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Log for #openttdcoop on 6th February 2010:
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00:04:55  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Argh damn lack of room
00:05:11  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> where are you working?
00:05:16  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Hendston
00:05:50  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I don't want to do so many climbs on the return track
00:06:00  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I guess I could change the station for a terminus
00:06:07  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> stupid farm + town + mountain :)
00:06:12  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Yeah no kidding
00:06:27  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> wild idea, reverse the station
00:06:44  <PublicServer> <Dr. Watson> could you loop the return track around the mountain, counterclockwise?
00:07:10  <PublicServer> <Qanael>  I could, it'd be really long though
00:07:35  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> or perhaps come this way
00:07:38  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I'll see if I can tunnel the last couple levels
00:08:08  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Hmm that could work
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00:08:57  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I'll do that
00:09:10  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> I even think you can fit a correct CL in the end without terraforming
00:09:20  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Yeah I should be able to
00:10:50  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> like a glove :)
00:10:59  <PublicServer> <Qanael> A job well done, I say
00:11:03  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Pretty good looking too
00:11:15  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> agreed
00:12:21  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0002C489: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002C489.png
00:12:34  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I could put in longer exits with a couple clicks of terraforming
00:12:53  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Actually I don't even need to do that
00:13:17  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> :)
00:13:59  <PublicServer> <Qanael> There we go
00:15:44  <XeryusTC> !dl win64
00:15:44  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r18985/openttd-trunk-r18985-windows-win64.zip
00:16:47  <XeryusTC> !password
00:16:47  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: meteor
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00:16:58  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Should farm trains use full load?
00:17:20  <KenjiE20> always
00:17:28  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Roger
00:17:43  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, i like the tldr version of the scenario
00:17:48  <KenjiE20> unless there's some weird clause
00:17:59  <KenjiE20> XeryusTC: heh, people would ask otherwise
00:19:53  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> people heve been screwing around with the sign list too much
00:20:20  <KenjiE20> oh?
00:20:45  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it was message board, network plan, slh 2, 4x "-", other slhs :o
00:21:05  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, voting board after network plan too, and after that some question about a prio
00:22:12  <KenjiE20> oh
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00:23:43  <PublicServer> <Kenji> ARG
00:23:57  <PublicServer> <Kenji> a) lost train b) non-shared's
00:24:00  <PublicServer> <Kenji> >_<
00:24:13  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> glad i dont display train info :o
00:24:39  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> as we still cant disable the vehicle is getting old message without disabling all others
00:24:53  <PublicServer> <Kenji> fidn my patch on FS
00:25:06  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> lazy
00:25:27  <PublicServer> <Sietse> no trainyard?
00:25:28  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> Brufinghill farm is really creative
00:27:23  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00025CD6: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00025CD6.png
00:27:55  <PublicServer> <Kenji> trains finally escaped
00:28:01  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Yeah I was watching that
00:28:07  <PublicServer> <Kenji> how the buggery did trains get into the pickup anyway/
00:28:18  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> meh, this game is boring
00:28:24  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> Kenji: seperate network apparently
00:28:29  <PublicServer> <Kenji> it sort of is
00:28:38  <PublicServer> <Sietse> I prefer mixed ones
00:28:48  <PublicServer> <Kenji> plan should've had the extras on
00:28:49  <PublicServer> <Sietse> more fun to watch merging and spliiting :)
00:28:50  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> the FPP drop just looks so dull
00:28:52  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I made those trains, sorry
00:28:56  <PublicServer> <Sietse> agree
00:28:58  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I guess I made them at the wrong depot?
00:29:05  <PublicServer> <Kenji> presumably
00:29:13  <PublicServer> <Kenji> you also built them without shared orders
00:29:30  <PublicServer> <Kenji> but then, there's only 1
00:29:33  <PublicServer> <Kenji> >_>
00:29:36  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Yeah there's only 1 of each, I was testing
00:29:39  <PublicServer> <Kenji> why bother with a single train?
00:29:43  <PublicServer> <Qanael> To see if something like this happened >.>
00:30:01  <PublicServer> <Kenji> see the !Qanael sign
00:30:07  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I'll put a few more in in a sec, or you can do it if you want - I gotta go
00:31:10  <PublicServer> <Kenji> each SLH usually has it's own injector, you should look for those
00:31:16  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Will do
00:31:24  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i hate people
00:31:31  <PublicServer> <Sietse> lol
00:31:32  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> Kenji: see Frunnley
00:31:44  <PublicServer> <Kenji> do I even want to know?
00:31:52  <PublicServer> <Kenji> oh
00:31:53  <PublicServer> <Kenji> that
00:32:00  <PublicServer> <Kenji> yea, I thought that too
00:32:05  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> could've done with 1/3 of the platforms :P
00:32:22  <PublicServer> <Sietse> hehehe
00:32:28  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> 1/4th actually :P
00:32:34  <PublicServer> <Kenji> giant loopedy loops for farms, is utter overkill
00:32:42  <PublicServer> <Sietse> someone expecting heavy production :)
00:32:53  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, wait for the other correction, 1/6th, didn't see the Wuntwood stations :P
00:33:00  <PublicServer> <Kenji> heh, I like Brufinghill
00:33:16  <PublicServer> <Kenji> apart from it's join
00:33:25  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yeah, brufinghil has massive queue space :o
00:33:30  <PublicServer> <Kenji> :)
00:33:57  <PublicServer> <Kenji> at least it's on the dead bit of the net
00:34:01  <PublicServer> <Sietse> don't forget the doubled tunnels :)
00:34:14  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh great, no depots where trains can enter :s
00:34:27  <PublicServer> <Kenji> that's a good thing XTC
00:34:36  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i want to delete some :P
00:34:42  <PublicServer> <Kenji> so set up a temp one
00:35:13  <PublicServer> <Kenji> lol Hendston
00:35:29  <PublicServer> <Kenji> spamming trains to a new pickup
00:35:34  <PublicServer> <Sietse> whahahah
00:36:32  <PublicServer> <Kenji> ew, a 2x45
00:36:49  <Qanael> Yeah yeah I know :P
00:36:50  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> fun heh :P
00:36:51  <Qanael> It's cleared now anyhow
00:37:00  <PublicServer> <Kenji> yea, I threw them out
00:37:05  <PublicServer> <Qanael> How mean
00:37:08  <PublicServer> <Qanael> You're mean to my poor trains
00:37:12  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> BLOODY FUCKING CUNT OF A TERMINUS STATION!
00:37:14  <PublicServer> <Qanael> ok, gotta go
00:37:19  <PublicServer> <Qanael> See ya all
00:37:25  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> take care
00:37:28  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> trains cant find the depot if they're heading for the drop :s
00:37:30  <PublicServer> <Kenji> Mark's good idea, of making trains do a full loop to space out
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00:38:07  <PublicServer> <Sietse> plenty of space for a SC
00:42:13  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> bubye stupid farms :P
00:42:25  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 000398C7: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000398C7.png
00:42:25  <PublicServer> <Kenji> heh
00:42:35  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> or rather, farm stations
00:42:59  <PublicServer> <Sietse> you removed some?
00:43:37  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yes
00:43:42  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> merged 3 into one :P
00:43:48  <PublicServer> <Sietse> walked?
00:43:52  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yes
00:43:54  <PublicServer> <Sietse> or they close?
00:43:55  <PublicServer> <Sietse> ok
00:45:08  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> I remember when stationwalking was an artform :)
00:45:48  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i remember when stationwalking could be done from one side of the map to the other ;)
00:45:55  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and leaving the station sign in place :P
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00:46:19  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> :)
00:46:22  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> although, that was changed not more than a year and a half ago
00:46:26  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> maybe just a year
00:46:34  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ottd development is too fast nowadays
00:47:07  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> wonder if mr Sid is checkin it's progress from time to time
00:47:18  <KenjiE20> sid?
00:47:31  <KenjiE20> sid?!
00:47:38  <KenjiE20> >_<;;
00:47:39  <hylje> sid meier's transport tycoon
00:47:49  <XeryusTC> :')
00:47:51  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> tze creator
00:48:00  <KenjiE20> Chris Sawyer.....
00:48:02  <KenjiE20> -sigh-
00:48:06  <XeryusTC> Chris indeed :P
00:48:19  <PublicServer> * MDGrein blames tiredness
00:48:55  <KenjiE20> Sawyer is quite literally insane though, all 4 games in (mostly) assembler
00:49:20  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> that is a tad sick yes
00:49:25  <PublicServer> <Sietse> that is insane ye :)
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00:55:03  <PublicServer> <Dr. Watson> hendston's backing up again
00:56:05  <PublicServer> <Sietse> 12 trains are way too much at start
00:56:05  <Razaekel> who the hell is crazy enough to code a game in assembler?
00:56:22  <Razaekel> that's just ridiculous
00:57:27  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00036EC2: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00036EC2.png
00:57:28  <hylje> games back then were smaller
00:57:33  <hylje> and tolerated more bugs
00:57:50  <hylje> performance was much more important then
00:58:04  <MDGrein> every spared bit was golden
00:58:57  <MDGrein> wasn't doom mostly assembler?
00:59:22  <MDGrein> I know bits and pieces of the Quake2 engine was assembler
01:00:22  <XeryusTC> TTO was full assembler, TTD was 98% assembler, the only parts of C in it were for windows api :P
01:01:10  <KenjiE20> if you had the windows version
01:01:33  <MDGrein> they sure knew how to make software back in the days
01:02:08  <MDGrein> nowadays a friggin driver for a printer is often around 100mb
01:02:22  <KenjiE20> but then they do more now
01:02:31  <MDGrein> one million extra little "helperapps" that you just want to strangle
01:02:46  <KenjiE20> back then it was make data RAW, draw dots
01:02:49  <hylje> thhats windows for you
01:02:57  <XeryusTC> they often come with loads of crappy apps indeed
01:03:07  <MDGrein> like if you install nero and just click through...
01:03:11  <KenjiE20> Creative are the worst
01:03:14  <MDGrein> omfg, it takes over the entire system
01:03:27  <KenjiE20> sound drivers as big as video drivers.... no thanks
01:03:28  <XeryusTC> usually if you want to print something you want it to be handled by the program you're working on, not the weird apps that you get with the printer
01:03:28  <PublicServer> <Dr. Watson> back in my  daus, I had to walk two hours to school, in snow, uphill both ways
01:03:54  <MDGrein> you poor thing :)
01:04:03  * KenjiE20 actually did walk uphill both ways to primary
01:04:14  <MDGrein> but atleast the Amiga has killer sound :)
01:04:19  <XeryusTC> hurray for the dutchlands, flatness all around
01:04:19  <MDGrein> and games for that matter
01:04:21  <PublicServer> <Sietse> all farms connected
01:04:22  <KenjiE20> pfft ST
01:04:26  <KenjiE20> :P
01:05:10  <XeryusTC> hmm, silly ubuntu
01:05:15  <XeryusTC> having no .org address :o
01:05:25  <MDGrein> yeah, like php
01:05:28  <KenjiE20> you didn't need to qualify that tbh
01:05:31  <MDGrein> donno how often i misstype that
01:05:42  <KenjiE20> "silly ubuntu" is valid, all by itsefl
01:05:46  <KenjiE20> itself*
01:05:49  <MDGrein> :)
01:05:49  <KenjiE20> :P
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01:06:50  <XeryusTC> im going to get myself some linux again this weekend
01:06:55  <XeryusTC> after some 3 or 4 years without it :o
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01:07:07  <PublicServer> <Dr. Watson> yay linux
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01:07:59  <sietse> ubuntu awesome for desktop usage imo
01:08:50  <KenjiE20|LT> ubuntu has lots of weird oddities
01:09:08  <KenjiE20|LT> doesn't make it unusable, just weird
01:09:38  <XeryusTC> ah well
01:09:43  <Ammler> yeah, ubunutu isn't really free :-)
01:09:45  <XeryusTC> i just need to get some linux running again
01:09:46  <Ammler> oh, and good night
01:09:54  <XeryusTC> as i am planning to finally migrate properly
01:10:11  <sietse> I am actually fine with ubuntu
01:10:20  * KenjiE20|LT uses Slackware, but then I'm odd
01:10:36  <XeryusTC> i used to use fedora
01:10:45  <XeryusTC> but that fucked up a few times :o
01:10:46  <MDGrein> I'm running a few slackware servers
01:11:00  <sietse> I just really like apt and used to debian based distros
01:11:16  <Ammler> don't trust software from .com ;-)
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01:11:38  <MDGrein> i'm off
01:11:42  <MDGrein> c ya'll another day
01:11:46  <PublicServer> <Sietse> gnight
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01:14:15  <Ammler> but more important than the distro is the Windows Manager....
01:15:37  <sietse> definitely
01:16:09  <sietse> but for most purposes / users Gnome or KDE will suffice
01:16:10  <XeryusTC> quite
01:16:25  <Ammler> yeah, but is that possible with ubuntu?
01:16:35  <sietse> and gives generally taken the nicest look
01:16:44  <Ammler> or xfce4, lxde might also be nice
01:16:46  <sietse> you can run whatever you want
01:17:05  <sietse> I only ran Fluxbox previously (on Debian)
01:17:12  <Ammler> ok, thought you need kubuntu and such
01:17:19  <Ammler> or xubuntu..
01:17:26  <sietse> kubuntu is to installer for it
01:17:44  <sietse> but you can change aswell
01:18:03  <sietse> xfce and gnome are default available
01:18:34  <sietse> aaha... game paused
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01:18:59  <sietse> good moment to quit :)
01:19:10  <sietse> and start being more productive!
01:20:09  <Ammler> sleeping?
