Log for #openttdcoop on 11th February 2010:
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03:08:00  <Razaekel> !info
03:08:00  <PublicServer> Razaekel: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'OTTDC BV'  Year Founded: 1950  Money: 75045632  Loan: 0  Value: 75337674  (T:0, R:0, P:7, S:0) unprotected
03:08:09  <Razaekel> !date
03:08:09  <PublicServer> Razaekel:  6 Feb 1986
03:14:06  <PeterT> Night all
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07:36:29  <ODM> !password
07:36:29  <PublicServer> ODM: abated
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07:38:23  <PublicServer> <0DM> mornin
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09:11:19  <mitooo> !playercount
09:11:19  <PublicServer> mitooo: Number of players: 1
09:11:24  <mitooo> !password
09:11:24  <PublicServer> mitooo: valise
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09:12:03  <PublicServer> <Mitooo> hi :)
09:13:54  <PublicServer> <0DM> ellow
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09:20:51  <PublicServer> <0DM> hows it goin?
09:23:29  <PublicServer> <Mitooo> good, and you?
09:23:38  <PublicServer> <0DM> sick:( stupid stuff
09:24:22  <PublicServer> <Mitooo> :| hope you'll get better :)
09:24:31  <PublicServer> <0DM> thanks
09:24:40  <PublicServer> <0DM> getting annoying:p
09:26:34  <PublicServer> <0DM> hope we can get to some building soon
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09:29:37  <PublicServer> <0DM> we have some cool trains by now^^
09:30:44  <PublicServer> <Mitooo> combuster's plan remains me PSG n°121
09:31:02  <PublicServer> <0DM> it is, but in a slightly different format
09:31:44  <PublicServer> <0DM> actually, not that close, no SRNW:P
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09:33:04  <Tray> !download win32
09:33:04  <PublicServer> Tray:
09:34:15  <PublicServer> <0DM> and wood instead of farms
09:34:31  <Tray> !password
09:34:31  <PublicServer> Tray: waylay
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09:41:42  <PublicServer> <0DM> welcome:p
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09:42:11  <PublicServer> <Tray> Well, hi.
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09:56:09  <PublicServer> <0DM> lemme know when something happens^^
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09:57:01  <mitooo> yeah, me tooo :)
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10:51:36  <Thijs> !password
10:51:36  <PublicServer> Thijs: gaming
10:51:46  <Thijs> !players
10:51:48  <PublicServer> Thijs: There are currently no clients connected to the server
10:52:34  <Thijs> !download
10:52:34  <PublicServer> Thijs: !download autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x
10:52:39  <Thijs> !download win64
10:52:39  <PublicServer> Thijs:
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11:20:49  <pryot> !help
11:20:49  <PublicServer> pryot:
11:21:40  <pryot> !download
11:21:40  <PublicServer> pryot: !download autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x
11:21:52  <pryot> !download win32
11:21:52  <PublicServer> pryot:
11:22:22  <ODM> spike, fold paper planes
11:22:38  <^Spike^> nah... :)
11:22:44  <^Spike^> need to do some programming
11:23:20  <pryot> !password
11:23:21  <PublicServer> pryot: rioter
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11:24:12  <^Spike^> oh well it seems i can create my own schedule so maybe swap this subject for something else
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11:27:06  <^Spike^> how is voting going btw
11:28:25  <ODM> 4-3 for combuster
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11:31:06  <^Spike^> ... 3 for you?
11:31:10  <^Spike^> did you vote on yourself again? ;)
11:31:43  <ODM> no, i voted for combuster:P
11:32:01  <^Spike^> :)
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11:38:09  <Thijs> !password
11:38:09  <PublicServer> Thijs: bomber
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11:38:43  <^Spike^> ODM: where is the convincer? thought we would make it a 10-0 voting board :)
11:40:30  <ODM> say what now?
11:40:49  <^Spike^> thought you qould bribe ppl? :)
11:40:52  <^Spike^> would*
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11:44:09  <ODM> with pies?:P
11:45:26  <^Spike^> possible.. :)
11:45:47  <MDGrein> !password
11:45:47  <PublicServer> MDGrein: fowled
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11:46:13  <ODM> pies are win
11:47:31  <^Spike^> can be easy... :)
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12:01:57  <[com]buster> Hmm this is going to take a while, with 9 votes evenly distributed over two plans...
12:03:19  <ODM> lol
12:04:32  <^Spike^> hmmm 9 now?
12:05:03  <^Spike^> prob can't visit the screenshot thingie.. oh well :)
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12:09:03  <[com]buster> 'afternoon Kenji
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12:30:29  <Chris_Booth> !password
12:30:29  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: induct
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12:31:07  <Phazorx> make a plan that takes best from both "winners" ?
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12:32:00  <KenjiE20> rawr
12:32:07  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth #1> morning
12:32:21  <KenjiE20> ^ you can change that now
12:32:23  <KenjiE20> :P
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12:35:43  <^Spike^> Phazorx: that's no fun.. then you get 2 captains leading a ship.. that always fails :)
12:35:50  <mitooo> !password
12:35:50  <PublicServer> mitooo: induct
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12:43:32  <ODM> a sinking ship that is
12:47:21  <Phazorx> spike  meant make a 3rd plan more or less going in same directions as winning 2
13:00:50  <ODM> !password
13:00:50  <PublicServer> ODM: tinier
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13:02:13  <PublicServer> <0DM> hmm dont really know how that would work
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13:14:26  <^Spike^> and back home...
13:22:04  <PublicServer> <0DM> wb
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13:33:05  <PublicServer> <0DM> survived the boring stuff?:p
13:34:58  <PublicServer> <Spike> :)
13:36:03  <^Spike^> after 2,5 years surving boring stuff at college gets easy :)
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14:12:45  <tistatos> o7
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14:19:28  <ODM> ellow
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15:51:46  <PublicServer> <Combuster> bah
15:51:49  <PublicServer> <Combuster> 5v5
15:51:56  <PublicServer> <Combuster> we're never going to play this way
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15:53:56  <jondisti> !password
15:53:56  <PublicServer> jondisti: toasts
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15:59:04  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> 5v6
15:59:07  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> :-)
15:59:12  <PublicServer> <Spike> :)
16:00:39  <ODM> srsly?
16:00:50  <^Spike^> 6 combuster v 5 ODM
16:00:58  <ODM> i see a trend
16:01:01  <Ammler> nice voting board :-D
16:01:08  <^Spike^> the other 2 got no votes..
16:01:49  <[com]buster> If the trend is that I keep one step ahead of you... :)
16:01:56  <^Spike^> hehehe
16:02:07  <ODM> yes, thats the one i spotted
16:02:33  <ODM> can you somehow incorporate long trains in your plan?:P
16:02:54  <PublicServer> <Combuster> TL7 is quite long
16:03:21  <PublicServer> <Combuster> anything above that doesn't work as first-tier
16:03:46  <ODM> true
16:03:54  <Phazorx> any of plans belong to members there?
16:04:09  <PublicServer> <Combuster> All plans with votes are members'
16:04:20  <Phazorx> i see :)
16:05:38  <Phazorx> Ammler: have we ever had a point-to-point game?
16:05:50  <PublicServer> <Combuster> most pax games are
16:06:09  <PublicServer> <Combuster> at least, if you mean multipoint-to-multipoint
16:06:49  <Phazorx> i mean a game with lots of terminals and no junctions
16:07:00  <Phazorx> with many segregated min lines
16:07:01  <PublicServer> <Combuster> That's so un-coopish
16:07:02  <Phazorx> mini
16:07:11  <Ammler> didn't youself once make such a plan?
16:07:18  <Phazorx> heh, it's a bascaly station desgn showoff
16:07:26  <Phazorx> Ammler: i'm here like 20 minute a day
16:07:32  <Phazorx> i wont be able to guide the game
16:07:48  <Ammler> [17:05] <Phazorx> Ammler: have we ever had a point-to-point game?
16:08:14  <PublicServer> <Combuster> It sounds like a progman project to me...
16:08:29  <PublicServer> <Combuster> lot of boring work
16:09:14  <Phazorx> combuster it's a totol oposite of grid actually :)
16:09:18  <Phazorx> *total
16:09:51  <Phazorx> ad you get to have many varios TLs up to somethign monsterous
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16:10:19  <Seberoth> hello all
16:10:21  <Phazorx> Ammler: i dont recall ever making a plan like that
16:10:24  <Phazorx> but i did suggested that
16:10:30  <Phazorx> like 3 years ago or something :)
16:10:55  <PublicServer> <Spike> what if the voting board stays like this? :)
16:11:03  <ODM> thenw e are doomed
16:11:15  <PublicServer> <Spike> we just keep the voting stage till we got a decisive winner? :)
16:11:36  <^Spike^> @Stage Planning the Voting
16:11:36  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #176 (r19068) | STAGE: Planning the Voting | | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: | Coopetition ladder:"
16:13:07  <Phazorx> split voting usually means one of following:
16:13:20  <Phazorx> 1) both plans are of equal quality
16:13:25  <Phazorx> 2) both plans are same
16:13:52  <Fuco> !dl win64
16:13:52  <PublicServer> Fuco:
16:14:13  <ODM> both plans suck as much?:P
16:14:17  <^Spike^> they certainly aren't the same.. :)
16:14:20  <^Spike^> so.. what ODM said ;)
16:14:50  <[com]buster> at least, they suck less than the other two plans
16:14:57  <[com]buster> with their total lack of votes
16:15:00  <ODM> marginally:p
16:15:06  <^Spike^> barely.. :)
16:15:19  <ODM> see if mark was here this would be over ages ago
16:15:29  <Fuco> !password
16:15:29  <PublicServer> Fuco: morose
16:15:34  <^Spike^> it would be over in 2 hours.. ;)
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16:17:51  <PublicServer> <0DM> hm
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16:19:48  <PublicServer> <Combuster> mâh
16:19:53  <PublicServer> <Combuster> the 6400 is underrated
16:20:14  <PublicServer> <0DM> hmm?
