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Log for #openttdcoop on 21st February 2010:
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00:00:13  <PublicServer> <Combuster> As someone who gets a near 2x performance on his dualcore. multithreading is func :)
00:00:16  <PublicServer> <Combuster> *fun
00:00:36  <OwenS> Fun for user, yes. Fun for programmer, hell no.
00:00:50  <OwenS> Also, it would help if multithreaded OpenGL worked >_<
00:00:56  <PublicServer> <Combuster> besides, I get annoyed by the server kicking all client's (...)s
00:01:10  <KenjiE20> thenin lies the problem
00:01:13  <KenjiE20> therein*
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00:02:17  <OwenS> Multithreaded OpenGL works on nVIDIA cards, Intel cards on Linux, and nowhere else...
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00:03:31  <Combuster> OpenGL has too much state
00:03:54  <Combuster> and projective rendering has little to optimize of itself
00:04:09  <Combuster> too many cross-dependencies
00:04:28  <OwenS> I'm not actually sharing state. OpenGL is explicitly single threaded within a context
00:04:37  <Combuster> now, if hardware started to do native raytracing... :)
00:04:55  <OwenS> It would be slow and shiny, but unrelaistically shiny
00:05:22  <Combuster> I have a program that can do realtime raytracing
00:05:25  <OwenS> But, you can create a second context which shares resources, which is useful for doing stuff like preparing resources in the background. Except nobody but nVIDIA and MESA actually implement it so that it works - in spite of the fact they say they support it!
00:05:28  <Combuster> without GPU use
00:05:33  <OwenS> Combuster: At what resolution and complexity?
00:05:57  <Combuster> my laptop's native resolution
00:06:00  <Combuster> some 300 objects
00:06:47  <OwenS> While my (now aging) GPU can push 8000 probably more complex objects (And thats me hitting the CPU brick wall, not GPU), while running thousands of lines of shaders...
00:08:30  <Combuster> oh well
00:08:34  <Combuster> I'm off to bed
00:08:35  <gr00vy> !password
00:08:35  <PublicServer> gr00vy: abuser
00:08:36  <Combuster> 'night all
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00:08:43  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> should i build prios on BBH ?
00:08:47  <PublicServer> <Owen> Yes
00:08:54  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> same lenght ?
00:09:00  <PublicServer> <Owen> Yeah
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00:09:11  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hiho
00:09:21  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> how long should prios be for TL5?
00:09:35  <PublicServer> <Combuster> TL5 is not mainline...
00:09:42  <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> no in general
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00:10:34  <gr00vy> combuster?
00:10:42  <Combuster> not enough information
00:10:47  <gr00vy> i mean in general
00:10:52  <Combuster> TL+2 is the absolute minimum
00:11:03  <Combuster> the real length depends on a ton of factors
00:11:14  <gr00vy> so
00:11:18  <gr00vy> for example
00:11:27  * Combuster left
00:11:28  <gr00vy> using the re460 from 2cc set @ 210 km/h
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00:13:28  <OwenS> gr00vy: Count how many tiles it takes a train to accelerate from rest. Thats how long
00:14:15  <gr00vy> hm ok
00:14:16  <gr00vy> thx
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00:19:54  <PublicServer> <Sietse> how long prios we need?
00:20:04  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> i made 26
00:20:12  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> hoping that's enough
00:20:17  <PublicServer> <Sietse> that's huge
00:20:18  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> with posibility to extend to 34
00:20:23  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> and ythat's preaccelerated
00:20:41  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> 20 is enough i think
00:20:47  <Jorl17> !password
00:20:47  <PublicServer> Jorl17: inners
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00:20:58  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> Hello!
00:21:03  <V453000> hi
00:21:06  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> at least i think someone told me to build 20
00:21:11  <V453000> imo 20 is enough with accelerated
00:21:32  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> Can anyone get the watch_company patch to effectively work?
00:21:38  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> I mean, selecting someone?
00:22:25  <PublicServer> <ed__> can someone review BBH07 before i connect it?
00:24:50  <V453000> !password
00:24:50  <PublicServer> V453000: inners
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00:25:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> ello
00:25:08  <PublicServer> <Peter> why is pause on join on?
00:25:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> any job for me? :)
00:25:15  <PublicServer> <Peter> V453000: Be cool.
00:25:24  <PublicServer> <Peter> V453000: Oh wait, can you disable pause_on_join?
00:25:28  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> V453000: pick a town and pimp it
00:25:33  <PublicServer> <Peter> V453000: !rcon set pause_on_join off
00:25:50  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> V453000: do that either in con or in chan
00:26:01  <V453000> !rcon set pause_on_join off
00:26:14  <V453000> did it work?
00:26:16  <V453000> :D
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00:26:34  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> hold on, I'm gouing to quit to change openttd's source a bit, and fix watch_gui
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00:26:59  <PublicServer> <Peter> Jorl17: Can you send me a patch?
00:27:05  <PeterT> or tell me what you did
00:27:11  <Jorl17> If I manage to do it, I'll send it.
00:27:12  <PeterT> also, I'm about to add filter sign list
00:27:28  <Jorl17> For now, I'm going to try and bring back the console command, that should get it started.
00:27:36  <PeterT> @seen Chris_Booth
00:27:36  <Webster> PeterT: Chris_Booth was last seen in #openttdcoop 2 hours, 39 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: <Chris_Booth> Combuster: that doesnt answer my quesetion, i asked if you could wait until PZ 12 is finished
00:28:11  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00035F1C: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00035F1C.png
00:29:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> Flonnley free for mey?
00:30:06  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> sure
00:30:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> koool
00:30:22  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> could someone take a look at BBH 05 and 06
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00:30:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think the prios are short
00:31:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> otherwise k
00:31:04  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> where ?
00:31:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> at 05
00:31:12  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> sign it
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00:31:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> ?
00:31:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> prios
00:31:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> all
00:31:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> but keep it
00:33:17  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> i'll be on my way
00:33:23  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> see ya guys
00:33:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> cya later
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00:33:38  <PublicServer> <Peter> who build fortbardstone?
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00:34:09  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> game engine?
00:34:13  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> at map generation
00:34:32  <PublicServer> <Peter> Sorry, Fort Bardstone West
00:34:46  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> no idea
00:34:47  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> why?
00:34:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> o_O
00:34:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> just see Phazor
00:35:26  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> the bridge
00:35:37  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> and its RL not LR
00:38:03  <OwenS> !password
00:38:03  <PublicServer> OwenS: lanced
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00:38:25  <PublicServer> <Peter> Owen: for the future, prios are 20 tl
00:38:38  <PublicServer> <Owen> ACK
00:39:25  <PublicServer> <Peter> ACK?
00:39:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> acknowledged I would guess
00:39:47  <PublicServer> <Peter> k
00:39:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> but never heard that
00:40:13  <PublicServer> <Peter> I'm adding all current clients to builder's board
00:40:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> kk
00:40:18  <PublicServer> <Owen> Sorry, too much time working with network protocols :p
00:40:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> thx Peter
00:40:32  <PublicServer> <Peter> yes
00:40:36  <PublicServer> <Peter> welcome
00:40:40  <PublicServer> <ed__> i need help for BBH08. i need some ideas on how to join the two together
00:41:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> I am there ed
00:41:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> whats going on
00:41:21  <PublicServer> <ed__> i'm running into CL constraints
00:41:54  <PublicServer> <Peter> the cl is only 6
00:42:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> this is better longer - good so a train can wait there
00:42:13  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> prospecting some fruit and farm
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00:42:26  <PublicServer> <Peter> right.
00:42:49  <PublicServer> <ed__> oh i see, that makes more sense
00:42:51  <Jorl17> what does cl stand for?
00:42:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> ;)
00:43:13  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0003C66F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003C66F.png
00:43:18  <PeterT> @define CL
00:43:19  <PublicServer> <ed__> curve length, i've learned
00:43:30  <Jorl17> @wiki cl
00:43:32  <Webster> Search results for "cl" - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Special:Search?go=Go&search=cl
00:43:36  <PeterT> KenjiE20: @define not working
00:43:42  <KenjiE20> @cl
00:43:42  <Webster> cl: Curve Length, mostly used to describe how big a curve must be to let pass trains with a certain TL at full speed, see also: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Max_Curve_Speed
00:43:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> i made a CL solution there
00:43:46  <KenjiE20> easier ^
00:43:48  <Jorl17> ooooooooooh, thanks!
00:43:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> just connect it :)
00:44:00  <KenjiE20> @glossary
00:44:00  <Webster> KenjiE20: Available definitions: 2cc, ap, avignon, b2b, bananas, bbh, cl, coop, distantjoin, ecs, firs, h2h, ice, is2, isr, lb, ll, ml, mm, msh, nars, pax, pbs, pf, prio, ps, psb, psg, pz, pzg, roro, rv, sc, setdef, sl, slh, sml, srnw, stationwalking, tf, tgv, tl, tmd, ttt, wwottdgd, yapf, and yapp
00:44:02  <KenjiE20> ^ Jorl17
00:44:06  <PublicServer> <ed__> by adding 2 more bridges that helps?
00:44:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
00:44:11  <KenjiE20> in /query if you don't mind :)
00:44:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> see this
00:44:13  <PeterT> @glossary cl
00:44:13  <Webster> PeterT: Available definitions: 2cc, ap, avignon, b2b, bananas, bbh, cl, coop, distantjoin, ecs, firs, h2h, ice, is2, isr, lb, ll, ml, mm, msh, nars, pax, pbs, pf, prio, ps, psb, psg, pz, pzg, roro, rv, sc, setdef, sl, slh, sml, srnw, stationwalking, tf, tgv, tl, tmd, ttt, wwottdgd, yapf, and yapp
00:44:20  <PeterT> @define cl
00:44:23  <Jorl17> nice, thanks!
00:44:25  <KenjiE20> PeterT: what, did you think it would change?
00:44:26  <PublicServer> <ed__> oh, hahaha
00:44:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> I just wanted you to see the difference
00:44:42  <PeterT> KenjiE20: I thought it took arguments to define things
00:44:47  <KenjiE20> no
00:45:00  <KenjiE20> @help glossary
00:45:00  <Webster> KenjiE20: (glossary <no arguments>) -- Returns a list of defined lookup words
00:45:03  <KenjiE20> See
00:45:09  <PeterT> Ok, I beleived you before
00:45:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh
00:45:23  <PeterT> So, what is the command to define?
00:45:29  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> i gotta go... would be nice if someone could arrange a bit more food @ Dreston FPP
00:45:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> bye Phazorx
00:45:37  <KenjiE20> yes, well I'm demonstrating how you're supposed to figure out how things work
00:47:12  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> Peter
00:47:17  <PublicServer> <Peter> yes
00:47:23  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> you broke MSH06 entry
00:47:24  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> plz revert
00:47:42  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> signals were omitted on purpose
00:47:48  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> to avoid train queuing
00:48:21  <PublicServer> <Peter> It's fixed
00:48:38  <PublicServer> <Peter> Right
00:48:58  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> see why?
00:49:10  <PublicServer> <Peter> I do now
00:49:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> this way will solve it
00:49:53  <PublicServer> <ed__> that makes a lot of sense!
00:50:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> how much do we rely on sync? I say it doenst matter much as gaps between trains are going to be long
00:50:23  <PublicServer> <Peter> someone forgot presigs @
00:50:27  <PublicServer> <Peter> sedinghall north
00:50:35  <Jorl17> do any of you actively code in OpenTTD?
00:50:38  <PublicServer> <Peter> fixed
00:50:47  <PeterT> Jorl17: that would be #openttd
00:51:09  <Jorl17> Well, ok, thanks, I seem to have found misleading information in the wiki. I'll just go around it.
00:51:19  <Jorl17> and correct it, if I confirm it.
00:52:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> if you needed any further help, just ask :)
00:52:20  <PublicServer> <ed__> thx!
00:52:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> np
00:52:51  <KenjiE20> Jorl17: A good chunk of the wiki is still "in Review"
00:53:00  <PeterT> Jorl17: What kind of misleading info?
