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Log for #openttdcoop on 21st March 2010:
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00:50:33  <haseo> !password
00:50:33  <PublicServer> haseo: downed
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01:14:58  <Baeda> !password
01:14:58  <PublicServer> Baeda: sauces
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01:15:21  <V453000> ppl joining for night-time session? :D
01:15:39  <PublicServer> <haseo> its not night here ;-)
01:15:53  <V453000> u from?
01:16:37  <PublicServer> <haseo> you don't remember huh
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01:18:17  <XeryusTC> V453000: i would like a night time session with you ;) ^^
01:18:35  <V453000> :D
01:18:43  <V453000> lets see if I can connect ...
01:19:35  <V453000> !password
01:19:36  <PublicServer> V453000: sauces
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01:19:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> yippeee
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01:20:15  <XeryusTC> spoke too soon :P
01:20:15  <V453000> who built the SL 1
01:20:30  <V453000> LOL?
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01:20:57  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> lol
01:21:10  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> someone clearly didnt think about that line at the trainyard
01:21:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> hmmm
01:21:41  <PublicServer> <haseo> if you don't like it then get stuffed
01:21:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> "get stuffed" ?
01:21:58  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it is just that they're about to run into the trainyard ;)
01:22:18  <PublicServer> <haseo> industry blocking near tresdhattan
01:22:42  <PublicServer> <haseo> yeah, well just have to move it
01:24:00  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> V453000: the paper/goods trains orders should work now :D
01:24:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
01:24:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> one thing
01:24:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> goods isnt full load
01:24:50  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> buffering is done anyway ;)
01:25:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes but it is better to keep it flowing imo
01:25:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> the "flow control" is already based on the paper output
01:26:05  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm, ok :o
01:26:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> who is continuing to the trainyard?
01:27:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok nobody
01:27:07  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i guess haseo
01:27:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think too
01:27:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> even though the SL will not be there ...
01:27:39  <PublicServer> <haseo> fix your map then
01:27:40  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> nor will it be a 2x2 line
01:27:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> ^
01:27:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> fix your map?
01:28:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> whats wrong
01:28:32  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0000C851: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000C851.png
01:28:36  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i smell a bad attitude :P
01:28:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> I can just see the actual SL going all around the island
01:28:38  <PublicServer> <haseo> left corner shows diagonal line
01:28:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> ?
01:29:10  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i think that was mostly meant as bypass the watery part
01:29:51  <PublicServer> <haseo> your map shows it through the middle of the water
01:30:27  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> haseo: the map allows some room for interpretation
01:30:37  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it is not like it is exactly to scale
01:30:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> what is that L doing there?
01:31:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> for V - realing here
01:31:01  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and, in case you haven't noticed, the ML has been put down already
01:31:17  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> lol @ zombie island :')
01:31:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
01:32:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> just a question: where do you want to lead the SL from there? besides you have a kinda trainyard in the way
01:33:48  <PublicServer> <haseo> ha, good luck fitting MSH 02 in
01:34:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> what does that have to do with SL01
01:34:19  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> how would that line fix it?
01:34:35  <PublicServer> <haseo> well grain goes from there to the FPP
01:34:56  <PublicServer> <haseo> but need to access to farms to the north of the islands somehow
01:35:11  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> which goes through the ML
01:35:44  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> honestly, i dont see the point except from you being a rebellous teenager in a bad mood
01:36:09  <PublicServer> <haseo> huh, your the one doing all the complaining
01:36:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> maybe with a reason
01:36:40  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> proving my point there ;)
01:37:02  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> basicly we ask what's going on, you act all aggressive
01:37:30  <PublicServer> <haseo> no you start of in a huge bitch session, then ask who built it
01:38:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok lets get to some solution, right?
01:38:19  <XeryusTC> <XeryusTC> someone clearly didnt think about that line at the trainyard
01:38:19  <XeryusTC> <+PublicServer> <V453000> hmmm
01:38:19  <XeryusTC> <+PublicServer> <haseo> if you don't like it then get stuffed
01:38:25  <XeryusTC> just to point out ;)
01:38:33  <PublicServer> <haseo> I was going to ask V about what he had in mind that that area
01:38:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes, besides
01:38:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> maybe not the best way to start a question with get stuffed
01:39:31  <PublicServer> <haseo> you know usually, we plot the tracks before we build them too
01:39:48  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> we do?
01:39:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> I guess I know what we do usually
01:39:55  <PublicServer> <haseo> sings
01:39:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> plus since when do we plot SLs
01:40:02  <PublicServer> <haseo> signs
01:40:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> and also - if you think that then why do you build when there are no signs
01:40:25  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> may i point out to you that you are talking to two members over here, of which one is the oldest still playing member
01:40:47  <OwenS> And the oldest almost-became-a-member is about to join in :p
01:41:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> :p
01:41:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> and a fresh awesome-patch-releaser :P
01:41:30  <OwenS> V453000: I released an older NAND patch back then. Hardly fresh :p
01:41:33  <OwenS> !password
01:41:33  <PublicServer> OwenS: quails
01:41:38  <V453000> right :D
01:41:40  <PublicServer> *** Owen joined the game
01:41:54  <OwenS> New patch has no code in common though :p
01:41:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> but now kinda "updated" releser :p
01:42:10  <OwenS> OpenTTD had changed  so much I couldn't have copied any if I'd tried :p
01:42:19  <V453000> :)
01:42:42  <PublicServer> <Owen> Oh wow paper pickup's depots are pretty
01:42:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> anyways ... lets get back to our topic ... I am deleting the SL right now, k?
01:43:03  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> Owen: i know, but thanks :)
01:43:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
01:43:34  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0000D65B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000D65B.png
01:43:48  <PublicServer> <Owen> They'd be even prettier if I'd set OpenGFX on...
01:43:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> naw
01:44:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> these rock
01:44:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> but I like NewDepots grf
01:44:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> the grey ones
01:44:20  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but then they wouldn't fit in with the rest of the game ;)
01:44:31  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> Ameecher's depots you mean?
01:44:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes I think these
01:44:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> they are grey and have a triangle-like roofs
01:44:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> with yellow doors
01:45:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> or ... door frames
01:45:06  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yeah
01:45:10  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> Ameecher's depots
01:45:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> kk
01:45:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> now I know :)
01:46:32  <PublicServer> <Owen> V453000: Are those things at paper drop really flipflops? =S
01:46:39  <V453000> yes
01:46:44  <PublicServer> <haseo> if they ever fix that grf tool so it doesn't delete un-used sprites from the file without warning I might actually make some trains again
01:46:51  <V453000> 1->2 and 1->3s
01:47:26  <PublicServer> <Owen> V453000: OK... They're a new kind of flip flop to me, since most I know have Set/Reset inputs, or clocks :p
01:47:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> what? unused sprites?
01:47:38  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> grfcodec doesnt remove unused sprites
01:47:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> this is basically set/reset
01:48:05  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> grfcodec always did exactly what i asked of it
01:48:16  <PublicServer> <Owen> I have, locally, a save file containing D flip-flops and latches :p
01:48:21  <PublicServer> <Owen> (Made using the NAND signals)
01:48:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
01:48:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> looking forward
01:49:11  <PublicServer> <haseo> I made a rs flip flip using just one train and a few signals
01:49:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> ... I doubt we will use a patched OTTD on our servers ... but we could launch one on .dev
01:49:46  <PublicServer> <Owen> V453000: Hehe. or prod the devs :p
01:49:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
01:50:05  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> V453000: actually the PS is heavily patched ;)
01:50:20  <PublicServer> <Owen> XeryusTC: But only with non-client-affecting patches :p
01:50:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> well but with user pathes
01:50:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
01:50:28  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> true
01:53:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> I stopped the logic trains again, k? ... they just eat 90k a year
01:53:12  <PublicServer> <Owen> 90k? Wow, expensive
01:53:17  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> why were they moving anyway?
01:53:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> well each takes 3k and there is 30
01:53:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> dont know, someone started em :)
01:56:31  <PublicServer> <haseo> < wasn't me
01:56:54  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i might've just doen one of the weirdest things ever :P
01:57:12  <PublicServer> <Owen> what?
01:57:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
01:57:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> prio
01:57:28  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> see near Sjaak :P
01:57:43  <PublicServer> <Owen> Ooh
01:57:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is what? :) the Sjaak?
01:58:03  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> BBH1
01:58:04  <PublicServer> <Owen> The freako :p
01:58:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok
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01:58:58  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i wonder how hard that exit will break down
01:59:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> lets believe it wont, right? :p
01:59:31  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> just put signs down anyway :P
02:00:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> .)
02:00:33  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> see !!massive slow
02:00:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes I know
02:00:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> easy to fix
02:00:55  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> haseo: ^
02:00:56  <PublicServer> <Owen> ugh
02:01:19  <PublicServer> <haseo> even I can fix that one in 1 minute
02:01:45  <PublicServer> <Owen> I though we had JPHouses loaded for a min... phew
02:01:54  <PublicServer> <Owen> (Tower block on Zombie Island :P )
02:02:15  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hehe :D
02:02:33  <PublicServer> <Owen> V453000: You built  the merger before the sttaion? :P
02:02:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> u mean teh city drop?
02:03:29  <PublicServer> <Owen> yes
02:03:32  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> heh, i have a problem with that merger :P
02:03:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> it has to look
02:04:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is the prio
02:04:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
02:04:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is the reason it is there
02:04:14  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but for both tracks?
02:04:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
02:04:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> well the tracks are actually one
02:04:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> just doubled because of bridges
02:04:32  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, i get it
02:04:45  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> you basicly have trains join halfway on doubled bridges
02:04:48  <PublicServer> <Owen> V453000 is the confusing king :p
02:04:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
02:05:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes I do :)
02:05:13  <PublicServer> <Owen> Hmm V... don't the yall join on only one half of the bridge?
02:05:22  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> V453000: maybe you want to shift trains on the west most track then
02:05:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes that was also an idea ... but lets see how it works out
02:05:50  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> heh, ok :)
02:05:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> the signals should allow joining to all lines equally
02:06:08  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> *should*
02:06:26  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh crap :S
02:06:39  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i knew i forgot something xD
02:09:00  <PublicServer> <haseo> I'm trying to make sense of the wood pickup loop below SLH 02
02:09:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> want some explanations?
02:10:19  <PublicServer> <haseo> its just two tracks in, two out right ?
02:10:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> basically 3 in, 4 out
02:10:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> these signals were wrong
02:13:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> haseo: can you please just fix/finish SL01
02:13:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> thank you
02:13:38  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0003B521: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003B521.png
02:13:41  <planetmaker> he... reading that: "rebellous teenager in a bad mood" fits the picture.
02:13:58  <PublicServer> <haseo> too bad its not true
02:13:59  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> build a paper mill
02:14:04  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and a feeding train for now
02:15:46  <PublicServer> <haseo> no point going too far with SL01, no idea which farms will still be open when the FPP is finished
02:16:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> well you could fix the 1-minute bridges
02:17:06  <PublicServer> <haseo> fix it yourself, honestly I don't understand the jargon, sorry
02:17:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> ?
02:18:13  <gleeb> If not for the fact that I'm not on my own PC, I'd install OpenTTD and hop in.
02:18:39  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> get the zip package etc, then you can just play without needing to install :P
02:18:58  <OwenS> He'd still have to download the GRF pack
02:20:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is also just copying ;)
02:20:35  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> indeed
02:20:43  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> you can play ottd without the need to run an installer
02:20:58  <planetmaker> yes... ./start ps &
02:21:00  <planetmaker> :-)
02:25:54  <gleeb> ps?
02:25:56  <gleeb> O.o
02:26:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> playstation
02:26:18  <planetmaker> PublicServer? :-)
02:26:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> :P
02:26:30  <PeterT> Umm, what game have you guys been playing?
02:26:38  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> pm: or ./ps.sh :P
02:26:57  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> in my case :P
02:27:11  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> V453000: we need that town drop :P
02:27:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> I am building the hub alreadz
02:27:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> alredy
02:27:25  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> heh, ok
02:27:26  <planetmaker> !password
02:27:26  <PublicServer> planetmaker: lulled
02:27:30  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> didnt notice :P
02:27:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> sneaky
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02:27:49  <planetmaker> hm, we should generate income. Quickly and massively
02:27:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> welcome pm
02:27:56  <planetmaker> hello folks
02:28:13  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> is there an effective MM?
