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00:00:23 *** thgergo has quit IRC 00:01:58 <PublicServer> <avdg> XeryusTC: should my switch be removed now? 00:02:08 <PublicServer> <baeda> XeryusTC: no more wrong trains at plastics/batt drop. thanks so much for that :) 00:02:41 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00014D49: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00014D49.png 00:02:41 <PublicServer> <pugi> yay :) 00:03:51 <PublicServer> <rubenv> ehm 00:03:56 <PublicServer> <pugi> hub 04a is stuck 00:04:03 <PublicServer> <rubenv> major jam at tadale city now 00:04:05 <PublicServer> <pugi> uhm.. 00:04:17 <PublicServer> <pugi> yeah 00:04:17 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> fixed 4a 00:04:25 <PublicServer> <pugi> wanted to do that right now... :/ 00:04:26 <PublicServer> <avdg> lol toy pickup 00:05:11 <PublicServer> <baeda> dont add more trains yet please 00:05:16 <PublicServer> <avdg> i know 00:05:17 <PublicServer> *** leg3nd has left the game (connection lost) 00:05:25 <PublicServer> <avdg> traffic is stuck somewhere else 00:05:33 <PublicServer> <baeda> we need to wait how it ends up when trains come back :) 00:05:41 <PublicServer> <avdg> check !jam 00:05:50 <PublicServer> <avdg> k !jamJam now 00:05:59 <PublicServer> <rubenv> looking at it too 00:06:08 <leg3nd> !password 00:06:08 <PublicServer> leg3nd: hugged 00:06:11 *** Shinji has quit IRC 00:06:14 <PublicServer> <rubenv> outer L isnt connected to east properly here 00:06:32 <PublicServer> *** leg3nd joined the game 00:07:59 <PublicServer> <avdg> k, they are cming back 00:08:08 <PublicServer> <avdg> heuge wave :p 00:09:01 <PublicServer> <baeda> there are too much toys at stock... 00:09:04 <PublicServer> <rubenv> check "!!???" 00:09:07 <PublicServer> <avdg> leave it 00:09:23 <PublicServer> <avdg> will be balanced in n time 00:09:48 <PublicServer> <baeda> yea sure. just wanted to say that we'll have to wait some more until it comes back to normality 00:10:02 <PublicServer> <avdg> still 1k left :) 00:10:27 <PublicServer> <baeda> it's down to 35% what do you expect ;) 00:10:31 <PublicServer> <pugi> all the trains are bypassing something via Pelow Mines again... 00:10:33 <Shinjii> Xeryus, check ur msn 00:10:33 <PublicServer> <pugi> why? :/ 00:10:54 <Shinjii> !password 00:10:54 <PublicServer> Shinjii: hugged 00:11:03 <PublicServer> *** Shinji joined the game 00:11:08 <PublicServer> <rubenv> pugi: they want togo back the other way :) 00:11:12 <PublicServer> <avdg> means something is broken 00:11:18 <PublicServer> <rubenv> because hub 03 was fixed 00:12:50 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> is there anyone up to do something for me? 00:13:02 <PublicServer> <baeda> if i can do... 00:13:02 <PublicServer> <rubenv> hub 05 00:13:03 <PublicServer> <avdg> there are many bottlenecks growing 00:13:05 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> if its not too hard :) 00:13:08 <PublicServer> <rubenv> ah you just fixed that one 00:13:38 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> there is a line called To ML at the toy thingy 00:13:41 <PublicServer> <baeda> or you just need a fresh cup of coffee XeryusTC? ;) 00:13:44 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> guess where that needs to go :P 00:13:50 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> that too :P 00:13:50 <PublicServer> <pugi> well, i need to go to bed now 00:13:53 <PublicServer> <pugi> good night :) 00:13:54 <PublicServer> <rubenv> hmm, hub 10 to hub 6 might need LL_RR but not sure 00:14:37 <PublicServer> <rubenv> or hub 6 to town drop 00:14:39 <PublicServer> <baeda> yes, got it XeryusTC... what you need there? 00:14:46 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh great 00:14:55 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> not all toy trains share the same orders 00:14:57 <PublicServer> *** pugi has left the game (leaving) 00:14:58 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> can someone fix that? 00:15:07 *** pugi has quit IRC 00:15:14 <PublicServer> <baeda> yea on it 00:15:15 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> baeda: it needs to go to the one ML line that is currently jammed xD 00:15:27 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh lol 00:15:44 <PublicServer> <baeda> mark by sign please 00:15:50 <PublicServer> <baeda> just fixing the trains 00:15:57 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> wait a sec 00:16:17 <PublicServer> *** leg3nd has joined spectators 00:16:27 <PublicServer> <sonic> which jammed ml? ;) 00:17:22 <PublicServer> <KyleS> i wish i understood the logic gates... D: 00:17:33 <PublicServer> <baeda> i'm just asking myself why anyone is copying trains w/o sharing orders --- *pew* 00:17:34 <PublicServer> <rubenv> heh same here :P 00:17:43 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001637A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001637A.png 00:17:44 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> still working at toy drop exit @ KyleS ? 00:18:03 <PublicServer> <KyleS> nah...heading out soon 00:18:50 <PublicServer> <rubenv> added exits at DJ nekkids area (cuncombe woods 00:21:54 <PublicServer> <sonic> KyleS: check !logic 00:22:24 <PublicServer> <KyleS> looking 00:24:00 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> jam at hub 10 00:26:01 <PublicServer> <avdg> towndrop needs to become bigger 00:26:24 <PublicServer> <avdg> and all lines should be at least llrr 00:26:49 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> is someone making toy trains? 00:26:54 <PublicServer> <avdg> not me 00:27:16 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i'm asking who is, not who isn't 00:27:19 <PublicServer> <avdg> still to many people online, thats a killer 00:28:00 *** elmz has quit IRC 00:28:50 <PublicServer> *** gr00vaLisTic has left the game (leaving) 00:29:54 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> so 00:30:01 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> all orders of toy trains are shared again 00:30:21 <PublicServer> <baeda> uhm yea... so it was you doing it too ;) 00:30:21 <PublicServer> <rubenv> /appreciates the ahrd work 00:30:30 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> if you create toy trains make sure you clone + share them 00:31:07 <PublicServer> <KyleS> later, guys 00:31:13 <PublicServer> *** KyleS has left the game (connection lost) 00:31:17 *** KyleS1 has left #openttdcoop 00:31:28 <PublicServer> <sonic> i'm off to bed now too, good night! 00:31:47 <PublicServer> <baeda> okay XeryusTC... tell me what's going on at your To ML sign there ;) 00:31:48 <PublicServer> <baeda> night 00:32:25 <PublicServer> <avdg> I saw enough crazy things today 00:32:33 <PublicServer> <rubenv> whats up with sweets drop? 00:32:34 <PublicServer> <avdg> need some sleep 00:32:46 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00023E28: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00023E28.png 00:32:46 <PublicServer> <avdg> :/ 4 houres to sleep 00:32:54 <PublicServer> <avdg> bye 00:32:55 <PublicServer> *** avdg has left the game (leaving) 00:33:28 <PublicServer> *** sonic has left the game (leaving) 00:33:51 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has joined company #1 00:33:55 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm 00:33:56 <PublicServer> <baeda> uhm... you don't think it was me false-cloning the trains hopefully... i'm new to coop but i'm not playing ttd the first time :/ 00:34:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> what is !!needs balancing 00:34:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh it lacks one connection 00:34:54 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> something which needs a balancer it seems 00:35:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> hub 01 00:35:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> connection to the north 00:35:07 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> seems like that owrks too 00:35:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> no, one of the se lines 00:35:22 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, it doest 00:35:27 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> one goes north, the other goes south 00:35:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> just the southern needs north connection 00:37:00 <PublicServer> <rubenv> hmm, why are trains not joining the inner track at SLH01? 00:37:22 <PublicServer> <rubenv> "!! no joining here?" 00:38:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> the left line lacks some connection 00:38:08 <avdg> bye 00:38:11 <PublicServer> <rubenv> I'm thinking that waiting space is too short 00:38:14 *** avdg has quit IRC 00:38:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> no 00:38:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> cya avdg 00:38:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> some connection is missing 00:38:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> find it via the destination where trains are going 00:38:37 <PublicServer> <rubenv> the train that is waiting for the prio line is on a track that is too short I think 00:38:59 <PublicServer> *** Shinji has left the game (leaving) 00:39:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> N 00:39:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> O 00:39:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> . 00:39:07 <PublicServer> <rubenv> hmm 00:39:12 <Shinjii> !password 00:39:12 <PublicServer> Shinjii: pliers 00:39:53 *** Qanael has quit IRC 00:40:19 <PublicServer> *** Shinji joined the game 00:45:10 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> we seem to be having too many toy trains 00:45:33 <PublicServer> <baeda> wait a sec 00:45:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> hmm 00:45:51 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> deleting 8 of them 00:45:54 <PublicServer> <baeda> they were jammed just 20 sec ago... i just pulled the plug 00:46:16 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm, we will see if they are needed later on 00:46:32 <PublicServer> <baeda> yea well feel free to delete i dont care ;) 00:46:44 <PublicServer> <baeda> at least now i know you're not ignoring me. 00:46:48 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> just dont create new ones right away :P 00:47:18 <PublicServer> <baeda> you really think i created all of them (including wrong orders) do you :< 00:47:19 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> also, hub 5 looks like a proper XeryusTC structure now :P 00:47:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 00:47:48 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002404D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002404D.png 00:48:32 <PublicServer> <baeda> ... 00:51:05 <PublicServer> *** Shinji has left the game (leaving) 00:52:03 <PublicServer> <baeda> aw come on... yes i'm new and yes i don't know much yet. but i'm not bloody dumb so you could start ignoring me and telling me i would create hundreds of trains with wrong orders. what the fuck 00:52:48 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> are we ignoring you then? 00:52:57 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> we dont pay attention to each and every move by each player 00:54:55 <PublicServer> <baeda> huh? i was not saying you had to pay attention to everything but if i asked you 3 times about that train thing (where you dropped extra signs at the station how to clone trains) you didnt answer ;) 00:55:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> chat was kinda busy today 00:56:37 <PublicServer> <baeda> yea sure whatever.... i just dont want being accused for something i actually didn't do. 00:57:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> o 00:57:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> m 00:57:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> f 00:57:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> g 00:57:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> another connection missing 00:57:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> why cant people LL_RR properly 00:57:51 <PeterT> V453000 is going to flip a shit! 00:57:54 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> where? 00:57:57 <PeterT> I love this channel. 00:58:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> hub 04a 00:58:28 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh 00:58:36 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> LLRR'er didnt signal properly :P 00:58:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> not signal 00:59:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> there isnt any connection 00:59:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> to your island 00:59:34 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> xD 01:00:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> hm lets say ok 01:01:54 <PublicServer> <rubenv> theres plastic trains under the batteries category... 01:02:11 <PublicServer> <rubenv> seriously XD 01:02:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> chaos itself can be played well ... but not on public :( people get the feeling like they dont need to build well 01:02:46 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i've created some more sweets pickup trains :D 01:02:50 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002744E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002744E.png 01:02:50 <PublicServer> <rubenv> ?? and there are bubble trains with 3 cargo wagons 01:03:09 <PublicServer> <rubenv> oh wait, I'm at fail here 01:03:20 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 01:03:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> no you arent 01:03:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> Avonberg has them 01:03:38 <PublicServer> <rubenv> guess who made the station 01:03:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> XeryusTC: sideways pls 01:04:02 <PublicServer> <baeda> well i think i'm going to check that whole train thing there 01:04:02 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 01:05:24 <PublicServer> <rubenv> :D thanks 01:05:32 <PublicServer> <rubenv> was viewing it myself though 01:05:48 * V453000 slaps rubenv 01:06:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> why cant you just clone other trains 01:06:13 <PublicServer> * rubenv dodges the slaps 01:06:21 *** OwenS has quit IRC 01:06:36 <PublicServer> <rubenv> because I'm getting orders then 01:06:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> that doesnt matter 01:07:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> you ge the group, you delete order and you have the other order for drop 01:07:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> which is more likely to be the fastest way btw 01:07:26 * XeryusTC fucks V453000 01:07:29 <XeryusTC> sideways 01:07:35 * V453000 thanks 01:07:58 <PeterT> :D 01:08:01 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> jam :D 01:08:10 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> at town drop :o 01:08:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> 2->1 01:08:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> thats my job 01:08:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> just kept it :) now its not enough 01:08:59 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> now it should be 01:09:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> kk thx 01:09:22 *** Shinjii has quit IRC 01:09:29 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> town drop is too small anyway 01:10:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 01:10:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> sox 01:10:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> and there is acl 01:10:17 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> acl? 01:10:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> a 01:10:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> cl 01:10:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 01:10:33 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh 01:10:34 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> a cl 01:10:45 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> acl = something to do with lighting 01:11:04 <PublicServer> <rubenv> I thought that was AC/DC 01:11:09 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i'm making some trains again btw 01:11:20 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> lighting as in stage lighting ;) 01:11:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 01:11:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> waever 01:12:02 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ok, made some toy trains again :P 01:12:14 <PublicServer> <baeda> *coughs* 01:12:35 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i'm creating quite some trains btw :P 01:12:39 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> all at hub 4 xD 01:13:39 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> also, hi baeda 01:13:52 <PublicServer> <baeda> uhm huh? 01:14:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> he is here all the time 01:14:04 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> you were coughing :P 01:14:19 <PublicServer> <baeda> hehe because you created more toy trains ;) 01:14:25 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yeah, i know 01:14:31 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> that's why i said it ;) 01:14:37 <PublicServer> <baeda> hehe 01:15:10 <PublicServer> <baeda> well i got a question for the flip-flop after pastic drop 01:15:27 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yes? 01:15:49 <PublicServer> <baeda> it got jammed some time ago. both ways signalled red 01:16:06 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> that's odd :o 01:16:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> umm ... both bays were occupied? 01:16:13 <PublicServer> <baeda> how could it jam actually? i dont get it 01:16:20 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> could be because there still was a train in the block that was suppose to be green 01:16:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> also, NOTs can be slow 01:16:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> resulting in both red at the moment when train decides 01:16:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> if decides wrong, it blocks 01:17:05 <PublicServer> <baeda> so it's quite rare? 01:17:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> it depends on how fast is the NOT response 01:17:26 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> wow, double bridges on a station entrance 01:17:27 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> how odd :P 01:17:34 <PublicServer> <baeda> i carefully told the blocking train to ignore signal... was that right? (i didnt crash it :) 01:17:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> you ean beer pickup? 01:17:52 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000356AB: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000356AB.png 01:18:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> mean 01:18:00 <PublicServer> <rubenv> ehm 01:18:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes it was right 01:18:25 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> jam at sweets drop 01:18:28 <PublicServer> <rubenv> damn train using my roro station again 01:19:02 <PublicServer> <rubenv> why is it that they always do that for roro stations? 01:19:11 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> which station? 01:19:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> missing connections 01:19:19 <PublicServer> <rubenv> faberg market lakeside 01:19:39 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> no clue 01:19:50 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> also, trains on left is evil 01:20:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> I bet it is some missing connection on the ML 01:20:04 <PublicServer> <rubenv> thats not my decision 01:20:15 <PublicServer> <rubenv> but I cba to make a tunnel or bridge 01:20:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh 01:21:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> well look from the trains come 01:21:08 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 01:21:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> look where from 01:21:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> Feeby Cross South 01:21:55 <PublicServer> * V453000 votes to ban chaos with NO exceptions 01:22:15 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, improper doubling :s 01:22:30 <PeterT> who is chaos? 01:22:32 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> by V453000 ! 01:22:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> wa? 01:22:53 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> at hub 1 01:23:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> where 01:23:15 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> see !this one 01:23:35 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> trains from north turning left cant access the SL 01:23:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> whats wrong 01:23:59 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> nor cant they from one of the lines from sweets drop 01:24:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> christ 01:24:11 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> on a bike 01:24:20 <PublicServer> <rubenv> without a seat 01:24:52 <PublicServer> <rubenv> *cough* SLH *cough* 01:25:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> you are kinda ill, eh? 01:25:11 <PublicServer> <rubenv> better remake dadingbury west then 01:25:25 <PublicServer> <rubenv> no, coughing can be done sarcasticly as well 01:25:33 <PublicServer> <rubenv> I was scraping my throat. 01:25:36 <PublicServer> <baeda> anyone look at !here... the join sometimes jams way back 01:28:50 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> anyone objects if i turn of gradual loading in sp and reload the savegame? 01:28:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> no 01:29:06 <XeryusTC> !save blackup181 01:29:06 <PublicServer> Saving game... 01:29:08 <XeryusTC> !pause 01:29:08 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has paused the server. 01:29:08 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 01:29:17 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (connection lost) 01:30:05 <PublicServer> <rubenv> omnomnom pancakes 01:30:26 <PublicServer> *** baeda has left the game (leaving) 01:32:28 <mrruben5> !password 01:32:28 <PublicServer> mrruben5: uproot 01:32:29 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 01:32:35 <PublicServer> *** rubenv joined the game 01:32:41 <XeryusTC> !auto 01:32:41 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has enabled autopause mode. 01:32:54 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001B812: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001B812.png 01:32:55 <PublicServer> *** baeda joined the game 01:33:49 <XeryusTC> hmm 01:33:53 <XeryusTC> who is the slow connecting person? 01:33:56 <XeryusTC> !auto 01:33:56 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has enabled autopause mode. 01:33:59 <XeryusTC> !unpause 01:33:59 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has unpaused the server. (Use !auto to set it back.) 01:34:03 <XeryusTC> !auto 01:34:03 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has enabled autopause mode. 01:34:09 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (connection lost) 01:34:17 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 01:34:26 <XeryusTC> !rcon unpause 01:34:29 <XeryusTC> !auto 01:34:29 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has enabled autopause mode. 01:34:47 <V453000> !password 01:34:47 <PublicServer> V453000: fizzle 01:35:08 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 01:35:13 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> this might break my SRO though :P 01:35:31 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but alas, it doest :D 01:35:49 <Radicalimero> !password 01:35:49 <PublicServer> Radicalimero: fizzle 01:35:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 01:36:01 <PublicServer> *** Radicalimero joined the game 01:36:22 <PublicServer> *** Radicalimero has joined company #1 01:36:31 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> fizzy drink jam is getting worse 01:36:36 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> sweets* 01:36:51 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, there's join before split :S 01:37:04 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but that seems allright 01:37:46 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> cola in sweets drop :( 01:41:10 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> anyhow, trains unload faster now 01:41:17 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and load too 01:41:46 <PublicServer> <rubenv> jam at hub 09 01:41:56 <PublicServer> <rubenv> well, very slow traffic 01:42:07 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> that's still sweet drop 01:42:12 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> look at where the head of the jam is 01:42:31 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> basicly sweets drop needs to be upgraded to two lines 01:42:34 <PublicServer> <rubenv> hmm yeah 01:42:40 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it jams when a train from the south joins :o 01:42:47 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but that's something for tomorrow 01:42:50 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> now it's time for bed 01:43:46 <PublicServer> *** leg3nd has left the game (connection lost) 01:46:37 <PublicServer> <baeda> 08 has deadlock 01:47:24 <PublicServer> <rubenv> up till toy drop :S 01:47:56 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000236BB: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000236BB.png 01:47:56 <PublicServer> <baeda> got it i suppose 01:48:04 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> deadlock? 01:48:09 <PublicServer> <rubenv> problem seems to be hub 10? 01:48:28 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hub10 is still too slow 01:48:28 <PublicServer> <rubenv> 6 to 10 needs LL_RR I think 01:48:31 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> too little capacity 01:48:32 <PublicServer> <baeda> cola train went to !here 01:48:47 <PublicServer> <baeda> and jammed the station 01:49:34 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hub 10 itself has cleared now 01:49:47 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> the backlog on the sl has not though 01:49:57 <PublicServer> <baeda> clearing up now 01:50:17 <PublicServer> <baeda> hm i'm lagging quite a bit 01:50:28 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> we should upgrade all the ML to 2x2 01:50:33 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but that's still something for tomorrow 01:51:31 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (connection lost) 01:52:09 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 01:52:39 <PublicServer> *** rubenv has left the game (leaving) 01:53:21 <baeda> !players 01:53:23 <PublicServer> baeda: Client 213 (Orange) is Radicalimero, in company 1 (planetm4ker's World) 01:53:23 <PublicServer> baeda: Client 220 (Orange) is baeda, in company 1 (planetm4ker's World) 01:53:49 <PublicServer> <baeda> so i'm out. good night 01:54:24 <PublicServer> *** baeda has left the game (connection lost) 01:54:24 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 01:59:55 *** mrruben5 has quit IRC 02:06:15 <PublicServer> *** Radicalimero has left the game (leaving) 02:06:21 *** Radicalimero has quit IRC 02:11:42 *** mrruben5 has joined #openttdcoop 02:13:36 *** Razaekel has quit IRC 02:21:15 *** Razaekel has joined #openttdcoop 02:35:37 *** baeda has quit IRC 02:42:12 *** mrruben5 has quit IRC 03:01:05 *** Fuco has quit IRC 03:05:57 *** gr00vy has quit IRC 03:06:13 *** gr00vy has joined #openttdcoop 03:30:51 *** Qanael has joined #openttdcoop 03:36:58 *** mixrin has quit IRC 04:02:51 *** KyleS has joined #openttdcoop 04:03:02 <KyleS> hello :o 04:03:05 <KyleS> !password 04:03:06 <PublicServer> KyleS: fudges 04:03:39 <PublicServer> *** KyleS joined the game 04:03:42 <KyleS> :( 04:03:46 <KyleS> its paused 04:28:30 <PublicServer> *** KyleS has left the game (leaving) 04:37:26 *** roboboy has quit IRC 05:08:20 *** benko has joined #openttdcoop 05:19:47 *** elmz has joined #openttdcoop 05:30:23 *** roboboy has joined #openttdcoop 05:41:13 *** Qanael has quit IRC 05:50:14 *** elmz_ has joined #openttdcoop 05:56:30 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 05:56:45 <pugi> !password 05:56:45 <PublicServer> pugi: hoboed 05:57:02 <PublicServer> *** pugi joined the game 05:57:19 *** elmz has quit IRC 05:58:03 <KyleS> zomg pug 05:58:05 <KyleS> pugi* 05:58:06 <KyleS> :D 05:58:10 <pugi> hi :P 05:58:37 <KyleS> when you are an openttdcoop member does the game unpause for you? :o 05:58:46 <pugi> dunno 05:59:06 <KyleS> ah :S 05:59:07 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 05:59:09 <PublicServer> *** KyleS joined the game 05:59:11 <pugi> but it unpauses when at least 2 ppl are on the server 05:59:13 <KyleS> well now it is unpaused =) 06:02:58 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00026E29: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00026E29.png 06:14:25 <PublicServer> <KyleS> major jam 06:14:33 <PublicServer> <pugi> great 06:14:48 <PublicServer> <KyleS> at !JAM SOURCE 06:14:59 <PublicServer> <KyleS> at least... i think it is the source 06:16:21 <PublicServer> <pugi> yeah 06:16:24 <PublicServer> <pugi> join before split 06:18:01 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001637A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001637A.png 06:20:00 <PublicServer> <KyleS> the whole toy factory needs way more throughput 06:26:23 <PublicServer> <pugi> well, there are jams everywhere :P 06:30:39 *** Devedse has joined #openttdcoop 06:31:15 <Devedse> !password 06:31:15 <PublicServer> Devedse: vainer 06:31:26 <PublicServer> *** Devedse joined the game 06:31:47 <PublicServer> <KyleS> hi 06:31:50 <PublicServer> <Devedse> hey 06:32:24 <PublicServer> <Devedse> this game is still going on i see :) 06:32:28 <PublicServer> <KyleS> so many jams D: 06:33:03 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001167B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001167B.png 06:33:55 <PublicServer> <pugi> source for part of it is sweets drop entry being to slow 06:34:06 <PublicServer> <KyleS> and Hub 10 06:34:38 <Devedse> yea thats what i just saw to :) 06:35:15 <PublicServer> <Devedse> why is there monorail at the !needs more lanes in sign? 06:35:16 *** ^Spike^ has joined #openttdcoop 06:35:16 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ^Spike^ 06:35:38 <PublicServer> <KyleS> it's to do with the presignals 06:35:39 <PublicServer> <pugi> it is just a balancer 06:35:40 <PublicServer> <KyleS> i don't understand it 06:35:46 <PublicServer> <Devedse> oh 06:35:49 <PublicServer> <KyleS> ^ what pugi ssaid ^^ 06:35:54 <PublicServer> <Devedse> ok :D 06:36:03 <PublicServer> <pugi> just to connect them, no trains are actually using them 06:36:42 <PublicServer> <Devedse> and what do you guys do when the factory's close down? 06:36:58 <PublicServer> <Devedse> or that doesn't happen? 