00:53:05  <KenjiE20> while not wrong pre se, take some of it with a pinch of salt
00:53:09  <KenjiE20> per*
00:53:36  <PublicServer> <Owen> The SML page has some sections which are ~3 years old :p
00:53:48  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> heh
00:53:52  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> been while
00:54:01  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> anyway gotta go :)
00:54:02  <KenjiE20> It's still mostly the old Research page
00:54:03  <PublicServer> <Owen> Indeed. I barely remember doing that writeup :p
00:54:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> the SML has 2 parts now, doesnt it
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00:54:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> I wrote one ... the new
00:54:24  <PublicServer> <Owen> It has SML, and SML(Research), with SML containing a duplication of all of research's content
00:54:25  <KenjiE20> V453000: it still has all the old Research section stuff
00:54:34  <V453000> yes
00:54:41  <KenjiE20> which as Owen points out, can now be removed
00:54:43  <Jorl17> Oh well, it seems that CompanyID is a Uint8, while it isn't.
00:54:48  <V453000> yes
00:54:55  <Jorl17> Its an enum, which of course will probably default to a byte
00:54:55  <KenjiE20> to make way for an explanation article
00:55:00  <PublicServer> <Peter> yeah
00:55:46  <OwenS> GCC enums are always ints unless bigger is needed
00:56:29  <Jorl17> True, but given the fact that the wiki stated it as being a Uint8, I felt really tempted to resort to experimental assigning. I tried to assign it 1 or 2, for instance.
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00:56:39  <Jorl17> Which the enum promptly rejected while sending me to hell.
00:56:51  <Jorl17> That's because I didn't know it was an enum ;)
00:57:01  <OwenS> It's probably an uint8 when serialized
00:57:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> anyone tested the train acceleration trail length?
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00:58:31  <V453000> !password
00:58:31  <PublicServer> V453000: barber
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00:59:06  <Jorl17> !password
00:59:06  <PublicServer> Jorl17: barber
01:00:27  <PublicServer> <Peter> that's a clever little tool at farnwell date plantation
01:00:59  <PeterT> !screen
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01:01:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> title tool?
01:02:25  <PublicServer> <Peter> title tool?
01:02:31  <V453000> ...
01:02:41  <V453000> <Peter> that's a clever little tool at farnwell date plantation
01:03:17  <PublicServer> <Peter> yeah?
01:03:27  <PublicServer> <Peter> it's called title tool?
01:03:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> but what :D
01:07:24  <Jorl17> Well, I have no clue as to why the patch doesn't work, I'm not that experienced with OpenTTD's innings. So I defaulted it to watching the first company when openned from the toolbar.
01:07:42  <Jorl17> One thing is for sure, clicking events are being processed.
01:07:58  <Jorl17> !password
01:07:58  <PublicServer> Jorl17: barber
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01:08:26  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> Ahah, so now it works! There's just too many people doing things!
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01:09:33  <PeterT> Ahh
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01:10:38  <Jorl17> got it, I think I found the bug
01:11:00  <Jorl17> virtual void 	OnClick (Point pt, int widget, int click_count) is the correct definition, but the patch does not include the last argument.
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01:13:50  <Jorl17> Yeah, fixed it!
01:14:07  <Jorl17> Does anybody want a fixed diff?
01:14:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> ?
01:14:31  <Jorl17> For the watch_company patch.
01:14:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> what does that do?
01:15:02  <Jorl17> The patch or my fix?
01:15:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> the watch company
01:15:25  <KenjiE20> I'm omnipotent, so no
01:15:27  <KenjiE20> :P
01:15:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
01:15:36  <PeterT> Jorl17: can I get a diff of just the fix?
01:15:47  <PeterT> @dict omnipotent
01:15:48  <Webster> PeterT: wn: omnipotent adj : having unlimited power [syn: {almighty}, {all-powerful}]
01:15:54  <PeterT> Oh, lol
01:15:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> :d
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01:16:07  <PeterT> then, omnipotent == SROTU
01:16:09  <Jorl17> it's a patch made by muxi that centers the screen on the last action that a company did, allowing one to follow them
01:16:18  <Jorl17> PeterT, sure, let me just get it for you.
01:16:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> srotu? Self Regulating Tycoon Universe?
01:16:33  <PeterT> Jorl17: paste.openttd.org <-- Paste it here
01:16:44  <PeterT> V453000: Supreme ruler of the universe
01:16:47  <PeterT> like owen rudge
01:16:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> ohhh
01:16:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> gosu
01:17:47  <PeterT> Jorl17: I'm compiling right now
01:17:57  <PeterT> would be a great time for a diff
01:18:16  <Jorl17> well, I'm having a bit of a trouble getting it for you :S I'm not that "diff" experienced
01:18:22  <Jorl17> Anyway, it's just a two line fix
01:18:40  <PeterT> svn diff > watchfix.diff
01:18:53  <Jorl17> Yes, but that outputs even the applied one
01:19:02  <PeterT> Well, just tell me what you changed?
01:19:47  <Jorl17> sure. watch_gui.h line 40 becomes virtual void OnClick(Point pt, int widget, int click_count);
01:19:48  <Jorl17> and
01:20:13  <Jorl17> watch_gui.cpp:253 becomes void WatchCompany::OnClick(Point pt, int widget, int click_count)
01:21:17  <KenjiE20> there's experiance involved with diff?
01:21:58  <Jorl17> Hehe, well I applied the patch, and then changed it. Now I wanted a diff of what I did. There probably is an svn command to apply our changes to our local branch, but I'm more experienced with git.
01:22:14  * PeterT is now listening to: Linkin Park  New Divide
01:22:35  <Jorl17> Originally, I thought of diffing the two diffs (original vs new), but that didn't work since svn didn't output the changes in the same order.
01:25:30  <PeterT> Jorl17: You could do svn diff > beforechange.diff, the svn diff > afterchange.diff, then diff then online
01:25:34  <PeterT> via pastebin or something
01:26:22  <Jorl17> diffing both outputs? before diff and after diff?
01:26:38  <Jorl17> But that's basically diff originalpatch originalpatch_plus_changes
01:26:58  <Jorl17> which I tried ^^ but my svn outputed the changes to originalpatch_plus_changes in a different order
01:27:08  <Jorl17> --suppress-common-lines also didn't work
01:27:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh ungrouped TGV? :(
01:28:19  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 000393EE: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000393EE.png
01:28:52  <Jorl17> oh well anyway, I've got it working, in the next week (during it) I'll try to join you, with my utterly incompetent skills ;)
01:29:17  <PeterT> if you want, you can also add filter sign list
01:29:22  <PeterT> it applies cleanly
01:29:26  <PeterT> with a bit of fuzz
01:29:33  <PeterT> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/3472/getfile/5264/filter_sign_list33_part1and2_r18696.patch
01:29:51  <Jorl17> Oh, what does it do?
01:30:34  <PeterT> getting forum topic
01:30:40  <PeterT> Jorl17: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=38715
01:30:42  <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums • View topic - [Patch] Filter Sign List (by typing a filter string) (at www.tt-forums.net)
01:31:08  <Jorl17> right, FS#3472
01:31:10  <Jorl17> ok, thanks
01:31:17  <PeterT> welcome
01:31:30  <PeterT> I have a diff for watch+fix, filter sign list, newgrf gui
01:31:51  <Ammler> @kick patchbot
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01:32:28  <Jorl17> alright, maybe you should upload it to openttdcoop.org
01:32:41  <Jorl17> anyway, I need to leave, 1:32 AM down here in Portugal ^^
01:32:45  <Jorl17> Thanks, once again, cya.
01:33:07  <PeterT> bye
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01:41:08  <PeterT> Can I join twice as spectator?
01:41:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> why would you do that?
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01:41:48  <PeterT> Because i just compiled this patched build, and I want to test it
01:42:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think there is nothing bad if you do it then
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01:52:54  <PublicServer> <Peter #1> who is that buildin?
01:53:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> "that this" ?
01:53:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> prob me
01:53:14  <PublicServer> <Peter #1> prob?
01:53:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> probably
01:53:20  <PublicServer> <Peter #1> ok
01:53:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> well normally it wouild mean problem :) just realized
01:53:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> you mean the TL1 crap?
01:54:18  <PublicServer> <Peter #1> yeah
01:54:19  <KenjiE20|LT> prob > problem, probs > probably
01:54:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> thx Kenji :)
01:54:42  <KenjiE20|LT> :P
01:54:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> English ... who speaks that language
01:55:09  <KenjiE20|LT> I speak bad english
01:55:11  <KenjiE20|LT> that count?
01:55:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> u? bad? how come?
01:55:29  <PeterT> he speaks Kenglish
01:55:33  <KenjiE20|LT> speek propa like wot I dee
01:55:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
01:55:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> ogay
01:55:58  <KenjiE20|LT> though generally, I try to type in the Queen's English
01:56:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> ohhhh :)
01:58:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> I like this crap :)
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02:03:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> 8]
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02:08:03  <Chris_Booth> PeterT: you arround?
02:08:06  <PeterT> Hey
02:08:09  <Chris_Booth> whats the issue?
02:08:21  <Chris_Booth> you PMed me twice?
02:08:23  <PeterT> Mega would love to use your VPS, if the offer still stands
02:08:39  <Chris_Booth> my DNS + VPS or just VPS
02:08:43  <PeterT> DNS?
02:09:00  <Chris_Booth> DNS for the forum, so you can host the forum
02:09:05  <Chris_Booth> or VPS to host game
02:09:28  <PeterT> VPS for nwo
02:09:31  <PeterT> maybe DNS later?
02:09:46  <PeterT> We are still waiting for this guy to give us the MySQL database:
02:10:22  <PeterT> http://clanmega.warlink.eu/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=1084
02:10:23  <Webster> Title: Clanmega • Login (at clanmega.warlink.eu)
02:11:34  <PeterT> Chris_Booth: Do you have SSH access?
02:11:51  <PeterT> Chris_Booth: It was Linux, correct?
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02:14:01  <PublicServer> <Peter> I'm watching you build, with my watch company patch :-P
02:14:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> what doe it do?
02:14:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> does
02:14:30  <PublicServer> <Peter> I'll link you to the forum
02:14:52  <PeterT> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=45221
02:14:53  <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums • View topic - [Patch] Watch Other Companies GUI (at www.tt-forums.net)
02:15:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> ncie
02:15:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> nice
02:16:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> tnx
02:16:26  <PublicServer> <Peter> yeap
02:16:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> thats the overflow
02:17:00  <PublicServer> <Peter> ok
02:17:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> I make overflows everywhere with TL1 ... every little change in production and it is many trains difference
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02:18:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> o_O?
02:18:57  <PublicServer> <Peter> Nothing
02:19:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
02:19:15  <PeterT> Chris_Booth: are you there/
02:21:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> mad
02:21:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> enough
02:22:29  * PeterT thinks Chris_Booth is either setting-up SSH or has just left
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02:36:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> OMG
02:36:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> 3:36 a.m.
02:36:56  <PublicServer> <Peter> Wow
02:37:04  <PublicServer> <Peter> haha, 9:36 here
02:37:06  <ed__> just take monday off
02:37:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
02:37:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok my city is for now done
02:37:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> anything else requires attention?