01:20:16  <Ammler> well, I do... :-)
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01:21:39  <ixiion> !go
01:21:46  <ixiion> !quickstart
01:21:53  <ixiion> @help
01:21:53  <Webster> ixiion: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
01:22:12  <KenjiE20|LT> try re-reading the topic
01:22:17  <ixiion> :P
01:22:40  <XeryusTC> :')
01:22:42  <ixiion> help also work with the @ sign
01:22:45  <XeryusTC> nice one :P
01:23:02  <ixiion> hello ,btw
01:24:12  <ixiion> any germans here playing? :P
01:24:25  <XeryusTC> only 40% of us
01:24:44  <XeryusTC> or well, german/swiss/austrians
01:25:10  <ixiion> okay then its easier to communicate :P
01:25:32  <XeryusTC> we only use english in here
01:26:04  <ixiion> ic
01:26:51  <ixiion> damn i forgot the <ironie> tags again
01:28:12  <ixiion> are you playing currently ?
01:28:46  <XeryusTC> probably
01:28:51  <XeryusTC> the servers are always open
01:29:07  <XeryusTC> could be that no one is online at this time though
01:29:25  <ixiion> that was my question
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01:29:34  <ixiion> however
01:29:36  <grim4593> !download win64
01:29:36  <PublicServer> grim4593: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r18985/openttd-trunk-r18985-windows-win64.zip
01:30:11  <ixiion> does the win64 version has any advantages?
01:30:29  <grim4593> no idea, but am on a 64 bit OS, so why not :)
01:30:30  <ixiion> sse2 or something ?
01:30:41  <ixiion> k
01:31:11  <Razaekel> no advantage
01:31:14  <grim4593> i somehow doubt the game uses too many 64 bit integers and so forth.
01:32:00  <ixiion> but you could use compile flags like sse2 wich every 64bit cpu supports
01:32:26  <grim4593> yeah
01:32:39  <ixiion> every x86_64 i meant
01:33:09  <ixiion> then your trains might run faster xD
01:33:23  <grim4593> lol
01:33:50  <grim4593> well i remember on my laptop i couldn't run some of the public games in here once the train level got high enough
01:34:15  <ixiion> hmm
01:34:34  <ixiion> blame the developers for bloated code :P
01:34:41  <grim4593> nahg
01:34:56  <ixiion> the original version was running on a 386 66mhz
01:35:12  <grim4593> i blamed the 1000+ trains the "developers" of the network plan called for :P
01:35:46  <ixiion> okay true
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01:36:58  <ixiion> i was actually looking for a feature wich i have seen ages ago in a patched ottd version and are still missing so much
01:37:06  <grim4593> oh?
01:37:26  <ixiion> it was a waypoint wich worked as a traffic counter
01:37:51  <ixiion> was pretty need to measure your network contructions
01:37:55  <ixiion> neat
01:38:05  <grim4593> hmm
01:38:31  <ixiion> like 14 train last month / max ever 20
01:39:08  <ixiion> do you know if there is a patch for the current version of this ?
01:39:12  <grim4593> i do not.
01:39:18  <grim4593> it sounds very useful though
01:39:20  <XeryusTC> probably outdated
01:40:14  <ixiion> my programming skill actually are not the best, i have read the old diff but were not able to get it working again
01:42:37  <ixiion> does the 1.0 version of ottd also get full background sounds? or are they not finished yet ( sry iam a bit out of date)
01:44:43  <ixiion> btw. the old patch thread : http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=24393
01:44:45  <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums • View topic - Train counter (at www.tt-forums.net)
01:45:06  <ixiion> wow the bot is good :)
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05:06:55  <Qanael> Hi everyone
05:07:06  <Qanael> !playercount
05:07:06  <PublicServer> Qanael: Number of players: 0
05:08:35  <Qanael> !password
05:08:35  <PublicServer> Qanael: trough
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06:39:04  <jondisti> !password
06:39:04  <PublicServer> jondisti: papacy
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06:43:18  <pasteur> !players
06:43:20  <PublicServer> pasteur: Client 316 (Orange) is jond1sti, in company 1 (OTTDC PSG#175)
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09:36:11  <haseo> !info
09:36:11  <PublicServer> haseo: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'OTTDC PSG#175'  Year Founded: 1950  Money: 160389597  Loan: 0  Value: 217760817  (T:238, R:0, P:8, S:0) unprotected
09:36:45  <haseo> !players
09:36:46  <PublicServer> haseo: There are currently no clients connected to the server
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09:40:09  <haseo> !passwor
09:40:13  <haseo> !password
09:40:13  <PublicServer> haseo: blared
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10:03:42  <ODM> mornin
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10:06:50  <mitooo> !playercount
10:06:50  <PublicServer> mitooo: Number of players: 0
10:06:55  <mitooo> !password
10:06:55  <PublicServer> mitooo: squads
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10:07:29  <subz> 8)
10:07:47  <mitooo> hey :)
10:08:17  <ODM> ellow
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10:14:04  <ODM> !password
10:14:04  <PublicServer> ODM: capers
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10:17:11  <PublicServer> <0DM> woo running trains
10:17:36  <PublicServer> <Mitooo> impressed?
10:17:45  <PublicServer> <0DM> yes, ive never seen a train run:p
10:18:20  <PublicServer> <Mitooo> and a jam ?
10:18:36  <PublicServer> <0DM> nah, im a total newbie:P
10:20:25  <PublicServer> <0DM> hmm the food bit is a tad confusing:p
10:24:35  <^Spike^> ODM the reason i also wondered what the other plans were...
10:24:36  <PublicServer> <0DM> how long have you been playing anyway?:)
10:24:41  <^Spike^> but seems ppl saw the need to delete them
10:24:48  <^Spike^> don't see why.. seeing the space but well
10:25:06  <PublicServer> <0DM> we'll survive
10:25:09  <PublicServer> <0DM> also, goodmoaning:p
10:25:15  <^Spike^> :)
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10:26:33  <PublicServer> <0DM> ohno you use a normal ingame nick nowadays:P
10:26:57  <PublicServer> <Spike> i was forced to...
10:27:18  <PublicServer> <Spike> some ppl from the countries to the east/southeast of us.. can't type the ^
10:27:19  <PublicServer> <Spike> :)
10:27:24  <PublicServer> <0DM> heh:p
10:27:56  <PublicServer> <0DM> right, im gonna get some food
10:28:03  <PublicServer> <0DM> and then im actually gonna build some stuff
10:28:06  <PublicServer> <Spike> oeh.. seems someone fixed the ugly/bad i signed..
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10:28:56  <PublicServer> <0DM> hmm check !say what now?
10:29:23  <PublicServer> <Spike> S-Curve
10:29:31  <PublicServer> <Spike> fpp pickup has TL 3 so
10:29:32  <PublicServer> <0DM> no i mean... why is it there:P
10:29:44  <PublicServer> <0DM> the whole track
10:30:11  <PublicServer> <0DM> like if one set of tracks is full, try another?
10:30:13  <PublicServer> <Spike> good question..
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10:30:40  <PublicServer> <Spike> ask combuster? :)
10:30:41  <PublicServer> <Spike> he made it
10:30:43  <PublicServer> <Spike> :D
10:31:00  <PublicServer> <0DM> hehe, fair point
10:31:25  <PublicServer> <Spike> i didn't build much lately... mostly watched cause of college stuff
10:31:37  <PublicServer> <0DM> i didnt build anything at all:( need to get back into it
10:32:35  <PublicServer> <0DM> i see some really weird stuff:D
10:32:49  <PublicServer> <Spike> you missed weird games aswell.. :)
10:32:54  <PublicServer> <0DM> hehe
10:32:59  <PublicServer> <0DM> weirder than 121?
10:33:06  <PublicServer> <Spike> cam
10:33:09  <PublicServer> <Spike> can't tell
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10:37:22  <PublicServer> <0DM> heh
10:37:28  <PublicServer> <0DM> mmmm kampioentje zeeuws spek
10:37:42  <^Spike^> ?
10:38:00  <PublicServer> <0DM> very tasty:p
10:38:05  <PublicServer> <Spike> ah.
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10:44:29  <XeryusTC2> hmm
10:44:40  <XeryusTC2> why am i unable to connect to the bouncer?
10:44:41  <PublicServer> <0DM> ohno xeryus multiplied:O
10:47:08  <PublicServer> <0DM> i have no idea
10:47:08  * XeryusTC2 pokes Ammler 
10:47:34  <XeryusTC2> i get reconnecting too fast all the time :S
10:47:45  <PublicServer> <0DM> slow down^^
10:50:22  <PublicServer> <0DM> heh, check predingtown valley livestock
10:50:24  <PublicServer> <0DM> cheats!:D
10:50:36  <XeryusTC2> doesn't matter if i wait two minutes :s
10:52:15  <XeryusTC2> and then the internets died :s
10:52:34  <PublicServer> <0DM> it doesnt sound good
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10:53:25  <XeryusTC2> hmm
10:53:29  <XeryusTC2> just gayness all around
10:53:32  <XeryusTC2> weird ubuntu :o
10:54:05  <^Spike^> ....
10:54:13  <^Spike^> XeryusTC what crapp provider you have...
10:54:15  <^Spike^> cappy*
10:54:27  <PublicServer> <0DM> crappy*
10:54:36  <^Spike^> yeah that...
10:54:37  <^Spike^> :D
10:54:43  <PublicServer> <0DM> typing's hard^^
10:54:49  <^Spike^> it's still morning..
10:54:51  <^Spike^> ;)
10:54:57  <PublicServer> <0DM> just!
10:55:01  <^Spike^> STILL! :D
10:55:11  <PublicServer> <0DM> hehe
10:55:26  <XeryusTC2> * Connected. Now logging in... * Closing link [Please try again later - reconnecting too fast] * Disconnected (Remote host closed socket).
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10:55:58  <^Spike^> to the bnc?
10:56:15  <^Spike^> don't connect for 5 mins or so.. and try again?
10:56:31  <XeryusTC2> yes
10:56:31  <XeryusTC2> that's what i get basicly
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10:59:29  <PublicServer> <0DM> are farm productions affected by seasons?
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11:07:37  <XeryusTC> there, done
11:07:47  <XeryusTC> stupid case sensitivity
11:07:56  <PublicServer> <0DM> lol
11:08:01  <PublicServer> <0DM> buce ibe
11:08:05  <PublicServer> <0DM> uh nice one
11:08:38  <XeryusTC> well, and that xchat probably tried to connect to the server multiple times didnt help that much either
11:09:39  <XeryusTC> w00t
11:09:57  <PublicServer> <0DM> someone is happy:p
11:10:06  <XeryusTC> some' s testing stuff :P
11:10:12  <XeryusTC> someone*
11:11:43  * XeryusTC test
11:12:37  * XeryusTC tests some more
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11:12:57  <ODM> whatcha testin?
11:14:02  <XeryusTC> text
11:14:43  <XeryusTC> hmm
11:14:46  <ODM> uh okey
11:14:48  <XeryusTC> broken :s
11:14:50  <ODM> if you say so:P
11:15:06  <XeryusTC> less broken :D
11:15:11  <XeryusTC> actually, working :D
11:17:14  <XeryusTC> and my internet connection keeps bailing out on me :s
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11:23:35  <XeryusTC> lou lou lou, opera under linux :D
11:24:32  <XeryusTC> or well, i will have opera under linux when the packages get updated :P
11:25:26  <ODM> geek! cough
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11:28:51  <V453000> !password
11:28:51  <PublicServer> V453000: weaves
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11:29:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> hello there
11:30:46  <ODM> mornin
11:30:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi ODM :)
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11:34:25  <ODM> hows it goin?
11:34:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think quite fine so far
11:38:56  <XeryusTC> now it's working :D
11:39:05  <V453000> hm?
11:39:11  <XeryusTC> opera :P
11:39:21  <V453000> :)
11:39:24  <ODM> opera needs a working F6
11:41:22  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> SLH03 is bugged
11:41:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> where
11:41:51  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> balancing doesnt work when exiting SE
11:42:05  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> trains pick left track and wait at huge prio
11:42:10  <ODM> get the flysquatter:D
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11:42:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> hmmm
11:43:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think at least for now it is quite fine
11:43:11  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> now
11:43:44  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> again... middle track is free
11:44:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think this is basically how it should work
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11:44:32  <ODM> !password
11:44:32  <PublicServer> ODM: swords
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11:44:56  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> just see a lot of trains waiting even though middle track is free
11:45:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
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11:45:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> that doesnt matter much I think
11:45:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> the prio could also be shorter
11:46:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> empty trains accelerate very fast
11:47:13  <PublicServer> <0DM> hm thats a bit weird indeed
11:47:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> SLH 03?
11:47:54  <PublicServer> <0DM> yeah the selection thing
11:47:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
11:48:06  <PublicServer> <0DM> apparently they like the other track alot more^^
11:48:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> ye :|
11:50:45  <PublicServer> <0DM> nop, no clue:P
11:51:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> I tried this as well :)
11:51:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> no idea
11:51:02  <PublicServer> <0DM> maybe they're allergic
11:51:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
11:51:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> or just stupid
11:51:44  <PublicServer> <0DM> CL == TL?
11:51:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
11:51:50  <PublicServer> <0DM> k
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11:52:35  <PublicServer> <0DM> heh, just had a good giggle here
11:52:38  <PublicServer> <0DM> check !this
11:52:45  <XeryusTC> !screen
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11:53:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> hmmm
11:53:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> damn
11:53:48  <PublicServer> <0DM> crafty cumbrian bastards:P
11:54:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> cumbrian? :D
11:54:11  <PublicServer> <0DM> yeah why not
11:54:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok :)
11:54:22  <PublicServer> <0DM> the junction still seems a bit useless though^^
11:54:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
11:54:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> wait
11:54:38  <PublicServer> <0DM> just leave it till were actually gonna connect it
11:54:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> ?
