:18:57  <PublicServer> Thorinbur: Client 22 (Orange) is James, in company 1 (Flarham Transport)
19:18:57  <PublicServer> Thorinbur: Client 7 (Orange) is Mitooo, in company 1 (Flarham Transport)
19:18:57  <PublicServer> Thorinbur: Client 26 (Orange) is Boyinblue0, in company 1 (Flarham Transport)
19:18:58  <PublicServer> Thorinbur: Client 15 is dexter311, a spectator
19:18:58  <PublicServer> Thorinbur: Client 30 (Orange) is MeisterMarkus, in company 1 (Flarham Transport)
19:19:00  <PublicServer> Thorinbur: Client 20 (Orange) is kratt, in company 1 (Flarham Transport)
19:19:13  <Thorinbur> Woah... Quite crowdy in here
19:19:34  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0000F65C :
19:19:43  <PublicServer> *** Amm1er has left the game (leaving)
19:19:46  <Thorinbur> New map?
19:20:07  <Ammler> !rcon set pause_on_join
19:20:08  <PublicServer> Ammler: Current value for 'pause_on_join' is: 'on' (min: 0, max: 1)
19:20:09  <PublicServer> <MeisterMarkus> yes
19:20:11  <Ammler> !rcon set pause_on_join 0
19:20:12  <Thorinbur> Wow!
19:20:16  <Thorinbur> !password
19:20:16  <PublicServer> Thorinbur: runway
19:20:28  <PublicServer> <MeisterMarkus> guess why i'm online again :D
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19:20:50  <Thorinbur> wow! leave something for me!
19:21:17  <PublicServer> <MeisterMarkus> it's still planning phase
19:21:26  <Thorinbur> good
19:22:03  <Thorinbur> why last map was dropped?
19:22:11  <Thorinbur> Too intense?
19:22:12  <PublicServer> <MeisterMarkus> dunno
19:22:42  <Thorinbur> and new version as well
19:22:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> what is taht station supposed to be?
19:23:08  <PublicServer> <James> I'm hoping it would work as a mainline station without jamming
19:23:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> how do you describe ML station :)
19:23:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> or ... what do you want it to do
19:24:13  <Thorinbur> wow... Unmatching new grf
19:24:14  <PublicServer> <James> I want it to handle lots of trains
19:24:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> well ... ok  ... its job is to load and unload passengers?
19:25:20  <PublicServer> <James> Passengers and freight
19:25:43  <PublicServer> <MeisterMarkus> wow a tl 12 station
19:25:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> I doubt tha twill work
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19:26:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> you would probably need something more complicated
19:26:36  <Thorinbur> hmm... Are all GRF's used there in the GRF pack 7.3 from the page?
19:26:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> which dont match?
19:27:00  <PublicServer> <James> Planes and depot
19:27:09  <Ammler> Thorinbur: read !grf
19:27:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> planes are at Online Content
19:27:17  <Thorinbur> !grf
19:27:17  <PublicServer> Thorinbur: (Version 7.3)
19:27:19  <Ammler> or @quickstart
19:27:21  <PublicServer> <James> So is depot
19:27:26  <Thorinbur> downloading it right now
19:27:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> k
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19:28:07  <Thorinbur> strange. I saw that Auto Updater was downloading this pack. Maybe an old ersion.
19:28:30  <sietse> !dl lin
19:28:30  <PublicServer> sietse:
19:29:12  <sietse> !password
19:29:12  <PublicServer> sietse: runway
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19:29:35  <PublicServer> <Sietse> hello
19:29:43  <PublicServer> <MeisterMarkus> hi
19:29:43  <PublicServer> <James> Hi
19:30:06  <PublicServer> <Sietse> 1024x256?
19:30:23  <KenjiE20> wtf? why is there a main station?
19:30:53  <PublicServer> <James> I want to know if something like this would work
19:31:19  <KenjiE20> could you not test in a sandbox offline?
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19:31:28  <PublicServer> <James> Yes
19:31:57  <PublicServer> <MeisterMarkus> but he wouldn't get feedback in an offline sandbox
19:32:06  <KenjiE20> screenshots
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19:32:36  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> YEY!
19:32:45  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> It works It works!
19:34:28  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Why so bug station?
19:34:31  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> *big?
