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Log for #openttdcoop on 18th March 2010:
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00:01:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> everything is fine
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00:02:31  <KenjiE20> except for the fact you'll be say "everything is fine" a lot everything is fine
00:04:41  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Well... I think my plan is done... :$
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00:05:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> Zerpa wins for now
00:06:00  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Haha... I can understand that ;)
00:06:19  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> well lets se.. i'm drunk and tired
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00:08:12  <Pirate_87> !clcalc maglev 600
00:08:26  <Pirate_87> @clcalc maglev 600
00:08:26  <Webster> Pirate_87: Required CL for maglev at 600km/h is 7 (13 half tiles) or TL
00:08:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> 100 k pax is too much
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00:12:09  <Pirate_87> @wiki compressor
00:12:12  <Webster> Compressor - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Special:Search?go=Go&search=compressor
00:15:25  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oops.... I clicked yes... Does that matter?
00:15:36  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> ope
00:15:37  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> nope
00:15:40  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Phew
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00:43:59  <Pirate_87> do we have some kind of acceleration calc ?
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01:30:57  <Nite> Hi
01:32:58  <Nite> all afk?
01:34:31  <Nite> strange ...
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01:34:42  <Pirate_87> it's kinda late in here
01:35:35  <Pirate_87> we're mostly from europe, and it's 2:35 AM in here
01:35:51  <Pirate_87> so i wouldn't expect any crowd
01:36:47  <Pirate_87> i'm talking to a wall :P
01:36:54  <Pirate_87> just great
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01:59:23  <Chris_Booth> evening
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02:11:42  <Mark> morning :)
02:21:33  <Mark> sleepies
02:21:39  <Mark> !password
02:21:39  <PublicServer> Mark: stormy
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02:27:23  <V453000> HI :)))
02:27:36  <V453000> how are you?
02:28:38  <Mark> hello :)
02:28:41  <Mark> im great
02:28:44  <V453000> :)
02:28:51  <V453000> shooting kangaroos? :)
02:28:58  <Mark> hehe nope
02:29:09  <Mark> im in darwin atm
02:29:15  <V453000> ooo
02:29:16  <V453000> nice
02:29:18  <Mark> its pretty darn hot here
02:29:22  <V453000> :D
02:29:26  <V453000> here is still snow
02:29:36  <V453000> (which pisses me off really hardú
02:29:38  <V453000> )
02:29:54  <Mark> muhaha
02:30:09  <Mark> its too hot here at times
02:30:23  <Mark> well over 40s
02:30:31  <Mark> sometimes with 100% humidity
02:30:54  <V453000> :D
02:30:57  <V453000> I would die there
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02:31:38  <V453000> what you do there all days? got job? :)
02:31:45  <Mark> well.. you just play tourist in the morning, drive for a few hours, then find a nice pool/beach/lake
02:31:55  <Mark> im not workin yet
02:32:14  <V453000> woow :)
02:32:21  <Mark> im expecting to finish my loop in 2 months, then find me a job around sydney
02:32:36  <V453000> :)
02:32:42  <V453000> its so nice to hear from you
02:32:53  <Mark> thank you :)
02:33:12  <Mark> i love hearing from you guys too
02:33:23  <V453000> :)
02:33:29  <V453000> we miss some insane plans :P
02:33:30  <Mark> i read the blog but its the first time i got a decent and affordable connection
02:33:44  <V453000> :) there bad connection?
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02:34:07  <Mark> well.. i guess its about 100kb/s now
02:34:12  <V453000> :/
02:34:15  <Mark> which is by far the best ive come across
02:34:34  <V453000> well my wifi officially is 5Mbit ... but when it comes to its real speed I dont want to know
02:35:16  <Mark> heh, mine at home is 20mbit, guess im spoiled
02:35:23  <V453000> :D
02:35:40  <V453000> maybe
02:35:44  <V453000> a
02:35:48  <Mark> but then, what can you expect when you're in the absolute center of nothing
02:35:49  <V453000> australia will teach you
02:35:57  <V453000> yeah
02:36:02  <V453000> nature is nice there I guess :)
02:36:03  <Mark> yeah guess it will :P
02:36:13  <Mark> yeah ti sure is
02:36:30  <Mark> awesome beaches
02:36:37  <V453000> haha :)
02:36:49  <V453000> you do some surfing? ^^
02:36:49  <Mark> thoug no swimming around here, with jellyfish and salty crocs
02:37:09  <V453000> awww
02:37:29  <V453000> then the beach is a bit "not that good" :P
02:37:45  <Mark> i didnt surf yet, might give it a try when i settle down for a job somewhere though
02:37:55  <Mark> the beaches are fine down south
02:38:03  <Mark> below the tropics
02:38:04  <V453000> :)
02:38:16  <V453000> what time is it there by the way? :)
02:38:28  <Mark> 12:08 pm
02:38:38  <V453000> nice :)
02:38:49  <Mark> arent you supposed to be sleeping? :P
02:38:55  <V453000> well ...
02:38:57  <V453000> maybe :D
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02:39:03  <Mark> its a good time to be in an air-coed building
02:39:12  <V453000> I believe :D
02:40:03  <V453000> I was to Spain and it was way too enough for me :D too hot
02:40:24  <V453000> ... there was 40 about max I think
02:40:45  <Mark> high humidity is horrible
02:41:02  <V453000> I would guess it is rather dry there :D
02:41:05  <Mark> i'd rather have 45 degrees and 10% humidity than 35 and 90
02:41:11  <V453000> ¨:/
02:41:17  <Mark> up here in the tropics it's soaking wet
02:41:34  <V453000> that sucks
02:41:36  <Mark> in the wet season at least
02:41:46  <Mark> april should be drier and cooler
02:42:05  <V453000> :) I hope in april here FINALLY will be no snow
02:42:15  <Mark> hehe
02:42:18  <V453000> because ... well .. truly enough already
02:42:34  <Mark> yeah i guess
02:43:18  <Mark> seems like you had some pretty decent games
02:43:31  <V453000> well I have to said I am quite impressed lately
02:43:36  <V453000> to say...
02:43:55  <Mark> 177 is cute
02:44:07  <V453000> 177 was kinda mad :D
02:44:09  <V453000> firs ...