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02:42:28  <PublicServer> <Peter> Ok, I'll see you guys tommorow
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02:42:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> cya
02:42:59  <ed__> cya
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02:43:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok
02:43:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> my part done for today
02:43:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> I am off as well
02:43:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> cya
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02:45:19  <zerpa> umph
02:45:28  <PeterT> !clients
02:45:30  <PeterT> !players
02:45:32  <PublicServer> PeterT: Client 315 (Orange) is Zerpa #1, in company 1 (Sonhill Transport)
02:45:32  <PublicServer> PeterT: Client 79 is roboboy, a spectator
02:45:32  <PublicServer> PeterT: Client 286 (Orange) is Zerpa, in company 1 (Sonhill Transport)
02:45:52  <PeterT> Zerpa, don't join twice
02:45:55  <PeterT> it's not allowed
02:46:04  <zerpa> i'm not.. hmm
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02:46:20  <PeterT> <PublicServer> PeterT: Client 315 (Orange) is Zerpa #1, in company 1 (Sonhill Transport)
02:46:20  <PeterT> <PublicServer> PeterT: Client 79 is roboboy, a spectator
02:46:20  <PeterT> <PublicServer> PeterT: Client 286 (Orange) is Zerpa, in company 1 (Sonhill Transport)
02:46:48  <zerpa> sorry
02:47:31  <zerpa> any able to join for just 2 mins? I was in the middle of replacing parts of my network
02:47:37  <PeterT> Sure
02:47:41  <PeterT> I will come right now
02:47:54  <zerpa> thanks
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02:48:09  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> that'll do, thanks :)
02:48:13  <PeterT> never mind me, then
02:48:23  <PeterT> besides, roboboy will be building anyway
02:48:23  <PublicServer> <roboboy> hehe
02:48:32  <PublicServer> <roboboy> maybe
02:53:18  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> :P
02:54:05  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> there, much better than those maglev with this theme
02:54:08  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> thanks robo
02:56:54  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> gn
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02:56:58  <PeterT> night
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02:58:39  <PeterT> !players
02:58:41  <PublicServer> PeterT: Client 79 is roboboy, a spectator
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03:00:47  <PeterT> @tell Chris_Booth See you tommorow
03:22:52  <Chris_Booth> @tell PeterT you mean see me today? As tomorrow will be monday in my world
03:23:18  <PeterT> Ok :-)
03:53:31  <ed__> !password
03:53:31  <PublicServer> ed__: weighs
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07:46:41  <mitooo> !password
07:46:41  <PublicServer> mitooo: solemn
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08:17:11  <PublicServer> <Benom> at "fis of signals /V" theres a maglev bridge for monorail tracks
08:18:06  <PublicServer> <Benom> oh sorry ... it's a monorail bridge ... just the wrong color for me for some reason o.O
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09:25:29  <Sander_Buruma> !help
09:25:29  <PublicServer> Sander_Buruma: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands
09:25:46  <Sander_Buruma> !download
09:25:47  <PublicServer> Sander_Buruma: !download autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x
09:25:54  <Sander_Buruma> !download win32
09:25:54  <PublicServer> Sander_Buruma: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19163/openttd-trunk-r19163-windows-win32.zip
09:26:04  <Sander_Buruma> !grf
09:26:05  <PublicServer> Sander_Buruma: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/GRF (Version 7.3)
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09:30:20  <zerpa> !password
09:30:20  <PublicServer> zerpa: safari
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09:33:57  <Donno> !help
09:33:58  <PublicServer> Donno: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands
09:35:04  <Donno> !download
09:35:04  <PublicServer> Donno: !download autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x
09:35:12  <Donno> !download win32
09:35:12  <PublicServer> Donno: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19163/openttd-trunk-r19163-windows-win32.zip
09:36:12  <Donno> !playercount
09:36:13  <PublicServer> Donno: Number of players: 4
09:36:16  <Donno> !ip
09:36:16  <PublicServer> Donno: ps.openttdcoop.org
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09:37:46  <Donno> !password
09:37:46  <PublicServer> Donno: safari
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09:37:56  <Webster> Player, please change your in game nick
09:38:06  <PublicServer> <Player> ofc, sorry
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09:55:05  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> where do I find the option to see reserved tracks?
09:55:32  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> Advanced -> Interface -> Display Options
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09:59:55  <Phazorx> !password
09:59:55  <PublicServer> Phazorx: bemoan
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10:00:13  <Phazorx> !dict bemoan
10:00:18  <Phazorx> @dict bemoan
10:00:21  <Webster> Phazorx: wn: bemoan v : regret strongly; "I deplore this hostile action"; "we lamented the loss of benefits" [syn: {deplore}, {lament}, {bewail}]
10:00:42  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> didnt know this server had a dictionary
10:03:00  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> If i understand this right then we have these TL1 maglevs so the frequency of delivery stimulates growth right?
10:03:25  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> yeah since this is tropic towns dont grow w/o water/food
10:03:41  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> and pax game w/o passengeers isnt fun
10:03:59  <PublicServer> <Intexon> you don't need to use TL1 maglevs though
10:04:04  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> no
10:04:11  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> i use tl4s
10:05:45  <Sander_Buruma> !goal
10:06:25  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> does it matter how much water/food/etc is delivered?
10:06:39  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> nope
10:06:47  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> but it should be done monthly
10:06:56  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> or is quarterly?
10:07:10  <PublicServer> <Intexon> monthy imo
10:07:30  <PublicServer> *** Intexon has joined spectators
10:07:35  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> there might be more tricks to it
10:07:47  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> i tihnk it is consumed by office buildings
10:08:05  <PublicServer> <Intexon> yea, and water by water towers
10:08:05  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> and you should provide as much as they require somehow
10:09:37  <PublicServer> *** Progman has left the game (leaving)
10:10:46  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> some new trains are lost
10:10:51  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> plz resolve whoever added
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10:13:40  <PublicServer> <Mitooo> sonhill RV  station doesn't accept water
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10:14:24  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> strech it abit
10:14:25  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> thanks
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10:15:04  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> do ML joints need to be priorities?
10:15:17  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> on BBHs no
10:15:25  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> on SLH mandatory yes
10:15:42  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> i'm asking about the joints on Combusters plan
10:16:02  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> since BBH02 is prioritised
10:16:09  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> no idea why
10:16:31  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> but with such long trains and total lack of lane options it might be a good idea
10:16:49  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> are statues usefull in towns?
10:16:53  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> yet core difference between SLH and BBH is what one have equal traffic
10:17:01  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> and another does not, hence priority
10:18:31  <Seberoth> hello all
10:18:37  <PublicServer> <Mitooo> hi :)
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10:21:29  <PublicServer> Techinica: hotter
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10:25:22  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> what's with whole bunch of lost trains?
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10:35:38  <Combuster> Morning folks
10:35:45  <PublicServer> <Mitooo> hi :)
10:36:05  <Combuster> <PublicServer> <Zerpa> since BBH02 is prioritised <- only a requirement for MSHs
10:36:20  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> morning
10:36:36  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> combuster at's the diff between msh and slh then?
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10:37:32  <Combuster> You can add prio's to BBHs if that improves things
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10:43:04  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> any one needs traffic?
10:43:09  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> preferably on east side
10:43:16  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> yep, FWL
10:43:36  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> SAN has extra
10:43:42  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> i'll add
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10:55:01  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> errr.. TGV w/o full load?
10:55:16  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> any particular reason?
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10:56:19  <jondisti> !password
10:56:20  <PublicServer> jondisti: cannon
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11:27:45  <V453000> oh you Dutchy bastards :D you got a gold medal
11:28:12  <mitooo> :D
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11:29:02  <mitooo> i would say: you scandinavian bastards :p
11:31:30  <jondisti> drop finland out of it... 1 medal
11:32:00  <mitooo> especially norge
11:32:32  <hylje> NORWAY
11:32:45  <mitooo> oh sorry :p
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11:34:15  <hylje> :)
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11:46:32  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> interesting location for fruit
11:48:40  <Phazorx> !password
11:48:41  <PublicServer> Phazorx: spewed
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11:48:58  <zerpa> @dict spewed
11:49:00  <Webster> zerpa: No definition for "spewed" could be found in wn
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12:04:59  <OwenS> !players
12:05:00  <PublicServer> OwenS: Client 339 (Orange) is Phazorx, in company 1 (Sonhill Transport)
12:05:00  <PublicServer> OwenS: Client 79 is roboboy, a spectator
12:05:00  <PublicServer> OwenS: Client 321 (Orange) is Mitooo, in company 1 (Sonhill Transport)
12:05:00  <PublicServer> OwenS: Client 323 (Orange) is Zerpa, in company 1 (Sonhill Transport)
12:05:00  <PublicServer> OwenS: Client 327 (Orange) is Sander Buruma, in company 1 (Sonhill Transport)
12:05:02  <PublicServer> OwenS: Client 337 (Orange) is Kenix, in company 1 (Sonhill Transport)
12:05:06  <OwenS> Busy this morning
12:05:21  <OwenS> Well, afternoon by 5 mins :p
12:05:43  <PublicServer> * roboboy wonders why we have 1tile trains
12:05:46  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> or by 3hrs
12:05:59  <OwenS> Phazorx: I'm going by the only correct timezone: UTC :P
12:06:01  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> someone likes workants roboboy?
12:06:03  <PublicServer> <roboboy> or by 11 hoyrs
12:06:12  <OwenS> Ask V453000 IIRC about the1TT
12:06:24  <OwenS> But 1TT is cute :p
12:06:47  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> 2TT is about same on cuteness scale
12:06:52  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> but actualy usefull at same time
12:07:40  <OwenS> Heh
12:07:46  <OwenS> Anyway, biab, shower :P
12:07:47  <PublicServer> *** Phazorx has left the game (leaving)
12:07:50  <Phazorx> gotta go
12:07:53  <OwenS> (Yes I've been lazy this morning :P )
12:08:15  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> what are evs?
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12:11:07  <V453000> OwenS: TL1? :)
12:11:27  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> might as well just use trucks almost
12:12:03  <V453000> it is a protest against TL15. :D
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12:15:37  <OwenS> !password
12:15:37  <PublicServer> OwenS: bipeds
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12:18:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> I see Kenix got quite inspired by TL1 :D
12:19:07  <PublicServer> <Kenix> hm? :P
12:19:31  <PublicServer> <Kenix> Where? :)
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12:19:50  <PublicServer> <Kenix> Ahh, i think that's mitooo' work :)
12:19:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> kk
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12:21:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh that is WIP :)
12:21:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> sry then
12:21:37  <PublicServer> <roboboy> is anyone building now?
12:21:51  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> I'm looking at mitoo demolish his experiment
12:22:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> quite useless
12:22:12  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> was me
12:22:17  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> but yes, useless :P
12:22:34  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> is there any use in the delivery of goods?
12:22:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> you are trying to regulate things, Zerpa ... which is nice :) but not always the easiest way
12:23:03  <PublicServer> <roboboy> im briefly joining
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12:23:20  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> true
12:23:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> is nice though :)
12:25:03  <PublicServer> <roboboy> gnight
12:25:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> bye
12:25:09  <PublicServer> <Kenix> nbb
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12:27:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> Zerpa: check ! :o
12:27:47  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> where?
12:27:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> at sign
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12:28:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> the PBS is either useless there or the block signals shouldnt be there
12:28:47  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> ah yes
12:29:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> this is better
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12:29:20  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> good, usually do that
12:29:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> block signals alone arent very good imo ... some ppl use them without anything bad but ...
12:29:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> this is surely ok
12:29:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> on the other side you got the same ;)
12:31:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will "fix" it for you
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12:31:52  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> ty
12:32:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> np
12:32:33  <zerpa> what's the command to check tunnel length?
12:32:43  <mitooo> @tunnels
12:32:43  <Webster> mitooo: (tunnels <trainlength> [<split>]) -- Returns minimum and maximum signal gap sizes for 2,3 and 4 linesplits with <trainlength>. If <spilt> is given it will return the the gap sizes for <split> (+/-) 1.
12:32:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> ye
12:32:58  <zerpa> @tunnels 5
12:32:58  <Webster> zerpa: For Trainlength of 5: < 11 needs 2, 12 - 18 needs 3, 19 - 25 needs 4.
12:33:03  <PeterT> @seen SmatZ
12:33:03  <Webster> PeterT: SmatZ was last seen in #openttdcoop 2 days, 12 hours, 14 minutes, and 51 seconds ago: <SmatZ> V453000: thanks, rats on cocaine just killed my firefox
12:33:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
12:33:16  <zerpa> @tunnels 3
12:33:16  <Webster> zerpa: For Trainlength of 3: < 9 needs 2, 10 - 14 needs 3, 15 - 19 needs 4.
12:33:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> how long you need?
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12:33:56  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> need 4 tunnels to make them all the way under
12:34:08  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> just for looks
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12:35:47  <V453000> where:
12:35:48  <V453000> ?
12:35:48  <PeterT> @logs
12:35:48  <Webster> Logs: http://hyru.ath.cx:60080/~kenji/ottdcoop/
12:35:53  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> same
12:37:18  <Pirate87> !password
12:37:18  <PublicServer> Pirate87: squats
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12:46:33  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> why dont we use trucks to feed these small stations?
12:46:42  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> the small pickup stations
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12:51:16  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> why does nedingworth falls have a TGV?