02:28:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> depends on how you describe effective :p
02:28:40  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00008C2B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00008C2B.png
02:29:24  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hm. someone spent 1.7M on "other" things
02:29:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> no idea what is that
02:29:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> bribes? :/
02:29:40  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> bribing last year
02:29:47  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it was i
02:29:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
02:29:52  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> bribes?!
02:29:53  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> town didnt accept trees anymore :(
02:30:13  <PublicServer> <haseo> not even if you ram them up their...
02:30:20  <Chris_Booth> lol
02:30:26  <Chris_Booth> what a time to pop in
02:30:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi CB
02:30:32  <Chris_Booth> and say night all
02:30:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> got 50k already? :P
02:30:37  <PublicServer> <Owen> lol
02:30:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> nite
02:30:43  <Chris_Booth> and please dont stike to many trees up there.....
02:30:44  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hi & night
02:30:46  <PublicServer> <Owen> nite
02:30:53  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> gn
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02:31:10  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> V453000: 50k of what?
02:31:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> city pop
02:31:16  <PublicServer> <Owen> Is it just me... or do those two ponds look like a funny face?
02:31:33  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> these two ponds?
02:31:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> which ones
02:31:43  <PublicServer> <Owen> Where the drop is going :p
02:31:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes they do :D
02:32:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> eyes :P
02:32:43  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> xD
02:32:57  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it really is you :P
02:33:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> and now who spends useless $, right? :D
02:33:57  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> zerpa is too pbs happy :(
02:34:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
02:34:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> maybe it is just unfinished
02:34:32  <uliko> !password
02:34:32  <PublicServer> uliko: jalopy
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02:35:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> welcome :)
02:35:11  <PublicServer> <uliko> hey
02:35:11  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> wow uliko :)
02:35:13  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> long time no see :)
02:35:15  <PublicServer> <uliko> :P
02:35:17  <PublicServer> <uliko> indeed
02:35:43  <PublicServer> <uliko> hah, that's funny, last game i played here was another refit game :P
02:35:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> woow
02:35:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is way back
02:36:08  <PublicServer> <uliko> yeah
02:36:15  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> im still awake, i must get another piece of pie :D
02:36:31  <PublicServer> <uliko> been on and off since, uh, 05? 06? whenever pile transport was  the name of the game on the mz
02:36:35  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> he :-) I remember your name... but long time ago, I think, uliko:-) welcome back!
02:36:53  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> and now time for bed
02:37:00  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> have a good night all
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02:37:02  <PublicServer> <uliko> nice to be remembered :)
02:37:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> cya pm
02:37:05  <PublicServer> <uliko> night
02:37:11  <OwenS> I thought the name looked familia
02:37:12  <OwenS> r
02:39:00  <PublicServer> <uliko> paper drop... what the hell?
02:39:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> eh
02:39:19  <PublicServer> <Owen> The logic :p
02:39:22  <PublicServer> <Owen> or... illogic?
02:39:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> madness ...
02:39:49  <OwenS> Madness? THIS. IS. SPARTA!
02:39:51  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> learned a lesson just now, never try to move a piece of pie with a blade which is meant for cutting it
02:39:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah :D
02:39:57  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> instead of a pie spoon xD
02:40:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
02:40:14  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> in a room which is too dark for pie moving anyway :P
02:40:19  <OwenS> XeryusTC: Here we have big blunt blade-like things designed for both cutting and carrying :p
02:40:34  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i ended up with two main pieces on my plate, of which one is upside down xD
02:40:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> oooh
02:40:49  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> owen: i know, it is in the dishwasher though
02:40:54  <OwenS> XeryusTC: heh
02:41:10  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh correction, one piece is upside down, the other is on its side :P
02:41:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
02:41:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok
02:41:49  <OwenS> Meh. I've managed to move cheesecakes with regular knives :p
02:42:11  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> its a big piece of floppy pie
02:42:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> Ive managed to stuff em into my mouth before moving em with knives
02:42:36  <PublicServer> <haseo> you just needed a bigger knife
02:43:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> or smaller pie ^^
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02:43:44  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> less talk more eating *nom nom nom*
02:43:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
02:45:17  <OwenS> XeryusTC: You're doing it wrong. It's "Om nom nom nom nom". One om, four noms :p
02:45:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D ok
02:45:48  <XeryusTC> one can also go nom nom nom :P
02:45:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> or nom
02:46:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> .
02:46:02  <XeryusTC> anyhow, pie done now :(
02:46:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
02:46:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> haseo: could I have a note?
02:47:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> that junction isnt actually needed
02:47:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> the 3 lines should go straight into pickups
02:47:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> and the pickups then join the LL or RR
02:47:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> as an exit
02:47:40  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> there are some CL issues here and there :P
02:47:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> besides...
02:47:51  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i think that's zerpa's fault though
02:47:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
02:48:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> that isnt
02:48:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> zerpa has an eye for cls already
02:48:50  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> heh, ok :)
02:49:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> he even fixed some in the last game
02:51:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> @cl
02:51:37  <V453000> @cl
02:51:37  <Webster> cl: Curve Length, mostly used to describe how big a curve must be to let pass trains with a certain TL at full speed, see also: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Max_Curve_Speed
02:51:42  <V453000> haseo ^
02:54:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> heey
02:54:49  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> that's me ;)
02:55:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> the A connects to B?
02:57:51  <PublicServer> <Owen> Ugh.. TTDwin stations are fugly :p
02:57:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> I know
02:58:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> I might replace later
02:58:05  <XeryusTC> :P
02:58:13  <PublicServer> <Owen> Or just turn on OpenGFX
02:58:16  <PublicServer> <Owen> Like I will be doing :p
02:58:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> that sucks twice
02:58:28  <PublicServer> <Owen> OpenGFX is awesome :p
02:58:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> not my opinion
02:58:44  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0001F2CD: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001F2CD.png
02:58:59  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> indeed, original is better :P
02:59:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> pixel art has the detail
02:59:25  <PublicServer> <Owen> ...so does OpenGFX's...
02:59:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> not really
03:01:10  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, we've got ML trains now btw :D
03:01:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> o_O
03:01:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
03:02:32  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm, nice income :D
03:02:35  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> 110k :D
03:02:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> :|
03:03:03  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> not enough for you sir?
03:03:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh you got doubles
03:03:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> I got 50k ;ú
03:03:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> ;)
03:03:25  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> euro :P
03:03:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> still fine though
03:03:39  <PublicServer> <Owen> Everyone should use GBP. The game's official currency :P
03:03:54  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i dont so for a while
03:04:00  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> done*
03:04:10  <OwenS> TBH, at current exchange rates, Euro and GBP are pretty muchat parity :p
03:04:15  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> maybe i should edit ottd so it sees euro as *1
03:04:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> well when czech people use CZK, then they have everything in billions ...
03:04:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> Euro/Pounds still better
03:05:24  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> lol, one train left just as the other was 5 tiles away :D
03:06:10  <OwenS> hehe
03:07:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok I fixed the SL1
03:07:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> at least bridges for now
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03:07:34  <OwenS> Night
03:07:35  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it has syncs :s
03:07:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> syncs are right
03:08:00  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> someone in SL2 decided to take sync over CL
03:08:05  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> making 1 tile corners :(
03:08:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> I kinda know who actually
03:08:22  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> jup
03:08:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> eeze to fix
03:08:37  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> done so already :)
03:08:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> well
03:08:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> that slows too
03:09:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> the eastern tunnel of the two?
03:09:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is a 2x45
03:09:28  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> no
03:09:34  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> they were all synced
03:09:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh lol
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03:09:44  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> like what i put down just now :P
03:10:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> see?
03:10:20  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> actually it is easy to sync these again :P
03:10:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes I know
03:10:25  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh right xD
03:10:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> btw this train is awesome
03:11:42  <V453000>  http://www.youtube.com/user/v453000?feature=mhw4#p/f/67/CrPFNnE964Q <- about the pie <-
03:11:43  <Webster> Title: YouTube - v453000's Channel (at www.youtube.com)
03:12:18  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> train 42 decided to get lost
03:12:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> PUNISH!
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03:14:04  <XeryusTC> that ninja pirate is only cool because it talks pirate
03:14:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
03:14:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> and pees on ppls head
03:14:40  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> that too
03:15:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> well he doesnt do anything else at all :P
03:16:14  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> almost -3mil in construction last year :o
03:16:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> above 30%is frmo me
03:16:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> maybe 50
03:16:56  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> heh xD
03:17:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> omg 4:17 again
03:17:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> damn
03:17:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> time = primal enemy
03:17:49  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i know :P
03:18:00  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i might actually be addicted to ottd
03:18:05  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i wanted to go to bed 3 hours ago :P
03:18:21  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> instead i did this and ate pie :o
03:18:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> night session, huh
03:18:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
03:18:46  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> :D
03:21:01  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> pbs is odd
03:21:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> indeed
03:21:12  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it stops trains if you put a reverse signal in a reserved path
03:22:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok I put down some buses to grow Lesley
03:23:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> in order to accept goods
03:23:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> lets set town growth to 1, ok?
03:23:17  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> sure
03:23:38  <V453000> !rcon set town_growth_rate 2
03:23:51  <V453000> !rcon set town_growth_rate 1
03:24:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> k done
03:24:02  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> bah, short attention span
03:24:11  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i just looked at the city drop when you said that
03:24:24  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and i immediatly forgot what i was doing
03:24:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
03:24:32  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and my spelling isnt getting better with this lack of sleep :P
03:24:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
03:24:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> dont tell mey
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03:27:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> off for sleep? :)
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03:27:51  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> harr harr
03:27:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
03:27:55  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> my euro is worth only half now!
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03:40:04  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> harr harr
03:40:11  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> servicing one industry with two stations :P
03:40:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> ^^.D
03:40:37  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> St. Dralow
03:40:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> I see
03:41:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> btw. I also have a 4-trainset combo where I transfer all primaries with 1:1 ratio
03:41:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is US trainset (this), Tropic refurbishment set, DB set and UKRS
03:41:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> very cool
03:41:35  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> heh, ok :)
03:41:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> each has trains in some age so they swap still and you have all the wagons you need
03:41:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> really awsum
03:41:56  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> how long before the first parts of town drop can be used?
03:42:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> hub needs mergers
03:42:19  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm, ok :o
03:42:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> and goods processing too
03:42:39  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i'll wait a bit with building trains then
03:42:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> you can help me ;)
03:43:04  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> signalling some stuff currently
03:43:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> kk
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03:46:51  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> done signalling
03:47:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
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03:48:43  <Thorinbur> !password
03:48:43  <PublicServer> Thorinbur: pokier
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03:50:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi there
03:50:15  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> wow
03:50:20  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hello
03:53:12  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> lol
03:53:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> dont say that
03:53:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> :P
03:53:24  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> this game is insane
03:53:25  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ?
03:53:38  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> not my fault this time
03:53:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> no, I just think Thorinbur found paper drop
03:54:05  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> i think i wont touch it XD
03:54:06  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> :D
03:54:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> it sane
03:54:24  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> no i was talkinggenerally
03:54:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> for the next game I have much simplier plan ;)
03:54:52  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> finished the joiner
03:54:56  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it only needs some prios :)
03:55:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> nice
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03:56:34  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it might not be a good thing this
03:56:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
03:56:45  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it gives prio to the station xD
03:56:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> but lets keep
03:56:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> :p
03:56:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> w/e
03:58:12  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> who build that extra station at St. DralowHeights?
03:58:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol
03:58:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> not me
03:58:31  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i got that far ;)
03:58:32  <PublicServer> <uliko> i did
03:58:41  <PublicServer> <uliko> im rebuilding the 3->2x2 split so i need space
03:58:44  <PublicServer> <uliko> just havent gotten that far yet
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03:58:54  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> heh, ok :)
03:58:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
03:59:22  <PublicServer> <haseo> should have been built closer to the junction, to get the other 2 wood lots
03:59:54  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> build some paper trains :D
04:00:04  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> all going to the wrong WP first xD
04:00:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> cool
04:00:34  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> reordered their orders to fix that the next time :P
04:00:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> kk good
04:01:07  <PublicServer> <uliko> live trains makes it so much more obnoxious to rebuild stuff
04:01:32  <PublicServer> <haseo> more missing signals lol
04:01:33  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> just get used to it ;)
04:01:55  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> uliko: you're in for a treat now :D
04:02:18  <PublicServer> <uliko> oh my
04:02:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> Printing Works created
04:02:45  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, that's usefull too :P
04:03:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> Logic trains released
04:03:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> AHAHAHAHAH
04:03:12  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> wee
04:03:16  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> not gates working
04:03:25  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> haseo: !still CL yours?