02:44:12  <V453000> bu
02:44:18  <V453000> but the mountains rocked
02:45:00  <Mark> that was 178 :P
02:45:12  <Mark> but yeah 178 is cool too
02:45:18  <V453000> ooh
02:45:20  <V453000> yeah :D
02:45:30  <V453000> 177 was kinda weird with the monorails
02:45:38  <V453000> didnt like the TL15
02:45:43  <V453000> so I kinda rebelled with TL1 :D
02:45:51  <Mark> hehe
02:46:03  <V453000> 180 will be insane, I promise :)
02:46:09  <V453000> got a plan already
02:46:36  <Mark> heh, cant wait to see
02:46:58  <Mark> thoug it'll be a while before i get to a somewhat decent city and have a look
02:47:09  <V453000> :D
02:47:12  <V453000> well it will take some time...
02:47:17  <V453000> now is 179
02:47:24  <Mark> not expecting too much of alice springs, with ti being 2000ks from the neatest vcity
02:47:28  <V453000> so you got plenty of time :p
02:47:34  <V453000> ow :)
02:47:49  <Mark> !passsword
02:47:52  <Mark> !password
02:47:52  <PublicServer> Mark: rasped
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02:48:17  <V453000> submit a plan please :)
02:48:21  <V453000> please :)
02:48:29  <PublicServer> <Mark> nah :P
02:48:44  <V453000> would be so cool and amazing
02:48:44  <PublicServer> <Mark> wouldn't be there to help executing anyway
02:48:55  <V453000> I could help that ;)
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02:50:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> ellow :)
02:50:30  <PublicServer> <Mark> :)
02:51:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> just look at the plans! you gotta save us :P
02:52:31  <PublicServer> <Mark> heheh
02:53:06  <PublicServer> <Mark> oh man, i should write something for the folks back home but really cant be bothered
02:53:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
02:53:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> here is home
02:53:40  <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah, you go tell my mum what i just told you :P
02:53:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
02:53:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> worried?
02:54:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> write "I live."
02:54:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> Yet.
02:54:14  <PublicServer> <Mark> heh
02:55:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> good plan needed good plan needed whos it gonna beee
02:56:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> anyways ... your trip all-just-as planned so far? :)
02:56:52  <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah, bit faster than i expected
02:57:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
02:57:14  <PublicServer> <Mark> large parts of the country are completely inaccesible without 4WD
02:57:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> o_O
02:57:25  <PublicServer> <Mark> and i dont want to spend hundreds of dollars on tours
02:57:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> it mountainous there?
02:57:35  <PublicServer> <Mark> no, desterish
02:57:45  <V453000> @dict desterish
02:57:46  <Webster> V453000: No definition for "desterish" could be found in wn
02:57:51  <V453000> argh :D
02:57:56  <V453000> @dict dester
02:57:58  <Webster> V453000: No definition for "dester" could be found in wn
02:57:59  <PublicServer> <Mark> desert-ish :P
02:58:03  <V453000> oh
02:58:05  <V453000> ok :D
02:58:07  <V453000> that i get :)
02:58:21  <PublicServer> <Mark> no one is going to make a make a 2000km sealed highway for 10 people a day
02:58:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
02:58:58  <PublicServer> <Mark> the northern territory is 20 times larger than holland but with only 200k pop
02:59:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> hehe :D
02:59:26  <PublicServer> <Mark> of which by far the biggest part live on the coast
02:59:34  <PublicServer> <Mark> western australia is even worse
02:59:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah
02:59:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> you will have to go south :p
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03:00:11  <PublicServer> <Mark> i've been south :P
03:00:23  <PublicServer> <Mark> im doing a clockwise-loop along the coast
03:00:26  <PublicServer> <Mark> started in sydney
03:00:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> aaahhh
03:00:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> and finishing at sydney again?
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03:01:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> o_O he was even here
03:01:35  <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah
03:01:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> he doesnt know you probably :p
03:01:43  <PublicServer> <Mark> finish in sydney
03:01:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
03:01:51  <PublicServer> <Mark> guess so, dont know him either :P
03:01:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> civilisation at least :p
03:02:12  <PublicServer> <Mark> after sydney i'll try to find a job on some fruit plantation i think
03:02:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> well you won many plans and have many things around alll of the archive...
03:02:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> wow
03:02:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> is it so hot there too?
03:02:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> on the actual plantation? :D
03:02:53  <PublicServer> <Mark> afraid so :P
03:03:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> awww
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03:03:10  <PublicServer> <Mark> thoug by the time i get there it'll be the dry season
03:03:13  <PublicServer> <Mark> meaning cooler and drier
03:03:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> :))
03:03:22  <PublicServer> <Mark> thank god :)
03:03:32  <PublicServer> <Mark> even thoug thunderstorms are nice too
03:03:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah
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03:04:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> pretty cool stuff :)
03:04:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> but I doubt I would do anything like this
03:04:31  <PublicServer> <Mark> how so?
03:04:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> dunno ... somehow not so adventurous probably
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03:05:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> maybe just lazy :D
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03:08:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol my friend goes for a skiing holiday next week :D
03:08:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> insane
03:08:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> its MARCH
03:08:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> almost end actually...
03:08:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> :(
03:10:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> is there EVER snow in Australia?
03:10:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> like in winter?
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03:16:10  <haseo> !password
03:16:10  <PublicServer> haseo: mentor
03:17:02  <haseo> !download win64
03:17:02  <PublicServer> haseo: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19443/openttd-trunk-r19443-windows-win64.zip
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03:19:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
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03:23:10  <haseo> hi V
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03:24:14  <Mark> got to get going
03:24:18  <V453000> :)
03:24:24  <V453000> come sometime later! :)
03:24:27  <Mark> byebye  :)
03:24:29  <Mark> sure will
03:24:30  <V453000> and have a nice trip :)
03:24:32  <V453000> cya
03:24:35  <Mark> thanks
03:24:37  <Mark> cya
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03:24:54  <V453000>  so nice :)
03:25:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi haseo once more :)
03:25:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> was a bit distracted :)
03:25:53  <PublicServer> <haseo> same lol
03:26:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> I guess I will make a plan
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04:17:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok
04:17:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> I am off
04:17:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> cya later :)
04:17:52  <PublicServer> <haseo> same
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08:58:48  <spuuukie> !password
08:58:48  <PublicServer> spuuukie: girder
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10:02:32  <Pirate87> !password
10:02:32  <PublicServer> Pirate87: inborn
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10:03:47  <V453000> ey pirate
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10:07:49  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> hi
10:09:28  <spuuukie> hi@all
10:09:53  <Pirate87> V453000, how does this logic train work ?
10:10:05  <V453000> well simply
10:10:07  <V453000> it is a normal train
10:10:28  <V453000> it only has maxed power, therefore quite instant acceleration
10:11:14  <Pirate87> and what about speed ?
10:12:54  <Pirate87> ohh i get it now :), it's a train used for timers and stuff, right >
10:13:19  <spuuukie> sorry to interrupt, i have a question about signaling... do diagonal tracks count only half length?
