Log for #openttdcoop on 6th February 2010:
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00:04:55  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Argh damn lack of room
00:05:11  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> where are you working?
00:05:16  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Hendston
00:05:50  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I don't want to do so many climbs on the return track
00:06:00  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I guess I could change the station for a terminus
00:06:07  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> stupid farm + town + mountain :)
00:06:12  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Yeah no kidding
00:06:27  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> wild idea, reverse the station
00:06:44  <PublicServer> <Dr. Watson> could you loop the return track around the mountain, counterclockwise?
00:07:10  <PublicServer> <Qanael>  I could, it'd be really long though
00:07:35  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> or perhaps come this way
00:07:38  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I'll see if I can tunnel the last couple levels
00:08:08  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Hmm that could work
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00:08:57  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I'll do that
00:09:10  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> I even think you can fit a correct CL in the end without terraforming
00:09:20  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Yeah I should be able to
00:10:50  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> like a glove :)
00:10:59  <PublicServer> <Qanael> A job well done, I say
00:11:03  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Pretty good looking too
00:11:15  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> agreed
00:12:21  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0002C489:
00:12:34  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I could put in longer exits with a couple clicks of terraforming
00:12:53  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Actually I don't even need to do that
00:13:17  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> :)
00:13:59  <PublicServer> <Qanael> There we go
00:15:44  <XeryusTC> !dl win64
00:15:44  <PublicServer> XeryusTC:
00:16:47  <XeryusTC> !password
00:16:47  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: meteor
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00:16:58  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Should farm trains use full load?
00:17:20  <KenjiE20> always
00:17:28  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Roger
00:17:43  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, i like the tldr version of the scenario
00:17:48  <KenjiE20> unless there's some weird clause
00:17:59  <KenjiE20> XeryusTC: heh, people would ask otherwise
00:19:53  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> people heve been screwing around with the sign list too much
00:20:20  <KenjiE20> oh?
00:20:45  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it was message board, network plan, slh 2, 4x "-", other slhs :o
00:21:05  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, voting board after network plan too, and after that some question about a prio
00:22:12  <KenjiE20> oh
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00:23:43  <PublicServer> <Kenji> ARG
00:23:57  <PublicServer> <Kenji> a) lost train b) non-shared's
00:24:00  <PublicServer> <Kenji> >_<
00:24:13  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> glad i dont display train info :o
00:24:39  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> as we still cant disable the vehicle is getting old message without disabling all others
00:24:53  <PublicServer> <Kenji> fidn my patch on FS
00:25:06  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> lazy
00:25:27  <PublicServer> <Sietse> no trainyard?
00:25:28  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> Brufinghill farm is really creative
00:27:23  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00025CD6:
00:27:55  <PublicServer> <Kenji> trains finally escaped
00:28:01  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Yeah I was watching that
00:28:07  <PublicServer> <Kenji> how the buggery did trains get into the pickup anyway/
00:28:18  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> meh, this game is boring
00:28:24  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> Kenji: seperate network apparently
00:28:29  <PublicServer> <Kenji> it sort of is
00:28:38  <PublicServer> <Sietse> I prefer mixed ones
00:28:48  <PublicServer> <Kenji> plan should've had the extras on
00:28:49  <PublicServer> <Sietse> more fun to watch merging and spliiting :)
00:28:50  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> the FPP drop just looks so dull
00:28:52  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I made those trains, sorry
00:28:56  <PublicServer> <Sietse> agree
00:28:58  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I guess I made them at the wrong depot?
00:29:05  <PublicServer> <Kenji> presumably
00:29:13  <PublicServer> <Kenji> you also built them without shared orders
00:29:30  <PublicServer> <Kenji> but then, there's only 1
00:29:33  <PublicServer> <Kenji> >_>
00:29:36  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Yeah there's only 1 of each, I was testing
00:29:39  <PublicServer> <Kenji> why bother with a single train?
00:29:43  <PublicServer> <Qanael> To see if something like this happened >.>
00:30:01  <PublicServer> <Kenji> see the !Qanael sign
00:30:07  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I'll put a few more in in a sec, or you can do it if you want - I gotta go
00:31:10  <PublicServer> <Kenji> each SLH usually has it's own injector, you should look for those
00:31:16  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Will do
00:31:24  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i hate people
00:31:31  <PublicServer> <Sietse> lol
00:31:32  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> Kenji: see Frunnley
00:31:44  <PublicServer> <Kenji> do I even want to know?
00:31:52  <PublicServer> <Kenji> oh
00:31:53  <PublicServer> <Kenji> that
00:32:00  <PublicServer> <Kenji> yea, I thought that too
00:32:05  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> could've done with 1/3 of the platforms :P
00:32:22  <PublicServer> <Sietse> hehehe
00:32:28  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> 1/4th actually :P
00:32:34  <PublicServer> <Kenji> giant loopedy loops for farms, is utter overkill
00:32:42  <PublicServer> <Sietse> someone expecting heavy production :)
00:32:53  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, wait for the other correction, 1/6th, didn't see the Wuntwood stations :P
00:33:00  <PublicServer> <Kenji> heh, I like Brufinghill
00:33:16  <PublicServer> <Kenji> apart from it's join
00:33:25  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yeah, brufinghil has massive queue space :o
00:33:30  <PublicServer> <Kenji> :)
00:33:57  <PublicServer> <Kenji> at least it's on the dead bit of the net
00:34:01  <PublicServer> <Sietse> don't forget the doubled tunnels :)
00:34:14  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh great, no depots where trains can enter :s
00:34:27  <PublicServer> <Kenji> that's a good thing XTC
00:34:36  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i want to delete some :P
00:34:42  <PublicServer> <Kenji> so set up a temp one
00:35:13  <PublicServer> <Kenji> lol Hendston
00:35:29  <PublicServer> <Kenji> spamming trains to a new pickup
00:35:34  <PublicServer> <Sietse> whahahah
00:36:32  <PublicServer> <Kenji> ew, a 2x45
00:36:49  <Qanael> Yeah yeah I know :P
00:36:50  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> fun heh :P
00:36:51  <Qanael> It's cleared now anyhow
00:37:00  <PublicServer> <Kenji> yea, I threw them out
00:37:05  <PublicServer> <Qanael> How mean
00:37:08  <PublicServer> <Qanael> You're mean to my poor trains
00:37:14  <PublicServer> <Qanael> ok, gotta go
00:37:19  <PublicServer> <Qanael> See ya all
00:37:25  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> take care
00:37:28  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> trains cant find the depot if they're heading for the drop :s
00:37:30  <PublicServer> <Kenji> Mark's good idea, of making trains do a full loop to space out
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00:38:07  <PublicServer> <Sietse> plenty of space for a SC
00:42:13  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> bubye stupid farms :P
00:42:25  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 000398C7:
00:42:25  <PublicServer> <Kenji> heh
00:42:35  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> or rather, farm stations
00:42:59  <PublicServer> <Sietse> you removed some?
00:43:37  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yes
00:43:42  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> merged 3 into one :P
00:43:48  <PublicServer> <Sietse> walked?
00:43:52  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yes
00:43:54  <PublicServer> <Sietse> or they close?
00:43:55  <PublicServer> <Sietse> ok
00:45:08  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> I remember when stationwalking was an artform :)
00:45:48  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i remember when stationwalking could be done from one side of the map to the other ;)
00:45:55  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and leaving the station sign in place :P
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00:46:19  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> :)
00:46:22  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> although, that was changed not more than a year and a half ago
00:46:26  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> maybe just a year
00:46:34  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ottd development is too fast nowadays
00:47:07  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> wonder if mr Sid is checkin it's progress from time to time
00:47:18  <KenjiE20> sid?
00:47:31  <KenjiE20> sid?!
00:47:38  <KenjiE20> >_<;;
00:47:39  <hylje> sid meier's transport tycoon
00:47:49  <XeryusTC> :')
00:47:51  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> tze creator
00:48:00  <KenjiE20> Chris Sawyer.....
00:48:02  <KenjiE20> -sigh-
00:48:06  <XeryusTC> Chris indeed :P
00:48:19  <PublicServer> * MDGrein blames tiredness
00:48:55  <KenjiE20> Sawyer is quite literally insane though, all 4 games in (mostly) assembler
00:49:20  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> that is a tad sick yes
00:49:25  <PublicServer> <Sietse> that is insane ye :)
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00:55:03  <PublicServer> <Dr. Watson> hendston's backing up again
00:56:05  <PublicServer> <Sietse> 12 trains are way too much at start
00:56:05  <Razaekel> who the hell is crazy enough to code a game in assembler?
00:56:22  <Razaekel> that's just ridiculous
00:57:27  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00036EC2:
00:57:28  <hylje> games back then were smaller
00:57:33  <hylje> and tolerated more bugs
00:57:50  <hylje> performance was much more important then
00:58:04  <MDGrein> every spared bit was golden
00:58:57  <MDGrein> wasn't doom mostly assembler?
00:59:22  <MDGrein> I know bits and pieces of the Quake2 engine was assembler
01:00:22  <XeryusTC> TTO was full assembler, TTD was 98% assembler, the only parts of C in it were for windows api :P
01:01:10  <KenjiE20> if you had the windows version
01:01:33  <MDGrein> they sure knew how to make software back in the days
01:02:08  <MDGrein> nowadays a friggin driver for a printer is often around 100mb
01:02:22  <KenjiE20> but then they do more now
01:02:31  <MDGrein> one million extra little "helperapps" that you just want to strangle
01:02:46  <KenjiE20> back then it was make data RAW, draw dots
01:02:49  <hylje> thhats windows for you
01:02:57  <XeryusTC> they often come with loads of crappy apps indeed
01:03:07  <MDGrein> like if you install nero and just click through...
01:03:11  <KenjiE20> Creative are the worst
01:03:14  <MDGrein> omfg, it takes over the entire system
01:03:27  <KenjiE20> sound drivers as big as video drivers.... no thanks
01:03:28  <XeryusTC> usually if you want to print something you want it to be handled by the program you're working on, not the weird apps that you get with the printer
01:03:28  <PublicServer> <Dr. Watson> back in my  daus, I had to walk two hours to school, in snow, uphill both ways
01:03:54  <MDGrein> you poor thing :)
01:04:03  * KenjiE20 actually did walk uphill both ways to primary
01:04:14  <MDGrein> but atleast the Amiga has killer sound :)
01:04:19  <XeryusTC> hurray for the dutchlands, flatness all around
01:04:19  <MDGrein> and games for that matter
01:04:21  <PublicServer> <Sietse> all farms connected
01:04:22  <KenjiE20> pfft ST
01:04:26  <KenjiE20> :P
01:05:10  <XeryusTC> hmm, silly ubuntu
01:05:15  <XeryusTC> having no .org address :o
01:05:25  <MDGrein> yeah, like php
01:05:28  <KenjiE20> you didn't need to qualify that tbh
01:05:31  <MDGrein> donno how often i misstype that
01:05:42  <KenjiE20> "silly ubuntu" is valid, all by itsefl
01:05:46  <KenjiE20> itself*
01:05:49  <MDGrein> :)
01:05:49  <KenjiE20> :P
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01:06:50  <XeryusTC> im going to get myself some linux again this weekend
01:06:55  <XeryusTC> after some 3 or 4 years without it :o
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01:07:07  <PublicServer> <Dr. Watson> yay linux
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01:07:59  <sietse> ubuntu awesome for desktop usage imo
01:08:50  <KenjiE20|LT> ubuntu has lots of weird oddities
01:09:08  <KenjiE20|LT> doesn't make it unusable, just weird
01:09:38  <XeryusTC> ah well
01:09:43  <Ammler> yeah, ubunutu isn't really free :-)
01:09:45  <XeryusTC> i just need to get some linux running again
01:09:46  <Ammler> oh, and good night
01:09:54  <XeryusTC> as i am planning to finally migrate properly
01:10:11  <sietse> I am actually fine with ubuntu
01:10:20  * KenjiE20|LT uses Slackware, but then I'm odd
01:10:36  <XeryusTC> i used to use fedora
01:10:45  <XeryusTC> but that fucked up a few times :o
01:10:46  <MDGrein> I'm running a few slackware servers
01:11:00  <sietse> I just really like apt and used to debian based distros
01:11:16  <Ammler> don't trust software from .com ;-)
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01:11:38  <MDGrein> i'm off
01:11:42  <MDGrein> c ya'll another day
01:11:46  <PublicServer> <Sietse> gnight
01:12:29  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0001C356:
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01:14:15  <Ammler> but more important than the distro is the Windows Manager....
01:15:37  <sietse> definitely
01:16:09  <sietse> but for most purposes / users Gnome or KDE will suffice
01:16:10  <XeryusTC> quite
01:16:25  <Ammler> yeah, but is that possible with ubuntu?
01:16:35  <sietse> and gives generally taken the nicest look
01:16:44  <Ammler> or xfce4, lxde might also be nice
01:16:46  <sietse> you can run whatever you want
01:17:05  <sietse> I only ran Fluxbox previously (on Debian)
01:17:12  <Ammler> ok, thought you need kubuntu and such
01:17:19  <Ammler> or xubuntu..
01:17:26  <sietse> kubuntu is to installer for it
01:17:44  <sietse> but you can change aswell
01:18:03  <sietse> xfce and gnome are default available
01:18:34  <sietse> aaha... game paused
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01:18:59  <sietse> good moment to quit :)
01:19:10  <sietse> and start being more productive!
01:20:09  <Ammler> sleeping?