11:55:18  <PublicServer> <0DM> we dont even know if the track is gonna go there
11:55:23  <PublicServer> <0DM> probably not:p
11:55:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> it will
11:55:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> well
11:55:52  <PublicServer> <0DM> uh i meant the other side;)
11:55:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> maybe not :D
11:55:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh
11:56:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah
11:56:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok then I will leave it as this
11:56:25  <PublicServer> <0DM> lets see if i can get some work done
11:56:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> the transfers system needs work
11:57:00  <PublicServer> <0DM> yup
11:57:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> I actually dont get it why the transfers have 2x TL4 when it is 1x TL3 and 1x TL2
11:57:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> for example Transfer 01
11:57:33  <PublicServer> <0DM> i wondered that myself
11:57:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> or 04
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11:57:47  <PublicServer> <0DM> feel free to shorten, though it cant hurt ofcourse
11:57:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
11:58:03  <PublicServer> <0DM> 04 is definately confusing me, track layout wise:p
11:58:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> O_O
11:58:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> haseo ...
11:58:42  <PublicServer> <0DM> he's quite new?:p
11:58:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> well
11:58:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> he is not just new
11:59:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> he is very active and willing to build ...
11:59:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> more than others I think
11:59:26  <KenjiE20> but?
11:59:32  <PublicServer> <0DM> thats good, but he needs some guidance im guessing?
11:59:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> but doesnt accept many advices ... for example from me
11:59:54  <PublicServer> <0DM> thats less good
12:00:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> he will get to agree it in time I believe :)
12:00:34  <PublicServer> <0DM> hehe
12:00:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> damn the more I speak english, the worse it is :D
12:00:49  <PublicServer> <0DM> hows the level of building been in past games?
12:01:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> level of building?
12:01:08  <PublicServer> <0DM> yeah, shitty or good:p
12:01:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> you mean how were we lazy? :D
12:01:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh
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12:01:12  <KenjiE20> eh...
12:01:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> hmmm
12:01:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> quite low
12:01:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> last game was screwed on some places
12:01:34  <PublicServer> <0DM> :(
12:01:39  <PublicServer> <0DM> hope we can change that a bit
12:01:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> me too
12:02:22  <PublicServer> <0DM> by the way, im thinking of making a boost map/game for 176, yay?
12:02:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> it was bad ... new players took over several cities and grew them ... just grew, without a proper Sbahn or just somehow predicting how will it grow
12:02:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> boooost :)
12:02:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> wasnt here for quite some time
12:02:47  <PublicServer> <0DM> doubt we will beat the record, but we can have a go.
12:03:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> you mean the 100k from 121?
12:03:04  <KenjiE20> good, cause I'm running low on ideas
12:03:11  <PublicServer> <0DM> yeah the 100k
12:03:16  <PublicServer> <0DM> im thinking 5 factories:p[
12:03:21  <KenjiE20> 121k
12:03:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
12:03:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> cool
12:03:41  <PublicServer> <0DM> 121? it couldnt have reached that:p
12:03:56  <KenjiE20> dunno, my memory isn't working today
12:03:59  <KenjiE20> @records
12:03:59  <Webster> #openttdcoop Records: Clients: 24 | Trains: 2000 (PSG#131) - 2522 (PZG#5) | Single cargo output: 100,367 (PSG#121) | World Pop: 3,075,319 (PSG#101) 
12:04:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
12:04:03  <PublicServer> <0DM> it was 107k or something
12:04:06  <KenjiE20> fair enough
12:04:12  <PublicServer> <0DM> hehe
12:04:24  <PublicServer> <0DM> i love how that was like the first time we realised industries had limits
12:04:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> wow the trains unload for quite long time
12:04:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
12:04:45  <KenjiE20> but anyway, ODM, yes make maps, I'm about out of them
12:04:54  <PublicServer> <0DM> hehe ok:)
12:05:03  <PublicServer> <0DM> we'll see how i fail, been ages
12:05:12  <KenjiE20> most of the last 2 dozen or so have been mine I think
12:05:16  <PublicServer> <0DM> thinking of putting it in the corner instead of center this time
12:05:37  <KenjiE20> so increasing ML widths
12:05:57  <PublicServer> <0DM> forcing some creativity out of people;)
12:06:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> I have a very small scenario with a huge hill and high train weight multiplier settings ... the game is very interesting and entertaining bu tthat would better for OSQC probably as it is just 128^2
12:06:08  <KenjiE20> I tried that this game ODM
12:06:18  <KenjiE20> and now we have a line
12:06:20  <KenjiE20> :P
12:06:24  <PublicServer> <0DM> :p
12:06:29  <PublicServer> <0DM> still, i like the scenario
12:06:40  <PublicServer> <0DM> good to be back^^
12:06:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)))
12:07:00  <KenjiE20> buster's was the more interesting, personally, but this is what 'the people' wanted
12:07:08  <KenjiE20> so who'm I to argue
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12:07:13  <PublicServer> <0DM> what was his plan?
12:07:14  <KenjiE20> oh wait
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12:07:35  <V453000> I have to agree with you Kenji
12:07:40  <V453000> !password
12:07:40  <PublicServer> V453000: aortas
12:07:46  <KenjiE20> his was the farm only grid lower and FPP star upper
12:07:53  <PublicServer> <0DM> hm okey
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12:08:08  <KenjiE20> with the E/W food using the ML spurs up the sides
12:08:18  <KenjiE20> and a bank in the lower corner
12:08:20  <PublicServer> <0DM> planning isnt my forte:P ive only ever won once
12:09:05  <KenjiE20> <- none
12:09:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> really?
12:09:15  <KenjiE20> but then I think I've only made like 3 plans
12:09:32  <PublicServer> <0DM> better at the building:)
12:09:38  <KenjiE20> V453000: yes, but I make bigger plans, in the maps :P
12:10:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> I remember the first plan I made ... I made a HUGE plan with totally high amount of signs, completely chaos in reading :D
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12:10:40  <PublicServer> <0DM> i do that aswell:(
12:10:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> I am trying to avoid it lately
12:11:15  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> less is more :)
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12:13:52  <Intexon> !password
12:13:52  <PublicServer> Intexon: insure
12:13:59  <PublicServer> <0DM> im slowly starting on the food network
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12:14:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> I see ... very good
12:14:15  <KenjiE20> omnom?
12:14:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will build some transfer
12:14:25  <PublicServer> <0DM> trying to follow low TF rule^^ always nice
12:14:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes :)
12:14:52  <KenjiE20> remember that valley line that got built in 132?
12:14:58  <PublicServer> <0DM> no
12:15:08  <KenjiE20> that was really pretty, right till it got pulled p :(
12:15:11  <KenjiE20> up*
12:15:14  <V453000> @psgsave132
12:15:18  <PublicServer> <0DM> :(
12:15:22  <V453000> what is the command, kenji?
12:15:24  <KenjiE20> 132 kinda failed
12:15:27  <KenjiE20> you need a space
12:15:46  <V453000> @psgsave 132
12:15:46  <Webster> PSG 132 Archive entry; http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/PublicServer:Archive_-_Games_131_-_140#gameid_132
12:15:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> win!
12:15:58  <KenjiE20> 132's plan changed mid-building, which was sort of.....
12:16:09  <ODM> aah that one
12:16:11  <ODM> didnt like it:P
12:16:28  <KenjiE20> it started out nice, with ML's snaking everywhere
12:16:40  <KenjiE20> then the plan changed, and they went straight over
12:16:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> :<
12:16:58  <PublicServer> <0DM> crafty cumbrians.
12:17:09  <V453000> how could a plan change?
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12:18:26  <PublicServer> <0DM> mismanagement^^
12:18:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> :|
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12:19:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> I see SLH03 has no farms :D
12:19:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh
12:19:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> one
12:19:44  <PublicServer> <0DM> prospect:PO
12:19:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> later :)
12:20:13  <KenjiE20> I was amused by the apparent surprise at farms shutting in the mountains, on SLH01
12:20:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> hmmm
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12:20:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> well the ML expands only one line at the whole mountain area so not many farms are expected there
12:21:15  <PublicServer> <0DM> most will be south indeed
12:25:03  <PublicServer> <0DM> hmm my head isnt cooperating
12:25:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
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12:26:23  <V453000> !password
12:26:24  <PublicServer> V453000: insure
12:26:26  <PublicServer> <0DM> boom
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12:29:42  <PublicServer> <0DM> my speed is appaling:(
12:29:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> rusty? :)
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12:35:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> ODM! lets connect !A with !B ?
12:36:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> sry for the exclamation mark at you :D
12:36:11  <PublicServer> <0DM> lol:p
12:36:37  <PublicServer> <0DM> dont think they connect together like that
12:36:42  <PublicServer> <0DM> i have to finish the main loop first
12:36:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok
12:36:58  <PublicServer> <0DM> *points at !Connection plan*
12:37:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> I see
12:37:31  <PublicServer> <0DM> are you decent at mergers?^^
12:37:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> depends
12:37:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> where?
12:37:55  <PublicServer> <0DM> check !merge 4>3
12:38:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D damn
12:38:08  <PublicServer> <0DM> :p
12:38:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> quite bad numbers
12:38:17  <PublicServer> <0DM> yup
12:38:35  <PublicServer> <0DM> oh, something i want to see in a game soon: big trains
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12:38:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> long?
12:38:47  <PublicServer> <0DM> yeah:p
12:38:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> :/
12:39:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> I like short
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12:39:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> also have a game with TL1 only ^^
12:39:25  <PublicServer> <0DM> hehe
12:39:47  <KenjiE20> did that, on a PZ
12:39:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> I saw :)
12:40:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> but with maglev :) I used rail
12:40:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> and on 256^2
12:40:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> was quite fun
12:40:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> one of the best games I have ever played
12:40:34  <PublicServer> <0DM> interesting for sure
12:40:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> the hubs with CL1 looked awsum :D
12:41:06  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> tight little buggers :)
12:41:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
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12:41:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi combuster :)
12:41:29  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> but with tons of bridges/tunnels i would assume
12:41:36  <PublicServer> <0DM> eya guys
12:41:37  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Hi Vbignum
12:41:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> combuster: thanks for the things you did in game :) I like it all
12:41:48  <PublicServer> <Combuster> I see my plan got approved?
12:41:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
12:41:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> very nice
12:42:08  <PublicServer> <0DM> im sortof trying to build it:p
12:42:22  <V453000> MDGrein: I made every bridge or tunnel long 3 so it was fine
12:42:27  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Its a bit like retrofitting
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12:43:36  <PublicServer> <0DM> what was the button to repeat bridge bruild?
12:43:39  <PublicServer> <0DM> build*
12:43:42  <PublicServer> <Combuster> ctrl+drag
12:43:48  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> cool, the FPP is hardly distinguishable from the station around it :)
12:43:49  <PublicServer> <0DM> tyvm
12:44:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> the candy at FPP is nice :) combuster...
12:44:34  <PublicServer> <Combuster> The drop's not mine
12:44:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> I really liked candying the drop
12:44:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> was something different as there are the two track directions
12:44:54  <PublicServer> <0DM> somoene's been really creative
12:45:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> me :)
12:45:11  <PublicServer> <0DM> i dont think ive ever seen that station design
12:45:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> I built it once in a PSG
12:45:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> but smaller
12:45:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> and it was almost unused
12:45:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> so :|
12:45:36  <PublicServer> <0DM> heh
12:45:43  <PublicServer> <0DM> creativity is always nice
12:45:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure :)
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12:46:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> the most funny thing is that this type of terminus is probably my very oldest "first advanced station" design :)
12:47:00  <PublicServer> <0DM> i want to build a spinner station again^^
12:47:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> not with the "twin entry-exit" but just a signle branch :)
12:47:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> spinner?
12:47:21  <PublicServer> <0DM> yeah:P has trains going in all 4 directions
12:47:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
12:47:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> I thought about a station in circle
12:47:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> that trains go from the outside inside
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12:47:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> until they find a platform
12:47:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> then go through tunnel outside the circle
12:48:02  <PublicServer> <0DM> heh crossing the mainline takes ages:D
12:48:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
12:48:32  <PublicServer> <0DM> lol, creative merger
12:48:39  <PublicServer> <0DM> its true that the line without a choice will be most empty:)
12:48:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
12:48:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
12:49:12  <PublicServer> <0DM> you could add some penalties to force the other 3 inward, but not sure if thatll help
12:49:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> you read my mind
12:49:38  <PublicServer> <0DM> not the first time i play;)
12:49:41  <PublicServer> <Combuster> V453000, did you find the looparound tracks in the FPP pickup?
12:49:57  <PublicServer> <0DM> i labeled one !say what now:p
12:49:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> I see them, yes
12:50:02  <PublicServer> <Combuster> the pickup is a circle layout
12:50:05  <PublicServer> <0DM> was a bit confused as to what is the use
12:50:16  <PublicServer> <0DM> but one doesnt circle, right?
12:50:19  <PublicServer> <0DM> the bottom one
12:50:27  <PublicServer> <Combuster> true, true
12:50:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> interesting
12:50:38  <PublicServer> <0DM> so is that the pit of doom?
12:50:55  <PublicServer> <Combuster> sortof
12:51:02  <PublicServer> <0DM> then theres just too many trains:p
12:51:03  <PublicServer> <Combuster> but it's got plenty of queueing space
12:51:28  <PublicServer> <0DM> combuster, where do you want the fancy junction for food?
12:51:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> these are interesting :)
12:52:29  <PublicServer> <0DM> do the pres do anything? wouldnt it function the same if you added just one set of doubles?
12:52:45  <PublicServer> <Combuster> in my station
12:52:59  <PublicServer> <Combuster> force the trains to go around if there's no platform
12:53:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah but would it work without the exit ones?
12:53:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think it would
12:53:20  <PublicServer> <0DM> i meant just use without any pres
12:53:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> I use the same at transfer 03
12:53:23  <PublicServer> <0DM> just add doubles
12:53:24  <PublicServer> <Combuster> more like, forcing one way signals
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12:54:01  <PublicServer> <0DM> you need the doubles for deadend, and singles for no returning trains?
12:54:22  <PublicServer> <Combuster> not need
12:54:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> why should they return there?