06:37:07 <PublicServer> <pugi> lol 06:37:12 <PublicServer> <pugi> that doesn't happen 06:37:18 <PublicServer> <Devedse> good :P 06:37:39 <PublicServer> <pugi> factories and stuff don't shut down when they are in use 06:37:56 <PublicServer> <Devedse> oh i've had it sometimes 06:38:01 <PublicServer> <Devedse> but maybe i didnt have enough trains 06:39:01 <PublicServer> *** pugi has left the game (connection lost) 06:39:58 *** pugi_ has joined #openttdcoop 06:39:59 <pugi_> <.< 06:40:04 <PublicServer> <KyleS> :( 06:40:10 <pugi_> !password 06:40:10 <PublicServer> pugi_: fizzes 06:40:24 <PublicServer> *** pugi joined the game 06:40:38 <PublicServer> * Devedse looks to the amazing logic 06:40:43 <PublicServer> <pugi> had internet disconnect <.< 06:40:45 <PublicServer> <Devedse> @ !logic 06:40:48 <PublicServer> <KyleS> im working at !JAM SOURCE ... but it's only a quick fix and doesn't address the source of the jam 06:41:06 <PublicServer> <pugi> Devedse: that is nothing :P 06:41:16 <PublicServer> <Devedse> WHAI IT ISNT :D 06:41:19 <PublicServer> <pugi> you should have looked at psg #180 06:41:58 <Devedse> can you download old savegames? 06:42:04 <pugi_> yes 06:42:12 <Devedse> then thats what im gonna do RITTE NOW 06:42:33 <pugi_> !archive psg 180 06:42:34 <PublicServer> pugi_: http://www.openttdcoop.ORG/wiki/PublicServer:Archive | http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/ProZone:Archive | http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/MemberZone:Archive 06:42:37 <pugi_> hmm 06:42:49 <pugi_> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/PublicServer:Archive_-_Games_171_-_180 06:43:00 <pugi_> it is a self regulating network 06:43:04 <pugi_> trains with no orders 06:43:11 <pugi_> forced to take certain routes 06:43:32 <PublicServer> <Devedse> brb :) 06:43:45 <PublicServer> *** Devedse has left the game (leaving) 06:44:00 *** pugi has quit IRC 06:44:00 *** pugi_ is now known as pugi 06:44:08 <Devedse> it says its missing grf's ;Oo 06:44:36 <pugi> then download them 06:45:17 <pugi> via check online content 06:46:00 <Devedse> wow that is indeed amazing 06:48:05 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00016979: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00016979.png 06:49:47 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 06:49:47 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 06:50:25 *** elmz has joined #openttdcoop 06:50:35 <PublicServer> <pugi> too many trains everywhere ^^ 06:50:52 <PublicServer> <KyleS> agreed my compy fails at handling it :( 06:55:13 <Devedse> !password 06:55:13 <PublicServer> Devedse: harass 06:55:24 <PublicServer> *** Devedse joined the game 06:55:31 <PublicServer> *** Devedse has left the game (connection lost) 06:56:17 <Devedse> wtf, why do i see trains racing with the speed of light in that 180 savgeame :O 06:56:38 <PublicServer> <pugi> lol 06:56:49 <PublicServer> <KyleS> one of the GRFs 06:56:51 <Devedse> 3519 km/h actually :) 06:56:51 <PublicServer> <KyleS> includes trains 06:56:53 <Devedse> oh ic 06:56:58 <ODM> morning 06:57:00 <PublicServer> <KyleS> that has max movespeed and max horsepower 06:57:05 <PublicServer> <KyleS> ODM 06:57:08 <PublicServer> <KyleS> jams 06:57:09 <PublicServer> <KyleS> EVERYWHERE 06:57:11 <PublicServer> <KyleS> XD 06:57:17 *** elmz_ has quit IRC 06:57:20 *** einKarl has joined #openttdcoop 06:57:21 <ODM> ugh, people have been bad 06:57:37 <ODM> !trains 06:57:37 <PublicServer> ODM: !trains <integer>: set value of max_trains 06:57:49 <ODM> !rcon set max_trains 06:57:49 <PublicServer> ODM: Current value for 'max_trains' is: '750' (min: 0, max: 5000) 06:57:52 <ODM> !rcon set max_trains 500 06:58:10 <PublicServer> <KyleS> im quick-fixing something ... but it isn't the underlying problem...so =/ 06:58:30 <ODM> how many trains do we have? 06:59:30 * Devedse is amazed 06:59:46 <ODM> !password 06:59:47 <PublicServer> ODM: harass 06:59:47 <KyleS> 688 trains 06:59:53 <PublicServer> *** 0DM joined the game 07:00:14 <PublicServer> <0DM> hm it doesnt seem THAT bad 07:00:31 <PublicServer> <pugi> plastics & bat drop exit is jammed 07:00:38 <PublicServer> <pugi> so is toy pickup exit 07:00:52 <PublicServer> <pugi> sweets drop entry needs more lanes 07:01:06 <PublicServer> <0DM> well atleast theres something to do^^ 07:01:09 <PublicServer> <KyleS> toy drop needs double lanes 07:01:12 <PublicServer> <KyleS> at least 07:01:42 <PublicServer> <pugi> the sweet drop entry causes jams right to the cola + bubble drop exit/station 07:01:59 <PublicServer> <0DM> aah there 07:02:04 <PublicServer> <KyleS> however... note that the toy drop station isn't the only problem 07:02:11 <PublicServer> <KyleS> Hub 10 is jamming the line 07:02:47 <PublicServer> <0DM> well if you think you can improve something, have a go^^ 07:02:50 <PublicServer> <KyleS> at least it does occassionally =) 07:02:52 <PublicServer> <0DM> ill have a look when im awake 07:02:59 <PublicServer> <pugi> lol 07:03:07 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00016335: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00016335.png 07:03:27 *** elmz has quit IRC 07:03:50 <pugi> how about scrap the game and make new? :P 07:04:01 <PublicServer> <0DM> no?:P 07:04:09 <planetmaker> how about not doing so? 07:04:17 <planetmaker> moin, btw :-) 07:04:21 <PublicServer> <0DM> how about spending some time fixing it^^ 07:04:23 <PublicServer> <0DM> hey pm 07:04:31 <PublicServer> <0DM> to bad people went mad with the number of trains yesterday 07:05:01 <planetmaker> !trains 07:05:01 <PublicServer> planetmaker: !trains <integer>: set value of max_trains 07:05:01 <PublicServer> <0DM> but for the rest... the building isnt as bad as maybe expected:p 07:05:06 <planetmaker> !rcon max_trains 07:05:06 <PublicServer> planetmaker: ERROR: command not found 07:05:11 <planetmaker> !rcon set max_trains 07:05:11 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Current value for 'max_trains' is: '500' (min: 0, max: 5000) 07:05:20 <planetmaker> !url 07:05:20 <PublicServer> planetmaker: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/ 07:05:33 <PublicServer> *** Devedse has left the game (connection lost) 07:05:45 <Devedse> !password 07:05:46 <PublicServer> Devedse: outdid 07:06:01 <PublicServer> *** Devedse joined the game 07:06:15 <PublicServer> <Devedse> man that savegame was really !@#%$ amazing O_O 07:06:19 <PublicServer> <Devedse> the 180 07:06:33 <PublicServer> <pugi> yeah, i told you :P 07:07:13 <PublicServer> <0DM> im killing 2 primaries near the sweets drop 07:07:34 <PublicServer> <pugi> it is just lukeus' station, do it :D 07:07:39 <PublicServer> <0DM> no not those 07:08:46 <PublicServer> <0DM> anyway fizzy seems to be the biggest root of problems atm, ills tart there 07:08:52 <PublicServer> <0DM> uh sweets* 07:09:01 <PublicServer> <pugi> yeah 07:10:42 <PublicServer> <Devedse> cya guys im off 07:10:45 <PublicServer> *** Devedse has left the game (leaving) 07:12:29 <PublicServer> <0DM> now a plan^^ 07:14:27 <PublicServer> <0DM> kyle? 07:14:34 <PublicServer> <KyleS> yes 07:14:54 <PublicServer> <0DM> can you try and reconnect the 2 stations north of sweets drop to the north instead of the south, so to tillynot end east? 07:15:43 <PublicServer> <KyleS> sure 07:15:59 <PublicServer> <0DM> im gonna find some ways to preserve space^^ 07:16:06 <PublicServer> <0DM> which is an issue here 07:16:39 <PublicServer> <0DM> we're also forcing 3 lines onto one station, nice:p 07:18:09 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00028A34: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00028A34.png 07:18:17 <PublicServer> <0DM> oh 4 lines i was wrong 07:23:15 <PublicServer> <pugi> yay 07:23:20 <PublicServer> <pugi> first train uses new station 07:23:25 <PublicServer> <pugi> lol slow bridges :D 07:23:27 <PublicServer> <0DM> woops 07:23:42 <PublicServer> <0DM> i use ctrl, if you just joined, its first bridge:P 07:23:59 <PublicServer> <0DM> i wonder why not more trains yse it 07:24:05 <PublicServer> <pugi> ah, ctrl+bridge = last used? 07:24:16 <PublicServer> <0DM> yes 07:24:28 <PublicServer> <pugi> there are so many ctrl-tricks i think... 07:24:55 <PublicServer> <0DM> yup 07:25:12 <PublicServer> <0DM> time to clean up this huge mess 07:25:23 <PublicServer> <pugi> is in the wiki anything about these shortcuts? 07:25:32 <PublicServer> <0DM> openttd wiki maybe 07:26:43 <PublicServer> <pugi> it is working a bit better now :) 07:26:51 <PublicServer> <0DM> yeah, but this isnt a solution 07:26:56 <PublicServer> <0DM> just a hack so i can work:P 07:27:13 <PublicServer> <pugi> the whole game is that way :P 07:27:26 <PublicServer> <0DM> nah most things are really thought about 07:27:37 <PublicServer> <0DM> its just that tl3 maglev and big mountains make it look bad 07:29:31 <PublicServer> <0DM> ugh need some flat land to try something:p 07:29:46 <PublicServer> <pugi> at hub 01 is some 07:29:57 <PublicServer> <0DM> good 1 07:31:44 <PublicServer> <0DM> ugh too big a design^^ 07:31:51 <PublicServer> <pugi> ^ 07:31:54 <PublicServer> <pugi> ^^ 07:32:47 <PublicServer> <pugi> but... there are no trains waiting at sweets drop any more 07:32:51 <PublicServer> <pugi> suprisingly 07:33:00 <PublicServer> <0DM> theyll come back:p 07:33:11 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00022461: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00022461.png 07:33:15 <PublicServer> *** KyleS has left the game (connection lost) 07:33:17 <PublicServer> <pugi> but not when we won't add any more trains :P 07:33:25 <PublicServer> <0DM> which is impossible atm 07:33:25 <KyleS> zzz 07:33:31 <KyleS> started lagging rly hard 07:33:37 <KyleS> !password 07:33:38 <PublicServer> KyleS: beckon 07:33:54 <PublicServer> <0DM> already? 07:33:54 <PublicServer> *** KyleS joined the game 07:34:09 <KyleS> too many trains 07:34:12 <KyleS> or PBS signals 07:34:14 <KyleS> i keep dropping 07:34:20 <PublicServer> <0DM> your internet is bad mate:p 07:34:23 <PublicServer> <pugi> you should try to open psg 180 :P 07:34:28 <KyleS> i tried it 07:34:31 <KyleS> lol 07:34:42 <KyleS> my internet is probably ok (even though it is comcast....eww) 07:34:49 <KyleS> i suspect it's my computer :/ 07:35:00 <pugi> must be 07:36:16 <KyleS> yay \o/ somehow it isn't dropping me 07:36:21 <PublicServer> <0DM> lol 07:36:31 <KyleS> maybe because i shrinked it down to something like 400px by 400px ;-) 07:36:35 <PublicServer> <0DM> im still trying to think of a station design that isnt massive:P 07:37:00 <pugi> heh, i am playing in 1920x1080 :P 07:37:07 <KyleS> QQ 07:37:21 <pugi> and had psg 180 game open in second window a few minutes ago :D 07:37:26 <pugi> still everything smooth 07:37:34 <pugi> well, it still is slow when i zoom out 07:39:18 <PublicServer> <pugi> remaking pickup? 07:39:23 <PublicServer> <0DM> yeah 07:39:26 <PublicServer> <0DM> i need space for the drop 07:39:38 <PublicServer> <pugi> looks plausible :P 07:39:47 <PublicServer> *** KyleS has left the game (connection lost) 07:39:59 <KyleS> !password 07:39:59 <PublicServer> KyleS: beckon 07:40:14 <PublicServer> <0DM> honestly mate:p 07:40:14 <PublicServer> *** KyleS joined the game 07:40:30 <KyleS> eh, like i said, pretty sure it's my computer 07:40:31 <KyleS> :( 07:41:51 <PublicServer> *** KyleS has left the game (connection lost) 07:41:56 <PublicServer> <0DM> not the best ever, but this will do i think 07:42:09 <KyleS> -_- 07:42:17 <KyleS> i can't stay logged in long enough to fix the mess i created 07:42:17 <PublicServer> <0DM> whatcha think pugi? 07:42:26 <KyleS> to the north of the sweets drop 07:42:27 <PublicServer> <0DM> lol 07:42:33 <PublicServer> <pugi> looks all right 07:42:43 <KyleS> !version 07:42:43 <PublicServer> KyleS: Autopilot AP+ 3.0 Beta (r740:742M) 07:42:49 <PublicServer> <0DM> pug, can you finish kyles work? 07:42:50 <KyleS> !dl win32 07:42:50 <PublicServer> KyleS: http://nl.binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19594/openttd-trunk-r19594-windows-win32.zip 07:42:54 <PublicServer> <pugi> where? 07:43:08 <KyleS> north of the sweets drop 07:43:12 <PublicServer> <0DM> north of sweets drop 07:43:19 <PublicServer> <0DM> changing the lanes of the 2 stations there 07:43:22 <PublicServer> <pugi> ah 07:43:23 <PublicServer> <pugi> i think so 07:43:29 <PublicServer> <0DM> tthey have to go north instead of south 07:43:36 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 07:43:39 <KyleS> thank you =) 07:43:40 <PublicServer> <0DM> dont forget to also change the connection where they meet the ml 07:43:57 <KyleS> i need a better computer to play with this many trains i guess --- 07:43:59 <KyleS> -_-* 07:44:21 <PublicServer> <0DM> its only 600:P 07:44:22 <PublicServer> <pugi> where are the trains? 07:44:29 <PublicServer> <pugi> ah, found them 07:44:32 <PublicServer> <0DM> depot 07:48:13 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001F617: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001F617.png 07:48:57 *** roboboy has quit IRC 07:49:27 <PublicServer> <0DM> auch, 4k bags of sweets waiting 07:51:49 <PublicServer> <0DM> woo space 07:52:10 <PublicServer> <0DM> thanks for the help you two 07:52:27 <PublicServer> <pugi> ;) 07:54:06 <PublicServer> <0DM> now lets see what the next part is 07:55:41 *** heffer has joined #openttdcoop 07:56:42 <PublicServer> <pugi> trains rolling again 07:56:51 <PublicServer> <0DM> problems at toy factory and fizzy 07:56:58 <PublicServer> <0DM> but its ok, sweets overhaul first^^ 08:03:15 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001D80E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001D80E.png 08:04:08 <KyleS> looks nice pugi =) 08:06:04 <PublicServer> <0DM> building while keeping trains running is always a challenge:P 08:06:14 <PublicServer> <pugi> it is fun :D 08:06:34 <PublicServer> <0DM> yes, but a challengeL:P 08:09:30 <KyleS> !ip 08:09:31 <PublicServer> KyleS: ps.openttdcoop.org 08:11:02 <KyleS> !password 08:11:03 <PublicServer> KyleS: helium 08:11:05 <KyleS> going to try once more 08:11:16 <KyleS> !dl win32 08:11:17 <PublicServer> KyleS: http://nl.binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19594/openttd-trunk-r19594-windows-win32.zip 08:11:20 <PublicServer> <0DM> hehe 08:11:57 <PublicServer> *** KyleS joined the game 08:12:08 <PublicServer> <KyleS> so far so good :O 08:12:15 <PublicServer> <0DM> dont jynx it 08:14:03 <PublicServer> <0DM> oh its massively stuck somewhere 08:14:12 <PublicServer> <KyleS> yeah looking into it 08:14:36 <PublicServer> <0DM> think its deadlocked 08:16:09 <PublicServer> <0DM> probably becausse of my work 08:18:01 <PublicServer> <0DM> nice:p 08:18:11 <PublicServer> <pugi> yay 08:18:17 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00014450: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00014450.png 08:19:41 *** Tray has joined #openttdcoop 08:21:20 <Tray> !download win32 08:21:20 <PublicServer> Tray: http://nl.binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19594/openttd-trunk-r19594-windows-win32.zip 08:23:39 *** phatmatt has joined #openttdcoop 08:24:06 <phatmatt> !password 08:24:06 <PublicServer> phatmatt: fiends 08:24:15 <PublicServer> *** phatmatt joined the game 08:24:20 <Ammler> !dl 08:24:20 <PublicServer> Ammler: !dl autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x 08:24:22 <Ammler> !dl lin 08:24:22 <PublicServer> Ammler: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19594/openttd-trunk-r19594-linux-generic-i686.tar.bz2 08:24:40 <Ammler> cz mirror should be back... 08:24:44 <PublicServer> <0DM> hey mate 08:24:56 <Ammler> morning :-) 08:25:04 <PublicServer> <0DM> mornin 08:25:14 <Ammler> how are the toys running? 08:25:28 <PublicServer> <0DM> a bit dodgy 08:25:32 <Ammler> oh, nice last screen :-P 08:25:54 <ODM> haha 08:25:54 <pugi> heh :D 08:25:59 <pugi> i fixed it :P 08:26:13 <Ammler> pugi: you meant, you crashed it? 08:26:18 <pugi> both 08:26:20 <pugi> i crashed it 08:26:24 <pugi> remade trains 08:26:30 <pugi> created temp other ways 08:26:38 <pugi> and fixed it again :D 08:26:55 <PublicServer> <0DM> and crashed it again:P 08:26:58 <PublicServer> <pugi> no 08:27:10 <PublicServer> <0DM> meh wouldve been funny:p 08:27:14 <PublicServer> <pugi> :D 08:28:15 *** TS has joined #openttdcoop 08:28:49 <PublicServer> <0DM> possible jam comin up 08:29:04 *** Tray has quit IRC 08:29:45 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 08:30:31 <PublicServer> <0DM> darn needs more waiting space:p 08:31:53 *** Headshot119 has joined #openttdcoop 08:31:58 <Headshot119> !password 08:31:58 <PublicServer> Headshot119: fiends 08:32:17 <PublicServer> *** headshot119 joined the game 08:33:19 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00026E2E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00026E2E.png 08:33:54 <PublicServer> *** KyleS has left the game (leaving) 08:34:16 *** Phazorx has left #openttdcoop 08:35:35 *** Phazorx has joined #openttdcoop 08:35:35 *** Webster sets mode: +o Phazorx 08:36:34 <TS> !password 08:36:34 <PublicServer> TS: retype 08:36:36 <PublicServer> <0DM> slowly building this up:p 08:36:43 <PublicServer> *** Tray joined the game 08:36:55 <PublicServer> <pugi> at least you are getting somewhere ;) 08:39:17 <PublicServer> <0DM> whats everyone else doing anyway? 08:42:05 *** KyleS has left #openttdcoop 08:43:08 <PublicServer> <phatmatt> I lurk and do maintenance stuff.. fix signal gaps, dead track, and CL's (hi btw :P) 08:43:14 <PublicServer> <0DM> hi:p 08:43:50 <PublicServer> *** Tray has joined company #1 08:48:22 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00013CBD: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00013CBD.png 08:51:53 *** Phazorx has quit IRC 08:54:33 <PublicServer> *** headshot119 has left the game (leaving) 08:56:49 *** Shinji has joined #openttdcoop 08:56:58 <Shinji> !password 08:56:58 <PublicServer> Shinji: bubbly 08:57:15 <PublicServer> *** Shinji has left the game (connection lost) 08:57:27 <PublicServer> *** Shinji has left the game (connection lost) 08:57:38 <PublicServer> *** Shinji joined the game 08:59:53 <PublicServer> <0DM> i think im getting there at sweets^^ 09:03:24 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00028828: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00028828.png 09:10:11 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 09:10:24 *** Phazorx has joined #openttdcoop 09:10:24 *** Webster sets mode: +o Phazorx 09:11:16 *** theholyduck has joined #openttdcoop 09:17:09 <leg3nd> !password 09:17:09 <PublicServer> leg3nd: sexing 09:17:39 <PublicServer> *** leg3nd joined the game 09:18:26 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001C794: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001C794.png 09:23:44 <PublicServer> <Tray> I have a question about the train limit: what's up to do now? 09:23:56 <PublicServer> <0DM> fixing things that are jamming;) 09:24:12 <PublicServer> <0DM> tonight alot of trains got added that caused jams, so i lowered it until things work out 09:24:26 <ODM> !trains 700 09:24:26 <PublicServer> *** ODM has set max_trains to 700 09:24:28 <theholyduck> odm, working on LL_RR in areas? 09:24:36 <PublicServer> <0DM> no i redoing sweets 09:24:36 <theholyduck> or? 09:24:39 <PublicServer> <Tray> I give a try. 09:24:41 <theholyduck> ODM, it needed doing 09:24:44 <theholyduck> weee 09:24:54 * theholyduck is back in 20 mins or so 09:24:56 *** theholyduck has quit IRC 09:24:57 <PublicServer> <0DM> lol 09:28:10 <PublicServer> <0DM> its starting to look decent now 09:28:36 <PublicServer> <pugi> pff 09:28:42 <PublicServer> <0DM> yes that took me 2 hours:p 09:28:44 <PublicServer> <pugi> sweets hasn't changed in last 20 minutes :P 09:28:50 <PublicServer> <0DM> it has:p 09:28:58 <PublicServer> <pugi> i don't see it :D 09:28:59 <PublicServer> <0DM> im doing the exits 09:29:04 <PublicServer> <0DM> east side 09:29:05 <PublicServer> <pugi> ah 09:29:07 <PublicServer> <pugi> okay, yeah 09:29:17 <PublicServer> <0DM> better do it right:) 09:31:34 <PublicServer> <0DM> whatcha think? 09:31:57 *** theholyduck has joined #openttdcoop 09:32:04 <PublicServer> <pugi> west station is not connected :P 09:32:11 <PublicServer> <0DM> exitwise:p 09:32:22 <PublicServer> <pugi> same as before :D 09:32:32 <PublicServer> <0DM> hush you:p 09:32:37 <PublicServer> <pugi> <3 ;) 09:32:42 <PublicServer> <0DM> you just have no eye for aesthetics:p 09:33:28 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00024C51: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00024C51.png 09:33:53 <PublicServer> <0DM> did it suddenly go laggy for anyone else? 09:34:06 <Ammler> !server_status 09:34:06 <PublicServer> Ammler: 11:34:06 up 334 days, 21:24, 0 users, load average: 0.72, 0.96, 1.13 09:34:07 <PublicServer> Ammler: Cpu(s): 16.0%us, 5.7%sy, 2.7%ni, 72.5%id, 3.1%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.1%si, 0.0%st 09:34:07 <PublicServer> Ammler: 16733 openttd 25 10 38144 15m 4368 R 14 0.8 197:44.61 ./openttd -c opentt 09:34:47 <PublicServer> <Tray> Hrm, I'm plaing on my netbook, so I guess lags are caused by weak CPU/RAM/whatever 09:34:47 <PublicServer> <0DM> cpu and ram are low, not leeching 09:34:50 <PublicServer> <0DM> weird 09:34:53 *** Phazorx has quit IRC 09:35:08 <PublicServer> <0DM> im only using 5%:P 09:35:20 *** heffer has quit IRC 09:35:43 <PublicServer> <0DM> ugh, apparently it was youtube, sorry 09:35:44 <PublicServer> <pugi> i fixed your missing bridge :P 09:35:59 <PublicServer> <0DM> oh it wasnt missing, i just didnt put it there 09:36:11 <PublicServer> <pugi> pfff :D 09:36:32 <PublicServer> <pugi> well, there was space for it 09:36:38 <PublicServer> <0DM> yup:) 09:37:00 <PublicServer> <pugi> and noone is using that line :D 09:37:11 <PublicServer> <0DM> thats why it was only single:p 09:37:50 <PublicServer> <0DM> now to fix the entry 09:40:33 <PublicServer> *** Tray has left the game (connection lost) 09:40:37 <PublicServer> <0DM> i have an idea^^ 09:40:49 <PublicServer> *** Tray has left the game (connection lost) 09:41:09 <TS> !password 09:41:09 <PublicServer> TS: warren 09:41:21 <PublicServer> *** Tray joined the game 09:42:32 *** smoovi has joined #openttdcoop 09:42:39 *** Phazorx has joined #openttdcoop 09:42:39 *** Webster sets mode: +o Phazorx 09:45:34 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 09:45:37 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Fuco 09:45:41 *** Fuco has quit IRC 09:45:44 *** Headshot119 has quit IRC 09:47:04 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 09:48:30 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00024646: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00024646.png 09:50:22 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> some one tjeck my Noob split ? 09:50:26 <PublicServer> <0DM> at? 09:50:30 <PublicServer> <0DM> oh hey mate, hadnt seen you come in 09:50:48 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> Hey im a little ninja :> 09:51:05 <PublicServer> <0DM> well i wonder what its for really 09:51:23 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> It where for easying up on the to lane 09:51:47 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> all trains where running there. and stating to jam little. 09:51:48 <PublicServer> <0DM> well the 2nd lane will automatically fill up later on 09:51:48 <PublicServer> <pugi> it may be used if the left lane would be standind still 09:51:51 <PublicServer> <0DM> so we dont really need it 09:52:33 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> Where not many trains at the outer lane bere. at all 09:52:58 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> before. 09:53:02 <PublicServer> <0DM> then a better choice would be to find out why thats the case;) 09:53:36 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> okay okay. i will remove it. again :> 09:53:45 <PublicServer> <0DM> hehe sorry mate^^ 09:53:54 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> nah its okay. im learning :> 09:53:55 <PublicServer> <0DM> if the line gets busier it will actually have a negative influence 09:54:02 <PublicServer> *** Shinji has left the game (leaving) 09:55:00 *** benko has quit IRC 09:55:04 *** benom has quit IRC 09:55:31 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> now its removed :> 09:56:47 *** Phazorx has quit IRC 09:59:42 <PublicServer> <0DM> uhm, who added the line +b ridges near feeeby cross? 10:00:04 <PublicServer> <pugi> i did :D 10:00:09 <PublicServer> <0DM> i am wondering why:p 10:00:17 <PublicServer> <pugi> though noone has used it yet i think :P 10:00:26 <PublicServer> <0DM> no, theres no reason for it^^ 10:00:28 *** Phazorx has joined #openttdcoop 10:00:28 *** Webster sets mode: +o Phazorx 10:00:51 <PublicServer> <pugi> i saw a reason while you were rebuilding the other entry :P 10:00:58 <PublicServer> <0DM> haha 10:01:09 <PublicServer> <pugi> but that is gone now i think ^^ 10:01:25 <PublicServer> <0DM> yeah think so 10:01:34 <PublicServer> <0DM> i build in smell steps, in the meantime things may be off 10:01:39 <PublicServer> <0DM> 2 things left to fix now 10:01:40 <PublicServer> <pugi> well, it can't hurt, can it? 10:02:15 <PublicServer> <0DM> well, if you leave it, people might think its important;) 10:03:03 <PublicServer> <pugi> now it is unimportant :P 10:03:06 <PublicServer> <0DM> haha 10:03:19 * theholyduck wants to play, but has to get home first 10:03:32 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00025455: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00025455.png 10:03:50 <PublicServer> <0DM> can anyone turn the exit or entry of whithaven common woods, so they turn the same way? 10:04:05 <PublicServer> <0DM> point* 10:04:16 <PublicServer> <pugi> haha 10:04:41 <PublicServer> <pugi> good job mrruben :P 10:04:49 <PublicServer> <0DM> no that was my fault 10:04:56 <PublicServer> <0DM> in the original station design it wasnt an issue 10:05:07 <PublicServer> <0DM> but i made 2 seperate stations for each direction 10:05:10 <PublicServer> <0DM> at sweets dorp 10:06:02 <PublicServer> *** Tray has left the game (connection lost) 10:07:40 <PublicServer> <0DM> where are you ducky? 10:10:24 *** Shinji has quit IRC 10:10:43 <PublicServer> <pugi> omg, mega tunnel? 10:10:46 <PublicServer> <0DM> yes:D 10:10:49 <PublicServer> <0DM> for now^^ 10:10:56 <PublicServer> <0DM> or do you want to make a decent solution?:p 10:11:27 <PublicServer> <pugi> i thought of almost the old exit 10:11:34 <PublicServer> <pugi> just bridging to the other side 10:11:41 <PublicServer> <pugi> but this seems to be better 10:11:42 <PublicServer> <0DM> go for it! 10:11:50 <PublicServer> <0DM> this was a cheat:p 10:11:51 <PublicServer> <pugi> no, i like the idea 10:12:04 <PublicServer> <0DM> ill just go concentrate on the sweeties:D 10:12:28 *** elmz has joined #openttdcoop 10:12:43 <TS> !password 10:12:43 <PublicServer> TS: skying 10:12:52 <PublicServer> *** sonic joined the game 10:12:55 <PublicServer> *** Tray joined the game 10:13:35 <PublicServer> <0DM> hey sonic 10:13:46 <PublicServer> <sonic> hi 0DM 10:14:09 <PublicServer> <0DM> sorry for trashing your station 10:14:22 <XeryusTC> good morning 10:14:23 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 10:14:34 <PublicServer> <sonic> np :) 10:14:39 <PublicServer> <sonic> hi XeryusTC 10:14:42 <PublicServer> <0DM> i liked it though 10:14:44 <PublicServer> <0DM> hey mate 10:15:46 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hub 10 jams again :s 10:16:11 *** Shinji has joined #openttdcoop 10:16:38 <XeryusTC> !rcon patch town_growth_rate 10:16:38 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Current value for 'town_growth_rate' is: '0' (min: 0, max: 4) 10:17:35 <theholyduck> ODM, so, apparently 10:17:39 <theholyduck> your magic chaos plan 10:17:42 <theholyduck> is jam-tastic? 10:17:46 <PublicServer> <0DM> yeah 10:17:56 <PublicServer> <0DM> people went on a train adding frenzy last night it seems 10:18:05 <PublicServer> <0DM> which is not the way to go 10:18:06 <theholyduck> ODM, how many is it at atm? 10:18:13 <PublicServer> <0DM> 687 10:18:17 <theholyduck> .... 10:18:19 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i will check tt-f and then do something about hub 10 :P 10:18:21 <theholyduck> it was just over 500 when i left 10:18:23 <PublicServer> <sonic> it seems they don't want to pick the outer lane 10:18:24 <theholyduck> and the system was jamming 10:18:34 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001CF1F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001CF1F.png 10:18:34 <PublicServer> <0DM> nice xeryus 10:18:38 <theholyduck> who in their right mind adds another 180 trains? 10:18:42 <PublicServer> <0DM> not me 10:18:43 <theholyduck> to a system thats allready jamming? 10:18:47 <PublicServer> <0DM> but now we have things to fix^^ 10:18:55 <XeryusTC> i added quite a few yesterday after i fixed hub 5 10:19:20 <XeryusTC> it is mainly the secondary trains which cause the jams though :s 10:19:51 <theholyduck> the sweets to town and toyfactory to toy drop? 10:19:59 <theholyduck> that both cross the entire map 10:20:01 <theholyduck> and eachother 10:20:23 <PublicServer> <0DM> consider it a challenge:P 10:20:29 <theholyduck> couldnt we force the toy trains 10:20:36 <theholyduck> to detour around the south west side? 10:20:42 <theholyduck> with some waypoints? 10:20:48 <PublicServer> <0DM> thats cheating 10:20:52 <theholyduck> :P 10:20:56 <theholyduck> it would work though 10:21:04 <XeryusTC> the joiner from toy factory needs to be improved though 10:21:17 <PublicServer> <0DM> yup 10:21:25 <theholyduck> if the toy trains didnt cross/meet the sweet trains 10:21:30 <PublicServer> <0DM> and my roundabout needs a little maintenance 10:21:31 <PublicServer> *** leg3nd has joined spectators 10:21:33 <theholyduck> our lifes would be a million times easier 10:21:41 <theholyduck> i think 10:21:57 *** OwenS has joined #openttdcoop 10:25:31 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> too many trains use St. Pitport Woods to turn around it seems 10:25:52 <PublicServer> <0DM> and sesdingney falls woods 10:25:58 <PublicServer> <0DM> better find out why theyre doing it 10:26:05 <PublicServer> <0DM> theyre going to sweets pickup 10:26:11 <theholyduck> this game needs some sort of 10:26:25 <theholyduck> "ask a train why its doing what its doing" 10:26:26 <theholyduck> deature 10:26:32 <theholyduck> *feature 10:26:35 <PublicServer> <0DM> yes! 10:26:56 <XeryusTC> there should be a find entire path feature 10:27:26 <theholyduck> XeryusTC, preferably with some hints explaining why 10:27:29 <theholyduck> but yeah 10:27:36 <theholyduck> i allready have the pbs path reservation thing on 10:27:50 <PublicServer> <0DM> i declare sweets rebuild 10:27:53 <PublicServer> <0DM> quite happy with it 10:28:17 *** Shinji has quit IRC 10:28:39 <PublicServer> <pugi> i declare the megatunnels-rebuild :D 10:28:46 <PublicServer> <0DM> haha 10:28:47 <PublicServer> <0DM> i love that one 10:28:49 <theholyduck> i declare myself at school 10:28:50 <PublicServer> <0DM> it looks great 10:29:02 * theholyduck goes to seek for liberation from class 10:29:14 <PublicServer> <0DM> yeah come home and rebuild things 10:29:31 <PublicServer> <pugi> 2 tunnels for 40 length is good? :P 10:29:38 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i've build two primaries in this game :o 10:29:47 <PublicServer> <0DM> nah, but its fine for a primary 10:29:48 <PublicServer> *** Tray has left the game (connection lost) 10:29:53 <PublicServer> <0DM> i think im on 5 xeryus:p 10:30:15 <theholyduck> ODM, how is my town drop doing? 10:30:18 <theholyduck> is it still coping? 10:30:27 <PublicServer> <0DM> it hwas 2 lines now 10:30:28 <PublicServer> <0DM> doing fine 10:30:33 <theholyduck> weee 10:30:38 <PublicServer> <0DM> problems are at toys 10:30:41 <theholyduck> simple design is simple 10:30:52 <PublicServer> <0DM> but xeryus is doing some mad work^^ 10:30:53 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> removed full load orders for toy trains 10:31:06 <theholyduck> not enough toys being produced? 