16:20:22  <PublicServer> <0DM> aw only 120
16:21:11  <PublicServer> <0DM> heh, the ns 1600 can actually carry 2 crates of goods
16:22:04  <PublicServer> <0DM> brb, dinner
16:22:11  <PublicServer> <0DM> and after well decide one way or another:p
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16:23:53  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Hmm
16:24:09  <PublicServer> <Combuster> I don't see Intexon's vote, nor Ammler's, nor Fucoo's
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16:28:47  <Ammler> I would vote for ODM
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16:29:42  <^Spike^> you just do that to annoy us.. to even the score.. ;)
16:30:44  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> minimap zoom
16:31:01  <PublicServer> <Spike> saw that.. nice feature :)
16:35:08  <Fuco> well, you don't see TL 35 every day
16:36:24  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> oh, dutch trainset
16:36:55  <PublicServer> <Amm1er> first time using that
16:37:56  <jondisti> weird, my ISP called and wanted to upgrade my 10M/2M ADSL to 24M/2M ADSL for free
16:38:04  <jondisti> and it really was free
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16:39:53  <Ammler> jondisti: that just means, you paid too much for the 10M/2M yet.
16:39:59  <^Spike^> :)
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16:44:00  <jondisti> that might be :P
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16:45:40  <Boyinblue0> Hi all :)
16:46:45  <Ammler> !rcon network_chat_box_width
16:46:45  <PublicServer> Ammler: ERROR: command or variable not found
16:46:48  <Ammler> !rcon set network_chat_box_width
16:46:48  <PublicServer> Ammler: Current value for 'network_chat_box_width' is: '200' (min: 200, max: 65535)
16:46:54  <Ammler> !rcon set network_chat_box_width 700
16:54:01  <Boyinblue0> !password
16:54:01  <PublicServer> Boyinblue0: beaver
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16:56:32  <PublicServer> <Boyinblue0> Guys how do you follow a vehicle?
16:56:50  <PublicServer> <Combuster> ctrl+click the location buttonj
16:57:05  <PublicServer> <Combuster> (the one with the eye)
16:57:53  <PublicServer> <Boyinblue0> Ok thnaks :)
16:58:08  <PublicServer> <Boyinblue0> *thanks
16:58:11  <PublicServer> <Combuster> np
16:58:53  <PublicServer> <Boyinblue0> What happens if there is a tie in votging?
16:58:58  <PublicServer> <Boyinblue0> *voting
16:59:32  <PublicServer> <Combuster> we fight to d,,, wait
17:01:06  <^Spike^> combuster do you? where? i wanna see!
17:01:09  <ODM> we roshamboo for it
17:01:16  <^Spike^> RPS?
17:01:27  <Boyinblue0> Hehhe :p
17:01:33  <ODM> rps?
17:01:50  <^Spike^> Rock/Paper/Scissors
17:02:04  <ODM> you mean ofcourse RPSLS
17:02:13  <ODM> !password
17:02:13  <PublicServer> ODM: escort
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17:02:42  <PublicServer> <0DM> aaw no more people are voting
17:03:30  <PublicServer> <Combuster> ODM: to be honest, I doubt that 4MLs are going to be enough
17:03:37  <PublicServer> <Combuster> even with bigTLs
17:03:42  <PublicServer> <0DM> ofcourse theyre not:)
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17:04:57  <[com]buster> hmm, how to break the impasse...
17:05:07  <PublicServer> <0DM> random diceroll?:p
17:05:28  <^Spike^> i have a number under the 345346456456 in my head...
17:05:29  <^Spike^> ;)
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17:05:40  <PublicServer> <0DM> is it 1234567890
17:05:45  <^Spike^> nah...
17:05:50  <PublicServer> <0DM> darn
17:05:57  <ODM> @random
17:06:07  <ODM> lame:P
17:06:10  <^Spike^> :)
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17:06:45  <[alt]buster> [18:05] <@^Spike^> i have a number under the 345346456456 in my head... <- Pi! minus infinity! :)
17:06:51  <^Spike^> :)
17:07:13  <PublicServer> <0DM> im alright to go with combuster, but we need a big train game somewhere soon then:p
17:07:48  <^Spike^> maybe bribe combuster? :)
17:07:57  <[alt]buster> Just force death feeders next game?
17:07:59  <PublicServer> <0DM> beer mm
17:08:09  <^Spike^> bleh... then not my map next...
17:08:11  <PublicServer> <0DM> why do you call them death feeders anyway, and not feeders?:p
17:08:11  <[alt]buster> beer? where?
17:08:38  <PublicServer> *** Combuster joined the game
17:09:19  <PublicServer> <0DM> fridge
17:09:34  * [alt]buster opens fridge
17:09:37  <^Spike^> walking fridge?
17:09:41  <PublicServer> <0DM> heh
17:09:43  <[alt]buster> sorry, only pizza in here
17:09:52  <^Spike^> pizza.....
17:10:06  <PublicServer> <0DM> btw combuster, will there be anything else on the island beside a massive drop?
17:10:07  <hylje> Pizza
17:10:25  <PublicServer> <0DM> hylje!
17:10:28  <PublicServer> <0DM> we have a voter:p
17:10:42  <[alt]buster> to make the tie again...
17:10:50  <PublicServer> <0DM> yeah he is that mean
17:10:55  <PublicServer> <0DM> :P
17:11:38  <PublicServer> <0DM> but ok, im bored, congrats, you win:(:P
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17:11:50  <PublicServer> <Combuster> ...yay?
17:11:53  <PublicServer> <0DM> woo!
17:12:06  <PublicServer> <Spike> party?
17:12:09  <PublicServer> <0DM> heh
17:12:26  <PublicServer> <Combuster> well ok
17:12:26  <PublicServer> <0DM> i need 2 members to agree with ending voting:p
17:12:37  <PublicServer> <Combuster> I can't
17:12:38  <PublicServer> <Spike> i don't know..... :)
17:12:45  <PublicServer> <0DM> sure you can:p
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17:13:17  <PublicServer> <Combuster> I'm the victim, you know I can't declare myself winner
17:13:42  <PublicServer> <0DM> we'll let might spike do the ruling
17:13:49  <PublicServer> <Combuster> *mighty
17:13:54  <PublicServer> <0DM> ty
17:13:58  <PublicServer> <Spike> as junior member... :)
17:13:59  <PublicServer> <0DM> typing is hard ok?
17:14:09  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0003CCA8:
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17:20:07  <ODM> hm
17:20:13  <^Spike^> mmh?
17:20:26  <ODM> now theres still nothin:(
17:20:57  <^Spike^> well would be nice to have a bigger margin in votes...
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17:21:10  <PublicServer> <0DM> true
17:21:21  <PublicServer> <0DM> not sure thatll happen though
17:21:28  <^Spike^> else you're gonna get: But i was gonna vote <insertnamehere>
17:21:49  <PublicServer> *** 0DM has left the game (leaving)
17:23:31  <mig> hello there fellow ttd folks - i just tried to join the pub server to spectade and learn but it was password protected ... how do one get hold of the password? ;D
17:24:27  <planetmaker> @quickstart
17:24:28  <ODM> *points at the topic*;)
17:24:29  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki -
17:24:57  <ODM> seriously pm, you keep comin out of nowhere:D hey!
17:25:09  <^Spike^> it's just an auto replier.. ;)
17:25:25  <planetmaker> lalala :-)
17:25:38  <ODM> it only replies if some stars are in a certain alignment
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17:25:52  <planetmaker> I see you figured it out ;-)
17:25:58  <^Spike^> when pluto crosses jupier and saturn @ the same time?
17:26:02  <^Spike^> jupiter*
17:26:11  <planetmaker> Jupilier
17:26:17  <ODM> jupiler:O
17:26:19  <^Spike^> when beer is in his firdge
17:26:20  <^Spike^> then
17:26:28  <planetmaker> ;-) exactly :-P
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17:27:59  <ODM> that better be always
17:31:11  <PublicServer> <Spike> hmmm
17:31:51  <ODM> hmm?
17:32:14  <[alt]buster> ODM: got a scenario just for you
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17:32:38  <ODM> uh oh:P
17:33:28  <[alt]buster> in the hopes to keep you happy in case of your loss
17:34:08  <ODM> ill be happy anyway^^ but you have made me curious
17:34:11  <PublicServer> <Spike> so... dare we to name a winner? :)
17:35:32  <ODM> fine for me, i wanna build something
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17:36:04  <ODM> btw, combuster, will there be any joins/splits on the east-west bits? or just on the north-south stretches
17:36:08  <^Spike^> if combuster wakes up we can.. :)
17:36:17  <[alt]buster> sure
17:36:24  <[alt]buster> you know what I was doing
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17:37:06  <^Spike^> @stage Building
17:37:06  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #176 (r19068) | STAGE: Building | | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: | Coopetition ladder:"
17:37:13  <ODM> lol, subtle rule:p
17:37:27  <PublicServer> <Spike> :)
17:37:35  <[alt]buster> does it suffice, ODM?