12:54:32  <PublicServer> <Combuster> but that was the idea
12:54:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
12:54:40  <PublicServer> <0DM> ok:p
12:54:44  <PublicServer> <0DM> he had a lot of time^^
12:55:20  <PublicServer> <0DM> are the trains alright with long hills?
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12:55:49  <PublicServer> <0DM> oh its downhill, nvm
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12:57:41  <PublicServer> <0DM> darn another merger:p
12:57:46  <V453000> I think they have enough power anyway
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12:57:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> so np with the hill
12:58:20  <PublicServer> <0DM> you changed screen while in a sentence?:p
12:58:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> ^^
12:58:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> I do that often :D
12:58:43  <XeryusTC> hmm
12:58:53  <XeryusTC> maybe i should get OpenGFX with my linux install of ottd :o
13:01:03  <PublicServer> <0DM> need
13:01:12  <PublicServer> <0DM> now how am i gonna do this:D
13:01:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> what where who why when?
13:01:33  <PublicServer> <0DM> with the merge:p
13:01:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
13:01:48  <PublicServer> <0DM> oh, with need, i meant neat
13:02:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> that explains something :D
13:02:12  <PublicServer> <0DM> its early ok!
13:02:25  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> agreed
13:02:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> you are from Germany, arent you ODM? :D
13:02:44  <PublicServer> <Combuster> wrong!
13:02:47  <PublicServer> <0DM> wrong.
13:02:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh
13:02:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> damn
13:02:56  <PublicServer> <0DM> what makes you think that?:O
13:03:01  <V453000> dont know :D
13:03:24  <V453000> ok sorry :)
13:04:02  <PublicServer> <0DM> right, this must be the ugliest thing ever:D
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13:04:07  <V453000> still ... I wanted to say that you have the same time as me and here it is 14 03
13:04:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh yeah
13:04:20  <PublicServer> <0DM> only just lost the hangover, so its still early
13:04:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> fear not I got drunk too yesterday
13:04:57  <PublicServer> <0DM> after an entire night of pool, i had a score of 0:p
13:05:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
13:05:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> cool
13:05:16  <PublicServer> <0DM> was -5 at one point, so its alright:p
13:05:17  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> isn't that a bit of an achievement
13:05:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> if we played together you would get at least 1 :D
13:05:39  <PublicServer> <0DM> are you good?
13:05:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh so :)
13:05:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
13:05:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> I almost never played pool :)
13:06:00  <PublicServer> <0DM> ooh you mean against eachother, i thought team:p
13:06:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
13:07:52  <PublicServer> <Combuster> erm
13:07:55  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> farms really are slow with the production increases...
13:07:59  <PublicServer> <0DM> they are
13:08:06  <PublicServer> <Combuster> what's with this low-tf rule
13:08:34  <PublicServer> <0DM> oh thats not nice
13:08:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
13:08:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> haseo I guess
13:08:57  <PublicServer> <0DM> besides, that line shouldnt be there anyway
13:08:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> or maybe not
13:09:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> dont know
13:09:04  <PublicServer> <0DM> atleast not to FPP pickip
13:09:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol yes :)
13:09:24  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Any problems if I tear apart that hub and tracks?
13:09:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> no objections
13:09:47  <PublicServer> <0DM> i am undecided about spots
13:10:37  <PublicServer> <0DM> if anyone recognizes that, i am proud:p
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13:11:58  <V453000> !password
13:11:58  <PublicServer> V453000: snugly
13:12:03  <XeryusTC> !ip
13:12:03  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: ps.openttdcoop.org
13:12:17  <V453000> wifi at home -.-
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13:12:27  <PublicServer> <0DM> go wifi!
13:12:29  <XeryusTC> !grf
13:12:29  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/GRF (Version 7.3)
13:12:42  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> wifi pwns :)
13:12:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> wifi itself it good
13:12:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> but this one
13:12:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> ...
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13:12:57  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> d-link?
13:13:01  <PublicServer> <0DM> woo, ive built something:D
13:13:03  <PublicServer> <0DM> sucky:p
13:14:16  <PublicServer> <0DM> hmm, bonnbrdige looks kinda useless:p
13:14:24  <PublicServer> <0DM> the single farm on the line died
13:14:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> heh
13:14:42  <PublicServer> <0DM> thats a bit sad
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13:14:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> prospect later
13:15:53  <PublicServer> <0DM> so combuster, was this what you had in mind?
13:16:17  <PublicServer> <Combuster> what?
13:16:24  <PublicServer> <0DM> with the food plan
13:16:26  <PublicServer> <Combuster> the TF cleanup, yes
13:16:36  <PublicServer> <Combuster> looks good
13:16:42  <PublicServer> <0DM> no i mean the other bit
13:16:51  <PublicServer> <0DM> the loop and exits etc
13:16:53  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Combuster: looks good
13:17:41  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> just so that everyone knows... coke and touchpads do mix well and the results are hideous...
13:17:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
13:17:59  <PublicServer> <0DM> that doesnt sound good
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13:18:58  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> had to replace the keyboard and now the right mouse button has an unwanted highfrequency klick to it
13:19:21  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> click*
13:19:22  <PublicServer> <0DM> btw, taksi and a mouse do not mix well either
13:19:42  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> :)
13:19:54  <PublicServer> <0DM> i cant scroll left anymore:p
13:21:33  <PublicServer> <0DM> also, to which line is transfer 4 connected?:p
13:22:50  * MDGrein is off to catch some foods
13:23:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> I really like the grey wagons with red trains
13:23:52  <XeryusTC> !password
13:23:52  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: bloods
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13:24:05  <Ammler> ok, red 2k lok :-)
13:24:40  <PublicServer> <0DM> yeah the swiss are quite alright with trains^^
13:24:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
13:25:03  <XeryusTC> !password
13:25:03  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: bloods
13:26:58  <PublicServer> <0DM> what i always wondered, apparently swiss trains are always on time... but do they drive often?
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13:27:57  <KenjiE20> yes, but there's only one of them :P
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13:28:08  <Ammler> ODM: quite, our train network is like coop networks
13:28:41  <PublicServer> <0DM> like once an hour?:p
13:29:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> if it was like openttd it would be like once a few days :D
13:29:14  <Ammler> once a hour a IC, every half a regio,
13:29:22  <Ammler> every 20 a s-bahn
13:29:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> cool
13:29:48  <PublicServer> <0DM> because its easier if they dont drive too often
13:29:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> also Swiss trams are amazing
13:29:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> I was at St Gallen
13:30:06  <Ammler> st. gallen has no trams
13:30:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> was huge difference from the czech ones
13:30:14  <Ammler> just trolley buses
13:30:15  <PublicServer> <0DM> i heard yesterday that on the dutch net, a train 5 minutes late at my station, it takes 3 hours for the net to clear it...
13:30:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> Ammler: then my memory fails :D
13:30:35  <Ammler> but it has a narrow gauge to Appenzell
13:30:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> maybe it was somewhere around
13:31:18  <Ammler> hmm, maybe there is one railroad line?
13:31:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont know ... maybe it was a train but ... it was normally on road as a tram
13:32:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> anyways it was amazing :D
13:32:34  <Ammler> V453000: you might be right :-)
13:32:37  <Ammler> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trambahn_der_Stadt_St._Gallen
13:32:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
13:32:55  <ODM> i still have to go to switserland again
13:32:56  <Ammler> I was quite often there, but never used it, just buses.
13:32:58  <ODM> but so expensive:O
13:32:58  <V453000> I wasnt anywhere else in Swiss so it is quite probable :)
13:33:25  <ODM> V453000, you were dutch?
13:33:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
13:33:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> WIN
13:33:50  <ODM> yeahyeah rub it in:P
13:33:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
13:34:01  <ODM> so what is it?:)
13:34:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> what?
13:34:16  <ODM> which country?
13:34:24  <Ammler> but still, for me it looks more like the narrow gauge train to the suburban
13:34:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> what are we talking about now?
13:34:26  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Ok
13:34:33  <PublicServer> <Combuster> everything up to transfer 1 is connected
13:34:48  <ODM> i asked if you were dutch:P
13:34:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh so
13:35:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> no I am from Czech Republic
13:35:12  <ODM> aah like SmatZ!
13:35:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> exactly
13:35:19  <ODM> ive been in the train there, that was...interesting
13:35:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> :DDDD
13:35:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh no
13:35:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> Czech trains = the worst thing
13:35:49  <ODM> i had a good laugh
13:35:57  <ODM> where in czech are you? ive been there on holiday alot
13:36:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> I wonder why the CSD has operational trains
13:36:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> in the north ... Liberec
13:36:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> 100 km from Prague
13:36:18  <ODM> aah ive been there
13:36:22  <ODM> by train:P
13:36:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh my god :D
13:36:31  <ODM> you have trams aswell
13:36:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
13:36:41  <ODM> to be honest, wasnt the most exciting place ever, or we mustve missed it
13:36:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
13:37:09  <PublicServer> <Player> transfer 5 done
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13:37:24  <csuke> !dl win32
13:37:25  <PublicServer> csuke: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r18985/openttd-trunk-r18985-windows-win32.zip
13:37:28  <ODM> i loved the single wagon thingies you have though
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13:37:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
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13:37:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> ODM: the trains?
13:37:50  <zerpa> !password
13:37:50  <PublicServer> zerpa: proton
13:37:57  <ODM> yeah
13:37:59  <ODM> the red ones
13:38:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> a "can" is a more appropriate name I think :D
13:38:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
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13:38:35  <ODM> very fun:P
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13:40:14  <PublicServer> <Combuster> your trainyard is flawed
13:40:20  <PublicServer> <Combuster> the food trains carry goods
13:40:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
13:40:45  <PublicServer> <0DM> details
13:40:53  <csuke> !password
13:40:53  <PublicServer> csuke: proton
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13:41:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi csuke
13:41:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> havent seen ya in a while :)
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13:43:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> come back soon! :)
13:43:35  <ODM> haha:P
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13:44:25  <V453000> !password
13:44:25  <PublicServer> V453000: llamas
13:44:32  <ODM> you need a wire
13:44:59  <V453000> !password
13:44:59  <PublicServer> V453000: llamas
13:45:03  <V453000> :Z
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13:45:36  <V453000> !password
13:45:36  <PublicServer> V453000: llamas
13:45:46  <V453000> :|
13:45:48  <ODM> its still llamas:P
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13:45:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
13:45:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> ye
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13:50:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> I see some food working already :)))
13:51:01  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> jup :)
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14:04:05  <V453000> !password
14:04:05  <PublicServer> V453000: spongy
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14:04:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok
14:05:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> nice
14:05:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> I built a terminus pickup
14:05:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> without the station exit :D
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14:11:22  <V453000> !password
14:11:22  <PublicServer> V453000: spongy
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14:13:46  <ODM> wut the webcam:P
14:13:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is quite nice :)
14:14:41  <V453000> oh you mean that
14:14:41  <V453000> :)
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14:23:05  <V453000> !password
14:23:05  <PublicServer> V453000: supers
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14:24:17  <Ammler> btw.
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14:24:46  <Ammler> !url <-- here you have a gallery to back in the webcam screens.
14:24:46  <PublicServer> Ammler: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/
14:25:24  <V453000> fine
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14:25:45  <V453000> nice
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14:28:56  <V453000> I will kill the internet provider
14:29:00  <V453000> !password
14:29:00  <PublicServer> V453000: convex
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14:31:54  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> is the logic train enabled?
14:32:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think the oneTL train from 2cc will do the job
14:32:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> just hope it will be fast enough
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14:34:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> wow
14:34:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> 9000/year only
14:34:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> running cost of turbo bus
14:34:54  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> well, the advantage of the logic train is the infinite acceleration
14:35:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes I know
14:35:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> I meant not the speed but the response time
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14:36:02  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> are the "double" combos somewhere exlained?
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14:36:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> what?
14:36:18  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> explained*
14:36:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> the memory
14:36:23  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> yes
14:36:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> you mean on wiki
14:36:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think not
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14:38:43  <V453000> !password
14:38:43  <PublicServer> V453000: convex
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14:51:21  <V453000> !password
14:51:22  <PublicServer> V453000: babble
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14:54:57  <V453000> I just want to finish this omg
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14:55:53  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> what CL do we use on the main tracks (ML & SL's)? 5?
14:56:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
14:56:03  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> good
14:56:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> when the trains are faster than about 160 kmh, we use the same CL as the TL
14:56:48  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> ok
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15:17:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> done :)
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15:44:22  <Techinica> !password
15:44:22  <PublicServer> Techinica: bobbin
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15:55:22  <PublicServer> Intexon: bobbin
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16:00:53  <PublicServer> V453000: pepped
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16:28:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh my god what a mess
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16:28:24  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> V: where?
16:28:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> transfer 01
16:28:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> someone copied the trains
16:28:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> so they are in a wrong group
16:28:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> plus of course transfer 01 isnt operational yet
16:29:07  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> fix it?
16:29:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> I am already fixing it
16:29:33  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> good :)
16:32:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> who commented that 33% splitter at transfer 02 area?
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16:32:50  <sietse> !ingo
16:32:52  <sietse> !info
16:32:52  <PublicServer> sietse: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'OTTDC PSG#175'  Year Founded: 1950  Money: 414598312  Loan: 0  Value: 466911535  (T:403, R:0, P:7, S:0) unprotected
16:33:07  <PublicServer> <Techinica> me
16:33:20  <PublicServer> <Techinica> only because someone called /MD was asking what is was
16:33:21  <PublicServer> <Techinica> it*
16:33:28  <sietse> !password
16:33:28  <PublicServer> sietse: bunker
16:33:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> there is nothing about this on the wiki I fear
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16:33:40  <PublicServer> <Sietse> hello all
16:33:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
16:33:45  <PublicServer> <Techinica> well, there's a SRNW page atleast
16:33:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is
16:33:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> hmmm
16:33:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> whatever
16:34:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> transfer 01 cleaned
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16:36:53  <lomba> !password
16:36:53  <PublicServer> lomba: bunker
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16:37:48  <Ammler> [17:32] <sietse> !ingo <-- planetmaker isn't around ;-)
16:38:06  <sietse> ?