10:31:24 <PublicServer> <pugi> damn, i have a cl2 10:31:27 <PublicServer> <0DM> too many toy trains i think 10:31:35 <PublicServer> <0DM> aw poor you 10:31:48 <PublicServer> <pugi> two of them! 10:31:55 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> slh1 has a serious case of the jams 10:32:01 <theholyduck> hmm. after this chaos map, i should try getting through a nice and simplistic eyecandy game 10:32:08 <theholyduck> with a ton of station newgrf's to whore with 10:32:21 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, missing signal 10:32:22 <theholyduck> just to kill the memory of toyland 10:32:23 <PublicServer> <0DM> uhm 1 seems fine here 10:32:41 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> see !make a 4->2 joiner 10:32:51 <PublicServer> <0DM> uh oh 10:33:02 *** dihedral has joined #openttdcoop 10:33:04 <dihedral> hey 10:33:05 <PublicServer> <0DM> want me to do it? 10:33:08 <PublicServer> <0DM> so you can work elsewhere? 10:33:09 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yeah 10:33:10 <PublicServer> <0DM> hey dih 10:33:13 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i've signed the lines 10:33:15 <dihedral> oh ye openttdcoop admins ;-) 10:33:18 <PublicServer> <0DM> thanks, will do 10:33:23 <XeryusTC> hey dihedral 10:33:35 <dihedral> where on earth did you get gid 1004 from? 10:33:36 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000098A5: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000098A5.png 10:33:53 <PublicServer> <0DM> ? 10:34:11 <dihedral> on the server, the openttdcoop blog folder for uploads sais gid = 1004 10:34:23 <dihedral> did someone untar stuff to be moving things over? 10:34:36 <PublicServer> <0DM> *no clue what you're talking about* 10:34:51 <PublicServer> <0DM> though there was something with uploads on blog, they didnt work 10:34:57 <PublicServer> *** sonic has joined spectators 10:35:02 <dihedral> i'll ask Ammler ;-) 10:36:41 <XeryusTC> probably his fault indeed :P 10:36:51 <PublicServer> <0DM> trying to help me:( 10:37:10 *** TS has quit IRC 10:41:03 <PublicServer> <0DM> xeryus, near the roundabout, the RR is missing a connection to fizzy drop 10:41:23 <PublicServer> <0DM> oh you were working on it sorry:p 10:41:25 <Ammler> XeryusTC: unimpossible... ;-) 10:41:44 <XeryusTC> ODM: didnt finish that yet :P 10:41:48 <PublicServer> <0DM> hehe 10:42:27 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> you should make cola drop 2 lanes in 10:42:59 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> in the meanwhile i will make 10->unnamed hub LLRR 10:43:16 <PublicServer> <0DM> aight 10:43:32 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, better make cola 2 way 10:43:35 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it is jamming half the network 10:43:40 <dihedral> 12:41 <@Ammler> XeryusTC: unimpossible... ;-) <- nice word-creation 10:43:52 <PublicServer> <0DM> what do you mean? 10:44:05 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> see !reconnect when cola has 2 10:44:12 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> right about there it jams 10:44:15 <PublicServer> <0DM> ah yeah 10:44:20 <PublicServer> <0DM> too many joins before splits 10:44:27 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> via hub 5 to the unnamed hub 10:44:49 <PublicServer> <0DM> the big hill near your WIP doesnt help either btw 10:44:59 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> indeed 10:45:17 <PublicServer> <pugi> and disconnect primaries from the main line :D 10:45:50 *** baeda has joined #openttdcoop 10:45:54 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> we need a [s]victim[/s] volunteer to make all SLHs go in every direction 10:46:01 <PublicServer> <0DM> hehe 10:46:02 <PublicServer> <pugi> :D 10:46:21 <PublicServer> <0DM> tbh im having a ton of fun with this game sofar 10:46:25 <baeda> hey guys 10:46:28 <PublicServer> <0DM> heya 10:47:55 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm 10:48:36 <PublicServer> <0DM> im gonna make a temporary cheat to speed things up 10:48:38 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000C8D9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000C8D9.png 10:49:15 <PublicServer> <0DM> if you laugh ill kill you:p 10:49:30 <Phazorx> is there some way to make game not to spawn industries? 10:49:34 <dihedral> awe... how cute ODM :-P 10:49:36 <dihedral> hey Phazorx 10:49:39 <Phazorx> heya dih 10:49:43 *** mrruben5 has joined #openttdcoop 10:49:49 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i've hacked in a extra cola entry :P 10:49:51 <Phazorx> are you cooplaying again? 10:50:06 <dihedral> i have not played games in a while.... 10:50:10 <mrruben5> !password 10:50:10 <PublicServer> mrruben5: girder 10:50:12 <dihedral> a long while :-P 10:50:13 <Phazorx> same here 10:50:25 <Phazorx> and tyland doesnt help me getting back in here :) 10:50:27 <dihedral> but i installed eaccelerator on the werver (blog and wiki) 10:50:31 <PublicServer> <0DM> where? 10:50:32 <dihedral> that should make some guys happy 10:50:43 <dihedral> *server 10:50:44 <Phazorx> nice 10:50:47 <dihedral> did that a few days ago 10:50:51 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> odm: what about destroying the northern half of the roundabout and make everything else LLxRR? 10:50:52 <Phazorx> nginx+fcgi? 10:50:58 <dihedral> apache2 10:51:01 <Phazorx> ewww 10:51:04 <dihedral> :-P 10:51:05 <PublicServer> <0DM> nooo not the roundabout:( 10:51:21 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> see !join SL here and !remove this 10:51:24 <dihedral> Phazorx: most of the server is (sadly) managed by plesk 10:51:35 <PublicServer> *** MrRuben5 joined the game 10:51:40 <Phazorx> dihedral: that complicates things 10:51:46 <dihedral> + i want svn served via http 10:51:47 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> jamming united XD 10:51:47 <PublicServer> <0DM> hold on 10:51:55 <Phazorx> dihedral: nginx can do that 10:52:01 <Ammler> ODM: dihedral fixed the blog issue... 10:52:08 <Phazorx> or a worst be cachigng frontend webserver for apcahe 10:52:11 <dihedral> and php as module is a bit nicer if you ask me ^^ 10:52:13 <PublicServer> <0DM> thanks mate 10:52:30 <Phazorx> dihedral: i'm more a fanof CGI model 10:52:30 <dihedral> you're welcome 10:52:37 <dihedral> really? 10:52:37 <PublicServer> <0DM> aka, instead of a roundabout, have it be 3/4 LLRR? 10:52:42 <Phazorx> since i'm more concerned about performance than features 10:52:52 <dihedral> php5.3 re-introduces persistant sql connections :-) 10:52:54 <dihedral> in mysqli module 10:53:14 <Ammler> currently on our server apache runs only for the www.openttdcoop.org portal and still is quite slow 10:53:18 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> bah, i hate incomplete signalling at drops :s 10:53:23 <Ammler> well, and bundles 10:53:37 <dihedral> Ammler: install an accelerator 10:53:44 <dihedral> i got speed improvements out that that, big time 10:53:47 <Phazorx> well i have weid architecture view andstrnae design principles 10:53:49 <PublicServer> <0DM> woo i made it flow:p 10:53:52 <Ammler> and devzone with nginx just is awesome fast :-) 10:53:53 <dihedral> seeing as it nicely does opcode caching 10:54:05 <Phazorx> eacc is a very good step 10:54:23 <PublicServer> <pugi> someone redid south sweets drop 10:54:30 <PublicServer> <0DM> yes 10:54:30 <Phazorx> but as well as memcache i usualy see it as a hack for a covering design flaw 10:54:34 <PublicServer> <pugi> and removed my unneccesary line :( 10:54:36 <PublicServer> <pugi> :D 10:54:40 <baeda> !password 10:54:40 <PublicServer> baeda: girder 10:54:40 <PublicServer> <0DM> hehe 10:54:44 <dihedral> apc is planned to be in php6, but php6 seems to be a never reachable state of php 10:54:46 <PublicServer> *** phatmatt has left the game (connection lost) 10:54:50 <PublicServer> *** baeda joined the game 10:55:01 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> 0DM: i have no clue on how to improve cola drop except from starting with destroying stuff :P 10:55:03 <Ammler> dihedral: the effort to install acceleration plugin could also be used to install php as fcgi modul for nginx :-) 10:55:07 <dihedral> Phazorx: memcache can be fun though :-P 10:55:14 <PublicServer> *** phatmatt joined the game 10:55:15 <PublicServer> <0DM> aww its not that bad! 10:55:32 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> well, most improvements need such a revamp that is is easier to start with :P 10:55:41 <dihedral> Ammler: eacc is a php module, not an apache2 module ;-) 10:55:54 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, we could start with Teningville East and COLA Pickup 1 10:55:54 <Phazorx> dihedral: again, i have weird architecture/design concept - i firmly beleive that things that are close to static should be served as static content and rendered on change not on view 10:55:55 <dihedral> so you can still use eacc 10:55:56 <Ammler> so I could use it also with nginx? 10:55:57 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> make a proper SLH for that 10:56:08 <PublicServer> <0DM> put it more east? 10:56:08 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> or connect it to the other semi SLH :P 10:56:11 <PublicServer> <0DM> or south 10:56:15 <Ammler> is that a kind of bytecode compiler? 10:56:18 <dihedral> Phazorx: there is a pro and contra for both ^^ 10:56:28 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> change the SLH which is south so it goes into every direction 10:56:38 <PublicServer> <0DM> something like that 10:56:41 <dihedral> preprocessing is one way 10:56:44 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and connect it to that 10:56:51 <PublicServer> <pugi> do some trains pick up cola at sweets drop? :O 10:57:06 <PublicServer> <0DM> no 10:57:08 <dihedral> i used to work with preprocessing template system 10:57:29 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> not all trains have non stop orders 10:57:34 <Phazorx> well it depends on nature of conetent 10:57:36 <PublicServer> <0DM> some cola trains went inthere, and picked up 10:57:40 <PublicServer> <0DM> its slowly going down i think 10:57:49 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it was less yesterday evening :o 10:57:50 <Ammler> my monitor script does almost hourly restart apache :-) 10:57:52 <Phazorx> and in many common web cases you get low amount of changes for high amount of views 10:57:53 <dihedral> however, if you manage to squeeze that into < 200 000 micro seconds, or memcache the result and bypass the templating system over all for a certain amount of time ^^ 10:57:56 <dihedral> that's funn 10:58:03 <PublicServer> <0DM> lol 10:58:15 <PublicServer> <0DM> anyway, lunchtime, bb 10:58:23 <Ammler> nginx is once started and runs like a sharm 10:58:27 <PublicServer> *** 0DM has left the game (leaving) 11:03:40 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000182D9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000182D9.png 11:05:24 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 11:05:24 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 11:05:35 <PublicServer> *** sonic has left the game (connection lost) 11:10:40 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop 11:13:00 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> slh 03 done :D 11:14:40 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> oh, I like what has been done at hub 03 :D 11:14:50 *** Radicalimero has joined #openttdcoop 11:16:36 <PublicServer> <pugi> too many trains at sleeness ridge woods? :D 11:16:53 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> remove some then 11:16:58 <PublicServer> <pugi> yeah :P 11:18:42 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001D784: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001D784.png 11:18:57 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> odm: it is alot simpler now :D 11:19:00 <PublicServer> <pugi> lunch tiem :D 11:19:09 *** Mitcian has joined #openttdcoop 11:19:17 <ODM> nice:) 11:19:35 <Radicalimero> !password 11:19:35 <PublicServer> Radicalimero: clover 11:19:36 *** theholyduck has quit IRC 11:19:43 <PublicServer> *** Radicalimero joined the game 11:19:52 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> now removing a part of cola drop :P 11:22:55 <ODM> gneos youre killing it!:P 11:23:11 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i like to call it improvements 11:23:26 <ODM> probably 11:28:28 <PublicServer> *** leg3nd has left the game (connection lost) 11:33:44 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00010F40: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00010F40.png 11:38:33 *** Headshot119 has joined #openttdcoop 11:38:34 *** Lukeus_Maximus has joined #openttdcoop 11:38:35 <Headshot119> !password 11:38:35 <PublicServer> Headshot119: boiler 11:38:36 <Lukeus_Maximus> !password 11:38:36 <PublicServer> Lukeus_Maximus: boiler 11:38:45 <PublicServer> *** headshot119 has left the game (connection lost) 11:39:01 <PublicServer> *** headshot119 joined the game 11:39:03 <PublicServer> *** Lukeus_Maximus has left the game (connection lost) 11:39:17 *** dashing has joined #openttdcoop 11:39:19 <PublicServer> *** Lukeus_Maximus joined the game 11:40:42 <Lukeus_Maximus> there is a problem with this chaos 11:40:49 <Lukeus_Maximus> if you remove a link 11:40:50 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it jams like hell 11:40:56 <Headshot119> agreed 11:40:58 <Lukeus_Maximus> stuff piles through the wrong stations 11:41:14 <dashing> !passworfd 11:41:16 <dashing> !password 11:41:16 <PublicServer> dashing: boiler 11:41:29 <PublicServer> *** dashing joined the game 11:41:49 <PublicServer> * XeryusTC kills V453k and ODM 11:41:58 <ODM> what now?:P 11:42:26 <PublicServer> *** 0DM joined the game 11:42:36 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> fizzy trains were forced to go one way on the roundabout 11:42:42 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> now i've forced them to go the other way :P 11:42:53 <PublicServer> <0DM> yes, thats true 11:43:10 <PublicServer> <0DM> hows progress? 11:43:22 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> slow 11:43:25 <PublicServer> <0DM> heh 11:43:53 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> hmm, trains seem to load cargo instantly? 11:44:00 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yes 11:44:03 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> :o 11:44:04 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i turned gradual loading off 11:44:12 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> tis faster with small trains 11:44:17 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> especially with default trainset 11:44:44 <PublicServer> <0DM> wasnt that impossible in networkgames now? 11:44:49 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yes 11:44:55 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> too many vehicles in game :D 11:45:10 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> good, we dont need more 11:45:38 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> well I need to make some trains for this battery farm 11:45:40 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> notwork is jamming and all you can think about is adding trains :s 11:45:46 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> hmm 11:47:10 <PublicServer> <dashing> teningville woods has a lot of trains going through the station that doesnt need to (?) 11:47:25 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yes, there are plenty of bugs in the network 11:47:37 <PublicServer> <dashing> its a huge jam there when the station has 3 trains loading 11:48:00 <PublicServer> <0DM> to be honest, its hard to say whats wrong while building is going on:P 11:48:07 <PublicServer> <0DM> but ill have a look! 11:48:30 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> we need someone who goes through all SLHs and makes them 3 way 11:48:39 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> instead of forcing trains one way over the ML 11:48:46 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000074A4: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000074A4.png 11:48:53 <PublicServer> <pugi> back :) 11:48:56 <PublicServer> <0DM> wb 11:49:00 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> maybe it's the perfect job for all you newbies around here 11:49:03 <PublicServer> <0DM> well more maintenance 11:49:12 <Lukeus_Maximus> train limit! 11:49:19 <Lukeus_Maximus> we've hit the train limit! 11:49:26 <PublicServer> <0DM> stop adding trains 11:49:43 <PublicServer> <Radicalimero> now he can't 11:49:52 <PublicServer> <0DM> xeryus, they go through that station because you remove the eastside beer drop;) 11:50:33 <PublicServer> <dashing> is the train at teningville east supposed to go back and forth at the station ? 11:50:47 <PublicServer> <0DM> yes thats modern:p 11:50:47 <PublicServer> <pugi> no :P 11:50:57 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> lmao 11:51:00 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> bad signa; 11:51:10 <PublicServer> <0DM> alright guys, you heard the man 11:51:13 <PublicServer> <pugi> ruben, i redid one of your stations :D 11:51:16 <PublicServer> <0DM> proper 2-way SLH's 11:51:16 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> :o 11:51:18 <PublicServer> <pugi> as requested by odm 11:51:23 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> where pugi? 11:51:31 <PublicServer> <pugi> hub 03 11:51:45 <PublicServer> <pugi> now with megatunnels :D 11:51:48 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> yes I saw :) 11:52:02 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> nice work :) traffic is actually on the SL there now 11:52:22 <PublicServer> <pugi> idea to use tunnels came from 0DM 11:52:31 <Lukeus_Maximus> there's traffic blocking back people 11:52:35 <PublicServer> <pugi> but i think he was joking :P 11:52:36 <PublicServer> <0DM> uh oh:p 11:52:42 <PublicServer> <0DM> ya, but still:D 11:53:36 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> hmm, does traffic from 10 to 11 need LL_RR?? 11:53:53 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 11:54:02 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> 10 needs LLRR everywhere 11:54:40 <PublicServer> <0DM> ugh i cant remember the numbers:p 11:55:27 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i am about to cause a massive detour for all beer trains :P 11:55:33 <PublicServer> <0DM> lol 11:55:35 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> now they're all detouring :P 11:55:42 <PublicServer> <0DM> we are doomed:p 11:56:32 <PublicServer> <0DM> precisely where i was working:p 11:58:12 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> dinningdon heights is going to be new beer pickup? 11:58:19 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> or cola bubbless drop 11:58:24 <PublicServer> <0DM> drop i think 11:58:30 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> sucks :P 11:58:45 <PublicServer> <pugi> i like the fact that in your mind cola + bubbles = beer :D 11:58:52 <PublicServer> <0DM> lol 11:58:53 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> :D 11:59:08 <PublicServer> <0DM> isnt it? 11:59:11 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> I thought cola already had bubbles :P 12:02:05 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> wait, 4 way hub? 12:02:13 <PublicServer> <0DM> where? 12:02:30 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> cola/bubbles 12:02:36 <PublicServer> <0DM> not fully 12:02:57 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> hmm yeah trains can't go from south to west yet 12:03:49 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000F4A1: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000F4A1.png 12:04:35 *** Barbaar has joined #openttdcoop 12:04:43 <Barbaar> !password 12:04:43 <PublicServer> Barbaar: taxied 12:04:49 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> good stuff :P 12:04:54 <PublicServer> *** Barbaar joined the game 12:05:01 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> heya everyone 12:05:07 <PublicServer> *** MrRuben5 has changed his/her name to MrRuben 12:05:20 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> damn highlighting 12:05:20 <PublicServer> <0DM> hellow 12:05:39 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> hey barbaar 12:05:48 <PublicServer> <baeda> heya 12:06:45 <PublicServer> <0DM> already made 2 parts 2-way^^ 12:08:13 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> poor trains :P they're lost 12:08:14 <PublicServer> *** dashing has left the game (desync error) 12:08:25 <PublicServer> <0DM> not that surprising really:D 12:08:29 <dashing> ?_? 12:08:40 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> dashing: BEEER :D 12:08:55 <PublicServer> <pugi> some of sleeness ridge woods trains have single orders and no non-stop <.< 12:09:06 <dashing> !password 12:09:06 <PublicServer> dashing: taxied 12:09:17 <PublicServer> *** dashing joined the game 12:09:19 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> see !needs balancer 12:09:37 <PublicServer> <0DM> weird 12:10:14 <PublicServer> <0DM> ugh another balancer?:P 12:10:25 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it is a simple one this time :P 12:11:08 <PublicServer> <0DM> by the way, youre missing a connection from south to west 12:12:01 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh woops 12:12:07 <PublicServer> <0DM> ;0 12:12:08 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> my station wasnt part of the cola drop :P 12:12:18 <PublicServer> <baeda> :D 12:12:22 <PublicServer> <0DM> lol 12:12:23 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> that wat what I said earlier :P 12:12:35 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> you could've fixed it 12:12:44 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> instead of letting trains jam some more 12:13:22 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> I meant the connection from south to west 12:13:32 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> not going to fix that while you're building there 12:13:57 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> xD 12:14:10 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> you can fix stuff which is a blatant error 12:14:40 <PublicServer> <0DM> i am confused by your total plan 12:14:41 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> I'd rather not mess with stuff that you just created and that you are busy with :) 12:14:45 <PublicServer> <0DM> but youve probably though about it 12:15:06 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> 0DM: no :P 12:15:11 <PublicServer> <0DM> oh 12:15:19 <PublicServer> <0DM> the beer pickup trains have to do a massive detour atm 12:15:19 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> he drank too little beer 12:15:26 <PublicServer> <0DM> because south -> west doesnt exit 12:15:29 <PublicServer> <0DM> excists 12:15:31 <PublicServer> <0DM> exists 12:15:32 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i know :P 12:15:32 <PublicServer> <0DM> damnit 12:15:34 <PublicServer> <0DM> k^^ 12:15:38 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> loads of stuff doesnt exist yet 12:15:39 <PublicServer> <0DM> just checking 12:15:58 *** theholyduck has joined #openttdcoop 12:16:06 <PublicServer> <0DM> sounds like sweet factory, that took me over 2 hours:p 12:16:14 <theholyduck> !password 12:16:14 <PublicServer> theholyduck: taxied 12:16:27 <PublicServer> *** theholyduck joined the game 12:16:31 <PublicServer> <0DM> and now its awesum 12:16:35 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> yo 12:16:37 <PublicServer> <0DM> yo duck 12:16:44 <PublicServer> <baeda> hey 12:16:47 <PublicServer> <0DM> back home? 12:16:48 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> should've seen hub 5 then 12:16:50 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> yes 12:16:53 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> took me a few hours :P 12:17:01 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> how is the jamming problem? 12:17:17 <PublicServer> <0DM> xeryus, i see hub 5, and i have no clue what it does:D 12:17:25 <PublicServer> <0DM> its quite decent actually 12:17:49 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i have a question 12:17:50 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it is a BBH and a MSH in one 12:17:57 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 12:18:00 <PublicServer> <0DM> for now i want to go LLRR from 10 to 11 12:18:07 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> at !WUT? 12:18:11 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> why does this even exist? 12:18:18 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> theres like almost never any traffic on it 12:18:20 <PublicServer> <0DM> and LLLRRR from 8 till 5 12:18:27 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> and its way overkill 12:18:36 <PublicServer> <0DM> hehe no clue:D 12:18:51 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000118BE: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000118BE.png 12:18:58 *** Yexo has quit IRC 12:19:06 *** Yexo has joined #openttdcoop 12:19:08 <PublicServer> <0DM> duck, wanna give me a hand? 12:19:29 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> where? 12:19:46 <PublicServer> <0DM> i want to move the stations chohall woods and chohall east to the SL west of there 12:19:48 <PublicServer> <0DM> to free up space 12:19:58 <PublicServer> <0DM> and then build a prover slh 12:20:10 <PublicServer> <0DM> proper* 12:20:33 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> i can help too if you want? 12:20:36 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> the one waiting 80 ages to merge onto the tracks at 10? 12:20:40 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> might want to move pitport woods also then? 12:20:47 <PublicServer> <0DM> yeah those things 12:20:57 <PublicServer> <0DM> id say move pitpot woods to the SL on the north side 12:21:01 <PublicServer> <0DM> across the water 12:21:07 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> i'll do that 12:21:17 <PublicServer> * theholyduck tries to time how long a train has to wait before merging 12:21:22 <PublicServer> <0DM> long. 12:21:29 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> over 20 secs 12:21:30 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> :P 12:21:33 <PublicServer> <0DM> long! 12:21:38 <PublicServer> <baeda> you better startet the stopwatch before going to bed duck. 12:24:01 <PublicServer> *** Lukeus_Maximus has left the game (connection lost) 12:24:19 *** Shinji has joined #openttdcoop 12:25:26 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> gah 12:25:37 <PublicServer> <0DM> gah? 12:25:39 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> someone posted a sign on a small error of mine again 12:25:43 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> instead of fixing it xD 12:25:49 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> lazy bastards :P 12:25:50 <PublicServer> <0DM> lol 12:26:06 <PublicServer> *** Devedse has left the game (connection lost) 12:26:10 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> well if you learn from it? 12:26:11 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> :P 12:26:15 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> odm, lets finalize the design on the area with less signs? 12:26:31 <PublicServer> <0DM> euh?:p 12:26:35 <V453000> hiyeallow everyone 12:26:41 <V453000> !password 12:26:41 <PublicServer> V453000: tailed 12:26:52 <PublicServer> <0DM> heyV 12:26:53 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> heya 12:26:59 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> hey v 12:27:06 <PublicServer> <baeda> hiho 12:27:17 <V453000> how mad yet? 12:27:29 <PublicServer> <0DM> mad 12:27:34 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> insane 12:27:38 <PublicServer> <0DM> weird 12:27:39 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 12:27:40 <V453000> not enough! 12:27:44 <PublicServer> <baeda> hehe 12:27:47 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> :o sweets drop overhaul :D 12:27:50 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> well, on a scale from mad to insane 12:27:52 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i must be mental xD 12:28:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> :D 12:28:47 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i'll start working on the chohall stations 12:28:52 <PublicServer> <0DM> k 12:28:55 <Headshot119> !password 12:28:55 <PublicServer> Headshot119: tailed 12:29:03 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> ok, pitport woods and lines moved 12:29:06 <PublicServer> *** Lukeus_Maximus joined the game 12:29:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> needs less jams is a nicely explanatory sign :D 12:29:21 *** Lukeus_Maximus_ has joined #openttdcoop 12:29:25 <PublicServer> <0DM> lol 12:30:04 <PublicServer> <pugi> ruben? 12:30:09 <PublicServer> <pugi> did you do !WUT? 12:30:10 <PublicServer> <pugi> :D 12:30:16 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> no 12:30:28 <PublicServer> <pugi> i mean the bridges and signals 12:30:35 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> oh 12:30:37 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> yes 12:30:42 <PublicServer> <pugi> bad :P 12:30:47 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> but I did not make the !wut sign 12:30:50 <PublicServer> <pugi> not synced 12:30:56 <PublicServer> <pugi> and pbs has no use there 12:30:57 *** Lukeus_Maximus has quit IRC 12:31:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> well sync isnt the best issue there :D 12:31:03 *** Lukeus_Maximus_ is now known as Lukeus_Maximus 12:31:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> pbs does 12:31:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> but minor 12:31:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> and insufficient :) 12:31:26 <PublicServer> <pugi> i'll fix it 12:31:31 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> odd to see that this is actually of the same project as the hub 5 rebuild xD 12:31:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> ? 12:31:56 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i wanted hub 5->hub2 to be llrr 12:32:06 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but that needed more fixing than i expected :o 12:32:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> hehe 12:32:39 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> call me a noob pugi, but how does syncing near !WUT improve the traffic that is ridiculously low there anyway? 12:32:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> XeryusTC: what the hell is this: !o_O :D 12:33:09 <PublicServer> <pugi> just always try to sync, not hard most of the time 12:33:28 <PublicServer> <pugi> also CL2 down there 12:33:31 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> double bridge 12:33:35 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> with wrong signals :D 12:33:39 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> go fix :P 12:33:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> aye 12:33:53 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000363D6: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000363D6.png 12:34:34 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> see Sesdingney Falls Woods 12:34:41 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> those stations need a proper SLH :P 12:34:45 <Shinji> Hi Xeryus. 