17:37:37  <PublicServer> <Spike> you also wanted to build.. get in here! :)
17:37:44  <ODM> !password
17:37:44  <PublicServer> ODM: realty
17:37:50  <PublicServer> *** 0DM joined the game
17:37:57  <ODM> not really what i mean, but i appreciate the thought^^
17:38:16  <PublicServer> <Spike> lead the way combuster? :)
17:38:29  <PublicServer> <0DM> combuster, i asked a question a bit higher up
17:39:13  <PublicServer> <Spike> do we need the magic bulldozer or?
17:39:24  <PublicServer> <0DM> spike, maybe we should build a default SML shift somewhere for TL7
17:39:29  <PublicServer> <0DM> so people dont mess up:p
17:39:47  <PublicServer> <Combuster> MB shouldn't be necessary<
17:39:48  <PublicServer> <Spike> default? or our interpetation? :)
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17:39:53  <PublicServer> <Combuster> we can do better than that :)
17:39:56  <PublicServer> <0DM> the one with the failsafe bit
17:40:08  <PublicServer> <Spike> network plans has space for it :)
17:40:11  <PublicServer> <0DM> hmm 6 lines is massive
17:40:14  <PublicServer> <0DM> uh 16*
17:40:35  <PublicServer> <Combuster> the previous mass cargo game had 21
17:40:48  <PublicServer> <0DM> werent those trains smaller btw?
17:40:56  <PublicServer> <Combuster> hence 5 less :)
17:40:59  <PublicServer> <0DM> hehe
17:41:12  <PublicServer> <0DM> bridge the water, landbridge, or just fill it up?
17:41:43  <PublicServer> <Combuster> landbridge where necessary
17:42:32  <PublicServer> <Spike> crap.. i started on the wrong side? :)
17:42:34  <PublicServer> <0DM> seems alright
17:42:49  <PublicServer> <0DM> yes:P but its ok, well extend the other side
17:43:44  <PublicServer> <0DM> and then the joining track?
17:44:11  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00038299:
17:44:40  <PublicServer> <Spike> also join-safe bit there?
17:44:43  <PublicServer> <0DM> nah
17:44:44  <PublicServer> <Spike> guess just normal prio
17:44:47  <PublicServer> <0DM> no use, it cant go on anyway
17:45:19  <PublicServer> <0DM> that seems alright
17:45:25  <PublicServer> <Spike> yep
17:45:41  <PublicServer> <0DM> its still a stylish build form
17:46:01  <PublicServer> <0DM> how many platforms per line at the drop?
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17:46:26  <PublicServer> <0DM> heh:p
17:46:33  <PublicServer> <Spike> you overflowed him with questions
17:46:33  <PublicServer> <Spike> ;)
17:46:35  <planetmaker> welcome here :-)
17:46:37  <aber> !password
17:46:37  <PublicServer> aber: tuners
17:46:53  <PublicServer> <0DM> i was just being curious:p
17:47:10  <[alt]buster> Nothing specific
17:47:19  <[alt]buster> enough to make it work :)
17:47:21  <PublicServer> <0DM> darn, building normal railway
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17:47:41  <PublicServer> <Spike> we'll convert later on
17:48:41  <PublicServer> <0DM> and, my previous question, are joins just on the vertical bits, or also on the horizontal parts?
17:49:08  <PublicServer> <Combuster> SLs where necessary
17:49:11  <PublicServer> <0DM> k
17:49:19  <PublicServer> <Combuster> but using the outer ML is probably easiest
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17:49:30  <PublicServer> <0DM> ok
17:49:47  <PublicServer> <0DM> feel free to put some important markers down:p
17:50:17  <zerpa> !password
17:50:17  <PublicServer> zerpa: tuners
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17:51:52  <PublicServer> <0DM> straight on^^
17:51:54  <Kenix> !download win32
17:51:54  <PublicServer> Kenix:
17:52:00  <PublicServer> <Spike> did we also separate the stations on that srnw farm game?
17:52:13  <PublicServer> <Spike> i thought it all was same station there with 4 factories or so and worked without a problem?
17:52:14  <PublicServer> <0DM> we had 4 different networks
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17:52:27  <PublicServer> <0DM> with 4 different drops, all with its own factory
17:52:30  <PublicServer> <Spike> nah.. it was the one with the massive SML with marks plan
17:52:43  <PublicServer> <0DM> those were 4 seperate sml networks;)
17:52:56  <PublicServer> * Spike dives into archive
17:53:31  <PublicServer> <Spike> game 149
17:53:46  <PublicServer> <0DM> oh i thought you meant 121
17:53:49  <PublicServer> <Spike> :)_
17:53:50  <Kenix> !password
17:53:50  <PublicServer> Kenix: tuners
17:53:52  <PublicServer> <0DM> that was farm srnw:p
17:53:54  <PublicServer> <0DM> and sml
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17:54:42  <PublicServer> <Spike> ah no.. 3 different drops there aswell
17:54:48  <PublicServer> <0DM> it doesnt work if you dont
17:58:00  <PublicServer> <0DM> yay entry waypoint:p
17:58:09  <PublicServer> <Spike> trying to think how to get them at different drops.. maybe just mix the 6 platforms...
17:58:22  <PublicServer> <Spike> since it's all the same cargo they drop shouldn't be a problem
17:58:23  <PublicServer> <Combuster> look at the plan
17:58:38  <PublicServer> <0DM> dont beat your head round it, just start with some sawmills, and you can change platforms later
17:58:49  <PublicServer> <0DM> will need some tuning later anyway
17:59:13  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0002CC84:
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18:00:16  <Razaekel> it wasnt 4 seperate SML networks, it was 1 SML network with a 4 way splitter
18:00:38  <PublicServer> <0DM> psst, i was talking about 121
18:00:51  <Razaekel> @archive
18:00:51  <Webster> I think you meant '!archive' Razaekel but here: | |
18:01:07  <Razaekel> my toe is broken, whee /sarcasm
18:01:12  <PublicServer> <0DM> nice job
18:01:41  <Razaekel> who added the dutch trainset?
18:01:42  <PublicServer> <0DM> whats the max gap for this tl?
18:01:52  <Razaekel> @grfpack
18:01:52  <PublicServer> <0DM> i did
18:01:57  <Razaekel> nice going
18:01:59  <Razaekel> ass
18:02:02  <Razaekel> it's not on bananas
18:02:07  <Razaekel> !grfpack
18:02:16  <^Spike^> @tunnels 7
18:02:16  <Webster> ^Spike^: For Trainlength of 7: < 13 needs 2, 14 - 22 needs 3, 23 - 31 needs 4.
18:02:18  <PublicServer> <0DM> afaik it is on bananas?
18:02:26  <Razaekel> bananas says it isnt
18:02:37  <Ammler> it isn't in the pack...
18:03:36  <Razaekel> huh
18:03:52  <Razaekel> it said Dutch Trainset Alpha 1.1 wasn't on bananas
18:04:03  <Razaekel> but restarting it now has NS spoor
18:04:22  <Razaekel> !password
18:04:22  <PublicServer> Razaekel: dapper
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18:04:40  <PublicServer> <Spike> i tried to save it for a part.. ;)
18:04:44  <PublicServer> <Spike> water tracks are cool! :)
18:04:45  <PublicServer> <0DM> hehe
18:05:03  <PublicServer> <Spike> oh well let's kill it :)
18:05:41  <PublicServer> <0DM> lotsa trees!:p
18:05:47  <PublicServer> <0DM> so raz, does it work now?
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18:06:05  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> wood only?
18:06:08  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> clearly
18:06:19  <PublicServer> <0DM> do you perhaps want to take something back then?
18:06:26  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> yer not an ass
18:06:32  <PublicServer> <0DM> ty.
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18:07:31  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> that's gonna be a big dropoff
18:08:00  <PublicServer> <Spike> :D
18:08:31  <PublicServer> <0DM> it does look nice though
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18:10:10  <PublicServer> <Spike> only the church left
18:10:10  <PublicServer> <0DM> do we have naming conventions for the Sidelines and mainline braches?
18:10:17  <PublicServer> <0DM> you heretic!
18:12:24  <mig> !password
18:12:24  <PublicServer> mig: dapper
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18:12:41  <PublicServer> <0DM> nice
18:12:44  <PublicServer> <Spike> they can keep the church..
18:12:44  <PublicServer> <Spike> :)
18:12:55  <PublicServer> *** Player joined the game
18:12:55  <Webster> Player, please change your in game nick
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18:15:45  <Razaekal> !password
18:15:45  <PublicServer> Razaekal: hooves
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18:17:33  <PublicServer> <0DM> what x coords will the other 3 branches come?
18:17:57  <PublicServer> <Combuster> 256, 384
18:18:05  <PublicServer> <Combuster> er
18:18:09  <PublicServer> <0DM> ;)
18:19:05  <PublicServer> <Combuster> 200, 300, 400
18:19:06  <PublicServer> <0DM> thats how far my brain got
18:19:10  <PublicServer> <0DM> k
18:21:11  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> that's one town down
18:21:15  <PublicServer> <0DM> heh
18:21:24  <PublicServer> <0DM> push to the inside btw?