12:51:39  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> i guess you can grow any city you like
12:52:05  <PublicServer> <Owen> Ouch
12:52:12  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> ooops
12:52:44  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> there is / was something wrong there, the trains were stuck
12:57:09  <PeterT> @logs
12:57:09  <Webster> Logs: http://hyru.ath.cx:60080/~kenji/ottdcoop/
12:57:43  <KenjiE20> the url hasn't changed since the last umpteen dozen times you asked
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12:58:11  <Paul2> lol
12:58:19  <PeterT> :-P
12:58:23  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> I swear i saw an e jump around
12:58:27  * PeterT opens a query
12:58:36  <Phazorx> !password
12:58:36  <PublicServer> Phazorx: gorged
12:58:38  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> did we set any goals in this game ?
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12:59:00  <Phazorx> Pirate87: all tiles must be city tiles
12:59:11  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> ALL TILES?
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12:59:14  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> u've gotta be kidding me !
12:59:19  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> i am pirate :)
12:59:29  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> so goal i to get bored while making it better
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13:01:08  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> museums of modern art are nice
13:01:17  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> i havent seen this layout ever i think
13:01:17  <V453000> <Phazorx> Pirate87: all tiles must be city tiles lol?
13:01:36  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> v453000 no one said it's gonna be easy
13:01:39  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> or in this century
13:01:46  <V453000> didnt count with that :)
13:02:14  <PublicServer> * Peter has a filter sign list patch :-P
13:02:19  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> if thats going to be the way it is we'd better lay mainlines with 15 tracks left and right
13:02:31  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> heh
13:02:46  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> i;d say we will have to go to LL_RR at some point
13:02:57  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> or this is one boriing game
13:03:06  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> auxilary nets are more fun atm IMO
13:03:25  <PublicServer> <Peter> anyone like my prios at MSH 03?
13:03:28  <PublicServer> <Owen> I must agree I've been having more fun streamlining my resource net :p
13:03:31  <PublicServer> <Peter> quite hard to fit them in there
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13:03:51  <PublicServer> <Owen> TBH the cities are gowing *slow* :p
13:04:05  <PublicServer> <Owen> And as it's TGV-ng we can't sbahn to speed them up
13:04:07  <sietse> !password
13:04:07  <PublicServer> sietse: shirts
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13:04:27  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> owen are you feeding them?
13:04:38  <PublicServer> <Owen> I'm feeding and watering them
13:04:47  <PublicServer> <Owen> Foods somewhat irregular though, not many plantations in the desert :p
13:05:06  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> who makes them grow? Superman? Mitooo? God?
13:05:19  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> use smaller trains
13:05:35  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> only thing counts is whether or not they been fed this month
13:05:42  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> ammount does not matter much
13:07:37  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> 2 towns i am dealing with have trippled since i started to feed them regulary
13:08:03  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> compared to just dumping loads of 300 tons?
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13:08:30  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> Sander Buruma: if town been fed and watered in the month it has potential to grow
13:08:33  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> as in chance
13:08:55  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> if it has not been fed it can only upgrade thingsd to offices
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13:14:57  <PublicServer> <Owen> I delivered nearly 2mil litres of water last month XD
13:16:20  <PublicServer> <Owen> Yay, with a slight expansion of the food service it's growing :-)
13:19:43  <PublicServer> <Peter> yay! prio works now
13:19:55  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> congratulations : )
13:20:04  <PublicServer> * Peter is the master of intricate long prios
13:20:57  <PublicServer> * Owen ponders why you need a prio for a depot...
13:21:08  <PublicServer> <Peter> near "Convert to rail /Peter"?
13:21:12  <PublicServer> <Owen> Yes
13:21:27  <PublicServer> <Peter> because you don't want new trains interfering?
13:21:55  <PublicServer> <Owen> You shouldn't be releasing them so often it becomes an issue
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13:22:15  <PublicServer> <Owen> Incidentally, I like BBH09's totsoness
13:22:32  <PublicServer> <Owen> And dislike it's lack of prios :P
13:23:10  <PublicServer> <Peter> fixing
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13:29:17  <V453000> !password
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13:29:19  <PublicServer> V453000: gloats
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13:29:44  <PublicServer> <Peter> Hey V
13:29:48  <V453000> hi Peter
13:29:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> how you doin
13:30:03  <PublicServer> <Peter> good
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13:32:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> who added copper ore trucks? why?
13:33:27  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> I did for no big reason
13:33:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
13:33:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> well they are not in a plan :D and why adding something without a reason?
13:34:16  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> for the same reasons someone made tl1 trains :l
13:34:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol
13:34:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont see anything bad there
13:34:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> they do the job they should
13:35:12  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> put them all in a big group so they can be removed pretty easily
13:35:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> they are in a group though i see no reason do remove them
13:36:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> hm?
13:36:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> unless you provide me a reason
13:36:55  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> there is none that I know of
13:37:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> they why so agressive about small trains :)
13:37:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> well they do have small capacity indeed ... but for a "small city network " as in the plan they are enough
13:38:30  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> but won't they eat to much %CPU ?
13:38:49  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> especially later
13:38:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont think it is that bad
13:39:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> they definitely take more
13:41:21  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> maybe I should write how TL1 trains are blasphemy before I try to justify my precious trucks
13:41:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> a few minutes ago you said you see no reason
13:42:28  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> there is no intelligable reason for romantic love to these loveable trucks
13:42:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> ???
13:43:44  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> what I mean to say is I don't know have to end this awkward conversation without admitting a mistake and embarrassing myself
13:44:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> lets just end it with "whatever"
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13:44:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> but those trucks jam
13:44:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> at Finbourne South
13:44:44  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> they go through eachother
13:44:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> you dont see the queue I guess
13:45:10  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> there are a few too many trucks yes
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13:45:19  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> going all the way to the tunnel
13:45:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah
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13:46:11  <Pirate87> !password
13:46:11  <PublicServer> Pirate87: bawled
13:46:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D endless
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13:46:41  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> can i remove the airport ?
13:46:54  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> it's stealing passangers from the TGV
13:46:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think we can remove the MM already
13:47:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
13:47:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> from me too
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13:48:57  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> in patiently waiting for finbourne copper mines to grow
13:49:00  <PublicServer> * Owen things OpenTTD should add away to detect and cover the ugly squares that appear at complex maglev junctions :p
13:49:04  <PublicServer> <Owen> Copper mine? WHy?
13:49:21  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> to dissolve the jam
13:49:28  <PublicServer> <Owen> Why are we collecting copper?!
13:50:01  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> because I wanted to play around with trucks a bit
13:50:17  <V453000> Owen: hate maglev look
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13:50:44  <V453000> told you copper isnt in plan
13:50:45  <PublicServer> <Owen> It wouldn't be so bad if you didn't get the little squares of dirt in the middle of the tracks...
13:50:57  <V453000> lol
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13:53:00  <PublicServer> <Owen> Flonley Halt is an awe inspiring monstrosity :p
13:53:46  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> the way it is around now its just horrifying because theres not enough production to pick up
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13:54:02  <V453000> :D what pm?
13:54:08  <KenjiE20> shh
13:54:12  <KenjiE20> :P
13:54:21  <V453000> :o
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13:55:19  <V453000> !password
13:55:19  <PublicServer> V453000: bawled
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13:56:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> awe inspiring monstrsity?
13:56:17  <PublicServer> <Owen> It's a mess, but a brilliant mess
13:56:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
13:56:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> thx
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13:56:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is copied from my old SP TL1 game :)
13:56:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> well almost copied
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13:59:24  <PublicServer> <Owen> I'm for some reason reminded of the C-Bahn...
13:59:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> C-bahn? dont know that
13:59:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> who disconnected the timer?
13:59:39  <PublicServer> <Owen> S-Bahn. Implemented using canals
13:59:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
13:59:59  <PublicServer> <Owen> I got tired of perenially upgrading S-Bahns so I used boats XD
14:00:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol
14:00:24  <PublicServer> <Owen> Infinite capacity ^^
14:00:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
14:00:36  <PublicServer> <Owen> Very ugly though :p
14:00:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> I also dont like boats
14:00:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> plus they are dumb :D
14:00:51  <PublicServer> <Owen> Watching 8 boats detach from a dock at the same time, clipping each other :p
14:00:51  <Progman> nice style: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003AA68.png
14:01:12  <PublicServer> <Sietse> lol.... steroids drop :)
14:01:43  <V453000> well it is steroids for the city :)
14:02:07  <PublicServer> <Owen> Grr CHT is very waved =(
14:02:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> :|
14:03:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> wtf
14:06:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> quite soem food lost at the Frofingburg transfer and around
14:06:34  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> want some?
14:06:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
14:06:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> I am far awaz
14:06:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> away
14:07:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> rather improve that area to ge tmore
14:09:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> is there any system at the TGV trains?
14:10:11  <OwenS> What do you mean?
14:10:19  <PublicServer> <Owen> Ugh OpenTTD and SCIM do not interact well
14:10:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> there are no groups os it is quite a mess
14:10:32  <PublicServer> <Owen> Evidently not
14:10:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will fix it when I return ... for now I am off ... for about 2 hours, maybe a bit more
14:11:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> k
14:11:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> cya
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14:12:15  <PublicServer> <Peter> good bye v
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14:14:59  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> afk
14:18:39  <PublicServer> <Kenix> mitooo?
14:29:12  <FiCE> !password
14:29:12  <PublicServer> FiCE: stubby
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14:34:58  <Ammler> Fuco: around?
14:35:04  <Ammler> need your help: variable section "[string map {{[} {} {]} {}} $line]"
14:36:17  <Ammler> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/autopilot/repository/entry/autopilot/libs/main.tcl#L20
14:36:31  <PublicServer> <FiCE> looking for some sort of plan/order... error: not found :p
14:36:33  <Ammler> somehow the config reader fails with newer tcl versions
14:37:04  <Fuco> hmm
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14:38:24  <Ammler> the issue is, that it reads values now as with {
14:38:35  <Ammler> channel={#openttdcoop}
14:38:50  <Ammler> and obviously such channels can't be read
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14:39:13  <Fuco> and what is the config format
14:39:18  <KenjiE20> ini
14:39:24  <Ammler> channel=#openttdcoop
14:39:28  <KenjiE20> name = value
14:39:52  <Ammler> oh, that if for sections
14:40:24  <KenjiE20> heh
14:40:34  <Fuco> ye, that code is just for sections
14:41:03  <Ammler> but somewhere, autopilot converts #openttdcoop in {#openttdcoop}
14:41:06  <Fuco> l26 read [text], else branch read values
14:44:13  <Fuco> well, variable section "[string map {{[} {} {]} {}} $line]" this means it replace all '[' with nothing and all ']' with nothing (you can see {} is used as "" in this case)
14:44:28  <Fuco> i don't see where it can get those {}
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14:45:15  <Fuco> well you can try to get rid of the outer {} (around the 2 pairs)
14:46:07  <Ammler> Fuco: words with "#" get wrapped with {}
14:46:22  <Fuco> ah
14:46:29  <Fuco> # is a comment
14:46:30  <Ammler> {#openttdcoop.dev:} FISH and IS2.1.1'
14:46:40  <Fuco> in ini format
14:47:06  <Ammler> server_name = #openttdcoop.dev: FISH and IS2.1.1
14:47:09  <Fuco> but again, it only check if the '#' is first char (&& [string first \# $line] != 0)
14:47:29  <Ammler> Fuco: it is a "feature" of new tcl versions?
14:47:49  <Ammler> because on ps, we don't have that issue and we use same autopilot
14:47:57  <PublicServer> <Owen> Haha, water deliveries passed 2mil l to Cuhattan
14:48:20  <Fuco> what version do you run?
14:48:55  <Ammler> tcllib-1.11.1-2.1.noarch
14:48:56  <Ammler> tcl-8.5.7-4.6.x86_64
14:48:58  <Ammler> tclx-8.4-472.1.x86_64
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14:49:20  <Jorl17> Hello!