10:13:40  <Pirate87> approx
10:14:50  <Pirate87> not excatly, but really close to a half
10:15:10  <spuuukie> so placing a signal every two tiles on diagonal tracks means 2 tiles horizontal + 2 vertical?
10:15:46  <spuuukie> i ask because i want to reduce the gaps in my private game
10:16:28  <Pirate87> did u ever use auto signaling ?
10:16:41  <spuuukie> yep
10:16:44  <Pirate87> it places signals just as they should be
10:16:48  <spuuukie> ok
10:17:22  <spuuukie> i only ask because i read in the openttd wiki that the autoplacer is not correct on diagonal tracks
10:17:37  <Pirate87> ??
10:18:01  <Pirate87> could u paste a link ?
10:18:11  <spuuukie> just searching my history
10:19:38  <spuuukie> http://wiki.openttd.org/Railway_Designs
10:19:52  <OwenS> spuuukie: It's fractionally wrong
10:20:45  <V453000> Pirate: the "LOGIC" word is a key
10:27:54  <Pirate87> "In the openttd engine, trains move slower on angled track (thanks SmatZ!),..."
10:28:01  <Pirate87> never heard of this
10:28:53  <spuuukie> ok so i ignore it and place them as usual :)
10:29:25  <Pirate87> i'd do that
10:29:57  <Pirate87> i think it only applies to very busy networks
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10:45:20  <XeryusTC> V453000: i added some signs to your plan
10:45:27  <XeryusTC> otherwise refitting will go horribly wrong :P
10:45:34  <V453000> what?
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10:45:52  <V453000> I will check back later I am in a very hurry now
10:45:55  <XeryusTC> people should use "Go to nearest depot" orders instead of normal Go to orders
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10:46:06  <XeryusTC> just put some signs saying that on your plan :P
10:46:28  <V453000> I meant go to nearest
10:46:33  <V453000> it isnt stated there how
10:46:36  <V453000> is the order
10:46:45  <V453000> but thanks );
10:46:47  <XeryusTC> it isnt stated on the plan ;)
10:46:58  <V453000> kk thx for clearing up :p
10:47:00  <XeryusTC> so i just added it to avoid some problems later on :P
10:47:04  <V453000> kk
10:47:05  <V453000> nice
10:47:07  <V453000> thank you
10:47:11  <XeryusTC> hehe, np :)
10:47:26  <XeryusTC> i still see it going wrong though, by someone who hasn't read the entire plan :o
10:48:41  <V453000> I will oversee that
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11:23:53  <V453000> Kenji: check out who was here at night :P
11:26:12  <V453000> !password
11:26:12  <PublicServer> V453000: melons
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11:27:40  <KenjiE20> awesome
11:28:10  <KenjiE20> good to know he's keeping up with the games
11:28:58  <V453000> :)
11:29:16  <V453000> he also said the trip is faster than he expected ;)
11:29:49  <KenjiE20> I noticed
11:30:08  <KenjiE20> Well with any luck he'll be hanging out in IRC in a fortnight :)
11:30:28  <V453000> :P
11:30:46  <V453000> I wasnt able to convince him to make a plan though :D
11:31:13  <KenjiE20> heh
11:31:37  <V453000> anyways I was really glad to talk to him :)
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11:33:59  <KenjiE20> heh, he didn't notice your rise though :P
11:34:12  <V453000> rise is waking up isnt it?
11:34:21  <KenjiE20> no, rise to member
11:34:25  <V453000> ah
11:34:28  <V453000> :)
11:34:38  <V453000> that doesnt really matter, does it ? :)
11:34:59  <KenjiE20> no
11:37:21  <V453000> yesterday  I found a relatively nice 1,00 RC2 czech server ... after about an hour they discovered I am from our community :(
11:37:26  <V453000> now they call me maniac
11:37:50  <KenjiE20> haha
11:38:17  <V453000> google told em
11:38:23  <V453000> bitchy searcher .D
11:38:43  <KenjiE20> heh
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11:40:43  <spuuukie> whats wrong to be a maniac? %)
11:40:58  <V453000> nothing at all :)
11:41:03  <spuuukie> :D
11:41:08  <V453000> but they completely separated me from them :D
11:41:27  <V453000> well to be hones being maniac is my life philosophy :D
11:42:40  <spuuukie> sure... and of course its a title which has to be earned ;)
11:43:20  <V453000> :)
11:47:57  <Giddorah_> !password
11:47:57  <PublicServer> Giddorah_: lambda
11:48:04  <V453000> ey
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11:48:17  <Giddorah_> Cool... I switched my lambda today :P
11:48:49  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hey V :)
11:48:51  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Good plan!
11:50:12  <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I got one question though... Where's the Wheat/Paper-part going?
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12:09:00  <V453000> hm?
12:09:14  <V453000> how "where going" ?
12:09:18  <V453000> on ML with the others
12:10:01  <V453000> it looks like this : wheat trains load at farms, go to FPP drop, then refit to food, then pickup the food they created by themselves, drop the food at city drop and then return back to farm, there refit back to wheat and all again
12:11:45  <spuuukie> well this means less trains on the rails or is this just because it could be done?
12:13:03  <V453000> it makes trains more effective
12:13:24  <V453000> if you count it like that normally trains are going 50% of the time with any load
12:13:40  <V453000> this way it is more
12:13:46  <spuuukie> thats right... so they go only 33% without load
12:13:53  <V453000> yeah
12:13:58  <V453000> that is basically the point
12:14:32  <spuuukie> but its a pain in the ass to keep the orders right
12:14:59  <V453000> no
12:15:01  <V453000> very easy
12:15:12  <V453000> I will make an example trainyard so it will be fine
12:15:14  <spuuukie> hmm well thought of it... its just one entry more besides the refit orders
12:15:18  <V453000> or lets ad dan example train now
12:15:19  <spuuukie> right?
12:15:57  <V453000> it isnt
12:16:04  <V453000> there is load - drop - load - drop
12:16:08  <V453000> and 2 refits
12:16:11  <V453000> to make it exact
12:16:15  <V453000> and a waypoint
12:16:24  <V453000> !password
12:16:24  <PublicServer> V453000: saucer
12:16:27  <V453000> I will clarify it
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12:20:19  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> isn't the waypoint unessessary? or are there pathfinding issues?
12:20:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is needed
12:20:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> see that the trains finds the nearest depot
12:20:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> if it searched for that right after the city drop, it would fail badly
12:21:18  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> ahhh
12:21:43  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> makes sense now ;)
12:22:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> kk
12:22:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> if you have any other questions, just feel free to ask ... just as always
12:22:31  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> i keep that in mind ;)
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12:23:20  <V453000> I just wanted to make a plan that has some idea in it ...