19:34:33  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00001A17 :
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19:35:28  <KenjiE20> PS in any other stage than building is not the place for such constructs
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19:37:30  <Boyinblue0> !quickstart
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19:38:41  <Boyinblue0> @quickstart
19:38:43  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki -
19:39:08  <KenjiE20> in case you didn't get the hint, please pull it up
19:39:55  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> it's gone :(
19:42:19  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> You started with cheats? Or all that cash comes from planes?
19:42:33  <KenjiE20> planes
19:44:13  <Fuco> !dl win64
19:44:13  <PublicServer> Fuco:
19:44:29  <Fuco> hm lol, my client is like 6 months old
19:44:33  <PublicServer> <Boyinblue0> Wow guys 2880*900 resolution with dual screens :P
19:44:45  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> nice.
19:44:50  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> ry that with previos map
19:45:10  <Fuco> !password
19:45:10  <PublicServer> Fuco: carols
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19:45:57  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Low TS or Medium TF, cos there are both stated
19:46:17  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> With plan is correct?
19:46:26  <KenjiE20> none
19:46:29  <PublicServer> <Fucoo> you have to wait for vote
19:46:54  <KenjiE20> @quickstart
19:46:56  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki -
19:48:28  <PublicServer> <kratt> so
19:48:33  <PublicServer> <kratt> anybody have better ideas?
19:48:42  <PublicServer> <kratt> or shall we start
19:48:43  <planetmaker> make a plan, kratt :-)
19:48:48  <PublicServer> <kratt> well
19:48:54  <PublicServer> <kratt> im a very rookie player
19:49:00  <PublicServer> <Fucoo> it will take like a day to start
19:49:00  <planetmaker> and we don't start before there hasn't been called the vote finished.
19:49:10  <PublicServer> <Fucoo> you can take a good night sleep
19:49:19  <PublicServer> <kratt> i think i should leave my thoughts to myself
19:49:28  <planetmaker> well... why?
19:49:33  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0000362C :
19:49:47  <Fuco> what whas that ^^
19:49:58  <planetmaker> look at the link
19:49:58  <KenjiE20> bridges?
19:49:59  <PublicServer> <kratt> anyway when no better plan
19:50:04  <Ammler> password manager created the screen
19:50:05  <PublicServer> <kratt> i vote for Chris Booth
19:50:31  <planetmaker> is there already a voting board around? Dunno
19:50:37  <Fuco> nope
19:50:38  <KenjiE20> only two plans
19:50:39  <KenjiE20> so no
19:50:40  <PublicServer> <Boyinblue0> Mind if I have a go at creating a plan?
19:50:49  <PublicServer> <MeisterMarkus> go ahead
19:50:51  <planetmaker> Boyinblue0, sure, please, go for it
19:50:57  <PublicServer> *** Fucoo has left the game (leaving)
19:51:11  <planetmaker> s/sure/surely not/
19:51:31  <Ammler> Fuco: mainly your patch :-)
19:51:36  <PublicServer> <Boyinblue0> Okily dokily :) It will be my first one so may not be very good.
19:51:47  <Fuco> Ammler: it's just there wasn't any command
19:51:55  <Ammler>
19:52:20  <Ammler> I "sourced" it in the password cicle
19:52:35  <Ammler> so if nobody triggers it here, it does change
19:53:41  <Fuco> ah, cool
19:53:43  <Fuco> autoupdate
19:54:14  <Fuco> maybe it should say something else, but that's just a minor thing
19:55:10  <KenjiE20> maybe it should just be silent
19:55:30  <KenjiE20> not like we really need the PS saying that every 15mins 24/7
19:55:32  <Ammler> I agree to KenjiE20
19:57:13  <PublicServer> <dexter311> mind if I have a go at making a plan?
19:57:32  <PublicServer> <dexter311> it'd be more simple though I think... considering I'm a noob
19:57:37  <Ammler> dexter311: no need to ask, go for it
19:57:41  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Post one.
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19:58:00  <Ammler> and do mind, we vote about, so your plan could get declined.
19:58:17  <PublicServer> <dexter311> yeah I won't be worried if mine doesn't go
19:58:26  <Ammler> fine :-)
19:58:50  <PublicServer> <James> I've never played one of these games before, and I made a plan
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20:03:17  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> TL is best when odd (cant remember why) Just stating what i red somewhere
20:03:56  <KenjiE20> odd fits in an even signal spacing
20:04:33  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 000081FA :
20:06:22  <PublicServer> <James> Whose plan is to divide the map into small regions?