18:21:44  <PublicServer> <Combuster> yes
18:21:44  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> dunno, but joiner should be on inside
18:22:00  <PublicServer> <0DM> so joiner is on outside
18:22:07  <PublicServer> <Combuster> there's space to add MLs on the inside for that purpose
18:22:15  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> ok
18:22:20  <PublicServer> <0DM> alright
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18:22:45  <PublicServer> <Spike> we created example wrong way around 0DM? :)
18:23:01  <PublicServer> <Spike> but i gotta go for a few hours...
18:23:05  <PublicServer> <0DM> yeah, but thats just an idea naywya
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18:31:59  <Pirate87> !playercount
18:31:59  <PublicServer> Pirate87: Number of players: 7
18:32:03  <PublicServer> <0DM> there we go
18:32:10  <Pirate87> !password
18:32:10  <PublicServer> Pirate87: pleats
18:32:18  <Pirate87> !download win32
18:32:18  <PublicServer> Pirate87:
18:32:46  <PublicServer> <0DM> hm im thinking about how to make the big drop
18:33:03  <PublicServer> <Combuster> I have to go shortly :(
18:33:09  <PublicServer> <0DM> ohno
18:33:19  <PublicServer> <0DM> a win and dash:O
18:34:21  <PublicServer> <0DM> if you can atleast put down the important stuff:)
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18:35:44  <PublicServer> <0DM> hm is it me, or do the first and second branch seem a bit close?
18:35:52  <planetmaker> !revision
18:35:52  <PublicServer> planetmaker: Game version is r19068
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18:36:14  <PublicServer> <Combuster> They do
18:36:32  <PublicServer> <Combuster> because I started laying them out wrong
18:36:37  <PublicServer> <0DM> heh:p
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18:39:50  <PublicServer> <0DM> should we move it a bit?
18:40:23  <PublicServer> <Combuster> I built the next ML
18:40:32  <PublicServer> <Combuster> You don't really see the difference
18:40:47  <PublicServer> <0DM> <- sucker for symmetry:p
18:40:57  <PublicServer> <0DM> but ok:)
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18:42:52  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hi
18:43:01  <PublicServer> <Combuster> hi pm
18:43:10  <PublicServer> <0DM> hey mate
18:43:10  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> :-O
18:43:23  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> what a bridge-mania at ENTRY WAYPOINT
18:43:34  <PublicServer> <0DM> exit is worse imo:p
18:43:38  <PublicServer> <Combuster> futureproofed :)
18:44:19  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 000396EE:
18:44:44  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> srnw?
18:44:53  <PublicServer> <0DM> nop
18:45:18  <PublicServer> <Combuster> only SML
18:45:32  <Boyinblue0> !wiki SML
18:45:32  <PublicServer> Boyinblue0:
18:45:42  <PublicServer> <Combuster> well, gotta go
18:45:46  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> good :-)
18:45:47  <PublicServer> <0DM> aight, cya
18:45:55  <PublicServer> <Combuster> I suppose you can take it from here?
18:46:04  <PublicServer> <0DM> i think we'll be fine
18:46:07  <PublicServer> <0DM> ill keep an eye out anyway
18:46:26  <PublicServer> <Combuster> might pop in after midnight
18:46:34  <PublicServer> <0DM> one last question, will you allow an SLH between the two horizontal bits? if it fits? or do you want to keep it clear
18:47:02  <PublicServer> <Combuster> you can add SLHs on the south side of the map, yes
18:47:14  <PublicServer> <0DM> ok, ty
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18:47:42  <PublicServer> <0DM> gonna build along pm, or just popping in?:)
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18:48:17  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> I *should* only do the latter unfortunately
18:48:28  <PublicServer> <0DM> busy with uni?
18:48:31  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> yeah
18:49:08  <PublicServer> <0DM> évils
18:49:16  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> indeed ;-)
18:50:29  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> are those three completely separate branches?
18:50:39  <PublicServer> <0DM> 4 actually
18:50:40  <PublicServer> <0DM> and yes
18:50:53  <PublicServer> <0DM> no need to merge them, just makes it complicated
18:50:56  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> k
18:51:29  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> what's the gap length for 2?
18:52:10  <PublicServer> <0DM> uh
18:52:30  <PublicServer> <0DM> 13 apparently
18:52:48  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> why apparently?
18:53:19  <PublicServer> <0DM> ive never been good with the scripts, but its what spikes thing said earlier:p
18:53:24  <PublicServer> <0DM> so hope i read it right
18:53:36  <planetmaker> @tunnels 7 2
18:53:36  <Webster> planetmaker: For Trainlength of 7: < 13 needs 2, 14 - 22 needs 3, 23 - 31 needs 4.
18:53:52  <PublicServer> <0DM> maybe that should be <= 13
18:57:54  <PublicServer> <0DM> i wonder what youll come up with:p
18:58:10  <PublicServer> <0DM> uh oh:D
18:58:28  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hehe
18:58:45  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> this scenario looks really good
18:58:50  <PublicServer> <0DM> might aswell undo the next bit aswell
18:58:57  <PublicServer> <0DM> if you doubled them anyway:)
18:59:14  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> looking forward to see it running
18:59:17  <PublicServer> <0DM> :)
18:59:21  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0002A133:
18:59:21  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> I'll take tunnels, ODM :-)
18:59:22  <PublicServer> <0DM> are you new here?
18:59:35  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> yeah
18:59:42  <PublicServer> <0DM> welcome then
18:59:49  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> not a total newbie
19:00:02  <PublicServer> <0DM> new to coop i meant
19:00:06  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> i come by here once in a while
19:00:36  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> to admire :)
19:00:53  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> didn't have time to play
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19:02:05  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> but this one looks really good and I finally know whats going on :P
19:02:09  <PublicServer> <0DM> hehe
19:02:17  <PublicServer> <0DM> its not that hard:p
19:02:33  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> got something easy to do ?
19:02:44  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> ODM: done, though w/o signals ;-)
19:02:53  <PublicServer> <0DM> everythings wo signals sofar anyway
19:03:00  <PublicServer> <0DM> heh you had to be "counter the wire"
19:03:16  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> he?
19:03:27  <PublicServer> <0DM> in dutch it is tegendraads
19:03:56  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> doesn't ring a bell
19:04:03  <PublicServer> <0DM> hm to bad
19:04:04  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> you mean it's different from the others?
19:04:17  <PublicServer> <0DM> dunno pirate:) generally people start with hooking up industries, and were not that far yet
19:04:18  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> tunnel on the wrong end?
19:04:19  <PublicServer> <0DM> yes
19:04:24  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> too bad :-P
19:04:31  <PublicServer> <0DM> i mean tunnelling one instead of bridging the other:D
19:05:00  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> after all I once built the tunnel-mania BBH ;-)
19:05:12  <PublicServer> <0DM> dont think i remember that
19:05:36  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> was before your time ;-)
19:05:52  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> what does sml stand for ?
19:05:53  <PublicServer> <0DM> i missed all the old stuff:(
19:05:56  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> I think I wasn't even member then
19:05:57  <PublicServer> <0DM> shift main line
19:06:02  <PublicServer> <0DM> you should look it up on the wiki
19:06:09  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> and it got re-built as it had quirks
19:07:54  <PublicServer> <0DM> there we go
19:09:01  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hm... looking at this I nearly feel like adding rail types support to 2cctrainset
19:09:14  <PublicServer> <0DM> why is that?
19:09:36  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> I would want to actually see it ingame ;-)
19:09:56  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> and it'd be interesting to have SLH with a different kind of rail. Just for fun
19:10:11  <PublicServer> <0DM> right:p
19:10:18  <PublicServer> <0DM> feel free to do it:D
19:10:53  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> yeah, I already reserved the ticket.
19:10:55  <mig> !password
19:10:55  <PublicServer> mig: coaxes
19:11:02  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> But then I have at least one open ticket with FIRS, too
19:11:15  <PublicServer> <0DM> and you didnt have time already:p
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19:11:18  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> The unlimited stockpiles for the farm, manufacturing and engineering supplies
19:13:12  <Osai> !password
19:13:12  <PublicServer> Osai: coaxes
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19:13:21  <Boyinblue0> brb guys dinner :)
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19:14:24  <PublicServer> <0DM> guess we should do some signalling
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19:20:49  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> outbound tracks signaled.
19:20:56  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> Incoming is some other person's job
19:20:57  <PublicServer> <0DM> nice
19:21:02  <PublicServer> <0DM> im working on that:p
19:21:08  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> we should not allow to build tracks w/o signals
19:21:14  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> it once used to be a rule
19:21:28  <PublicServer> <0DM> but it stopped?
19:21:31  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> and there's no point to skip them initially anyway
19:21:38  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> no, it didn't stop
19:21:44  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> But someone stopped doing it here ;-)
19:21:53  <PublicServer> <0DM> we got carried away:p
19:22:21  <PublicServer> <0DM> the last branch still misses some track, wanna add it?
19:22:38  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> i could do it
19:23:03  <PublicServer> <0DM> feel free to have a go
19:23:10  <PublicServer> <0DM> keep in mind where you should reduce the number of tracks
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19:25:09  <grim4593> !download win32
19:25:09  <PublicServer> grim4593:
19:26:07  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> done
19:26:22  <PublicServer> <0DM> stop on the inside;)
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19:27:21  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> better? :-P
19:27:35  <PublicServer> <0DM> no:P hehe
19:27:51  <PublicServer> <0DM> you plan ruiner!:P
19:27:58  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hehe
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19:29:03  <subzero> !download win64
19:29:04  <PublicServer> subzero:
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19:29:55  <PublicServer> <0DM> you know, ive been stupid:(
19:29:59  <grim4593> !password
19:29:59  <PublicServer> grim4593: gummed
19:30:11  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> I didn't know
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19:30:15  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> But if you tell me...