12:23:35  <spuuukie> well its not the usual thing
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12:52:17  <PublicServer> Pirate87: crepes
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14:02:42  <pugi> !password
14:02:42  <PublicServer> pugi: butler
14:02:49  <pugi> !dl win32
14:02:49  <PublicServer> pugi: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19443/openttd-trunk-r19443-windows-win32.zip
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14:09:41  <Webster> Latest update from openttd: OpenTTD 1.0.0-RC3 <http://www.openttd.org/en/news/121>
14:16:14  <Giddorah_> Sweet
14:16:21  <Giddorah_> Getting some new hardware for my internet today
14:16:23  <pugi> hm?
14:16:26  <pugi> ah :)
14:16:30  <Giddorah_> Hopefully that'll fix my 4-hour disconnection errors
14:16:44  <Giddorah_> And you don't have to see the "has timed out"-message 6 times each day :P
14:17:03  <pugi> :P
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15:07:11  <V453000> XeryusTC: even with your making clear note some people got confused so I added a train :P
15:07:31  <XeryusTC> zomfg
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15:07:36  <XeryusTC> i saw that you added it
15:07:40  <XeryusTC> the waypoint isn't needed
15:07:56  <XeryusTC> you could just use another goto nearest depot and have another row of depots after the station
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15:10:10  <V453000> well
15:10:13  <V453000> you could
15:10:21  <V453000> but you would need it at the city drop
15:10:27  <V453000> and there is also coal and gold
15:10:34  <V453000> and I think it will be complicated enough
15:10:46  <XeryusTC> but you'd need them somewhere anyway
15:11:02  <XeryusTC> and building them in front of every single primary station is a bit silly imo :P
15:11:07  <V453000> no
15:11:08  <V453000> it is good
15:11:12  <V453000> works also as overflow
15:11:16  <V453000> perfect thing
15:11:25  <XeryusTC> a primary station shouldn't need an overflow
15:11:32  <V453000> well
15:11:34  <XeryusTC> actually, no station on the network should need an overflow
15:11:35  <V453000> does that matter<
15:11:48  <XeryusTC> which means that there is either a low capacity design or too many trains :P
15:11:50  <V453000> it shouldnt but an overflow is just an insurance
15:12:10  <V453000> like for example when there are production changes
15:12:27  <XeryusTC> well, i prefer to not have them in front of primary stations, as i usually identify primaries with too many trains by the cue in front of them :P
15:13:44  <XeryusTC> (i am mostly the one who deletes trains too btw ;) )
15:13:46  <V453000> I think it doesnt matter much :)
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15:27:15  <PublicServer> Giddorah: vocals
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16:34:32  <V453000> !screen
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17:10:38  <V453000> !password
17:10:38  <PublicServer> V453000: mosque
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17:10:56  <V453000> !password
17:10:56  <PublicServer> V453000: caking
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17:11:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
17:11:35  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> howdy
17:11:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> hey Thraxian :)
17:11:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> I am fine today :)
17:12:05  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> I sure hope this game starts soon - otherwise all the forests close :(
17:12:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> doesnt matter ;) we can fund more
17:12:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think even funding, not prospecting is no
17:12:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> on
17:12:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes it is
17:13:08  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> yeah - but it's more fun to use the pre-generated ones, in my opinion
17:13:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> true
17:13:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> well prospecting simulates that a bit
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17:21:00  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> heh - DeGhost's plan is ...minimalistic
17:21:19  <V453000> >D
17:21:21  <V453000> ;D
17:21:22  <V453000> yes
17:21:32  <V453000> nice network design also
17:22:01  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> V - can I stop your train?  it seems a bit wasteful to keep refitting it at this point in the game....
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17:34:10  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> do you have lags too?
17:42:59  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> no lag here
17:43:11  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> working in another window, so switched to spectator
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17:49:16  <V453000> of course Thrax
17:49:53  <Zerp> entire game hangs for a few second every now and then here
17:50:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont get that what you said :o
17:50:53  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> it lags :P
17:51:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> no surprise for me :p I always lag
17:51:42  <XeryusTC> hmm, not much going on here
17:52:01  <V453000> ^ +1
17:52:14  <XeryusTC> vot'd
17:52:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> ah :)
17:52:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> thx
17:53:02  <V453000> @stage planning and voting
17:53:02  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #179 (r19443) | STAGE: planning and voting | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | Welcome to the depths of insanity"
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18:15:02  <OPENTTNOOB> Alright so I installed OpenTTD. Put OpenGfx/Opensfx in the data folder but when I try to run it i get an error saying I dont have "sample.cat"
18:16:23  <Ammler> install newer openttd, for example 1.0.0-RC3
18:16:35  <Ammler> and still #openttd is the channel :-P
18:17:32  <OPENTTNOOB> >.< I was over there got my question answered and then ran into this and found a link here =P
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18:19:23  <V453000> lol :D
18:19:47  <V453000> he is lucky he didnt see our stuff
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18:25:25  <Kolbur> !dl win32
18:25:25  <PublicServer> Kolbur: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19443/openttd-trunk-r19443-windows-win32.zip
18:28:04  <Kolbur> !password
18:28:05  <PublicServer> Kolbur: quartz
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18:30:31  <Zarenor-AFK> !players
18:30:32  <PublicServer> Zarenor-AFK: Client 87 (Orange) is Giddorah, in company 1 (Geborough Transport)
18:30:32  <PublicServer> Zarenor-AFK: Client 100 (Orange) is Kolbur, in company 1 (Geborough Transport)
18:30:32  <PublicServer> Zarenor-AFK: Client 91 is Thraxian, a spectator
18:30:32  <PublicServer> Zarenor-AFK: Client 95 (Orange) is V453000, in company 1 (Geborough Transport)
18:30:32  <PublicServer> Zarenor-AFK: Client 96 (Orange) is XeryusTC, in company 1 (Geborough Transport)
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18:30:54  <Zarenor> Guess who's back, for the time being?
18:31:06  <Zarenor> !dl win64
18:31:06  <PublicServer> Zarenor: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19443/openttd-trunk-r19443-windows-win64.zip
18:31:07  <KenjiE20> me?
18:31:10  <V453000> heyy
18:31:11  <V453000> :D
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18:31:12  <Guest1470> Are you?