20:06:27  <PublicServer> <MeisterMarkus> mine
20:06:30  <Ammler> !content
20:06:40  <PublicServer> *** Ammler has updated content from BaNaNaS.
20:07:46  <Razaekel> !password
20:07:47  <PublicServer> Razaekel: musses
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20:09:50  <PublicServer> <Boyinblue0> Done my plan :) Anything missing?
20:13:02  <Ammler> !playercount
20:13:02  <PublicServer> Ammler: Number of players: 9
20:13:05  <Ammler> !url
20:13:06  <PublicServer> Ammler:
20:17:56  <PublicServer> <dexter311> does mine make any sense?
20:17:59  <PublicServer> <dexter311> do I need a coffee?
20:18:47  <PublicServer> <MeisterMarkus> two factory drops?
20:19:06  <PublicServer> * MeisterMarkus likes
20:19:33  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0000ADDA :
20:20:16  <KenjiE20> heh
20:20:30  <KenjiE20> mixed networks >_< haven't we already proved those fail on PS?
20:20:36  <KenjiE20> meh
20:20:59  <^Spike^> pax and cargo same netwerk?
20:21:02  <^Spike^> network*
20:21:08  <KenjiE20> ya
20:21:08  <^Spike^> that has gone wrong many times...
20:21:15  <^Spike^> should be separate to make it flow better
20:21:21  <KenjiE20> that german map one *almost* worked
20:21:28  <^Spike^> ?
20:21:29  <^Spike^> which one
20:21:31  <KenjiE20> till *someone* overlorded
20:21:35  <KenjiE20> loverloaded*
20:21:37  <KenjiE20> -l
20:21:40  <KenjiE20> grahrdofs
20:21:45  <^Spike^> psg?
20:21:55  <KenjiE20> sec
20:22:02  <PublicServer> <James> LL_RR, outside for freight, inside for pax
20:22:19  <PublicServer> <James> But they would share junctions
20:22:59  <KenjiE20> @psgsave 139
20:22:59  <Webster> PSG 139 Archive entry;
20:23:27  <^Spike^> that one
20:23:31  <^Spike^> the game i started.. :)
20:23:38  <^Spike^> that was a nice one idd
20:23:42  <KenjiE20> yea, that worked right up until players went mad
20:23:45  <^Spike^> even my SLH held up! :)
20:23:52  <KenjiE20> and we had an overload of PAX
20:23:54  <MeisterMarkus> james build hubs like this one and they won't mix
20:23:57  <^Spike^> oh that idd..
20:23:59  <KenjiE20> and random non-plan stations
20:24:02  <^Spike^> someone went mad on busses
20:24:16  <KenjiE20> and maglev
20:24:17  <^Spike^> and i tried to save it but failed...
20:24:31  <^Spike^> i tried te reduce busses and get rid of maglev.. :(
20:24:38  <KenjiE20> I only noticed the random PAX station addition in the Final
20:25:03  <KenjiE20> I think I gave up trying to control the obvious madness
20:25:11  <KenjiE20> two nets don't work on PS
20:25:14  <^Spike^> some ppl was like: There osm
20:25:19  <^Spike^> isn't enough pax!
20:25:20  <KenjiE20> one always gets more attn than the other :(
20:25:54  <^Spike^> yep
20:26:16  <MeisterMarkus> psg172 had even 4 nets
20:26:25  <KenjiE20> but they were all cargo
20:26:42  <KenjiE20> and it was still unbalanced
20:26:58  <Thorinbur> @psgsave 172
20:26:58  <Webster> PSG 172 Archive entry;
20:27:00  <KenjiE20> copper had tons, and oil little
20:27:11  <KenjiE20> oil, or rubber, one of them
20:27:14  <MeisterMarkus> hmm true
20:27:15  <KenjiE20> the one in the NE corner
20:27:28  <PublicServer> <James> SLHs would be built to handle only cargo or only pax
20:27:33  <PublicServer> <James> Same with depots
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20:27:51  <KenjiE20> why depots? we don't use them
20:28:00  <PublicServer> <James> *Service center
20:28:09  <KenjiE20> see previous statement
20:28:16  <planetmaker> Well... still experience shows that pax + cargo don't mix well...
20:28:25  <KenjiE20> indeed
20:28:38  <PublicServer> <James> Isn't it best to use both for city growth?
20:29:06  <KenjiE20> but who cares about that in a cargo net
20:29:07  <planetmaker> 5 stations within city reach is sufficient.