14:49:27  <hylje> hi
14:49:43  <Ammler> Heya
14:49:57  <Jorl17> for those of you who do not know me, I'm an ubber-dubber portuguese noob trying to see if he can get into openttdcoop and actually learn something ;)
14:50:12  <Jorl17> Spent the last days a bit busy and I'd like to see if I can learn something today
14:50:13  <Jorl17> !password
14:50:13  <PublicServer> Jorl17: paring
14:50:23  <Ammler> Jorl17: !s/noob/newbie/
14:50:33  <Jorl17> !s
14:50:33  <Ammler> (I hope)
14:50:51  <Jorl17> (!s/noob/newbie/) ?
14:51:01  <Ammler> yes, if you are a noob, please leave.
14:51:04  <KenjiE20> regexp, s/earch/replace/
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14:51:30  <callcolor> !pw
14:51:39  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> do TGV trains need full load orders ?
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14:51:46  <KenjiE20> what Ammler means is we like 'newbies' but not 'noobs'
14:51:47  <PublicServer> <Owen> never
14:52:12  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> Oh, sure, I'm very limited when it comes to regexp, only did a bit inside my qt4 coding
14:52:15  <Ammler> thanks KenjiE20 :-)
14:52:30  <PeterT> !tell callcolor !password
14:52:30  <PublicServer> callcolor: paring
14:52:33  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> some1 built some like that
14:52:39  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> Well, I am a newbie, and have basically no experience at all with your way of doing things, nor hubs.
14:52:44  <callcolor> !password
14:52:44  <PublicServer> callcolor: paring
14:53:13  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> I'll keep reading the wiki for a while
14:53:21  <Ammler> Jorl17: then you are very Welcome :-)
14:53:26  <planetmaker> :-)
14:53:47  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> thanks.
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14:54:07  <planetmaker> Commonly the difference between noob and newbie is: noobs don't (want to) learn, but force-fed all stuff; newbies on the other hand want to learn, but just don't (yet) know better
14:54:27  <planetmaker> the latter is fine. We all started small and without (much) knowledge
14:54:29  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> I'm hoping I can fit in the latter category ;)
14:54:38  <planetmaker> :-)
14:54:40  <KenjiE20> the former get's banned
14:54:43  <KenjiE20> :)
14:54:43  <PeterT> Jorl17: I submitted a bug report to #Goulp
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14:54:52  <PeterT> with your fix
14:54:54  <Fuco> Ammler: so it only adds {} to values starting with #?
14:54:57  <PeterT> He says its already fixed
14:55:03  <Ammler> Fuco: seems like
14:55:03  <Fuco> that's pretty weird stuff
14:55:07  <Ammler> only the words
14:55:14  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> Oh, ok, thanks PeterT.
14:55:18  <PeterT> Oh, we are setting up #openttdcoop.dev server?
14:55:20  <PeterT> greta
14:55:35  <Ammler> server_name = #openttdcoop.dev: FISH and IS2.1.1 -> {#openttdcoop.dev:} FISH and IS2.1.1
14:56:23  <Ammler> PeterT: mainly I try setup tcl on my server, since the upgrade, it seems not working anymore...
14:56:43  <PeterT> Hmm
14:57:04  <PeterT> try server_name = /"#openttdcoop.dev/": FISH and IS2.1.1
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14:57:47  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> so if I get this right, tgv-ng does not follow the usual "box around the map concept" but, instead, adopts an as fast as possible one.
14:57:52  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> ?
14:57:59  <mitooo> !password
14:57:59  <PublicServer> mitooo: paring
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14:59:16  <planetmaker> Jorl17: anything specific anywhere where this question relates to?
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14:59:50  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> You mean if there's someplace with info on it? Sure, the wiki, where I read it.
15:00:02  <KenjiE20> @tgv
15:00:02  <Webster> tgv: train àrande vitesse, French for 'high-speed train', and used to refer to gametype's, see also: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Gametype:TGV_Concept and http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Gametype:TGV_NG
15:00:18  <KenjiE20> O.o where'd the 'g' go
15:00:31  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> @tgv-ng
15:00:47  <KenjiE20> try readging the reply
15:00:53  <Fuco> Ammler: can you upload the ini somewhere?
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15:01:16  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> Yes, TGV_NG in wiki, I was reading that, thanks ;)
15:02:11  <planetmaker> Jorl17: the wiki is a big place for sure. Also we don't know what every wiki page talks about, so a link, if referring to something in a wiki is usually quite helpful; especially as some things are mentioned in several context
15:02:28  <planetmaker> that said: tgv-ng seems like building the tracks in a more dynamical manner
15:02:39  <planetmaker> as opposed to "default" tgv concept
15:05:58  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> Gunfingbridge Fruit Drop keeps being remodeled
15:06:16  <PublicServer> <Kenix> :)
15:06:25  <Ammler> Fuco: the autopilot there is completely unpatched
15:06:29  <PeterT> are all the ottdcoop servers on one VPS, or multiple?
15:06:49  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> oh god who build these boats
15:07:02  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> (Cuhattan)
15:07:08  <PublicServer> <Peter> I see
15:07:09  <Ammler> PeterT: if you would have followed the conv, you would know :-P
15:07:15  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> hehehe
15:07:20  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> Not me, but they're funny
15:07:27  <PublicServer> <Owen> The thing abou canals, is they have infinite capacity :p
15:07:52  <PublicServer> <Peter> Nice use of aqueducts
15:07:52  <Fuco> Well, on my tcl 8.5 win x64 it works flawlessly
15:08:10  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> what do you suggest I try to do first here?
15:08:27  <PublicServer> <Peter> Open the sign list
15:08:41  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> check
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15:08:44  <PublicServer> <Peter> go to signs with "!<text here>"
15:09:14  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> and try to fix those issues?
15:09:18  <PublicServer> <Peter> yes
15:09:32  <PublicServer> <Peter> i just fixed on
15:09:33  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> do these jungles expand into the desert at all?
15:09:36  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> @cl
15:09:48  <Jorl17> @cl
15:09:48  <Webster> cl: Curve Length, mostly used to describe how big a curve must be to let pass trains with a certain TL at full speed, see also: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Max_Curve_Speed
15:11:07  <Jorl17> @msh
15:11:07  <Webster> msh: Main Station Hub, see also: http://www.openttdcoop.org/blog/2009/06/14/re-introducing-main-station-hubs/
15:11:15  <KenjiE20> Sander_Buruma: no, never did, probably never will
15:11:45  <PublicServer> <Owen> It's kind of annoying :-(
15:12:14  <Ammler> [16:07] <Fuco> Well, on my tcl 8.5 win x64 it works flawlessly <-- any idea?
15:12:26  <Jorl17> @pax
15:12:26  <Webster> pax: Passengers and is, as an abbreviation, widely known and used in the transportation business
15:12:35  <KenjiE20> Jorl17: /query webster
15:12:56  <Jorl17> Aha! Thankis that won't mess you.
15:13:20  <PublicServer> <Owen> It's a shame there are no other towns on the central ring :-(
15:13:38  <PublicServer> <Peter> Just enable found towns
15:13:53  <PublicServer> <Owen> There are towns, just nobody has hooked them up
15:14:03  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> what train length are we using for monorails?
15:14:07  <Fuco> Ammler, not really ;(
15:14:07  <PublicServer> <Owen> 15
15:14:11  <PublicServer> <Owen> (30 carriages)
15:14:17  <PublicServer> <Owen> Just copy the train from the !trainyard
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15:14:38  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> Ahum, and what does that mean in terms of cl?
15:14:47  <PublicServer> <Owen> Curve length is 6 tiles
15:14:55  <PublicServer> <Owen> (Experimentally discovered)
15:14:58  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> ah, thanks.
15:14:58  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> read plan :)
15:15:03  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> oh! my bad
15:15:22  <PublicServer> <Owen> I so think we need to do a 1TT game sometime ;p
15:15:35  <PeterT> Ammler: You could go to #tcl on FreeNode
15:17:29  <PublicServer> <Owen> I wish arriving trains would kick loading trains out rather than leave empty...
15:17:53  <PublicServer> <Owen> I'd rather two 80% full trains than a 100%, 0%, and 500 on the platforms...
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15:19:30  <PeterT> !url
15:19:31  <PublicServer> PeterT: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/
15:21:18  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> how do we go about the length of bridges?
15:21:34  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> I've seen them with 1 tile only so I assume there's no restriction.
15:22:05  <PublicServer> <Owen> No minimum or maximum, but on highly trafficed lines must be doubled or tripled as needed
15:22:49  <Ammler> Phazorx: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002AE0C.png <-- looks like to many bridges for such long trains
15:22:56  <Ammler> too
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15:23:35  <PeterT> !password
15:23:35  <PublicServer> PeterT: delved
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15:24:08  <PublicServer> <Peter> Wow, the game looks different in OGFX
15:24:20  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> could someone see if cl isn't that bad at Muninghall (signal !cl and trying to fix /Jorl17)?
15:24:28  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> youll get used to it
15:24:31  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> My guess is that the bridge over thee is killing train speed.
15:24:32  <PublicServer> <Peter> Mono trains are much more easily seen
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15:24:55  <PublicServer> <Owen> Looks good
15:25:02  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> you sure?
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15:26:09  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> Nice! thanks.
15:26:40  <PublicServer> <Peter> what?
15:26:42  <PublicServer> <Peter> lemme see it
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15:27:12  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> Well, !cl
15:27:22  <PublicServer> <Peter> Ok
15:27:29  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> I don't think it's that good, owen said it was.
15:27:46  <PublicServer> <Peter> that's fine
15:27:51  <PublicServer> <Owen> Really, it's an awkward sopt
15:28:05  <PublicServer> <Peter> What you could do
15:28:21  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> õh, yeah.
15:28:51  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> aer, but why 2?
15:29:06  <PublicServer> <Peter> we usually use double bridges
15:29:23  <PublicServer> <Peter> See ^
15:29:33  <PublicServer> <Owen> It's TL 15 >_<
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15:29:40  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> oooh
15:29:43  <PublicServer> <Peter> grr. i keep forgetting
15:29:50  <PublicServer> <Intexon> who was that :P
15:30:11  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> then what about thhat tunnel below?
15:30:18  <PublicServer> <Peter> Double it
15:30:33  <PublicServer> <Peter> that's what newbies are for, to fix minor things
15:30:55  <KenjiE20> no, that's what minions are for
15:30:59  <PublicServer> <Peter> Owen: can I help ya build the BBH?
15:31:03  <PublicServer> <Owen> Sure
15:31:14  <KenjiE20> newbies are there to give the minions things to do
15:31:30  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> is that alright?
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15:35:19  <PublicServer> <Peter> Owen: Are we building anything else?
15:35:22  <PublicServer> <Peter> Also, crash fail
15:35:27  <PublicServer> <Peter> for whoever who was playing with pbs
15:35:29  <PublicServer> <Owen> I was gonna build a companion BBH :P
15:35:53  <PublicServer> <Owen> Stupid trains reversing into PBS blocks
15:36:04  <PublicServer> <Peter> also, how is the prio wrong way?
15:36:07  <PublicServer> <Owen> My feeders fell apart
15:36:13  <PublicServer> <Owen> Because the ML is the diagonal line
15:36:14  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> I don't get it, what's the big advantage of using 2-way PBS?
15:36:20  <PublicServer> <Peter> right
15:36:27  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> if we want the train to go somewhere, why don't we just use 1sign?
15:36:30  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> 1-way*
15:37:54  <PublicServer> * Owen shuffles some stuff around at MSH 01
15:38:30  <PublicServer> <tneo> Peter: why did you add prios to bbh04?
15:39:14  <PublicServer> <Owen> >_<
15:39:49  <PublicServer> <Peter> Owen: !tunnels
15:40:03  <PublicServer> <Owen> (Needs a synonym :P )
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15:42:45  <PublicServer> * Peter goes to look (and fix) some ! signs
15:43:00  <PublicServer> <Peter> not much
15:43:42  <PublicServer> <Peter> everyone, be sure to add your name at builders board
15:43:55  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> i added a !
15:43:58  <PublicServer> <Peter> also, !pyramid?
15:44:00  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> which i caused myself
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15:47:01  <PublicServer> <Peter> Come one, just need a few more clients to breeak the record
15:47:06  <PeterT> !playercount
15:47:06  <PublicServer> PeterT: Number of players: 12
15:47:21  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> Could somebody help me out at sign '/jorl17'?