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19:30:24  <PublicServer> <0DM> i just spend alotof time lining up the signals
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19:30:29  <PublicServer> <0DM> but in sml, they shouldnt line up
19:31:03  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> he
19:31:25  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> I think it absolutely doesn't matter
19:31:34  <PublicServer> <0DM> it does
19:32:28  <PublicServer> <grim4593> i would not wnat to live in one of these cities that are completely built on top of train tunnels
19:32:45  <PublicServer> <0DM> afraid itd crash onto itself?
19:32:48  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hehe :-)
19:33:16  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> the ground would vibrate all the time :P
19:33:30  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> under this amount of traffic
19:33:42  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> and things like with the cologne municipal archive would happen all the time ;-)
19:34:02  <PublicServer> <grim4593> oh god. imagine living over the ML. lol
19:34:39  <PublicServer> <0DM> have you seen the drogezwaag churche?
19:34:44  <PublicServer> <grim4593> no
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19:42:41  <PublicServer> <0DM> somoene cant decide:p
19:42:52  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> nah, I had to try something ;-)
19:44:20  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hm, now, that's interesting for compatitive play: you can nearly minimize the money report - of every company
19:44:28  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0002C0A1:
19:44:36  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> there's a 3rd button in the title bar of the money window
19:45:53  <PublicServer> <grim4593> nice
19:46:07  <PublicServer> <0DM> fancy
19:46:30  <PublicServer> <0DM> is everything signalled now?
19:48:16  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> looks like it
19:48:38  <PublicServer> <0DM> woohoo
19:48:57  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> whats the next step ?
19:49:46  <PublicServer> <0DM> sidelines and a drop
19:50:49  <PublicServer> <0DM> im thinking of a decent design for the drop now
19:51:35  <PublicServer> <0DM> i think 4 seperate components, one for each branch
19:54:49  <PublicServer> <0DM> hmm default 2 stage wingdesign is a tad big with tl7
19:55:26  <PublicServer> <0DM> i am open for suggestions^^
19:55:53  <Boyinblue0> !password
19:55:53  <PublicServer> Boyinblue0: ratify
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19:57:35  <Boyinblue0> bbl guys going the gym :)
19:58:04  <PublicServer> <0DM> cya
19:58:07  <PublicServer> <0DM> how about this one?
19:59:18  <PublicServer> <0DM> aah people are away:p
19:59:22  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> intresting, but honestly i have no idea
19:59:30  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00035C68:
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20:02:03  <PublicServer> <0DM> if you zoom out, it looks quite impressive
20:02:24  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> did that already :P
20:02:46  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> how this 2nd desing work ?
20:02:54  <PublicServer> <0DM> which one?
20:03:17  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> the one with PBS at the entrance ?
20:04:25  <PublicServer> <0DM> right, trains will always find the shortest route to a platform, so theyll prefer platform 1, then 2, then 3
20:05:11  <PublicServer> <0DM> if i leave the bypass out, and a train goes for platform 3, it takes a while for the track to clear
20:05:20  <PublicServer> <0DM> so the train behind it has to stop, which we dislike:p
20:05:31  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> i know what u mean
20:06:01  <PublicServer> <0DM> so now if the first platforms are taken or unreachable, the next can go around
20:07:27  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> and the one-way PBS at the entrance is all that you put there ?
20:08:01  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> at the entrance i mean
20:08:13  <PublicServer> <0DM> yes
20:08:34  <PublicServer> <0DM> im generally not a fan though, and i hope the delay wont bother us
20:09:27  <PublicServer> <0DM> and wingdesign is good because you can stack it^^
20:09:37  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> i remeber there was a save at oppnttd wiki
20:10:09  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> it had a huge wing station
20:10:22  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> with block signals
20:10:37  <PublicServer> <0DM> i wonder what it was now
20:11:21  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> i've watched it for a while and it did jam once in a while
20:11:30  <PublicServer> <0DM> yup
20:11:46  <PublicServer> <0DM> thats why the 1st design has 2 stages, that way it wont jam
20:11:55  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> when 2 trains where really close one behind the other
20:12:08  <PublicServer> <0DM> yes
20:12:15  <PublicServer> <0DM> which is how we want our trains to be:p
20:12:24  <PublicServer> <0DM> i think this game will be quite mad
20:12:42  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> and this 2 stage fixes the issue ?
20:12:47  <KenjiE20> so... just another game then? :P
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20:13:05  <PublicServer> <0DM> it should fix it
20:13:14  <PublicServer> <0DM> want me to add the signals so you can see it?
20:13:22  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> no
20:13:31  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> i get the first one :)
20:14:32  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00034A6E:
20:15:37  <XeryusTC> !dl win64
20:15:37  <PublicServer> XeryusTC:
20:16:27  <XeryusTC> !password
20:16:27  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: potion
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20:17:03  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> dutchness :o
20:17:08  <PublicServer> <0DM> hey mate
20:17:35  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> bah, sml :s
20:17:50  <PublicServer> <0DM> whatever we do, someone will say bah:p
20:17:52  <PublicServer> <0DM> shouldve voted^^
20:18:06  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> wasn't here ;)
20:18:35  <PublicServer> <0DM> thats what they all say:p
20:18:46  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it happens to be true ;)
20:18:51  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i have a life
20:18:56  <PublicServer> <0DM> cough
20:19:01  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> which includes almost having an internet gf :P
20:19:09  <PublicServer> <0DM> say what now?:p
20:19:35  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it's true
20:19:48  <PublicServer> <0DM> is she swedish?
20:19:48  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i almost got myself a gf which i found over the internets
20:20:01  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> all i have to do now is to meet her again and properly ask her ;)
20:20:09  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> point is, she is very busy with school though :o
20:20:10  <PublicServer> <0DM> yeah that should do
20:20:52  <PublicServer> <0DM> wheres she from?
20:21:09  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> a village about 45 km away :P
20:21:16  <PublicServer> <0DM> ooh, thats like close
20:21:21  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i know
20:21:22  <PublicServer> <0DM> come back when she's from another country:p
20:21:35  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> 45 ?
20:21:38  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i met her via a dutchies only site :P
20:21:51  <PublicServer> <0DM> if you say hyves i will hit you with a stick:p
20:21:54  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> so basicly, i've met quite a few of the people on there :P
20:22:00  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i hate hyves :P
20:22:03  <PublicServer> <0DM> thanks
20:22:09  <PublicServer> <0DM> with that out of the way, good luck^^
20:22:14  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh right, forgot you're from over here too :P
20:22:27  <PublicServer> <0DM> utrecht woo!
20:22:46  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i might be visiting utrecht tomorrow, only CS though :P
20:23:00  <PublicServer> <0DM> that doesnt count
20:23:54  <PublicServer> <0DM> xeryus, what drop design would you go for?
20:24:00  <PublicServer> <0DM> ive done 2 suggestions on the SE island
20:24:22  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> something not as gay as that :P
20:24:31  <PublicServer> <0DM> :(
20:24:40  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> this is why i dislike sml
20:24:44  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> no inventiveness
20:24:51  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> you're a member ffs!
20:25:12  <PublicServer> <0DM> sigh
20:25:25  <PublicServer> <0DM> thanks for the positive messages:p
20:26:11  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yw
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20:27:02  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> scenario looks awesome, but i'll come back when there'll be something i can help with
20:27:04  <mitooo> !password
20:27:05  <PublicServer> mitooo: potion
20:27:11  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> bbl
20:27:15  <PublicServer> <0DM> cya
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20:37:01  <PublicServer> <0DM> lol, some pilot took off from the taxiway:O
20:37:35  <hylje> what
20:37:50  <hylje> his way of coping with a rush hour airport?
20:38:04  <PublicServer> <0DM> dunno:P took off from the taxiway parallel to the runway itself
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20:45:13  <sietse> !info\
20:45:17  <sietse> !info
20:45:17  <PublicServer> sietse: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'OTTDC BV'  Year Founded: 1950  Money: 124823530  Loan: 0  Value: 124871307  (T:4, R:0, P:7, S:0) unprotected
20:45:26  <sietse> !players
20:45:28  <PublicServer> sietse: Client 140 (Orange) is XeryusTC, in company 1 (OTTDC BV)
20:45:28  <PublicServer> sietse: Client 142 (Orange) is Mitooo, in company 1 (OTTDC BV)
20:45:28  <PublicServer> sietse: Client 80 (Orange) is jond1sti, in company 1 (OTTDC BV)
20:45:28  <PublicServer> sietse: Client 81 is Spike, a spectator
20:45:28  <PublicServer> sietse: Client 106 (Orange) is 0DM, in company 1 (OTTDC BV)
20:45:30  <PublicServer> sietse: Client 126 is planetm4ker, a spectator
20:46:12  <sietse> !password
20:46:12  <PublicServer> sietse: donkey
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20:46:18  <PublicServer> <Sietse> heya
20:46:22  <planetmaker> hm... many players and no one's building?
20:46:26  <PeterT> sietse: /msg PublicServer !players
20:46:36  <PublicServer> <Sietse> ?
20:46:37  <PublicServer> <0DM> i am pondering
20:46:39  <planetmaker> PeterT: rather not
20:46:57  <planetmaker> the only command better done in public ;-)
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20:47:15  <PeterT> Why?