16:38:28  <Ammler>  do /whois
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16:40:50  <sietse> whahahah
16:41:00  <sietse> awesome typo :)
16:41:12  <V453000> ?
16:41:58  <sietse> ingo is planetmakers name
16:42:06  <V453000> oh
16:42:08  <sietse> and I typed !ingo instead of !info
16:42:16  <V453000> :)
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16:45:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> rofl
16:46:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> numbering layouts of SL stations :D
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16:52:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> the main station area is starting to look nice
16:55:40  <MeisterMarkus> !password
16:55:40  <PublicServer> MeisterMarkus: flails
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16:56:12  <PublicServer> <MeisterMarkus> hi
16:56:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
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16:59:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> off for diner
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17:17:27  <V453000> !password
17:17:27  <PublicServer> V453000: reused
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17:29:33  <Ammler> @wiki Autopilot
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17:29:36  <Ammler> PeterT: ^
17:29:36  <Webster> Autopilot - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Special:Search?go=Go&search=Autopilot
17:29:55  <PeterT> I found that, thanks Ammler :D
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17:41:23  <V453000> hi Kenji :)
17:41:37  <PublicServer> <Kenji> hey
17:42:17  <V453000> !password
17:42:17  <PublicServer> V453000: spikes
17:42:34  <V453000> :D your password, spike ^^
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17:44:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> Kenji: can you please take care of the stuff I built on the map? I will be gone for a week from tomorrow
17:44:21  <PublicServer> <Kenji> maybe
17:44:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
17:44:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> just rarely checking it if everything is fine
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17:56:01  <ODM> ellowz
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17:56:31  <sietse> heya
17:56:45  <jondisti> hello
17:56:57  <V453000> back ODM? :)
17:57:15  <ODM> sortof:P
17:57:28  <ODM> technically i never left:P
17:57:44  <jondisti> !password
17:57:44  <PublicServer> jondisti: consul
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17:58:08  <KenjiE20> he's got you there :P
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17:59:04  <ODM> heh
17:59:33  <ODM> just saw some weird programming stuff, like befunge and the underhanded c contest
17:59:36  <ODM> some people are bored:D
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18:01:02  <V453000> :)
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18:02:17  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> wonder who's whining about 3 tile long bridges without reason
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18:03:01  <V453000> jondisti: :D what? where?
18:03:22  <ODM> been there for ages, just remove the signs
18:03:35  <ODM> the bridges are fast enough afaik
18:04:03  <V453000> :)
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18:07:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> am I alone or there are trains of two colours?
18:07:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> I got some trains orange
18:07:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> and some red/grey
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18:08:00  <KenjiE20> sub-colours
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18:08:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
18:08:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> these are the same trains
18:08:31  <Razaekel> !password
18:08:31  <PublicServer> Razaekel: guiles
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18:09:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok now
18:09:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> that was strange :D
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18:10:46  <PublicServer> <0DM> wudup new york.
18:10:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> ??
18:11:16  <PublicServer> <0DM> aka, hi.
18:11:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi then .D
18:11:33  <PublicServer> <0DM> speaking of people with too much time, transfer 02:P
18:11:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> why?
18:12:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is fast and effective solution
18:12:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> imo the best
18:12:17  <Ammler> it is _two_ color company set, so playing around with colors should be part of the game :-)
18:12:20  <PublicServer> <0DM> imo you just killed a fly with a shotgun:p
18:12:26  <Ammler> (except the red 2k lok)
18:13:01  <PublicServer> <0DM> though it is creative^^
18:13:21  <V453000> Ammler: no, I know about the colours and whatever ... but it somehow bugged when I was a spectator and then some trains ignored their subcolours
18:13:29  <V453000> and were coloured just by the company colour
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18:13:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> ODM: well ... maybe :)
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18:14:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> I have done this a few times already so the creativity decreases a bit :p
18:15:38  <KenjiE20> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/501502/OTTD/Hitchin.png <-- too much time? only sometimes
18:16:05  <ODM> hm?
18:16:12  <V453000> now what is that Kenji? :D
18:16:20  <ODM> is that a real world station layout:P
18:16:30  <KenjiE20> that would be Hitchin recreated according to the signalling layouts
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18:16:54  <V453000> :|
18:17:11  <KenjiE20> yea, pretty much
18:18:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> it would be quite cool if we could recolour the trains by groups
18:18:53  <PublicServer> <0DM> true
18:18:58  <PublicServer> <0DM> useless but cool:p
18:19:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
18:20:00  <Ammler> is2 patch :-)
18:20:30  <V453000> ? you mean like making trains of multiple companies, resulting in something like groups
18:21:03  <KenjiE20> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/501502/OTTD/snapshot3.png <-- the respective signalling section
18:21:30  <V453000> Kenji: you are insane
18:22:06  <ODM> i dont even understand the signalling thing...
18:22:08  <KenjiE20> no what's insane, is the rest of it's built too
18:22:15  <KenjiE20> right up to KX
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18:30:23  <PublicServer> <0DM> yay hooked up a farm:p
18:30:34  <PublicServer> <0DM> <- parties.
18:30:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
18:31:22  <KenjiE20> fresh sausages :)
18:31:59  <PublicServer> <0DM> woo saucijzenbroodjes
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18:38:05  <LittleBoyRick> !password
18:38:05  <PublicServer> LittleBoyRick: infirm
18:38:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> damn :D building without keyboard is even slower than building on touchpad
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18:40:31  <PublicServer> <0DM> hotkeys are win
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18:40:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> yep
18:40:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> I got very used to them in all strategy games :o
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18:44:02  <PeterT> I love this webcam feature
18:44:05  <PeterT> who made the patch?
18:44:09  <PeterT> was it SmatZ ?
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18:46:07  <Ammler> PeterT: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/728
18:46:24  <Ammler> the openttd patch is quite small :-P
18:47:15  <V453000> would be cool if we could command it to jump to a sign
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18:47:44  <Ammler> yes, I should remember when SmatZ is around ;-)
18:47:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
18:48:01  <Ammler> scrtollto " BBH 01*"
18:48:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> write "beer" and he will be here in a blink of an eye :D
18:48:26  <Ammler> he is offline afaik
18:48:32  <PublicServer> <0DM> pillsner!
18:48:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> waa
18:48:35  <Ammler> beer beer beer
18:48:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah ODM :D
18:48:40  <PublicServer> <0DM> from pilzen:p
18:48:44  <Ammler> yes, he is.
18:48:47  <KenjiE20> lol
18:49:06  <PublicServer> <0DM> wow, all those farms on the westside being connected to an eastside sl:S
18:49:56  <Ammler> oh, and PeterT, credits for the openttd patch goes to #openttd ;-)
18:50:06  <Ammler> Autopilot patch to Fuco
18:50:11  <Ammler> and the rest to be...
18:50:16  <PublicServer> <0DM> since when does a channel hold credits^^
18:50:17  <Ammler> (me)
18:50:52  <Razaekel> !password
18:50:52  <PublicServer> Razaekel: huddle
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18:51:35  <Ammler> ODM: something like How do I enable screenshot on dedicated? --> randomnicks: uncomment blitter in source.list
18:52:11  <ODM> riiight:P
18:52:34  <PeterT> @coopstats
18:52:34  <Webster> http://hyru.ath.cx:60080/~kenji/ottdcoop/stats.html
18:52:34  <Ammler> well, if you want to donate, the credits goes to me ;-)
18:52:53  <PublicServer> <0DM> darn swiss, always wanting money:p
18:53:34  <PeterT> so if I'm pissed, the "credits" can go to you?
18:53:39  <PeterT> :-P
18:53:43  <Ammler> that for sure.
18:53:55  <Ammler> those shouldn't go to #openttd :-)
18:54:29  <PeterT> hehe
18:54:36  <PeterT> ok, I'm trying to set up AutoPilot now
18:54:44  <PeterT> where is the SVN repo?
18:55:07  <Ammler> @devzone Autopilot
18:55:08  <PublicServer> <0DM> it's hiding:O
18:56:11  <PeterT> @devzone AutoPilot
18:56:17  <PeterT> Not a valid integer
18:56:42  <Ammler> go to overview on the link I pasted above
18:57:34  <PeterT> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Autopilot#Overview
18:58:38  <PeterT> is that it?
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19:02:56  <V453000> !password
19:02:56  <PublicServer> V453000: uncled
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19:09:04  <XeryusTC> !password
19:09:04  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: uncled
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19:09:54  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> wat
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19:09:59  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> cant fund more farms :-/
19:10:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi XeryusTC
19:10:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> Raz: ???
19:10:09  <Ammler> PeterT: I meant that link: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/728
19:10:18  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> exactly what i said
19:10:22  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> it's not on the list
19:10:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> but why
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19:10:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh
19:10:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> needs changing the settings
19:10:38  <PublicServer> <0DM> primaries are turned off
19:10:39  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> farms are primarys
19:10:48  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> stupid game settings
19:11:01  <PeterT> Ammler: How is the AutoPilot scripts repo going?
19:11:09  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> somebody want to change that?
19:11:11  <PeterT> will that go anywhere soon?
19:11:15  <PeterT> I still need to learn tcl
19:11:25  <Ammler> you mean custom scripts?
19:11:35  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> everything's running nice and smoothly
19:11:51  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> it's time to dump a dozen or so more farms on the map and break stuff
19:11:54  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> :-P
19:11:59  <Ammler> http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/scripts/
19:12:32  <ODM> !rcon patch raw_industry_construction 2
19:12:34  <Ammler> hmm, might need update :-)
19:13:04  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> alright, 1 dozen farms prospected
19:13:05  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> trainlimit
19:13:13  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> only 500 trains O.o
19:13:20  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> this map definitely needs breaking
19:13:31  <PeterT> problem with wiki:
19:13:31  <PeterT> Warning: file_exists() [function.file-exists]: open_basedir restriction in effect. File(/usr/bin/diff3) is not within the allowed path(s): (/var/www/vhosts/openttdcoop.org/subdomains/wiki/httpdocs:/tmp) in /var/www/vhosts/openttdcoop.org/subdomains/wiki/httpdocs/includes/GlobalFunctions.php on line 1336
19:13:42  <PeterT> Ammler: The requested URL /public/scripts/ was not found on this server.
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19:14:06  <Ammler> PeterT: yes, updated it, requery
19:14:16  <PublicServer> <0DM> how many did you add?
19:14:18  <PeterT> ok thanks :-)
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19:14:20  <Ammler> now all the scripts are there, hope there is no sensitive data
19:14:26  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> 12
19:14:43  <Ammler> (else please tell me before you try them ;-)
19:14:50  <XeryusTC> !rcon patch max_trains 760
19:15:15  <PublicServer> <0DM> 760? wut:P
19:15:34  <PeterT> XeryusTC: I think !trains 760 is easier
19:15:46  <XeryusTC> hmm, probably :P
19:15:55  <XeryusTC> i always forget those xD
19:15:57  <Ammler> PeterT: some of those scripts are just aliases, but you won't see that over http
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19:16:35  <kratt> !password
19:16:35  <PublicServer> kratt: divers
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19:17:13  <Ammler> PeterT: if you find bugs or such, please feel free to report those to the DevZone, might also be useful for Avignon.
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19:17:21  <PeterT> ok, I will
19:17:31  <PeterT> but I need to get it working on Windozes first :-)
19:17:40  <Ammler> (and patches for that, indeed) :-)
19:17:48  <PeterT> I don't know anything about tcl yet
19:18:00  <PeterT> What is the callback for saying something privately to a person who just joined?
19:18:06  <Ammler> no need, me neither and made most of those scripts ;-)
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19:19:11  <Ammler> PeterT: just check the callbacks...
19:19:18  <Ammler> should be quite self explaining...
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19:19:26  <PeterT> sure thing
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19:20:34  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh cool :P
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19:20:46  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> there's 2 groups of trains going to transfer 5 :o
19:20:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol
19:21:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> there was even worse mess before
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19:21:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> someone grouped ALL food trains to group for transfer 05
19:21:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> even better: some of those delivered food to transfer 01
19:21:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> (which isnt operational yet)
19:21:43  <ODM> maybe theyre hungry at transfer 05?
19:21:57  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm, nice :o
19:22:41  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> now it's 22 vehicles :o
19:22:46  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> one group :P
19:23:05  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and it seems that those trains are all too short ofcourse xD
19:23:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> np
19:23:26  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, they're not :o
19:23:26  <ODM> dont panic!:P
19:23:41  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> stupid not half tile wagon lengths :P
19:24:00  <ODM> yup
19:24:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> hehe
19:24:07  <ODM> to be fair, too short is better than too long
19:26:09  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> true
19:26:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> XeryusTC: could you please explain me the issue at the SLH01? I can not say I completely own the twoway x oneway signal issues
19:26:14  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> long loading times sucks
19:26:52  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> red two ways are seen as end of line by YAPF if they're the first signal it comes across
19:27:01  <Ammler> I love 2way <-> 1way signal issues :-)
19:27:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> only red?