04:03:27  <PublicServer> <haseo> lag increasting :P
04:03:52  <PublicServer> <haseo> not sure what to do there, not enough space
04:04:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> move bridges?
04:04:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh there
04:04:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
04:04:40  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> haseo: do it like that ;)
04:04:58  <PublicServer> <haseo> still the problem of the other half
04:06:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah I thought it will not work with the exit signals :)
04:06:32  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> heh yeah :(
04:06:46  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> seems depots adapt if there are pbs signals
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04:06:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> yarr
04:08:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> train 44 lost a gain
04:08:07  <PublicServer> <uliko> that was probably my bad
04:08:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> kk
04:08:17  <PublicServer> <haseo> shame no garbage trains in this one
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04:09:11  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> running trains in depot have running costs :(
04:09:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> ye
04:09:38  <PublicServer> <uliko> ok should be all done now. Lets see if 44 can find its way
04:11:02  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> are all players watching train 44 now?
04:11:08  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> no :P
04:11:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
04:11:14  <PublicServer> <uliko> 43 is closer anyway
04:11:17  <PublicServer> <Thorinbur> :(
04:11:32  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> 48 natm
04:11:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> me too
04:11:49  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> not paying alot of attention to it though
04:12:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> well it gained 60k for the paper dropped
04:12:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> and now the goods
04:12:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> gonna own
04:12:29  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> added more paper trains
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04:13:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> aaaaanddddddddd
04:13:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> drop it
04:13:32  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, there already :D
04:13:44  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> not too bad for 1/3 load
04:13:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> 50k for about 40 percent load
04:13:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> ye
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04:14:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> if full, then it could be a brutal amount
04:14:15  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> 150k :P
04:14:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
04:14:23  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> 70k for the paper
04:14:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah
04:14:28  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> 220k per round trip :D
04:14:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> very nice imo
04:14:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> I just love the refitting :)
04:14:45  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> indeed :)
04:14:48  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> quite a good income :D
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04:15:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> the goods trains need some oil though
04:15:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> to make them fuller
04:16:03  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> true
04:16:16  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> dont feel like making SLHs atm though
04:16:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> and a station
04:16:43  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> that too :P
04:19:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> added 1 train to StDralow Woods
04:19:31  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i just did that too :P
04:19:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> there was only one
04:19:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> 3 are still fine
04:20:01  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, odd
04:20:07  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i just added a 3rd a few mins ago
04:20:20  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> made Dreeway woods :)
04:20:26  <PublicServer> <haseo> there is room for a 3rd platform there, just
04:20:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
04:20:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> XeryusTC: I just "fixed" the !desync ... whoever put there that sign
04:21:05  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> not me
04:21:12  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i stab people who complain about desyncs
04:21:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> I know you didnt :p
04:21:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
04:21:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> this makes CL
04:21:28  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> xD
04:21:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> I lenghtened it
04:21:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> ;)
04:21:43  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> all in the name of sync xD
04:21:46  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> this looks stupid
04:21:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> but works
04:22:46  <PublicServer> <haseo> the complex bypass tracks at dreeway woods are kind of useless at the moment lol
04:23:04  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yes
04:23:10  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but more stations will come >:)
04:23:14  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> half past 5 already
04:23:21  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> maybe i should go catch some Zs
04:23:22  <PublicServer> <haseo> always good for lost trains anyway
04:23:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> me too
04:23:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> Zs needed
04:23:56  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> trains go in colorful and come out green :D
04:24:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
04:24:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> that I also like
04:24:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> when trains recolor
04:24:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> wheat/food will remain the same though
04:24:34  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i think the refit centre needs to be placed before the platofrm chooser though
04:24:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> true
04:24:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> or make logic flipflops ;)
04:24:59  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> lets not do that :P
04:25:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> .)
04:25:13  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but all trains pick the same platform atm :(
04:25:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> ye
04:25:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is what I feared
04:25:38  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> St. Dralow Heights can currently do with 3 trains
04:25:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> kk
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04:29:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> u think that will help?
04:29:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> lets see
04:29:59  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> no it wont
04:30:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> they still go to "nearest"
04:30:15  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but i meant to change the location of the depots too
04:30:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah
04:30:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> omg
04:30:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> light
04:30:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> sleep now or never :D
04:30:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> cya
04:30:59  <PublicServer> <uliko> bye
04:31:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> thx for ALL-night session ;)
04:31:16  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> :D
04:31:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> well if I said I didnt expect that then I would lie :o
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04:31:51  <V453000> so ... good morning to you and bye :D
04:32:13  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hehe, gn indeed
04:32:16  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i'll follow :D
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09:15:36  <PublicServer> jondisti: sirred
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10:01:15  <PublicServer> Thijs: gabled
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10:28:49  <PublicServer> <Thijs> anyone around?
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10:39:24  <Pirate87> !info
10:39:24  <PublicServer> Pirate87: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Geborough Transport'  Year Founded: 1950  Money: 38703663  Loan: 0  Value: 39458900  (T:59, R:6, P:7, S:0) unprotected
10:39:44  <Pirate87> we've got some trains running ?
10:39:58  <PublicServer> <Thijs> apparently
10:40:13  <OwenS> Pirate87: Many are logic. A couple of ML when I left last  night
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10:44:23  <Pirate87> !password
10:44:23  <PublicServer> Pirate87: lazies
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10:48:21  <V453000> we had to run some income
10:48:29  <V453000> btw. heyy :)
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10:52:47  <PublicServer> <Thijs> i'm quite happy with my compact merge, but just found out it will never be used...
10:53:15  <V453000> where?
10:53:20  <V453000> !password
10:53:20  <PublicServer> V453000: lazies
10:53:23  <PublicServer> <Thijs> paper drop
10:53:48  <OwenS> NANDNG-v2 is cooking...
10:53:55  <V453000> jesus :D
10:54:06  <OwenS> Just fixes a few bugs
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10:54:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> :) funny merge
10:54:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> almost invisible
10:55:37  <PublicServer> <Thijs> but it will not be used anyways
10:55:48  <PublicServer> <Thijs> only maybe forrefinery trains
10:55:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
10:55:55  <PublicServer> <Thijs> which still need a station...
10:55:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> just these
10:56:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok i am off for lunch now
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10:57:52  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> V453000: i'm looking at your hypnotizer for like 15 min. and still have no idea how it works :P
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11:09:18  <N101> !help
11:09:19  <PublicServer> N101: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands
11:10:19  <N101> !downlaod
11:10:23  <N101> !download
11:10:24  <PublicServer> N101: !download autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x
11:10:35  <N101> !download win64
11:10:35  <PublicServer> N101: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19443/openttd-trunk-r19443-windows-win64.zip
11:12:40  <N101> !password
11:12:40  <PublicServer> N101: uneven
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11:15:24  <OwenS> V453000 and others: New patch release, http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=47690
11:15:25  <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums • View topic - NAND::NG - New NAND signal patch for OpenTTD (at www.tt-forums.net)
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11:18:05  <PublicServer> <Thijs> i need some ideas
11:18:16  <PublicServer> <Thijs> how to connect something
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11:18:29  <PublicServer> <N101> Im a newb so im no help :P
11:18:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> back
11:18:56  <PublicServer> <Thijs> specifically, A to B
11:19:18  <PublicServer> <Thijs> don't want to rebuild everything
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11:20:14  <csuke> !players
11:20:16  <PublicServer> csuke: Client 367 (Orange) is jond1sti, in company 1 (Geborough Transport)
11:20:16  <PublicServer> csuke: Client 124 (Orange) is Giddorah, in company 1 (Geborough Transport)
11:20:16  <PublicServer> csuke: Client 369 (Orange) is Thijs, in company 1 (Geborough Transport)
11:20:16  <PublicServer> csuke: Client 371 (Orange) is Pirate87, in company 1 (Geborough Transport)
11:20:16  <PublicServer> csuke: Client 373 (Orange) is V453000, in company 1 (Geborough Transport)
11:20:18  <PublicServer> csuke: Client 375 (Orange) is N101, in company 1 (Geborough Transport)
11:20:19  <csuke> !password
11:20:19  <PublicServer> csuke: jazzed
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11:21:15  <spuuukie> hi@all
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11:21:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
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11:22:10  <PublicServer> <csuke> lo
11:22:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> i
11:24:43  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> nice u already have some trains running
11:24:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> had to get cash
11:26:08  <PublicServer> <Thijs> now just one nasty connection to go
11:26:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
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11:30:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> Thijs: want help?
11:30:10  <PublicServer> <Thijs> yes
11:30:17  <PublicServer> <Thijs> please
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11:30:56  <OwenS> V453000: Played with the patch at all yet? I'm interested to see what contraptions you can come up with :P
11:31:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> later
11:31:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> aww
11:31:57  <PublicServer> <Thijs> CL...
11:32:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> lets move it one more tile
11:32:07  <PublicServer> <Thijs> guess so
11:32:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> I will move the NOT by that time
11:34:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
11:35:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> hm?
11:35:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> :P
11:35:09  <PublicServer> <Thijs> ;)
11:36:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> nice mess _
11:36:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
11:36:31  <PublicServer> <Thijs> ALMOST FORGETTING WHAT I AM DOING
11:36:37  <PublicServer> <Thijs> and capslock
11:36:39  <PublicServer> <Thijs> ..
11:36:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> duh :D
11:37:27  <PublicServer> <Thijs> hmm
11:37:48  <PublicServer> <Thijs> can
11:37:55  <PublicServer> <Thijs> you still signal there
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11:38:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> this is not a CL
11:38:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is 4 tiles
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11:38:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> train never gets to two I think
11:38:25  <PublicServer> <Thijs> ehm, right
11:38:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> see
11:38:53  <PublicServer> <Thijs> good
11:40:02  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> lol, we've got a lot of people right now :)
11:40:11  <N101> :P
11:40:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
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11:41:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> hey nighttimer
11:41:43  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ello
11:42:08  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> how odd, i just woke up and the first thing i do is get some breakfast and fire up ottd
11:42:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
11:42:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> I didnt even get breakfast
11:42:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> ... got lunch instead :D
11:42:41  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> addict :P
11:42:54  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> heh well, this is my breakfast stuff at lunchtime :D
11:42:55  <PublicServer> <Thijs> how many platforms for refinery drop terminus?
11:43:05  <PublicServer> <Thijs> will nine ne enough?
11:43:16  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> terminus?
11:43:25  <PublicServer> <Thijs> i think we need a reminus
11:43:29  <PublicServer> <Thijs> cause of space
11:43:34  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> added some paper trains
11:43:37  <PublicServer> <Thijs> but roro is possible
11:43:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
11:43:56  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> well, one can always change the in ine
11:44:11  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ref in is bugged
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11:44:20  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it blocks trains on the ML :(
11:44:23  <PublicServer> <Thijs> ah
11:44:25  <PublicServer> <Thijs> i see
11:44:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> PBS ftw
11:44:48  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> pbs ftl
11:44:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes I know ,... but in this case
11:45:05  <KenjiE20> signals ftw
11:45:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think it could work if it wont slowdown
11:45:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> as PBS is dumb
11:45:22  <PublicServer> <Thijs> lets see
11:45:44  <PublicServer> <Thijs> wait, there is enough space to fix it
11:46:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> kk
11:47:39  <V453000> !rcon allow_town_roads = false
11:47:39  <PublicServer> V453000: ERROR: command not found
11:47:51  <V453000> !rcon set allow_town_roads = false
11:47:52  <PublicServer> V453000: - Change setting for all clients. Usage: 'setting <name> [<value>]'
11:47:52  <PublicServer> V453000: - Omitting <value> will print out the current value of the setting.