12:34:48 *** Thraxian|Work has joined #openttdcoop 12:34:48 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Thraxian|Work 12:34:50 <PublicServer> <0DM> im working on it damnit:( 12:34:53 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hey Shinji 12:35:05 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, nothing said then :P 12:35:15 <PublicServer> <0DM> its just alot of work:p 12:35:51 <Shinji> !password 12:35:51 <PublicServer> Shinji: rifles 12:35:53 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i recognise that from somewhere xD 12:35:57 <PublicServer> *** Shinji has left the game (connection lost) 12:36:01 <PublicServer> <0DM> sorry:$ 12:36:06 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> :P 12:36:09 <PublicServer> *** Shinji joined the game 12:36:23 <PublicServer> *** sonic joined the game 12:36:32 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> the chohall hookups are basicly done, i just need the slh to work 12:36:38 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> so that trains can merge onto the line 12:36:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> hmfff 12:37:02 <PublicServer> <0DM> yeah working on it 12:37:11 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> theres literally 11 trains waiting to merge 12:37:59 <PublicServer> <0DM> thatll stay untill the 2nd line comes on 12:38:18 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> ah, the battery place now hooks up from my place 12:38:19 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> weee 12:38:56 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> :O a train just did something stupid 12:39:08 <PublicServer> <pugi> where? 12:39:09 <PublicServer> <0DM> can someone fix sesdingney falls woods properly? 12:39:11 <PublicServer> <0DM> unlike the hack i did;) 12:39:22 <PublicServer> <pugi> evil hacker 12:39:23 <PublicServer> <pugi> :D 12:39:40 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> odm: terra forming? 12:40:03 <PublicServer> <0DM> ? 12:40:04 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> more detour trains :D 12:40:18 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> 0DM: sesdingley falls 12:40:32 <PublicServer> <0DM> i think it might be better to make it terminus 12:40:44 <PublicServer> <0DM> the tunnel there has to go 12:40:50 <PublicServer> <0DM> for the SLH to fit 12:40:52 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> yeah, i'll do it 12:41:02 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> yeah, people needs to be less horny for roro's 12:41:19 <PublicServer> <pugi> oh no 12:41:21 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> terminal stations are more than adequate for primary pickups 12:41:27 <PublicServer> <pugi> someone is killing the mountain! 12:42:13 <PublicServer> <0DM> guys whos flattening the mountain? 12:42:21 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i got no idea 12:42:22 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> I am, a bit 12:42:25 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> a BIT? 12:42:25 <PublicServer> <0DM> dont 12:42:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> o_O 12:42:32 <PublicServer> <0DM> there was no need for it 12:42:48 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> I thought you said you needed the SLH to fit? 12:42:58 <PublicServer> <0DM> i said the tunnel had to go for it to fit 12:43:01 <PublicServer> <0DM> not the mountain 12:43:15 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> there are some borked stations here :P 12:44:41 <PublicServer> <pugi> who the hell did avonberg bay transfer? 12:45:02 <PublicServer> <0DM> i just lold 12:45:30 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> from what? 12:45:31 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> looks to me like unfinished business 12:45:42 <PublicServer> <0DM> from the lack of signs 12:46:04 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> so, whoever is "fixing "suthwait 12:46:08 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> that train is dreiving me mad 12:46:24 <PublicServer> <0DM> dont be mad! 12:46:30 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> haha sorry duck 12:46:59 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> wow 12:47:00 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> jam 12:47:10 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and it's all my fault :D 12:47:12 <PublicServer> <0DM> lool 12:48:11 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> :O somebody has molested my towndrop for profit 12:48:13 <leg3nd> !password 12:48:13 <PublicServer> leg3nd: rifles 12:48:20 <PublicServer> <0DM> uh? 12:48:31 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> well "molested" 12:48:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> I aded platforms 12:48:34 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> made it better 12:48:35 <PublicServer> *** leg3nd joined the game 12:48:45 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> south to west should work again :D 12:48:55 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002490F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002490F.png 12:49:32 <PublicServer> *** dashing has left the game (leaving) 12:49:59 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hub 2 misses a connection :s 12:50:04 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> jamming everything! 12:50:06 <PublicServer> *** leg3nd has left the game (connection lost) 12:50:18 <PublicServer> *** leg3nd has left the game (connection lost) 12:50:25 <PublicServer> <0DM> uh? 12:50:37 <PublicServer> <0DM> oh thats not my fault^^ 12:50:44 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> tis due to the lazy LLRR someone else dit ;) 12:50:52 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> oh gawd 12:51:08 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> take a look at !JAAAM! 12:52:36 <PublicServer> <0DM> lol chohlal being evil? 12:52:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 12:52:58 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> what being evil? 12:53:20 <PublicServer> <0DM> a town 12:53:27 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh xD 12:54:01 <PublicServer> <0DM> slh 05 done 12:54:14 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> :o we're almost at 700 trains 12:54:16 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> 694 12:54:25 <XeryusTC> !trains 500 12:54:25 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has set max_trains to 500 12:54:27 <XeryusTC> lets not build more ;) 12:54:38 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> :P 12:55:04 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian|Work joined the game 12:55:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> hy 12:55:22 <PublicServer> <0DM> aah its thraxian 12:55:36 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> soo, looking at it from a zoomed out perspective 12:55:42 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> the whole area around toy factory 12:55:49 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> looks like theres no room, at all 12:55:51 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> in it 12:55:55 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> it's me...just peeking in 12:56:01 <PublicServer> <0DM> ah theres plenty there 12:56:21 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> signal gaps...ahhh 12:56:27 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian|Work has joined company #1 12:56:53 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> congestion from 11 to 6 had signal gaps 12:57:14 <PublicServer> <0DM> how unkind 12:57:37 <PublicServer> <pugi> okay 12:57:41 <PublicServer> <pugi> avonberg bay transfer redone 12:57:47 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> this is why I dislike ML loops 12:58:08 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> trains go 11->6->1->5, insteadl of 11->5 for some reason 12:58:28 <PublicServer> <0DM> its shorter obviously 12:58:41 <PublicServer> *** sonic has left the game (leaving) 12:58:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> whats going on at Lewisbrook 12:58:49 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> look at it again, 0DM 12:58:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> that is so ugly 12:58:54 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> 11->5 is much shorter 12:58:57 <PublicServer> <0DM> you missed my sarcasm 12:59:02 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm 12:59:21 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> the roundabout is less of a roundabout now 12:59:25 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and more of awesomenss 12:59:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> =( 12:59:34 <PublicServer> <0DM> :( 12:59:37 <PublicServer> <0DM> i am sad. 12:59:41 <PublicServer> <0DM> but good work 12:59:50 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it is easy to turn it into a roundabout again 12:59:55 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but there isnt much of a point 13:00:04 <PublicServer> <0DM> just adds work 13:00:46 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> so odm, do you approve of the monster you have created? 13:00:51 <PublicServer> <0DM> which? 13:00:54 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> this game 13:00:55 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> :P 13:01:00 <PublicServer> <0DM> i do 13:01:03 <PublicServer> <0DM> its fun. 13:01:06 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> are hubs 3 and 6 connected by a sideline? 13:01:15 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> or is that actually a mainline? 13:01:24 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> how come i always let things look like they're not gaint hacks :D 13:01:28 <PublicServer> <0DM> thrax, give it a name:) 13:01:32 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> thraxian, we dont really have mainlines or sidelines 13:01:33 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> apart from slh 3 :P 13:01:41 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> its just heavy traffic lines and not 13:01:44 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> ok 13:01:51 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> seeing as we're playing chaos 13:01:57 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> most of our mainlines evolved from sidelines 13:02:32 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> 03 to 08 was originally a sideline and is now LL_RR. So.... 13:03:44 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> I wonder if the line betwee 3 and 6 should have station entrances from both directions 13:03:51 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> is it me or is all beer traffic gone? 13:03:57 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001FD92: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001FD92.png 13:03:57 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> might alleviate traffic between 6 and 10 13:04:04 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> its probably hiding somewhere 13:04:17 <PublicServer> <0DM> go for it thrax! 13:05:02 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i am actually starting to like this network 13:05:28 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> its messyness is in a way, beauty 13:05:31 <PublicServer> <0DM> lol 13:05:48 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> yeah right :P 13:05:51 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> spaghetti <3 13:06:02 <PublicServer> <0DM> what he said 13:06:17 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> err.. 13:06:30 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> why is sweet to hub 4a 13:06:33 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> llrr? 13:06:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> train 120 13:06:36 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> theres like 13:06:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> look 13:06:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> omFG 13:06:41 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> no traffic there, at all 13:07:07 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> loljam 13:07:08 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> it used to be very busy 13:07:15 <dashing> if 2 primary resources of the same type is like 15 squares apart, should i make 2 stations or cover both with 1 ? 13:07:30 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> just make it 1 and some stationwalking 13:07:31 <PublicServer> <pugi> both with one 13:07:49 <PublicServer> *** Shinji has left the game (connection lost) 13:07:51 <PublicServer> <pugi> and then place a 1x1 station next to the other one while holding ctrl 13:08:06 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i miss playing with tons of station newgrfs 13:08:13 <PublicServer> <pugi> then you can choose to which station you want to connect that 13:08:13 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> because then you can make stationwalking look plausible 13:08:13 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> me too 13:08:22 <dashing> so technically you could connect every resource on the map with 1 station ? 13:08:27 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> naw 13:08:30 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> 64 square area 13:08:33 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> is the limit i think 13:08:41 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> so a station cant be larger from 1 end to the other 13:08:45 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> than 64 squares 13:08:50 <dashing> ah 13:09:33 <PublicServer> *** phatmatt has left the game (connection lost) 13:10:00 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> laaaag 13:10:00 <PublicServer> <baeda> NOT-gates at Toy factory still tend to jam one a while 13:10:09 <PublicServer> <baeda> once* 13:10:28 <PublicServer> <0DM> aah its all stuck:p 13:10:39 <PublicServer> <pugi> ? 13:10:48 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> toy pickup backup 13:10:53 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> it's resolving 13:11:01 <PublicServer> <pugi> :D 13:11:09 <PublicServer> <baeda> jo just unjammed the train stuck at toy pickup logics 13:11:10 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> might want an overflow depot PF trap there 13:11:13 <PublicServer> <pugi> and !JAAAAAM! :D 13:11:31 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> pugi: same jam 13:11:33 *** Kommer has joined #openttdcoop 13:11:34 <PublicServer> <pugi> <.< 13:11:39 <Kommer> !password 13:11:39 <PublicServer> Kommer: garret 13:11:55 <PublicServer> *** Kommer joined the game 13:12:34 <Lukeus_Maximus> we've hit 3 bil 13:13:23 <PublicServer> <Kommer> lol already 694 trains :) 13:13:25 <PublicServer> <Kommer> busy network 13:13:43 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> not busy, just jamming here and there 13:15:08 <PublicServer> * theholyduck cries out: MY GOD, THEY KILLED THEM ALL! 13:15:10 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> etc 13:15:11 <PublicServer> <0DM> what? 13:15:15 <PublicServer> * theholyduck is listening to a bowie song 13:15:18 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> err 13:15:19 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> dylan 13:15:21 <PublicServer> <0DM> right 13:15:32 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> the not so historical representation of zeh hurricane 13:15:39 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> *historically accurate 13:16:18 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i see alot of empty stations 13:16:22 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> 11 > 6 LL_RR? 13:16:23 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> but we cant make moar trains :P 13:16:26 <Absurd-Mind> !password 13:16:26 <PublicServer> Absurd-Mind: garret 13:16:29 <PublicServer> <0DM> good. 13:16:39 <PublicServer> <0DM> yes ruben 13:16:40 <PublicServer> *** Absurd-Mind joined the game 13:16:42 <PublicServer> <0DM> to 10 even 13:16:47 <PublicServer> <0DM> going slowly^^ 13:17:08 <PublicServer> <0DM> but will get there eventually 13:17:14 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> we got sevral eternity wait prios :P 13:17:29 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> the one for the planham merge for instance 13:17:38 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> the original eternity wait isnt anymore 13:17:40 <PublicServer> <0DM> yes, that needs to be a proper LLRR slh 13:17:50 <PublicServer> <0DM> so go ahead:p 13:18:11 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> theres not enough space for a slh for both directions though 13:18:24 <PublicServer> <0DM> surely 13:18:39 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> wouldnt it be better to just piggyback it ontop of slh05? 13:18:59 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000B4D8: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000B4D8.png 13:19:00 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> though, i can try 13:19:11 <PublicServer> <0DM> thats a big piggyback 13:19:15 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i guess :P 13:19:49 <PublicServer> *** phatmatt has left the game (connection lost) 13:19:52 <phatmatt> !password 13:19:52 <PublicServer> phatmatt: sieves 13:19:57 <PublicServer> *** phatmatt has left the game (connection lost) 13:20:08 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 13:20:10 <PublicServer> *** phatmatt joined the game 13:20:51 <PublicServer> <0DM> is the new LLRR correctly put into hub10? 13:24:35 <PublicServer> *** Barbaar has left the game (leaving) 13:26:00 *** Devedse_ has joined #openttdcoop 13:26:48 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> any comments on DOES THIS WORK? 13:26:56 <PublicServer> <0DM> wow uh 13:27:01 <PublicServer> <0DM> no idea?:P 13:27:02 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i THINK it should 13:27:15 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> it will merge on whatever track has free space 13:27:18 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> in theory atleast 13:27:18 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hub 8 jams :o 13:27:30 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> well, we'll find out if it actually works later 13:27:33 <PublicServer> <0DM> only 8? 13:27:40 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it's a monster jam! 13:27:48 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> hmm, 13:27:52 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> well then time to extend it a bit 13:28:05 *** nighthawk_c_m has joined #openttdcoop 13:28:51 *** Devedse_ has joined #openttdcoop 13:30:01 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> bubble drop area is a mess of spaghetti, hacks and later added lines :o 13:30:15 <PublicServer> <0DM> haha 13:30:44 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it does run smooth now though :D 13:31:10 <PublicServer> <0DM> thats an improvement 13:31:19 <PublicServer> <0DM> duck, you think itll fit in some way or the other? 13:31:21 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> maybe it's a mess because it was a roundabout at first? 13:31:27 <PublicServer> <0DM> roundabouts ftw! 13:31:47 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> kill babies and you get blood on the floor 13:32:11 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> well, i've fixed it being a roundabout a long time ago :P 13:32:16 <PublicServer> <0DM> unless you use a plastic bag 13:33:07 <De_Ghosty> !dl win64 13:33:07 <PublicServer> De_Ghosty: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19594/openttd-trunk-r19594-windows-win64.zip 13:33:31 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> hmm 13:33:32 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> the old cola drop now has one of the weirder double bridges i have created :P 13:33:33 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> wait. 13:33:38 <PublicServer> <0DM> heh 13:33:40 <De_Ghosty> !password 13:33:40 <PublicServer> De_Ghosty: sieves 13:33:48 *** Yexo has quit IRC 13:34:02 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001C794: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001C794.png 13:34:07 <PublicServer> *** De_Ghost has left the game (connection lost) 13:34:09 <De_Ghosty> !password 13:34:09 <PublicServer> De_Ghosty: enigma 13:34:12 *** Yexo has joined #openttdcoop 13:34:33 <PublicServer> *** De_Ghost joined the game 13:34:48 <PublicServer> <0DM> itll be tight duck 13:35:39 <XeryusTC> !trains 750 13:35:39 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has set max_trains to 750 13:37:21 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh wow, toy exit still is jamed like hell xD 13:37:47 <V453000> LMAO! :D Some Czech CounterStrike community has a new 1.0.0 server xD 13:38:08 <PublicServer> <De_Ghost> prior in hubs are kinda bad 13:39:01 <PublicServer> *** Absurd-Mind has left the game (connection lost) 13:39:47 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> boom 13:39:58 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> the good thing about this network, is that trains will find alternate routes 13:40:03 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> or maybe thats the bad thing :P 13:40:16 <PublicServer> <0DM> noone knows:D 13:40:24 <PublicServer> *** De_Ghost has left the game (leaving) 13:40:40 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> slh06 is pretty much done 13:40:47 *** Intexon has joined #openttdcoop 13:40:52 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> now we just need to connect this LLRR in both ends 13:41:00 <PublicServer> <0DM> we're sticking with one way there? 13:41:04 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> yeah 13:41:07 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> it was that way originally 13:41:12 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> and theres not really much space for more 13:41:18 <PublicServer> <0DM> its a bit of a tight spot 13:41:31 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> well, it COULD be done 13:41:36 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> but i dont think we NEED it 13:41:47 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> all that is made there 13:41:53 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> needs to go that direction 13:41:53 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> anyway 13:42:05 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> the other way would be a detour 13:42:24 <PublicServer> *** Kommer has left the game (leaving) 13:43:46 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> who made planham woods? it needs an upgrade :) 13:43:52 <PublicServer> *** Intexon joined the game 13:43:57 <PublicServer> <Intexon> hi 13:44:14 <PublicServer> <pugi> i didnt :P 13:44:15 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> scrap that :) 13:44:55 *** Razmir has joined #openttdcoop 13:45:36 *** Razmir is now known as Guest2253 13:45:50 <PublicServer> *** Razmir joined the game 13:48:08 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> nice, no more trains that seem to be using bypasses 13:48:34 <PublicServer> <0DM> i am off for a bit 13:48:39 <PublicServer> <0DM> dont go crazy with trains now:p 13:49:04 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001BA18: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001BA18.png 13:49:07 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> 750 trains 13:49:12 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> lets keep it at that for now :P 13:49:25 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> butbutbut! :P 13:49:26 <PublicServer> <0DM> sounds good 13:49:41 <PublicServer> *** 0DM has left the game (leaving) 13:49:54 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> it depends on what kind of cargo it is I think 13:50:05 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> batteries for example can be done right? 13:50:11 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> bah at Gresness Mines 13:50:15 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it had no presignals :S 13:50:18 *** Devedse_ has quit IRC 13:50:39 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian|Work has left the game (leaving) 13:50:52 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> hmm 13:51:16 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> somebody need to connect !CONNECT UP to hub 11 13:51:18 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> somehow 13:51:24 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> can plastic/batteries drop have an exit upgrade maybe? 13:51:42 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> go ahead :P 13:52:00 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i dont really dare touch hub 11 13:52:03 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> so much traffic 13:52:10 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> but it needs doing 13:52:13 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> maybe we can join toy trains near hub 11 :D 13:53:01 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> hmm 13:53:11 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> not exactly sure how to do that exit 13:53:19 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> so little space 13:53:20 <PublicServer> <pugi> where? :) 13:53:21 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> if we remove deadingwood 13:53:27 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> plastic/batteries 13:53:29 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> or rather 13:53:32 <PublicServer> *** Lukeus_Maximus has left the game (leaving) 13:53:34 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> shift it to my new slh 13:53:41 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> you get alot more space 13:53:48 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> around wherever 13:55:07 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> If I am counting right, traffic coming from the west at 05 is 2 + 2 + 2 > 2 13:55:20 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> or even 2 + 2 > 2 + 2 > 2 13:55:41 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> see !new toy exit? 13:55:59 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> for toy trains only 13:56:28 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> ahhh 13:56:31 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i think we need a better toy factory drop aswell 13:56:42 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> or entrance atleast 13:58:29 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> I'll try to fit the new toy exit, seems like a challenging but easier job to me then the battery exit 14:00:22 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> try leaving space for expansion of hub 11 14:00:36 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> it needs to get more lines in it connected up 14:00:54 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i'll leave toy exit alone now ;) 14:01:15 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it is not out of sync ;) 14:01:33 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> the southern path gets +1 tile at the split 14:02:12 <PublicServer> <Radicalimero> the southern has 14 + 3 and the north 13 + 4 14:02:42 <PublicServer> <Radicalimero> so i think it's out of sync 14:03:07 *** dashing has quit IRC 14:03:19 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> who keeps building pbs signals at joins? 14:04:06 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00010F65: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00010F65.png 14:04:28 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> toy exit causing jam at 11 :) 14:04:52 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh 14:04:57 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it merges to one line :S 14:05:03 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> probably because 11 > 6 isnt RR yet 14:05:14 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> should fix that first then 14:06:18 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> the jam is growing to slh 03 now 14:06:51 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it will fix itself soon 14:07:02 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> toy traffic is almost gone :o 14:07:03 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> yeah luckily :) 14:07:48 <PublicServer> *** Razmir has left the game (leaving) 14:08:09 *** Guest2253 is now known as Razmir 14:11:23 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> nice :) 14:12:05 <nighthawk_c_m> !password 14:12:05 <PublicServer> nighthawk_c_m: titter 14:12:21 <PublicServer> *** nighthawk_c_m joined the game 14:12:29 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> hmm, traffic from town drop can't reach south yet? or can it 14:12:38 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> west to south at 11 that is 14:13:05 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm 14:13:22 <Kommer> !password 14:13:22 <PublicServer> Kommer: titter 14:13:24 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> there's only 1 lane there from west to south, right :)? 14:13:25 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> we should be able to reconnect toy exit again 14:13:30 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh jam 14:13:34 <PublicServer> *** Kommer joined the game 14:14:09 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> all because of toy exit 14:15:23 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> hm, prios at the toy exit working correctly? 14:15:59 <PublicServer> <pugi> ruben, there is no use in making a pbs in front of bridgehead split and then one-way-signals in front of each bridge 14:16:07 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> we should possibly upgrade that hub11 line to 3 lanes 14:16:08 <nighthawk_c_m> Train limit reache? 14:16:22 <PublicServer> <pugi> either just use the pbs or use entry/exit signals or normal ones 14:16:23 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> pugi: where? 14:16:26 <nighthawk_c_m> I can't add trains to the stations that need transportation 14:16:29 <PublicServer> <Kommer> dunno. first the sweets pickup trains should be redirected 14:16:33 <PublicServer> <Kommer> they go to the wrong side 14:16:41 <PublicServer> <Kommer> to south instead of east 14:16:54 <PublicServer> <pugi> i guess you built that ;) 14:16:55 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> i didnt add the normal signs 14:17:00 <PublicServer> <pugi> ah okay 14:17:17 <PublicServer> <pugi> sorry then 14:17:27 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> no problem 14:17:32 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> toy area unjammed, town drop jammed instead :P 14:17:50 <PublicServer> <Kommer> indeed :) 14:19:08 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000BCDE: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000BCDE.png 14:19:34 *** Yexo has quit IRC 14:19:56 *** Yexo has joined #openttdcoop 14:20:13 <Chris_Booth> afternoon all 14:20:31 <PublicServer> <nighthawk_c_m> whats the limit on trains? 