19:27:03  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> so yapf wont look further ahead on that path
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19:27:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> interesting
19:27:22  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> in this case, it can lead to balancing issues with prios and double bridges
19:27:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> okok :)
19:27:29  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> basically, it's treated as EOL
19:27:39  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> dont ask me what the exact issua was, i forgot
19:27:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> Raz: yeah I heard about that already :)
19:27:46  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> which can help in sorting trains
19:28:03  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but the EOL of red two ways can lead to problems, or be put to proper use in other situations
19:28:18  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> i like them for splitters
19:28:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok
19:28:23  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> like for crossing bridges
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19:28:45  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> two ways are very useful if the penalty for red one ways isnt high enough :P
19:28:45  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> ensures that they go onto the open path, or stops at the entrance presig if there are no open paths
19:28:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> kk
19:29:03  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but it isnt needed in most cases anymore, so you should use one ways on choosers
19:29:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> thx
19:29:06  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> if you hae a red oneway exit presig, trains will stop inside the block instead of at the entrance
19:29:20  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> which can be bad
19:29:28  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> (I personally add the exception on station entries, then I almost always use two ways)
19:29:46  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> but 2way should only be used by "pros" as it hides other issues ;-)
19:31:07  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> nice red trains :-)
19:31:19  <V453000> obsessed Ammler :D
19:31:27  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> :-D
19:31:29  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> Amm1er: you communist you :P
19:31:57  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> you say "communist" to a swiss, thanks :-P
19:32:11  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh sorry, you nazi :P
19:32:25  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> pacifist nazi that is :P
19:33:32  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> Swiss is able to make money with data others just hand out ;-)
19:34:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> and they eat chocolate all the time :P
19:35:23  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> and then, they wonder about criminalism, if the pay millions to thiefs
19:35:38  <PeterT> Ammler, what do I download and install?
19:35:44  <PeterT> http://tcl.tk/
19:35:45  <Webster> Title: Tcl Developer Site (at tcl.tk)
19:35:47  <PeterT> that ^?
19:35:50  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> bastards
19:35:53  <PeterT> or that > http://expect.nist.gov/
19:35:54  <Webster> Title: Expect - Expect - Home Page (at expect.nist.gov)
19:36:08  <Ammler> I would check ActiveTCL or something like that
19:36:27  <Ammler> http://www.activestate.com/activetcl/
19:36:28  <Webster> Title: ActiveTCL, Download Tcl for Windows, Mac, Linux, AIX, HP-UX & Solaris (at www.activestate.com)
19:36:36  <PeterT> ok
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19:37:41  <PeterT> Weird, the Wiki has tons of really helpful information, but nothing on setting up AutoPilot
19:37:49  <PeterT> getting needed packages and such
19:38:19  <Ammler> well, I just need "zypper tcl expect tcllib tclx" and I am done
19:38:31  <Ammler> in*
19:38:32  <PeterT> zypper?
19:38:40  <PeterT> omg, I neeed all that???
19:38:47  <Ammler> suse version of apt-get
19:39:00  <PeterT> oh
19:39:21  <Ammler> I guess, activetcl has all the tcl things
19:39:29  <PeterT> ok
19:39:34  <Ammler> so you should be fine with that and expect
19:39:34  <subz> Who set up the server and made the bot btw!
19:39:54  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> wow
19:39:58  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> failstation
19:40:02  <PeterT> Does TCL have to be in a place without spaces?
19:40:05  <PeterT> like C:\TCL?
19:40:08  <PeterT> I hate locations like that
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19:40:26  <Ammler> PeterT: don't ask me such specific windows questions...
19:40:31  <PeterT> Ok
19:40:36  <Xant> hi there
19:40:41  <Ammler> it would be nice, if we could ask you that :-P
19:42:05  <PeterT> Ammler: And I need the expect package?
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19:44:05  <Techinica> !password
19:44:05  <PublicServer> Techinica: brooms
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19:44:26  <Ammler> PeterT: expect is essential, yes.
19:44:44  <Ammler> Autopilot is quite useless without.
19:44:59  <PeterT> which port? http://expect.nist.gov/#windows
19:45:00  <Webster> Title: Expect - Expect - Home Page (at expect.nist.gov)
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19:46:39  <PeterT> Ammler?
19:47:18  <Ammler> PeterT: didn't I already recommend Active?
19:47:45  <PeterT> Yeah, but the link goes to the main site...and from there I am completely lost
19:47:47  <Ammler> [20:36] <Ammler> I would check ActiveTCL or something like that <-- yes, I did :-)
19:50:03  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> safe-joiner is damn cool
19:50:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah
19:50:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> damn cool
19:50:17  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> sorry :-P
19:50:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> what?
19:50:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> I just agreed with that
19:50:30  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> the "damn"
19:50:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
19:50:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> I am completely not-sensitive to words
19:51:22  <Ammler> XeryusTC: did you see it?
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19:51:41  <XeryusTC> what?
19:51:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> fail-safe joiner
19:51:52  <Ammler> how can we play 3 years openttd without such an easy implentation?
19:51:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> by Osai
19:52:13  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> we dont use SML that much, that's why
19:52:17  <PeterT> Strange, I just installed this (http://www.activestate.com/activetcl/downloads/), and it says this: can't find package Expect
19:52:17  <PeterT>     while executing
19:52:17  <PeterT> "package require Expect"
19:52:17  <PeterT>     (file "./autopilot.tcl" line 23)
19:52:18  <Webster> Title: ActiveTcl Downloads (at www.activestate.com)
19:52:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is not SML
19:52:23  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> oh
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19:52:28  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> basic joiner?
19:52:29  <Ammler> PeterT: autsch
19:52:40  <PublicServer> <Sietse> could be used in SML aswell I think
19:52:45  <Ammler> please use nopaste services
19:52:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes of course
19:52:51  <PeterT> ouch?
19:52:57  <PeterT> Oh, right...
19:53:08  <PublicServer> <Sietse> with a penalty in the straight path
19:53:15  <PeterT> so, what could've happened?
19:53:23  <Ammler> did you install expect?
19:54:09  <PublicServer> <Sietse> it works real nice
19:54:15  <PeterT> I don't know, is DejaGNU == Expect?
19:54:21  <PublicServer> <Sietse> no need for a train being stuck in a waiting space
19:54:36  <Ammler> I would guess, they call the package something with "expect"?
19:55:07  <PeterT> the first link (that is here: http://expect.nist.gov/#windows), goes to the main site of activestate.com, which doesn't help. the second link is dead. the third link goes to DejaGNU, which doesn't sound like the package expect at all
19:55:08  <Webster> Title: Expect - Expect - Home Page (at expect.nist.gov)
19:55:53  <Ammler> PeterT: http://community.activestate.com/faq/where-is-expect
19:55:54  <Webster> Title: Where is Expect? | ActiveState Community Site (at community.activestate.com)
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20:00:28  <PublicServer> * Razaekel gnashes teeth
20:00:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> gnashes?
20:00:43  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> it's a pain to keep up with the expansion of the farms
20:00:48  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> need to keep cloning trains
20:00:49  * PeterT gnashes Razaekel 
20:00:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> hmmm
20:00:55  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> :-P
20:01:11  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> the best network imo for this sort of this was the SRNW
20:01:23  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> sort of thing*
20:01:44  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> what the bloody hell is that station
20:01:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think that doesnt matter
20:01:50  <PublicServer> *** Sietse has joined company #1
20:02:24  <PublicServer> <Techinica> lol.. transfer 6 :)
20:02:27  <PublicServer> <Sietse> over 600 trains!
20:02:29  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> tranfer 06 = wtf?
20:02:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> maze
20:02:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> will work
20:02:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> fear not
20:02:49  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> i have no doubt it will
20:02:53  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> but still
20:02:55  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> O.o
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20:03:14  <PublicServer> <Techinica> looks.. interesting :)
20:03:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> got also a portrait there :P :D
20:03:42  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> it's too bad you cant restrict the spawning of industries on a map
20:03:54  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> ie, only certain types, or even none at all
20:04:18  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> so no industries spawn, ever, for something like a pax game
20:04:34  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> or only farms, with the FPP/factory placed by hand
20:04:38  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> etc
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20:11:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> damn
20:11:23  <PublicServer> <Techinica> rofl
20:11:27  <PublicServer> <Sietse> fail :)
20:11:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> trees didnt work :|
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20:18:54  <Ammler> !players
20:18:56  <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 423 (Orange) is Razaekel, in company 1 (OTTDC PSG#175)
20:18:56  <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 425 (Orange) is V453000, in company 1 (OTTDC PSG#175)
20:18:56  <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 335 (Orange) is MDGrein, in company 1 (OTTDC PSG#175)
20:18:56  <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 403 (Orange) is Sietse, in company 1 (OTTDC PSG#175)
20:18:56  <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 433 (Orange) is Techinica, in company 1 (OTTDC PSG#175)
20:19:05  <Ammler> update the server for the new minimap features?
20:19:14  <PeterT> /msg PublicServer !players
20:19:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> minimap?
20:19:20  <PeterT> zoom-out
20:19:32  <PeterT> feature is in trunk, that's why would *would* update
20:19:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> just wait 10 minutes pls
20:19:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will finish this thing
20:19:38  <PeterT> yay Ammler!
20:19:41  <Ammler> PeterT: I highlighted on purpose :-P
20:22:13  <Ammler> conflicts anyway
20:22:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> with what?
20:23:04  <Intexon> !password
20:23:04  <PublicServer> Intexon: repeal
20:23:16  <PublicServer> *** Intexon joined the game
20:25:23  <Ammler> http://pastebin.ca/1788345 <-- why does that conflict?
20:26:38  <^Spike^> eh...
20:26:48  <^Spike^> cause... eh... you know...
20:26:49  <^Spike^> that..
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20:29:30  <^Spike^> Ammler will it give problems if you force it? :)
20:30:21  <Ammler> force? how?
20:30:56  <^Spike^> good point.. thought that was possible
20:32:09  <Ammler> ah
20:32:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> News: V453000 Celebrates! Another insane thing done.
20:32:19  <Ammler> magic bulldozer is the issue
20:32:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> /news : off
20:32:27  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> that's nuts
20:32:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
20:32:44  <Ammler> server is compling...
20:32:51  <^Spike^> ah... :)
20:33:21  <Ammler> I need to apply the bulldozer after the logging patch
20:34:18  <Ammler> server isn't compling... http://pastebin.ca/1788353 ;-)
20:34:31  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> nice flipflops v453
20:34:44  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> you have a 2/3rd splitter than then a half splitter
20:34:45  <^Spike^> raz, just v453?
20:34:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> thanks :) I like the first one
20:35:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> spike: I dont care :) combuster calls me Vbignum :D I like  that
20:35:16  <Ammler> I guess, we wait for SmatZyPatchy
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20:35:32  <^Spike^> just shake him... maybe he wakes up..
20:35:33  <^Spike^> :)
20:35:34  <PublicServer> <tneo> hello
20:35:40  <Ammler> beer beer beer
20:35:42  <Razaekel> i should just call him V4
20:35:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi theo
20:35:47  <Ammler> no, still
20:36:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> V4 :D
20:36:03  <Ammler> heya tneo, zypper up worked?
20:36:30  * ^Spike^ thinks he should install eclipse.. again...
20:36:34  <PublicServer> <tneo> dunno, used the start script :-)
20:36:39  <Ammler> oh
20:36:55  <Ammler> yes, more comfort there :-)
20:37:07  <Ammler> and nore root required
20:37:29  <PublicServer> <tneo> I appreciate all your efforts for the suse pack though :-D
20:37:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> *happy*
20:37:45  <PublicServer> <tneo> we should advertise that on openttd.org ?
20:38:18  <^Spike^> hmm... eclipse has no 64bit win version :(
20:38:18  <Ammler> hmm
20:38:40  <Ammler> tneo, there are already "official" suse packages
20:39:01  <PublicServer> <Sietse> V453000 how does that splitter work?
20:39:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is quite simple
20:39:11  <PublicServer> <Sietse> how does it remember the last path taken?
20:39:15  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> simple?
20:39:18  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> phhhhhh
20:39:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes simple :)
20:39:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> there is a memory
20:39:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> the two twoway combo signals
20:39:43  <PublicServer> <tneo> hmm pressing A didn't pop up rail construction :-(
20:39:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> how come, tneo?
20:40:02  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> i've had that problem too
20:40:04  <PublicServer> <tneo> dunno
20:40:05  <PublicServer> <tneo> weird
20:40:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> :|
20:40:12  <PublicServer> <tneo> TL = 3 ?
20:40:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> that depends
20:40:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> read the plan :)
20:40:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> the primaries got TL 5
20:40:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> food feeders TL 3
20:40:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> a
20:40:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> and the transferer food trains TL 2
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20:41:44  <ziza> !password
20:41:44  <PublicServer> ziza: bummer
20:42:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> Sietse: want some help?
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20:42:32  <PublicServer> <Sietse> I just lack logic skills :)
20:42:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> dunno ... I think this is simple
20:43:02  <PublicServer> <Sietse> I see that the combo (3 in a row) count everytime
20:43:11  <PublicServer> <Sietse> a time pass by
20:43:25  <PublicServer> <Sietse> a  train*
20:43:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> hm? :D
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20:44:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> see this:
20:44:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> there is a memory
20:44:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> remembers that a train passed there
20:44:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> and on the other line there is a memory eraser
20:44:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> which makes the memory green again
20:44:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> at the !example 50-50
20:45:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> therefore ... the lines block themselves after usage but also unlock each other
20:45:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> resulting in flip flop :)
20:47:11  <PublicServer> <Sietse> huh?
20:47:18  <PublicServer> <Sietse> that 50-50 is doing what?
20:47:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> what is unclear
20:47:26  <PublicServer> <Sietse> I see only one line
20:47:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> well that is the splitter
20:47:43  <PublicServer> <Sietse> ok
20:47:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> the whole mechanism not just the one line near the sign
20:50:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> already got it? :)
20:50:10  <PublicServer> <Sietse> I think so
20:50:19  <PublicServer> <Sietse> but in this case there are 2 memories
20:50:24  <PublicServer> <Sietse> isn't that overkill?