11:48:11  <V453000> just made them not grow without our agreement
11:48:26  <KenjiE20> no you didn't
11:48:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> worked not
11:48:30  <PublicServer> <V453000>  Isee
11:48:33  <KenjiE20> !rcon set allow_town_roads
11:48:34  <XeryusTC> silly man
11:48:34  <PublicServer> KenjiE20: Current value for 'allow_town_roads' is: 'on' (min: 0, max: 1)
11:48:37  <KenjiE20> !rcon set allow_town_roads 0
11:48:37  <PublicServer> KenjiE20: ERROR: This command/variable is not available during network games.
11:48:42  <XeryusTC> no need for = in setting patches :P
11:48:47  <V453000> :)
11:48:58  <V453000> if is false, not zero! :D
11:49:13  <KenjiE20> false == 0
11:49:16  <V453000> thx Kenji
11:49:18  <V453000> yes I know :)
11:49:24  <KenjiE20> but false !== 0
11:49:27  <KenjiE20> :P
11:49:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> ... :D
11:49:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok
11:50:02  <KenjiE20> anyway, if you'll note, I didn't change it either
11:50:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> aww
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11:50:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> didnt even check :D
11:50:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi Razmir
11:50:26  <PublicServer> <Razmir> hi
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11:50:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> :O
11:52:14  <PublicServer> <Razmir> I just came to watch this show again :-) better than TV
11:52:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
11:52:21  <N101> lol
11:52:38  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> sometimes coop is like a soap
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11:54:02  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm
11:54:10  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> a forest disapeared while it was being serviced :(
11:54:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> bitch
11:55:02  <KenjiE20> XeryusTC: Sometimes?
11:57:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> N101 bored and placing signs? :D
11:57:19  <PublicServer> <N101> Not quite
11:57:27  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> V453000: see !cl in paper drop
11:57:28  <PublicServer> <N101> I was going to ask if i could build that
11:57:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> I am just looking at it
11:57:55  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> you also dont have entry signals there :P
11:58:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont need these
11:58:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> they flipflop instantly
11:58:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> always is one green
11:58:52  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> heh, ok :)
11:59:14  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> btw, removed the trains from paper pickup entry
11:59:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> I use entry signals in flipflops only with some longer delay nots
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11:59:35  <N101> So yeah, Is that a possible build for myself? I dont want anything to do with the ML
11:59:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> I see
12:00:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> N101 if that means just connecting the forests to the "hill loop" then of course you can
12:00:35  <N101> Awesome
12:00:54  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> V453000: but people will connect other industries to it too :(
12:00:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> aww
12:01:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> thats true
12:01:09  <PublicServer> <N101> Yes / No?
12:01:12  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> unless you put down loads of signs with WOOD ONLY!
12:01:32  <PublicServer> <N101> Lol It seems to be a wooden frieght.
12:01:41  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> just go ahead and connect them, it will turn out fine i guess
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12:03:37  <PublicServer> <Thijs> refinery drop is done
12:03:45  <PublicServer> <Thijs> simple, but think it should be fine
12:03:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes why not
12:03:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> at least for now
12:03:59  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> awesome :)
12:04:08  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> might turn out to be a bit small though
12:04:31  <PublicServer> <Thijs> there are only two lines to paper drop & ref drop
12:04:47  <PublicServer> <Thijs> so we will need a lot of adjsutments for expansion
12:05:30  <PublicServer> <Razmir> missing rail near "is this slow?" sign, along the bridge
12:05:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> thx Razmir :)
12:06:00  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> not anymore :)
12:06:25  <PublicServer> <Thijs> unsynced bridges...
12:06:30  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> care ;)
12:06:40  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> why did u removed the depots at paper pickup?
12:07:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> trains got dumb
12:07:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> preferred one
12:07:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> or few...
12:07:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is the reason of the hypnotizer
12:08:14  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i will change the entry soon enough anyway :P
12:08:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
12:08:22  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> but wouldn't the 3 refit stations jam on higher traffic?
12:08:31  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yes
12:08:36  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> that is why i will rebuild :P
12:08:47  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> this is just a bit of a hack :P
12:08:52  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> k, just asking ;)
12:09:10  <XeryusTC> but forums must be read first
12:12:19  <PeterT> @seen Chris_Booth
12:12:19  <Webster> PeterT: Chris_Booth was last seen in #openttdcoop 9 hours, 41 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: <Chris_Booth> and please dont stike to many trees up there.....
12:12:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> :¨)
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12:14:09  <XeryusTC> :D
12:14:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol
12:14:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> bitch
12:14:22  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 000114EB: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000114EB.png
12:14:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> looks like it was hidden underground
12:14:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> and you dug it up
12:14:53  <XeryusTC> what was?
12:15:11  <PublicServer> <Thijs> i built it
12:15:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> ah lol :D
12:15:24  <PublicServer> <Thijs> trying to make some eyecandy
12:15:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> kk
12:15:40  <PublicServer> <Thijs> to connect ref to the industries
12:15:47  <PublicServer> <Thijs> but not very succesfull sofar
12:15:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
12:15:54  <PublicServer> <Thijs> kind of lost in the station menu
12:16:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> :( so no underground Power Station :(
12:16:30  <PublicServer> <Thijs> sorry ;)
12:16:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> industrial fixtures, facilities, raw materials and processed products are good
12:17:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> did you notice how long are unloading times of wood trains? :P
12:18:47  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> thats fast
12:18:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> thats instant :)
12:19:17  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> but why.... and ho?
12:19:24  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> how
12:19:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> the US set is just a powerhouse
12:20:13  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> :)
12:20:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> that is also why I say it is a shame we use it very rarely
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12:20:57  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> this is the first game i see with it
12:21:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> and about 4th we use it
12:21:21  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> but the trains are really good loooking
12:21:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> ye
12:21:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> sunset is also probably the best e-rail pax train
12:21:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> instant loading times
12:21:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> huge power
12:21:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> great accel
12:22:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> only a bit lower capacity
12:22:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> but 40 per carriage is fine
12:23:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> see ! :(
12:23:15  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> what are you talking about?
12:23:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> what do you mean?
12:23:46  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> you're having an entire discussion about underground stations etc :P
12:23:56  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> without any context in game it seems :o
12:24:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> ?
12:24:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> underground power station I said
12:24:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> because thijs funded it just after he TFed
12:24:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> and I thought it just "appeared" after the TF
12:24:43  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh ok :o
12:24:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> and now I was talking about how awesome US set is
12:25:04  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> V: ahhh i see what u mean
12:25:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> just one carriage that looks like aquarium
12:25:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> or ... fishtank
12:25:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> hate
12:25:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> otherwise the train is awesoem
12:25:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> and see this
12:25:55  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> lol thats for panorama view :D
12:26:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> big fishtank
12:26:19  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> lol
12:26:21  <PublicServer> <Thijs> hmm, why do trucks not overtake?
12:26:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> and also funny capacity
12:26:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> overtake?
12:26:48  <PublicServer> <Thijs> they all drive begind the slowest
12:26:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> xD
12:27:07  <PublicServer> <Thijs> looks silly
12:27:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> why did you add them?
12:27:13  <PublicServer> <Thijs> to look good
12:27:19  <PublicServer> <Thijs> so it is pointless
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12:27:49  <PublicServer> <Thijs> industrial area needs some traffic
12:28:24  <PublicServer> <Razmir> also add generic cars to towns next time :)
12:28:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> :/
12:28:48  <PublicServer> <Razmir> I know you dont like them :)
12:28:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> we are going to lag a lot later anyways
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12:29:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
12:29:50  <PublicServer> <Razmir> N101: can I hlep somehow with that mountain wood loop?
12:30:11  <PublicServer> <N101> Yeah go for it
12:30:24  <PublicServer> <Razmir> thx
12:30:26  <PublicServer> <N101> Im working stuff out. Havent played in ages.
12:30:28  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> what's the record for most clients connected ?
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12:30:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> ahahah I see XeryusTC style there
12:30:49  <PublicServer> <N101> :P
12:31:11  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> :D
12:31:37  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it has some slow corners though :o
12:31:58  <PublicServer> <N101> Yeah Still working on that with minimal terraforming
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12:32:53  <Pirate87> !password
12:32:53  <PublicServer> Pirate87: punier
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12:33:45  <Pirate87> !gap 5 9
12:33:45  <PublicServer> Pirate87: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 5 and gap 9.
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12:39:35  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> soemehow i've got the feeling that i build this for two incomming lines xD
12:40:25  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but not anymore :D
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12:46:52  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh man, does this entry suck :P
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12:49:13  <PublicServer> <N101> What Length Station/Trains are we going
12:49:14  <PublicServer> <N101> ?
12:49:19  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> TL5
12:51:27  <PublicServer> <Razmir> we have distant join station :)
12:51:41  <PublicServer> <Razmir> just press ctrl while placing station
12:51:42  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> since ages ;)
12:51:56  <PublicServer> <N101> Oh ok ^.^
12:52:09  <PublicServer> <N101> I didnt know that
12:52:57  <PublicServer> <Thijs> hmm, the oil trains take a very strange route
12:53:02  <PublicServer> <Thijs> via paper drop
12:53:30  <PublicServer> <N101> Whoa all the train Depot dissappeared
12:53:51  <PublicServer> <Thijs> SLH  02 is not cennoected to the SL porperly
12:54:09  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> good thing i rebuild this now, and not when it was actually busy :P
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12:55:03  <sietse> !password
12:55:04  <PublicServer> sietse: indoor
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12:55:37  <PublicServer> <N101> Where are the Depots?
12:55:44  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> busy :P
12:55:51  <PublicServer> <N101> Lol
12:56:01  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> will come soon enough ;)
12:58:20  <PublicServer> <Razmir> thx :)
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12:58:54  <PublicServer> <N101> Gotta Credit :P
12:58:56  <PublicServer> <Razmir> but layout was done by N101
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12:59:37  <PublicServer> <Razmir> so, some trains or what?
13:00:00  <PublicServer> <N101> Yeah, The depots went to bed for a bit. Im waiting till they are built again :P
13:00:27  <PublicServer> <Razmir> we can make temporary depots
13:00:33  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> paper you mean?
13:00:36  <PublicServer> <N101> True
13:00:44  <PublicServer> <Razmir> wood
13:01:15  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> working on it
13:02:34  <PublicServer> <N101> Ill take Station 2?
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13:02:40  <PublicServer> <N101> just 2 or 3 trains?
13:02:54  <bluebear> !password
13:02:54  <PublicServer> bluebear: reeked
13:02:59  <PublicServer> <Razmir> I dont know they have long way...
13:03:39  <PublicServer> <Razmir> sorry I must leave, happy playing here
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13:03:46  <N101> Take it easy
13:03:49  <N101> :D
13:04:03  <N101> Thanks for the help too
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13:04:43  <Razmir> I will come tomorrow afternoon, bye
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13:07:04  <PublicServer> master-sonic: reeked
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13:08:02  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> Ryton: i think you're right
13:08:16  <PublicServer> <Ryton> thx :p
13:08:31  <PublicServer> <Ryton> nice build, btw ;-)
13:08:46  <PublicServer> <Ryton> tough, why dont you add the last 4 depots in the same row?
13:09:04  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it fits here aswell
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13:09:09  <PublicServer> <Ryton> true :-)
13:09:10  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and this keeps more to CL
13:09:28  <PublicServer> <Ryton> good point
13:09:38  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> has someone been funding forests?
13:09:57  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> well, i just funded exactly 1 as you asked
13:10:23  <PublicServer> <Thijs> i have funded two oil wells
13:10:49  <PublicServer> <Thijs> to get some action at ref drop
13:11:02  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm, ok xD
13:11:10  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> we're a bit short on money though :o
13:11:38  <PublicServer> <Thijs> well, that's why we need some action ;)
13:12:33  <PublicServer> <Thijs> but with a 'Other' of 5M each year..
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13:15:10  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i wonder under waht refitting falls :o
13:17:10  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> wood trains should use that centerbeam car
13:17:39  <PublicServer> <N101> Hmmm
13:18:48  <PublicServer> <N101> yeah I was using that one
13:18:55  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> N101: you have some incorrect setting
13:18:58  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> let me check which ;)
13:19:15  <PublicServer> <N101> :P
13:19:19  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> advanced settings->vehicles=> new orders are 'non-stop' by default should be on
13:19:42  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and you should use shared orders
13:19:58  <PublicServer> <N101> ok
13:20:29  <PublicServer> <N101> So cloning doesnt automatically share orders?