18:31:15  <Guest1470> Argh
18:31:19  <KenjiE20> lol
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18:31:41  <Zarenor> BTW, Gratz V
18:31:52  <V453000> ah :) thans
18:31:54  <V453000> thanks
18:32:06  <V453000> u werent here for quite a while, huh? .p
18:32:19  <Zarenor> I pop in every few weeks/months
18:32:24  <V453000> :)
18:32:30  <Zarenor> whenever I get the feeling for some OTTD
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18:32:44  <Thorinbur> !playercount
18:32:44  <PublicServer> Thorinbur: Number of players: 4
18:32:51  <Thorinbur> !players
18:32:53  <PublicServer> Thorinbur: Client 87 (Orange) is Giddorah, in company 1 (Geborough Transport)
18:32:53  <PublicServer> Thorinbur: Client 100 (Orange) is Kolbur, in company 1 (Geborough Transport)
18:32:53  <PublicServer> Thorinbur: Client 91 is Thraxian, a spectator
18:32:53  <PublicServer> Thorinbur: Client 96 (Orange) is XeryusTC, in company 1 (Geborough Transport)
18:32:55  <Pirate87> !password
18:32:55  <PublicServer> Pirate87: quartz
18:33:05  <Thorinbur> new game?
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18:33:41  <Thorinbur> yes. New game
18:33:52  <Thorinbur> i need to add myself to previous one
18:34:30  * KenjiE20 often wonders how hard can it be to remember a 3 digit number
18:34:53  <Zarenor> Depends on your number system
18:35:01  <Zarenor> in decimal that we use, not doo hard
18:35:11  <Zarenor> imagine in septimal?
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18:35:26  <Zarenor> or other weird ones
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18:36:35  <KenjiE20> maybe we should renumber all our games in base 15 just for a laugh
18:36:45  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> base 15?
18:36:49  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> that wuould be weird
18:36:50  <KenjiE20> and then hexlify them
18:36:57  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> I mean some people remember binary and hex
18:37:02  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> lol
18:37:03  * Pirate87 hopes to get at least one vote, other than his own
18:39:06  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> lol@ ghost
18:39:47  <V453000> oh sorry Thorinbur :( somehow forgot you in the list
18:39:55  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> no its ok
18:39:58  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> It was there
18:39:59  <V453000> ;)
18:40:02  <PublicServer> <Kolbur> hard to compete with V453000's insanity :D
18:40:19  <V453000> :o
18:40:25  <PublicServer> <Kolbur> i mean your plan ;)
18:40:29  <V453000> I am normal person with healthy brain!
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18:41:00  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> RIIIIIGHTTTTTT
18:41:18  <V453000> :( really§
18:41:19  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> And I'm Frank Sinatra
18:41:23  <V453000> :D
18:41:26  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> ;)
18:41:26  <V453000> me too actually
18:41:29  <V453000> nice to meet you
18:41:51  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> and you!
18:41:53  <Thorinbur> yeah! I was thinking about use of trains rebuilding
18:41:53  <Pirate87> why does my name look strange on the sign in the screenshot ?
18:41:57  <Thorinbur> for a long time
18:42:35  <V453000> :)
18:42:48  <V453000> Thorinbur: we used it once already I think
18:42:54  <Pirate87> Thorinbur, you meant 'refitting' ?
18:43:05  <V453000> probably yes ;)
18:43:19  <KenjiE20> Pirate87: you don't vote yourself, you already voted
18:43:34  <Pirate87> oh :)
18:43:41  <Pirate87> didn't know that :P
18:43:43  <Thorinbur> hmmm.. in my Polish version it's "przebuduj" and it translates to rebuild
18:43:45  <Pirate87> sorry
18:43:49  <KenjiE20> it's how democracy works
18:44:13  <Pirate87> oh yeah
18:44:24  <Pirate87> our localization sucks
18:44:33  <Thorinbur> ...
18:44:53  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> hmmm
18:44:59  <Pirate87> i just use english version
18:45:01  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> I can't think of any wtty plan
18:45:13  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> *witty
18:45:15  <Thorinbur> hmm maybe i should use one too
18:45:33  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> so,perhaps i'll be back when something gets decided on
18:45:37  <Thorinbur> with this number of NewGRF it is half english anyway
18:45:41  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> god luck all
18:45:44  <PublicServer> <ZarenorDarkstalker> *good
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18:46:21  <Pirate87> really ?
18:46:33  <Thorinbur> yeah
18:46:40  <Thorinbur> espetially with FIRS last game
18:46:54  <Thorinbur> half of goods were translated and half of them didnt
18:47:07  <Thorinbur> so you were delivering sand to take "towary"
18:47:37  <Pirate87> it's really hard to translate english to polish properly
18:47:47  <Thorinbur> not really
18:47:54  <Pirate87> some words just don't exist in polish
18:47:58  <Thorinbur> just newGRF's arent always translated
18:48:08  <Pirate87> i meant generally
18:48:21  <Thorinbur> well refitting można przetłumaczyć na dopasowywanie.
18:48:25  <Thorinbur> lol...
18:48:31  <Pirate87> ;D
18:48:37  <Zarenor> ....?
18:48:48  <Zarenor> 3 words to say it correctly?
18:48:56  <Pirate87> he just switched languages in the middle of a sentence :P
18:49:01  <Zarenor> I saw that'
18:49:04  <Thorinbur> i hate when i talk/write in english and use some Polish word...
18:49:17  <Pirate87> kinda weird :)
18:49:20  <Thorinbur> Sometimes i just like in the sentence above swith language
18:49:26  <Zarenor> Ahhhh
18:49:27  <Thorinbur> so:
18:49:47  <Thorinbur>  well refitting could be translated as dopasowywanie.
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18:50:54  <Pirate87> no polish word fits there perfectly
18:50:55  <Thorinbur> heh I'ts hard to think both Polish and English at the same time. When i write in English i think in English so i don't translate usualy what i want to type. Just type, so when i start thinking in Polish i start typing in Polish
18:51:08  <Zarenor> I understand...