15:47:26  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> I was trying to do something^^
15:47:34  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> But can't actually make the junction.
15:47:37  <mitooo> @stats
15:47:37  <Webster> mitooo: I have 18 registered users with 20 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 5 admins.
15:47:42  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> how is "gap" defined?
15:47:47  <mitooo> @records
15:47:47  <Webster> #openttdcoop Records: Clients: 24 | Trains: 2000 (PSG#131) - 2522 (PZG#5) | Single cargo output: 100,983 (PSG#176) | World Pop: 3,075,319 (PSG#101) 
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15:47:54  <planetmaker> the # tiles between two signals
15:48:03  <hylje> the space between two signaled tiles
15:48:09  <hylje> that contains no signals
15:48:19  <Kolo> !playercount
15:48:19  <PublicServer> Kolo: Number of players: 13
15:48:20  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> ok, thx
15:48:58  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> anyone?
15:51:48  <PublicServer> <Owen> Yay! Train using BBH10 & 11
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15:52:54  <PublicServer> <Peter> planetm4ker: is the "4" so that you don't get constantly highlighted?
15:53:04  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hi
15:53:07  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> Peter: yes
15:53:12  <PublicServer> <Peter> ah, ok
15:53:22  <PublicServer> <Owen> Like Amm1er and Zerosai :p
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15:53:31  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> Jorl17: where do you need advice? Sign?
15:53:41  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> '/jorl17'
15:53:47  <PublicServer> <Mitooo> pm: you gave me a good idea :p
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15:54:22  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> ok, what's the issue, Jorl17?
15:54:35  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> I haven't named anything yet, I was just trying to make a junction
15:54:40  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> a bit more to the right
15:54:42  <PublicServer> <P3+3r7> sign?
15:54:43  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> following that line
15:54:49  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> uh? The sign is at a station...?
15:54:55  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> yes
15:54:57  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> ah, ok
15:55:20  <PublicServer> <P3+3r7> what is the sign name?
15:55:27  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> '/jorl17'
15:55:27  <PublicServer> <P3+3r7> I will search it
15:55:28  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> let me first get to understand the network plan, though :-)
15:55:33  <PublicServer> <P3+3r7> Ok, I'm there
15:55:39  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> sure, and what I got there is probably wrong
15:55:46  <PublicServer> <P3+3r7> What isthe problem?
15:55:52  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> it might have an influence on the junction we need. That's why :-)
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15:56:06  <PeterT> !playercount
15:56:06  <PublicServer> PeterT: Number of players: 15
15:56:06  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> Well, I wanted to have that water supply cargo transported to Rondighattan Cargo
15:56:21  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> I know, really close, but I thought I'd give it a go
15:56:30  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> Now I need help making a junction, that's my biggest pain.
15:56:42  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> T-hub, or so I've heard, is what I must do there.
15:57:28  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> yes, that should be right. I understand it that water should be local anyway, so that's fine
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15:57:57  <PublicServer> <Owen> Unfortunately we haven't had the cooperation on water that I'd hoped for :-(
15:57:58  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> oh god
15:58:06  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> I wasn't expecting that long one.
15:58:40  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> that's not where I was expecting it to go, but that's good, I think!
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16:00:04  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> oh my, it's done isn't it?
16:00:17  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> well. yes. But it's not pretty ;-)
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16:00:40  <PublicServer> <P3+3r7> No, rather large
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16:01:10  <PublicServer> <Owen> Intexon: For Neningville, take some water & food from the central station =)
16:01:43  <PublicServer> <Owen> Intexon: From "RDC Central Region"
16:03:01  <PeterT> Jorl17:
16:03:05  <PeterT> @wiki Priorities
16:03:08  <Webster> Priority - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Special:Search?go=Go&search=Priorities
16:03:10  <PeterT> @wiki Priority
16:03:13  <Webster> Priority - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Special:Search?go=Go&search=Priority
16:03:14  <PeterT> ^
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16:03:35  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> thanks!
16:03:36  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> Brb
16:04:08  <PublicServer> <Peter> thanks planetmaker
16:04:09  <PublicServer> <Owen> Aaah! Gaaaaaargrg
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16:04:32  <planetmaker> you're welcome
16:04:40  <PublicServer> <Owen> Trains cloned
16:04:45  <PublicServer> <Owen> Fortunately the block is till usable =)
16:04:51  <planetmaker> Jorl17: it *might* be a good idea in that case, though, to make everything for TL=4
16:05:13  <planetmaker> the maglev sub-network there seems to follow a curve length of 4, and not the 3 which we now used
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16:12:51  <PublicServer> <Owen> Wood is paid extraordinarily well =/
16:13:08  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> is Fonfingfield being directed to expand  east of the tgv station?
16:14:15  <V453000> !password
16:14:15  <PublicServer> V453000: outlaw
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16:14:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> hiya
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16:14:56  <PublicServer> <Intexon> hey
16:14:59  <PublicServer> <Owen> Jeeze CHT just got innundated =/
16:15:46  <PublicServer> <Owen> (And I'm not talking about the truely preposterous quantities of water I deliver there each month either :P )
16:16:51  <PublicServer> <Owen> It would, you know, be nice to for once see a train go through MSH02 rather than turning off there :p
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16:21:04  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> Well, I have to go for now, thanks for the help!
16:21:07  <PublicServer> <Peter> bye
16:21:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> cya
16:21:20  <PublicServer> <Jorl17> I think I'll have to check-out priorities to see if I can cope with them.
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16:21:33  <Jorl17> Well, cya
16:21:36  <PublicServer> <Peter> yeap, they are quite important, Jorl17
16:21:45  <PeterT> good bye
16:21:58  <Jorl17> Yup, I get what they're for, just not yet how to make them. anyway, bye.
16:22:02  <PublicServer> <Intexon> anyone here could help me with a prio?
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16:22:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> Dreston supplies
16:22:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> sry
16:22:09  <PublicServer> <Intexon> MSH12
16:22:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> omg
16:22:52  <PublicServer> <Owen> Wow, thats a very compact hub
16:23:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> why people copy TL1 trains when they dont know how to use them
16:23:29  <PublicServer> <Intexon> not sure about CL issues though
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16:24:40  <PublicServer> <Owen> O_o about to hit 2.5GL water delivered
16:24:43  <PublicServer> <Owen> At CHT
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16:34:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> I havent ever seen such a mess in groups
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16:35:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> let me do it
16:35:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> or there will be even more mess
16:36:06  <PublicServer> <Owen> I'm handling the trains left since they're mine :p
16:36:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh
16:36:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> then go on
16:36:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok
16:36:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> now the TGV
16:36:53  <PublicServer> <Owen> The lists match up with reality =)
16:37:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> after I did the list just now ...
16:37:29  <PublicServer> <Owen> Intexon: Do you want to hook up Neningville to the RDC?
16:38:50  <PublicServer> <Owen> Aaargh
16:38:57  <PublicServer> <Owen> Lots of TGVs have been misclassified as TGV Trainyard
16:39:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> I am doing it
16:39:19  <Qanael> Hey everyone
16:39:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> making new groups as ! x to b
16:39:23  <PublicServer> <Owen> Just checking you were aware
16:39:24  <Qanael> !dl win64
16:39:24  <PublicServer> Qanael: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19163/openttd-trunk-r19163-windows-win64.zip
16:39:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> someone named the TRAIN :D
16:40:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> instead of group
16:40:14  <PublicServer> <Owen> Isn't that the old way of doing it? :P
16:40:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> the useless one?
16:40:31  <PublicServer> <Owen> I seem to remember us doing it before groups existed :p
16:40:36  <PublicServer> <Owen> Like SB09 time frame :p
16:40:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> if you name the train, you got no better than before ... ok you can sort trains by name
16:41:04  <PublicServer> <Owen> As said, it was the best we had
16:41:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
16:41:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> but not now
16:41:52  <PublicServer> <Owen> I don't think the TGV NG page has been updated since then; perahps it still says that
16:41:52  <Qanael> !password
16:41:53  <PublicServer> Qanael: spewed
16:41:58  <Qanael> ...gross
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16:42:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont care about the page really at the moment ... we need the groups
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16:44:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi Sepp
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16:44:45  <PublicServer> <Sepp> hi
16:45:48  <PublicServer> <Owen> Cuhattan residents must be thirsty buggers :p
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16:46:15  <PublicServer> <Owen> "3,312,000 litres of water delivered last month"
16:47:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh my god
16:47:28  <PublicServer> <Owen> ?
16:47:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> some trains also go to three stations
16:47:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> train 223
16:47:37  <PublicServer> <Owen> Nnnnnaaaaaarrrrrrrggggggg
16:47:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> 223 and 224
16:48:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> I delete WON from the three
16:48:44  <PublicServer> <Owen> /afk
16:48:47  <PublicServer> <Owen> Curry! =)
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16:49:29  <PublicServer> <Peter> stop making pyramids :-{
16:49:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> ?
16:49:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> where?
16:49:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> omfg
16:50:04  <PublicServer> <Peter> ty
16:50:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> np
16:50:26  <PeterT> SmatZ: You there?
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16:52:08  <Sander_Buruma> !password
16:52:08  <PublicServer> Sander_Buruma: perter
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16:53:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok
16:53:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> I just finished cleaning the orders
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16:53:24  <V453000> * cleaning the groups
16:53:34  <V453000> group the trains from now pls, I am not doing this again
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16:58:21  <PublicServer> <Peter> Recession Over!
16:58:23  <PublicServer> <Peter> yay!
16:58:28  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> ??
16:58:59  <PublicServer> <Peter> dont you read the news?
16:59:08  <PublicServer> <Peter> game news, I mean :-P
16:59:30  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> nay
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17:02:55  <Qanael> Are we connecting all the towns?
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17:09:34  <KenjiE20> Sander_Buruma: what's with the constant earthworks?
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17:12:23  <Seberoth> ,
17:12:28  <Seberoth> good evening
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17:13:23  <PeterT> nooooooooo chris_booth
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17:17:14  <Ammler> @wiki AP+
17:17:17  <Ammler> PeterT: ^
17:17:17  <Webster> Autopilot/ap+ - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Special:Search?go=Go&search=AP%2B
17:18:14  <Phazorx> !password
17:18:14  <PublicServer> Phazorx: sinewy
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17:18:30  <Phazorx> @dict sinewy
17:18:32  <Webster> Phazorx: wn: sinewy adj 1: (of meat) full of sinews; especially impossible to chew [syn: {fibrous}, {stringy}, {unchewable}] 2: consisting of tendons or resembling a tendon [syn: {tendinous}] 3: (of a person) possessing physical strength and weight; rugged and powerful; "a hefty athlete"; "a muscular boxer"; "powerful arms" [syn: {brawny}, {hefty}, {muscular}, {powerful}]
17:21:34  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> need more tgvs @ fwl
17:22:30  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> anyone who need more too?
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17:24:28  <PublicServer> <Owen> Back
17:25:02  <PublicServer> <Owen> Zerpa: FWL <-> NVL is my suggestion
17:25:31  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> addin o FWL from SAN
17:26:21  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> added 1 to NVL and one to CHT
17:26:23  <V453000> dont forget to group them pls
17:26:32  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> will do
17:26:38  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> i'm clonig V4530000
17:27:04  <planetmaker> @voice Fuco
17:27:04  *** Webster sets mode: +v Fuco
17:27:26  <OwenS> Any benefit to voice in here? :-P
17:27:40  <planetmaker> maybe not now, but maybe sometimes ;-)
17:27:53  <planetmaker> I actually don't know :-P
17:27:57  <OwenS> Seems slightly pointless to do it temporarily then :
17:28:00  <OwenS> :-P
17:28:15  <planetmaker> but cs knows about it ;-)
17:28:48  <OwenS> Oh, does Webster notify CS?
17:29:02  <planetmaker> no. but I did :-P
17:29:07  <OwenS> lol
17:29:11  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> what group is trainyard train in?
17:29:17  <OwenS> :-( Dilutes my status as only voiced person
17:29:26  <KenjiE20> zerpa: the correct ones I hope
17:29:32  <Intexon> could someone please take a look at a prio at MSH12?