01:20:16  <Ammler> well, I do... :-)
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01:21:39  <ixiion> !go
01:21:46  <ixiion> !quickstart
01:21:53  <ixiion> @help
01:21:53  <Webster> ixiion: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
01:22:12  <KenjiE20|LT> try re-reading the topic
01:22:17  <ixiion> :P
01:22:40  <XeryusTC> :')
01:22:42  <ixiion> help also work with the @ sign
01:22:45  <XeryusTC> nice one :P
01:23:02  <ixiion> hello ,btw
01:24:12  <ixiion> any germans here playing? :P
01:24:25  <XeryusTC> only 40% of us
01:24:44  <XeryusTC> or well, german/swiss/austrians
01:25:10  <ixiion> okay then its easier to communicate :P
01:25:32  <XeryusTC> we only use english in here
01:26:04  <ixiion> ic
01:26:51  <ixiion> damn i forgot the <ironie> tags again
01:28:12  <ixiion> are you playing currently ?
01:28:46  <XeryusTC> probably
01:28:51  <XeryusTC> the servers are always open
01:29:07  <XeryusTC> could be that no one is online at this time though
01:29:25  <ixiion> that was my question
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01:29:34  <ixiion> however
01:29:36  <grim4593> !download win64
01:29:36  <PublicServer> grim4593:
01:30:11  <ixiion> does the win64 version has any advantages?
01:30:29  <grim4593> no idea, but am on a 64 bit OS, so why not :)
01:30:30  <ixiion> sse2 or something ?
01:30:41  <ixiion> k
01:31:11  <Razaekel> no advantage
01:31:14  <grim4593> i somehow doubt the game uses too many 64 bit integers and so forth.
01:32:00  <ixiion> but you could use compile flags like sse2 wich every 64bit cpu supports
01:32:26  <grim4593> yeah
01:32:39  <ixiion> every x86_64 i meant
01:33:09  <ixiion> then your trains might run faster xD
01:33:23  <grim4593> lol
01:33:50  <grim4593> well i remember on my laptop i couldn't run some of the public games in here once the train level got high enough
01:34:15  <ixiion> hmm
01:34:34  <ixiion> blame the developers for bloated code :P
01:34:41  <grim4593> nahg
01:34:56  <ixiion> the original version was running on a 386 66mhz
01:35:12  <grim4593> i blamed the 1000+ trains the "developers" of the network plan called for :P
01:35:46  <ixiion> okay true
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01:36:58  <ixiion> i was actually looking for a feature wich i have seen ages ago in a patched ottd version and are still missing so much
01:37:06  <grim4593> oh?
01:37:26  <ixiion> it was a waypoint wich worked as a traffic counter
01:37:51  <ixiion> was pretty need to measure your network contructions
01:37:55  <ixiion> neat
01:38:05  <grim4593> hmm
01:38:31  <ixiion> like 14 train last month / max ever 20
01:39:08  <ixiion> do you know if there is a patch for the current version of this ?
01:39:12  <grim4593> i do not.
01:39:18  <grim4593> it sounds very useful though
01:39:20  <XeryusTC> probably outdated
01:40:14  <ixiion> my programming skill actually are not the best, i have read the old diff but were not able to get it working again
01:42:37  <ixiion> does the 1.0 version of ottd also get full background sounds? or are they not finished yet ( sry iam a bit out of date)
01:44:43  <ixiion> btw. the old patch thread :
01:44:45  <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums • View topic - Train counter (at
01:45:06  <ixiion> wow the bot is good :)
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05:06:55  <Qanael> Hi everyone
05:07:06  <Qanael> !playercount
05:07:06  <PublicServer> Qanael: Number of players: 0
05:08:35  <Qanael> !password
05:08:35  <PublicServer> Qanael: trough
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06:39:04  <jondisti> !password
06:39:04  <PublicServer> jondisti: papacy
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06:42:31  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 000278B8:
06:43:18  <pasteur> !players
06:43:20  <PublicServer> pasteur: Client 316 (Orange) is jond1sti, in company 1 (OTTDC PSG#175)
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09:36:11  <haseo> !info
09:36:11  <PublicServer> haseo: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'OTTDC PSG#175'  Year Founded: 1950  Money: 160389597  Loan: 0  Value: 217760817  (T:238, R:0, P:8, S:0) unprotected
09:36:45  <haseo> !players
09:36:46  <PublicServer> haseo: There are currently no clients connected to the server
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09:40:09  <haseo> !passwor
09:40:13  <haseo> !password
09:40:13  <PublicServer> haseo: blared
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10:03:42  <ODM> mornin
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10:06:50  <mitooo> !playercount
10:06:50  <PublicServer> mitooo: Number of players: 0
10:06:55  <mitooo> !password
10:06:55  <PublicServer> mitooo: squads
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10:07:29  <subz> 8)
10:07:47  <mitooo> hey :)
10:08:17  <ODM> ellow
10:12:34  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0007B314:
10:14:04  <ODM> !password
10:14:04  <PublicServer> ODM: capers
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10:17:11  <PublicServer> <0DM> woo running trains
10:17:36  <PublicServer> <Mitooo> impressed?
10:17:45  <PublicServer> <0DM> yes, ive never seen a train run:p
10:18:20  <PublicServer> <Mitooo> and a jam ?
10:18:36  <PublicServer> <0DM> nah, im a total newbie:P
10:20:25  <PublicServer> <0DM> hmm the food bit is a tad confusing:p
10:24:35  <^Spike^> ODM the reason i also wondered what the other plans were...
10:24:36  <PublicServer> <0DM> how long have you been playing anyway?:)
10:24:41  <^Spike^> but seems ppl saw the need to delete them
10:24:48  <^Spike^> don't see why.. seeing the space but well
10:25:06  <PublicServer> <0DM> we'll survive
10:25:09  <PublicServer> <0DM> also, goodmoaning:p
10:25:15  <^Spike^> :)
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10:26:33  <PublicServer> <0DM> ohno you use a normal ingame nick nowadays:P
10:26:57  <PublicServer> <Spike> i was forced to...
10:27:18  <PublicServer> <Spike> some ppl from the countries to the east/southeast of us.. can't type the ^
10:27:19  <PublicServer> <Spike> :)
10:27:24  <PublicServer> <0DM> heh:p
10:27:56  <PublicServer> <0DM> right, im gonna get some food
10:28:03  <PublicServer> <0DM> and then im actually gonna build some stuff
10:28:06  <PublicServer> <Spike> oeh.. seems someone fixed the ugly/bad i signed..
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10:28:56  <PublicServer> <0DM> hmm check !say what now?
10:29:23  <PublicServer> <Spike> S-Curve
10:29:31  <PublicServer> <Spike> fpp pickup has TL 3 so
10:29:32  <PublicServer> <0DM> no i mean... why is it there:P
10:29:44  <PublicServer> <0DM> the whole track
10:30:11  <PublicServer> <0DM> like if one set of tracks is full, try another?
10:30:13  <PublicServer> <Spike> good question..
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10:30:40  <PublicServer> <Spike> ask combuster? :)
10:30:41  <PublicServer> <Spike> he made it
10:30:43  <PublicServer> <Spike> :D
10:31:00  <PublicServer> <0DM> hehe, fair point
10:31:25  <PublicServer> <Spike> i didn't build much lately... mostly watched cause of college stuff
10:31:37  <PublicServer> <0DM> i didnt build anything at all:( need to get back into it
10:32:35  <PublicServer> <0DM> i see some really weird stuff:D
10:32:49  <PublicServer> <Spike> you missed weird games aswell.. :)
10:32:54  <PublicServer> <0DM> hehe
10:32:59  <PublicServer> <0DM> weirder than 121?
10:33:06  <PublicServer> <Spike> cam
10:33:09  <PublicServer> <Spike> can't tell
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10:37:22  <PublicServer> <0DM> heh
10:37:28  <PublicServer> <0DM> mmmm kampioentje zeeuws spek
10:37:42  <^Spike^> ?
10:38:00  <PublicServer> <0DM> very tasty:p
10:38:05  <PublicServer> <Spike> ah.
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10:44:29  <XeryusTC2> hmm
10:44:40  <XeryusTC2> why am i unable to connect to the bouncer?
10:44:41  <PublicServer> <0DM> ohno xeryus multiplied:O
10:47:08  <PublicServer> <0DM> i have no idea
10:47:08  * XeryusTC2 pokes Ammler 
10:47:34  <XeryusTC2> i get reconnecting too fast all the time :S
10:47:45  <PublicServer> <0DM> slow down^^
10:50:22  <PublicServer> <0DM> heh, check predingtown valley livestock
10:50:24  <PublicServer> <0DM> cheats!:D
10:50:36  <XeryusTC2> doesn't matter if i wait two minutes :s
10:52:15  <XeryusTC2> and then the internets died :s
10:52:34  <PublicServer> <0DM> it doesnt sound good
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10:53:25  <XeryusTC2> hmm
10:53:29  <XeryusTC2> just gayness all around
10:53:32  <XeryusTC2> weird ubuntu :o
10:54:05  <^Spike^> ....
10:54:13  <^Spike^> XeryusTC what crapp provider you have...
10:54:15  <^Spike^> cappy*
10:54:27  <PublicServer> <0DM> crappy*
10:54:36  <^Spike^> yeah that...
10:54:37  <^Spike^> :D
10:54:43  <PublicServer> <0DM> typing's hard^^
10:54:49  <^Spike^> it's still morning..
10:54:51  <^Spike^> ;)
10:54:57  <PublicServer> <0DM> just!
10:55:01  <^Spike^> STILL! :D
10:55:11  <PublicServer> <0DM> hehe
10:55:26  <XeryusTC2> * Connected. Now logging in... * Closing link [Please try again later - reconnecting too fast] * Disconnected (Remote host closed socket).
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10:55:58  <^Spike^> to the bnc?
10:56:15  <^Spike^> don't connect for 5 mins or so.. and try again?
10:56:31  <XeryusTC2> yes
10:56:31  <XeryusTC2> that's what i get basicly
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10:59:29  <PublicServer> <0DM> are farm productions affected by seasons?
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11:07:37  <XeryusTC> there, done
11:07:47  <XeryusTC> stupid case sensitivity
11:07:56  <PublicServer> <0DM> lol
11:08:01  <PublicServer> <0DM> buce ibe
11:08:05  <PublicServer> <0DM> uh nice one
11:08:38  <XeryusTC> well, and that xchat probably tried to connect to the server multiple times didnt help that much either
11:09:39  <XeryusTC> w00t
11:09:57  <PublicServer> <0DM> someone is happy:p
11:10:06  <XeryusTC> some' s testing stuff :P
11:10:12  <XeryusTC> someone*
11:11:43  * XeryusTC test
11:12:37  * XeryusTC tests some more
11:12:41  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0007E060:
11:12:57  <ODM> whatcha testin?
11:14:02  <XeryusTC> text
11:14:43  <XeryusTC> hmm
11:14:46  <ODM> uh okey
11:14:48  <XeryusTC> broken :s
11:14:50  <ODM> if you say so:P
11:15:06  <XeryusTC> less broken :D
11:15:11  <XeryusTC> actually, working :D
11:17:14  <XeryusTC> and my internet connection keeps bailing out on me :s
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11:23:35  <XeryusTC> lou lou lou, opera under linux :D
11:24:32  <XeryusTC> or well, i will have opera under linux when the packages get updated :P
11:25:26  <ODM> geek! cough
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11:28:51  <V453000> !password
11:28:51  <PublicServer> V453000: weaves
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11:29:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> hello there
11:30:46  <ODM> mornin
11:30:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi ODM :)
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11:34:25  <ODM> hows it goin?
11:34:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think quite fine so far
11:38:56  <XeryusTC> now it's working :D
11:39:05  <V453000> hm?
11:39:11  <XeryusTC> opera :P
11:39:21  <V453000> :)
11:39:24  <ODM> opera needs a working F6
11:41:22  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> SLH03 is bugged
11:41:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> where
11:41:51  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> balancing doesnt work when exiting SE
11:42:05  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> trains pick left track and wait at huge prio
11:42:10  <ODM> get the flysquatter:D
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11:42:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> hmmm
11:43:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think at least for now it is quite fine
11:43:11  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> now
11:43:44  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> again... middle track is free
11:44:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think this is basically how it should work
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11:44:32  <ODM> !password
11:44:32  <PublicServer> ODM: swords
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11:44:56  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> just see a lot of trains waiting even though middle track is free
11:45:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
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11:45:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> that doesnt matter much I think
11:45:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> the prio could also be shorter
11:46:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> empty trains accelerate very fast
11:47:13  <PublicServer> <0DM> hm thats a bit weird indeed
11:47:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> SLH 03?
11:47:54  <PublicServer> <0DM> yeah the selection thing
11:47:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
11:48:06  <PublicServer> <0DM> apparently they like the other track alot more^^
11:48:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> ye :|
11:50:45  <PublicServer> <0DM> nop, no clue:P
11:51:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> I tried this as well :)
11:51:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> no idea
11:51:02  <PublicServer> <0DM> maybe they're allergic
11:51:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
11:51:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> or just stupid
11:51:44  <PublicServer> <0DM> CL == TL?
11:51:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
11:51:50  <PublicServer> <0DM> k
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11:52:35  <PublicServer> <0DM> heh, just had a good giggle here
11:52:38  <PublicServer> <0DM> check !this
11:52:45  <XeryusTC> !screen
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11:53:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> hmmm
11:53:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> damn
11:53:48  <PublicServer> <0DM> crafty cumbrian bastards:P
11:54:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> cumbrian? :D
11:54:11  <PublicServer> <0DM> yeah why not
11:54:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok :)
11:54:22  <PublicServer> <0DM> the junction still seems a bit useless though^^
11:54:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
11:54:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> wait
11:54:38  <PublicServer> <0DM> just leave it till were actually gonna connect it
11:54:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> ?