20:29:17  <KenjiE20> plus ^
20:29:17  <planetmaker> Everything else is just eye candy.
20:30:13  <planetmaker> exceptions are climates where a town needs either food or water in order to grow at all.
20:30:15  <Ammler> !screen
20:30:15  <PublicServer> *** Ammler made screenshot at 0000D215 :
20:30:32  <KenjiE20> asdf
20:30:38  <KenjiE20> that's a lots of bought land
20:30:44  <planetmaker> But then one drop / one apple a month for the whole town is also sufficient to satisfy all the needs of all people living there
20:30:56  <KenjiE20> heh
20:32:07  <subby> The version listed for your grf pack, is that the required openttd version?
20:32:19  <subby> ie, the public server running an older version ?
20:32:38  <kratt> i made my plan
20:32:42  <kratt> atleast i think whats best
20:32:59  <KenjiE20> that's the version of the GRFPack
20:33:10  <subby> Oh, alright!
20:33:25  <subby> Wanna spectate on the server a bit, curious cat! :)
20:33:34  <KenjiE20> @quickstart
20:33:36  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki -
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20:34:19  <Chris_Booth> how are the plans going?
20:34:33  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0000C64C :
20:34:38  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Many many plans showing up
20:34:52  <PublicServer> <James> Chris, does your plan go through the mountains?
20:35:05  <Chris_Booth> yes but very low TF
20:35:57  <PublicServer> <kratt> well chris
20:36:01  <PublicServer> <kratt> your plan is history
20:36:03  <Chris_Booth> !password
20:36:03  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: proton
20:36:13  <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game
20:36:15  <Chris_Booth> why is the kratt ?
20:36:19  <planetmaker> kratt, ?
20:36:23  <PublicServer> *** James has left the game (connection lost)
20:36:26  <PublicServer> <kratt> i made better one
20:36:37  <planetmaker> but you didn't delete his?
20:36:39  <JamesG> !password
20:36:39  <PublicServer> JamesG: proton
20:36:46  <PublicServer> <kratt> ofcourse not
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20:36:56  <PublicServer> <dexter311> but yours is completely different kratt
20:36:57  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> also, who built bridge all arround that lake and why?
20:37:07  <PublicServer> <kratt> why would i do such thing
20:37:07  <PublicServer> <dexter311> chris has PAX only... yours is cargo only
20:37:10  <PublicServer> <kratt> maybe my plan is bad
20:37:17  <PublicServer> <James> I built the bridges
20:37:17  <PublicServer> <kratt> and we need few options
20:37:26  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i asked a question
20:37:37  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> who built bridges arround the lake
20:37:41  <PublicServer> <James> I haven't used  this GRF before
20:37:42  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and why?
20:38:25  <PublicServer> <kratt> brb
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20:38:59  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> PM can you pause the server please
20:39:26  <Chris_Booth> planetmaker: can you pause the server please
20:39:31  <KenjiE20> 20:38:05   +PublicServer | <James> I built the bridges
20:39:36  <Chris_Booth> some one has been TFing the map
20:39:36  <KenjiE20> 20:38:28   +PublicServer | <James> I haven't used  this GRF before
20:39:40  <KenjiE20> perhaps you should be reading
20:39:46  <Chris_Booth> there is no need to TF the map though
20:39:53  <Chris_Booth> to build the bridges it there?
20:40:23  <subby> !password
20:40:23  <PublicServer> subby: proton
20:40:23  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> if you want to do things like that you do it in private games
20:40:29  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no i coop game
20:40:36  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> not in a coop game
20:40:37  <KenjiE20> true
20:40:37  <PublicServer> <James> Will do in future
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20:40:45  <KenjiE20> I see no major earthworks though
20:40:51  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> sorry for the mega bad english
20:40:52  <KenjiE20> not *really* major anyway
20:41:00  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i just removed them
20:41:08  <KenjiE20> I know
20:41:47  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and a stupid man has been drawn
20:41:50  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> again why?
20:42:24  <PublicServer> <dexter311> weren't you making stupid long trains before chris?
20:42:39  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and thrax told me off for it
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20:48:23  <Razaekel> whee, noobs galore
20:49:33  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0000ADF8 :
20:50:06  <PublicServer> <Sietse> added a plan aswell :)
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20:54:06  <PublicServer> <MeisterMarkus> is it possible to add trainsets to a running game?