13:20:55  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> no, ctrl+clone does
13:21:06  <PublicServer> <N101> Damn it.
13:21:16  <PublicServer> <N101> "ctrl" The master of all things
13:21:50  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> V, are u around?
13:21:56  <PublicServer> <Ryton> why isn't there an advanced option: "always enable CTR + order" yet? :p
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13:22:12  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> there hangs a train in the hypnotizer
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13:23:06  <PublicServer> <N101> Wats the point of all that?
13:23:18  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i was removing it :P
13:23:24  <PublicServer> <N101> haha
13:24:35  <PublicServer> <N101> Damn it they're fast
13:26:06  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> V453000: i added a conditional order for paper/goods trains
13:26:13  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> they will not go to the city drop if they're empty
13:26:55  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> see 64 :P
13:27:00  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> cool... conditional orders... i didn't know this is possible
13:27:16  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> you can do loads nowadays :D
13:27:29  <V453000> back
13:27:37  <V453000> sorry had to go quick off
13:28:04  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> what happened at !wtf?
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13:29:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> wat !wtf?
13:29:51  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> your flip flops broke
13:29:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> o_O
13:29:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> how come
13:30:05  <PublicServer> <N101> I broke one :P
13:30:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok
13:30:11  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> trains went somewhere where they shouldn't have been
13:30:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> ah
13:30:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol
13:30:18  <PublicServer> <N101> Then they started to teleport
13:30:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> N101: for experimenting that could lead to breaking please use singleplayer
13:30:54  <PublicServer> <N101> Should we upgrade the Passengernetwork to maglev?
13:30:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> but of course easy fix here ;)
13:31:06  <PublicServer> <N101> hehe
13:31:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> which passenger network
13:31:15  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> which pax network?
13:31:22  <PublicServer> <N101> Lesley
13:31:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> and why would we do that
13:31:35  <PublicServer> <N101> Wait there is more than 1 pax?
13:31:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> besides logic train is for LOGIC
13:31:39  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it's just for growing the town
13:31:53  <PublicServer> <N101> Super Fast teleporting trains. = 100% rating?
13:32:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is just to grow the town as XeryusTC said
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13:32:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> why do you think it is kept as such a mess
13:32:40  <PublicServer> <N101> lol
13:32:47  <PublicServer> <Ryton> because itspretty to look at? :p
13:32:54  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> what's up with the train at ! :( btw?
13:32:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> because it doesnnt matte rthere
13:33:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> XeryusTC: I just showed what I hate
13:33:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> the fishtank in half of the train
13:33:13  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> xD
13:33:25  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> lol
13:33:31  <PublicServer> <N101> On the go meals?
13:33:34  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> added loads of paper trains btw
13:33:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> :) I see
13:33:54  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> station had 300+ waiting all the time
13:34:37  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> why does St. DralowWoods  have a forced depot?
13:34:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> dont know
13:34:54  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> was me
13:34:58  <PublicServer> <N101> I'll add more Good trains at "GOODPICKUP" ?
13:35:05  <PublicServer> <N101> Goods*
13:35:07  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> shouldn't it?
13:35:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
13:35:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> dont
13:35:09  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> mind if i play around in lesley?
13:35:10  <PublicServer> <Ryton> btw; train 65 is doing nothing at all... just running around full :p
13:35:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> N101: read plan ... there are no goods trains
13:36:14  <PublicServer> <Ryton> so is train43 at the moment... part of the plan?
13:36:17  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> train limit
13:36:19  <PublicServer> <N101> Oh i see
13:36:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> wtf Ryton
13:37:32  <PublicServer> <Ryton> nvr mind me & my stupid remarks :p
13:37:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> this one was really very stupid :)
13:37:51  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> btw, dont add trains to Livergrove End Woods, im sending some for service
13:37:58  <PublicServer> <Ryton> you'll have to get used to it :p ;-)
13:38:31  <PublicServer> <N101> Swap one from End Woods to End Heights
13:38:35  <PublicServer> <N101> rather than selling
13:38:42  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> im not selling
13:38:43  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> servicing
13:38:49  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> replacing their wagons etc ;)
13:38:53  <PublicServer> <N101> Ooooh
13:38:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> what went wrong?
13:39:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> OMG
13:39:11  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> centerbeam car is faster than gondala
13:39:11  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> with loading
13:39:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
13:39:21  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and unloading ;)
13:39:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> and has 40 cap.
13:39:31  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> they both carry the same
13:39:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> and besides there is a trainyard for a reason
13:39:50  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yeah N101 just made a small booboo ;)
13:39:55  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> same with their orders btw :P
13:40:07  <PublicServer> <N101> Keeping you on your toes
13:40:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> we dont really need that
13:40:35  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> we need sleep :P
13:40:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
13:40:55  <PublicServer> <N101> I know.Lol Speaking of sleep. I shoyuld be off very soon
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13:41:31  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh btw, dont clone the paper/goods trains when they're not all green ;)
13:41:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah :)
13:41:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> know that
13:41:46  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> otherwise we'll have trains waiting for goods :P
13:43:29  <PublicServer> <N101> Nice orders on the Paper/Goods trains
13:44:00  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> thanks :)
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13:45:35  <PublicServer> <N101> Train limit?
13:45:42  <XeryusTC> !trains
13:45:42  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: !trains <integer>: set value of max_trains
13:45:48  <XeryusTC> !rcon set max_trains
13:45:48  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Current value for 'max_trains' is: '100' (min: 0, max: 5000)
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13:45:58  <XeryusTC> !trains 750
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13:46:04  <V453000> u faster :)
13:47:05  <N101> !Password
13:47:09  <N101> !password
13:47:09  <PublicServer> N101: pillar
13:47:10  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ah, my new depots work properly :)
13:47:13  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> 4 depots per line is enough :D
13:47:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah that is
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13:47:48  <Ammler> he, why do you add waggons to the logic trains?
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13:48:05  <V453000> half running costs?
13:48:15  <V453000> no real reason besides that
13:48:24  <V453000> just a slightly lower acceleration
13:48:25  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> running cost isnt lower
13:48:38  <V453000> it is lower than if I added 2x 2 trains
13:48:50  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> true, but  you only need one engine
13:49:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> I experenced that sometimes it broke
13:49:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> with just 0.5 TL train
13:49:17  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm, odd :o
13:49:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> ... especially when trains were fast
13:49:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think it was above about 2000 kmh
13:49:55  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> trains barely get to that speed
13:49:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> this way they slow a bit
13:49:59  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> they constantly stop and continue :o
13:50:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> but are fast enough in key moments
13:50:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> but ... well ... it is still just overkilly fast ;)
13:50:23  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hehe, true :P
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13:51:52  <N101> Good night
13:51:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> cya
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13:52:22  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> gn
13:53:23  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> Xer, was anything wrong with having forced depots?
13:53:42  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> those trains dont need to go to the depot unless we want to remove them
13:53:53  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> so the only thing they did was slow things down
13:53:56  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> overflow?
13:54:11  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> when you need overflows you are doing something wrong :P
13:54:19  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> either your design is too slow or you have too many trains ;)
13:54:36  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> but forest will grow... so its nice to have a few extra trains ready to go
13:54:36  <XeryusTC> !rcon set magic_bulldozer
13:54:36  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: 'magic_bulldozer' is an unknown setting.
13:54:43  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> V453000: 2 of those splitters aren't working properly?
13:54:48  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> we can add them when needed ;)
13:55:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> I am just checking actually
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13:56:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> coming later
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14:00:37  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, 4 depots/line is a bit too little for a fully packed line
14:00:40  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> see my test at the plan
14:02:43  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> try adding signals?
14:02:48  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yeah ;)
14:03:36  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> gah they all entered same depot?
14:03:44  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> nope :P
14:03:51  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> or well, they shouldn't
14:03:51  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> on the north side
14:04:45  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> how odd
14:04:50  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> trains arrive too soon
14:05:01  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> no train gets out ;)
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14:05:21  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> seems that the extra diagonal tiles are delaying trains for just long enough :o
14:07:15  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> thats weired
14:07:31  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> sending them to depot currently ;)
14:07:40  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> ahhh :)
14:10:34  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> seems to work now :D
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14:12:08  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> a little finetuning?
14:13:31  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm
14:13:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> come and see  !WTF
14:13:34  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> that is weird
14:13:39  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> depots are not functioning properly all the time
14:13:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> the combo should be red
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14:14:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> o_O
14:14:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> HOW
14:14:47  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm, this is odd
14:15:00  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> (something else is ;)
14:15:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> what was the change?
14:15:14  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> i rebuilt a piece of rail
14:15:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> now it should work
14:16:00  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> still wonder what the issue was
14:16:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> me too
14:16:40  <PublicServer> <Zerpa> it was still green after i deleted the piece, and only turned red when i built it again
14:16:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol
14:16:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> nice solution
14:18:19  <PublicServer> <Thijs> third train went wrong
14:18:19  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm, now my depots malfunction again :s
14:18:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> omg
14:18:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> someone edited the flipflops again
14:18:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> twoway combo releasing the memory ...
14:18:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> omfg
14:19:52  <PublicServer> <Thijs> agian third train goes to C
14:20:00  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yes, but the first two go to C
14:20:06  <PublicServer> <Thijs> cause it hasn't started to move out when new train comes
14:20:23  <PublicServer> <Thijs> move depot down the line should work
14:20:29  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but the second train leaves in time for the 3rd train to go to D
14:20:45  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i've lengthened the entry already
14:20:58  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> should have the same effect
14:22:09  <PublicServer> <Thijs> fifth train was early
14:22:14  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yeah
14:22:16  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh crap
14:22:21  <PublicServer> <Thijs> or depot to slow
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14:22:27  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> lets check back in 5 mins :P
14:22:39  <PublicServer> <Thijs> have to go
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14:24:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> I wonder if people are going to accept my sign spam
14:24:21  <XeryusTC> @wiki logic
14:24:32  <Webster> Search results for "logic" - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Special:Search?go=Go&search=logic
14:24:41  <PublicServer> <Sietse> hit X to ignore V :)
14:25:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> I have still the white text shown
14:25:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> and I am really outraged by ppl breaking my things
14:25:37  <XeryusTC> just blame haseo :P
14:25:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> no :) not without a reason
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14:38:05  <Intexon> hi there again ;)
14:38:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
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14:48:44  <Ammler> we should update logic train, so you can't add waggons
14:49:32  <V453000> why
14:49:47  <V453000> you mean to prevent people from using it as a normal train for transporting?
14:49:56  <V453000> I use it for moneymakers in some of my games :D
14:50:18  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> meh, i have odd logic
14:50:21  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> used 2 not gates xD
14:50:38  <Ammler> hehe
14:50:49  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and a timer :P
14:51:43  <Ammler> I don't see any use to add a waggon as 2nd vehicle
14:53:03  <V453000> it works better
14:53:09  <V453000> with a full tile
14:53:15  <V453000> istead of 0.5
14:53:38  <Ammler> yeah, it was meant to use the same engine twice..
14:56:59  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> my automatic train release is working now :D
14:57:10  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> first logic thing i build, ever xD
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15:00:52  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> what's the prio lenght ?
15:01:16  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> whatever you think is good :P
15:01:43  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> like 11 ?
15:01:51  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> possibly
15:02:00  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i usually just build what feels right
15:02:31  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> me too, but too long or too short can be bad for the flow
15:02:34  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> someone's been funding forests some time ago?
15:02:49  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> well, that's where feeling comes in :P
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15:09:26  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> seems like people are still building too many trains for stations :(
15:13:10  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> added some CL signs :P
15:13:21  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> where some is a huge understatement :P
15:13:45  <Razaekel> weren't you off on a tour of asia?
15:13:50  <Razaekel> or was that somebody else?
15:13:52  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> that's mark
15:13:56  <Razaekel> oh right
15:14:05  <PeterT> *headesk*
15:14:25  <PeterT> Mark was actually in IRC yesterday
15:14:27  <PeterT> @seen mark
15:14:27  <Webster> PeterT: mark was last seen in #openttdcoop 2 days, 13 hours, 42 minutes, and 18 seconds ago: <Mark> im off, cya folks
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15:15:01  <Pirate87> !gap 5 11
15:15:01  <PublicServer> Pirate87: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 5 and gap 11.