14:20:34 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> xeryusTC: !overflow onto this? 14:20:37 <PublicServer> <Radicalimero> 750 14:20:53 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> sure 14:20:59 <Chris_Booth> !password 14:20:59 <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: scoops 14:22:20 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> seems to somewhat solve it 14:23:02 <Devedse> !password 14:23:02 <PublicServer> Devedse: scoops 14:23:35 <PublicServer> *** Devedse joined the game 14:23:36 *** mo0069 has quit IRC 14:23:47 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> erm 14:23:55 <PublicServer> <Devedse> hey 14:23:56 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> why are those trains going through the hub now? 14:24:09 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> bah, jam beginning at 11 14:24:47 <PublicServer> *** pugi has left the game (leaving) 14:27:49 *** jondisti has joined #openttdcoop 14:29:38 <PublicServer> *** phatmatt has left the game (connection lost) 14:29:47 <phatmatt> !password 14:29:48 <PublicServer> phatmatt: scoops 14:30:02 <PublicServer> *** phatmatt joined the game 14:30:48 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> :o, somebody is working on hub 11? 14:30:52 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> while /me was awway 14:30:53 <PublicServer> *** phatmatt has left the game (connection lost) 14:31:53 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> also, whoever "fixed" my slh06 14:31:56 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> sort of broke it 14:32:14 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it was broken to start with 14:32:15 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> now trains wont merge to the open track anymore 14:32:21 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> well, your prios were 14:32:22 <PublicServer> *** headshot119 has left the game (connection lost) 14:32:24 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> they jammed the ML 14:32:37 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> well migt have been, but atleast tthey used to merge reasonably correctly to the empty line 14:32:54 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> now it just stands there, eendlessly not merging 14:33:03 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> even with a empty line aviable 14:33:36 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> should've used two ways :P 14:34:10 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001B798: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001B798.png 14:34:10 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> yeah, NOW it works 14:34:29 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> back 14:34:45 <PublicServer> *** theholyduck has joined spectators 14:34:49 <PublicServer> * theholyduck goes away again 14:35:17 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ffs 14:35:41 <phatmatt> !password 14:35:41 <PublicServer> phatmatt: steamy 14:35:43 <PublicServer> *** phatmatt has left the game (connection lost) 14:35:59 <PublicServer> *** phatmatt joined the game 14:36:18 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> lag :S 14:36:45 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ joined the game 14:36:58 <PublicServer> *** Chris has left the game (connection lost) 14:37:00 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> hello 14:37:13 <PublicServer> <Devedse> hi 14:37:41 <PublicServer> *** Radicalimero has left the game (connection lost) 14:39:09 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> hmm 14:39:15 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> less talking in signals, more in chat? 14:39:24 *** Radicalimero has quit IRC 14:39:27 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> someone broke something 14:39:34 <PublicServer> <Kommer> where? 14:39:42 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> dunno 14:39:50 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but trains only take one line at hub 11 :o 14:40:20 <PublicServer> <Devedse> can someone look at !devedse 14:40:29 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, i see 14:40:31 <PublicServer> <Devedse> maybe the trains waiting there should always go to the 14:40:36 <PublicServer> <Devedse> quieter lower lane 14:40:46 <Chris_Booth> !password 14:40:46 <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: steamy 14:40:49 <PublicServer> *** nighthawk_c_m has left the game (leaving) 14:41:07 <PublicServer> *** Chris joined the game 14:41:27 <PublicServer> *** Chris has left the game (leaving) 14:43:29 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm 14:43:33 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> new eternity merge jams :s 14:43:55 <jondisti> !password 14:43:55 <PublicServer> jondisti: steamy 14:44:03 <PublicServer> *** Chris joined the game 14:44:03 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> or it is something even further up the line 14:44:15 <PublicServer> *** Chris has left the game (leaving) 14:44:22 <PublicServer> *** jond1sti joined the game 14:45:03 <PublicServer> *** Chris joined the game 14:45:51 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> hmm, do the trains at 11 > 6 even need 3 lanes? 14:45:59 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> seems like 2 would be enough 14:48:41 <PublicServer> <Devedse> at a lot of RRRVVV the middle line is overused while the others are pretty much empty 14:49:12 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00009FE3: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00009FE3.png 14:49:14 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has left the game (leaving) 14:51:57 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> hmm 14:52:10 <PublicServer> <Devedse> mrruben you just build that bridge? 14:52:13 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> yeah 14:52:20 <PublicServer> <Devedse> down there 14:52:26 <PublicServer> <Devedse> the middle way is a bit over used 14:52:42 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> you mean the inner one to the south? 14:52:51 <PublicServer> <Devedse> inner 14:53:11 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> yup noticed that too, but I feel incapable of solving it :) 14:53:26 <PublicServer> <Devedse> what about 14:54:03 <PublicServer> <Devedse> check my sign: what about removing this rail 14:56:34 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> the lanes are way too packed at 11 :/ 14:56:49 <PublicServer> <Kommer> nah 14:56:51 <PublicServer> <Kommer> :P 14:57:00 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> at !CONNECT UP 14:57:13 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> the inner lane to the west needs it's own bridge 14:57:23 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> or... 14:57:24 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> hmm 14:57:42 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> brb, shower 14:59:30 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> afk for dinner 14:59:33 <PublicServer> <Devedse> bb 15:04:14 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00012FBB: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00012FBB.png 15:06:17 *** KyleS has joined #openttdcoop 15:06:49 *** elmz_ has joined #openttdcoop 15:07:27 <KyleS> !playercount 15:07:27 <PublicServer> KyleS: Number of players: 10 15:07:34 <KyleS> !password 15:07:34 <PublicServer> KyleS: plaque 15:08:00 <PublicServer> *** KyleS joined the game 15:08:47 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ joined the game 15:09:07 *** Doorslammer has joined #openttdcoop 15:09:08 <PublicServer> * SmatZ applied patch to have jammed vehicles marked in smallmap 15:09:25 *** thgergo has joined #openttdcoop 15:10:39 <ODM> so thats like the wole map? 15:12:26 <PublicServer> <KyleS> jams are looking better =) 15:12:32 <PublicServer> <KyleS> i.e. not as bad 15:12:39 *** elmz has quit IRC 15:12:54 <ODM> sweet 15:13:01 <PublicServer> <KyleS> and the LLRR looks more balanced 15:13:27 <PublicServer> <KyleS> yay \o/ 15:14:51 <PublicServer> *** 0DM joined the game 15:16:06 <PublicServer> <0DM> its a bit busy on hub 02 15:16:14 <PublicServer> <Chris> and 10 15:16:29 <PublicServer> <Kommer> jam yes 15:16:53 <PublicServer> <Chris> i like jam 15:16:57 <PublicServer> <0DM> on toast? 15:17:02 <PublicServer> <Chris> no scones 15:17:40 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, jam in my construction :o 15:17:50 <PublicServer> <KyleS> woah there is a LLLRRR track now :o 15:18:57 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> 2->9 needs an extra track 15:19:16 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00012CC4: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00012CC4.png 15:19:23 <PublicServer> * XeryusTC takes it upon hisself 15:21:06 <PublicServer> *** theholyduck has joined company #1 15:21:28 <PublicServer> <0DM> yay sweets is still doing fine^^ 15:21:56 <PublicServer> <baeda> back :) for my info.. may we add new primaries including trains yet or is it still too jammy around? 15:22:12 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> too jammy still 15:22:18 <PublicServer> <baeda> shame :< 15:24:14 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 15:25:30 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has left the game (connection lost) 15:25:32 <PublicServer> <0DM> i can stare at this for ages 15:25:45 <PublicServer> *** Kommer has left the game (leaving) 15:26:14 <PublicServer> <baeda> but nice work on the toy exit and the huge appendix it took at 11 o_O 15:26:24 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> :D 15:26:35 <PublicServer> <0DM> appendix lol 15:26:38 <PublicServer> <baeda> was it you wh? :D 15:26:42 <PublicServer> <0DM> arent they normally removed? 15:26:44 <PublicServer> <baeda> wh = eh 15:26:45 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> easier to solve a jam there than at hub 5 15:27:12 <PublicServer> <baeda> yea actually. really nice :D like that circle-style hub 11 got now hehe 15:27:31 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> that's the sign of a hacked hub :P 15:27:43 <Kommer> cya :) 15:27:46 <PublicServer> <0DM> ciao 15:27:53 <PublicServer> <baeda> but looks beautiful in it's uglyness actually.... 15:27:56 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> cya kommer 15:28:09 <PublicServer> <baeda> bye bye 15:28:09 *** Kommer has quit IRC 15:28:25 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> back 15:28:33 <PublicServer> <baeda> wb 15:29:46 <PublicServer> <0DM> ah stupid game, there was one candyfloss station near sweets, removed it for space 15:29:52 <PublicServer> <0DM> now 2 more forests grew there 15:29:58 <PublicServer> <KyleS> lol 15:30:09 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> we have magic bulldozer? 15:30:09 <PublicServer> <baeda> *slaps the game* 15:30:20 <PublicServer> <0DM> its taking the piss 15:30:23 <PublicServer> <0DM> no 15:30:23 <SmatZ> !rcon magic_bulldozer 15:30:23 <PublicServer> SmatZ: Magic bulldozer is disabled. 15:30:36 <SmatZ> Magic bulldozer is disabled. 15:32:20 <PublicServer> <0DM> i turned on sound for a bit 15:32:23 <PublicServer> <0DM> now i turned it off again:p 15:32:28 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> :D 15:32:40 <PublicServer> <baeda> nah you cant take sounds in toyland for long :D 15:32:47 <PublicServer> <0DM> for sure 15:33:05 <PublicServer> <baeda> especially that annoying toy factory... gnarf 15:33:11 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> hmm, need some help at !CONNECT UP 15:33:35 <PublicServer> <0DM> xeryus, looking at new fizzy drop... i can only think i am very uncreative stationwise:p 15:33:38 <leg3nd> !password 15:33:38 <PublicServer> leg3nd: belted 15:34:03 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> you are 15:34:18 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001AD9F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001AD9F.png 15:34:37 <PublicServer> *** leg3nd has left the game (connection lost) 15:34:44 <PublicServer> <0DM> heh 15:34:52 <leg3nd> !password 15:34:53 <PublicServer> leg3nd: deluxe 15:35:10 <PublicServer> *** leg3nd joined the game 15:35:13 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> whoops 15:35:35 <PublicServer> *** 0DM has left the game (leaving) 15:36:33 <PublicServer> *** leg3nd has left the game (desync error) 15:36:38 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> wtf :o 15:36:40 <PublicServer> <Chris> ok i put a 3rd line from hub 06 - hub 10 15:36:46 <PublicServer> *** leg3nd joined the game 15:37:49 <PublicServer> <Chris> now HUB 08 is jam tastict 15:38:22 <planetmaker> grrr 15:38:32 <planetmaker> and we don't have desync debugging here :-( 15:38:51 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 15:39:00 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> m-m-m-monster jam! 15:39:18 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> heb 2 has LRR to the east now though :D 15:39:54 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hub even 15:40:07 <planetmaker> !rcon debug_level 15:40:07 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Current debug-level: 'ai=0, driver=0, grf=0, map=0, misc=0, net=0, sprite=0, oldloader=0, npf=0, yapf=0, freetype=0, sl=0, gamelog=0, desync=0, console=0' 15:40:37 <planetmaker> !playercount 15:40:37 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Number of players: 11 15:40:51 <planetmaker> !revision 15:40:51 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Game version is r19594 15:41:07 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> lol 15:41:18 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> who made !who changed this 15:41:20 <Ammler> hmm, the new debug output isn't in 15:41:30 <planetmaker> yeah 15:41:33 <planetmaker> I noticed 15:41:49 <Ammler> we could backport it maybe? 15:41:54 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> the bridges cross a line which join it later on xD 15:41:58 <planetmaker> Hm... is it in the current nightly r19611? 15:42:08 <Ammler> yes, that would work too 15:46:17 <PublicServer> <Chris> so many desynced lanes 15:46:20 <PublicServer> <Chris> gggr 15:46:49 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> anybody wanna help me with hub 11? 15:47:00 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> so little thinking for yourself :P 15:47:02 <PublicServer> <Chris> what you doing to it? 15:47:05 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 15:47:16 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> trying to make south to east two lanes 15:47:44 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> or 15:47:50 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> hmm, not needed I guess? 15:48:02 <PublicServer> <Chris> its not needed realy 15:48:24 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> anyhow, feeding time 15:48:38 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 15:49:17 <PublicServer> *** Chris has changed his/her name to Chris Booth 15:49:20 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00012AC4: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00012AC4.png 15:49:33 <Ammler> planetmaker: server updated... 15:49:39 *** elmz has joined #openttdcoop 15:49:47 <planetmaker> folks, server will go down and come back updated to r19611 15:49:49 <Ammler> needs restart, please do that yourself :-P 15:49:52 <planetmaker> sorry for the inconvenience 15:50:09 <planetmaker> !rcon save desync_start1 15:50:10 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Saving map... 15:50:10 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Map successfully saved to desync_start1.sav 15:50:19 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> why was it updated? 15:50:19 <planetmaker> !rcon exit 15:50:21 <PublicServer> Server has exited 15:50:22 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 15:50:32 <KyleS> !dl win32 15:50:43 <mrruben5> bah, so I have to compile yet AGIN -.- 15:50:49 <Ammler> :-D 15:50:52 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 15:50:52 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 15:50:52 <PublicServer> Loading default savegame 15:50:52 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 15:50:52 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #181 (r19611) | STAGE: building | http://openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | Welcome to the depths of insanity" 15:51:03 <Ammler> poor osx guy :-P 15:51:04 <Chris_Booth> mrruben5: why? 15:51:06 <KyleS> !dl win32 15:51:06 <PublicServer> KyleS: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19611/openttd-trunk-r19611-windows-win32.zip 15:51:09 <Chris_Booth> aaah OSx 15:51:10 <planetmaker> !rcon debug_level desync=3 15:51:15 <planetmaker> !rcon debug_level 15:51:15 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Current debug-level: 'ai=0, driver=0, grf=0, map=0, misc=0, net=0, sprite=0, oldloader=0, npf=0, yapf=0, freetype=0, sl=0, gamelog=0, desync=3, console=0' 15:51:18 <mrruben5> chris_booth:osx 15:51:22 <planetmaker> !rcon save debug_start1 15:51:23 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Saving map... 15:51:23 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Map successfully saved to debug_start1.sav 15:51:30 <planetmaker> !rcon load debug_start1.sav 15:51:31 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 15:51:36 <planetmaker> so :-) 15:51:40 <planetmaker> Feat done. 15:51:47 <Chris_Booth> !password 15:51:47 <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: zanies 15:51:47 <planetmaker> Reason for update and restart: bug hunting 15:52:20 <Chris_Booth> planetmaker / Ammler can you make PZ the same nightly please? 15:52:24 <Chris_Booth> it is very old now 15:52:25 <nighthawk_c_m> something special we should keep our eyes on? 15:52:40 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 15:53:01 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 15:53:01 <PublicServer> *** KyleS joined the game 15:54:50 <mrruben5> planetmaker: was it you that had instruction on the zlo lib? 15:54:56 <mrruben5> instructions* 15:55:12 <planetmaker> mrruben5, CFLAGS=-isystem/opt/local/include 15:55:39 <mrruben5> you said something about a bash profile 15:55:58 <planetmaker> Add that to your bash.profile 15:56:24 *** elmz_ has quit IRC 15:56:54 *** heffer has joined #openttdcoop 15:56:56 <planetmaker> ~/.bash_profile rather 15:57:05 <mrruben5> thanks 15:57:09 <planetmaker> export CFLAGS="-isystem/opt/local/include ${CFLAGS}" 15:59:45 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop 15:59:52 <mrruben5> hmm, still getting that error :S even when restarting terminal 15:59:55 <mrruben5> http://pastebin.com/3yVvjGzU 16:00:23 <theholyduck> !dl win64 16:00:23 <PublicServer> theholyduck: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19611/openttd-trunk-r19611-windows-win64.zip 16:00:55 <planetmaker> mrruben5, yes, it only works on a new xterm 16:01:03 <planetmaker> in an already opened one you need to run 16:01:11 <planetmaker> source ~/.bash_profile 16:01:16 <planetmaker> in order to make it work 16:01:24 <mrruben5> I stopped then restarted it 16:01:37 <planetmaker> the xterm window itself 16:02:12 <theholyduck> !password 16:02:12 <PublicServer> theholyduck: zanies 16:02:20 <theholyduck> so 16:02:21 <theholyduck> why did we do this? 16:02:22 <PublicServer> *** theholyduck joined the game 16:02:33 <theholyduck> as in, any particular reasons? 16:03:04 <planetmaker> !rcon autosave 16:03:05 <PublicServer> planetmaker: ERROR: command not found 16:03:09 <planetmaker> !rcon set autosave 16:03:09 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Current value for 'autosave' is: '1' (min: 0, max: 4) 16:03:12 <planetmaker> !rcon set autosave 0 16:03:26 <Seberoth> hi 16:03:41 <PublicServer> <KyleS> uh 16:03:46 <PublicServer> <KyleS> is this an earlier saved game? 16:03:52 <planetmaker> no, not really 16:03:58 <mrruben5> :S 16:04:01 <PublicServer> <KyleS> quit a bit is different 16:04:06 <PublicServer> <KyleS> than is was before the reset 16:04:13 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> how so KyleS? 16:04:13 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> yeah 16:04:19 <PublicServer> <KyleS> St. Pitport Woods 16:04:20 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> alot of LL_RR 16:04:21 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> is gone 16:04:24 <PublicServer> <KyleS> was connected to the north 16:04:27 <planetmaker> hm... 16:04:31 <PublicServer> <KyleS> and south of it was a LLLRRR line 16:04:32 <planetmaker> that's bad 16:04:34 <PublicServer> <KyleS> which is now a LLRR line 16:04:36 <planetmaker> hold on 16:04:49 <mrruben5> still getting that lzo error, even after restarting terminal and doing the source command in terminal 16:04:50 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> yeah, there was LLRR from hub10 16:04:51 <mrruben5> http://pastebin.com/vg3Bwdfn 16:04:54 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> to hub 11 16:05:01 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> with new sidelines to it 16:05:04 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> and through hub 6 16:05:05 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> some of hub 10 was LL_RRR 16:05:06 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> all gone 16:05:19 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> this is an old game 16:05:28 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> quite alot of shit missing yeah 16:05:34 <planetmaker> !rcon load debug_start1.sav 16:05:39 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 16:05:45 <KyleS> !password 16:05:45 <PublicServer> KyleS: zanies 16:05:49 <planetmaker> better? 16:05:55 <PublicServer> *** theholyduck joined the game 16:06:00 <planetmaker> this should be at most 10 minutes old 16:06:00 <KyleS> !password 16:06:00 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> still wrong 16:06:01 <PublicServer> KyleS: ailing 16:06:08 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> its way more than 10 minutes 16:06:11 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> more like 8 hours 16:06:15 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 16:06:15 <PublicServer> *** KyleS joined the game 16:06:17 <Chris_Booth> !password 16:06:17 <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: ailing 16:06:35 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> yeah, i'd say atleast 8 hours out of date 16:06:37 <nighthawk_c_m> I had a different one 3 hours ago. 16:06:40 <KyleS> this is out of date 16:07:02 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> yeah, its out of date by alot 16:07:08 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 16:07:10 <mrruben5> bah, I fail. I need to run .configure again ofc 16:07:30 <planetmaker> !rcon load autosave/autosave10.sav 16:07:30 <PublicServer> planetmaker: autosave/autosave10.sav: No such file or directory. 16:07:31 <theholyduck> all the stuff i've been building since i came home at about 1400? 16:07:33 <theholyduck> is gone 16:07:36 <planetmaker> !rcon load save/autosave/autosave10.sav 16:07:36 <PublicServer> planetmaker: save/autosave/autosave10.sav: No such file or directory. 16:07:40 <planetmaker> !rcon pwd 16:07:40 <PublicServer> planetmaker: /home/openttd/svn-public/autopilot/save/ 16:07:41 <theholyduck> so thats atleast 4 hours gone 16:07:45 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> still old 16:07:46 <theholyduck> not to mention its diffrent from when i joined :P 16:07:48 <planetmaker> !rcon load ./autosave/autosave10.sav 16:07:48 <PublicServer> planetmaker: ./autosave/autosave10.sav: No such file or directory. 16:07:53 <planetmaker> !rcon cd autosave 16:07:58 <planetmaker> !rcon load autosave10.sav 16:07:58 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 16:08:05 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 16:08:07 <KyleS> !password 16:08:07 <PublicServer> KyleS: ailing 16:08:12 <planetmaker> more current? 16:08:12 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (connection lost) 16:08:30 <KyleS> 1 client in front of me is taking forever D: lol 16:08:30 <PublicServer> *** theholyduck joined the game 16:08:32 <theholyduck> a bit yeah 16:08:34 <XeryusTC> planetmaker: go onto the server ls -l :P 16:08:47 <theholyduck> actually 16:08:51 <theholyduck> this seems pretty current 16:08:55 <PublicServer> *** KyleS has left the game (connection lost) 16:08:56 <planetmaker> XeryusTC, I AM on the server. This save is from 17:53 16:09:09 <XeryusTC> hmm, that's still quite old 16:09:12 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 16:09:13 <planetmaker> But the one which was claimed old from 17:57 16:09:15 <PublicServer> *** KyleS joined the game 16:09:16 <planetmaker> so I don't get it. 16:09:18 <XeryusTC> doesnt it save every month? 16:09:26 <planetmaker> it saves every 2nd minute 16:09:28 <theholyduck> XeryusTC, huh, well this one is still alot more up to date 16:09:28 <KyleS> well at least 16:09:36 <KyleS> Hub 10---Hub 08 is LLLRRR 16:09:48 <theholyduck> yeah, this is pretty close to last time i checked 16:09:58 <ODM> autosave12 seems best i think 16:10:03 <XeryusTC> i lost some minor changes at hub2 16:10:05 <XeryusTC> that's all 16:10:06 <planetmaker> !rcon load autosave12.sav 16:10:07 <KyleS> and the sweets factory is back to normal 16:10:07 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 16:10:12 <planetmaker> there we go 16:10:17 <Ammler> planetmaker: you made a save before exit 16:10:25 <KyleS> chris you take forever to load :p 16:10:26 <theholyduck> !password 16:10:26 <PublicServer> theholyduck: ailing 16:10:26 <planetmaker> yes. And people claim it was old... 16:10:35 <Chris_Booth> KyleS: i do 16:10:36 <planetmaker> I don't care then ;-) 16:10:38 <theholyduck> planetmaker, it WAS old 16:10:43 <theholyduck> planetmaker, massivly old 16:10:48 <Ammler> :-) 16:10:49 <theholyduck> its not just claiming, it was truth 16:10:52 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 16:10:52 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 16:10:55 <PublicServer> *** theholyduck joined the game 16:10:55 <KyleS> ^ 16:10:58 <Ammler> hmm 16:10:59 <XeryusTC> this is more recent 16:11:04 <PublicServer> *** KyleS joined the game 16:11:11 <Ammler> how should that be possilbe? 16:11:19 <XeryusTC> actually, this is how i left it before i had dinner 16:11:43 <theholyduck> yeah, this is how it was last time i looked awell 16:11:43 <Ammler> planetmaker: maybe you loaded game.sav instead your desync one? 16:11:46 <planetmaker> Ammler, according to the backlog of this channel: not 16:11:55 <planetmaker> hm... but maybe. 16:12:01 <planetmaker> when re-starting the server. 16:12:03 <XeryusTC> but are loads of people desyncing? 16:12:06 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has joined company #1 16:12:11 <planetmaker> XeryusTC, yes 16:12:21 <theholyduck> i didnt notice any desync problems 16:12:21 <XeryusTC> i did set gradual_loading to 0, which is not a network safe setting anymore it seems 16:12:36 <XeryusTC> i've only seen leg3nd desyncing so far 16:12:46 *** Seberoth_ has joined #openttdcoop 16:12:48 <planetmaker> which is not the 1st 16:12:52 <leg3nd> What ? 16:13:02 <leg3nd> im making desync ? 16:13:15 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no leg3nd 16:13:16 <planetmaker> no, you don't. You experience it. 16:13:23 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 16:13:26 <planetmaker> which is a programme bug and not your fault 16:13:30 <avdg> hi 16:13:33 <avdg> !players 16:13:35 <PublicServer> avdg: Client 30 (Orange) is XeryusTC, in company 1 (Jamming United) 16:13:35 <PublicServer> avdg: Client 27 (Orange) is Chris Booth, in company 1 (Jamming United) 16:13:35 <PublicServer> avdg: Client 32 (Orange) is theholyduck, in company 1 (Jamming United) 16:13:35 <PublicServer> avdg: Client 29 is KyleS, a spectator 16:13:45 <avdg> :) nice company nick 16:14:01 <leg3nd> Arr okay yeah i did have decync. but might be because girlfriend is downloading. 16:14:03 <theholyduck> avdg, well, the jamming problem seems to be comming under controll 16:14:05 <leg3nd> so have no clue. 16:14:09 <PublicServer> <KyleS> how do i join the company...somehow i got logged in as an observer 16:14:19 <avdg> nice 16:14:24 <planetmaker> leg3nd, then you'd loose connection. But not desync 16:14:28 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 16:14:31 <leg3nd> okay. 16:14:41 <theholyduck> KyleS, just open the company details window 16:14:47 <theholyduck> and hit join this company 16:14:48 <planetmaker> A common mistake to use the word "desync" synonymous for "loose connection" 16:14:50 <PublicServer> <KyleS> ok thx 16:14:54 <PublicServer> *** KyleS has joined company #1 16:14:57 <planetmaker> One is a bug, the other common connection issue 16:15:16 <theholyduck> desync = client and server having a diffrent idea about what the reality is 16:15:17 <theholyduck> right? 16:15:24 <planetmaker> yes 16:15:41 <leg3nd> :> 16:15:44 *** Seberoth_ is now known as Seberoth 16:15:47 <planetmaker> and now: time for BBQ :-) Catch you later 16:16:02 <leg3nd> have to go make food also :> 16:16:18 <mrruben5> planetmaker: enjoy! 16:16:36 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (leaving) 16:16:49 <mrruben5> !password 16:16:49 <PublicServer> mrruben5: ailing 16:16:56 <PublicServer> *** MrRuben joined the game 16:17:38 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 16:26:01 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> split before join chaos :o 16:29:13 <V453000> planetmaker: BBQ is some special kind of intensely insane BBH? :P 16:30:09 <Ammler> german goulash :-P 16:30:13 <V453000> heh 16:30:22 <V453000> I had goulash today for lunch :PPP 16:30:53 *** pugi has quit IRC 16:30:54 <ODM> darn you 16:31:14 <V453000> :) 16:32:08 <PublicServer> <KyleS> i worked out Hub 08 a bit 16:32:11 <PublicServer> <KyleS> only hackily tho ;/ 16:32:35 <PublicServer> <KyleS> the outside E->W line wasn't being used and the middle line was getting jammed at the hub 16:32:55 <PublicServer> <KyleS> so i gave the middle line a chance to split off to the outer line if there was a potential jam 16:33:04 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> when did we hit 750 trains? 16:33:08 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> as in, whos adding moar? 16:35:41 *** elmz_ has joined #openttdcoop 16:37:25 *** devilsadvocate_ has joined #openttdcoop 16:37:47 *** devilsadvocate has quit IRC 16:38:21 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> network is holding up alright? 16:38:51 <PublicServer> *** KyleS has left the game (connection lost) 16:38:54 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> hub 08 cpuld use some tweaking maybe 16:39:02 <KyleS> !password 16:39:02 <PublicServer> KyleS: serums 16:39:05 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> west to south 16:39:24 <PublicServer> *** KyleS joined the game 16:40:05 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> the slopes to the south are slowing trains there 16:40:11 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> if they need to stop 16:41:23 *** VictorOfSweden has joined #openttdcoop 16:42:49 *** elmz has quit IRC 16:44:53 <avdg> @version 16:44:54 <Webster> avdg: The current (running) version of this Supybot is 0.83.4.1. The newest version available online is 0.83.4.1. 16:45:00 <avdg> !version 16:45:00 <PublicServer> avdg: Autopilot AP+ 3.0 Beta (r740:742M) 16:45:06 <avdg> openttd? 16:45:13 <avdg> !server 16:45:29 <avdg> hmm lets update 16:45:45 <mrruben5> avdg: r19611 16:46:11 <avdg> ty, I figure it already out :p 16:46:32 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> you're going to be amazed by the network changes though 16:46:41 <avdg> why the upgrade? 