18:51:18  <Thorinbur> There is a lot of Polish words that cannot be translated to English as well
18:51:30  <Thorinbur> *There are
18:51:45  <Zarenor> in Everquest 2, another online game, some of my friends lived in japan, and worked as japanese to english (or vice-versa) translators
18:51:56  <Pirate87> me too, i've learned english so long i somethimes think in english when i walk down the street ;P
18:52:12  <Zarenor> They could type in english wel
18:52:21  <Zarenor> but were reluctant to get on teamspeak, becasue then
18:52:36  <Zarenor> they start thinking in japanese, or talking to other people outside of the game in japanese
18:52:37  <KenjiE20> that's not surprising
18:52:48  <KenjiE20> they're taught dual lingual in Japan
18:52:57  <Zarenor> and have to think about it to switch back to english
18:52:58  <Thorinbur> translators sux but thanks to them you can often find funny texts
18:53:19  <Zarenor> Depends on the translators
18:53:26  <Zarenor> They were fairly fluent
18:53:39  <Zarenor> but I've seen a lot that make me wonder about the rest of the translators
18:53:53  <Zarenor> or if they just put it in a bad translation program
18:53:54  <Thorinbur> than theye were only translating single words
18:54:12  <Thorinbur> when you try to tranlslate whole sentences its funny
18:54:41  <Thorinbur> like for example hudge bilboard in japan/chinese saying: "Service temporary unavaible"
18:54:49  <Thorinbur> I bet that was some online translator XD
18:55:16  <Pirate87> or some inside joke, we didn't get :P
18:55:42  <Thorinbur> In the bilboard on the streat?
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18:55:50  <V453000> Thorinbur: I hate any translations in game ... as an example I often put the CNC3 cZ localization - Annihilator Tripod was named to "Trojnožka" which would be translated as "Tri-leggie" ... The ultimate power unit of my favourite race ...
18:56:15  <Thorinbur> Trójnóżka XD
18:56:21  <V453000> exactly
18:56:29  <V453000> Annihilator ...
18:56:31  <V453000> lol.
18:56:51  <Thorinbur> Yeah some things shouldn't be translated
18:56:54  <Thorinbur> Like self-name
18:56:56  <Thorinbur> s
18:57:03  <V453000> yeah
18:57:04  <Pirate87> or jokes
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18:57:12  <Thorinbur> Exactly
18:57:19  <Pirate87> !password
18:57:19  <PublicServer> Pirate87: rumped
18:57:22  <spuuukie> hi :)
18:57:22  <V453000> well annihilator is international word ... and tripod too
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18:57:31  <V453000> so if it was kept it could even be comprehensive imo
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18:58:37  <spuuukie> !password
18:58:37  <PublicServer> spuuukie: rumped
18:58:41  <Pirate87> but some things don't sound right after translation :P
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18:59:14  <Thorinbur> RDA from Avatar was translated to ZPZ... AMP Suite to PZM...
18:59:42  <Zarenor> ZPZ? WTF?
18:59:43  <Thorinbur> It's good that in the movie they left it without translation
18:59:49  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> am i allowed to vote too?
18:59:55  <Thorinbur> Zarząd Pozyskiwania Zasobu
18:59:56  <Pirate87> even when done well Annihilator Tripod just sounds silly in polish
19:00:02  <Thorinbur> *Zasobw
19:00:16  <Thorinbur> Trjnogi anihilator
19:00:22  <V453000> :D
19:00:31  <Zarenor> lol
19:00:32  <Pirate87> Anihilujący trójnóg :P
19:00:42  <Thorinbur> lol. Even beter
19:00:49  <Thorinbur> but no
19:00:54  <V453000> it actually was one of the strongest units of the whole game ... :D
19:00:56  <V453000> atop of it
19:01:11  <Thorinbur> Anihilujący trójnóg would be: Annihilating tripod
19:01:20  <V453000> yeah I thought that
19:01:40  <Thorinbur> Another funny thing about translators
19:01:48  * Pirate87 wonders what others see when he types ą or ę :)
19:02:07  <Thorinbur> put there text in one language and then put translation and translate to original language again
19:02:09  <Zarenor> I have toe correct fonts installed, so I see actual characters
19:02:17  <Zarenor> *the
19:02:56  <Thorinbur> zażółć gęślą jaźń
19:03:41  <Pirate87> lol :)
19:03:44  <Thorinbur> all Polish special characters in one sentence
19:03:52  <V453000> :D
19:03:54  <Thorinbur> but dont ask me to translate
19:03:59  <V453000> I wondered what does that mean :D
19:04:00  <Zarenor> Oh?
19:04:11  <V453000> but I guess it is meaningless
19:05:10  <Pirate87> oh it means something
19:05:30  <Thorinbur> hmmm yellow(as verb) goose's ego?
19:05:54  <Pirate87> more or less :)
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19:06:57  <Pirate87> to yellow goose's concince ?
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19:08:33  <Thorinbur> lol... concince? After googling that i get answers for convince (on the first page for example: " How to convince my mom to have sex with me" Google is sometimes scarry
19:08:50  <Thorinbur> to yellow to bezokolicznik
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19:09:08  <Thorinbur> to by było zażółcić gęślą jaźń
19:09:18  <Thorinbur> w sumie też działa XD
19:10:04  <Pirate87> it's enough :)
19:10:35  <Thorinbur> Lets finish Offtopic
19:10:39  <Thorinbur> I voted
19:10:47  <Thorinbur> and i voted for V's plan
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19:11:11  <Thorinbur> hope it wont end like previous game XD in loooong preparations :P
19:11:34  <Thorinbur> with people comming and asking? Do we have trains yet?
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19:11:44  <Pirate87> it's not like i don't belive in myself, but i smell a landslide
19:13:20  <Pirate87> unless a new plan will pop out
19:13:46  <Thorinbur> hmmm LLLL_RRRR
19:14:11  <Thorinbur> Building Hub willl be a lot of fun :P
19:14:47  <Thorinbur> TL5
19:14:51  <Thorinbur> even more fun
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19:18:59  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> everyone leaving so soon?
19:21:26  <Pirate87> there isn't much to do
19:21:30  <V453000> ._. soonleavers :P
19:21:52  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> V: is your goods processing station the one that turns paper to goods?
19:22:02  <V453000> also oil
19:22:13  <V453000> paper and oil -> crates
19:22:20  <V453000> nice synergy :D
19:22:23  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> ok - that wasn't 100% clear to me from the plan - mind if I add a sign?
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19:22:35  <V453000> of course :) add
19:22:47  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, still logged in
19:22:52  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> heh
19:23:20  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> I can cast a vote and declare a winner, unless you think it's too soon?
19:23:31  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> too soon imo
19:23:50  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> that was my only concern, to be honest
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19:24:13  <PublicServer> <Thraxian> but wanted to offer, in case there were some ready to begin building
19:24:31  <XeryusTC> it is going to be a one sided battle anyway probably
19:24:32  <Pirate87> the voting started like an hour ago
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19:25:49  <V453000> there are so many votes already?