15:15:10  <Pirate87> @gap 5 11
15:15:10  <Webster> Pirate87: For Trainlength of 5: 61 - 67 needs 10, 68 - 74 needs 11, 75 - 81 needs 12.
15:15:52  <Pirate87> @gap
15:15:52  <Webster> Pirate87: (gap <trainlength> [<split>]) -- Returns minimum and maximum signal gap sizes for 2,3 and 4 linesplits with <trainlength>. If <spilt> is given it will return the the gap sizes for <split> (+/-) 1.
15:16:33  <Pirate87> what's wrong with webster ?
15:17:00  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> funded a powerplant
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15:18:54  <Pirate87> @gap 5 3
15:18:54  <Webster> Pirate87: For Trainlength of 5: < 11 needs 2, 12 - 18 needs 3, 19 - 25 needs 4.
15:19:19  <PeterT> !tunnels 5 3
15:19:19  <PublicServer> PeterT: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 5 and gap 3.
15:20:54  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> there are too many flowers downstairs
15:21:11  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> the combined smell smells like urine :s
15:21:28  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> either that or the dog/cat peed somewhere :P
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15:54:39  <OwenS> http://paste.openttd.org/225348 <-- :-D
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16:04:23  <OwenS> Nobody is interested in programmable signals? :-(
16:04:39  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> you're working on programmable signals?
16:04:50  <PeterT> what's a signal?
16:05:23  <OwenS> PeterT: Think for a moment
16:05:26  <OwenS> XeryusTC: Look at the paste
16:05:41  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> that was a programmable signal?
16:05:49  <PeterT> sarcasm...
16:05:59  <OwenS> XeryusTC: Did "dbg: [misc] Begining execution of programmable signal on tile 55e, track 1" not clue you in?
16:06:27  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> no, you were boasting about your NAND signals yesterday :P
16:06:41  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> so i was like, well, whatever :P
16:08:24  <OwenS> Admittedly theres currently no interface for programming them
16:09:55  <pugi> !password
16:09:55  <PublicServer> pugi: brandy
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16:11:45  <XeryusTC> OwenS: how do you do it then?
16:12:03  <OwenS> XeryusTC: Well, currently it programs them to execute a NAND :P
16:12:10  <XeryusTC> xD
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16:36:56  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> slh 3 done
16:37:33  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, almost done xD
16:39:13  <Chris_Booth> !password
16:39:13  <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: loused
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16:39:38  <PublicServer> <Chris> afternoon all
16:39:52  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hello
16:40:36  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> done now :)
16:41:08  <V453000> hi Chris
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16:50:30  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> brb dinner
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16:55:26  <Thijs> !password
16:55:26  <PublicServer> Thijs: grovel
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16:57:06  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> not here Thijs
16:57:17  <Thijs> !players
16:57:19  <PublicServer> Thijs: Client 367 (Orange) is jond1sti, in company 1 (Geborough Transport)
16:57:19  <PublicServer> Thijs: Client 124 (Orange) is Giddorah, in company 1 (Geborough Transport)
16:57:19  <PublicServer> Thijs: Client 402 (Orange) is Intexon, in company 1 (Geborough Transport)
16:57:19  <PublicServer> Thijs: Client 388 (Orange) is Pirate87, in company 1 (Geborough Transport)
16:57:19  <PublicServer> Thijs: Client 407 (Orange) is Thijs, in company 1 (Geborough Transport)
16:57:20  <PublicServer> Thijs: Client 380 (Orange) is XeryusTC, in company 1 (Geborough Transport)
16:57:20  <PublicServer> Thijs: Client 390 is Sietse, a spectator
16:57:22  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> just open yourself a client list
16:57:46  <PublicServer> <Thijs> i kind of new that...
16:57:51  <PublicServer> <Thijs> but thanks
16:58:26  <PublicServer> <Thijs> haven't been playing much lately
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17:00:34  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> finally finished MSH 02 :)
17:00:57  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> still requires balancing
17:01:05  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> but the rest is done
17:04:32  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> back
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17:14:58  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i'm removing all aircraft :P
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17:16:43  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> someone has been funding oil wells?
17:16:48  <PublicServer> <Thijs> me
17:17:02  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> just terraform a bit ther e:P
17:17:15  <PublicServer> <Thijs> for sidelines i like to keep it low
17:17:27  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> low != dont do it :P
17:17:35  <PublicServer> <Thijs> and there is no need for supersmooth connections
17:17:40  <PublicServer> <Thijs> but cl1 is terrible
17:17:43  <PublicServer> <Thijs> i agree
17:17:48  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> 2*45 is not very good
17:17:57  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i agree that at a primary station you wouldn't need full cl
17:18:09  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but still, you can try to do so ;)
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17:38:14  <Muxy> allons bon
17:39:32  <Pirate87> !password
17:39:32  <PublicServer> Pirate87: shoved
17:39:42  <V453000> hi Muxy
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17:39:55  <V453000> how is your cooperation server? :)
17:40:03  <Muxy> kiss men
17:40:16  <Pirate87> PeterT, why ?! :P
17:40:22  <PeterT> [13:39:24] <PublicServer> Pirate87: shoved
17:40:30  <Pirate87> this i know
17:40:33  <V453000> lol
17:40:47  <Pirate87> thought u will come up with something funny :P
17:44:14  <Pirate87> @wiki balancing
17:44:17  <Webster> Balancing - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Special:Search?go=Go&search=balancing
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17:47:04  <Muxy> !password please
17:47:05  <PublicServer> Muxy: edicts
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17:58:02  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> evenin' all
17:58:07  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hello
17:58:48  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> ooh, trains :)
17:59:18  <juancuca> !help
17:59:19  <PublicServer> juancuca: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands
17:59:32  <juancuca> @quickstart
17:59:35  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart
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18:00:26  <uliko> Is OwenS around or anyone else that knows a bit about coding (new) signals?
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18:00:48  <uliko> !playercount
18:00:48  <PublicServer> uliko: Number of players: 9
18:01:25  <uliko> !password
18:01:26  <PublicServer> uliko: tether
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18:02:23  <OwenS> uliko: I am
18:03:47  <juancuca> !download
18:03:47  <PublicServer> juancuca: !download autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x
18:04:07  <uliko> OwenS: great. Have a question about pre signal blocks, when a trains enters one, does it have a path figured out all the way to the exit signal or just to the closest green combo/exit?
18:04:20  <juancuca> !download win32
18:04:20  <PublicServer> juancuca: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19443/openttd-trunk-r19443-windows-win32.zip
18:05:16  <OwenS> uliko: Presignals don't know about trains, except for if theres one behind them
18:06:22  <OwenS> The logic is basically if(train behind me) red; else if(num_green_signals == 0) red; else green;
18:06:22  <uliko> So it would be impossible, or require extensive work, to create a new type of exit signal that turns red when a train enters the block with that path in mind? Similar to PBS style reserving.
18:06:32  <OwenS> uliko: At present yes
18:06:48  <uliko> Aw, too bad :(
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18:14:28  <KargyBoy> !password
18:14:28  <PublicServer> KargyBoy: tether
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18:16:21  <KargyBoy> !password
18:16:21  <PublicServer> KargyBoy: foaled
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18:20:58  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> FPP still not done :S
18:27:20  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> now we've got oil trains we need more paper trains too :o
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18:34:27  <XeryusTC> !rcon patch raw_industry_construction
18:34:28  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: you are not allowed to use !rcon
18:34:31  <XeryusTC> @op
18:34:33  <XeryusTC> !rcon patch raw_industry_construction
18:34:33  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: you are not allowed to use !rcon
18:34:38  <XeryusTC> wtf
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18:35:12  <Webster> The third coop bot
18:35:16  <XeryusTC> !rcon patch raw_industry_construction
18:35:16  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Current value for 'raw_industry_construction' is: '1' (min: 0, max: 2)
18:35:19  <XeryusTC> !rcon patch raw_industry_construction 2
18:39:43  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, the heightmap is combined with the industry map nowadays :D
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18:42:00  <V453000> !password
18:42:00  <PublicServer> V453000: stupor
18:42:28  <V453000> @dict stupor
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18:42:30  <Webster> V453000: wn: stupor n 1: the feeling of distress and disbelief that you have when something bad happens accidentally; "his mother's deathleft him in a daze"; "he was numb with shock" [syn: {daze}, {shock}] 2: marginal consciousness; "his grogginess was caused as much by exhaustion and by the blows"; "someone stole his wallet while he was in a drunken stupor" [syn: {grogginess}, (1 more message)
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18:42:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
18:42:50  <PeterT> wassup
18:42:51  <PublicServer> <uliko> hello
18:43:03  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> hi
18:43:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> how we doin
18:43:45  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> messing around with lesley ;)
18:44:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
18:44:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> dont grow it much
18:44:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> we need to get running the FPP
18:45:10  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but first you need some grammar lessons :P
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18:45:18  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> lessons in grammar actually :P
18:45:21  <PublicServer> <Thijs> FPP?
18:45:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> nothing new Xeryus :)
18:45:34  <PublicServer> <uliko> food processing plant
18:45:44  <PublicServer> <Thijs> thanks
18:45:47  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> true
18:47:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> what did  I say wrong this time?
18:48:06  <PublicServer> <uliko> running should have been last in that sentence
18:48:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> ah
18:48:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> hm
18:51:26  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> updated DreewayWoods :)
18:52:00  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> mind if i try ffp?
18:52:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> go on
18:52:24  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> well... dont laugh ;)
18:52:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> remember how it looks: unload wheat, refit, load food
18:52:40  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> we wont laught, only complain about stuff :P
18:52:44  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> lol
18:52:47  <PublicServer> <Thijs> hmm, there is a goldmine that delivers to towndrop, but that doesn't accept gold
18:52:58  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> goldmines dont accept gold
18:53:05  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> i noticed that
18:53:06  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> that's only in temperate
18:53:13  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> where does gold go?
18:53:24  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> arctic and desert have gold and diamond mines that produce, and banks only accept
18:53:28  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> town
18:53:34  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> oh...
18:53:40  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> do we have a bank somewhere?
18:53:42  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it doesnt accept it yet though
18:53:45  <PublicServer> <Thijs> so we just need to find a bank in town?
18:53:46  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> let me build one
18:53:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> there is a bank
18:53:52  <PublicServer> <uliko> the bank is there, the station walk just isnt close enough
18:53:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> but not enought station spread
18:54:30  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, i see :o
18:54:39  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> just 2 tiles :o
18:54:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
18:55:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> go on now
18:55:05  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hehe
18:55:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> I deleted the platforms
18:55:25  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i noticed
18:55:46  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> gold is now accepted :)
18:56:00  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> good
18:56:13  <PublicServer> <Thijs> i think town drop has more than enough platforms anyways
18:56:37  <PublicServer> <Thijs> there will be a network overload long before we reach station capacity
18:56:42  <PublicServer> <Thijs> i think
18:56:46  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> most likely
18:56:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
18:56:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> I know
18:57:05  <PublicServer> <Thijs> 10 platforms might be enough
18:57:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> but there is a lot of it
18:57:09  <PublicServer> <Thijs> now 24
18:57:11  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> 10 is too little
18:57:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> gold coal food goods
18:57:15  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> 6/line usually
18:57:20  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but these trains unload very fast
18:57:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> there is 6
18:58:11  <PublicServer> <Thijs> i don't realy like these kind of stations, so spacious
18:58:28  <PublicServer> <Thijs> but that's just a personal preference
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19:00:25  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm, the SL loop is of quite bad design actually
19:00:47  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> with those two lines we could have one lane with full and the other with empty trains
19:01:53  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> V453000: what are you working on?
19:02:52  <V453000> just correcting some posters ... stupid work
19:03:02  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> the !cl stuff?
19:03:12  <PublicServer> <uliko> at the sl loop thing? that's me
19:03:18  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh
19:03:36  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i put those down to teach N101 that he should build proper corners the next time he comes on
19:03:46  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i fixed some of them myself but left most ;)
19:03:53  <PublicServer> <uliko> oh :/
19:03:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> kk
19:04:56  <PublicServer> <Thijs> there is still a lot of sillyness in the N101 loop
19:05:10  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> indeed :P
19:05:15  <PublicServer> <Thijs> like a doble line that merges in three tunnels and then in one bridge
19:05:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> mg :D
19:05:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> I know brain is a dangerous thing but it doesnt hurt that much to use it
19:06:02  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> i see someone had some objections to my MSH
19:06:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> at least occassionally...