20:47:49  <PeterT> Also, we have a bit of a problem
20:47:56  <planetmaker> then we know who joined ;-)
20:48:16  <PeterT> Mark's nick will be dropped if he doesn't join and identify
20:48:24  <planetmaker> it doesn't matter with the good guys...
20:48:38  <ODM> he protected his nick i believe
20:48:43  <planetmaker> oh... you said !players not !password ;-)
20:48:58  <planetmaker> nvm me talking, PeterT :-)
20:48:59  <PeterT> it can still be dropped
20:49:04  <ODM> he's getting old^^
20:49:18  <PublicServer> <Sietse> 16R, nice :)
20:50:17  <PublicServer> <0DM> ohno we have the traxx engine, but the NS 1600 is way nicer:P
20:50:29  <PublicServer> <Sietse> dutch trainset?
20:50:32  <PublicServer> <0DM> yes
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20:50:46  <PublicServer> <Sietse> dutch game :)
20:51:43  <PeterT> planetmaker / ODM:
20:51:53  <Fuco> when Mark's account is down, PeterT is planning overtake? :D
20:53:34  <mitooo> just saw the pastebin, looks like they need a no-bots thingie :)
20:54:04  <planetmaker> well... he'll be back in time :-)
20:54:17  <planetmaker> hopefully. But thx, PeterT
20:54:19  <PublicServer> <0DM> he cant survive that long without internet
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20:54:29  <planetmaker> ^ That's what I believe, too
20:54:46  <planetmaker> Though, granted, travelling like he does gets your internet addiction cured in no time
20:55:03  <planetmaker> If I'd have to bet upon his return... I'm not sure I should
20:55:27  <planetmaker> But the thing speaking in favour is him traveling with his Dutch girl friend. So ties to the home are not quite cut mentally
20:55:40  <planetmaker> blah blah laber rharbarber
20:55:44  <PublicServer> <0DM> aah i thought he was travelling alone
20:56:09  <planetmaker> I *think* he doesn't and he mentioned it in a half sentence. But I might have gotten it wrong
20:56:59  <PublicServer> <Sietse> that drop will be really complex
20:57:06  <PublicServer> <Sietse> 6 drops for each line....
20:57:19  <PublicServer> <0DM> no, youre reading a bit too much into it;)
20:57:39  <PublicServer> <0DM> its just a standard drop, but the platforms can be of different stations
20:57:54  <PublicServer> <Sietse> or just one stack of 6 platforms (each with a different sawmill?
20:57:57  <PublicServer> <Sietse> ok
20:58:07  <PeterT> It was all quite sudden, Mark leaving
20:58:26  <planetmaker> sietse: as it's basically 4*4 lines it's like 4 separate stations
20:58:42  <PublicServer> <0DM> or 16 seperate stations:p
20:58:43  <planetmaker> PeterT: he announced it way in advance :-)
20:58:43  <grim4593> !password
20:58:44  <PublicServer> grim4593: donkey
20:58:47  <PeterT> Really?
20:58:49  <PeterT> Hmm
20:58:52  <PublicServer> <0DM> he did
20:58:53  <PublicServer> <Sietse> with 6 platforms :)
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20:59:00  <planetmaker> He knew he'd do it at least a year ago
20:59:06  <PublicServer> <0DM> id go for 7 to be sure^^
20:59:18  <PublicServer> <Sietse> 7 sawmills?
20:59:19  * planetmaker agrees with ODM
20:59:23  <PublicServer> <0DM> no 7 platforms
20:59:32  <planetmaker> sietse: no, station tracks per incoming track
20:59:36  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00006508:
20:59:36  <PublicServer> <Sietse> why 7, 6 should be sufficient right?
20:59:44  <PublicServer> <0DM> i always thought 7
20:59:51  <planetmaker> It depends
20:59:57  <PublicServer> <Sietse> it ofc depends on TL
21:00:02  <planetmaker> ^
21:00:15  <PublicServer> <Sietse> but TL7
21:00:22  <PublicServer> <0DM> i guess longer = less platforms
21:00:23  <PublicServer> <Sietse> so you need less platforms I think
21:00:27  <PublicServer> <Sietse> ye
21:00:34  <PublicServer> <Sietse> I am thinking the same
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21:01:03  <planetmaker> But I'd like to advocate a nicer design than those platforms where there's not even braking space as proposed on the station spot
21:01:32  <Techinica> !download win64
21:01:33  <PublicServer> Techinica:
21:01:44  <PublicServer> <0DM> 3 tiles should be alright i think, though could lengthen it a bit
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21:01:50  <PublicServer> <0DM> feel free to add a station suggestion:)
21:01:59  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> also I find it plain ugly ;-)
21:02:02  <PublicServer> <Sietse> so 16x6 is 96 platforms ;)
21:02:34  <planetmaker> But then I think we can have several people build each of the 4 (sub-)stations
21:02:46  <PublicServer> <0DM> true
21:02:54  <planetmaker> @calc 4*7*4
21:02:54  <Webster> planetmaker: 112
21:03:00  <planetmaker> uh... many tracks ;-)
21:03:03  <planetmaker> @calc 4*6*4
21:03:03  <Webster> planetmaker: 96
21:03:08  <PublicServer> <0DM> yes many:p
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21:03:40  <PublicServer> <Sietse> but no mixing at all right?
21:03:51  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> I'd like to see a similar design to an oil drop tneo once built with perpendicular platforms and tunnels
21:04:07  <PublicServer> <0DM> hm?
21:04:08  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> Sietse: at least not between the 4 majore networks
21:04:11  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> the others can IMO
21:04:12  <PublicServer> <0DM> you sure thats not one of mine?
21:04:27  <PublicServer> <0DM> you can between 1 subset, but i really doubt it has any use at all
21:04:33  <PublicServer> <Sietse> that will only decrease effectiveness
21:05:06  <Techinica> !password
21:05:06  <PublicServer> Techinica: huddle
21:05:08  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> then the entry is sub-optimal
21:05:15  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> a good entry won't drop efficiency
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21:05:54  <PublicServer> <0DM> my point is, it comes from one line, it will fit back on one line, anything else just makes it more complicated
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21:06:37  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> the point is: you could save platforms when using mixing
21:06:48  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> unless all four lines are 100% loaded
21:06:53  <PublicServer> <Sietse> only if load allows you to :)
21:07:02  <PublicServer> <0DM> perhaps, but considering our goal i really doubt we will save much;)
21:07:11  <PublicServer> <0DM> i dare say we need more platforms later in the game
21:07:21  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> that I do have to concede :-)
21:07:25  <PublicServer> <0DM> hehe
21:07:33  <PublicServer> <Sietse> I don't have any idea for a more effecient design
21:08:08  <Boyinblue0> Back :)
21:08:10  <PublicServer> <0DM> wb
21:08:18  <PublicServer> <Sietse> heya
21:08:18  <Boyinblue0> <-- in agony :P
21:08:28  <PublicServer> <0DM> thats not good
21:08:29  <PublicServer> <Sietse> so we start building this bitch ass station?
21:08:49  <Boyinblue0> i know :P It's only a stitch 'coz i ran back but im gonna feel it tommoz :P
21:09:09  <Boyinblue0> i've only been the gym twice this year :(
21:09:27  <Boyinblue0> !password
21:09:27  <PublicServer> Boyinblue0: huddle
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21:10:18  <PublicServer> <0DM> what locos will we use?
21:10:39  <planetmaker> electrical :-P
21:10:53  <PublicServer> <Sietse> 4 tiles break / accel fine btw?
21:11:01  <PublicServer> <0DM> traxx or ns 1600
21:11:30  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> Sietse: you might want to start earlier... ah, nvm
21:11:53  <PublicServer> <Sietse> this is fine right?
21:11:58  <PublicServer> <Sietse> aah ok :)
21:12:10  <PublicServer> <0DM> it put the station a bit more north
21:12:21  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> nah, I think it's fine
21:12:42  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> though.... Might make sense, yes
21:12:50  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> we cannot put them all adjacent
21:12:57  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> we need to put them also behind eachother
21:13:38  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> and the current design makes that difficult ;-)
21:13:51  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> but you'll figure out a solution ;-)
21:13:55  <PublicServer> <0DM> 4 tiles accel and 4/5 decel should be fine
21:14:00  <PublicServer> <Sietse> they can stack later on
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21:15:17  <PublicServer> <0DM> that one will jam i think
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21:16:14  <PublicServer> <0DM> if trains are too close together
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21:16:28  <PublicServer> <Sietse> you think so?
21:16:35  <PublicServer> <0DM> yes
21:16:54  <PublicServer> <Sietse> what will cause that jam?
21:17:03  <PublicServer> <Sietse> because I don't see that.
21:17:23  <PublicServer> <0DM> a train driving to 5th platform will keep the signal red, so the train for 6th has to stop
21:17:26  <PublicServer> <0DM> that sortof stuff
21:17:35  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> use path signals.
21:17:40  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> nothing bad about that
21:17:47  <PublicServer> <0DM> that doesnt solve that problem...
21:17:54  <PublicServer> <Sietse> presignals would result in the same imo
21:18:00  <PublicServer> <0DM> it goes for both
21:18:05  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> yeah
21:18:14  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> only psb stations solve that :-)
21:18:23  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> or valshallah
21:18:30  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> but that one only partially
21:18:37  <PublicServer> <0DM> or the station design i gave earlier
21:18:42  <PublicServer> <0DM> which you kinda dismissed as ugly;)
21:18:51  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> uh... wasn't it the same?