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17:29:52  <PublicServer> <Owen> It looks fine
17:30:05  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> its in DRI - FLNgroup :|
17:30:15  <PublicServer> <Owen> And Intexon, ever gonna feed your citizens? :P
17:30:32  <planetmaker> OwenS: no matter what the channel settings, I want to be able to talk to people who can fix our servers when I cannot ;-)
17:30:42  <PublicServer> <Owen> lol
17:30:56  <PublicServer> <Intexon> town in rainforest don't need food supply if you mean this
17:30:59  <PublicServer> <Intexon> towns
17:31:12  <PublicServer> <Owen> Oh, so they don't
17:31:19  <PublicServer> <Owen> The "Help we are starving" confused me :p
17:31:56  <PublicServer> <Intexon> there was bunch of passengers waiting because someone added trains before I could even complete the MSH
17:32:20  <PublicServer> <Owen> Trains to where? :S
17:32:23  <PublicServer> <Qanael> What's the rule for train orders? Send it to the furthest city?
17:32:36  <PublicServer> <Owen> Send it to city with most passengers sitting around
17:32:43  <PublicServer> <Owen> Failing that, send it tofurtherst city :p
17:32:48  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> qanael look fo stations with most pax waiting
17:32:49  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Alright
17:33:00  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> but over time
17:33:02  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I'm connecting Finbourne and Sanbridge
17:33:05  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> not instant
17:33:06  <PublicServer> <Owen> And stop sending CHT trains people, it has far too many for it's production :p
17:33:13  <PublicServer> <Intexon> doesn't matter where, but they couldn't transport all the pax
17:33:35  <PublicServer> <Intexon> now it's okay imo
17:33:42  <grim4593> !password
17:33:43  <PublicServer> grim4593: plumes
17:33:49  <PublicServer> <Owen> Grr overloaded bus stations
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17:35:46  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Hmm I think I'll have to relocate my hub
17:35:59  <PublicServer> <Owen> Why?
17:36:09  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Cause the town is really close to it so station placement is a pain
17:36:21  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Without horribly violating CL
17:36:45  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Never mind, I saw a solution I think
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17:41:19  <PublicServer> <Peter> anything I can do?
17:41:27  <PublicServer> <Peter> BBH07 needs prios
17:41:30  <PublicServer> <Peter> i will add them
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17:41:53  <PeterT> Never mind, off
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17:46:18  <PublicServer> <Owen> Nooo Cuhattan don't shrink =(
17:47:36  <PublicServer> <Owen> And nooo, CHT water & food terminal is overloaded
17:49:23  <PeterT> @user list --capability op
17:49:23  <Webster> PeterT: KenjiE20
17:49:27  <PeterT> @user list --capability owner
17:49:27  <Webster> PeterT: KenjiE20
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17:52:17  <Fuco> Hey Progman, I've just realized you're from #java lol. Have you been around here for longer?
17:52:56  <Ammler> Fuco: he is a member :-)
17:53:16  <Fuco> hehe, weird how i never put that in connection
17:56:56  <PublicServer> <Owen> Shoo CHT growthspurt :p
17:57:46  <mrcool> !dl win64
17:57:46  <PublicServer> mrcool: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19163/openttd-trunk-r19163-windows-win64.zip
17:57:55  <mrcool> !password
17:57:55  <PublicServer> mrcool: martyr
17:58:13  <Sander_Buruma> what is a pax game?
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17:58:31  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> this is a pax game
17:58:34  <V453000> Sander: a game where we transport pax - passengers
17:58:53  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> a game revoling around transporting passengers andmail
17:59:05  <PublicServer> <Owen> We aren't transporting mail ;-)
17:59:06  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> and hense dealing with town growth
17:59:19  <PublicServer> <Phazorx> Owen: pax is pas+mail
17:59:26  <Sander_Buruma> alright
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18:07:09  <Progman> Fuco: I'm in both networks since years ago ;)
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18:08:33  <V453000> !password
18:08:33  <PublicServer> V453000: livers
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18:09:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
18:09:23  <PublicServer> <mrcool> hi
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18:10:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> who made that pyramid near my city?
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18:14:16  <PeterT> !grf
18:14:16  <PublicServer> PeterT: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/GRF (Version 7.3)
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18:18:51  <PublicServer> <Qanael> A
18:18:52  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Oope
18:18:54  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Oops
18:19:04  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Anyone wanna take a look at Finbourne and Sanbridge, see if I did alright?
18:19:17  <PublicServer> <Qanael> The junction is still missing prios, I'll do that in a sec
18:19:58  <PublicServer> <Owen> No northbound exit
18:20:06  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Oh whoops
18:20:13  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Easy enough to fix :)
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18:34:32  <ed__> !password
18:34:32  <PublicServer> ed__: indoor
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18:56:07  <PeterT> @twitter
18:56:10  <PeterT> @tweet
18:56:47  <PeterT> !tweet
18:56:47  <PublicServer> PeterT: !tweet <status>: tweets the status to our Twitter: http://twitter.com/openttdcoop
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18:59:21  <V453000> hi Combuster
18:59:50  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Hi V453000
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19:00:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> any opinion about transporting copper ore?
19:04:11  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Is there a specific TL for water networks?
19:04:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
19:04:25  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Alright
19:04:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> you can see many TLs all around map
19:04:59  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I think I'll go with 2
19:05:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> as you wish
19:05:35  <PublicServer> <Qanael> V, can you have a look at Finbourne and Sanbridge for me?
19:05:39  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I think I did alright
19:05:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> 8) my drop jammed
19:05:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok  lets hav a look
19:06:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> well I would delete the PBSs just before station at FIN
19:06:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> as if a train waits there, it blocks the rest
19:06:53  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Hmm true
19:07:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> the other the same
19:07:09  <PublicServer> <Qanael> So just have the PBS back there reserve the whole path?
19:07:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> plus the fourth :)
19:07:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
19:07:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok I think thats it
19:07:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> there are some CL issues at the station but it doesnt matter
19:08:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> the train slows at the station anyways
19:08:23  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I tried to respect CL6 everywhere
19:08:26  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Can you show me where?
19:08:42  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Ohh I see it
19:08:55  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Well, it doesn't matter too much
19:09:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes as I said :)
19:09:35  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Man, all the fruit plantations are taken up
19:09:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> I got only one
19:10:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> now I have to fix my Steroids drop
19:10:42  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> where do you need food Q?
19:11:01  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Finbourne and Sanbridge
19:11:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> prospect some primaries
19:12:05  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> Fronfingburg produces 2500/month
19:12:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> hopefully you will get some at the big lake
19:12:24  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Prospect?
19:12:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> fund industries
19:12:58  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Ahh
19:13:10  <PublicServer> <Qanael> ...how do I do that? :)
19:13:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> industry menu
19:13:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> hold mouse there
19:13:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> and Fund industries
19:13:33  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Oh, cool
19:13:34  <PublicServer> <Qanael> That's new
19:13:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> select forests and farms and go
19:13:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> no that is from TTD :d
19:13:48  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Well, new for me :P
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19:14:28  <PublicServer> <Qanael> So it creates an industry of that type at a random appropriate location?
19:14:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
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19:15:29  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Hmmz
19:15:30  <PublicServer> <Qanael> There we go
19:15:33  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Plantation by the lake
19:15:37  <PublicServer> <Combuster> somebody couldn't read the plan
19:15:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> ore?
19:15:53  <PublicServer> <Combuster> ore and more
19:16:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> doesnt surprise me actually
19:16:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> tbh
19:18:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> need some food
19:18:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> brb in several minutes
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19:18:26  <PublicServer> <Combuster> there's enough to grab here :)
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19:18:34  <mitooo> !playercount
19:18:34  <PublicServer> mitooo: Number of players: 9
19:18:42  <mitooo> !password
19:18:42  <PublicServer> mitooo: cabbed
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19:33:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> any news?
19:33:42  <PublicServer> <Combuster> A lot of unconnected towns
19:33:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> hmmm
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19:38:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> I have a feeling that people have an utter need to modify my stuff just to make them dead
19:38:49  <PublicServer> * Qanael tinkers with V's stuff
19:38:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> now for example merging two bridges into one
19:39:01  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Ouch
19:39:07  <PublicServer> <Combuster> I just built hub no. 13
19:39:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
19:39:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> Qanael: ???
19:39:28  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I'm joking
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19:39:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
19:39:39  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I wouldn't touch it, I can't even comprehend it
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19:40:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> well the issue is that the people who touch it dont understand at all
19:40:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> as for example removing injection timer
19:43:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> fun is now I make TL1 and then I see it all around map
19:44:00  <PublicServer> <Mitooo> :)
19:44:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> wouldnt smile about it though :(
19:44:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> ppl fucked up hard mostly with that
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19:49:49  <Razaekel> !password
19:49:49  <PublicServer> Razaekel: braise
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19:50:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi Raz
19:50:06  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> yo
19:50:51  <PublicServer> <Owen> Combuster, could you make MSH13 any bigger? XP
19:51:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> any better idea there? :)
19:51:37  <PublicServer> <Combuster> the hub is rather compact
19:51:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> ye
19:51:47  <PublicServer> <Combuster> there are just four stations connected to it
19:52:00  <PublicServer> <Owen> I was  just commenting on the "hump" :p
19:52:14  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> oh jeezus
19:52:21  <PublicServer> <Owen> ?
19:52:24  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> V4, when will you give up making complicated stations?
19:52:36  <PublicServer> <Combuster> No.
19:52:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> what is complicated
19:52:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> cant see any
19:52:49  <PublicServer> <Combuster> ^
19:52:52  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> FLN FPP
19:53:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> now that is quite simple
19:53:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> and I used this one many times in PSGs. (even so in EVERY PSG some idiots mess with it)
19:53:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> well with TL1 you need overflows atevery pickup
19:53:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> FPP pickup isnt an exception
19:55:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
19:55:32  <PublicServer> <Owen> Combuster, feel free to take any resources to the 4 towns you connected from the RDC :-)
19:55:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> RDC is kinda wealthy :D
19:56:25  <PublicServer> <Owen> CHT doesn't really need 4,112,000 l of water per month :p
19:56:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> but obviously they like it
19:56:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
19:56:54  <PublicServer> <Combuster> I will in due time
19:57:02  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Any places with excess PAX?
19:57:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> send some to FLN
19:57:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> ony 2 trains going there
19:57:23  <PublicServer> <Combuster> I don't have anything to send :)
19:57:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> then why do you ask
19:57:44  <PublicServer> <Combuster>  Because I want to *get* pax :)
19:57:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> :o
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20:01:13  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> y'know
20:01:19  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> a 1TT game
20:01:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> the pz one
20:01:30  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> awesome or killer?
20:01:39  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> PZ isnt 1TT atm
20:01:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> archive
20:02:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> PZ ... 6 ? 4?
20:02:08  <Razaekel> !archive
20:02:08  <PublicServer> Razaekel: http://www.openttdcoop.ORG/wiki/PublicServer:Archive | http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/ProZone:Archive | http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/MemberZone:Archive
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20:02:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> but what did you want to ask?
20:02:47  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> would a 1TT train game be awesome, or would it completely kill the server?
20:03:00  <PublicServer> <Combuster> probably both
20:03:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
20:03:12  <PublicServer> <Owen> In general the clients die before the server ^^
20:03:19  <Razaekel> and it was PZ6
20:03:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
20:03:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> well PZ6 wasnt that awsum imo
20:03:52  <PublicServer> * Combuster is looking for a station to connect DON to
20:04:11  <PeterT> Someone care to join me on #openttdcoop.dev
20:04:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> a TGV station?
20:04:23  <PublicServer> <Combuster> a TGV station, yes
20:04:31  <V453000> send some trains to me
20:04:34  <V453000> to FLN
20:04:48  <PublicServer> <Owen> BTW Combuster, with SUF, note that towns grow better when you drop the pax in the station center
20:04:58  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> oh i know
20:05:05  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> a 1TT SRN game :-P
20:05:15  <Razaekel> yarr!
20:05:57  <V453000> 1 TL SRNW would be insane
20:06:05  <PublicServer> <Razaekel> exactly
20:06:14  <V453000> (the more I am sure I will try to make it at least in SP)
20:06:33  <PublicServer> <Owen> Hmm... SRNW, 1TT, ramming them all through one station?