20:54:14  <Razaekel> yea
20:54:20  <PublicServer> <MeisterMarkus> nice
20:54:23  <Razaekel> removing trainsets that are in use is another matter, tho
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20:54:39  <KenjiE20> adding isn't without issues either
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21:01:02  <PublicServer> <dexter311> all aboard the fail plane...
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21:02:26  <PublicServer> <Kenji> why are there more jets?
21:02:46  <PublicServer> <James> I bought four jets
21:02:47  <PublicServer> <Kenji> 6 was plenty
21:02:58  <PublicServer> <Kenji> fundham was at capacity
21:03:25  <PublicServer> <Kenji> their not even the same type
21:03:28  <PublicServer> <Kenji> ...
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21:13:39  <PublicServer> <James> How do we decide when to vote for a plan?
21:13:52  <db48x> you can vote at any time
21:14:14  <db48x> you can change your vote if a plan shows up later
21:14:30  <KenjiE20> can't vote without a vote board
21:15:24  <Thorinbur> But what type of voting system? Simply tell whith you loke best, or that dropping out vote plan (new voting system or something,
21:15:39  <PublicServer> <James> Should we vote on it?
21:15:44  <sietse> just a list with all plans and ppl get to vote once
21:15:58  <sietse> go ahead and create a voteboard
21:16:00  <KenjiE20> let's vote on whether to vote about what vote we use for voting
21:16:06  <dexter311> lol
21:16:10  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> HAHA
21:16:18  <PublicServer> <James> If we don't vote, what do we do?
21:16:25  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> I vote for voting for!
21:16:35  <Ammler> waiting for tomorrow....
21:16:45  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> And than i vote for second voting system
21:16:50  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> and then...
21:16:51  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :P
21:17:05  <planetmaker> and then I come and decide as dictator that my plan has won :-P
21:17:07  * KenjiE20 seconds Ammler
21:17:27  <PublicServer> <James> Where should we put the vote board?
21:17:30  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> Lets give everyone chance of posting his plan.
21:17:33  <KenjiE20> you'd need to make on up first pm
21:18:01  <Ammler> there won't be a plan decided before tomorrow evening t-~20hours
21:18:07  <PublicServer> <James> Ok
21:18:11  <db48x> !password
21:18:11  <PublicServer> db48x: cowers
21:18:13  <KenjiE20> James: unless a member changes the topic, any voting is null and voi
21:18:15  <KenjiE20> void*
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21:19:09  <Thorinbur> gonna watch some recent games
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21:20:29  <Yexo> Have you ever played an all-aircraft game? Or another game with lots of aircraft?
21:20:36  <KenjiE20> dull
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21:20:53  <KenjiE20> big inter-cont, spam planes
21:20:58  <KenjiE20> s/big/build/
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21:23:05  <planetmaker> Yexo, only aircraft indeed would imply to not do much... but we often use them as money maker
21:23:18  <Yexo> ok, nvm then
21:23:20  <planetmaker> and... they might be used as eye candy or so.
21:23:28  <planetmaker> But I can guess why you ask :-)
21:23:38  <planetmaker> Anything you would like in particular?
21:23:40  <Yexo> I doubt you'd guess right :)
21:23:48  <planetmaker> ok... ^
21:23:48  <Yexo> nah, just lots of aircraft
21:23:54  <KenjiE20> we have used the occasional heavy lifter for short hops
21:24:15  <KenjiE20> 131 / 132 spring to mind
21:24:17  <planetmaker> hm... I recall some MP games where there were A LOT of airports... but they were indeed not here
21:24:21  <Yexo> just running a few AIs with planes only now, cheating them some money
21:24:24  <Yexo> that'll do soon enough
21:24:36  <KenjiE20> also that island hopping PAX game
21:24:47  <KenjiE20> that had airport links and island sbahn
21:25:00  <Yexo> 250 airports within a single year :o
21:25:00  <KenjiE20> 14x iirc
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21:33:32  <mitooo> !password
21:33:32  <PublicServer> mitooo: hedged
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21:38:09  <V453000> !password
21:38:09  <PublicServer> V453000: uterus
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21:42:20  <Osai> hi all
21:42:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi!
21:42:49  <Osai> we need a screenshort for psg#172
21:43:03  <KenjiE20> f5
21:43:04  <V453000> there is one
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21:43:55  <V453000> I added it today...