11:55:18  <PublicServer> <0DM> we dont even know if the track is gonna go there
11:55:23  <PublicServer> <0DM> probably not:p
11:55:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> it will
11:55:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> well
11:55:52  <PublicServer> <0DM> uh i meant the other side;)
11:55:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> maybe not :D
11:55:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh
11:56:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah
11:56:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok then I will leave it as this
11:56:25  <PublicServer> <0DM> lets see if i can get some work done
11:56:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> the transfers system needs work
11:57:00  <PublicServer> <0DM> yup
11:57:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> I actually dont get it why the transfers have 2x TL4 when it is 1x TL3 and 1x TL2
11:57:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> for example Transfer 01
11:57:33  <PublicServer> <0DM> i wondered that myself
11:57:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> or 04
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11:57:47  <PublicServer> <0DM> feel free to shorten, though it cant hurt ofcourse
11:57:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
11:58:03  <PublicServer> <0DM> 04 is definately confusing me, track layout wise:p
11:58:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> O_O
11:58:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> haseo ...
11:58:42  <PublicServer> <0DM> he's quite new?:p
11:58:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> well
11:58:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> he is not just new
11:59:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> he is very active and willing to build ...
11:59:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> more than others I think
11:59:26  <KenjiE20> but?
11:59:32  <PublicServer> <0DM> thats good, but he needs some guidance im guessing?
11:59:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> but doesnt accept many advices ... for example from me
11:59:54  <PublicServer> <0DM> thats less good
12:00:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> he will get to agree it in time I believe :)
12:00:34  <PublicServer> <0DM> hehe
12:00:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> damn the more I speak english, the worse it is :D
12:00:49  <PublicServer> <0DM> hows the level of building been in past games?
12:01:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> level of building?
12:01:08  <PublicServer> <0DM> yeah, shitty or good:p
12:01:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> you mean how were we lazy? :D
12:01:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh
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12:01:12  <KenjiE20> eh...
12:01:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> hmmm
12:01:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> quite low
12:01:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> last game was screwed on some places
12:01:34  <PublicServer> <0DM> :(
12:01:39  <PublicServer> <0DM> hope we can change that a bit
12:01:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> me too
12:02:22  <PublicServer> <0DM> by the way, im thinking of making a boost map/game for 176, yay?
12:02:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> it was bad ... new players took over several cities and grew them ... just grew, without a proper Sbahn or just somehow predicting how will it grow
12:02:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> boooost :)
12:02:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> wasnt here for quite some time
12:02:47  <PublicServer> <0DM> doubt we will beat the record, but we can have a go.
12:03:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> you mean the 100k from 121?
12:03:04  <KenjiE20> good, cause I'm running low on ideas
12:03:11  <PublicServer> <0DM> yeah the 100k
12:03:16  <PublicServer> <0DM> im thinking 5 factories:p[
12:03:21  <KenjiE20> 121k
12:03:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
12:03:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> cool
12:03:41  <PublicServer> <0DM> 121? it couldnt have reached that:p
12:03:56  <KenjiE20> dunno, my memory isn't working today
12:03:59  <KenjiE20> @records
12:03:59  <Webster> #openttdcoop Records: Clients: 24 | Trains: 2000 (PSG#131) - 2522 (PZG#5) | Single cargo output: 100,367 (PSG#121) | World Pop: 3,075,319 (PSG#101) 
12:04:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
12:04:03  <PublicServer> <0DM> it was 107k or something
12:04:06  <KenjiE20> fair enough
12:04:12  <PublicServer> <0DM> hehe
12:04:24  <PublicServer> <0DM> i love how that was like the first time we realised industries had limits
12:04:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> wow the trains unload for quite long time
12:04:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
12:04:45  <KenjiE20> but anyway, ODM, yes make maps, I'm about out of them
12:04:54  <PublicServer> <0DM> hehe ok:)
12:05:03  <PublicServer> <0DM> we'll see how i fail, been ages
12:05:12  <KenjiE20> most of the last 2 dozen or so have been mine I think
12:05:16  <PublicServer> <0DM> thinking of putting it in the corner instead of center this time
12:05:37  <KenjiE20> so increasing ML widths
12:05:57  <PublicServer> <0DM> forcing some creativity out of people;)
12:06:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> I have a very small scenario with a huge hill and high train weight multiplier settings ... the game is very interesting and entertaining bu tthat would better for OSQC probably as it is just 128^2
12:06:08  <KenjiE20> I tried that this game ODM
12:06:18  <KenjiE20> and now we have a line
12:06:20  <KenjiE20> :P
12:06:24  <PublicServer> <0DM> :p
12:06:29  <PublicServer> <0DM> still, i like the scenario
12:06:40  <PublicServer> <0DM> good to be back^^
12:06:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)))
12:07:00  <KenjiE20> buster's was the more interesting, personally, but this is what 'the people' wanted
12:07:08  <KenjiE20> so who'm I to argue
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12:07:13  <PublicServer> <0DM> what was his plan?
12:07:14  <KenjiE20> oh wait
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12:07:35  <V453000> I have to agree with you Kenji
12:07:40  <V453000> !password
12:07:40  <PublicServer> V453000: aortas
12:07:46  <KenjiE20> his was the farm only grid lower and FPP star upper
12:07:53  <PublicServer> <0DM> hm okey
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12:08:08  <KenjiE20> with the E/W food using the ML spurs up the sides
12:08:18  <KenjiE20> and a bank in the lower corner
12:08:20  <PublicServer> <0DM> planning isnt my forte:P ive only ever won once
12:09:05  <KenjiE20> <- none
12:09:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> really?
12:09:15  <KenjiE20> but then I think I've only made like 3 plans
12:09:32  <PublicServer> <0DM> better at the building:)
12:09:38  <KenjiE20> V453000: yes, but I make bigger plans, in the maps :P
12:10:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> I remember the first plan I made ... I made a HUGE plan with totally high amount of signs, completely chaos in reading :D
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12:10:40  <PublicServer> <0DM> i do that aswell:(
12:10:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> I am trying to avoid it lately
12:11:15  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> less is more :)
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12:13:52  <Intexon> !password
12:13:52  <PublicServer> Intexon: insure
12:13:59  <PublicServer> <0DM> im slowly starting on the food network
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12:14:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> I see ... very good
12:14:15  <KenjiE20> omnom?
12:14:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will build some transfer
12:14:25  <PublicServer> <0DM> trying to follow low TF rule^^ always nice
12:14:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes :)
12:14:52  <KenjiE20> remember that valley line that got built in 132?
12:14:58  <PublicServer> <0DM> no
12:15:08  <KenjiE20> that was really pretty, right till it got pulled p :(
12:15:11  <KenjiE20> up*
12:15:14  <V453000> @psgsave132
12:15:18  <PublicServer> <0DM> :(
12:15:22  <V453000> what is the command, kenji?
12:15:24  <KenjiE20> 132 kinda failed
12:15:27  <KenjiE20> you need a space
12:15:46  <V453000> @psgsave 132
12:15:46  <Webster> PSG 132 Archive entry;
12:15:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> win!
12:15:58  <KenjiE20> 132's plan changed mid-building, which was sort of.....
12:16:09  <ODM> aah that one
12:16:11  <ODM> didnt like it:P
12:16:28  <KenjiE20> it started out nice, with ML's snaking everywhere
12:16:40  <KenjiE20> then the plan changed, and they went straight over
12:16:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> :<
12:16:58  <PublicServer> <0DM> crafty cumbrians.
12:17:09  <V453000> how could a plan change?
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12:18:26  <PublicServer> <0DM> mismanagement^^
12:18:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> :|
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12:19:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> I see SLH03 has no farms :D
12:19:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh
12:19:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> one
12:19:44  <PublicServer> <0DM> prospect:PO
12:19:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> later :)
12:20:13  <KenjiE20> I was amused by the apparent surprise at farms shutting in the mountains, on SLH01
12:20:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> hmmm
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12:20:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> well the ML expands only one line at the whole mountain area so not many farms are expected there
12:21:15  <PublicServer> <0DM> most will be south indeed
12:25:03  <PublicServer> <0DM> hmm my head isnt cooperating
12:25:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
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12:26:23  <V453000> !password
12:26:24  <PublicServer> V453000: insure
12:26:26  <PublicServer> <0DM> boom
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12:29:42  <PublicServer> <0DM> my speed is appaling:(
12:29:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> rusty? :)
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12:35:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> ODM! lets connect !A with !B ?
12:36:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> sry for the exclamation mark at you :D
12:36:11  <PublicServer> <0DM> lol:p
12:36:37  <PublicServer> <0DM> dont think they connect together like that
12:36:42  <PublicServer> <0DM> i have to finish the main loop first
12:36:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok
12:36:58  <PublicServer> <0DM> *points at !Connection plan*
12:37:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> I see
12:37:31  <PublicServer> <0DM> are you decent at mergers?^^
12:37:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> depends
12:37:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> where?
12:37:55  <PublicServer> <0DM> check !merge 4>3
12:38:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D damn
12:38:08  <PublicServer> <0DM> :p
12:38:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> quite bad numbers
12:38:17  <PublicServer> <0DM> yup
12:38:35  <PublicServer> <0DM> oh, something i want to see in a game soon: big trains
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12:38:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> long?
12:38:47  <PublicServer> <0DM> yeah:p
12:38:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> :/
12:39:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> I like short
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12:39:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> also have a game with TL1 only ^^
12:39:25  <PublicServer> <0DM> hehe
12:39:47  <KenjiE20> did that, on a PZ
12:39:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> I saw :)
12:40:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> but with maglev :) I used rail
12:40:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> and on 256^2
12:40:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> was quite fun
12:40:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> one of the best games I have ever played
12:40:34  <PublicServer> <0DM> interesting for sure
12:40:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> the hubs with CL1 looked awsum :D
12:41:06  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> tight little buggers :)
12:41:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
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12:41:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi combuster :)
12:41:29  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> but with tons of bridges/tunnels i would assume
12:41:36  <PublicServer> <0DM> eya guys
12:41:37  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Hi Vbignum
12:41:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> combuster: thanks for the things you did in game :) I like it all
12:41:48  <PublicServer> <Combuster> I see my plan got approved?
12:41:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
12:41:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> very nice
12:42:08  <PublicServer> <0DM> im sortof trying to build it:p
12:42:22  <V453000> MDGrein: I made every bridge or tunnel long 3 so it was fine
12:42:27  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Its a bit like retrofitting
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12:43:36  <PublicServer> <0DM> what was the button to repeat bridge bruild?
12:43:39  <PublicServer> <0DM> build*
12:43:42  <PublicServer> <Combuster> ctrl+drag
12:43:48  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> cool, the FPP is hardly distinguishable from the station around it :)
12:43:49  <PublicServer> <0DM> tyvm
12:44:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> the candy at FPP is nice :) combuster...
12:44:34  <PublicServer> <Combuster> The drop's not mine
12:44:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> I really liked candying the drop
12:44:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> was something different as there are the two track directions
12:44:54  <PublicServer> <0DM> somoene's been really creative
12:45:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> me :)
12:45:11  <PublicServer> <0DM> i dont think ive ever seen that station design
12:45:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> I built it once in a PSG
12:45:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> but smaller
12:45:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> and it was almost unused
12:45:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> so :|
12:45:36  <PublicServer> <0DM> heh
12:45:43  <PublicServer> <0DM> creativity is always nice
12:45:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure :)
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12:46:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> the most funny thing is that this type of terminus is probably my very oldest "first advanced station" design :)
12:47:00  <PublicServer> <0DM> i want to build a spinner station again^^
12:47:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> not with the "twin entry-exit" but just a signle branch :)
12:47:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> spinner?
12:47:21  <PublicServer> <0DM> yeah:P has trains going in all 4 directions
12:47:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
12:47:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> I thought about a station in circle
12:47:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> that trains go from the outside inside
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12:47:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> until they find a platform
12:47:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> then go through tunnel outside the circle
12:48:02  <PublicServer> <0DM> heh crossing the mainline takes ages:D
12:48:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
12:48:32  <PublicServer> <0DM> lol, creative merger
12:48:39  <PublicServer> <0DM> its true that the line without a choice will be most empty:)
12:48:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
12:48:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
12:49:12  <PublicServer> <0DM> you could add some penalties to force the other 3 inward, but not sure if thatll help
12:49:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> you read my mind
12:49:38  <PublicServer> <0DM> not the first time i play;)
12:49:41  <PublicServer> <Combuster> V453000, did you find the looparound tracks in the FPP pickup?
12:49:57  <PublicServer> <0DM> i labeled one !say what now:p
12:49:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> I see them, yes
12:50:02  <PublicServer> <Combuster> the pickup is a circle layout
12:50:05  <PublicServer> <0DM> was a bit confused as to what is the use
12:50:16  <PublicServer> <0DM> but one doesnt circle, right?
12:50:19  <PublicServer> <0DM> the bottom one
12:50:27  <PublicServer> <Combuster> true, true
12:50:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> interesting
12:50:38  <PublicServer> <0DM> so is that the pit of doom?
12:50:55  <PublicServer> <Combuster> sortof
12:51:02  <PublicServer> <0DM> then theres just too many trains:p
12:51:03  <PublicServer> <Combuster> but it's got plenty of queueing space
12:51:28  <PublicServer> <0DM> combuster, where do you want the fancy junction for food?
12:51:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> these are interesting :)
12:52:29  <PublicServer> <0DM> do the pres do anything? wouldnt it function the same if you added just one set of doubles?
12:52:45  <PublicServer> <Combuster> in my station
12:52:59  <PublicServer> <Combuster> force the trains to go around if there's no platform
12:53:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah but would it work without the exit ones?
12:53:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think it would
12:53:20  <PublicServer> <0DM> i meant just use without any pres
12:53:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> I use the same at transfer 03
12:53:23  <PublicServer> <0DM> just add doubles
12:53:24  <PublicServer> <Combuster> more like, forcing one way signals
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12:54:01  <PublicServer> <0DM> you need the doubles for deadend, and singles for no returning trains?