20:50:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
20:50:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is the point
20:50:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> it flipflops each third
20:51:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> so there are two needed to erase the memory
20:51:19  <PublicServer> <Sietse> but there are only 2 states needed
20:51:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> 2 states, yes
20:51:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> but there are needed two trains to pass THEN one can split
20:51:51  <PublicServer> <Sietse> so I would say, memory green or red
20:52:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> there
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20:52:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> 1/3 trains go there
20:52:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> not 1/2
20:52:09  <PublicServer> <Sietse> ok
20:52:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> see how they go
20:52:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> first they fill memory A, then memory B
20:52:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> if both A and B are red, then one splits
20:52:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> which makes it 1/3
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20:53:02  <PublicServer> <Sietse> was looking at the 50-50 :)
20:53:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
20:53:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> but there is only one memory
20:53:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> it counts for each line
20:53:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> each line must be blocked when the other is opened
20:54:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> it actually would work with just one ... but this is more precise
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20:55:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> the 1/3 works that way
20:55:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> the path to "SL" never blocks
20:55:29  <PublicServer> <Sietse> ok
20:55:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> they only dont like it because of the penalties
20:55:51  <PublicServer> <Sietse> but why they prefer the other path?
20:55:55  <PublicServer> <Sietse> shortest?
20:55:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
20:56:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> there are the PBS signals
20:56:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> these make them not-like that track
20:56:18  <PublicServer> <Sietse> ok
20:56:23  <PublicServer> <Sietse> penalties further up
20:56:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> so if they can, they use the split
20:57:00  <PublicServer> <Sietse> that's easy, that logic to the contrary not :)
20:57:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
20:57:48  <PublicServer> <Sietse> plus I don't like it because it is ruining vision :)
20:57:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> vision?
20:58:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> you mean it is ugly
20:58:06  <PublicServer> <Sietse> but the effect is nice sometimes ;)
20:58:09  <PublicServer> <Sietse> yep
20:58:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> I love the look at it
20:58:21  <PublicServer> <Sietse> it looks worse than odd :)
20:58:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> especially when it works ^^
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20:59:03  <PublicServer> <Sietse> that maze station is fun :)
20:59:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
20:59:36  <PublicServer> <Sietse> I mean layout #665 :)
20:59:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
20:59:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> #666 is HELL. You dontn want to see
21:00:18  <PublicServer> <Sietse> np... hell does not exist imo :)
21:00:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> but a station called HELL does :D
21:00:45  <PublicServer> <Sietse> that might be scary yes :)
21:01:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)))
21:03:40  <PublicServer> <Sietse> only 43% of food production transported....
21:03:55  <PublicServer> <Sietse> 52 now
21:04:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> I wouldnt try to transport high %
21:04:08  <PublicServer> <Sietse> why not?
21:04:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> it could make the pickup jam when there would be less food one month
21:04:41  <PublicServer> <Sietse> the idea is to stress the network right?
21:04:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
21:05:01  <PublicServer> <Sietse> so why not doing that and find solutions if we encounter issues...
21:05:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> the solution might be a complete rework
21:05:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> and we dont want that, do we
21:05:37  <PublicServer> <Sietse> you might? :)
21:05:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> ?
21:06:16  <PublicServer> <Sietse> pickup also still got lots of capacity left
21:06:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
21:06:38  <PublicServer> <Sietse> 20 extra trains won't harm it imo
21:06:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> I added
21:06:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> now
21:07:04  <PublicServer> <Sietse> many?
21:07:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> about 20
21:07:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> shouldnt be even significant for the network
21:07:23  <PublicServer> <Sietse> fast :)
21:07:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> train limit :<
21:07:46  <PublicServer> <Sietse> u got a shortcut for creating trains that fast?
21:08:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> ctrl + clone isnt that unusal
21:08:20  <PublicServer> <Sietse> it is slow :)
21:08:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
21:08:35  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> clone one from the map, then clone in depot
21:08:38  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> very fast
21:08:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> yep
21:09:23  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> need to bump up the train limit
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21:13:03  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> huh
21:13:12  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> the trains have a specific destination station
21:13:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> ?
21:13:27  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> food trains
21:13:30  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> from FPP
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21:13:40  <V453000> yes
21:13:45  <V453000> that is the best way probably
21:13:53  <V453000> !password
21:13:53  <PublicServer> V453000: seller
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21:14:16  <V453000> !password
21:14:16  <PublicServer> V453000: rodeos
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21:19:25  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> heh
21:19:29  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> i noticed something
21:19:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> ? that I am a reatard?
21:19:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
21:19:53  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> at the !input lines sign, there are 4 numbered tracks
21:20:06  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> track 4 only comes from  transfer 05
21:20:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes I know
21:20:10  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> and goes to transfer 05
21:20:26  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> but it has the option to go west at the split
21:20:47  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> the trains from transfer 05 dont go on any other lines
21:20:58  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> so, the split could be simplified
21:21:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> hmmm
21:21:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> lets just keep it as it is
21:21:26  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> the only issue with that is if it overloads
21:21:35  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> cause then the trains on line 4 go to line 1
21:21:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
21:21:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> but the split is from all lines for sure so np
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21:31:37  <V453000> !password
21:31:37  <PublicServer> V453000: devour
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21:32:57  <PublicServer> <Sietse> vehicle limit :)
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21:38:18  <V453000> !assword
21:38:22  <V453000> !password
21:38:22  <PublicServer> V453000: devour
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21:40:38  <PeterT> V453000 devours his !assword
21:40:50  <V453000> :| :D
21:41:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> my assword is to be kissed, not to be devoured :P
21:43:31  <ODM> by your powers combined, he is captain assword?
21:43:47  <V453000> what? :D
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21:45:02  <Qanael> !password
21:45:02  <PublicServer> Qanael: bathes
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21:45:39  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Hi guys
21:45:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
21:46:01  <PublicServer> <Qanael> wtf @ transfer 06
21:46:10  <Watson> !password
21:46:10  <PublicServer> Watson: bathes
21:46:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> fun
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21:52:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> 4???
21:53:06  <PublicServer> <Qanael> For the transfer trains
21:53:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> there is not TL at the whole map
21:53:26  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Oh 3 sorry
21:53:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> not TL4
21:53:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> kk :)
21:53:40  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Counted wrong :)
21:53:59  <PublicServer> <Qanael> These food trains are 7 wagons though?
21:54:06  <PublicServer> <Qanael> The ones at FFP pickup
21:54:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> just that someone started building the food town delivery trains for TL 4
21:54:14  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Oh
21:54:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes they are
21:54:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> the wagons are smaller
21:54:26  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Interesting
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21:56:17  <V453000> ok I am going to search for some f00d here, have a shower and I will be back later
21:56:18  <V453000> cya
21:56:24  <PublicServer> <Qanael> See ya V
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22:18:12  <V453000> I see nothing happened during the last 18 minutes I was away o_O
22:18:23  <V453000> !password
22:18:23  <PublicServer> V453000: sieges
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22:19:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> the TL is 2 ... read signs
22:19:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> at the transfer 04
22:19:48  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Ohh right
22:19:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
22:19:56  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Forgot town trains were small
22:19:59  <PublicServer> <Qanael> That helps a lot lol
22:20:03  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I was gonna have to start using TF soon
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22:23:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> Qanael: see this:
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22:23:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> that will prevent making the gap
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22:24:06  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Ah, ok
22:24:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> it doesnt matter much ... but it iw nice to have it done properly ;)
22:24:24  <subz> http://openttdcoop.org/config/ is broke :[
22:24:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> also helps you so you can shorten the bridge
22:24:34  <subz> and my autopilot seems to be very rude to me
22:24:50  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Well, I like that I can avoid climbs completely on the bridge
22:24:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> and make the -_   -> --
22:24:57  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Since it goes from raised to raised
22:25:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> climbs dont matter at all
22:25:24  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Ah ok
22:25:39  <Intexon> !password
22:25:39  <PublicServer> Intexon: sieges
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22:25:58  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Is that ok?
22:26:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> improvement:
22:26:20  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Oh right
22:26:21  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Thanks
22:26:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
22:26:36  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Looks much neater now
22:26:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> now signalling :)
22:26:47  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Yeah
22:26:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> and what about this:
22:27:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> that will make the signalling simplier
22:27:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> you can move the PBS to the other split
22:27:20  <PublicServer> <Qanael> True
22:27:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
22:27:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> hope I dont annoy you with endless upgrades :p
22:27:46  <PublicServer> <Qanael> No, that's good, I'm still learning
22:28:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> and add a PBS in from of each of the double-platform :)
22:28:35  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Do I need more PBS at the crosses near the station?
22:28:38  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Yeah
22:28:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> you actually dont
22:28:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> the very first one would suffice
22:28:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> but this ensures some waiting space
22:29:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> which is better
22:29:03  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Yeah
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22:29:11  <PublicServer> <Qanael> It has pretty long entrances so it can have some buffer
22:29:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> also: you cold add this signal:
22:29:27  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Alright
22:29:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> that will make it even faster
22:29:47  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Hmm
22:29:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> the buffer keeps the size but a new train can be released tehre sooner
22:29:55  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I don't think transfer 4 goes to any other towns does it?
22:30:06  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Oh yeah it does
22:30:21  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Poor little Bruntwood lol
22:30:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
22:31:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> haha I forgot Plinningpool
22:31:22  <PublicServer> <Qanael> lol
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22:31:30  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Right next to the ML and disconnected from the world
22:31:34  <V453000> !password
22:31:34  <PublicServer> V453000: calico
22:31:45  <V453000> that is quite common :)
22:31:51  <V453000> mines near the ML often are unserved
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22:34:51  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Not much room at Bruntwood
22:34:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> np
22:34:59  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I think I'll need just a bit of TF for the station
22:35:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont think so :)
22:35:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> ;)
22:35:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> carry on
22:35:36  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Hehe
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22:36:59  <PublicServer> <Sietse> stlil train limit...
22:37:02  <LittleBoyRick> !password
22:37:03  <PublicServer> LittleBoyRick: calico
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22:37:29  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Hmm...
22:37:35  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I still need 2 lines don't I?
22:37:44  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Unless we had just 1 train
22:37:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> make it roro
22:38:03  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Oh
22:38:06  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Good thinking
22:38:07  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Haha
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22:42:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> some evil CL there :)
22:42:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> it doesnt matter at all though
22:42:58  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Doesn't really matter for S bends does it?
22:43:16  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Ohh
22:43:19  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Easy to fix
22:43:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh there is even space for it :D
22:43:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok np
22:44:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> but that sbend northeast of bruntwood will slow
22:44:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> also easy to fix ;)
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22:44:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> just straigten the curve
22:44:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
22:44:25  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Yeah
22:44:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok now is everything fine
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22:45:38  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Seems ready
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22:46:00  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I love building winding mountain rails without TF
22:46:03  <PublicServer> <Qanael> They're the most fun
22:46:03  <Watson> !password
22:46:03  <PublicServer> Watson: pitted
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22:46:38  <V453000> :)
22:46:39  <V453000> yeah
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22:47:08  <PublicServer> <Qanael> There's another town for 04
22:47:11  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Carfingfield
22:47:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
22:47:28  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Too far?
22:47:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> that doesnt accept food for town growth
22:47:33  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Ohh
22:47:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> it isnt above snow line
22:47:42  <PublicServer> <Qanael> kk
22:47:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> see !here
22:48:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> you can see there the signalling gaps
22:48:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> made by the autocomplete-feature
22:48:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> you have to check after it
22:48:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> so it is wise to add signals: here
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22:48:55  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Oh yeah, for the tunnels and junctions
22:48:58  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I always forget
22:49:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> quite important when you build somewhere where it would matter :)
22:50:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> I also often fix the curves after the autosignalling
22:50:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> because sometimes it leaves 1,5 tile gaps
22:50:35  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Ah, ok
22:50:38  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Hmm
22:50:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> and curves are issue overall so it is wise to fix it :)
22:50:48  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I think Bruntwood doesn't take food :|
22:50:57  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Oh yes it does
22:50:58  <PublicServer> <Qanael> nvm
22:51:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> it does :)
22:51:09  <PublicServer> <Qanael> How come the station only takes passengers though?
22:51:12  <PeterT> I have successfully ported AutoPilot to Windows!!!!
22:51:13  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Needs more catchment?
22:51:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
22:51:29  <PublicServer> <Qanael> PeterT: Nice
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22:52:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> now it accepts food
22:52:03  <PublicServer> <Qanael> There we go
22:52:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> right :) last thing: sign your work ;)
22:52:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> we will have to wait for the train limit raise for now :<
22:52:59  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Yeah
22:53:11  <KenjiE20> !info
22:53:11  <PublicServer> KenjiE20: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'OTTDC PSG#175'  Year Founded: 1950  Money: 930210091  Loan: 0  Value: 971699426  (T:760, R:0, P:7, S:0) unprotected
22:53:16  <KenjiE20> !trains 850
22:53:16  <PublicServer> *** KenjiE20 has set max_trains to 850
22:53:17  <V453000> :D
22:53:19  <V453000> thanks Kenji
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22:53:30  <KenjiE20> *fwoosh*
22:53:40  <V453000> :)
22:53:46  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Woot, thanks!
22:54:30  <PeterT> KenjiE20: I got autopilot working on Windoze!
22:55:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> I created train groups for you
22:55:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> and will send some food there from the FPP, ok?
22:56:05  <Qanael> Alright, cool
22:56:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> on their way
22:56:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> now decide how you want to treat the TL2 train orders :)
22:56:50  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I'll put an injection depot at T04
22:57:04  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Maybe a few dedicated trains for each town?
22:57:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure, do :)
22:57:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
22:57:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> you can not make them go to the Transfer from there
22:57:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> what about "depot here?"
22:58:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> ;)
22:58:30  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Oh yeah, cause transfer is first
22:58:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> well it doesnt have to be but it is nicer that way :)
22:59:02  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Depot aka secret mountaintop observation post
22:59:14  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00015A38: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00015A38.png
22:59:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> also would be a good idea to make it below the hill
22:59:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> as now the trains will join slowly ;)
22:59:56  <PublicServer> <Qanael> How come?
23:00:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> in depot it goes 63 kmh
23:00:51  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Ah, so move it and use a longer joining track?
23:01:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> also a solution :)
23:01:22  <PublicServer> <Qanael> That works
23:01:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure
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23:01:42  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Using the little swiss locomotive for town trains right?