20:06:40  <PublicServer> <Owen> F.U.N. :P
20:06:45  <V453000> _
20:06:47  <V453000> ):)
20:06:58  <V453000> I would refuse to go for Maglev though
20:07:01  <V453000> [hate]
20:07:04  <Razaekel> we need another server
20:07:06  <PublicServer> <Combuster> 'o.o'
20:07:07  <Razaekel> for playing on
20:07:16  <V453000> lol?
20:07:22  <V453000> PZ PS isnt enough?
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20:07:33  <Razaekel> i wanna make a 1TT SRNW game NAO!
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20:14:04  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Anyway
20:14:09  <PublicServer> <Combuster> lets get rid of this pyramid
20:14:32  <PublicServer> <Kenix> excavation?
20:15:07  <PublicServer> <Kenix> no treasure :(
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20:15:20  <PublicServer> <Combuster> there you have the proof
20:15:26  <PublicServer> <Combuster> cryptthieves had it all
20:15:39  <PublicServer> <Kenix> Bastards!
20:19:30  <PublicServer> <Owen> Whoo, the RDC might actually get used by more than one city :p
20:19:44  <PeterT> they killed Kenix, you bastards!
20:20:02  <PublicServer> <Kenix> :P
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20:25:00  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> what's up with the left hand drive maglev NE of "RDC Central Region"?
20:25:08  <gr00vy> somebody here
20:25:16  <gr00vy> i have a general question
20:25:21  <PublicServer> <Owen> I'm not quite sure
20:25:33  <gr00vy> i have a LL5RR mainline
20:25:47  <gr00vy> but trains only use one side of the LL line
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20:30:20  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Come on fruits, grow faster
20:30:55  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Grass doesn't grow harder when you pull at it...
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20:31:23  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> wrong menu option :/
20:32:04  <PublicServer> <Owen> O_o
20:32:20  <PublicServer> <Owen> Why is it only admitting one train at once? =(
20:33:12  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Remove the signals before each platform
20:33:20  <PublicServer> <Qanael> They're not needed
20:33:34  <PublicServer> <Owen> Perhaps, but still, it's not behaving properly :p
20:33:36  <PublicServer> <Qanael> And put normal signals after them
20:33:45  <PublicServer> <Qanael> After the platforms I mean
20:33:48  <PublicServer> <Owen> The trains are going straight into another PBS block
20:34:04  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Hmm that's odd
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20:34:30  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Try putting it again
20:35:37  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Seems alright now
20:36:12  <PublicServer> <Owen> =S
20:36:18  <PublicServer> <Owen> PBS must have just gotten confused
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20:38:22  <PublicServer> <Owen> Well, things are moving again. In long circles :p
20:40:07  <PeterT> @seen Chris_booth
20:40:08  <Webster> PeterT: Chris_booth was last seen in #openttdcoop 17 hours, 17 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: <Chris_Booth> @tell PeterT you mean see me today? As tomorrow will be monday in my world
20:41:45  <PublicServer> <Owen> Combuster: DON now has a water tower
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20:46:23  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> is it ok if i try to convert the left hand drive section to right hand drive?
20:46:42  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> near "RDC Central Region"
20:46:47  <PublicServer> <Owen> Yes, but disturbing it too much could cause some issues
20:46:57  <PublicServer> <Owen> (We have two 1mil production industries there!)
20:47:21  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> i'll try one part at a time
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20:52:31  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> who is also working on the left hand drive issue?
20:52:34  <PublicServer> <Owen> Me
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20:52:52  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> it would be easier if one did it all
20:53:18  <PublicServer> <Owen> If you want to work on the north section?
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20:53:25  <PublicServer> <Owen> I'm working on finishing the conversion of the main center section
20:53:39  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> i'll wait for you to finish it first
20:53:51  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> bet it's easier that way
20:53:56  <PublicServer> <Owen> OK, ready for you =)
20:54:18  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> i'll start now then
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21:10:51  <PublicServer> <Owen> Whoo
21:10:54  <PublicServer> <Owen> CHT passed 20k
21:14:10  <PublicServer> <Qanael> FIN is shrinking :(
21:14:32  <PublicServer> <Owen> Food required, water required :p
21:14:35  <PublicServer> <Owen> Feed and water them :P
21:14:38  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I know
21:14:53  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I'm trying to find more primaries to feed them
21:15:07  <PublicServer> <Owen> If anything CHT is overfed & watered :p
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21:15:42  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Hmm, I guess I could connect these primaries to the RDC network and take from it
21:15:47  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Would that be ok?
21:16:13  <PublicServer> <Owen> Sure
21:16:17  <PublicServer> <Owen> Feel free to do a 2 way exchange =)
21:16:31  <PublicServer> <Owen> But in that case you don't need an FPP :p
21:16:38  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Yeah, I'll change it up so my primaries to to RDC drop instead
21:16:44  <PublicServer> <Qanael> What's the TL for RDC?
21:17:06  <PublicServer> <Owen> I might need to design a new station for RDC drops from the west in that case =S
21:17:06  <PublicServer> <Owen> 5
21:17:33  <PublicServer> <Owen> Except food pickups, which are 2.5 for mainly historic reasons :p
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21:27:12  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Ooh, an unused farm
21:27:21  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Yoink!
21:27:29  <PublicServer> <Owen> Heh where?
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21:27:49  <PublicServer> <Qanael> SW of Pranville
21:27:53  <Watson> !downloadn lin
21:27:59  <Watson> !download lin
21:28:00  <PublicServer> Watson: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19163/openttd-trunk-r19163-linux-generic-i686.tar.bz2
21:28:06  <PublicServer> <Owen> Heh
21:28:12  <PublicServer> <Owen> Are you still hooking up to the RDC? :p
21:28:24  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I'm considering it
21:28:37  <PublicServer> <Owen> Aaarg PBS induced jam
21:28:45  <PublicServer> <Qanael> You're right that we would have to build another drop
21:28:55  <Watson> !password
21:28:55  <PublicServer> Watson: knifes
21:28:57  <PublicServer> <Owen> The little original one won't cut it any more :p
21:29:03  <PublicServer> <Owen> But I'll manage building another =)
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21:29:23  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I think I'll connect that farm and see how it does, if it's still not enough I'll connect my network to the RDC
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21:30:45  <PublicServer> * Owen starts new drop
21:30:49  <PublicServer> <Qanael> :P
21:30:59  <Thijs> !download win654
21:30:59  <PublicServer> Thijs: unknown option "win654"
21:31:03  <Thijs> !download win64
21:31:03  <PublicServer> Thijs: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19163/openttd-trunk-r19163-windows-win64.zip
21:32:39  <Thijs> !password
21:32:39  <PublicServer> Thijs: brisks
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21:37:31  <PublicServer> <Owen> New drop fully in
21:39:17  <PublicServer> <Owen> How are your food and water issues?
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21:39:37  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Still pretty bad
21:39:47  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I haven't connected the farm yet though
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21:42:30  <PublicServer> <Qanael> What I'm loathing really is changing the stations to TL5, some of them don't have much room
21:42:44  <PublicServer> <Owen> Aah
21:42:45  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Also all the curves are CL2
21:43:34  <PublicServer> <Owen> I can't say I'd be too worried about slowdowns
21:45:01  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I have to go soon
21:45:23  <PublicServer> <Qanael> I'll leave it as is for now, if they're still starving when I come back I'll plug it in
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21:48:25  <PublicServer> * Owen watches water stockpile at RDC shrink slowly and wishes it would go down faster
21:48:52  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Wow, that's a lot of water
21:51:13  <PublicServer> <Qanael> Alright, I'm off
21:51:15  <PublicServer> <Qanael> See you all later
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21:51:33  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> cya
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21:54:22  <PublicServer> <Owen> OMG Stupid
21:54:27  <PublicServer> <Owen> When I removed the old bit of the RDC
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21:54:37  <PublicServer> <Owen> I removed it from the catchment area of the FPP
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22:02:44  <PublicServer> <Combuster> I'm off
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22:02:46  <PublicServer> <Combuster> 'night all
22:02:51  <PublicServer> <Owen> Night
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22:12:16  <ed__> !password
22:12:16  <PublicServer> ed__: tamest
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22:19:36  <PublicServer> <Dr. Watson> something's wrong at RDC central
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22:20:37  <tkjacobsen> !password
22:20:37  <PublicServer> tkjacobsen: ladles
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22:21:48  <Progman> is it normal your head blows up if you try to understand how to declare callbacks in newgrfs?
22:21:58  <PublicServer> <Owen> Just about :p
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22:22:12  <planetmaker> Progman: yes, that's normal
22:26:32  <PublicServer> <Owen> I guess it's not normal my not gates not notting :p
22:26:48  <PublicServer> <Owen> woops :p
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22:32:06  <PeterT> !help reload
22:32:06  <PublicServer> PeterT: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands
22:32:08  <PeterT> !help !reload
22:32:08  <PublicServer> PeterT: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands
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22:35:59  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> and the whole map is supposed to be covered in city things?
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22:58:46  <PublicServer> <ed__> who made BUN station?
22:59:23  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> I dont know
22:59:47  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> no need for that...
22:59:58  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> convert tool
23:00:29  <PublicServer> <ed__> too late
23:00:37  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0001F8FE: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001F8FE.png
23:00:47  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> well now you know :)
23:00:48  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> nite
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23:03:26  <PeterT> Chris_Booth: can we set up that server soon?
23:03:39  <Chris_Booth> tomoz mate
23:03:46  <PeterT> What?!
23:03:48  <Chris_Booth> when i get to university
23:03:51  <PeterT> you said that yesterday!
23:03:52  <PeterT> :-(
23:04:00  <PeterT> "tomoz" I have school
23:04:03  <PeterT> and homework
23:04:03  <Chris_Booth> sorry, please believe me
23:04:08  <PeterT> Fine
23:04:20  <Chris_Booth> send me an email and i will get it up and send you all the stuff you will need
23:04:42  <Chris_Booth> you cant fine my email on the coop site
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23:05:07  <PeterT> can't?
23:05:12  <mitooo> !password
23:05:12  <PublicServer> mitooo: salmon
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23:05:32  <Chris_Booth> you can sorry
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23:05:52  <mitooo> !save
23:05:52  <PublicServer> Saving game...
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23:11:04  <Progman> I thing I get it somehow...
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23:22:23  <PublicServer> <Owen> Whew
23:22:29  <PublicServer> <Owen> The RDC exit packer  is now working =)
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23:23:13  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> how do i find it
23:23:26  <PublicServer> <ed__> look for "This monstrosity"
23:23:52  <PublicServer> <Owen> I wish we had the logic train for this :p
23:24:36  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> what does it do?
23:24:51  <PublicServer> <Owen> It packs the exit traffic, since otherwise you get a very slow moving jam
23:25:55  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> are there supposed to be service depots at RDC?
23:26:05  <PublicServer> <Owen> no why?
23:26:16  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> i see some depots that trains go in and out of continually
23:26:23  <PublicServer> <Owen> They're a train cache
23:26:34  <PublicServer> <Owen> They help even out the load on the station
23:27:42  <PeterT> Chris_Booth: When you "send me the stuff I need", what will that include
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23:30:42  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> i'm kind of horrified by this monstrosity
23:31:06  <PublicServer> <ed__> especially if it's grown organically
23:31:29  <Chris_Booth> PeterT: prevaliged access rights to my server and the username and password
23:31:36  <PeterT> really?
23:31:41  <PeterT> awesome!
23:31:50  <Chris_Booth> yes
23:31:51  <PeterT> Ok, why not just give me those now, and i can do it
23:32:24  <Chris_Booth> as i dont have assecc to my server, as it is in university
23:32:33  <PeterT> Oh
23:32:34  <PeterT> ok
23:32:40  <PeterT> so it can't be remote-controlled?
23:33:06  <Chris_Booth> it can be, but not when its off
23:33:16  <Chris_Booth> i cant remotely turn it on
23:35:31  <PublicServer> <Sander Buruma> do these prios on the monorail mainlines need these many many intermediary little steps?
23:35:43  <PublicServer> <Owen> They need some of them
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