12:54:22  <PublicServer> <Combuster> not need
12:54:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> why should they return there?
12:54:32  <PublicServer> <Combuster> but that was the idea
12:54:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
12:54:40  <PublicServer> <0DM> ok:p
12:54:44  <PublicServer> <0DM> he had a lot of time^^
12:55:20  <PublicServer> <0DM> are the trains alright with long hills?
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12:55:49  <PublicServer> <0DM> oh its downhill, nvm
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12:57:41  <PublicServer> <0DM> darn another merger:p
12:57:46  <V453000> I think they have enough power anyway
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12:57:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> so np with the hill
12:58:20  <PublicServer> <0DM> you changed screen while in a sentence?:p
12:58:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> ^^
12:58:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> I do that often :D
12:58:43  <XeryusTC> hmm
12:58:53  <XeryusTC> maybe i should get OpenGFX with my linux install of ottd :o
13:01:03  <PublicServer> <0DM> need
13:01:12  <PublicServer> <0DM> now how am i gonna do this:D
13:01:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> what where who why when?
13:01:33  <PublicServer> <0DM> with the merge:p
13:01:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
13:01:48  <PublicServer> <0DM> oh, with need, i meant neat
13:02:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> that explains something :D
13:02:12  <PublicServer> <0DM> its early ok!
13:02:25  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> agreed
13:02:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> you are from Germany, arent you ODM? :D
13:02:44  <PublicServer> <Combuster> wrong!
13:02:47  <PublicServer> <0DM> wrong.
13:02:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh
13:02:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> damn
13:02:56  <PublicServer> <0DM> what makes you think that?:O
13:03:01  <V453000> dont know :D
13:03:24  <V453000> ok sorry :)
13:04:02  <PublicServer> <0DM> right, this must be the ugliest thing ever:D
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13:04:07  <V453000> still ... I wanted to say that you have the same time as me and here it is 14 03
13:04:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh yeah
13:04:20  <PublicServer> <0DM> only just lost the hangover, so its still early
13:04:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> fear not I got drunk too yesterday
13:04:57  <PublicServer> <0DM> after an entire night of pool, i had a score of 0:p
13:05:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
13:05:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> cool
13:05:16  <PublicServer> <0DM> was -5 at one point, so its alright:p
13:05:17  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> isn't that a bit of an achievement
13:05:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> if we played together you would get at least 1 :D
13:05:39  <PublicServer> <0DM> are you good?
13:05:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh so :)
13:05:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
13:05:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> I almost never played pool :)
13:06:00  <PublicServer> <0DM> ooh you mean against eachother, i thought team:p
13:06:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
13:07:52  <PublicServer> <Combuster> erm
13:07:55  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> farms really are slow with the production increases...
13:07:59  <PublicServer> <0DM> they are
13:08:06  <PublicServer> <Combuster> what's with this low-tf rule
13:08:34  <PublicServer> <0DM> oh thats not nice
13:08:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
13:08:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> haseo I guess
13:08:57  <PublicServer> <0DM> besides, that line shouldnt be there anyway
13:08:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> or maybe not
13:09:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> dont know
13:09:04  <PublicServer> <0DM> atleast not to FPP pickip
13:09:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol yes :)
13:09:24  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Any problems if I tear apart that hub and tracks?
13:09:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> no objections
13:09:47  <PublicServer> <0DM> i am undecided about spots
13:10:37  <PublicServer> <0DM> if anyone recognizes that, i am proud:p
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13:11:58  <V453000> !password
13:11:58  <PublicServer> V453000: snugly
13:12:03  <XeryusTC> !ip
13:12:03  <PublicServer> XeryusTC:
13:12:17  <V453000> wifi at home -.-
13:12:23  <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game
13:12:27  <PublicServer> <0DM> go wifi!
13:12:29  <XeryusTC> !grf
13:12:29  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: (Version 7.3)
13:12:42  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> wifi pwns :)
13:12:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> wifi itself it good
13:12:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> but this one
13:12:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> ...
13:12:57  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0002131E:
13:12:57  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> d-link?
13:13:01  <PublicServer> <0DM> woo, ive built something:D
13:13:03  <PublicServer> <0DM> sucky:p
13:14:16  <PublicServer> <0DM> hmm, bonnbrdige looks kinda useless:p
13:14:24  <PublicServer> <0DM> the single farm on the line died
13:14:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> heh
13:14:42  <PublicServer> <0DM> thats a bit sad
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13:14:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> prospect later
13:15:53  <PublicServer> <0DM> so combuster, was this what you had in mind?
13:16:17  <PublicServer> <Combuster> what?
13:16:24  <PublicServer> <0DM> with the food plan
13:16:26  <PublicServer> <Combuster> the TF cleanup, yes
13:16:36  <PublicServer> <Combuster> looks good
13:16:42  <PublicServer> <0DM> no i mean the other bit
13:16:51  <PublicServer> <0DM> the loop and exits etc
13:16:53  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Combuster: looks good
13:17:41  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> just so that everyone knows... coke and touchpads do mix well and the results are hideous...
13:17:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
13:17:59  <PublicServer> <0DM> that doesnt sound good
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13:18:58  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> had to replace the keyboard and now the right mouse button has an unwanted highfrequency klick to it
13:19:21  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> click*
13:19:22  <PublicServer> <0DM> btw, taksi and a mouse do not mix well either
13:19:42  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> :)
13:19:54  <PublicServer> <0DM> i cant scroll left anymore:p
13:21:33  <PublicServer> <0DM> also, to which line is transfer 4 connected?:p
13:22:50  * MDGrein is off to catch some foods
13:23:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> I really like the grey wagons with red trains
13:23:52  <XeryusTC> !password
13:23:52  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: bloods
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13:24:05  <Ammler> ok, red 2k lok :-)
13:24:40  <PublicServer> <0DM> yeah the swiss are quite alright with trains^^
13:24:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
13:25:03  <XeryusTC> !password
13:25:03  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: bloods
13:26:58  <PublicServer> <0DM> what i always wondered, apparently swiss trains are always on time... but do they drive often?
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13:27:57  <KenjiE20> yes, but there's only one of them :P
13:27:59  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0000AD59:
13:28:08  <Ammler> ODM: quite, our train network is like coop networks
13:28:41  <PublicServer> <0DM> like once an hour?:p
13:29:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> if it was like openttd it would be like once a few days :D
13:29:14  <Ammler> once a hour a IC, every half a regio,
13:29:22  <Ammler> every 20 a s-bahn
13:29:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> cool
13:29:48  <PublicServer> <0DM> because its easier if they dont drive too often
13:29:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> also Swiss trams are amazing
13:29:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> I was at St Gallen
13:30:06  <Ammler> st. gallen has no trams
13:30:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> was huge difference from the czech ones
13:30:14  <Ammler> just trolley buses
13:30:15  <PublicServer> <0DM> i heard yesterday that on the dutch net, a train 5 minutes late at my station, it takes 3 hours for the net to clear it...
13:30:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> Ammler: then my memory fails :D
13:30:35  <Ammler> but it has a narrow gauge to Appenzell
13:30:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> maybe it was somewhere around
13:31:18  <Ammler> hmm, maybe there is one railroad line?
13:31:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont know ... maybe it was a train but ... it was normally on road as a tram
13:32:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> anyways it was amazing :D
13:32:34  <Ammler> V453000: you might be right :-)
13:32:37  <Ammler>
13:32:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
13:32:55  <ODM> i still have to go to switserland again
13:32:56  <Ammler> I was quite often there, but never used it, just buses.
13:32:58  <ODM> but so expensive:O
13:32:58  <V453000> I wasnt anywhere else in Swiss so it is quite probable :)
13:33:25  <ODM> V453000, you were dutch?
13:33:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
13:33:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> WIN
13:33:50  <ODM> yeahyeah rub it in:P
13:33:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
13:34:01  <ODM> so what is it?:)
13:34:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> what?
13:34:16  <ODM> which country?
13:34:24  <Ammler> but still, for me it looks more like the narrow gauge train to the suburban
13:34:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> what are we talking about now?
13:34:26  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Ok
13:34:33  <PublicServer> <Combuster> everything up to transfer 1 is connected
13:34:48  <ODM> i asked if you were dutch:P
13:34:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh so
13:35:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> no I am from Czech Republic
13:35:12  <ODM> aah like SmatZ!
13:35:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> exactly
13:35:19  <ODM> ive been in the train there, that was...interesting
13:35:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> :DDDD
13:35:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh no
13:35:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> Czech trains = the worst thing
13:35:49  <ODM> i had a good laugh
13:35:57  <ODM> where in czech are you? ive been there on holiday alot
13:36:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> I wonder why the CSD has operational trains
13:36:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> in the north ... Liberec
13:36:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> 100 km from Prague
13:36:18  <ODM> aah ive been there
13:36:22  <ODM> by train:P
13:36:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh my god :D
13:36:31  <ODM> you have trams aswell
13:36:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
13:36:41  <ODM> to be honest, wasnt the most exciting place ever, or we mustve missed it
13:36:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
13:37:09  <PublicServer> <Player> transfer 5 done
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13:37:24  <csuke> !dl win32
13:37:25  <PublicServer> csuke:
13:37:28  <ODM> i loved the single wagon thingies you have though
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13:37:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
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13:37:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> ODM: the trains?
13:37:50  <zerpa> !password
13:37:50  <PublicServer> zerpa: proton
13:37:57  <ODM> yeah
13:37:59  <ODM> the red ones
13:38:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> a "can" is a more appropriate name I think :D
13:38:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
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13:38:35  <ODM> very fun:P
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13:40:14  <PublicServer> <Combuster> your trainyard is flawed
13:40:20  <PublicServer> <Combuster> the food trains carry goods
13:40:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
13:40:45  <PublicServer> <0DM> details
13:40:53  <csuke> !password
13:40:53  <PublicServer> csuke: proton
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13:41:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi csuke
13:41:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> havent seen ya in a while :)
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13:43:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> come back soon! :)
13:43:35  <ODM> haha:P
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13:44:25  <V453000> !password
13:44:25  <PublicServer> V453000: llamas
13:44:32  <ODM> you need a wire
13:44:59  <V453000> !password
13:44:59  <PublicServer> V453000: llamas
13:45:03  <V453000> :Z
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13:45:36  <V453000> !password
13:45:36  <PublicServer> V453000: llamas
13:45:46  <V453000> :|
13:45:48  <ODM> its still llamas:P
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13:45:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
13:45:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> ye
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13:50:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> I see some food working already :)))
13:51:01  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> jup :)
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14:04:05  <V453000> !password
14:04:05  <PublicServer> V453000: spongy
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14:04:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok
14:05:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> nice
14:05:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> I built a terminus pickup
14:05:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> without the station exit :D
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14:11:22  <V453000> !password
14:11:22  <PublicServer> V453000: spongy
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14:13:46  <ODM> wut the webcam:P
14:13:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is quite nice :)
14:14:41  <V453000> oh you mean that
14:14:41  <V453000> :)
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14:23:05  <V453000> !password
14:23:05  <PublicServer> V453000: supers
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14:24:17  <Ammler> btw.
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14:24:46  <Ammler> !url <-- here you have a gallery to back in the webcam screens.
14:24:46  <PublicServer> Ammler:
14:25:24  <V453000> fine
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14:25:45  <V453000> nice
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14:28:56  <V453000> I will kill the internet provider
14:29:00  <V453000> !password
14:29:00  <PublicServer> V453000: convex
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14:31:54  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> is the logic train enabled?
14:32:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think the oneTL train from 2cc will do the job
14:32:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> just hope it will be fast enough
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14:34:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> wow
14:34:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> 9000/year only
14:34:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> running cost of turbo bus
14:34:54  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> well, the advantage of the logic train is the infinite acceleration
14:35:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes I know
14:35:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> I meant not the speed but the response time
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14:36:02  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> are the "double" combos somewhere exlained?
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14:36:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> what?
14:36:18  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> explained*
14:36:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> the memory
14:36:23  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> yes
14:36:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> you mean on wiki
14:36:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think not
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14:38:43  <V453000> !password
14:38:43  <PublicServer> V453000: convex
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14:51:21  <V453000> !password
14:51:22  <PublicServer> V453000: babble
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14:54:57  <V453000> I just want to finish this omg
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14:55:53  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> what CL do we use on the main tracks (ML & SL's)? 5?
14:56:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
14:56:03  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> good
14:56:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> when the trains are faster than about 160 kmh, we use the same CL as the TL
14:56:48  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> ok
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15:17:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> done :)
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15:44:22  <Techinica> !password
15:44:22  <PublicServer> Techinica: bobbin
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15:55:22  <PublicServer> Intexon: bobbin
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16:00:53  <PublicServer> V453000: pepped
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16:28:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh my god what a mess
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16:28:24  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> V: where?
16:28:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> transfer 01
16:28:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> someone copied the trains
16:28:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> so they are in a wrong group
16:28:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> plus of course transfer 01 isnt operational yet
16:29:07  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> fix it?
16:29:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> I am already fixing it
16:29:33  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> good :)
16:32:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> who commented that 33% splitter at transfer 02 area?
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16:32:50  <sietse> !ingo
16:32:52  <sietse> !info
16:32:52  <PublicServer> sietse: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'OTTDC PSG#175'  Year Founded: 1950  Money: 414598312  Loan: 0  Value: 466911535  (T:403, R:0, P:7, S:0) unprotected
16:33:07  <PublicServer> <Techinica> me
16:33:20  <PublicServer> <Techinica> only because someone called /MD was asking what is was
16:33:21  <PublicServer> <Techinica> it*
16:33:28  <sietse> !password
16:33:28  <PublicServer> sietse: bunker
16:33:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> there is nothing about this on the wiki I fear
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16:33:40  <PublicServer> <Sietse> hello all
16:33:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
16:33:45  <PublicServer> <Techinica> well, there's a SRNW page atleast
16:33:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is
16:33:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> hmmm
16:33:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> whatever
16:34:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> transfer 01 cleaned
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16:36:53  <lomba> !password
16:36:53  <PublicServer> lomba: bunker
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16:37:48  <Ammler> [17:32] <sietse> !ingo <-- planetmaker isn't around ;-)
16:38:06  <sietse> ?