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21:18:53  <PublicServer> <0DM> no
21:18:58  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> :-P
21:19:06  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> I thought so
21:19:27  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> what's the difference?
21:19:51  <PublicServer> <0DM> that
21:20:48  <PublicServer> <Sietse> that would solve that issue yes
21:21:06  <PublicServer> <Sietse> but that situation is no likely to occur imo ;)
21:21:13  <PublicServer> <Sietse> although you are perfectly right
21:21:20  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> ah, yes
21:21:20  <PublicServer> <0DM> it will definately occur:)
21:21:31  <PublicServer> <Sietse> ye, but it is highly unlikely
21:21:45  <PublicServer> <0DM> well, if we build 4 different designs, should be fun:)
21:21:51  <PublicServer> <0DM> we can actually compare designs here
21:21:52  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> still you could have trains block the entire thing, if it travels North on the Western lane
21:22:14  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> ODM: sounds like a good plan: let's stress test different designs
21:22:22  <PublicServer> <0DM> woohoo!
21:23:30  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hm, lastFM want's confirmation that I still listen :-P
21:23:37  <PublicServer> <0DM> how silly
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21:24:11  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> well... makes sense from their POV. It reduces traffic
21:24:22  <PublicServer> <0DM> guess so
21:24:26  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> if no one listens there's no point for traffic
21:24:27  <PublicServer> <Sietse> hehe
21:24:28  <PublicServer> <0DM> imc urious to your design now pm:p
21:24:40  <PublicServer> <Sietse> ye, go for it :)
21:24:47  <planetmaker> what? My design? ;-)
21:24:56  <PublicServer> <0DM> dont put down any platforms yet, that will be a bit more tricky to figure out
21:24:57  <PublicServer> <0DM> yes:p
21:25:04  <PublicServer> <0DM> you sounded very confident:D
21:25:31  <PublicServer> <0DM> sietse, why does the one line have 6 platforms only?:p
21:25:38  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> :-D
21:25:41  <PublicServer> <Sietse> what's the station spread? :)
21:25:45  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> 64
21:25:46  <PublicServer> <0DM> 64
21:25:57  <PublicServer> <Sietse> I thought we agreed on that, or not?
21:26:06  <PublicServer> <0DM> but try to be compact^^
21:26:14  <PublicServer> <0DM> well, one has 6, the other 3 have 7
21:26:17  <PublicServer> <0DM> so im confused:D
21:26:18  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> then why do you use 6 and 7?
21:26:20  <PublicServer> <grim4593> tow of them have 6
21:26:31  <PublicServer> <0DM> oh its 50/50
21:26:36  <PublicServer> <Sietse> I build only 2:)
21:26:54  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> shall be fine :-)
21:27:08  <PublicServer> <Sietse> but didn't we agree on 6?
21:27:21  <PublicServer> <0DM> i wouldnt know to be honest:O
21:27:32  <PublicServer> <Sietse> ooh, then probably not :)
21:27:39  <PublicServer> <0DM> we can always expand
21:27:50  <PublicServer> <Sietse> but mixed looks odd
21:28:32  <PublicServer> <0DM> 6 or 7 then?^^
21:28:51  <PublicServer> <Sietse> I would say 6 with this TL
21:28:59  <PublicServer> <Sietse> but I am a beginner :)
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21:30:45  <PublicServer> <0DM> im gonna build the third branch south of the forest, ok?:)
21:31:04  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> oh, ok
21:31:11  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> I might try psb up North then
21:31:23  <PublicServer> <0DM> theres plenty of space i think
21:31:34  <PublicServer> <Sietse> I wanted to stack
21:31:43  <PublicServer> <Sietse> but someone took the space
21:31:53  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> there's not as much space as sietse used ;-)
21:32:09  <PublicServer> <0DM> i dont know what you mean sietse:O
21:32:10  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> 12+14 = 30 hm.. yes there is
21:32:20  <PublicServer> <0DM> its all yours, so, change what you want:)
21:32:58  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> Sietse: don't worry about the tracks I moved. Move them again, if you feel like
21:33:05  <PublicServer> <0DM> indeed:)
21:33:07  <PublicServer> <0DM> coop woo!
21:33:14  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> it might actually make sense to keep not a sloped line of stations but a straight
21:33:51  <PublicServer> <Sietse> that was what I had in mind
21:33:59  <PublicServer> <Sietse> but we  might lack space for that
21:34:05  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> ok, do that first so that I know where my tracks go
21:34:20  <Razaekal> yay psb!
21:34:27  <Razaekal> but the CL is 7
21:34:40  <Razaekal> you need slope or it's gonna be huge
21:34:42  <PublicServer> <Sietse> have to go
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21:34:44  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> yeah :-)
21:34:45  <PublicServer> <Spike> and back...
21:34:47  <PublicServer> <Sietse> back in 45 min I tihkn
21:34:50  <PublicServer> <Sietse> think*
21:34:52  <PublicServer> <0DM> cya
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21:35:08  <PublicServer> <Sietse> just crush it if you wanna rebuild though :)
21:35:33  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hm...
21:35:55  <Razaekal> !password
21:35:55  <PublicServer> Razaekal: blinds
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21:37:59  <PublicServer> <0DM> unlucky missing letter there
21:38:56  <PublicServer> <0DM> hmm that does look huge:p
21:39:45  <PublicServer> <0DM> i can always scooch a bit if needed
21:41:26  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> instead of alternating tracks we should just use 4 blocks
21:41:38  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> a sawmill for each branch
21:42:07  <PublicServer> <0DM> thats probably gonna happen already
21:42:32  <PublicServer> <0DM> the split was mostly an example, to show you can have multiple stations on 1 line with the same order
21:42:34  <PublicServer> <0DM> atleast i think
21:43:12  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> no impressed
21:43:15  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> not
21:43:25  <PublicServer> <0DM> by?
21:43:33  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> the example
21:43:48  <PublicServer> <0DM> its fine, got the point across for me
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21:46:07  <PublicServer> <0DM> a PBS for each line?
21:47:31  <PublicServer> <0DM> hm thinking of making the decel 1 tile longer... decisions
21:48:17  <PublicServer> <0DM> do we have any volunteers for the fourth set?
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21:50:53  <grim4593> !password
21:50:53  <PublicServer> grim4593: hockey
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21:52:01  <PublicServer> <0DM> i will admit yours looks way more impressive
21:52:41  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> someone helped me :-)
21:52:47  <PublicServer> * Razaekel waves
21:52:50  <PublicServer> <0DM> how kind
21:52:53  <PublicServer> * planetm4ker waves back
21:53:02  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> i've had to squeeze it into that much space before
21:53:18  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> the normal way of doing it takes up too much spave
21:53:24  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> space
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21:54:16  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> do you have a more compact form, Razaekel?
21:54:31  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> cant get it any more compact than that, pretty much
21:54:48  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> ok, then we build it again :-)
21:54:56  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> but
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21:55:06  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> you CAN do 4 track entry
21:55:11  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> instead of split 2 track
21:55:28  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hm. True
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21:55:37  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> But that's not much gain either.
21:55:46  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> But it might give accel and brake space
21:55:56  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> maybe
21:56:02  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> if that forest doesnt get in the way
21:56:05  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hm...
21:56:11  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> re-do it?
21:56:21  <PublicServer> <0DM> that forest has to die soon, 33 tonnes
21:56:42  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> no, we cant do it
21:56:53  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> the space atm only lets 3 tracks in
21:57:02  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> then we carry on
21:57:26  <PublicServer> <0DM> or assume the forest dies soon, and build everything besides that little bit?
21:57:43  <PublicServer> <0DM> 0 tonnes of wood now
21:58:04  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> possible
21:59:33  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> hmph
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22:00:02  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> pm
22:00:05  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> no space
22:00:06  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hm?
22:00:27  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hm, more needed?
22:00:37  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> yea
22:00:41  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> one tile shift E
22:00:46  <PublicServer> <0DM> uh oh:p
22:00:58  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> ah
22:04:37  <PublicServer> <0DM> the forest doesnt want to die
22:04:50  <PublicServer> <Spike> almost!
22:05:13  <PublicServer> <0DM> it was almost before
22:05:15  <Boyinblue0> brb guys skins is on :)
22:05:18  <PublicServer> <0DM> also, spike is back:p
22:05:29  <PublicServer> <Mitooo> it's more difficult to die than sawmills for example
22:05:46  <PublicServer> <0DM> because its primary?
22:05:51  <PublicServer> <Mitooo> yeah
22:06:01  <PublicServer> <0DM> it kinda has to go down 2 months in a row right?
22:06:28  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> pbs pathing done
22:06:39  <PublicServer> <Mitooo> dunno; i said that by past experience
22:06:49  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> psb, Razaekel;-)
22:06:54  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> whoops
22:06:57  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> psb!
22:07:06  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> nice & thanks :-)
22:07:11  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> np
22:07:12  <PublicServer> <0DM> looks good
22:07:14  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> i love psb
22:07:15  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> we should sign it
22:07:21  <PublicServer> * planetm4ker also loves psb
22:07:40  <PublicServer> <Mitooo> what is psb?
22:07:46  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> pre-signal bypass
22:07:49  <PublicServer> <0DM> presginal bypass
22:07:53  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> that station Razaekel and myself just built
22:08:02  <PublicServer> <0DM> what he said
22:08:05  <^Spike^> ODM i only was back half an hour or so:
22:08:06  <^Spike^> (22:34:49) (+PublicServer) <Spike> and back...