19:06:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> nah it should be ok Pirate
19:06:41  <PublicServer> <Thijs> but as it is just a sl, it doesn't really matter anyway
19:06:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> basically the whole network is join before split if it was taken that way
19:06:51  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> that is an area between two hubs :P
19:06:55  <PublicServer> <Thijs> just hope he doesn't try a BBH ;)
19:07:02  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> you posted this sign @!here
19:07:21  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> ??
19:07:37  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> dunno who posted that
19:07:42  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but it is inter hub area
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19:07:52  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> just a small inter hub area :P
19:08:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> ye
19:08:05  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> i could overlap these hubs
19:08:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> I say np
19:08:06  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i can see Sjaak and MSH2 merging in the future
19:08:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> :) kk
19:08:22  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> Pirate87: not needed imo
19:08:26  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> will turn out fine i think
19:08:37  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> trains won't be going from one station to another
19:08:52  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> but if u say it's ok, then i'll leave it
19:09:02  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> plus it looks kinda nice :)
19:09:13  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> the area is a bit spacious
19:09:33  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> see !double bridges not working
19:09:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> yep
19:09:44  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> looking at it right now
19:09:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> fail there
19:09:55  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> why ??
19:09:56  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> V453000: subtle
19:10:01  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> no signals after the bridges
19:10:11  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> ohh
19:10:14  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> basicly you'd need to move all bridges one tile down
19:10:20  <V453000> @dict subtle
19:10:21  <Webster> V453000: wn: subtle adj 1: be difficult to detect or grasp by the mind; "his whole attitude had undergone a subtle change"; "a subtle difference"; "that elusive thing the soul" [syn: {elusive}] 2: faint and difficult to analyze; "subtle aromas" 3: able to make fine distinctions; "a subtle mind" 4: working or spreading in a hidden and usually injurious way; "glaucoma is an insidious (1 more message)
19:10:21  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> i'll fix it
19:10:21  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> where down = south
19:11:10  <V453000> @more
19:11:10  <Webster> V453000: disease"; "a subtle poison" [syn: {insidious}, {pernicious}]
19:12:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> does it mean like" clever" ?
19:12:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> in Czech subtle translated in about 8 completely different words :D
19:12:56  <PublicServer> <Thijs> XeryusTC:  those bridges were also prio's
19:13:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> they can be prios even without making them useless
19:13:21  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> Thijs: that can still work over a bridge
19:13:31  <PublicServer> <uliko> subtle is something along the lines of small and hard to notice
19:13:47  <PublicServer> <Thijs> but you shouldn't forget
19:13:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> kk
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19:18:49  <PublicServer> <Thijs> can i give the fpp entrance line a go?
19:19:00  <PublicServer> <Thijs> or was someone else planning on doing that
19:19:32  <PublicServer> <Thijs> ?
19:19:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> ask the one who is building it
19:19:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think spuuukie
19:19:55  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> hmmm
19:19:58  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> sure
19:20:01  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> how r the bridges now ?
19:20:02  <PublicServer> <Thijs> kk
19:20:04  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> build some more paper trains
19:20:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> pirate: see this
19:20:17  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> bridges are better
19:20:35  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> im not sooo good at antrace.... always breaking the door ;)
19:20:35  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> why ?
19:20:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> this is ok
19:20:41  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> you should add normal two ways after a bridge though when it is a prio
19:20:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> because of the pathfinding
19:21:31  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> hope it works now cause i gotta go
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19:25:57  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> thijis, we have 4 entrylanes
19:26:06  <PublicServer> <Thijs> i know
19:26:17  <PublicServer> <Thijs> i'm still thinking
19:26:29  <PublicServer> <Thijs> but cannot think without building
19:26:51  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> k :)
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19:36:09  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> a balanced entry with unbalanced exit is no good
19:36:57  <PublicServer> <Thijs> so what do you propose?
19:37:23  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> something a bit more balanced
19:37:28  <PublicServer> <Thijs> i see, the exit is actually not evenly connected
19:37:49  <PublicServer> <Thijs> north tracks do not allo ccw exit
19:38:13  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> upps...sorry
19:38:18  <PublicServer> <Thijs> i mean, they force a counter clockwise exit
19:38:29  <PublicServer> <Thijs> and do not allo clockwise
19:38:32  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> heh, indeed
19:38:37  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> the exit is 2+2 lanes
19:38:46  <PublicServer> <Thijs> together with a lousy entrance...
19:38:50  <PublicServer> <Thijs> potential mess
19:39:05  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> leads to a massive jam
19:39:12  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and we have quite some wood trains running already
19:39:17  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> for such an unfinished network
19:39:19  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> k... give me a little more time
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19:51:31  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> XeryusTC, do think this exit gets better?
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19:53:25  <virtual> !download
19:53:25  <PublicServer> virtual: !download autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x
19:53:38  <virtual> !download win32
19:53:38  <PublicServer> virtual: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19443/openttd-trunk-r19443-windows-win32.zip
19:55:37  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yes
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20:01:28  <PublicServer> <Thijs> any opinions on the entrance lanes?
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20:06:42  <virtual> !password
20:06:42  <PublicServer> virtual: captor
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20:14:06  <PublicServer> <Thijs> FPP done?
20:14:43  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> well i think, i got my exit ready
20:14:55  <PublicServer> <Thijs> i made an entrance
20:15:09  <PublicServer> <Thijs> all we need is trains i guess
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20:15:38  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> upps must set signals at the depot
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20:20:42  <PublicServer> <Thijs> ging to redo the depot's
20:20:43  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> i think ffp is ready ;)
20:20:52  <PublicServer> <Thijs> see !optimum lay out
20:20:57  <PublicServer> <Thijs> two depots per line
20:21:08  <PublicServer> <Thijs> you ok with that?
20:22:03  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> paper drop has one depot per line too
20:22:16  <PublicServer> <Thijs> more is better ;)
20:22:45  <PublicServer> <Thijs> and some lines at paper drop have two
20:23:01  <PublicServer> <Thijs> think it will look better
20:24:13  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> ahh good idea ;)
20:24:48  <PublicServer> <Thijs> what is shortcut for depot?
20:24:59  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> dont know
20:26:09  <PublicServer> <virtual> noob question:  if you have breakdowns disabled, why are they being sent into depots?
20:26:29  <PublicServer> <Thijs> to refit the trains
20:27:21  <PublicServer> <Thijs> done
20:27:26  <PublicServer> <Thijs> only signals
20:27:27  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> hehe teamwork ;)
20:27:35  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> i start south
20:27:46  <PublicServer> <Thijs> what is signal plan
20:27:57  <V453000> if you need the merger at the city drop MSH, then just make it ... I have lotsa work :/
20:29:11  <PublicServer> <Thijs> think we are done now
20:29:15  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> yep
20:29:19  <PublicServer> <Thijs> looks much better
20:29:24  <PublicServer> <Thijs> i think
20:29:25  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> sure does
20:29:58  <PublicServer> <Thijs> now trains
20:30:24  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> have to connect farms first
20:35:44  <V453000> dont forget about waypoint and refit depots at farms
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20:36:09  <Chris_Booth> hello
20:36:29  <PublicServer> <Thijs> Hi
20:37:07  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> thx V
20:38:15  <PublicServer> <Thijs> are orders of train 181 correct?
20:38:50  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> missed the waypoint
20:39:02  <PublicServer> <Thijs> o, oops
20:39:09  <PublicServer> <Thijs> and forgot to refit back to grain
20:39:12  <PublicServer> <Thijs> wheat
20:39:38  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> depot and wp is ready
20:40:19  <V453000> hi CB
20:41:38  <Chris_Booth> how are we all?
20:41:56  <PublicServer> <Thijs> i'm fine
20:41:56  <V453000> well ... busy
20:42:56  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> nice
20:43:14  <PublicServer> <Thijs> really love this trainset
20:43:19  <V453000> :)
20:43:21  <V453000> glad to hear
20:43:30  <V453000> because I really like it too
20:43:51  <PublicServer> <Thijs> :)
20:44:27  <PublicServer> <virtual> where is everyone building?
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20:47:32  <PublicServer> <Thijs> we need a SLH at the NE, but there is just no space anymore
20:48:00  <PublicServer> <Thijs> five forests and two farms waitng for trains
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20:49:25  <PublicServer> <Thijs> and a grf bug @ FPP
20:50:13  <PublicServer> <virtual> is a SLH attached to only one direction of ML a legitimate construction?
20:50:26  <PublicServer> <Thijs> don't think so
20:51:46  <PublicServer> <virtual> if you were willing to do that you might be able to pull it off in the NE without disrupting too much
20:53:17  <V453000> !password
20:53:17  <PublicServer> V453000: gushes
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20:53:35  <V453000> session?
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20:53:36  <V453000> :D
20:54:48  <PublicServer> <Spike> logic stuff is nice to have.. but what does it do...
20:54:52  <PublicServer> <Spike> aka sign it? :)
20:55:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> you mean the depot test?
20:55:19  <PublicServer> <Spike> no the paper drop
20:55:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> ah
20:55:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> just flipflops
20:55:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> splits the traffic to exact 1/6 from each line
20:55:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> because trains are dumb
20:55:56  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> subtle again :P
20:56:43  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> well i think rotating like hell maglevs arn't really subtile ;) :D
20:57:29  <hylje> whee rotating trains!!
20:57:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
20:58:08  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> we need more SLHs
20:58:11  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and industries
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20:59:00  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> thijs, where is the depot u started the trains from?
20:59:18  <PublicServer> <Thijs> @ !here
20:59:54  <PublicServer> <Thijs> but no need to add more trains
21:00:00  <PublicServer> <Thijs> let a few skip orders
21:00:07  <PublicServer> <Thijs> to change station look
21:00:21  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> ahhh k
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21:00:52  <PublicServer> <Thijs> but now each station has its own depot
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21:00:58  <PublicServer> <Thijs> so you could add from there
21:01:03  <PublicServer> <Thijs> much easier
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21:03:09  <PublicServer> <Thijs> i'm off
21:03:12  <PublicServer> <Thijs> bye
21:03:36  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> cya
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21:05:20  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> wtf
21:08:18  <V453000> what you wtf @ ?
21:08:32  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> coal trains loading in town drop
21:08:51  <V453000> omg :D
21:12:26  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> is it ok to connect the two farms next to FFP direct?
21:12:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
21:13:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> in some games it may be ok
21:13:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> but this time trains get food that they produce by delivering wheat
21:13:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont remember how exactly is the ratio of x tonnes wheat == y tonnes food but lets keep it unmessy
21:14:13  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> just looking
21:14:54  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> hmm should be 40wheat and 40 goods
21:15:10  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> food i mean
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21:16:47  <PublicServer> <virtual> is anyone building anything at the moment?
21:17:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> Spuukie: I know the ratio of wagons
21:17:01  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> not really
21:17:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> but not the production ratio
21:17:14  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> ahh
21:17:27  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> didnt know this isnt 1:1
21:17:52  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> but it seamed that train wasn't full
21:19:45  <V453000> :)
21:23:10  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> production on wheat is about 1:#
21:23:13  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> 1:3
21:23:20  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> or 3:1 actually
21:23:47  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> well this should leave enough room
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21:24:11  <V453000> XeryusTC: that much? o_O
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21:25:30  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> well i think shouldn't hurt then
21:25:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> what shouldnt hurt
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21:26:44  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> two farms... but i understand u r strict with your rules
21:26:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> why are trains just passing through wheat drop empty?
21:27:02  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> forgot the full load
21:27:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont see any reason at all to connect those 2 farms
21:27:24  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> k
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21:40:42  <cat666> hi :)
21:41:11  <cat666> !password
21:41:11  <PublicServer> cat666: setter
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21:46:34  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> hmmm
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22:26:09  <Pirate87> !password
22:26:09  <PublicServer> Pirate87: braves
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22:31:48  <Pirate87> @gap 5
22:31:48  <Webster> Pirate87: For Trainlength of 5: < 11 needs 2, 12 - 18 needs 3, 19 - 25 needs 4.