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19:25:52  <V453000> !screen
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19:26:09  <V453000> not that many :)
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19:28:23  <V453000> !password
19:28:23  <PublicServer> V453000: footed
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19:28:34  <V453000> come on
19:28:36  <V453000> :D
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19:36:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> the most funny thing would be choosing wagons :) because we have a very nice choice of those, each having a bit different ratio of Wheat:Food or Paper:Goods
19:37:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> boxcars, flatcars, container cars, roadtrailers :)
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19:43:50  <XeryusTC> V453000: as much 1:1 as possible ;)
19:43:57  <V453000> no
19:43:58  <V453000> that is the point
19:44:05  <V453000> you also have livestock and oil
19:44:15  <V453000> livestock mainly
19:44:34  <XeryusTC> if you'd have 1:1 then all trains will take the goods that are produced by the primary cargo it delivered
19:44:40  <V453000> yes
19:44:51  <V453000> but that would require to eliminate LV and oil
19:44:55  <V453000> and that I dont want
19:45:01  <XeryusTC> why would it?
19:45:01  <V453000> I say this will work
19:45:07  <XeryusTC> or cant they be converted?
19:45:16  <V453000> yeah these cant
19:45:31  <V453000> it works only for wheat and paper
19:45:56  <XeryusTC> hmm, ok :o
19:45:58  <V453000> which is in boxcars, hicube boxcars, roadtrailers, trailer on flatcars, flatbed, and container cars
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19:46:04  <V453000> anyways this is a huge scale
19:46:22  <V453000> so I believe we can manage it
19:46:34  <XeryusTC> i think you could possibly balance it per primary
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19:46:49  <XeryusTC> although you'd also need to balance on a larger scale
19:47:10  <V453000> yeah
19:52:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> anyways ... most of the wagons have abou 1xWheat:2xFood ... which means if LV:WH is 1:1 then it works
19:52:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> LV wagons are 35 capacity though, which is a little lower
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20:15:47  <Drunkzilla> !dl win32
20:15:47  <PublicServer> Drunkzilla: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19443/openttd-trunk-r19443-windows-win32.zip
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20:42:29  <KenjiE20> if (strtoupper(substr(PHP_OS, 0, 3)) === 'WIN') {
20:42:32  <KenjiE20> / WIN
20:42:39  <KenjiE20> hmm
20:42:44  <KenjiE20> damn right click
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20:45:14  <V453000> you won lottery Kenji? :D
20:45:20  <V453000> or just hacking it ?
20:46:18  <KenjiE20> PHP_OS <_ OS detection
20:46:33  <V453000> ok that I completely understand :D :P
20:50:13  <KenjiE20> didn't realise that was in the clipboard still
20:50:30  <hylje> I understand completely.
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20:50:42  <cat666> hi :)
20:50:49  <hylje> hi cat
20:51:08  <cat666> !password
20:51:08  <PublicServer> cat666: mussel
20:51:16  <V453000> meow
20:51:24  <V453000> (that is "hi")
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20:51:33  <cat666> xD
20:51:53  <cat666> aw ... still planing :(
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20:52:28  <V453000> well we are planning only for a day :D
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20:53:18  <V453000> everybody hide, Kenji is in game!
20:53:44  <PublicServer> <Kenji> oh that's why the map's half a meg already
20:53:47  <PublicServer> <Kenji> it's full of trees
20:54:27  <V453000> :| they still grow
20:55:23  <cat666> when will the planing phase be finished?
20:55:44  <KenjiE20> @quickstart
20:55:46  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart
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21:11:36  <Pirate87> !screen
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21:26:34  <Giddorah> !password
21:26:34  <PublicServer> Giddorah: brassy
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21:31:38  <V453000> Ammler: how to increase this : *net_frame_freq  please? :)
21:33:05  <KenjiE20> same way you set everything else
21:33:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> just over rcon
21:37:43  <Drunkzilla> hi, what's rcon?
21:38:50  <KenjiE20> remote console
21:38:58  <XeryusTC> remote control
21:39:34  <Drunkzilla> hmm.. ok I do not understand this.. why does OTTD say, that I might try changing some parameter, when I can't get to it?
21:40:06  <XeryusTC> because it is their default solution
21:40:12  <XeryusTC> !rcon set net_frame_freq
21:40:12  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: 'net_frame_freq' is an unknown setting.
21:40:18  <XeryusTC> !rcon set network.net_frame_freq
21:40:18  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: 'network.net_frame_freq' is an unknown setting.
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21:41:19  <Drunkzilla> hmm :X
21:42:56  <Drunkzilla> Ok I try different question... Can I (and how) change *net_frame_freq?
21:43:11  <XeryusTC> that's odd, net_frame_freq isn't in the config
21:43:19  <XeryusTC> nor is anything else with frame or freq in it :o
21:43:28  <Drunkzilla> I know
21:43:41  <XeryusTC> better ask in #openttd then :P
21:43:48  <OwenS> XeryusTC: Removed setting?
21:43:54  <Drunkzilla> That's why I am asking here, because OTTD console did say to change that
21:44:24  <XeryusTC> Drunkzilla: well, in #openttd they know more about openttd's internals than here
21:44:25  <Drunkzilla> XeryusTC:  good idea :d
21:44:36  <Drunkzilla> ya.. I'll try that, ty
21:45:08  <XeryusTC> this channel is mainly for the PublicServer and general irc randomness :P
21:45:15  <V453000> :D
21:45:17  <V453000> :)
21:45:39  <KenjiE20> !rcon set frame_freq
21:45:39  <PublicServer> KenjiE20: Current value for 'frame_freq' is: '0' (min: 0, max: 100)
21:45:47  <KenjiE20> helps if you use the right setting
21:45:58  <OwenS> Renamed? :P
21:46:10  <KenjiE20> no, network is the prefix
21:46:25  <KenjiE20> which you don't need when it's a unique name
21:46:27  <XeryusTC> KenjiE20: why didn't a search find anything with frame or freq then?
21:46:37  <KenjiE20> cause it's not in the cfg file
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21:46:52  <XeryusTC> how odd :o
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21:47:15  <OwenS> Wouldn't !rcon list_vars have helped? :p
21:47:23  <KenjiE20> it's not a var
21:47:28  <KenjiE20> list_settings would
21:47:35  <KenjiE20> but that's a big list
21:47:36  <OwenS> Meh
21:47:48  <XeryusTC> any list_* command has a huge output
21:47:52  <OwenS>  /msg it
21:48:00  <KenjiE20> list_vars doesn't
21:48:02  <KenjiE20> it's list 4
21:48:17  <OwenS> Also, wouldn't "!rcon list_settings frame" have been much shorter? :p
21:48:23  <KenjiE20> s/list/like/
21:48:31  <KenjiE20> probably
21:52:41  <Ammler> I guess, the setting is useless
21:52:58  <Ammler> used it quite often, but can't really see a difference
21:53:21  <Ammler> the only advantage is less traffic
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21:56:30  <Drunkzilla> Well the setting my help V to stay ingame for more than 1sec with me :d
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22:03:54  <V453000> !password
22:03:54  <PublicServer> V453000: budged
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22:11:37  <V453000> XeryusTC: lol :D fail - all food wagons are 1:1 with wheat
22:13:54  <XeryusTC> nice :P
22:19:51  <XeryusTC> hmm, i was just thinking, maybe we should promote more people to members
22:19:55  <XeryusTC> so they all become inactive
22:20:00  <XeryusTC> and PS games dont take as long :P
22:20:04  <KenjiE20> lol
22:20:07  <XeryusTC> PS games take longer*
22:20:27  <OwenS> XeryusTC: Huh? More members = More inactives? Eh?