21:43:59  <Osai> perfect
21:44:03  <Osai> oO
21:44:12  <Osai> I just updated RSS now
21:44:16  <Osai> and saw it
21:44:23  <V453000> :)
21:44:52  <Osai> and oh
21:44:56  <Osai> I didn't tell you guys
21:45:00  <kratt> !password
21:45:00  <PublicServer> kratt: uterus
21:45:06  <Osai> I lately tried to be more active
21:45:16  <Osai> but times changed a wee bit again :/
21:45:16  <V453000> ?
21:45:18  <KenjiE20> did hell freeze?
21:45:21  <Osai> no
21:45:24  <V453000> :D
21:45:24  <KenjiE20> :P
21:45:32  <Osai> I was nominated for the kendo national team
21:45:37  <KenjiE20> grats
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21:45:44  <Osai> so I am focusing on european championships
21:45:45  <V453000> wow
21:45:47  <Osai> in april
21:46:24  <planetmaker> ha, grats, Osai !
21:46:32  <Osai> thx pm :)
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21:46:53  <Osai> I was practicing for this since 4 years
21:47:00  <Osai> and now it is true
21:47:05  <Osai> I can't believe it :D
21:47:13  <planetmaker> :-) hehe :-)
21:47:43  <Osai> Ammler: is it a server side patch?
21:47:49  <Osai> !screen
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21:48:22  <Ammler> Osai: quite minor, just had to enable blitters for dedicated server
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21:48:32  <Ammler> oh, and hello :-)
21:48:33  <Osai> can we transform 0000E5E8 to a serious value?
21:48:36  <PublicServer> Server has exited
21:48:36  <Osai> howdy
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21:48:46  <V453000> O_O
21:48:48  <V453000> oh¨
21:48:49  <kratt> lol
21:49:01  <kratt> server crashed
21:49:04  <planetmaker> err...
21:49:08  <Ammler> Osai: I would like something like "scrolltosign BBH01" :-)
21:49:28  <Osai> dunno if that is possible
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21:50:19  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #174 (r18927) | STAGE: Planning | | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: | Coopetition ladder:"
21:50:34  <Ammler> Osai: would need a patch of course, but :-)
21:50:49  <KenjiE20> ?" <-- heh who sent that command?
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21:51:02  <planetmaker> !?
21:51:10  <planetmaker> hm... can happen, I guess
21:51:15  <Boyinblue0> !password
21:51:15  <PublicServer> Boyinblue0: breads
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21:51:43  <Osai> !list openttdcoop
21:51:43  <avO> Osai: dl, download and ip
21:51:52  <db48x> bitrot :(
21:51:54  <Gegan> !dl
21:51:54  <PublicServer> Gegan: !dl autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x
21:51:54  <avO> Gegan: Sorry. There is no version of OpenTTD defined.
21:52:24  <Ammler> the server crash might be because I removed ttd graphics
21:52:24  <Gegan> !dl win64
21:52:24  <PublicServer> Gegan:
21:52:24  <avO> Gegan: Sorry. There is no version of OpenTTD defined.
21:52:36  <KenjiE20> avignon ?
21:52:42  <Osai> yea
21:52:44  <Osai> !list openttdcoop
21:52:44  <avO> Osai: dl, download, ip and time
21:52:48  <Osai> !time
21:52:48  <PublicServer> Osai: 22:52 (CET)
21:52:48  <avO> Osai: EU: 22:52 (CET) / US: 16:52 (EST)
21:52:54  <Osai> :P
21:52:59  <KenjiE20> .dev is free :)
21:53:09  <Osai> no, wanted to show it public too
21:53:12  <Osai> but, well
21:53:18  <Osai> !join
21:53:18  <PublicServer> Osai: try /join
21:53:18  <avO> Osai: operation succeeded.
21:53:28  <Ammler> hehe
21:53:30  <Osai> !part #openttdcoop
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21:53:34  <KenjiE20> well, depends whether this is demo or dev I guess
21:53:55  <Ammler> well, I guess, it is preparing live
21:54:27  <Osai> well, the openttdcoop plugin is learning fast
21:54:47  <Osai> KenjiE20: can you send me the link to your plugin for supybot again?
21:55:14  <KenjiE20> the source?
21:55:48  <Osai> yea
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22:00:38  <Boyinblue0> Brb guys watching Skins :)
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22:01:21  <Razaekel> hmm
22:01:27  <Razaekel> what year does maglev start in?