16:38:28  <Ammler>  do /whois
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16:40:50  <sietse> whahahah
16:41:00  <sietse> awesome typo :)
16:41:12  <V453000> ?
16:41:58  <sietse> ingo is planetmakers name
16:42:06  <V453000> oh
16:42:08  <sietse> and I typed !ingo instead of !info
16:42:16  <V453000> :)
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16:45:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> rofl
16:46:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> numbering layouts of SL stations :D
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16:52:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> the main station area is starting to look nice
16:55:40  <MeisterMarkus> !password
16:55:40  <PublicServer> MeisterMarkus: flails
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16:56:12  <PublicServer> <MeisterMarkus> hi
16:56:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
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16:59:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> off for diner
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17:17:27  <V453000> !password
17:17:27  <PublicServer> V453000: reused
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17:29:33  <Ammler> @wiki Autopilot
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17:29:36  <Ammler> PeterT: ^
17:29:36  <Webster> Autopilot - #openttdcoop Wiki -
17:29:55  <PeterT> I found that, thanks Ammler :D
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17:41:23  <V453000> hi Kenji :)
17:41:37  <PublicServer> <Kenji> hey
17:42:17  <V453000> !password
17:42:17  <PublicServer> V453000: spikes
17:42:34  <V453000> :D your password, spike ^^
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17:44:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> Kenji: can you please take care of the stuff I built on the map? I will be gone for a week from tomorrow
17:44:21  <PublicServer> <Kenji> maybe
17:44:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
17:44:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> just rarely checking it if everything is fine
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17:56:01  <ODM> ellowz
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17:56:31  <sietse> heya
17:56:45  <jondisti> hello
17:56:57  <V453000> back ODM? :)
17:57:15  <ODM> sortof:P
17:57:28  <ODM> technically i never left:P
17:57:44  <jondisti> !password
17:57:44  <PublicServer> jondisti: consul
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17:58:08  <KenjiE20> he's got you there :P
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17:59:04  <ODM> heh
17:59:33  <ODM> just saw some weird programming stuff, like befunge and the underhanded c contest
17:59:36  <ODM> some people are bored:D
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18:01:02  <V453000> :)
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18:02:17  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> wonder who's whining about 3 tile long bridges without reason
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18:03:01  <V453000> jondisti: :D what? where?
18:03:22  <ODM> been there for ages, just remove the signs
18:03:35  <ODM> the bridges are fast enough afaik
18:04:03  <V453000> :)
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18:07:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> am I alone or there are trains of two colours?
18:07:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> I got some trains orange
18:07:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> and some red/grey
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18:08:00  <KenjiE20> sub-colours
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18:08:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
18:08:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> these are the same trains
18:08:31  <Razaekel> !password
18:08:31  <PublicServer> Razaekel: guiles
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18:09:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok now
18:09:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> that was strange :D
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18:10:46  <PublicServer> <0DM> wudup new york.
18:10:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> ??
18:11:16  <PublicServer> <0DM> aka, hi.
18:11:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi then .D
18:11:33  <PublicServer> <0DM> speaking of people with too much time, transfer 02:P
18:11:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> why?
18:12:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is fast and effective solution
18:12:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> imo the best
18:12:17  <Ammler> it is _two_ color company set, so playing around with colors should be part of the game :-)
18:12:20  <PublicServer> <0DM> imo you just killed a fly with a shotgun:p
18:12:26  <Ammler> (except the red 2k lok)
18:13:01  <PublicServer> <0DM> though it is creative^^
18:13:21  <V453000> Ammler: no, I know about the colours and whatever ... but it somehow bugged when I was a spectator and then some trains ignored their subcolours
18:13:29  <V453000> and were coloured just by the company colour
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18:13:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> ODM: well ... maybe :)
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18:14:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> I have done this a few times already so the creativity decreases a bit :p
18:15:38  <KenjiE20> <-- too much time? only sometimes
18:16:05  <ODM> hm?
18:16:12  <V453000> now what is that Kenji? :D
18:16:20  <ODM> is that a real world station layout:P
18:16:30  <KenjiE20> that would be Hitchin recreated according to the signalling layouts
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18:16:54  <V453000> :|
18:17:11  <KenjiE20> yea, pretty much
18:18:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> it would be quite cool if we could recolour the trains by groups
18:18:53  <PublicServer> <0DM> true
18:18:58  <PublicServer> <0DM> useless but cool:p
18:19:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
18:20:00  <Ammler> is2 patch :-)
18:20:30  <V453000> ? you mean like making trains of multiple companies, resulting in something like groups
18:21:03  <KenjiE20> <-- the respective signalling section
18:21:30  <V453000> Kenji: you are insane
18:22:06  <ODM> i dont even understand the signalling thing...
18:22:08  <KenjiE20> no what's insane, is the rest of it's built too
18:22:15  <KenjiE20> right up to KX
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18:30:23  <PublicServer> <0DM> yay hooked up a farm:p
18:30:34  <PublicServer> <0DM> <- parties.
18:30:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
18:31:22  <KenjiE20> fresh sausages :)
18:31:59  <PublicServer> <0DM> woo saucijzenbroodjes
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18:38:05  <LittleBoyRick> !password
18:38:05  <PublicServer> LittleBoyRick: infirm
18:38:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> damn :D building without keyboard is even slower than building on touchpad
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18:40:31  <PublicServer> <0DM> hotkeys are win
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18:40:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> yep
18:40:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> I got very used to them in all strategy games :o
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18:44:02  <PeterT> I love this webcam feature
18:44:05  <PeterT> who made the patch?
18:44:09  <PeterT> was it SmatZ ?
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18:46:07  <Ammler> PeterT:
18:46:24  <Ammler> the openttd patch is quite small :-P
18:47:15  <V453000> would be cool if we could command it to jump to a sign
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18:47:44  <Ammler> yes, I should remember when SmatZ is around ;-)
18:47:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
18:48:01  <Ammler> scrtollto " BBH 01*"
18:48:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> write "beer" and he will be here in a blink of an eye :D
18:48:26  <Ammler> he is offline afaik
18:48:32  <PublicServer> <0DM> pillsner!
18:48:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> waa
18:48:35  <Ammler> beer beer beer
18:48:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah ODM :D
18:48:40  <PublicServer> <0DM> from pilzen:p
18:48:44  <Ammler> yes, he is.
18:48:47  <KenjiE20> lol
18:49:06  <PublicServer> <0DM> wow, all those farms on the westside being connected to an eastside sl:S
18:49:56  <Ammler> oh, and PeterT, credits for the openttd patch goes to #openttd ;-)
18:50:06  <Ammler> Autopilot patch to Fuco
18:50:11  <Ammler> and the rest to be...
18:50:16  <PublicServer> <0DM> since when does a channel hold credits^^
18:50:17  <Ammler> (me)
18:50:52  <Razaekel> !password
18:50:52  <PublicServer> Razaekel: huddle
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18:51:35  <Ammler> ODM: something like How do I enable screenshot on dedicated? --> randomnicks: uncomment blitter in source.list
18:52:11  <ODM> riiight:P
18:52:34  <PeterT> @coopstats
18:52:34  <Webster>
18:52:34  <Ammler> well, if you want to donate, the credits goes to me ;-)
18:52:53  <PublicServer> <0DM> darn swiss, always wanting money:p
18:53:34  <PeterT> so if I'm pissed, the "credits" can go to you?
18:53:39  <PeterT> :-P
18:53:43  <Ammler> that for sure.
18:53:55  <Ammler> those shouldn't go to #openttd :-)
18:54:29  <PeterT> hehe
18:54:36  <PeterT> ok, I'm trying to set up AutoPilot now
18:54:44  <PeterT> where is the SVN repo?
18:55:07  <Ammler> @devzone Autopilot
18:55:08  <PublicServer> <0DM> it's hiding:O
18:56:11  <PeterT> @devzone AutoPilot
18:56:17  <PeterT> Not a valid integer
18:56:42  <Ammler> go to overview on the link I pasted above
18:57:34  <PeterT>
18:58:38  <PeterT> is that it?
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19:02:56  <V453000> !password
19:02:56  <PublicServer> V453000: uncled
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19:09:04  <XeryusTC> !password
19:09:04  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: uncled
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19:09:54  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> wat
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19:09:59  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> cant fund more farms :-/
19:10:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi XeryusTC
19:10:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> Raz: ???
19:10:09  <Ammler> PeterT: I meant that link:
19:10:18  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> exactly what i said
19:10:22  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> it's not on the list
19:10:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> but why
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19:10:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh
19:10:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> needs changing the settings
19:10:38  <PublicServer> <0DM> primaries are turned off
19:10:39  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> farms are primarys
19:10:48  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> stupid game settings
19:11:01  <PeterT> Ammler: How is the AutoPilot scripts repo going?
19:11:09  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> somebody want to change that?
19:11:11  <PeterT> will that go anywhere soon?
19:11:15  <PeterT> I still need to learn tcl
19:11:25  <Ammler> you mean custom scripts?
19:11:35  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> everything's running nice and smoothly
19:11:51  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> it's time to dump a dozen or so more farms on the map and break stuff
19:11:54  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> :-P
19:11:59  <Ammler>
19:12:32  <ODM> !rcon patch raw_industry_construction 2
19:12:34  <Ammler> hmm, might need update :-)
19:13:04  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> alright, 1 dozen farms prospected
19:13:05  <PublicServer> <MDGrein> trainlimit
19:13:13  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> only 500 trains O.o
19:13:20  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> this map definitely needs breaking
19:13:31  <PeterT> problem with wiki:
19:13:31  <PeterT> Warning: file_exists() [function.file-exists]: open_basedir restriction in effect. File(/usr/bin/diff3) is not within the allowed path(s): (/var/www/vhosts/ in /var/www/vhosts/ on line 1336
19:13:42  <PeterT> Ammler: The requested URL /public/scripts/ was not found on this server.
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19:14:06  <Ammler> PeterT: yes, updated it, requery
19:14:16  <PublicServer> <0DM> how many did you add?
19:14:18  <PeterT> ok thanks :-)
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19:14:20  <Ammler> now all the scripts are there, hope there is no sensitive data
19:14:26  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> 12
19:14:43  <Ammler> (else please tell me before you try them ;-)
19:14:50  <XeryusTC> !rcon patch max_trains 760
19:15:15  <PublicServer> <0DM> 760? wut:P
19:15:34  <PeterT> XeryusTC: I think !trains 760 is easier
19:15:46  <XeryusTC> hmm, probably :P
19:15:55  <XeryusTC> i always forget those xD
19:15:57  <Ammler> PeterT: some of those scripts are just aliases, but you won't see that over http
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19:16:35  <kratt> !password
19:16:35  <PublicServer> kratt: divers
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19:17:13  <Ammler> PeterT: if you find bugs or such, please feel free to report those to the DevZone, might also be useful for Avignon.
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19:17:21  <PeterT> ok, I will
19:17:31  <PeterT> but I need to get it working on Windozes first :-)
19:17:40  <Ammler> (and patches for that, indeed) :-)
19:17:48  <PeterT> I don't know anything about tcl yet
19:18:00  <PeterT> What is the callback for saying something privately to a person who just joined?
19:18:06  <Ammler> no need, me neither and made most of those scripts ;-)
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19:19:11  <Ammler> PeterT: just check the callbacks...
19:19:18  <Ammler> should be quite self explaining...
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19:19:26  <PeterT> sure thing
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19:20:34  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh cool :P
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19:20:46  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> there's 2 groups of trains going to transfer 5 :o
19:20:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol
19:21:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> there was even worse mess before
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19:21:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> someone grouped ALL food trains to group for transfer 05
19:21:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> even better: some of those delivered food to transfer 01
19:21:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> (which isnt operational yet)
19:21:43  <ODM> maybe theyre hungry at transfer 05?
19:21:57  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm, nice :o
19:22:41  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> now it's 22 vehicles :o
19:22:46  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> one group :P
19:23:05  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and it seems that those trains are all too short ofcourse xD
19:23:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> np
19:23:26  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, they're not :o
19:23:26  <ODM> dont panic!:P
19:23:41  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> stupid not half tile wagon lengths :P
19:24:00  <ODM> yup
19:24:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> hehe
19:24:07  <ODM> to be fair, too short is better than too long
19:26:09  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> true
19:26:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> XeryusTC: could you please explain me the issue at the SLH01? I can not say I completely own the twoway x oneway signal issues
19:26:14  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> long loading times sucks
19:26:52  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> red two ways are seen as end of line by YAPF if they're the first signal it comes across
19:27:01  <Ammler> I love 2way <-> 1way signal issues :-)
19:27:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> only red?