22:20:39  <KenjiE20> members don't play.... ever
22:20:41  <KenjiE20> :P
22:20:44  <XeryusTC> loads of members only play a few games :P
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22:21:20  <OwenS> And some of our members don't seem to play any more (*cough* Mucht :P )
22:21:48  <KenjiE20> he was in a game not too long ago actually
22:22:02  <OwenS> O___o
22:22:24  <hylje> membership just kind of keeps us around
22:22:39  <KenjiE20> we should rename members to lurkers
22:22:46  * OwenS and Mucht obviously work on clocks 180deg out of phase
22:23:02  <KenjiE20> might've been before you turned up again
22:23:10  <master-sonic> !password
22:23:10  <PublicServer> master-sonic: sadder
22:23:24  <XeryusTC> actually, members only administrate the community but are not active in it :P
22:23:49  <XeryusTC> and do side jobs to get themselves known in the OTTD community, like all the Open?FX stuff :P
22:24:17  <KenjiE20> we say, "You what would be nice" a lot
22:24:37  <KenjiE20> then maybe one of us has a go
22:24:41  <KenjiE20> :)
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22:25:31  <XeryusTC> indeed
22:25:38  <XeryusTC> maybe we should change the requirements to become a member
22:25:48  <XeryusTC> anyone with good ideas should be a member :P
22:25:51  <KenjiE20> nah, they work as they are
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22:26:56  <V453000> if you reduce the requirements, then you throw people such as YOU guys with ... well ... others less honorable ... me halfway there :P
22:27:13  <V453000> throw together
22:27:20  <OwenS> I should revive my logic signals patch... then watch as it sits unused because NAND gates are apparently too un-TTD-like :p
22:27:35  <KenjiE20> hehe
22:27:44  <XeryusTC> OwenS: write an improved signs patch :P
22:27:51  <XeryusTC> multi line signs, more characters etc :P
22:27:55  <hylje> improved improved signs
22:28:02  <OwenS> XeryusTC: Hehe
22:28:14  <hylje> and a built in web browser
22:28:16  <XeryusTC> hylje: i only made an improved sign interface patch :P
22:28:24  <XeryusTC> and music library!
22:28:37  <V453000> and a download manager pls
22:28:39  <KenjiE20> OpenTTDOS
22:28:43  <V453000> :D
22:28:53  <XeryusTC> a tile based OS :')
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22:29:07  <KenjiE20> I quite like how that ends up with DOS in it
22:29:08  <XeryusTC> we dont need window managers, we have a map array!
22:29:09  <KenjiE20> fitting
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22:29:39  <KenjiE20> heh, savegames as desktops
22:30:03  <V453000> that would mean absolute insanity
22:30:04  <XeryusTC> have trains as interfaces between applications and the internet :P
22:30:05  <KenjiE20> whatever happened to that OTTD Screensaver?
22:30:15  <V453000> lol
22:30:35  <XeryusTC> KenjiE20: under windows you *should* be able to use regular ottd as screensaver :P
22:30:52  <KenjiE20> I know, I remember the thread
22:31:12  <XeryusTC> one would just have to rename openttd.exe to .scr and somehow convince windows to run it with -g <savegame> :P
22:31:56  <KenjiE20> or change opntitle.dat
22:32:10  <OwenS> Someone should make an OpenTTD XScreenSaver patch
22:32:42  <Kolbur> !password
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22:32:42  <PublicServer> Kolbur: clasps
22:32:43  <XeryusTC> that someone could be you!
22:33:01  <KenjiE20> "It could be You!" *giant cloud finger*
22:33:13  <OwenS> XeryusTC: Unfortunately, XScreenSaver is pretty gnarly
22:33:45  <OwenS> Also, then I'll get thousands of "Add KScreenSaver support! Add GnomeScreenSaver support!" requests
22:34:32  <KenjiE20> hmmmm
22:34:41  <KenjiE20> aalib as a video driver
22:34:44  <KenjiE20> >_>
22:34:52  <OwenS> no.
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22:34:55  <KenjiE20> lol
22:34:57  <OwenS> silly.
22:34:59  <KenjiE20> yes
22:35:02  <KenjiE20> very
22:35:07  <KenjiE20> but now I want to see it
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22:35:57  <OwenS> How about 80x50 on CGA 16-color text mode? :p
22:41:03  <OwenS> KenjiE20: Also see http://www.oldskool.org/pc/8088_Corruption :P
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22:41:40  <KenjiE20> ahhh scene.org
22:44:17  <Pirate87> !screen
22:44:17  <PublicServer> *** Pirate87 liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png)
22:46:27  <V453000> cool screen, huh?
22:47:37  <Pirate87> just wanted to see the voting board :) and i got it
22:49:54  <XeryusTC> OwenS: aalib as openttd blitter would be awesome :D
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23:06:53  <cat666> g2g ... cu :)
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23:08:35  <V453000> I think I will make a connection test
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23:32:46  <Chris_Booth> evening all
23:32:55  <Pirate87> hi
23:36:39  <XeryusTC> yarr
23:37:47  <Chris_Booth> !password
23:37:47  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: gouges
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23:40:54  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i would say we have a winner
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23:41:31  <Pirate87> oh come on
23:41:39  <Pirate87> 5 votes
23:41:49  <Chris_Booth> and everyone else has 0
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23:41:55  <Pirate87> i'm not long here, but i've seen more every time
23:42:13  <Pirate87> yeah i know that :/
23:42:39  <Chris_Booth> i might make a plan tomoz
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23:43:13  <Chris_Booth> !password
23:43:13  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: martyr
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23:43:29  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> actualy i am going to make one now
23:45:51  <Pirate87> i'm thinking of making some changes in my plan
23:46:03  <Pirate87> but something's telling me it's pointless
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23:59:39  <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Pirate87: is there cargo maglev in this set?
23:59:53  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> did not check that :/

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