22:02:59  <Thorinbur> !password
22:02:59  <PublicServer> Thorinbur: breads
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22:06:33  <kratt> !password
22:06:33  <PublicServer> kratt: nagged
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22:16:57  <Ammler> Osai: ^ :-P
22:17:10  <Osai> :D
22:17:31  <KenjiE20> that works too :P
22:17:38  <Ammler> !screen
22:17:38  <PublicServer> *** Ammler made screenshot at 0000195A :
22:17:56  <Ammler> planetmaker: better graphics now?
22:18:36  <Ammler> !screen
22:18:36  <PublicServer> *** Ammler made screenshot at 0000294F :
22:18:58  <planetmaker> I guess so :-)
22:19:10  <planetmaker> But... hard to tell from the current screenshot tbh
22:20:19  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00002157 :
22:21:31  <planetmaker> !screen
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22:22:08  <PublicServer> <0sai> hey Thraxian
22:22:11  <PublicServer> <0sai> :)
22:23:19  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> hi Osai
22:23:34  <planetmaker> !screen
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22:23:35  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> I'm back from the dentist - 3 attempts to fill a cavity.  luckily, the last one held
22:23:59  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> autsch
22:24:09  <planetmaker> !screen
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22:24:22  * planetmaker is a spammer :-P
22:24:34  <planetmaker> you're watched, Osai ;-)
22:25:00  <V453000> !password
22:25:01  <PublicServer> V453000: wallop
22:25:08  <planetmaker> good night
22:25:18  <Ammler> hmm, looks like last action is in the middle?
22:25:28  <V453000> cya pm
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22:25:39  <Osai> does dbsetxl support 6tile ICE?
22:25:44  <Ammler> no
22:25:51  <Ammler> 4-8-12-16
22:25:56  <Osai> hmmm
22:26:05  <Ammler> well, the diesel one might be special
22:26:12  <Osai> dunno
22:26:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> grab maglev transrapid
22:26:33  <Osai> hmmm
22:26:42  <Osai> do we want transrapid?
22:26:50  <Ammler> dbsetxl transrapid is ugly
22:27:04  <Ammler> the cap is way too high
22:27:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> depends on how Extreme do you want to make the plan :)
22:27:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> I like transrapids :)
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22:27:51  <PublicServer> <0sai> hmmm, a future setting could be nice too
22:28:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> ?
22:28:51  <db48x> !password
22:28:51  <PublicServer> db48x: wallop
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22:31:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> Osai: feeder buses?
22:31:47  <PublicServer> <0sai> no
22:31:54  <PublicServer> <0sai> a seperate bus network
22:31:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh
22:32:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> interesting
22:32:04  <PublicServer> <0sai> I want to cover the map
22:32:06  <PublicServer> <0sai> ;D
22:32:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)))
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22:36:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> you have my vote Osai
22:37:37  <Osai> hehe, thx :D
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22:37:59  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> it is indeed a nice plan :-)
22:38:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> what is the City designs thingy?
22:38:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> like airports at the edge, central station in the centre of the city?
22:38:42  <PublicServer> <0sai> well, you can grow and shape a city as you like
22:38:57  <PublicServer> <0sai> but it should always consinst of a CS, bus station and airport
22:39:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> perfect :)
22:39:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh damn
22:39:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> one bad thing :D
22:39:27  <PublicServer> <0sai> but maybe we should limit the size
22:39:28  <PublicServer> <0sai> yes?
22:39:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> I am out tomorrow night
22:39:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
22:39:43  <PublicServer> <0sai> well, I am not here tomorrow and saturday
22:39:45  <PublicServer> <0sai> :/
22:39:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> :<
22:40:25  <PublicServer> <0sai> I limited city size to 75k
22:40:34  <PublicServer> <0sai> I don't want only 4 mega cities
22:40:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> that will be hard to keep
22:41:00  <PublicServer> <0sai> 75k / city?