19:27:03  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> so yapf wont look further ahead on that path
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19:27:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> interesting
19:27:22  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> in this case, it can lead to balancing issues with prios and double bridges
19:27:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> okok :)
19:27:29  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> basically, it's treated as EOL
19:27:39  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> dont ask me what the exact issua was, i forgot
19:27:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> Raz: yeah I heard about that already :)
19:27:46  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> which can help in sorting trains
19:28:03  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but the EOL of red two ways can lead to problems, or be put to proper use in other situations
19:28:18  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> i like them for splitters
19:28:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok
19:28:23  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> like for crossing bridges
19:28:45  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00031782:
19:28:45  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> two ways are very useful if the penalty for red one ways isnt high enough :P
19:28:45  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> ensures that they go onto the open path, or stops at the entrance presig if there are no open paths
19:28:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> kk
19:29:03  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but it isnt needed in most cases anymore, so you should use one ways on choosers
19:29:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> thx
19:29:06  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> if you hae a red oneway exit presig, trains will stop inside the block instead of at the entrance
19:29:20  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> which can be bad
19:29:28  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> (I personally add the exception on station entries, then I almost always use two ways)
19:29:46  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> but 2way should only be used by "pros" as it hides other issues ;-)
19:31:07  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> nice red trains :-)
19:31:19  <V453000> obsessed Ammler :D
19:31:27  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> :-D
19:31:29  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> Amm1er: you communist you :P
19:31:57  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> you say "communist" to a swiss, thanks :-P
19:32:11  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh sorry, you nazi :P
19:32:25  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> pacifist nazi that is :P
19:33:32  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> Swiss is able to make money with data others just hand out ;-)
19:34:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> and they eat chocolate all the time :P
19:35:23  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> and then, they wonder about criminalism, if the pay millions to thiefs
19:35:38  <PeterT> Ammler, what do I download and install?
19:35:44  <PeterT>
19:35:45  <Webster> Title: Tcl Developer Site (at
19:35:47  <PeterT> that ^?
19:35:50  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> bastards
19:35:53  <PeterT> or that >
19:35:54  <Webster> Title: Expect - Expect - Home Page (at
19:36:08  <Ammler> I would check ActiveTCL or something like that
19:36:27  <Ammler>
19:36:28  <Webster> Title: ActiveTCL, Download Tcl for Windows, Mac, Linux, AIX, HP-UX & Solaris (at
19:36:36  <PeterT> ok
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19:37:41  <PeterT> Weird, the Wiki has tons of really helpful information, but nothing on setting up AutoPilot
19:37:49  <PeterT> getting needed packages and such
19:38:19  <Ammler> well, I just need "zypper tcl expect tcllib tclx" and I am done
19:38:31  <Ammler> in*
19:38:32  <PeterT> zypper?
19:38:40  <PeterT> omg, I neeed all that???
19:38:47  <Ammler> suse version of apt-get
19:39:00  <PeterT> oh
19:39:21  <Ammler> I guess, activetcl has all the tcl things
19:39:29  <PeterT> ok
19:39:34  <Ammler> so you should be fine with that and expect
19:39:34  <subz> Who set up the server and made the bot btw!
19:39:54  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> wow
19:39:58  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> failstation
19:40:02  <PeterT> Does TCL have to be in a place without spaces?
19:40:05  <PeterT> like C:\TCL?
19:40:08  <PeterT> I hate locations like that
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19:40:26  <Ammler> PeterT: don't ask me such specific windows questions...
19:40:31  <PeterT> Ok
19:40:36  <Xant> hi there
19:40:41  <Ammler> it would be nice, if we could ask you that :-P
19:42:05  <PeterT> Ammler: And I need the expect package?
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19:44:05  <Techinica> !password
19:44:05  <PublicServer> Techinica: brooms
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19:44:26  <Ammler> PeterT: expect is essential, yes.
19:44:44  <Ammler> Autopilot is quite useless without.
19:44:59  <PeterT> which port?
19:45:00  <Webster> Title: Expect - Expect - Home Page (at
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19:46:39  <PeterT> Ammler?
19:47:18  <Ammler> PeterT: didn't I already recommend Active?
19:47:45  <PeterT> Yeah, but the link goes to the main site...and from there I am completely lost
19:47:47  <Ammler> [20:36] <Ammler> I would check ActiveTCL or something like that <-- yes, I did :-)
19:50:03  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> safe-joiner is damn cool
19:50:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah
19:50:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> damn cool
19:50:17  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> sorry :-P
19:50:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> what?
19:50:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> I just agreed with that
19:50:30  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> the "damn"
19:50:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
19:50:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> I am completely not-sensitive to words
19:51:22  <Ammler> XeryusTC: did you see it?
19:51:26  <PublicServer> *** Intexon has left the game (leaving)
19:51:41  <XeryusTC> what?
19:51:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> fail-safe joiner
19:51:52  <Ammler> how can we play 3 years openttd without such an easy implentation?
19:51:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> by Osai
19:52:13  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> we dont use SML that much, that's why
19:52:17  <PeterT> Strange, I just installed this (, and it says this: can't find package Expect
19:52:17  <PeterT>     while executing
19:52:17  <PeterT> "package require Expect"
19:52:17  <PeterT>     (file "./autopilot.tcl" line 23)
19:52:18  <Webster> Title: ActiveTcl Downloads (at
19:52:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is not SML
19:52:23  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> oh
19:52:24  <PublicServer> *** Amm1er has left the game (connection lost)
19:52:28  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> basic joiner?
19:52:29  <Ammler> PeterT: autsch
19:52:40  <PublicServer> <Sietse> could be used in SML aswell I think
19:52:45  <Ammler> please use nopaste services
19:52:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes of course
19:52:51  <PeterT> ouch?
19:52:57  <PeterT> Oh, right...
19:53:08  <PublicServer> <Sietse> with a penalty in the straight path
19:53:15  <PeterT> so, what could've happened?
19:53:23  <Ammler> did you install expect?
19:54:09  <PublicServer> <Sietse> it works real nice
19:54:15  <PeterT> I don't know, is DejaGNU == Expect?
19:54:21  <PublicServer> <Sietse> no need for a train being stuck in a waiting space
19:54:36  <Ammler> I would guess, they call the package something with "expect"?
19:55:07  <PeterT> the first link (that is here:, goes to the main site of, which doesn't help. the second link is dead. the third link goes to DejaGNU, which doesn't sound like the package expect at all
19:55:08  <Webster> Title: Expect - Expect - Home Page (at
19:55:53  <Ammler> PeterT:
19:55:54  <Webster> Title: Where is Expect? | ActiveState Community Site (at
19:58:49  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00030966:
20:00:28  <PublicServer> * Razaekel gnashes teeth
20:00:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> gnashes?
20:00:43  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> it's a pain to keep up with the expansion of the farms
20:00:48  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> need to keep cloning trains
20:00:49  * PeterT gnashes Razaekel 
20:00:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> hmmm
20:00:55  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> :-P
20:01:11  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> the best network imo for this sort of this was the SRNW
20:01:23  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> sort of thing*
20:01:44  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> what the bloody hell is that station
20:01:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think that doesnt matter
20:01:50  <PublicServer> *** Sietse has joined company #1
20:02:24  <PublicServer> <Techinica> lol.. transfer 6 :)
20:02:27  <PublicServer> <Sietse> over 600 trains!
20:02:29  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> tranfer 06 = wtf?
20:02:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> maze
20:02:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> will work
20:02:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> fear not
20:02:49  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> i have no doubt it will
20:02:53  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> but still
20:02:55  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> O.o
20:03:07  * PeterT restarts
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20:03:14  <PublicServer> <Techinica> looks.. interesting :)
20:03:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> got also a portrait there :P :D
20:03:42  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> it's too bad you cant restrict the spawning of industries on a map
20:03:54  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> ie, only certain types, or even none at all
20:04:18  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> so no industries spawn, ever, for something like a pax game
20:04:34  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> or only farms, with the FPP/factory placed by hand
20:04:38  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> etc
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20:11:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> damn
20:11:23  <PublicServer> <Techinica> rofl
20:11:27  <PublicServer> <Sietse> fail :)
20:11:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> trees didnt work :|
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20:18:54  <Ammler> !players
20:18:56  <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 423 (Orange) is Razaekel, in company 1 (OTTDC PSG#175)
20:18:56  <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 425 (Orange) is V453000, in company 1 (OTTDC PSG#175)
20:18:56  <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 335 (Orange) is MDGrein, in company 1 (OTTDC PSG#175)
20:18:56  <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 403 (Orange) is Sietse, in company 1 (OTTDC PSG#175)
20:18:56  <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 433 (Orange) is Techinica, in company 1 (OTTDC PSG#175)
20:19:05  <Ammler> update the server for the new minimap features?
20:19:14  <PeterT> /msg PublicServer !players
20:19:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> minimap?
20:19:20  <PeterT> zoom-out
20:19:32  <PeterT> feature is in trunk, that's why would *would* update
20:19:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> just wait 10 minutes pls
20:19:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will finish this thing
20:19:38  <PeterT> yay Ammler!
20:19:41  <Ammler> PeterT: I highlighted on purpose :-P
20:22:13  <Ammler> conflicts anyway
20:22:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> with what?
20:23:04  <Intexon> !password
20:23:04  <PublicServer> Intexon: repeal
20:23:16  <PublicServer> *** Intexon joined the game
20:25:23  <Ammler> <-- why does that conflict?
20:26:38  <^Spike^> eh...
20:26:48  <^Spike^> cause... eh... you know...
20:26:49  <^Spike^> that..
20:28:53  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0000C264:
20:29:30  <^Spike^> Ammler will it give problems if you force it? :)
20:30:21  <Ammler> force? how?
20:30:56  <^Spike^> good point.. thought that was possible
20:32:09  <Ammler> ah
20:32:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> News: V453000 Celebrates! Another insane thing done.
20:32:19  <Ammler> magic bulldozer is the issue
20:32:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> /news : off
20:32:27  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> that's nuts
20:32:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
20:32:44  <Ammler> server is compling...
20:32:51  <^Spike^> ah... :)
20:33:21  <Ammler> I need to apply the bulldozer after the logging patch
20:34:18  <Ammler> server isn't compling... ;-)
20:34:31  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> nice flipflops v453
20:34:44  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> you have a 2/3rd splitter than then a half splitter
20:34:45  <^Spike^> raz, just v453?
20:34:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> thanks :) I like the first one
20:35:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> spike: I dont care :) combuster calls me Vbignum :D I like  that
20:35:16  <Ammler> I guess, we wait for SmatZyPatchy
20:35:31  <PublicServer> *** tneo joined the game
20:35:32  <^Spike^> just shake him... maybe he wakes up..
20:35:33  <^Spike^> :)
20:35:34  <PublicServer> <tneo> hello
20:35:40  <Ammler> beer beer beer
20:35:42  <Razaekel> i should just call him V4
20:35:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi theo
20:35:47  <Ammler> no, still
20:36:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> V4 :D
20:36:03  <Ammler> heya tneo, zypper up worked?
20:36:30  * ^Spike^ thinks he should install eclipse.. again...
20:36:34  <PublicServer> <tneo> dunno, used the start script :-)
20:36:39  <Ammler> oh
20:36:55  <Ammler> yes, more comfort there :-)
20:37:07  <Ammler> and nore root required
20:37:29  <PublicServer> <tneo> I appreciate all your efforts for the suse pack though :-D
20:37:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> *happy*
20:37:45  <PublicServer> <tneo> we should advertise that on ?
20:38:18  <^Spike^> hmm... eclipse has no 64bit win version :(
20:38:18  <Ammler> hmm
20:38:40  <Ammler> tneo, there are already "official" suse packages
20:39:01  <PublicServer> <Sietse> V453000 how does that splitter work?
20:39:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is quite simple
20:39:11  <PublicServer> <Sietse> how does it remember the last path taken?
20:39:15  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> simple?
20:39:18  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> phhhhhh
20:39:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes simple :)
20:39:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> there is a memory
20:39:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> the two twoway combo signals
20:39:43  <PublicServer> <tneo> hmm pressing A didn't pop up rail construction :-(
20:39:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> how come, tneo?
20:40:02  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> i've had that problem too
20:40:04  <PublicServer> <tneo> dunno
20:40:05  <PublicServer> <tneo> weird
20:40:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> :|
20:40:12  <PublicServer> <tneo> TL = 3 ?
20:40:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> that depends
20:40:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> read the plan :)
20:40:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> the primaries got TL 5
20:40:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> food feeders TL 3
20:40:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> a
20:40:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> and the transferer food trains TL 2
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20:41:44  <ziza> !password
20:41:44  <PublicServer> ziza: bummer
20:42:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> Sietse: want some help?
20:42:30  <PublicServer> *** ZiZa joined the game
20:42:32  <PublicServer> <Sietse> I just lack logic skills :)
20:42:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> dunno ... I think this is simple
20:43:02  <PublicServer> <Sietse> I see that the combo (3 in a row) count everytime
20:43:11  <PublicServer> <Sietse> a time pass by
20:43:25  <PublicServer> <Sietse> a  train*
20:43:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> hm? :D
20:43:55  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00012EF4:
20:44:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> see this:
20:44:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> there is a memory
20:44:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> remembers that a train passed there
20:44:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> and on the other line there is a memory eraser
20:44:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> which makes the memory green again
20:44:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> at the !example 50-50
20:45:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> therefore ... the lines block themselves after usage but also unlock each other
20:45:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> resulting in flip flop :)
20:47:11  <PublicServer> <Sietse> huh?
20:47:18  <PublicServer> <Sietse> that 50-50 is doing what?
20:47:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> what is unclear
20:47:26  <PublicServer> <Sietse> I see only one line
20:47:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> well that is the splitter
20:47:43  <PublicServer> <Sietse> ok
20:47:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> the whole mechanism not just the one line near the sign
20:50:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> already got it? :)
20:50:10  <PublicServer> <Sietse> I think so
20:50:19  <PublicServer> <Sietse> but in this case there are 2 memories
20:50:24  <PublicServer> <Sietse> isn't that overkill?