16:47:19 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> server upgrade you mean? 16:47:23 <dihedral> yeah! what happened to 'never change a running system' :-P 16:47:36 <PublicServer> *** tneo joined the game 16:47:38 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> xeryustc turned off gradual loading, causing desync for some people 16:47:53 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> at least that's from what I udnerstood 16:48:29 <dihedral> tneo?? 16:48:31 <dihedral> hey sir 16:48:33 <dihedral> long time no see 16:49:06 <dihedral> laslog 16:49:08 <dihedral> opes 16:50:34 <phatmatt> !password 16:50:34 <PublicServer> phatmatt: serums 16:50:44 <PublicServer> *** phatmatt joined the game 16:51:45 <tneo> hey dihedral 16:51:50 <dihedral> :-) 16:51:51 <tneo> how have you been? 16:52:01 <dihedral> hmmm.... well.... yeah 16:52:04 <dihedral> ok ish 16:52:15 <dihedral> things could be better at time :-P 16:52:19 <SmatZ> oh version upgrade :) 16:52:20 <dihedral> other than that - good 16:52:23 <Ammler> avdg: because a lazy guy doesn't run AutoNightly anymore, we need to be the guinea pigs 16:52:24 <dihedral> hello SmatZ 16:52:26 <SmatZ> hello dihedral 16:52:33 <avdg> !password 16:52:34 <PublicServer> *** phatmatt has left the game (connection lost) 16:52:34 <PublicServer> avdg: busily 16:52:35 <PublicServer> <KyleS> hey can anyone look at Hub 08? 16:52:37 <dihedral> Ammler: oi :-P 16:52:42 <tneo> good to see you here again though dihedral :-) 16:52:43 <PublicServer> *** avdg joined the game 16:52:50 <Ammler> :-) 16:52:54 <PublicServer> <KyleS> i did lots of hacks..if anyone can look at it and tell me if i am way off 16:52:54 <dihedral> nofair 16:52:56 <PublicServer> <KyleS> that would be nice 16:53:04 <PublicServer> <avdg> ooo my switch is still in 16:53:04 <Ammler> indeed :-$ sorry 16:53:12 <avdg> !screen 16:53:13 <dihedral> KyleS: where? 16:53:26 <PublicServer> <KyleS> Hub 08 16:53:34 <dihedral> oh - that kind of 'hacks' 16:53:35 <dihedral> :-D 16:53:42 <dihedral> never mind then :-P 16:53:43 <PublicServer> <KyleS> :> 16:54:02 * dihedral is off to band practice... 16:54:05 <Ammler> what happen with webcam? 16:54:21 <Ammler> dihedral: make a midi :-P 16:55:10 <Ammler> !screen 16:55:33 <PublicServer> *** phatmatt joined the game 16:56:33 <Ammler> !screen 16:56:36 <PublicServer> *** Ammler made screenshot at 00024703: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00024703.png 16:56:36 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> poor mountain at hub 02 16:56:41 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> no trees on it :P 16:56:54 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ joined the game 16:56:57 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> hello cojammers 16:57:46 <Ammler> :-D 16:58:11 <Ammler> Hello EvilmatZ 16:58:15 <PublicServer> * MrRuben adds lots of trees to hub 02 16:58:19 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :) 16:58:22 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> brb 16:58:23 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has left the game (leaving) 16:58:42 <Ammler> installing opengfx... 16:58:53 <PublicServer> <KyleS> so laggy 16:58:57 <PublicServer> <KyleS> ughhh 16:59:32 <PublicServer> <avdg> whats eating the speed? 16:59:48 <PublicServer> <KyleS> mb the zillion trains? :>P 16:59:52 <Ammler> !tell avdg about dl autostart 16:59:52 <PublicServer> avdg: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Autostart 17:00:04 <PublicServer> <avdg> trains aren't the problem, so far I know 17:00:12 <Ammler> might also be something for you ruben ^ 17:00:21 <PublicServer> <avdg> previous game, 3k trains, still no lagg here at small zoom lvl 17:00:32 <PublicServer> <KyleS> or maybe my computer 17:00:36 <PublicServer> <KyleS> i know i couldn't run last game 17:00:36 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> ammler: I already use opengfx :) 17:00:43 <PublicServer> <KyleS> the server dc'd me because of too low frame rate 17:00:43 <Ammler> I meant autostart 17:01:04 <PublicServer> *** theholyduck has left the game (connection lost) 17:01:11 <mrruben5> server oh 17:01:25 <mrruben5> thanks :) 17:01:28 <mrruben5> bookmarked 17:01:56 <Ammler> also included client patch pack :-) 17:02:11 <PublicServer> <tneo> lots of signal errors 17:02:41 <Ammler> http://dev.openttdcoop.org:81/projects/clientpatches/wiki 17:03:00 *** Lelle has joined #openttdcoop 17:03:13 <PublicServer> *** Amm1er joined the game 17:03:53 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> guys, what is important if you make double bridge with pbs? 17:04:39 <mrruben5> ammler: love the rail station selection :P 17:05:05 <Ammler> yes, that is my main reason for the pack 17:05:37 *** elmz has joined #openttdcoop 17:05:54 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002387A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002387A.png 17:07:25 <PublicServer> *** Amm1er has left the game (connection lost) 17:07:28 <Ammler> I guess, I have the ubuntu audio bug 17:07:48 <mrruben5> can't start binary? 17:07:54 <mrruben5> oh wait need to config 17:08:38 <Ammler> if you need changes for mac osx, please tell 17:08:46 <Ammler> so I can keep the script up2date 17:08:50 <PublicServer> *** tneo has left the game (connection lost) 17:08:54 *** theholyduck has quit IRC 17:09:08 <PublicServer> *** Intexon joined the game 17:09:10 <avdg> uh anyone asked about macs? 17:10:11 <PublicServer> *** Amm1er joined the game 17:10:12 <mrruben5> New client is going to be installed. 17:10:12 <mrruben5> no support for macosx-intel 17:10:15 <mrruben5> ?? 17:10:39 <Ammler> you should use svn 17:10:46 <mrruben5> aha 17:10:52 <Ammler> there is no osx nightly :-P 17:10:59 <mrruben5> I am a fool :P 17:11:01 <Devedse> !password 17:11:01 <PublicServer> Devedse: gusher 17:11:11 <PublicServer> *** Devedse joined the game 17:11:21 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ joined the game 17:11:23 <PublicServer> <Devedse> hello :) 17:11:49 * mrruben5 hopes that autostarter does not compile every time it is run 17:11:57 <mrruben5> one would assume so 17:11:58 <Ammler> mrruben5: also you might need to edit: CONFIGUREARGS="" 17:12:14 <Ammler> mrruben5: you think, it should? :-P 17:12:34 <mrruben5> ammler: I have planetmakers bash_profile for zlo 17:12:45 *** elmz_ has quit IRC 17:13:38 <PublicServer> *** MrRuben has left the game (leaving) 17:14:33 * mrruben5 wonders about the number of files compiled at the same time 17:14:50 <PublicServer> <KyleS> i'm off for now 17:14:56 <PublicServer> <KyleS> later 17:14:59 <PublicServer> *** KyleS has left the game (leaving) 17:15:00 <PublicServer> <Devedse> bye 17:15:01 <mrruben5> laters 17:15:01 *** KyleS has left #openttdcoop 17:15:35 <Ammler> [19:14] * mrruben5 wonders about the number of files compiled at the same time <-- make -j 17:15:52 <Ammler> usually <cores>+1 17:15:58 <mrruben5> aye but at what number, guessing 2 since I have dual core 17:16:14 <Ammler> then 3 :-) 17:16:39 <PublicServer> * Devedse still doesn't understand why there's candy on tree's :o 17:17:28 <mrruben5> because it is yummie 17:17:34 <PublicServer> <Devedse> yum yum 17:18:02 <mrruben5> heck I don't even know the english translation for the dutch word "drop" 17:18:10 <PublicServer> <Devedse> me neither 17:18:11 <mrruben5> !password 17:18:12 <PublicServer> mrruben5: gusher 17:18:19 <PublicServer> *** MrRuben joined the game 17:18:25 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> lol it auto joins as well? 17:18:54 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> MrRuben: licorish 17:19:18 <gr00vy> !password 17:19:18 <PublicServer> gr00vy: gusher 17:20:04 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> weird word 17:20:19 <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm howmany penalty has a station? 17:20:34 <PublicServer> *** gr00vaLisTic joined the game 17:20:56 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00024474: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00024474.png 17:21:39 <PublicServer> *** Amm1er has left the game (connection lost) 17:22:08 <SmatZ> !trains 850 17:22:09 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has set max_trains to 850 17:22:56 <PublicServer> *** gr00vaLisTic has left the game (leaving) 17:23:15 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> amm1er: does the sign list filter have regex support? 17:23:23 <PublicServer> <avdg> jam? 17:23:32 <PublicServer> <avdg> hub 2 17:24:35 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm, i see nothing 17:24:49 <PublicServer> <Devedse> where? 17:25:16 <Ammler> mrruben5: no idea :-) 17:25:28 <Ammler> the wiki page does link to the project threads 17:25:34 <mrruben5> autostart script 17:25:43 <mrruben5> aha 17:26:19 <mrruben5> hmm, how can I let it run from a bundle 17:26:21 <mrruben5> ? 17:27:20 <Ammler> why do you need? 17:28:14 <mrruben5> no idea, but tnow there's an ugly icon on my dock! 17:28:21 <mrruben5> it's osx, remember :P 17:28:32 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (connection lost) 17:28:40 <PublicServer> *** MrRuben has left the game (leaving) 17:30:27 <mrruben5> I also noticed you have macosx-intel and -powerpc in the config, but not universal :) 17:30:34 <mrruben5> !password 17:30:34 <PublicServer> mrruben5: nudged 17:30:39 *** Mitcian has quit IRC 17:30:41 <PublicServer> *** MrRuben joined the game 17:31:15 <PublicServer> <Devedse> do we actually still have jams :O 17:31:18 <PublicServer> <Devedse> ? 17:31:20 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> nope 17:31:52 <PublicServer> <Devedse> win :) 17:33:24 <gr00vy> !password 17:33:24 <PublicServer> gr00vy: nudged 17:34:20 <PublicServer> *** Robi-Wan joined the game 17:35:08 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has left the game (connection lost) 17:35:59 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003BBA5: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003BBA5.png 17:38:22 <gr00vy> !password 17:38:22 <PublicServer> gr00vy: penned 17:38:36 <PublicServer> *** gr00vaLisTic joined the game 17:42:23 *** Vitus has joined #openttdcoop 17:42:28 <Vitus> !password 17:42:28 <PublicServer> Vitus: penned 17:43:06 <PublicServer> *** Robi-Wan has left the game (leaving) 17:43:07 <PublicServer> *** gr00vaLisTic has left the game (leaving) 17:43:18 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> testing autojoin :) 17:43:23 <PublicServer> *** MrRuben has left the game (leaving) 17:43:34 <PublicServer> *** MrRuben joined the game 17:43:36 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> :D 17:43:45 <PublicServer> <Devedse> also autoget password? 17:44:20 <nighthawk_c_m> !password 17:44:20 <PublicServer> nighthawk_c_m: penned 17:44:29 <PublicServer> *** nighthawk_c_m joined the game 17:44:43 <PublicServer> *** Vitus joined the game 17:45:26 <Ammler> if someone else is interested in autojoin nick, ping me... 17:45:36 <Ammler> key* 17:49:26 <nighthawk_c_m> whats there to do in the network at the moment? 17:49:44 <PublicServer> <avdg> donno, I'm watching too 17:49:51 <PublicServer> <Devedse> we can only hope for sudden jams :( 17:50:24 <PublicServer> <avdg> this map is a hell for me now, due lack of space and high raised traffic 17:51:01 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00019ED6: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00019ED6.png 17:52:09 <PublicServer> <avdg> zoom out at bear pickup :p 17:52:14 <PublicServer> <avdg> its all railed 17:52:36 <PublicServer> <avdg> everything till the town drop 17:52:41 <hylje> bear pickup 17:52:52 <PublicServer> <avdg> *beer 17:52:56 <V453000> duh 17:52:59 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hmm... bears 17:53:03 <PublicServer> <avdg> :) 17:53:10 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> :D:D I can go to the latest building operation with this client patch 17:53:35 <nighthawk_c_m> what do you mean Ruben? 17:53:47 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> http://dev.openttdcoop.org:81/projects/clientpatches/wiki 17:54:12 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Think I'll just spam some rails so you won't get anything useful out of it :D 17:54:20 <nighthawk_c_m> I have no freaking idea how to incorporate a patch into the actual client 17:54:37 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> nighthawk_c_m: with the autostarter from ammler 17:54:55 <nighthawk_c_m> thats all I need, the autostarter? 17:55:20 *** De_Ghosty has quit IRC 17:55:46 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> yup: see http://dev.openttdcoop.org:81/projects/clientpatches/wiki 17:56:04 *** Doorslammer has quit IRC 17:56:29 <Devedse> i wish my !@#$ irc programm would copy links 17:57:25 <nighthawk_c_m> Dunno what you mean Ruben 17:58:14 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> oh wait, didnt actually copy new link 17:58:17 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Autostart 17:58:52 <Ammler> that is a very bit outdated ^ 17:59:01 <nighthawk_c_m> linux :-/ 17:59:05 <Ammler> but well, basically it works. 17:59:11 <nighthawk_c_m> useless for me as i run win32 17:59:21 <Ammler> nighthawk_c_m: should work with cygwin 17:59:30 <Ammler> at least, it did once 17:59:38 <nighthawk_c_m> cygwin? 17:59:53 *** Kommer has joined #openttdcoop 17:59:56 <Kommer> !password 17:59:56 <PublicServer> Kommer: lorded 18:00:02 <PublicServer> *** Kommer joined the game 18:00:08 <Ammler> \o/ Kommer 18:00:10 <Ammler> :-) 18:00:13 <PublicServer> <Kommer> hmm, why an update to the PS? 18:00:15 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> yes, but cygwin also needs curl 18:00:17 <Kommer> heya Ammler :) 18:00:23 <Kommer> nice to see you. How are you? 18:00:40 <Ammler> thanks, so lala, but how are you? 18:01:05 <Kommer> very fine. started installing ottd since 1.0.0. saw it on a website and thought, what the heck :) 18:01:28 <Kommer> been busy a lot but now in the evenings I have sometimes some spare hours. and what else to do than to play ottd :P 18:01:30 <Ammler> hmm, I get the feeling your aren't "our" Kommer :-D 18:01:36 <PublicServer> *** Progman joined the game 18:01:40 <Kommer> lol, :) 18:01:44 <Kommer> why? :) 18:01:44 <Ammler> @users 18:01:49 <Kommer> have been busy a lot 18:02:02 <Kommer> very hard working. new house, renovating it and more 18:02:15 <Ammler> oh, then you are :-D 18:02:36 <nighthawk_c_m> http://users.tt-forums.net/ottdau/ - is that the updater you ment? 18:02:37 <Kommer> but hows life here? 18:03:08 <Ammler> except 1.0.0 release, not much changed... 18:03:22 <Kommer> saw on the website that there are a lot of members 18:03:31 <Kommer> nice to see that it is still alive :) 18:03:58 <PublicServer> *** nighthawk_c_m has left the game (leaving) 18:04:03 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> nighthawk_c_m: I don't think that will work for OTTDcoop 18:04:15 <Ammler> we won't die :-P 18:04:18 <Kommer> :) 18:04:21 <Kommer> thought so :) 18:04:24 <nighthawk_c_m> well, openttd coop is explicitly mentioned 18:04:31 <Kommer> didnt have the thought that when I was gone that everything stopped :P 18:04:33 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> ah 18:04:33 <V453000> more alive than ever :P 18:04:48 <Ammler> !users 18:04:48 <PublicServer> Ammler: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Community:Members 18:04:50 <Kommer> and loads of ppl who I dont know and probably dont know me :P 18:04:50 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> then it might work, not really interested in microsoft stuff 18:06:03 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000033DB: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000033DB.png 18:07:07 <Ammler> oh, you are already moved to inactive... 18:07:12 <Ammler> should fix that 18:07:24 <Kommer> ow no problem :) dont have xs to anything I think 18:07:34 <Kommer> jus tlike to play and nice to have some chat with you guys :) 18:07:41 <Ammler> no need 18:07:48 <PublicServer> *** Progman has left the game (leaving) 18:08:02 <Kommer> dont even have any pw etc anymore. laptop reinstall so everything is gone (also from my mind) 18:08:32 <Kommer> hmm nickserv still knows me, lol 18:08:46 <Ammler> Kommer: you should join other universe 18:09:29 <Kommer> yepp but you need to give me some info :) by pm maybe? 18:10:01 *** Kommer has left #openttdcoop 18:10:06 *** Kommer has joined #openttdcoop 18:10:06 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Kommer 18:10:15 <Kommer> lol, it still knows me. nice to see :) 18:10:33 <nighthawk_c_m> ok, so can anyone explain to me how to patch the game with one of the extra patches? 18:11:11 <mrruben5> http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=navclient&gfns=1&q=patching+ottd 18:11:12 <Webster> Title: patching ottd - Google Search (at www.google.com) 18:11:33 <mrruben5> but basicly 18:11:42 <mrruben5> you need to checkout the svn source 18:11:47 <mrruben5> then apply the patches 18:11:49 <mrruben5> then compile 18:12:21 <PublicServer> <Devedse> they should implement some kind of scripting language :) 18:12:43 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> scripting language to do what? 18:12:46 <PublicServer> *** Progman joined the game 18:12:51 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> add patches? 18:12:56 <PublicServer> <Devedse> yea probably 18:13:03 <nighthawk_c_m> oh right - great, what a hassle ... I tried to understand that compiling stuff some time ago and failed miserably ... 18:13:20 <PublicServer> <Devedse> i would like to be able to see where my COOP guys are building :) 18:13:28 <nighthawk_c_m> !password 18:13:28 <PublicServer> nighthawk_c_m: usurps 18:13:45 <PublicServer> *** nighthawk_c_m joined the game 18:14:09 *** theholyduck has joined #openttdcoop 18:14:51 <mrruben5> nighthawk_c_m: http://wiki.openttd.org/SVN 18:15:24 <mrruben5> you can compile with visual c++ or mingw 18:15:57 <PublicServer> *** Kommer has left the game (connection lost) 18:17:06 <PublicServer> *** nighthawk_c_m has left the game (desync error) 18:17:14 *** Doorslammer has joined #openttdcoop 18:17:53 <nighthawk_c_m> To be honest, I really have very limited understandings of this and find it kind of annoying to have to get into all of that stuff .... 18:17:54 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> devedse: f you are not on windows, thats easy 18:18:07 <PublicServer> <Devedse> well, i am on windows ;) 18:18:30 <PublicServer> <Devedse> i've once done some patching but was a bit to much hassle for me 18:20:17 <PublicServer> <Devedse> so are 2 of these trains better then the double white one? 18:20:37 <Doorslammer> Password? Don't know it... 18:20:40 <PublicServer> <Devedse> oh there's no white railvehicle 18:20:42 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> lmao 18:20:47 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> jezus is on twitter 18:21:01 <PublicServer> <avdg> haleluja dammm... 18:21:05 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00024C62: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00024C62.png 18:21:37 <PublicServer> <avdg> are you serious? :p 18:21:59 <Doorslammer> !password 18:21:59 <PublicServer> Doorslammer: timely 18:22:01 <Doorslammer> Ah for... 18:22:03 <Doorslammer> Oh 18:22:06 <Doorslammer> How odd 18:22:11 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> http://twitter.com/jesus 18:22:12 <Webster> Title: Jesus Christ (jesus) on Twitter (at twitter.com) 18:22:30 <Doorslammer> lol, the Second Coming was a bit dull then 18:22:57 <avdg> Microwaving peeps. :) 18:23:07 <avdg> http://twitter.com/jesus/status/11768240902 18:23:09 <Webster> Title: Twitter / Jesus Christ: Microwaving peeps. (at twitter.com) 18:23:18 <Doorslammer> Sounds painful 18:23:25 <avdg> lol 18:23:33 <nighthawk_c_m> rofl 18:23:59 <avdg> tweetie @10:00 18:24:10 <avdg> jesus likes technology :p 18:24:37 <PublicServer> *** Player joined the game 18:24:37 <Webster> Player, please change your in game nick 18:24:42 <avdg> http://twitter.com/jesusChrist :p 18:24:43 <Webster> Title: jesus from nazaret (jesuschrist) on Twitter (at twitter.com) 18:24:59 <mrruben5> http://twitter.com/jesus/status/9829728425 18:25:00 <Webster> Title: Twitter / Jesus Christ: I know I'm a carpenter, bu ... (at twitter.com) 18:25:04 <mrruben5> mwhahaha 18:25:40 <mrruben5> I know I'm a carpenter, but I've never liked installing windows. 18:25:42 <avdg> lol? http://twitter.com/antichrist 18:25:45 <Webster> Title: mike janu (Antichrist) on Twitter (at twitter.com) 18:25:52 <PublicServer> <Devedse> what is all that logic doing at Sro primary pickup? 18:26:05 <avdg> all owned 18:26:19 <PublicServer> <Player> Oops, forgot the username... 0.o 18:26:27 <PublicServer> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 18:26:44 <SmatZ> !trains 900 18:26:44 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has set max_trains to 900 18:27:18 <PublicServer> <Progman> 14.4 dialup o_O 18:27:22 <PublicServer> <Devedse> lol 18:27:32 <avdg> wth: http://twitter.com/openttd 18:27:38 <Kommer> !password 18:27:38 <PublicServer> Kommer: timely 18:27:47 <PublicServer> *** Doorslammer joined the game 18:27:48 <PublicServer> *** Kommer joined the game 18:28:11 <PublicServer> *** Absurd-Mind joined the game 18:28:29 <PublicServer> <Devedse> brb 18:28:57 <nighthawk_c_m> how do you implement conditions, like wait till x% loaded 18:29:25 <PublicServer> <Kommer> loads of secondary stuff is waiting on stations, but dont think network can handle so many trains 18:29:26 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> not sure thats possible 18:29:41 <nighthawk_c_m> it is, someone on the server did it 18:30:10 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> which train? 18:30:17 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> Kommer: I didn't see any jams 18:30:34 <PublicServer> <Kommer> there are no jams now, but if you want to transport all toys and fuzzy drinks there probably will be 18:30:58 <PublicServer> *** Doorslammer has left the game (connection lost) 18:31:02 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> +50 trains isn't that much 18:31:09 <nighthawk_c_m> !password 18:31:09 <PublicServer> nighthawk_c_m: timely 18:31:13 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> problematic place might be "BUH 01" 18:31:14 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> HUB 18:31:19 <PublicServer> <Kommer> yes true, but I mean if we add 200 trains :) 18:31:26 <PublicServer> *** nighthawk_c_m joined the game 18:31:29 <KenjiE20> @man conditional orders 18:31:35 <Webster> Conditional Orders - OpenTTD - http://wiki.openttd.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=conditional%20orders 18:31:42 <PublicServer> *** Doorslammer joined the game 18:31:42 <PublicServer> *** Progman has left the game (leaving) 18:31:53 <PublicServer> *** nighthawk_c_m has left the game (connection lost) 18:33:59 *** Polygon has joined #openttdcoop 18:34:49 <PublicServer> *** Doorslammer has left the game (connection lost) 18:35:28 *** elmz has quit IRC 18:35:32 *** elmz has joined #openttdcoop 18:36:07 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00026A50: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00026A50.png 18:41:18 <PublicServer> *** Absurd-Mind has left the game (leaving) 18:41:25 <PublicServer> *** Vitus has left the game (leaving) 18:41:31 *** Vitus has quit IRC 18:48:12 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has left the game (leaving) 18:49:18 <PublicServer> *** Intexon joined the game 18:51:09 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002445A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002445A.png 18:52:02 *** Phazorx has left #openttdcoop 18:52:32 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 18:52:39 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 18:56:28 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> shall i add some sweets trains? 18:57:07 <PublicServer> <avdg> If you're caution, I don't mind 18:57:35 *** Phazorx has joined #openttdcoop 18:57:35 *** Webster sets mode: +o Phazorx 18:58:11 <PublicServer> <avdg> limit :) 18:58:12 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> well, ti's only 15 :P 18:58:25 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> avdg: can you help a bit at hub 11? 18:58:31 <PublicServer> <avdg> pretty much 900 trains 18:58:39 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> I feel incapable to do the south to east part 18:58:40 <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm 18:58:55 <PublicServer> <avdg> let me unwire first :p 18:59:01 <PublicServer> <avdg> in my minds 18:59:18 <theholyduck> !password 18:59:18 <PublicServer> theholyduck: preyed 18:59:36 <PublicServer> *** theholyduck joined the game 18:59:46 <PublicServer> <avdg> hey duck 19:00:05 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> how are the jam problems going? 19:00:19 <PublicServer> <avdg> pretty good 19:00:37 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> there havent been any marjo ones 19:00:38 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> there are plenty of jams :P 19:00:42 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> major* 19:00:53 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> minor :) 19:01:28 <PublicServer> <avdg> that toy reroute is an ugly hack ... 19:01:44 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> no it isnt 19:01:52 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it uses a higher capacity part of the network 19:01:59 <PublicServer> <avdg> I know, but the join is making it worst 19:02:14 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> or well, a part of the network which could easily be upgraded to the capacity 19:02:28 <PublicServer> <avdg> :) 19:02:40 <PublicServer> <avdg> oh I see 19:02:43 <PublicServer> <avdg> pbs 19:02:43 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> reroute where? 19:02:55 <PublicServer> <avdg> people are to lazy to simply convert them 19:03:12 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> convert what? 19:03:18 <PublicServer> <avdg> should that work? 19:03:23 <PublicServer> <avdg> @penalty 19:03:42 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> the station penalty works 19:03:53 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> hmm, some trains do not have non stop 19:03:53 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> beer trains bypass the join 19:03:54 <PublicServer> <avdg> the pbs in front was not working 19:04:01 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> and slowing down in the penalty station :P 19:04:09 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> the pbs in front broke the prio 19:04:21 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> a pbs in an inline prio gets recognised as a normal signal 19:04:28 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> so the prio stops at the pbs signal 19:05:24 *** elmz has quit IRC 19:05:25 *** elmz has joined #openttdcoop 19:05:53 *** Doorslammer has quit IRC 19:05:59 <PublicServer> <avdg> brundnor valley doesn't have shared orders :( 19:06:11 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00022C68: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00022C68.png 19:06:36 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> when people forget to share orders, i become sad 19:06:40 <PublicServer> <Kommer> lol 19:06:44 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> holding ctrl isnt THAT hard 19:06:47 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> indeed 19:06:48 <PublicServer> <avdg> nonstop + nonshared 19:06:54 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> some people dont know about it though :o 19:07:06 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> how can you be at the level of even attempting to play a coop game 19:07:07 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> without? 19:07:09 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> so always non stop as well eh 19:07:20 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> I haven't used non stop before, I must admit 19:07:24 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> isnt it covered pretty well in the slow/quickstart stuff 19:07:29 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> ? 19:07:32 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> there is a setting to have non stop by default 19:07:45 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> theholyduck: it is covered in slowstart ;) 19:07:50 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> as it is on the wiki :P 19:08:23 <mrruben5> @slowstart 19:08:23 <Webster> Read everything on the wiki, and I mean everything 19:08:45 <theholyduck> Webster, i did first time i started playing coop, and this time :P 19:10:49 <XeryusTC> everything? 19:11:54 <XeryusTC> !trains 19:11:54 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: !trains <integer>: set value of max_trains 19:11:59 <Kommer> good night 19:12:02 <XeryusTC> !rcon patch max_trains 19:12:02 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Current value for 'max_trains' is: '900' (min: 0, max: 5000) 19:12:05 <XeryusTC> hello Kommer 19:12:08 <XeryusTC> !trains 1000 19:12:08 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has set max_trains to 1000 19:12:21 <Kommer> no hello anymore ;) time to watch a movie. 19:12:23 <Kommer> cya later 19:12:33 *** Devedse has quit IRC 19:12:43 <PublicServer> *** Devedse has left the game (connection lost) 19:12:43 <PublicServer> *** Kommer has left the game (leaving) 19:12:46 <XeryusTC> oh 19:12:52 <XeryusTC> it's a leaving good night :o 19:15:09 <mrruben5> @CI 512 512 1000 6 400 19:15:09 <Webster> Coop Index: 10.92266 19:15:28 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> hmm 19:15:45 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> so a coop index of means what? 19:15:45 <XeryusTC> hmm :o 19:15:53 <XeryusTC> @CI 19:15:53 <Webster> XeryusTC: (ci <an alias, 5 arguments>) -- Alias for "echo Coop Index: [math calc floor(( * ) / ( * * * 0.01) * (10**5))/(10.0**5)]". 19:17:13 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, sweets has started to jam 19:17:31 <mrruben5> @CI 2048 512 3000 6 400 19:17:31 <Webster> Coop Index: 14.56355 19:17:31 <PublicServer> <avdg> sweet :/ 19:17:47 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> so last game was 4 points higher 19:17:58 <theholyduck> whats the coop index supposed to be? 19:18:13 <XeryusTC> how good the game/vehicles are :P 19:18:28 <theholyduck> size of map, train limit? train lenght? 19:18:33 <theholyduck> and? whats the 400 for? 19:19:05 <XeryusTC> TL was 3 last game 19:19:16 <theholyduck> well 6 wagons long though 19:19:17 <theholyduck> :P 19:19:35 <theholyduck> i was just trying to guess the variables 19:19:59 <theholyduck> X, Y, Trains, something,something 19:20:32 <Paul2> for those UK people: http://tube.tfl.gov.uk/ LOL! 19:20:33 <Webster> Title: Test Site 2 (at tube.tfl.gov.uk) 19:20:35 <XeryusTC> 400 might be speed 19:21:09 <theholyduck> mrruben5, what are the various variables? 19:21:13 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003751B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003751B.png 19:21:43 <mrruben5> @CI 512 512 1000 6 400 19:21:43 <Webster> Coop Index: 10.92266 19:21:47 <mrruben5> wups 19:21:54 <mrruben5> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Coop_Index 19:22:41 <theholyduck> what is coopishness then? 19:23:26 <avdg> !screen 19:23:40 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh 19:23:46 <PublicServer> *** avdg made screenshot at 00003D08: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00003D08.png 19:23:50 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> sweets drop has join before splits :s 19:24:08 <theholyduck> hmm, take a look at our hq 19:24:21 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> lol who's making that infinite prison? 