22:08:16  <^Spike^> good you notice it in time.. ;)
22:08:17  <PublicServer> <Mitooo> quite complex :p
22:08:19  <PublicServer> <0DM> oh, i missed that
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22:10:41  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> wtf
22:10:46  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> forest is alive again
22:10:47  <PublicServer> <0DM> hm about the sawmill positions, do you keep expansion in mind?
22:11:01  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> not really
22:11:18  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> they're just suggestions
22:11:21  <PublicServer> <0DM> ok:)
22:11:47  <PublicServer> <Mitooo> the forest plays  yo-yo :p
22:11:56  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> Razaekel: look at !here
22:12:01  <PublicServer> <0DM> it does, strangely enough
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22:12:15  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> the combo could be the entry straight away, couldn't it?
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22:12:45  <Razaekal> no
22:12:50  <PublicServer> <Mitooo> ...and back to 33 :D
22:12:53  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hm... yes
22:13:04  <Razaekal> i've done it like what you're suggesting before
22:13:16  <Razaekal> and it caused problems
22:13:54  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> well
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22:14:15  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> ok, i can make it better
22:14:28  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> :-O
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22:15:57  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> that'll work
22:16:01  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> yep
22:16:12  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> and let's make it an entry :-)
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22:19:42  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hm... I propose to move the stations of tracks #1
22:19:54  <PublicServer> <0DM> to?
22:20:15  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> rotate 90° and closer to the current stations from you and me
22:20:38  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> or you want to make really 4 separate stations? That'd be boring.
22:20:41  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> why 6 plats per line?
22:20:50  <PublicServer> <0DM> that would work i guess
22:20:55  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> 7 plats is better
22:21:20  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> and I'd consider moving E your Southern most stations
22:21:33  <PublicServer> <0DM> so they line up?
22:21:38  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> yeah
22:21:42  <PublicServer> <0DM> could do
22:21:49  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> it reaches with ours the 64 tile limit
22:21:57  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> and I aligned on your station ;-)
22:22:04  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> the rist one that is
22:22:09  <PublicServer> <0DM> :P
22:22:19  <PublicServer> <0DM> dont worry about the spread too much^^
22:22:28  <PublicServer> <0DM> but yeah could move it E about 5 tiles
22:22:31  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> well. It's 63 or 64 now
22:22:44  <PublicServer> <0DM> it really wont be one station
22:22:46  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> I'd suggest 12
22:22:47  <Razaekal> 4 seperate stations, 4 seperate sawmills
22:23:10  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> Razaekel: no, one big :-)
22:23:15  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> way more fun ;-)
22:23:20  <PublicServer> <0DM> that doesnt work.
22:23:31  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> why not?
22:23:37  <PublicServer> <0DM> we're playing boost
22:23:44  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> yes, but one station works
22:23:49  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> just not one saw mill
22:23:54  <PublicServer> <0DM> no, it does not
22:24:12  <PublicServer> <0DM> one station can only deliver to one accepting industry
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22:24:29  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> uhm... ? No
22:24:36  <PublicServer> <0DM> yes
22:24:39  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> Or was that only with PBI?
22:24:50  <PublicServer> <0DM> it definately isnt in default
22:24:53  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> I recall there one station delivering to sawmills all over the map
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22:25:37  <Razaekal> besides, the point of boost is to max production iirc
22:25:45  <Razaekal> so we'll need more sawmills anyway
22:25:55  <PublicServer> <0DM> the discussion wasnt really bout the sawmills:p
22:26:06  <Razaekal> i know
22:26:12  <Razaekal> er
22:26:14  <Razaekal> no i dont
22:26:16  <Razaekal> >.>
22:26:26  <Razaekal> 4 seperate stations >.>
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22:27:49  <PublicServer> <Sietse> how to order unload btw?
22:27:54  <PublicServer> <0DM> dont
22:27:58  <planetmaker> ^
22:28:04  <PublicServer> <0DM> you order entry and exit waypoint
22:28:09  <PublicServer> <0DM> make sure exit waypoint isnt non stop
22:28:19  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> waypoints?
22:28:21  <PublicServer> <Sietse> ok
22:28:24  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> why would we do that?
22:28:29  <PublicServer> <0DM> well, technically theyre stations
22:28:36  <PublicServer> <Sietse> they're named waypoint
22:28:39  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> still... why?
22:28:40  <PublicServer> <Sietse> late...
22:29:01  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> plan says so
22:29:10  <PublicServer> <0DM> so we dont have to order an individual drop
22:29:28  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> orders: goto pickup, full load, goto entry wp nonstop, gotoexit wp
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22:30:36  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hm, right.
22:30:53  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> But I better bugger off to bed before I fall asleep on my laptop
22:30:59  <PublicServer> <0DM> goodnight mate
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22:31:24  <planetmaker> have a good night all of you :-) Was fun playing again :-)
22:31:50  <PublicServer> <0DM> indeed:)
22:31:54  <PublicServer> <Sietse> bye bye
22:32:12  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> replaced the station with a waypoint
22:32:41  <PublicServer> <Spike> who is creating that SLH?
22:32:45  <PublicServer> <0DM> me
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22:32:52  <PublicServer> <Spike> wtf are you doing?
22:32:55  <PublicServer> <0DM> building?
22:32:57  <PublicServer> <Spike> oh wait
22:33:00  <PublicServer> <Spike> i said nothing..
22:33:04  <PublicServer> <Spike> thought other way around :)
22:33:05  <PublicServer> <0DM> yes you did:(
22:33:21  <PublicServer> <0DM> sneaky hobbitses
22:33:26  <PublicServer> <Spike> i'm very subtle in my words.. ;)
22:33:33  <PublicServer> <0DM> i tried to exit on the inside, but it didnt fit corner wise
22:34:22  <PublicServer> <0DM> ahyeah forgot the penalties
22:35:46  <PublicServer> <0DM> that should do
22:37:50  <PublicServer> <0DM> hm why is there a big arrow next to my station:p
22:39:52  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> waypoints done
22:41:20  <PublicServer> <Sietse> anyone should build the last 4 arrays
22:41:52  <PublicServer> <Sietse> so we can add sawmills
22:43:35  <PublicServer> <Spike> Sietse: what is stopping you? :)
22:43:50  <PublicServer> <Sietse> I've built one already
22:44:50  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0002E230:
22:45:52  <PublicServer> <Sietse> someone tweaking the arrow :)
22:46:05  <PublicServer> <0DM> well im gonna sleep
22:46:06  <PublicServer> <0DM> goodnight
22:46:11  <PublicServer> <Sietse> night ODM
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22:47:55  <Sander_Buruma> !download
22:47:55  <PublicServer> Sander_Buruma: !download autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x
22:48:30  <PublicServer> <Spike> there.. arrow.. :)
22:48:35  <Sander_Buruma> !download win32
22:48:35  <PublicServer> Sander_Buruma:
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22:48:44  <PublicServer> <Spike> all rounded corners.. don't :)
22:48:59  <PublicServer> <Sietse> lol
22:49:10  <PublicServer> <Sietse> the arrow somehow pointing to ODM's masterpiece :)
22:49:10  <PublicServer> <Spike> time for me to go to bed aswell actually :)
22:49:27  <PublicServer> <Sietse> night
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22:49:45  <PublicServer> <grim4593> could put a train on the arrow :P
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22:50:04  <PublicServer> <Sietse> go ahead :)
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22:59:52  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 000301E2:
23:00:38  <Sander_Buruma> !password
23:00:38  <PublicServer> Sander_Buruma: miming
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23:05:53  <PublicServer> <Sietse> anyone here?
23:06:12  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> Yes
23:07:18  <PublicServer> <Sietse> I have some trains misbehaving.......
23:07:30  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> what do you mean
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23:07:43  <PublicServer> <Sietse> there
23:07:44  <PublicServer> <Sietse> ya
23:07:47  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> ok
23:07:57  <PublicServer> <Sietse> they should be forced to take the other path right?
23:08:02  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> what do you want them to do
23:08:20  <PublicServer> <Sietse> choosing the other path is available
23:08:54  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> lemme try something
23:09:11  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> you made it work
23:09:13  <PublicServer> <Combuster> hmm
23:09:26  <PublicServer> <Combuster> whoever completed the 4th ML didn't read the plan
23:11:30  <PublicServer> <Sietse> what's wrong?
23:11:36  <PublicServer> <Sietse> although I am not guilty ;-)
23:11:56  <PublicServer> <Combuster> just fixed it
23:12:14  <PublicServer> <Combuster> but the added tracks were shifted inwards
23:12:24  <PublicServer> <Combuster> instead of increasing the gap in the middle
23:12:48  <PublicServer> <Sietse> where?
23:13:03  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Noord Heerhugsend
23:13:15  <PublicServer> <Combuster> the bulldozed tiles are best visible there
23:13:52  <PublicServer> <Sietse> aah ok
23:14:54  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00033DEE:
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23:29:56  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00030B86:
23:37:46  <Guest1734> !password
23:37:46  <PublicServer> Guest1734: paddle
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23:44:58  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0002BB51:
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23:48:02  <gr00vy> !password
23:48:02  <PublicServer> gr00vy: cobble
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23:52:58  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> crazy island :)
23:55:14  <grim4593> !password
23:55:15  <PublicServer> grim4593: cobble
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23:55:27  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> how can i see who is ingame actually?
23:56:13  <PublicServer> <Combuster> hold the top hat button in the menu
23:56:28  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ah thx
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