20:50:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
20:50:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is the point
20:50:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> it flipflops each third
20:51:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> so there are two needed to erase the memory
20:51:19  <PublicServer> <Sietse> but there are only 2 states needed
20:51:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> 2 states, yes
20:51:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> but there are needed two trains to pass THEN one can split
20:51:51  <PublicServer> <Sietse> so I would say, memory green or red
20:52:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> there
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20:52:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> 1/3 trains go there
20:52:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> not 1/2
20:52:09  <PublicServer> <Sietse> ok
20:52:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> see how they go
20:52:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> first they fill memory A, then memory B
20:52:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> if both A and B are red, then one splits
20:52:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> which makes it 1/3
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20:53:02  <PublicServer> <Sietse> was looking at the 50-50 :)
20:53:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
20:53:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> but there is only one memory
20:53:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> it counts for each line
20:53:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> each line must be blocked when the other is opened
20:54:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> it actually would work with just one ... but this is more precise
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20:55:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> the 1/3 works that way
20:55:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> the path to "SL" never blocks
20:55:29  <PublicServer> <Sietse> ok
20:55:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> they only dont like it because of the penalties
20:55:51  <PublicServer> <Sietse> but why they prefer the other path?
20:55:55  <PublicServer> <Sietse> shortest?
20:55:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
20:56:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> there are the PBS signals
20:56:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> these make them not-like that track
20:56:18  <PublicServer> <Sietse> ok
20:56:23  <PublicServer> <Sietse> penalties further up
20:56:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> so if they can, they use the split
20:57:00  <PublicServer> <Sietse> that's easy, that logic to the contrary not :)
20:57:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
20:57:48  <PublicServer> <Sietse> plus I don't like it because it is ruining vision :)
20:57:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> vision?
20:58:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> you mean it is ugly
20:58:06  <PublicServer> <Sietse> but the effect is nice sometimes ;)
20:58:09  <PublicServer> <Sietse> yep
20:58:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> I love the look at it
20:58:21  <PublicServer> <Sietse> it looks worse than odd :)
20:58:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> especially when it works ^^
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20:59:03  <PublicServer> <Sietse> that maze station is fun :)
20:59:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
20:59:36  <PublicServer> <Sietse> I mean layout #665 :)
20:59:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
20:59:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> #666 is HELL. You dontn want to see
21:00:18  <PublicServer> <Sietse> np... hell does not exist imo :)
21:00:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> but a station called HELL does :D
21:00:45  <PublicServer> <Sietse> that might be scary yes :)
21:01:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)))
21:03:40  <PublicServer> <Sietse> only 43% of food production transported....
21:03:55  <PublicServer> <Sietse> 52 now
21:04:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> I wouldnt try to transport high %
21:04:08  <PublicServer> <Sietse> why not?
21:04:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> it could make the pickup jam when there would be less food one month
21:04:41  <PublicServer> <Sietse> the idea is to stress the network right?
21:04:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
21:05:01  <PublicServer> <Sietse> so why not doing that and find solutions if we encounter issues...
21:05:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> the solution might be a complete rework
21:05:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> and we dont want that, do we
21:05:37  <PublicServer> <Sietse> you might? :)
21:05:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> ?
21:06:16  <PublicServer> <Sietse> pickup also still got lots of capacity left
21:06:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
21:06:38  <PublicServer> <Sietse> 20 extra trains won't harm it imo
21:06:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> I added
21:06:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> now
21:07:04  <PublicServer> <Sietse> many?
21:07:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> about 20
21:07:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> shouldnt be even significant for the network
21:07:23  <PublicServer> <Sietse> fast :)
21:07:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> train limit :<
21:07:46  <PublicServer> <Sietse> u got a shortcut for creating trains that fast?
21:08:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> ctrl + clone isnt that unusal
21:08:20  <PublicServer> <Sietse> it is slow :)
21:08:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
21:08:35  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> clone one from the map, then clone in depot
21:08:38  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> very fast
21:08:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> yep
21:09:23  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> need to bump up the train limit
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21:13:03  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> huh
21:13:12  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> the trains have a specific destination station
21:13:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> ?
21:13:27  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> food trains
21:13:30  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> from FPP
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21:13:40  <V453000> yes
21:13:45  <V453000> that is the best way probably
21:13:53  <V453000> !password
21:13:53  <PublicServer> V453000: seller
21:13:59  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0000E053:
21:14:16  <V453000> !password
21:14:16  <PublicServer> V453000: rodeos
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21:19:25  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> heh
21:19:29  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> i noticed something
21:19:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> ? that I am a reatard?
21:19:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
21:19:53  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> at the !input lines sign, there are 4 numbered tracks
21:20:06  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> track 4 only comes from  transfer 05
21:20:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes I know
21:20:10  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> and goes to transfer 05
21:20:26  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> but it has the option to go west at the split
21:20:47  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> the trains from transfer 05 dont go on any other lines
21:20:58  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> so, the split could be simplified
21:21:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> hmmm
21:21:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> lets just keep it as it is
21:21:26  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> the only issue with that is if it overloads
21:21:35  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> cause then the trains on line 4 go to line 1
21:21:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
21:21:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> but the split is from all lines for sure so np
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21:31:37  <V453000> !password
21:31:37  <PublicServer> V453000: devour
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21:32:57  <PublicServer> <Sietse> vehicle limit :)
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21:38:18  <V453000> !assword
21:38:22  <V453000> !password
21:38:22  <PublicServer> V453000: devour
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21:40:38  <PeterT> V453000 devours his !assword
21:40:50  <V453000> :| :D
21:41:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> my assword is to be kissed, not to be devoured :P
21:43:31  <ODM> by your powers combined, he is captain assword?
21:43:47  <V453000> what? :D
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21:45:02  <Qanael> !password
21:45:02  <PublicServer> Qanael: bathes
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21:45:39  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Hi guys
21:45:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
21:46:01  <PublicServer> <Qanael> wtf @ transfer 06
21:46:10  <Watson> !password
21:46:10  <PublicServer> Watson: bathes
21:46:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> fun
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21:52:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> 4???
21:53:06  <PublicServer> <Qanael> For the transfer trains
21:53:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> there is not TL at the whole map
21:53:26  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Oh 3 sorry
21:53:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> not TL4
21:53:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> kk :)
21:53:40  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Counted wrong :)
21:53:59  <PublicServer> <Qanael> These food trains are 7 wagons though?
21:54:06  <PublicServer> <Qanael> The ones at FFP pickup
21:54:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> just that someone started building the food town delivery trains for TL 4
21:54:14  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Oh
21:54:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes they are
21:54:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> the wagons are smaller
21:54:26  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Interesting
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21:56:17  <V453000> ok I am going to search for some f00d here, have a shower and I will be back later
21:56:18  <V453000> cya
21:56:24  <PublicServer> <Qanael> See ya V
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22:18:12  <V453000> I see nothing happened during the last 18 minutes I was away o_O
22:18:23  <V453000> !password
22:18:23  <PublicServer> V453000: sieges
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22:19:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> the TL is 2 ... read signs
22:19:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> at the transfer 04
22:19:48  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Ohh right
22:19:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
22:19:56  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Forgot town trains were small
22:19:59  <PublicServer> <Qanael> That helps a lot lol
22:20:03  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I was gonna have to start using TF soon
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22:23:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> Qanael: see this:
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22:23:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> that will prevent making the gap
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22:24:06  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Ah, ok
22:24:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> it doesnt matter much ... but it iw nice to have it done properly ;)
22:24:24  <subz> is broke :[
22:24:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> also helps you so you can shorten the bridge
22:24:34  <subz> and my autopilot seems to be very rude to me
22:24:50  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Well, I like that I can avoid climbs completely on the bridge
22:24:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> and make the -_   -> --
22:24:57  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Since it goes from raised to raised
22:25:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> climbs dont matter at all
22:25:24  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Ah ok
22:25:39  <Intexon> !password
22:25:39  <PublicServer> Intexon: sieges
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22:25:58  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Is that ok?
22:26:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> improvement:
22:26:20  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Oh right
22:26:21  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Thanks
22:26:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
22:26:36  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Looks much neater now
22:26:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> now signalling :)
22:26:47  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Yeah
22:26:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> and what about this:
22:27:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> that will make the signalling simplier
22:27:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> you can move the PBS to the other split
22:27:20  <PublicServer> <Qanael> True
22:27:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
22:27:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> hope I dont annoy you with endless upgrades :p
22:27:46  <PublicServer> <Qanael> No, that's good, I'm still learning
22:28:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> and add a PBS in from of each of the double-platform :)
22:28:35  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Do I need more PBS at the crosses near the station?
22:28:38  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Yeah
22:28:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> you actually dont
22:28:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> the very first one would suffice
22:28:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> but this ensures some waiting space
22:29:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> which is better
22:29:03  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Yeah
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22:29:11  <PublicServer> <Qanael> It has pretty long entrances so it can have some buffer
22:29:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> also: you cold add this signal:
22:29:27  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Alright
22:29:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> that will make it even faster
22:29:47  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Hmm
22:29:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> the buffer keeps the size but a new train can be released tehre sooner
22:29:55  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I don't think transfer 4 goes to any other towns does it?
22:30:06  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Oh yeah it does
22:30:21  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Poor little Bruntwood lol
22:30:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
22:31:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> haha I forgot Plinningpool
22:31:22  <PublicServer> <Qanael> lol
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22:31:30  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Right next to the ML and disconnected from the world
22:31:34  <V453000> !password
22:31:34  <PublicServer> V453000: calico
22:31:45  <V453000> that is quite common :)
22:31:51  <V453000> mines near the ML often are unserved
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22:34:51  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Not much room at Bruntwood
22:34:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> np
22:34:59  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I think I'll need just a bit of TF for the station
22:35:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont think so :)
22:35:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> ;)
22:35:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> carry on
22:35:36  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Hehe
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22:36:59  <PublicServer> <Sietse> stlil train limit...
22:37:02  <LittleBoyRick> !password
22:37:03  <PublicServer> LittleBoyRick: calico
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22:37:29  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Hmm...
22:37:35  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I still need 2 lines don't I?
22:37:44  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Unless we had just 1 train
22:37:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> make it roro
22:38:03  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Oh
22:38:06  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Good thinking
22:38:07  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Haha
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22:42:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> some evil CL there :)
22:42:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> it doesnt matter at all though
22:42:58  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Doesn't really matter for S bends does it?
22:43:16  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Ohh
22:43:19  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Easy to fix
22:43:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh there is even space for it :D
22:43:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok np
22:44:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> but that sbend northeast of bruntwood will slow
22:44:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> also easy to fix ;)
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22:44:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> just straigten the curve
22:44:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
22:44:25  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Yeah
22:44:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok now is everything fine
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22:45:38  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Seems ready
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22:46:00  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I love building winding mountain rails without TF
22:46:03  <PublicServer> <Qanael> They're the most fun
22:46:03  <Watson> !password
22:46:03  <PublicServer> Watson: pitted
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22:46:38  <V453000> :)
22:46:39  <V453000> yeah
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22:47:08  <PublicServer> <Qanael> There's another town for 04
22:47:11  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Carfingfield
22:47:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
22:47:28  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Too far?
22:47:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> that doesnt accept food for town growth
22:47:33  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Ohh
22:47:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> it isnt above snow line
22:47:42  <PublicServer> <Qanael> kk
22:47:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> see !here
22:48:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> you can see there the signalling gaps
22:48:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> made by the autocomplete-feature
22:48:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> you have to check after it
22:48:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> so it is wise to add signals: here
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22:48:55  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Oh yeah, for the tunnels and junctions
22:48:58  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I always forget
22:49:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> quite important when you build somewhere where it would matter :)
22:50:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> I also often fix the curves after the autosignalling
22:50:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> because sometimes it leaves 1,5 tile gaps
22:50:35  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Ah, ok
22:50:38  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Hmm
22:50:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> and curves are issue overall so it is wise to fix it :)
22:50:48  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I think Bruntwood doesn't take food :|
22:50:57  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Oh yes it does
22:50:58  <PublicServer> <Qanael> nvm
22:51:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> it does :)
22:51:09  <PublicServer> <Qanael> How come the station only takes passengers though?
22:51:12  <PeterT> I have successfully ported AutoPilot to Windows!!!!
22:51:13  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Needs more catchment?
22:51:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
22:51:29  <PublicServer> <Qanael> PeterT: Nice
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22:52:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> now it accepts food
22:52:03  <PublicServer> <Qanael> There we go
22:52:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> right :) last thing: sign your work ;)
22:52:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> we will have to wait for the train limit raise for now :<
22:52:59  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Yeah
22:53:11  <KenjiE20> !info
22:53:11  <PublicServer> KenjiE20: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'OTTDC PSG#175'  Year Founded: 1950  Money: 930210091  Loan: 0  Value: 971699426  (T:760, R:0, P:7, S:0) unprotected
22:53:16  <KenjiE20> !trains 850
22:53:16  <PublicServer> *** KenjiE20 has set max_trains to 850
22:53:17  <V453000> :D
22:53:19  <V453000> thanks Kenji
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22:53:30  <KenjiE20> *fwoosh*
22:53:40  <V453000> :)
22:53:46  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Woot, thanks!
22:54:30  <PeterT> KenjiE20: I got autopilot working on Windoze!
22:55:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> I created train groups for you
22:55:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> and will send some food there from the FPP, ok?
22:56:05  <Qanael> Alright, cool
22:56:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> on their way
22:56:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> now decide how you want to treat the TL2 train orders :)
22:56:50  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I'll put an injection depot at T04
22:57:04  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Maybe a few dedicated trains for each town?
22:57:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure, do :)
22:57:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
22:57:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> you can not make them go to the Transfer from there
22:57:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> what about "depot here?"
22:58:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> ;)
22:58:30  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Oh yeah, cause transfer is first
22:58:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> well it doesnt have to be but it is nicer that way :)
22:59:02  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Depot aka secret mountaintop observation post
22:59:14  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00015A38:
22:59:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> also would be a good idea to make it below the hill
22:59:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> as now the trains will join slowly ;)
22:59:56  <PublicServer> <Qanael> How come?
23:00:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> in depot it goes 63 kmh
23:00:51  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Ah, so move it and use a longer joining track?
23:01:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> also a solution :)
23:01:22  <PublicServer> <Qanael> That works
23:01:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure
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23:01:42  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Using the little swiss locomotive for town trains right?