19:25:05 <V453000> !Screen 19:25:07 <V453000> !screen 19:25:09 <PublicServer> *** V453000 made screenshot at 0000F175: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000F175.png 19:25:52 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> bah 19:26:01 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it takes up 4 of the train limit :s 19:26:32 <PublicServer> <avdg> mrruben: you forgot 2 time on a row some tracks for allowing trains to find the exit :D 19:26:40 <PublicServer> <avdg> its fixed now 19:26:55 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> wow, the SRO pickup has a total production of 2600 O_o 19:26:58 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> avdg: where? 19:27:07 <PublicServer> <avdg> dinningdon green height 19:27:14 <PublicServer> <avdg> and dinningdon green valley 19:27:39 <PublicServer> *** VictorOfSweden joined the game 19:27:43 <PublicServer> <avdg> check dinningdon green valley :) 19:27:51 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> I see 19:28:04 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> I blame the maglev look 19:28:05 <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> hello 19:28:08 <PublicServer> <avdg> =) 19:28:44 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> can delete dinningdon valley btw 19:28:52 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> the wells seem to have dissapeared LS 19:30:54 <PublicServer> <avdg> the network is too messy for me :p 19:31:03 <PublicServer> * theholyduck would like to register for the awawrd for {most edgy station} 19:31:14 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> at !edgehug 19:31:50 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> haha 19:32:42 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> /bored 19:33:07 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> well, we hooked up pretty much every primary now 19:33:27 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> all theres left is to make it all jam less, and expand 19:33:29 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i guess 19:35:56 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> what should be the maximum of trains for a primary pickup? 19:36:15 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000059D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000059D.png 19:36:20 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> have 1 train loading and 1 waiting at most 19:36:53 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> oh, too many vehicles :) 19:37:08 <PublicServer> *** VictorOfSweden has left the game (leaving) 19:37:23 <PublicServer> <avdg> too less to crash them all :p 19:37:48 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> yay! jam 19:37:51 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> hub 02 19:37:56 <PublicServer> <avdg> party? 19:38:13 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> that's hub 9 19:38:18 <PublicServer> <avdg> lol 19:38:19 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> ah yes 19:38:22 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> please state the head of the jam, not somewhere halfway :P 19:38:45 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> I thought it began at 02 19:38:51 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> heh, ok :) 19:38:54 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> blame toyland exterior 19:39:03 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hub 1 is jamming too 19:39:10 *** devilsadvocate__ has joined #openttdcoop 19:39:33 *** devilsadvocate_ has quit IRC 19:39:52 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> new tradean woods has a lot of trains :S 19:40:20 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> if there are too many you can remove some 19:40:25 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> needs more bays maybe? 19:40:27 *** Kommer has quit IRC 19:40:41 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> the production is very high 19:40:51 *** Kommer has joined #openttdcoop 19:40:51 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Kommer 19:42:17 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> that split before join can be improved 19:43:29 *** jondisti has quit IRC 19:43:51 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> wtf 19:44:13 <PublicServer> <avdg> its a mess for me 19:44:17 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i hate people who just hack extra lines in 19:44:26 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> especially at doubled bridges/tunnels 19:44:26 <PublicServer> <avdg> I can't separate these lines in mind 19:44:33 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> without adding extra ones :o 19:46:00 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> I have the same problem as avdg :P so many tracks you can't see straight :) 19:46:20 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> so many jams 19:46:23 <PublicServer> <avdg> yeah, I had to label tracks already yesterday 19:46:30 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> plus the added effects of the maglev and toyland graphics -.- 19:46:39 *** Kommer has quit IRC 19:46:46 <PublicServer> <avdg> maglev needs better grf 19:46:56 <PublicServer> <avdg> I saw already a nice replcament 19:47:13 *** Kommer has joined #openttdcoop 19:47:13 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Kommer 19:47:30 <PublicServer> * MrRuben looks at cola & bubbles drop 19:47:39 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> it can't handle the input 19:47:40 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> :P 19:47:53 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> working on it 19:47:56 <PublicServer> <avdg> better then a bad exit :p 19:48:13 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> is that pointed at me :P? 19:48:13 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, that is the old station :o 19:48:16 <PublicServer> <avdg> ok, ml has bad exit :p 19:48:17 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> aye 19:48:39 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> why not just remove the old station? 19:48:44 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> and see what happens 19:49:23 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> seems like a potential disaster though 19:49:33 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> could cause jams other places 19:49:36 <PublicServer> <avdg> station should be splitted 19:49:55 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> just removing it would lead to some massive detours :P 19:50:08 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> it servers everything which does not come from the south 19:50:23 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> hmm haven't thought of that 19:50:52 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i'm currently making a way for western trains to go to the main drop 19:51:17 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000FCB3: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000FCB3.png 19:51:38 <PublicServer> * MrRuben wonders how that will work out 19:51:51 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> people, if you make some hacks please sign them 19:51:58 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> there is some stuff here with my name on it 19:52:03 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but it's not made by me 19:52:09 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and i dont like to be associated with it xD 19:52:57 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> yeah, it works much better now 19:53:01 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> they arent blocking eachother 19:53:12 <PublicServer> <avdg> exit does, I think 19:53:25 <Lukeus_Maximus> !password 19:53:25 <PublicServer> Lukeus_Maximus: rooked 19:53:35 <PublicServer> *** Lukeus_Maximus joined the game 19:53:39 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> you could split that though 19:53:47 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> each exit has to go in a diffrent direction 19:53:52 <PublicServer> <avdg> donno how the lines are running 19:53:55 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> and each entry comes from a diffrent one 19:54:58 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> western trains should be able to go to the main drop 19:55:03 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> *tests* 19:55:21 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, an ugly joiner :s 19:56:23 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> they are going south 19:56:30 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> yeah, i saw that 19:56:37 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> toyland is screwing with my perception 19:57:01 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i blame toyland 19:57:10 <PublicServer> *** phatmatt has left the game (leaving) 19:57:19 <PublicServer> <avdg> i blame water 19:57:30 <PublicServer> <avdg> and too many connected stations 19:57:55 <baeda> !download win64 19:57:55 <PublicServer> baeda: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19611/openttd-trunk-r19611-windows-win64.zip 19:58:05 *** phatmatt has quit IRC 19:58:07 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> hmm, we should name the mountains :) 19:58:12 <PublicServer> <avdg> lol 19:58:32 <PublicServer> <avdg> there is only 1 name for the most of them 19:58:50 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> I'm serious! They do allow us to build on them, and will never say no like towns do XD 19:59:20 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> second try :D 19:59:31 <baeda> !password 19:59:31 <PublicServer> baeda: rooked 19:59:40 <PublicServer> *** baeda joined the game 19:59:43 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ joined the game 20:00:00 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> so, we're at 1k trains 20:00:07 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh wait 20:00:15 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> half the trains cant go to the proper lane xD 20:00:27 *** Progman has quit IRC 20:00:28 <PublicServer> <baeda> good evening ;) 20:01:13 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> wtf @ company building 20:01:29 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> I dare you to make it go round the edges of the map! 20:01:40 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> you cant 20:01:52 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> i claim !edgehug 20:01:56 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> you can, if you raise land :P 20:02:07 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> well i allready occupy one of the edges 20:02:08 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> take a look 20:02:17 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> theholyduck: what's buggy there? 20:02:26 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> nothing 20:02:28 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> well if it really would eb edgehugging then you'd get wrong CL 20:02:46 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> @ corners of the map 20:02:46 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> just commenting on how i win at hugging the edge 20:03:21 <PublicServer> <avdg> :p 20:03:25 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> lol 20:03:39 <PublicServer> <avdg> that was always in 20:04:11 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> XDXD 20:04:17 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> i know what you're gonna do 20:05:13 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> HAH 20:06:19 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001CD09: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001CD09.png 20:06:41 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> lol at teningville east 20:07:06 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> poor train has to go all the way to slh 03 20:07:10 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> and then go back :D 20:07:12 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> not to mention 20:07:18 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> lol roro 20:07:25 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> why would any sane person build a roro there? 20:07:33 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> if the exit and entry is in the same direction and space is limited 20:07:39 <SmatZ> !trains 1050 20:07:39 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has set max_trains to 1050 20:07:41 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> why not just build a terminus like a sane person? 20:07:46 <PublicServer> <avdg> ... more trains? 20:07:53 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> its a primaries pickup.. 20:08:08 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> it wont have more than 1 train leaving or 1 train comming at the same time 20:08:16 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> not usually atleast 20:08:24 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> avdg: did I overlook any jam? 20:08:33 <PublicServer> <avdg> a lot :) 20:08:46 <PublicServer> *** tneo joined the game 20:08:47 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> then call me blind :-x 20:08:50 <PublicServer> <avdg> hub 2 20:09:02 <PublicServer> <tneo> SmatZ: you're blind ;-P 20:09:12 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> indeed it's jammy now 20:09:19 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> it wasn't a while ago :( 20:09:24 <SmatZ> !trains 1000 20:09:24 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has set max_trains to 1000 20:09:25 <PublicServer> <avdg> it was :p 20:09:31 <PublicServer> <avdg> and still is 20:09:40 <PublicServer> <avdg> k 20:09:46 <PublicServer> <avdg> till now :p 20:09:50 <PublicServer> *** tneo has left the game (connection lost) 20:10:01 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> sometimes it jams 20:10:05 <PublicServer> *** tneo joined the game 20:10:06 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> and then unjams... 20:10:25 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> someone mistyped candy 20:10:30 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> :D 20:11:26 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> jam of cola in 20:11:27 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> so guys 20:11:28 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> 3 20:11:29 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> 2 20:11:30 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> 1 20:11:40 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> at slh07 20:11:47 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> and hub01 20:11:52 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> theres a ENDLESS queue 20:11:55 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> of trains 20:11:56 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> waiting to merge 20:12:35 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> it can merge in 2 locations, but both are so heavily trafficated 20:12:38 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> it never happens 20:13:19 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, that jam wasnt even too bad 20:13:55 <PublicServer> <baeda> no more explosives for you ;) 20:14:23 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hub 2 westward still jams :s 20:14:39 <PublicServer> *** theholyduck has left the game (connection lost) 20:15:09 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> it's too busy :) 20:16:25 <PublicServer> * MrRuben wonders what this would be like with breakdowns 20:16:38 *** einKarl has quit IRC 20:17:17 <PublicServer> *** baeda has left the game (connection lost) 20:17:42 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 20:18:13 * avdg tries to study now 20:18:19 <PublicServer> *** avdg has joined spectators 20:18:55 <avdg> I found a nice book about software engineering 20:19:24 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> enjoy :-p 20:19:27 <pugi> hi :D 20:19:27 <ODM> always use GOTO 20:19:29 <pugi> !password 20:19:30 <PublicServer> pugi: stiffs 20:20:01 <avdg> :) thats why the guys of php where smart enough to add it since php 5.3 20:20:03 <pugi> huh 20:20:04 <pugi> new version 20:20:06 <pugi> !dl win32 20:20:07 <PublicServer> pugi: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19611/openttd-trunk-r19611-windows-win32.zip 20:20:35 <avdg> i'm just missing the gosubs now :p 20:20:37 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> 5.3.3 is out even, right? 20:20:50 <PublicServer> *** pugi joined the game 20:20:55 <avdg> donno, I only cares about macports 20:21:01 <PublicServer> <pugi> hey, anything very new? :D 20:21:03 <avdg> and they are bit sleepy :p 20:21:12 <mrruben5> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/File:BBH2.PNG 20:21:22 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00014259: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00014259.png 20:21:28 <mrruben5> gives me an xdebug error 20:21:40 <nighthawk_c_m> !password 20:21:40 <PublicServer> nighthawk_c_m: nipped 20:21:41 <avdg> lol 20:21:53 <mrruben5> ( ! ) Fatal error: Maximum execution time of 30 seconds exceeded in Unknown on line 0 20:21:58 <PublicServer> *** nighthawk_c_m joined the game 20:22:00 <avdg> is that xdebug? 20:22:03 <mrruben5> yup 20:22:10 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (connection lost) 20:22:10 <avdg> strange, xdebug on server? 20:22:15 <mrruben5> at least, I believe 20:22:26 <avdg> I'm still at loading :p 20:22:46 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has left the game (connection lost) 20:22:48 <avdg> and loading ... 20:23:19 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has left the game (connection lost) 20:24:53 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 20:25:29 *** Barbaar has quit IRC 20:27:32 <nighthawk_c_m> is the wikki buggy again? 20:27:37 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 20:27:41 *** Intexon has quit IRC 20:29:03 <PublicServer> *** nighthawk_c_m has left the game (leaving) 20:31:12 <PublicServer> *** pugi has left the game (leaving) 20:31:28 <PublicServer> *** Lukeus_Maximus has left the game (leaving) 20:32:08 *** Xarx has joined #openttdcoop 20:32:11 <Xarx> lo ppl 20:32:16 <Xarx> !password 20:32:16 <PublicServer> Xarx: nipped 20:32:46 <Xarx> !download win32 20:32:46 <PublicServer> Xarx: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19611/openttd-trunk-r19611-windows-win32.zip 20:33:16 <nighthawk_c_m> anyone having problems loading wiki pages or is it only me? 20:34:18 <SmatZ> nighthawk_c_m: it should restart in 5 minutes 20:34:29 <nighthawk_c_m> ah kk 20:34:33 <PublicServer> *** 0DM joined the game 20:35:19 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ joined the game 20:36:24 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00020558: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00020558.png 20:38:09 <Xarx> !password 20:38:09 <PublicServer> Xarx: crotch 20:38:21 <PublicServer> *** Xarx joined the game 20:39:41 <PublicServer> <0DM> looks quite nice actually 20:39:55 <PublicServer> <0DM> steel mountains... no idea what happened there:D 20:42:55 <PublicServer> *** 0DM has left the game (leaving) 20:42:58 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> jam at 08? 20:44:08 *** smoovi has quit IRC 20:47:41 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> maybe it's nice time to finish this game 20:48:10 <PublicServer> <avdg> :) 20:48:24 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> anyone wants to rebuild sweets drop? 20:48:24 <PublicServer> <avdg> its a big mess already 20:48:49 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has left the game (leaving) 20:51:01 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> hub 10 is causing a ridiculous long jam, up till toy pickup 20:51:26 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00021169: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00021169.png 20:52:12 <PublicServer> <tneo> more like hub 08 20:52:42 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ joined the game 20:52:59 <PublicServer> *** tneo has left the game (connection lost) 20:54:24 <PublicServer> *** tneo joined the game 20:56:03 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> bah, people need to add double bridges/tunnels if possible 20:56:04 <PublicServer> <avdg> wow its nice television :p 20:59:41 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> there's missing bridges at 08 as well 20:59:45 <PublicServer> <avdg> that jam is 1 big glue... 20:59:52 *** Lelle has quit IRC 21:00:17 <Headshot119> !password 21:00:17 <PublicServer> Headshot119: scrubs 21:01:59 *** valhallasw has joined #openttdcoop 21:03:29 <PublicServer> <tneo> town drop is jammed 21:03:56 *** Headshot119 has quit IRC 21:04:02 <PublicServer> <avdg> check the exit 21:04:07 <PublicServer> <avdg> a merge point 21:04:36 <PublicServer> <avdg> see it? 21:05:01 <PublicServer> *** avdg has joined company #1 21:06:28 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00028301: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00028301.png 21:06:36 <gr00vy> !password 21:06:36 <PublicServer> gr00vy: pigpen 21:07:09 <PublicServer> *** gr00vaLisTic joined the game 21:07:12 <PublicServer> *** avdg has joined spectators 21:07:25 *** Osai has quit IRC 21:07:25 *** SmatZ has quit IRC 21:07:25 *** XeryusTC has quit IRC 21:07:25 *** planetmaker has quit IRC 21:07:25 *** dihedral has quit IRC 21:07:25 *** tneo has quit IRC 21:07:33 <avdg> ? 21:07:45 <ODM> that was the bouncer 21:08:05 <avdg> all admins? 21:08:48 <ODM> just the people on the bouncer 21:08:55 <PeterT> Just people using that bouncer 21:08:59 <avdg> i know 21:10:53 <PublicServer> <tneo> i'm off night 21:11:24 <PublicServer> *** tneo has left the game (connection lost) 21:11:51 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> just accidently pressed c... nice :) 21:12:10 <PublicServer> <avdg> ctrl+b :) 21:12:24 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> wtf 21:12:39 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> grf dimensions? 21:12:52 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hm 21:12:55 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> jam 21:13:04 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> gr00vaLisTic: jams are everywhere 21:13:52 <V453000> SmatZ playing? o_O 21:13:53 <V453000> :) 21:13:57 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> moar LLL_RRR :D 21:14:03 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> V453000: a bit :) 21:14:08 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hi V453000 21:14:28 <theholyduck> how many trains are we at? 21:14:31 <V453000> hy 21:14:37 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> 1002 21:14:46 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> @ holyduck 21:14:53 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> everything is clogged up 21:14:53 <theholyduck> i realized 21:15:19 <theholyduck> really? 21:15:26 <theholyduck> it wasnt that bad when i was there a bit ago 21:15:37 <theholyduck> some minor jams occationally sure 21:15:39 <theholyduck> but nothing major 21:16:27 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> but building speed is getting crazy the last days... 21:16:29 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> LOL @ town drop 21:16:36 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> 2 days and game seems nearly complete 21:17:04 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> complete? with jams, no 21:17:23 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> unless nobody cba to fix the problems :) 21:17:45 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> well...building in terms of connecting whole map, get trains going and so on 21:17:58 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> of course there's nearly always something you could fix/revise 21:18:25 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> I'd fix some stuff myself if I knew how to build a proper LL_RR juncteon.. or even L_R as it seems from the advice of others 21:18:48 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> yeah...same problem here :) 21:19:20 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> although i'm going through the wiki very often...it's not so easy to adapt the stuff to the "real life", yet 21:19:38 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> at least for me :D 21:19:48 <PublicServer> *** avdg has joined company #1 21:20:40 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> town drop needs more exits? or is that not the problem? 21:21:30 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000159C3: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000159C3.png 21:22:01 <PublicServer> *** Xarx has left the game (connection lost) 21:22:23 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> yeah hm 21:22:35 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> that !join is a bottleneck 21:23:14 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> why is it sweet trains only use one incoming track? 21:23:26 *** Mitcian has joined #openttdcoop 21:23:34 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> wait a sec 21:23:49 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has left the game (connection lost) 21:23:49 <PublicServer> <avdg> is that allright? !hellmix 21:24:12 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> at least, if lemonade trains also only would use the other track 21:24:27 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> you could separate the exit tracks completely 21:24:45 *** Giddorah has joined #openttdcoop 21:24:48 *** nighthawk_c_m has quit IRC 21:24:58 <Giddorah> Damnit! 21:25:03 <Giddorah> I missed the start? :( 21:25:13 <PublicServer> <avdg> you're late :p 21:25:21 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> you're nearly missing the end if you wait another bit :D 21:25:29 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> seems like one of my earlier fixes helped jamming 21:25:34 *** Xarx has quit IRC 21:25:38 <Giddorah> !dl win64 21:25:38 <PublicServer> Giddorah: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19611/openttd-trunk-r19611-windows-win64.zip 21:25:41 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> removed the fix @ town drop and the jam is slightly less 21:26:10 <Giddorah> !password 21:26:10 <PublicServer> Giddorah: groovy 21:26:17 <PublicServer> *** Giddorah joined the game 21:26:23 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> AAAAAAH! 21:26:33 <PublicServer> <avdg> but the same lines aren't joining together 21:26:36 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Toyland and maglevs... 21:26:37 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> lol giddorah 21:26:49 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Quicklys! 21:26:50 *** Lukeus_Maximus has quit IRC 21:27:02 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Errr... Quickly... How do you change to OGFX?! 21:27:07 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> avdg: you mean !join thehell? 21:27:11 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> game settings 21:27:18 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> exit, then basic options 21:27:24 <PublicServer> <avdg> there shouldn't be junctions at all 21:27:31 <PublicServer> <avdg> till the junction itself 21:27:38 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Wth? I can't select anything else... Hold on 21:27:45 <PublicServer> *** Giddorah has left the game (connection lost) 21:28:09 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> what if a load balancer was added before town drop? 21:28:12 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> at the entrance 21:28:28 <PublicServer> *** Giddorah joined the game 21:28:44 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Horrible horrible toyland :P 21:28:53 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh well 21:28:57 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Back to my duty 21:29:02 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Is there something for me to do? 21:29:14 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> yup, go view town drop 21:29:19 <PublicServer> <avdg> im stunned 21:29:24 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> lots of stuff there 21:30:17 <PublicServer> <avdg> the city is simply not synced 21:30:22 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hm...once again a mainline track not being used and i don't understand why :( 21:30:23 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> What's there to fix on Town Drop? 21:30:33 <PublicServer> <avdg> we need a new town drop 21:30:42 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh, completely new? 21:30:51 <PublicServer> <avdg> thats cleaner 21:30:52 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> station walking? 21:30:57 <PublicServer> <avdg> yeah 21:31:22 <PublicServer> <avdg> anyone with an idea? 21:31:30 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> terminus 21:31:32 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> ? 21:31:37 *** devilsadvocate__ has quit IRC 21:31:49 <PublicServer> <avdg> there are not much options left 21:31:55 <PublicServer> <avdg> terminus is almost the way to go 21:32:25 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> The megalomaniac from last game comes to mind 21:32:34 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> it was handling a huge number of trains 21:32:42 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Well... Without orders :P 21:32:56 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> And they do require certain amounts of space 21:32:57 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> true 21:33:17 <PublicServer> <avdg> i hated the town drop from the start 21:33:28 <PublicServer> *** Absurd-Mind joined the game 21:33:42 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Did I say I hate toyland and maglevs? 21:33:46 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh... I think I did 21:33:49 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh well :) 21:33:50 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> blame holyduck :P 21:33:55 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hrhr :D 21:34:00 <PublicServer> <avdg> its just an other layer 21:34:02 <Paul2> !dl win32 21:34:02 <PublicServer> Paul2: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19611/openttd-trunk-r19611-windows-win32.zip 21:34:03 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> giddorah: and chaos theory, probably 21:34:06 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I blame 21:34:09 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I blame... 21:34:14 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Chris! For inventing Toyland 21:34:14 *** planetmaker has joined #openttdcoop 21:34:21 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> And Simon.. For drawing it 21:34:24 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> oh we talked about that earlier 21:34:31 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> jezus christ is on twitter 21:34:32 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> Giddorah: so start building a nice new town drop...that will raise probability of finishing game soon :D 21:34:46 *** planetmaker is now known as Guest2305 21:34:50 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> True :P 21:34:57 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> blame chris sawyer for inventing this game then :P 21:35:08 *** Guest2305 is now known as planetmaker 21:35:10 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> hmm 21:35:11 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I guess reworking the exit to connect to Hub06 instead is out of the question? 