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22:33:03  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> re
22:37:59  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> V453000: i think you forgot that food trains can leave in every direction from the town drop
22:38:17  <V453000> no
22:38:21  <V453000> just a merger is missing
22:38:29  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh
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22:38:37  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> well, i'm still building it anyway :P
22:38:45  <V453000> kk thx
22:39:12  <V453000> not no time :/
22:39:19  <V453000> *got
22:40:05  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> see, trains are leaving on it already
22:40:20  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> :P
22:42:49  <V453000> !screen
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22:46:27  <V453000> !password
22:46:27  <PublicServer> V453000: grimed
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22:46:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
22:46:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> :) thx
22:47:03  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yellow
22:47:33  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> damnit, i cant even press shift at the right time when typing my own nick
22:47:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol :)
22:47:53  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> anyhow, my merger is le ugly :P
22:48:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> doesnt matter
22:48:22  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> true
22:48:33  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> although 4->3->4 isn't the best thing one could do
22:48:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> as long as it works
22:49:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> its fine
22:50:04  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but it seems we can transport livestock :P
22:50:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> what is the ratio?
22:50:31  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> 3:1
22:50:35  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> 3 wheat 1 food
22:50:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> wow
22:50:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok
22:50:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> then we can ... but it would require a separate LV drop
22:51:01  <XeryusTC> actually, let me check the OTTD wiki :P
22:51:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> kk
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22:53:09  <Thijs> !password
22:53:09  <PublicServer> Thijs: grimed
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22:54:26  <PublicServer> <Thijs> Hi
22:54:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> hey
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22:54:45  <PublicServer> <Thijs> anything going on?
22:54:54  <haseo> !password
22:54:54  <PublicServer> haseo: grimed
22:55:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> I just came ... but looks like all MSHs with stations are done
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22:55:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
22:55:28  <PublicServer> <Thijs> the towndrop merge is really huge :)
22:55:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> I know ...
22:55:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> doesnt matter now
22:55:53  <PublicServer> <Thijs> 30 tiles wide
22:55:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> there is the space for it
22:56:52  <PublicServer> <Thijs> yes, you wouldn't want to waste space if you have it
22:57:33  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> wewt, extra farm :D
22:57:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
22:57:39  <Pirate87> !password
22:57:39  <PublicServer> Pirate87: grimed
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23:01:12  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm
23:01:24  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it might be a good idea to build a refit facility on the ML?
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23:01:40  <PublicServer> <Thijs> instead of at every station?
23:01:47  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yes
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23:02:07  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> see the !refit facility? signs
23:02:28  <PublicServer> <Thijs> or an optional refit depot after city drop
23:02:39  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> no room for that
23:02:47  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> as you basicly need 4 depots per line
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23:02:55  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> see !depot test
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23:03:28  <PublicServer> <Thijs> that is true if you have four lines
23:03:52  <PublicServer> <Thijs> actually there is plenty of space for that
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23:04:12  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> well, if we water terraform there would be
23:04:27  <PublicServer> <Thijs> even without i think it is possible
23:04:38  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> we need to keep to TL though
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23:05:22  <PublicServer> <Thijs> it should be optional, right?
23:05:31  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yeah, will get to that
23:05:36  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> heh, that's what i was thinking :P
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23:06:32  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm, only 17 tiles :)
23:06:56  <OwenS> http://www.tt-forums.net/download/file.php?id=126308 :-)
23:07:17  <PublicServer> <Thijs> can't it be more compact?
23:07:19  <XeryusTC> what an ugly font
23:07:26  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> not really
23:07:27  <OwenS> XeryusTC: It looks much better when I remember to turn 32bpp on
23:08:34  <PublicServer> <Thijs> how about we build depots like @ FPP
23:08:45  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> too slow
23:08:58  <PublicServer> <Thijs> two line per line
23:09:09  <PublicServer> <Thijs> then we only need eight lines
23:09:13  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yes, but with higher loads you need 4
23:09:19  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> better be safe then sorry on this one
23:09:32  <PublicServer> <Thijs> two lines with 4 depots each
23:09:47  <PublicServer> <haseo> better to make depot entrances with bigger CL
23:09:50  <PublicServer> <Thijs> i mean 2 depots
23:10:01  <PublicServer> <haseo> takes up tons of space though
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23:10:43  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm
23:10:53  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> would need to move this out a bit
23:10:59  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i think
23:11:05  <PublicServer> <Thijs> making a test
23:11:14  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> who's rebuilding my hub ?
23:11:20  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> either that, or move the 12 east most platforms a bit
23:11:23  <V453000> Owen: programmable signals out already? or just taster?
23:11:35  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> Pirate87: which hub?
23:11:42  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> MSH02
23:11:54  <OwenS> V453000: Taster. You can look at the instructions now
23:12:05  <OwenS> Notice there are no buttons in that window :p
23:12:05  <V453000> I see :)
23:12:44  <OwenS> They're still CPU-inefficient NANDs :P
23:12:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
23:13:11  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> well, whoever that was, it's ok to fix things, that need fixing
23:13:47  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> but he was reverting what i rebuild before
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23:17:27  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> V453000: do you agree with doing something like !refit here?
23:18:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> the refit facilities?
23:18:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> ha
23:18:08  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yes
23:18:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> if possible, I would make it at !refit here
23:18:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> there I agree
23:18:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> on the other spots I would rather like to see some SLHs
23:18:54  <PublicServer> <Thijs> i would say that my compact design can take a lot of load
23:19:07  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> Thijs: where is it?
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23:19:15  <PublicServer> <Thijs> @depot test
23:19:39  <PublicServer> <Thijs> it cannot take 100% overloaded line, but as our ML is 4, we cannot reach 100%
23:19:48  <PublicServer> <Thijs> on the station exits anyway
23:20:02  <PublicServer> <Thijs> and it can handle 90% or something
23:20:05  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> that design might work better indeed
23:20:19  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> although it isn't optional as it is atm :P
23:20:26  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> so it would need straight through lines
23:20:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> make there gaps
23:20:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> for signals
23:20:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> between the tunnels
23:21:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> but that basically is what you already have at refit here
23:21:05  <PublicServer> <Thijs> now it is optional
23:21:12  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yeah :)
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23:21:26  <PeterT> @dict sovereignty
23:21:27  <Webster> PeterT: wn: sovereignty n 1: government free from external control 2: royal authority; the dominion of a monarch [syn: {reign}]
23:22:21  <PublicServer> <Thijs> runs very smooth now ;)
23:22:34  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> good :D
23:25:21  <PublicServer> <Thijs> now some trains refit, some don't
23:25:47  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> Thijs: see !refit here
23:26:46  <PublicServer> <Thijs> can i comment?
23:26:58  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> sure :)
23:27:08  <PublicServer> <Thijs> build directly before bridges
23:27:15  <PublicServer> <Thijs> already 4 double lines
23:27:25  <PublicServer> <Thijs> you ned 11 tiles i think
23:27:32  <PublicServer> <Thijs> which is there
23:27:39  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> well, we have the exit of those terminus platforms there
23:28:06  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> see my splitter, it allows for a train waiting space
23:28:29  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> so trains can go leave the split at full speed and thus not blocking other trains when entering the depot
23:29:05  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> why did i fund that PP over there :(
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23:32:01  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> might need to move the bridges a bit
23:32:12  <PublicServer> <Thijs> can be done
23:32:13  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> or actually, we have to :P
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23:33:10  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> the line im building now is for the 5th and the 6th bridge
23:33:18  <PublicServer> <Thijs> ah
23:33:21  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> another line will come in between
23:34:15  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but i'll keep the exit lines split
23:34:20  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> no need to move anymore i think btw
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23:36:43  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> this *should* work
23:36:53  <PublicServer> <Thijs> mind the signalling
23:36:58  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i will remove the bridges for the last line :P
23:37:07  <PublicServer> <Thijs> the presig should be at the 'entrance'
23:37:18  <PublicServer> <Thijs> see the depot example
23:37:25  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i signalled something wrong somewhere?
23:37:44  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i combined your system with mine
23:37:47  <PublicServer> <Thijs> presig should be at split
23:37:56  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> that is pbs signals you're moving there
23:37:56  <PublicServer> <Thijs> otherwise trains are stupid
23:38:08  <PublicServer> <Thijs> yes, i'm confused
23:38:13  <PublicServer> <Thijs> the pbs i meant
23:38:24  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but i'm using a different splitting system :P
23:38:28  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> one based on presignals
23:38:32  <PublicServer> <Thijs> o, ok
23:38:33  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> just depot entry is based on pbs :P
23:38:45  <PublicServer> <Thijs> then it should work i guess
23:41:10  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> the entire refit centre should work now
23:41:33  <PublicServer> <Thijs> we should try, i guess
23:41:38  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yeah
23:41:41  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i changed all the paper trains :P
23:41:58  <PublicServer> <Thijs> now all the farm trains
23:42:04  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> wait and see if it works
23:42:28  <PublicServer> <Thijs> missed some track
23:42:36  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, ok :o
23:42:51  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it seems to work indeed :D
23:43:06  <PublicServer> <Thijs> concentrating load
23:43:15  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> heh, ok :)
23:43:44  <PublicServer> <Thijs> wait till we have 8 trains
23:43:54  <PublicServer> <Sietse> what are you doing?
23:44:01  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, a paper train without shared orders
23:44:27  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and there are 9 more of those :S
23:44:50  <PublicServer> <Thijs> ok, now we see
23:45:40  <PublicServer> <Thijs> not 100% smooth
23:45:50  <PublicServer> <Thijs> but i think good enough
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23:46:01  <PublicServer> <Thijs> and robust, it doesn't jam or anything
23:46:45  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh great
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23:47:12  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> there's a bit of a complication :P
23:47:18  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> hi there again ;)
23:47:19  <PublicServer> <Thijs> what?
23:47:33  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> the paper trains skip the town drop if they haven't loaded any goods
23:47:50  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> not only the paper trains
23:47:59  <PublicServer> <Thijs> hmm
23:48:11  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> food trains also
23:48:26  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> which would mean that we need refit centres after the good/food pickups too
23:49:10  <PublicServer> <Thijs> or don't skip orders
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23:49:39  <PublicServer> <Thijs> or have optional refit after good pickup, for empty trains
23:49:39  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yes, but that puts unneeded strain on the town drop and the ML leading to it
23:49:42  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> but don't skip orders means unessessary ways...
23:49:51  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> which is much in this setup
23:50:16  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> we could easily fit a refit centre after the goods pickup
23:50:36  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> sure thats could be done
23:50:43  <PublicServer> <Thijs> and most trains will not need it
23:51:03  <PublicServer> <Thijs> in fact, we need only one depot per line for shure
23:51:04  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> true, but fortunately it's optional :D
23:51:20  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i'd still go for two at least
23:51:29  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> prefered is full size ofcourse
23:51:46  <PublicServer> <Thijs> i meant one per station platform line
23:51:55  <PublicServer> <Thijs> more if built after merge
23:51:56  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yeah, i know
23:52:17  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> just build a full size one on the two lines leading out i'd say
23:52:35  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> hmm but wouldn't this end in a huge station exit?
23:52:52  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> see town drop, it is quite compact actually
23:53:10  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> only 14 tiles basicly
23:53:29  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> k, i'm a noob at this... so i sit watch and learn
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23:54:33  <PublicServer> <Thijs> bye the way, wheat trains don't have orders to skip towndrop if empty yet
23:54:41  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> good :P
23:54:47  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> sure they have... now ;)
23:54:51  <PublicServer> <Thijs> nor to refit
23:54:58  <PublicServer> <Thijs> o, good
23:55:08  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> hmm but we could delete this order ;)
23:55:59  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> but's a long travel ...because town drop only exits east
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23:56:15  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> not anymore :P
23:56:23  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> ohh i missed something
23:56:24  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> fixed that a while ago
23:56:35  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> ahh kelw
23:56:38  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> kewl
23:57:03  <PublicServer> <Spuuukie> saves a lot of time ,)
23:58:13  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> make entrie bypass lines?
23:58:21  <PublicServer> <Thijs> is best
23:58:25  <PublicServer> <Thijs> i think
23:58:34  <PublicServer> <Thijs> and force other trains through dept
23:58:44  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> no
23:58:49  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i have it balanced 3 way now :P
23:59:10  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> as it has a long tunnel :P
23:59:45  <PublicServer> <Thijs> but if a train is in that tunnel, then the next will take depot
23:59:53  <PublicServer> <Thijs> and not slow everything down

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