23:01:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> yep
23:01:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> first build one
23:02:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> then put it into the right group
23:02:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> then copy shared orders
23:02:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> well and add some orders after building it :p
23:02:56  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I know :P
23:03:03  <Ammler> what nice screens with all those 2k loks :-D
23:03:24  <V453000> Ammler obsessed ++ ?
23:03:25  <V453000> :D
23:03:41  <PublicServer> <Qanael> How many trains per town do you think would be good?
23:03:53  <V453000> that changes
23:04:07  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Maybe 3 for now?
23:04:15  <V453000> will be needed much hore
23:04:21  <V453000> and the farther town should have more
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23:04:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> than the closer one
23:04:44  <Qanael> !password
23:04:44  <PublicServer> Qanael: crofts
23:04:55  <Qanael> Alright
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23:05:05  <PeterT> KenjiE20: Do me a favor?
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23:05:31  <PeterT> I want to write a guide for AutoPilot on Windows, can I just pick a random page, then you can move the page to the appropriate place?
23:05:55  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I'll do 6 for the closer town and 10 for the other
23:05:58  <PublicServer> <Qanael> That sound ok?
23:06:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok
23:06:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> you could also make the amount equal for both towns if you wanted to support the bigger town more :p so there wouldnt be fatkins at Bruntwood :D
23:06:46  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Just release them all at once or do it gradually?
23:06:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> all
23:07:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> it will regulate itself in time
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23:07:09  <PublicServer> <Qanael> ok, here goes
23:07:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> when they get all the food from the transfer
23:07:13  <Ammler> PeterT: use http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Autopilot/Windows
23:07:33  <PeterT> Ok
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23:09:02  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I just realized the loop for bruntwood is left hand drive >.>
23:09:05  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Oh well
23:09:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> doesnt matter
23:09:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> I also got that in my transfer 02
23:10:56  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Seems to be working just fine
23:11:25  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I think we need more FPP trains though
23:11:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> coming
23:11:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> already
23:14:15  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0003158B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003158B.png
23:15:33  <stillunknown> Do you guys/girls ever play with new industries?
23:15:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
23:15:51  <KenjiE20> ^
23:16:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> but quite rarely
23:16:26  <Ammler> @wiki ECS
23:16:29  <Webster> ECS - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Special:Search?go=Go&search=ECS
23:16:33  <KenjiE20> psg134/135 and PZ... erm 10?
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23:16:53  <V453000> !password
23:16:53  <PublicServer> V453000: bagels
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23:16:56  <V453000> PZ9
23:17:12  <V453000> PZ 09 is FIRS
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23:17:38  <KenjiE20> yes, ty
23:17:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> ;)
23:18:36  <V453000> I am looking forward to the final FIRS :) the nightlies are nice but the full wil rock
23:19:03  <stillunknown> FIRS is better/very different than ECS?
23:19:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> very different
23:19:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> and I personally like it much more
23:19:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> but that depends
23:19:40  <stillunknown> ECS gives you a challenge to get started
23:19:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> quite
23:20:05  <stillunknown> AIs seem to die every time in my limited experience
23:20:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> no idea
23:20:41  <stillunknown> i had this hope AIs would keep some of the industries alive :-)
23:20:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> hmmm
23:20:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> good idea
23:21:10  <Ammler> stillunknown: yeah, ECS is hard for humans
23:21:14  <stillunknown> but they don't start doing anything sensible
23:21:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> even though not operational :)
23:21:19  <Ammler> don't think a AI can handle that
23:21:23  <stillunknown> until i made the industries sustainable
23:21:59  <stillunknown> so how do you guys look at path based signals?
23:22:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> I like the ECS graphics ... or at least most of them ... but the way how it works seems needlessly complicated to me
23:22:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> how do we look at them?
23:22:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> with both eyes :P
23:22:22  <Ammler> from front
23:22:27  <stillunknown> do you like them, hate them, etc
23:22:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> no reason why to hate them
23:22:36  <Ammler> yes, all specially etc.
23:22:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> but the thing you mean probably is for us "ghetto" style
23:23:01  <Ammler> V453000: no piros
23:23:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
23:23:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> but everything has a use :)
23:23:36  <Ammler> well, not a reason to hate those
23:23:44  <stillunknown> i've been checking how to build a network in tight spaces
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23:24:09  <V453000> in tight spaces they may be useful
23:24:18  <V453000> but can drastically reduce efficiency
23:24:18  <Ammler> V453000: we might be the only players on the whole OpenTTD world, who combine block and path signals.
23:24:39  <V453000> Ammler: for example I use them at the overflows
23:24:55  <V453000> Ammler: yes we probably are :)
23:25:00  <stillunknown> i never get why people would use pathsignals outside stations, junctions, etc
23:25:24  <Ammler> stillunknown: why not? doesn't hurt
23:25:25  <V453000> Ammler: but also I think we are the ones who decide if it can be said if it has some use, or if it is useless
23:25:38  <Ammler> V453000: hehe
23:25:44  <V453000> !password
23:25:44  <PublicServer> V453000: bagels
23:25:55  <KenjiE20> "People are dumb panicky animals, and you know it"
23:26:01  <V453000> :D
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23:26:15  <stillunknown> Ammler: matter of habit i guess
23:27:07  <stillunknown> also, do you always update all trains at the same time?
23:27:16  <stillunknown> to avoid speed differences
23:27:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> mostly we use the best trains from the beginning
23:27:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> as we start buying the trains in a late date
23:27:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> we build the complete network first
23:27:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> then we buy trains
23:27:51  <stillunknown> but where do you get the money from?
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23:28:01  <V453000> aircraft
23:28:11  <V453000> @quickstart
23:28:13  <V453000> ^
23:28:13  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart
23:28:16  <V453000> ^
23:28:17  <V453000> :D
23:28:37  <stillunknown> you  guys are not hardcore enough if you use planes for money
23:28:48  <V453000> have you seen our games?
23:28:52  <sietse> !info
23:28:52  <PublicServer> sietse: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'OTTDC PSG#175'  Year Founded: 1950  Money: 985749710  Loan: 0  Value: 1055848434  (T:827, R:8, P:7, S:0) unprotected
23:29:17  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0006461D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0006461D.png
23:29:22  <PublicServer> <Dr. Watson> I agree: planes=not hardcore
23:29:35  <PublicServer> <Qanael> We could easily use a small coal route, it'd just be slower
23:29:40  <Ammler> [00:28] <stillunknown> you  guys are not hardcore enough if you use planes for money <-- indeed, sometime we cheat the money :-P
23:29:41  <V453000> no
23:29:47  <V453000> that would make the industries impalenced
23:29:48  <PublicServer> <Dr. Watson> there are seven planes in the air right now!
23:29:53  <PublicServer> <Dr. Watson> and a blimp!
23:29:54  <V453000> imbalanced
23:30:08  <V453000> !password
23:30:08  <PublicServer> V453000: griped
23:30:21  <Ammler> stillunknown: if you feel like, you can compete us...
23:30:26  <V453000> :D
23:30:26  <Ammler> we have a special server for it.
23:30:31  <stillunknown> V453000: i've seen a few, what i meant to say is that you should try building that network from scratch without any cheating
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23:30:41  <PublicServer> <Qanael> T04 still needs more FPP trains, I'll build a few
23:30:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> kk
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23:30:58  <stillunknown> Ammler: i'm fairly rusty, i just try openttd every once and a while
23:31:29  <Ammler> me too, quite a long time ago, I really played a game.
23:31:31  <V453000> I think showing us your savegame would be enough :)
23:31:42  <V453000> it doesnt have to be recent
23:32:12  <stillunknown> i don't keep these things, and honestly my networks look shabby compared to yours
23:32:31  <V453000> ;)
23:32:45  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Come join the game, have some fun
23:32:49  <stillunknown> but i did not resort to planes to get my initial funds :-)
23:32:50  <V453000> yeah
23:32:50  <PublicServer> <Qanael> There's still stuff to be built
23:32:53  <V453000> we dont have to compete :)
23:32:56  <V453000> we are coop
23:33:22  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I'm a total newb by the server's standards and I've built my share of stations :P
23:33:41  <stillunknown> my mind is in ECS mode right now, and i'm kind of intrigued, after getting the hang of it
23:34:00  <V453000> stillunknown: if you want to get money for multiple players, often a lot of terraforming, keep the industries on the same level of production ... planes with town growth off is the best solution
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23:34:49  <stillunknown> but how realistic is to carve away a mountain?
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23:35:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> do we need anything to be realistic in a game?
23:35:22  <Qanael> Most of the games I've played here have fairly low TF
23:35:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes most
23:35:31  <Qanael> This one in particular has barely any, on a mountain map
23:35:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> see PZ 05 :D
23:35:51  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Tracks winding their way through mountain passes = pretty
23:36:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh poo
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23:36:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> single bridge issue just at the first split after FPP pickup
23:37:20  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Whoops
23:37:41  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Can he fix it? Yes he can!
23:37:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> I am fixing already
23:37:52  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Yeah I'm watching
23:38:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> omg :D
23:38:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok
23:38:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> not this way
23:38:58  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Why not leave the old bridge there?
23:39:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> need more space
23:39:07  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Oh, no room for split
23:39:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> for the doubles
23:39:11  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I see it
23:39:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> we will also need a LL_RR probably soon
23:39:47  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Might need to move the S bend forward 1 tile
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23:40:28  <PublicServer> <Qanael> There you go :D
23:41:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> quite dirty yet :D
23:42:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will keep it in this state
23:43:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> the other tracks are unused
23:43:04  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Yeah
23:43:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> well, not anyhow nice and clean but it will work
23:44:19  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0005A820: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0005A820.png
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23:44:56  <V453000> ^ interesting screenshot :D
23:45:16  <V453000> !password
23:45:16  <PublicServer> V453000: copier
23:45:22  <PeterT> !screen
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23:45:28  <V453000> !stats
23:45:28  <PublicServer> V453000: use @coopstats
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23:45:34  <V453000> @stats
23:45:34  <Webster> V453000: I have 16 registered users with 18 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 5 admins.
23:45:44  <PeterT> V453000: @coopstats
23:45:45  <V453000> @coopstats¨
23:45:46  <V453000> lol
23:45:48  <PeterT> FAIL
23:45:49  <V453000> :D
23:45:53  <V453000> @coopstats
23:45:53  <Webster> http://hyru.ath.cx:60080/~kenji/ottdcoop/stats.html
23:45:53  <PeterT> @coopstats
23:45:54  <Webster> http://hyru.ath.cx:60080/~kenji/ottdcoop/stats.html
23:45:56  <PeterT> ^
23:46:02  <V453000> yes I know :D thx
23:46:16  <PeterT> Are you really that concerned about having the most lines?
23:46:21  <stillunknown> what is that "prio for depo entry?" supposed to achieve?
23:46:24  <V453000> not only that I never remember if it is ! or @ but I also mess up 2 more times :D
23:46:43  <V453000> stillunknown: it gives way to the trains passing by
23:47:51  <V453000> http://hyru.ath.cx:60080/~kenji/ottdcoop/stats30.html
23:47:52  <Webster> Title: #openttdcoop @ OFTC stats by Webster (at hyru.ath.cx:60080)
23:47:56  <V453000> ^omfg :D
23:48:11  <Qanael> Hmm
23:48:16  <Qanael> Does it do that for any site?
23:48:22  <Qanael> http://www.google.com
23:48:23  <Webster> Title: Google (at www.google.com)
23:48:24  <V453000> yes
23:48:26  <stillunknown> V453000: that still doesn't tell me what it does
23:48:26  <Qanael> Nice
23:48:37  <V453000> stillunknown: build it, try it
23:48:44  <Ammler> Qanael: not that you use it for OT things ;-)
23:48:46  <KenjiE20> V453000: easy, ! is for game commands, @ for IRC
23:48:48  <V453000> best way is to join us on the server
23:48:52  <Qanael> I know :P
23:49:09  <V453000> Kenji: which proves me an utter noob in these things :D
23:49:13  <V453000> thanks
23:49:15  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Hmm, transfer 07 still not built
23:49:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> go on
23:49:39  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Could just build it on the SL really, I don't see the reason for all that stuff in the corner
23:49:51  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Since the SL doesn't go anywhere else
23:49:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> I have built 3 alraedy and I dont want to eat up everything :)
23:50:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> Qanael: NO!
23:50:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is the ML SL
23:50:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> it has nothing to do with the food feeders
23:50:28  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Ohhh
23:50:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> check sign To transfer 7
23:50:33  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Yeah I see it :D
23:51:14  <V453000> omfg in the last 30 day I am most active at all hours and I have the most lines written :D oh my god
23:52:02  <PeterT> Proof. You have no life.
23:52:13  <V453000> heh
23:52:15  <V453000> I dont think so
23:52:28  <V453000> I wasnt here for the last two days if you noticed :p
23:52:33  <Ammler> PeterT: go pack to Autopilot!
23:52:40  <V453000> :DDD
23:52:42  <V453000> now you got it
23:52:55  <PeterT> Ammler: I need that package expect, but it's sooo hard to get working! :-(
23:53:00  <Ammler> the p is by intention ;-)
23:53:01  <PeterT> not even an addition to $PATH
23:53:47  <Ammler> try it in simple CMD, only once, please.
23:54:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> ._. transfer 07 has unluckily just one city
23:54:40  <PeterT> Ammler: Doing it in simple CMD is the same as double-clicking
23:54:50  <PeterT> it's like saying:
23:55:02  <stillunknown> V453000: it only ensures a minimal spacing between trains?
23:55:04  <PeterT> openttd.exe -h in CMD == openttd.exe -h in Linux bash
23:55:26  <PublicServer> <Dr. Watson> needs more trains
23:55:29  <V453000> stillunknown: then you built it wrong :)
23:55:36  <V453000> come join in game I will show you
23:57:39  <stillunknown> that would involve compiling whatever version you're running
23:58:26  <V453000> well just download the nightly
23:59:21  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00001B9D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00001B9D.png

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