22:41:07  <PublicServer> <0sai> if we have 20 cities
22:41:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> we should rather set some area where one city could be
22:41:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> so the builder of the city net could know how should it be big
22:42:31  <PublicServer> <0sai> hmm
22:42:38  <PublicServer> <0sai> I think 75k is quite much
22:42:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> true
22:43:03  <PublicServer> <0sai> I just want to force a spread
22:43:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> yep
22:43:14  <PublicServer> <0sai> instead of focusing mega cities
22:43:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> good point
22:44:12  <MeisterMarkus> !password
22:44:12  <PublicServer> MeisterMarkus: slicks
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22:46:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> I would like to have Sunningpool :) would look amazing with the lakes and the mountains nearby
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22:46:48  <V453000> !password
22:46:48  <PublicServer> V453000: slicks
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22:47:48  <PublicServer> <0sai> yea
22:47:51  <PublicServer> <0sai> looks cool
22:48:04  <PublicServer> <0sai> Gretford will be difficult :D
22:48:18  <PublicServer> <0sai> and so will Sartfield
22:48:20  <PublicServer> <0sai> :
22:48:21  <PublicServer> <0sai> ^^
22:48:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
22:48:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> I love difficult tasks
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22:50:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> I want Gretford!!! I see the future city already
22:50:19  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00004D59 :
22:50:48  <PublicServer> <db48x> Rufingford makes me quite happy
22:51:02  <PublicServer> <0sai> well guys
22:51:11  <PublicServer> <0sai> we don't have a voting board yet
22:51:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> lets get one?
22:51:58  <PublicServer> <0sai> yea
22:51:58  <PublicServer> <0sai> :D
22:52:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> in some lake?
22:53:32  <Thorinbur> wait... we do what?
22:53:45  <Thorinbur> Everyone takes a city and develops it?
22:54:04  <Osai> no
22:54:08  <Osai> its just one plan
22:54:16  <Osai> it has to be voted first
22:54:22  <Thorinbur> I know but it's got many folowers...
22:54:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> 2? :D
22:54:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> yet
22:54:43  <PublicServer> <db48x> Osai: avoid mountain passes?
22:54:52  <Osai> yes
22:55:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> dont build on mountains
22:55:01  <Osai> make use of the landscape
22:55:20  <PublicServer> <db48x> but if we avoid the passes, we'll have to build on the mountains
22:55:37  <Thorinbur> i am making doug for bread with my left hand
22:55:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> pass is over the top of the mountain
22:55:46  <Thorinbur> its hard to type:P
22:55:54  <PublicServer> <db48x> no, a pass is between two mountains
22:55:59  <PublicServer> <db48x> the top of a mountain is it's peak
22:56:11  <Osai> are you sure?
22:56:15  <PublicServer> <db48x> quite sure
22:56:26  <V453000> yes and if you cross the mountain with a road, the road is a pass, no?
22:56:47  <Osai>
22:56:48  <Osai> :D
22:57:10  <V453000> exactly
22:57:18  <db48x> yes, that's between the two peaks
22:57:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> but it is over the mountain omg :D
22:57:40  <Osai> well, but a pass is not through a tale
22:57:46  <Osai> err
22:57:48  <Osai> valley
22:58:12  <Thorinbur> !password
22:58:12  <PublicServer> Thorinbur: grated
22:58:19  <Osai> take this first one as a serious joke :D
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22:58:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> heh
22:58:39  <PublicServer> <0sai> tale ...
22:58:58  <PublicServer> <0sai> I could also write: use the valleys , coulnd't I?
22:59:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> just wanted to tell ya :)
22:59:15  <PublicServer> <0sai> ye
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23:03:35  <Thorinbur> btw really nice map there Osai
23:04:08  <Osai> thx
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23:05:18  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0001CFAF :
23:05:24  <Thorinbur> but i never played City game, and have 0(null) experience with cirty networks. so i would be able to spectate and than maybe join later, but later all towns would already have its major.
23:06:25  <Ammler> some majors can't stay long, they will be devoted ;-)
23:06:38  <Osai> well, its co-operative
23:06:53  <Osai> I think there are some things to do
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23:07:08  <Thorinbur> on the other hand there is no better way to learn other than try...
23:07:37  <Thorinbur> Woorst that can happen is being as you called it devoted:P
23:10:35  <Osai> yep
23:10:39  <Osai> its time for my bed now
23:10:42  <Osai> nite nite coopers
23:10:43  <Osai> :)
23:10:49  <Osai> cya saturday night
23:11:13  <V453000> bye
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23:20:07  <JamesG> !dl lin
23:20:07  <PublicServer> JamesG:
23:22:06  <JamesG> !passwor
23:22:10  <JamesG> !password
23:22:10  <PublicServer> JamesG: myopic
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23:22:52  <JamesG> !quickstart
23:22:57  <JamesG> @quickstart
23:22:59  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki -
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23:48:53  <sietse> !password
23:48:53  <PublicServer> sietse: weighs
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23:51:03  <dexter311> !password
23:51:03  <PublicServer> dexter311: turkey
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