23:01:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> yep
23:01:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> first build one
23:02:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> then put it into the right group
23:02:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> then copy shared orders
23:02:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> well and add some orders after building it :p
23:02:56  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I know :P
23:03:03  <Ammler> what nice screens with all those 2k loks :-D
23:03:24  <V453000> Ammler obsessed ++ ?
23:03:25  <V453000> :D
23:03:41  <PublicServer> <Qanael> How many trains per town do you think would be good?
23:03:53  <V453000> that changes
23:04:07  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Maybe 3 for now?
23:04:15  <V453000> will be needed much hore
23:04:21  <V453000> and the farther town should have more
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23:04:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> than the closer one
23:04:44  <Qanael> !password
23:04:44  <PublicServer> Qanael: crofts
23:04:55  <Qanael> Alright
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23:05:05  <PeterT> KenjiE20: Do me a favor?
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23:05:31  <PeterT> I want to write a guide for AutoPilot on Windows, can I just pick a random page, then you can move the page to the appropriate place?
23:05:55  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I'll do 6 for the closer town and 10 for the other
23:05:58  <PublicServer> <Qanael> That sound ok?
23:06:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok
23:06:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> you could also make the amount equal for both towns if you wanted to support the bigger town more :p so there wouldnt be fatkins at Bruntwood :D
23:06:46  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Just release them all at once or do it gradually?
23:06:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> all
23:07:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> it will regulate itself in time
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23:07:09  <PublicServer> <Qanael> ok, here goes
23:07:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> when they get all the food from the transfer
23:07:13  <Ammler> PeterT: use
23:07:33  <PeterT> Ok
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23:09:02  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I just realized the loop for bruntwood is left hand drive >.>
23:09:05  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Oh well
23:09:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> doesnt matter
23:09:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> I also got that in my transfer 02
23:10:56  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Seems to be working just fine
23:11:25  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I think we need more FPP trains though
23:11:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> coming
23:11:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> already
23:14:15  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0003158B:
23:15:33  <stillunknown> Do you guys/girls ever play with new industries?
23:15:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
23:15:51  <KenjiE20> ^
23:16:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> but quite rarely
23:16:26  <Ammler> @wiki ECS
23:16:29  <Webster> ECS - #openttdcoop Wiki -
23:16:33  <KenjiE20> psg134/135 and PZ... erm 10?
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23:16:53  <V453000> !password
23:16:53  <PublicServer> V453000: bagels
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23:16:56  <V453000> PZ9
23:17:12  <V453000> PZ 09 is FIRS
23:17:15  <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game
23:17:38  <KenjiE20> yes, ty
23:17:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> ;)
23:18:36  <V453000> I am looking forward to the final FIRS :) the nightlies are nice but the full wil rock
23:19:03  <stillunknown> FIRS is better/very different than ECS?
23:19:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> very different
23:19:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> and I personally like it much more
23:19:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> but that depends
23:19:40  <stillunknown> ECS gives you a challenge to get started
23:19:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> quite
23:20:05  <stillunknown> AIs seem to die every time in my limited experience
23:20:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> no idea
23:20:41  <stillunknown> i had this hope AIs would keep some of the industries alive :-)
23:20:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> hmmm
23:20:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> good idea
23:21:10  <Ammler> stillunknown: yeah, ECS is hard for humans
23:21:14  <stillunknown> but they don't start doing anything sensible
23:21:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> even though not operational :)
23:21:19  <Ammler> don't think a AI can handle that
23:21:23  <stillunknown> until i made the industries sustainable
23:21:59  <stillunknown> so how do you guys look at path based signals?
23:22:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> I like the ECS graphics ... or at least most of them ... but the way how it works seems needlessly complicated to me
23:22:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> how do we look at them?
23:22:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> with both eyes :P
23:22:22  <Ammler> from front
23:22:27  <stillunknown> do you like them, hate them, etc
23:22:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> no reason why to hate them
23:22:36  <Ammler> yes, all specially etc.
23:22:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> but the thing you mean probably is for us "ghetto" style
23:23:01  <Ammler> V453000: no piros
23:23:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
23:23:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> but everything has a use :)
23:23:36  <Ammler> well, not a reason to hate those
23:23:44  <stillunknown> i've been checking how to build a network in tight spaces
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23:24:09  <V453000> in tight spaces they may be useful
23:24:18  <V453000> but can drastically reduce efficiency
23:24:18  <Ammler> V453000: we might be the only players on the whole OpenTTD world, who combine block and path signals.
23:24:39  <V453000> Ammler: for example I use them at the overflows
23:24:55  <V453000> Ammler: yes we probably are :)
23:25:00  <stillunknown> i never get why people would use pathsignals outside stations, junctions, etc
23:25:24  <Ammler> stillunknown: why not? doesn't hurt
23:25:25  <V453000> Ammler: but also I think we are the ones who decide if it can be said if it has some use, or if it is useless
23:25:38  <Ammler> V453000: hehe
23:25:44  <V453000> !password
23:25:44  <PublicServer> V453000: bagels
23:25:55  <KenjiE20> "People are dumb panicky animals, and you know it"
23:26:01  <V453000> :D
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23:26:15  <stillunknown> Ammler: matter of habit i guess
23:27:07  <stillunknown> also, do you always update all trains at the same time?
23:27:16  <stillunknown> to avoid speed differences
23:27:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> mostly we use the best trains from the beginning
23:27:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> as we start buying the trains in a late date
23:27:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> we build the complete network first
23:27:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> then we buy trains
23:27:51  <stillunknown> but where do you get the money from?
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23:28:01  <V453000> aircraft
23:28:11  <V453000> @quickstart
23:28:13  <V453000> ^
23:28:13  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki -
23:28:16  <V453000> ^
23:28:17  <V453000> :D
23:28:37  <stillunknown> you  guys are not hardcore enough if you use planes for money
23:28:48  <V453000> have you seen our games?
23:28:52  <sietse> !info
23:28:52  <PublicServer> sietse: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'OTTDC PSG#175'  Year Founded: 1950  Money: 985749710  Loan: 0  Value: 1055848434  (T:827, R:8, P:7, S:0) unprotected
23:29:17  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0006461D:
23:29:22  <PublicServer> <Dr. Watson> I agree: planes=not hardcore
23:29:35  <PublicServer> <Qanael> We could easily use a small coal route, it'd just be slower
23:29:40  <Ammler> [00:28] <stillunknown> you  guys are not hardcore enough if you use planes for money <-- indeed, sometime we cheat the money :-P
23:29:41  <V453000> no
23:29:47  <V453000> that would make the industries impalenced
23:29:48  <PublicServer> <Dr. Watson> there are seven planes in the air right now!
23:29:53  <PublicServer> <Dr. Watson> and a blimp!
23:29:54  <V453000> imbalanced
23:30:08  <V453000> !password
23:30:08  <PublicServer> V453000: griped
23:30:21  <Ammler> stillunknown: if you feel like, you can compete us...
23:30:26  <V453000> :D
23:30:26  <Ammler> we have a special server for it.
23:30:31  <stillunknown> V453000: i've seen a few, what i meant to say is that you should try building that network from scratch without any cheating
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23:30:41  <PublicServer> <Qanael> T04 still needs more FPP trains, I'll build a few
23:30:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> kk
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23:30:58  <stillunknown> Ammler: i'm fairly rusty, i just try openttd every once and a while
23:31:29  <Ammler> me too, quite a long time ago, I really played a game.
23:31:31  <V453000> I think showing us your savegame would be enough :)
23:31:42  <V453000> it doesnt have to be recent
23:32:12  <stillunknown> i don't keep these things, and honestly my networks look shabby compared to yours
23:32:31  <V453000> ;)
23:32:45  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Come join the game, have some fun
23:32:49  <stillunknown> but i did not resort to planes to get my initial funds :-)
23:32:50  <V453000> yeah
23:32:50  <PublicServer> <Qanael> There's still stuff to be built
23:32:53  <V453000> we dont have to compete :)
23:32:56  <V453000> we are coop
23:33:22  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I'm a total newb by the server's standards and I've built my share of stations :P
23:33:41  <stillunknown> my mind is in ECS mode right now, and i'm kind of intrigued, after getting the hang of it
23:34:00  <V453000> stillunknown: if you want to get money for multiple players, often a lot of terraforming, keep the industries on the same level of production ... planes with town growth off is the best solution
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23:34:49  <stillunknown> but how realistic is to carve away a mountain?
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23:35:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> do we need anything to be realistic in a game?
23:35:22  <Qanael> Most of the games I've played here have fairly low TF
23:35:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes most
23:35:31  <Qanael> This one in particular has barely any, on a mountain map
23:35:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> see PZ 05 :D
23:35:51  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Tracks winding their way through mountain passes = pretty
23:36:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh poo
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23:36:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> single bridge issue just at the first split after FPP pickup
23:37:20  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Whoops
23:37:41  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Can he fix it? Yes he can!
23:37:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> I am fixing already
23:37:52  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Yeah I'm watching
23:38:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> omg :D
23:38:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok
23:38:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> not this way
23:38:58  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Why not leave the old bridge there?
23:39:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> need more space
23:39:07  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Oh, no room for split
23:39:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> for the doubles
23:39:11  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I see it
23:39:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> we will also need a LL_RR probably soon
23:39:47  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Might need to move the S bend forward 1 tile
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23:40:28  <PublicServer> <Qanael> There you go :D
23:41:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> quite dirty yet :D
23:42:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will keep it in this state
23:43:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> the other tracks are unused
23:43:04  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Yeah
23:43:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> well, not anyhow nice and clean but it will work
23:44:19  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0005A820:
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23:44:56  <V453000> ^ interesting screenshot :D
23:45:16  <V453000> !password
23:45:16  <PublicServer> V453000: copier
23:45:22  <PeterT> !screen
23:45:24  <PublicServer> *** PeterT made screenshot at 0005741E:
23:45:28  <V453000> !stats
23:45:28  <PublicServer> V453000: use @coopstats
23:45:33  <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game
23:45:34  <V453000> @stats
23:45:34  <Webster> V453000: I have 16 registered users with 18 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 5 admins.
23:45:44  <PeterT> V453000: @coopstats
23:45:45  <V453000> @coopstats¨
23:45:46  <V453000> lol
23:45:48  <PeterT> FAIL
23:45:49  <V453000> :D
23:45:53  <V453000> @coopstats
23:45:53  <Webster>
23:45:53  <PeterT> @coopstats
23:45:54  <Webster>
23:45:56  <PeterT> ^
23:46:02  <V453000> yes I know :D thx
23:46:16  <PeterT> Are you really that concerned about having the most lines?
23:46:21  <stillunknown> what is that "prio for depo entry?" supposed to achieve?
23:46:24  <V453000> not only that I never remember if it is ! or @ but I also mess up 2 more times :D
23:46:43  <V453000> stillunknown: it gives way to the trains passing by
23:47:51  <V453000>
23:47:52  <Webster> Title: #openttdcoop @ OFTC stats by Webster (at
23:47:56  <V453000> ^omfg :D
23:48:11  <Qanael> Hmm
23:48:16  <Qanael> Does it do that for any site?
23:48:22  <Qanael>
23:48:23  <Webster> Title: Google (at
23:48:24  <V453000> yes
23:48:26  <stillunknown> V453000: that still doesn't tell me what it does
23:48:26  <Qanael> Nice
23:48:37  <V453000> stillunknown: build it, try it
23:48:44  <Ammler> Qanael: not that you use it for OT things ;-)
23:48:46  <KenjiE20> V453000: easy, ! is for game commands, @ for IRC
23:48:48  <V453000> best way is to join us on the server
23:48:52  <Qanael> I know :P
23:49:09  <V453000> Kenji: which proves me an utter noob in these things :D
23:49:13  <V453000> thanks
23:49:15  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Hmm, transfer 07 still not built
23:49:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> go on
23:49:39  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Could just build it on the SL really, I don't see the reason for all that stuff in the corner
23:49:51  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Since the SL doesn't go anywhere else
23:49:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> I have built 3 alraedy and I dont want to eat up everything :)
23:50:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> Qanael: NO!
23:50:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is the ML SL
23:50:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> it has nothing to do with the food feeders
23:50:28  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Ohhh
23:50:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> check sign To transfer 7
23:50:33  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Yeah I see it :D
23:51:14  <V453000> omfg in the last 30 day I am most active at all hours and I have the most lines written :D oh my god
23:52:02  <PeterT> Proof. You have no life.
23:52:13  <V453000> heh
23:52:15  <V453000> I dont think so
23:52:28  <V453000> I wasnt here for the last two days if you noticed :p
23:52:33  <Ammler> PeterT: go pack to Autopilot!
23:52:40  <V453000> :DDD
23:52:42  <V453000> now you got it
23:52:55  <PeterT> Ammler: I need that package expect, but it's sooo hard to get working! :-(
23:53:00  <Ammler> the p is by intention ;-)
23:53:01  <PeterT> not even an addition to $PATH
23:53:47  <Ammler> try it in simple CMD, only once, please.
23:54:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> ._. transfer 07 has unluckily just one city
23:54:40  <PeterT> Ammler: Doing it in simple CMD is the same as double-clicking
23:54:50  <PeterT> it's like saying:
23:55:02  <stillunknown> V453000: it only ensures a minimal spacing between trains?
23:55:04  <PeterT> openttd.exe -h in CMD == openttd.exe -h in Linux bash
23:55:26  <PublicServer> <Dr. Watson> needs more trains
23:55:29  <V453000> stillunknown: then you built it wrong :)
23:55:36  <V453000> come join in game I will show you
23:57:39  <stillunknown> that would involve compiling whatever version you're running
23:58:26  <V453000> well just download the nightly
23:59:21  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00001B9D:

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