21:35:17 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> you know what I was thinking 21:35:20 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I love them both for this game :P 21:35:33 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> there is a SL south of dreadingwood 21:35:34 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> ... 21:35:37 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> :) 21:35:55 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I don't follow 21:36:00 *** elmz_ has joined #openttdcoop 21:36:06 *** elmz has quit IRC 21:36:12 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> well hub 11 is almost impossible to work with 21:36:16 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> How much TF are we allowed to do? 21:36:27 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> create a new one near tresninghill? 21:36:32 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00016BE8: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00016BE8.png 21:36:38 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> A new city-drop? 21:36:48 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> no, a BBH 21:37:09 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> We've got a jam in hub06 21:37:12 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> then upgrade the SL there to ML, and make it LLL___RRR 21:37:21 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> or whatever 21:37:52 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Sure 21:37:53 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> That could work 21:38:21 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> but it should keep the sl or not? because of the primaries 21:38:24 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> then11 gets less traffic and one could possible rework it after that 21:38:49 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> hmm, I smell some global warming 21:39:50 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> the SL going south at 06 could join somewhere else 21:40:05 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I made a temp-fix 21:40:08 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> and 06 will connect to the new hub then? 21:40:13 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Seeing as the other line was less crowded 21:41:01 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Holy crap 21:41:03 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> would it be enough to just let the trains exit to hub 06 21:41:12 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> The OGX-signals aren't good 21:41:17 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> and keeping them to enter town drop using hub 11 21:41:32 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> thats what I was thinking as well :D 21:41:35 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> See the difference between exit signal and regular signal? 21:41:57 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> where? 21:42:12 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Above "traffic from south" 21:42:14 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> almost none 21:42:16 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Well.. .East of that 21:42:26 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah... Should give some feedback on that somewhere 21:42:57 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> why do the normal signals have the white board in front of them? 21:43:06 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> grf loaded with other signals? 21:43:24 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> it's actually a pole or something I think 21:43:50 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> so...what to do? 21:44:01 <ODM> they have a different height 21:44:13 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> yeah and one has 2 red lights 21:44:20 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> the other only one 21:44:21 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah... That's easy to spot... :P 21:44:29 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> yup but the stick where the lights are on should be a darker color imho 21:44:38 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah 21:44:45 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Looks like everything is exit-signals 21:44:48 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> in default game it is more grey 21:44:51 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> like metal 21:45:10 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> just like a normal traffic light 21:45:58 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Okay 21:46:01 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Back to planning 21:46:04 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> yup 21:46:05 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> hmm... I think it's best to ask one of the members of openttdcoop for advice 21:46:16 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> see what they think of it 21:46:19 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Your idea was making a new drop at Tresninghill? 21:46:20 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> V453000 21:46:21 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> still there? 21:46:31 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Or wai 21:46:33 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> wait 21:46:34 *** devilsadvocate has joined #openttdcoop 21:46:39 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> BBH at Tresninghill? 21:46:41 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> well...one alternative was new drop, e.g. terminus 21:46:42 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I wasn't paying attention 21:46:47 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> other was new BBH @ Tresninghill 21:47:00 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> or letting use hub 11 for entrance and hub 06 for exit 21:47:06 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> well 21:47:09 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Well.. If we walked the existing drop west of Dreadingwood, we would have alot more space 21:47:12 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> it's a peninsula there 21:47:13 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> How much TF do we do? 21:47:22 <V453000> im not in game groovy 21:47:29 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> i know 21:47:36 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> but perhaps you would like to have a look? ;) 21:47:39 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> That last idea was mine... But I don't think the usual suspects like when you connect two hubs 21:47:58 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> well whatever you think is best then 21:48:14 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> my ideas are mostly too random anyway ^^ 21:48:20 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Me personally would use the existing entrance and make an exit at 06 21:48:25 *** elmz has joined #openttdcoop 21:48:35 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> But I'm not really somebody :P 21:48:48 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> And we would have to rebuild Hub 06 21:48:58 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ joined the game 21:49:39 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> the funny thing is....actually there is not so much jam at the exit anymore :D 21:49:58 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> 11 is still very messy 21:50:15 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> It'll look prettier if it didn't have the return-traffic 21:50:16 <theholyduck> most of the junctions are :P 21:50:29 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> so it's the question wether we need a new station or if it's the hub that would have to be cleaned up 21:50:30 <theholyduck> its called trying to keep the junctions working while you build them 21:50:36 <theholyduck> in minimal space 21:50:40 <theholyduck> with tons of traffic :P 21:50:50 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> More fun that way :) 21:51:04 * theholyduck goes to sleep 21:51:09 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> it's like 20th missing signal I am adding in this game 21:51:10 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> n8 21:51:25 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> nn theholyduck 21:51:34 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00016F9F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00016F9F.png 21:52:27 *** VictorOfSweden has quit IRC 21:53:43 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Should we vote? 21:54:10 <V453000> about? 21:54:18 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Sigh... Why do people put signals on their primary stations? :P 21:54:26 <mrruben5> ammler: would like your advice in game :) 21:54:40 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> V: How we should modify the Town Drop in the best way to make it more efficient 21:54:46 <mrruben5> or v453000, whatever :) 21:54:47 <V453000> meh :) 21:54:49 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> Giddorah: it's everyone's building style 21:55:14 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> but in some cases, two-way PBS at each platform makes the station faster 21:55:33 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oops... I meant signs... Sigh 21:55:44 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> but we had a major jam at town drop earlier, and we think it's because 11 is overly used 21:55:45 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Why do people put signs on their primary stations :) 21:56:00 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> Giddorah: it's the rule 21:56:07 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh? On primaries? :O 21:56:08 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> you have to sign everything you do 21:56:09 *** elmz_ has quit IRC 21:56:14 <Ammler> it is nice to know, who to blame 21:56:19 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Crap... I've broken alot of rules :( 21:56:28 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :) 21:56:40 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2010/04/11/logging-and-statistics/ 21:56:41 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I only thought big projects needed signs 21:56:48 <Ammler> Giddorah: where can we send the bill? 21:57:00 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Ulvviksvägen 12, 87010 Älandsbro 21:57:03 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :D 21:57:12 <Ammler> country? 21:57:19 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> 46 Swede 21:57:20 <PublicServer> *** Absurd-Mind has left the game (leaving) 21:57:22 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> n 21:57:26 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Johan Spånberg 21:57:37 <Ammler> hmm, do we have swedish member? 21:57:53 <Ammler> !users 21:57:54 <PublicServer> Ammler: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Community:Members 21:57:54 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> TheSwedishViking? 21:58:23 <Ammler> our first Webmaster 21:59:40 <PublicServer> *** Amm1er joined the game 21:59:52 <PublicServer> * Amm1er is here with original TTD 22:00:08 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> who is wokring on hub 11= 22:00:09 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> maglev is pink? 22:00:20 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> or do I have dos graphics? 22:00:56 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> you mean the engine? 22:01:06 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> no the tracks 22:01:15 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> with opengfx it's grey 22:01:19 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> using ottd 22:01:57 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> MrRuben: did you see trains in tunnels? 22:02:01 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> You prolly have DOS-Graphics 22:02:03 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> yeah :D 22:02:17 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> I still do :) 22:02:31 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> well, I see a black contour at 40% opacity or so 22:02:42 *** ODM has quit IRC 22:02:47 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> yeah, like transparent 22:02:59 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> alpha opacity that is ;) 22:03:33 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> weird thing is that it doesn't show through tunnel fronts and exits 22:04:27 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> laggy 22:06:36 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00016FBA: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00016FBA.png 22:07:24 <Ammler> next game again toyland? 22:07:36 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> with opengfx, my eyes don't hurt 22:07:37 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :) 22:07:39 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> desert 22:07:57 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Okay 22:08:01 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Back to plan again 22:08:02 *** XeryusTC has joined #openttdcoop 22:08:02 *** Webster sets mode: +o XeryusTC 22:08:03 <Webster> The third coop bot 22:08:07 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Ammler... We have a few options 22:08:22 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Wtf? I've got a mosquito in my room 22:08:34 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 22:08:38 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Ruben: Would you like to go through them with Ammler? :P 22:08:51 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> yeah 22:09:01 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> basicly we had the idea of creating a new town drop 22:09:09 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> west of the original one 22:09:11 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> as a terminus 22:09:13 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm 22:09:25 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hub 1 should be rebuild so the ML doesnt have bridges or tunnels 22:09:34 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> and then route the exit to the south, make a HUB there, and make a ML there to 06 22:10:22 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> that was my idea 22:10:39 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> essentially creating a new ML loop around the big lake 22:11:03 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> My idea was just to simply route the exit from City Drop to Hub 06 22:11:13 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> we can also modify the existing town drop to have the exit join on 06 22:11:22 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> With some rebuilding of both Hub 06 and Hub 11 to make them more efficient 22:11:49 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Both of those ideas are quite simple and will provide more space and more efficiency 22:11:52 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> luckily XeryusTC is here 22:12:03 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> he can advise you much than me :-P 22:12:06 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> unfortunately he will dissaprear in 20 mins :P 22:12:19 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> We just need the advice :) Not help ;) 22:12:20 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> better* 22:12:38 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> who suggested to modify the roro's to termini? 22:12:43 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> i did 22:12:55 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> you deserve to be stabbed 22:12:56 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> to make space for a new ML to a new BBH 22:13:00 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> terminus is evil 22:13:11 <PublicServer> <avdg> not always 22:13:19 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> terminus might even need more space 22:13:32 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> if you like to build it as effective 22:13:35 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> one should never build terminus stations actually 22:13:49 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> they are less efficient and more likely to jam 22:14:02 <planetmaker> XeryusTC: that's outdated wisdom ;-) 22:14:03 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> as all trains need to use the same crossing, while roro is all one way traffic 22:14:11 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> so why do they show up so often in last games? :) 22:14:24 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I've been in them 22:14:25 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> do they? 22:14:27 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> have you seen the megalomaniac in 180? 22:14:27 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> because people are stupid if you dont tell them why 22:14:28 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> haha 22:14:33 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> @ Giddorah 22:14:39 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> :P 22:15:12 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> 06 and 11 are jamming up atm 22:15:16 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> ok, well, xeryustc: what would be your plan to optimize town drop, 11 and 6? 22:15:21 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> XeriusTC_ so what would your suggestion look like 22:15:26 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> lol 22:15:33 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> use autocomplete ;) 22:15:46 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> you can move the tracks of the roros 22:15:47 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> too late...first wrote the sentence... ;) 22:16:02 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> autocomplete didn't want to work anymore then 22:16:06 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Xeryus: How about keeping the Ro-Ro... Maybe walk it a bit further to the west to add more platforms... And make it exit into the Hub 06? 22:16:08 * planetmaker usually builds terminus for primaries and likes to build also sometimes terminus for main stations 22:16:16 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> he jam goes forward to hub 10 22:16:39 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> see Neshaw Springs Woods 22:16:50 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> you save 5 tiles like that 22:16:55 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> moving the station does even more 22:17:02 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> imo. hub 10 needs better exit merge/split/mix 22:17:18 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Lots of hubs do 22:17:33 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> Amm1er: hub 10 has needed a rebuild ever since it got upgraded to LLxRR on one side :P 22:17:39 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> oh, hub 8 does also 22:17:44 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> 8 is too slow 22:18:41 <PublicServer> * Amm1er should switch to opengfx 22:18:48 <PublicServer> *** Amm1er has left the game (leaving) 22:21:28 *** Benom has joined #openttdcoop 22:21:39 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000276F9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000276F9.png 22:21:43 *** Benom has quit IRC 22:22:23 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I don't get some of these hubs 22:22:26 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Like Hub 10 22:22:43 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Why is the mainline coming from the west going south being de-prioed? 22:22:52 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> xeryustc: could you please supply us with advice on how to improve traffic between town drop , 06 and 11, as all we have been hearing from you yet is negative feedback on our existing plans 22:23:09 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> probably because if it has prio then other traffic cannot join 22:23:36 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> MrRuben: what you need to do is build a new drop 22:23:42 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> maybe like the beer drop 22:23:54 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> And... Should we rebuild the exit to the other hub? 22:24:01 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> do some proper traffic mixing instead of these stations which rely on traffic not being mixed 22:24:18 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> do it west of the town 22:24:26 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and rejoin the ML at hub11 22:25:03 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> and the new town drop should be roro? 22:25:09 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> always 22:26:17 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> what about 11 and 06 as a hub themselves, how could we possible solve them? or will proper balancing on the roro station fix them as well? 22:26:35 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> proper balancing will help the most 22:26:40 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> at hub 11 22:26:51 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> We'll see 22:27:06 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> although you might want to change hub 11 alot 22:27:10 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> Giddorah: don't you like the spaghetti style hubs? 22:27:12 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ;) 22:27:21 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> They're fun to watch... While the game is paused :P 22:27:25 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> basicly have the town drop joins bypass the main hub and join after 22:27:34 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> so you can have a clean SLH 22:27:40 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> well if the are jammed it's nearly like pause-mode :D 22:27:49 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> That's why I like these so much :D 22:28:37 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Aight... To work :) Ruben... We doing Town Drop? 22:28:44 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> yup 22:28:58 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> You build... I place station-sign with our names on? 22:29:13 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> you might want to depot all sweets and cola trains when rebuilding hub 11 22:29:23 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> We're allowed to do that? :D 22:29:31 *** valhallasw has quit IRC 22:29:39 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> also, fix !connect up 22:30:00 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> see !move town join to here 22:30:10 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> roundabout there you want to mix the traffic with the mainline 22:31:34 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> the roro station, 2 entry lanes? 22:31:47 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah 22:31:54 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> yes 22:31:55 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> We got two entrances from the hub 22:31:56 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> same as now 22:32:23 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> if you do it properly you can have a split into southbound and eastbound traffic at where the town drop is now later on 22:32:41 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> have those two bypass hub 11 and join after it 22:32:50 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> aha 22:33:56 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> You're building monorail :) 22:34:04 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> yeah I noticed 22:34:11 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Might be easier 22:34:13 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> needs more drop platforms ;) 22:34:14 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> We can convert later 22:34:26 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> There is a convert-tool you know ;) 22:34:57 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> you need at least 15 platforms i recon 22:35:00 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> bah, damn town does not like us :P 22:35:08 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> current has 20 platforms 22:35:21 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> but not all are used 22:35:28 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Blah 22:35:38 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> about 12 at most if it is very busy, but you need some space to grow 22:35:41 *** elmz_ has joined #openttdcoop 22:35:57 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> stupid dreadingwood :P 22:36:10 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Well... I do believe they have some noise-complaints ;) 22:36:19 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> lol 22:36:41 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000268E2: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000268E2.png 22:36:43 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Just make the tracks until we can add more stations :) 22:39:04 *** Plimmer has joined #openttdcoop 22:39:37 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> where will exit go to now? hub 06 or 11? 22:39:37 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> see the new cola drop, you might want to copy that 22:39:48 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> 11 22:40:01 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> yeah I'm looking at that 22:40:04 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> We'll try to add it as nicely as possible 22:40:16 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> just trying to prevent running out of space in front of stations 22:41:31 <Ammler> dear members: 22:41:35 <Ammler> !genkey 22:41:35 <PublicServer> Ammler: Usage: ./bin/genkey.sh [-d|--delete] nick 22:41:35 <PublicServer> Ammler: Does create or delete a password key. 22:41:56 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has left the game (leaving) 22:41:58 <Ammler> hmm, but run it privately... 22:42:04 *** SmatZ has joined #openttdcoop 22:42:13 <SmatZ> yes dear Ammler? 22:42:14 <Giddorah> What does that do? 22:42:27 <Ammler> !genkey Ammler 22:42:27 <PublicServer> Ammler: Key generated: KEY = keys/Ammler.b6c405c0c0d1c0fce60e6cca7e2ee69d 22:43:00 *** elmz has quit IRC 22:43:02 <SmatZ> !genkey SmatZ 22:43:02 <PublicServer> SmatZ: you must be channel op to use !genkey 22:43:26 <Ammler> that you can use for autojoin (attdau or autostart) 22:43:27 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o SmatZ 22:43:30 <SmatZ> !genkey SmatZ 22:43:30 <PublicServer> SmatZ: Key generated: KEY = keys/SmatZ.ea0a7e0c9e770ec473abf72e1e46eb38 22:43:35 <SmatZ> okie 22:43:44 <SmatZ> what now :) 22:43:46 <Giddorah> !genkey Giddorah 22:43:46 <PublicServer> Giddorah: you must be channel op to use !genkey 22:43:48 <Ammler> hmm, I need to make it anser to private 22:43:56 <SmatZ> :D 22:44:06 <Giddorah> Well... How do I... Hmmm 22:44:07 <SmatZ> !genkey SmatZ 22:44:07 <PublicServer> SmatZ: Key generated: KEY = keys/SmatZ.04de0f7dbb0ccb9bd0c90b08695d147c 22:44:07 <Giddorah> !dl 22:44:07 <PublicServer> Giddorah: !dl autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x 22:44:19 <PeterT> what does !genkey do? 22:44:24 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> how many tracks are you going to build @ towndrop? 22:44:25 <Giddorah> Will I not need a password to get on the server? 22:44:34 <PeterT> !tell Giddorah !password 22:44:34 <PublicServer> Giddorah: looses 22:44:45 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> 15, as xeryustc said :) 22:44:49 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ok 22:44:58 <XeryusTC> or more if you want to :P 22:45:12 <Ammler> Giddorah: yes 22:45:21 <Giddorah> Oh! How do I set that up? :D 22:45:50 <XeryusTC> !rcon patch max_trains 22:45:51 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Current value for 'max_trains' is: '1000' (min: 0, max: 5000) 22:46:01 <XeryusTC> Ammler: it would be nice if !trains did that too ;) 22:46:40 <SmatZ> XeryusTC: you certainly don't want to raise that number :-p 22:46:50 <XeryusTC> i know 22:46:56 <XeryusTC> i just wanted to know what it was set too 22:47:01 <XeryusTC> !trains doesn't do that :S 22:47:01 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: !trains <integer>: set value of max_trains 22:47:06 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I'll try bribing and see if we can add more stations Ruben 22:47:10 <PeterT> owow 22:47:29 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Whenever you're ready :) 22:47:37 <XeryusTC> Ammler: the bnc is broken btw :s 22:48:34 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> should i put some signals at the entering tracks? 22:48:48 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> go ahead 22:49:05 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> make the exit balanced too 22:49:16 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> you have a fully balanced entry and an unbalanced exit 22:49:19 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> that will cause jams 22:49:38 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> I know xeryustc, just not sure how to do the exit yet 22:49:51 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> ah wait a sec 22:49:53 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> nvm 22:49:54 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> dont we want to use even number of tracks? looks nicer :D 22:50:21 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> tunnels to the rescue :D 22:51:14 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> lol :) 22:51:19 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> gah :P 22:51:43 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000163E9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000163E9.png 22:52:25 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ joined the game 22:52:38 <Ammler> !genkey 22:52:43 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Looking good so far :) 22:53:16 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> hmm 22:53:25 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Maybe make Bronshaw a Terminus? 22:53:55 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Think you added the exit-tunnels wrong? 22:54:14 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> you are able to build around that aren't you? 22:54:20 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> let me see 22:54:44 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Ruben... Exit tunnels... Wrong :) 22:54:45 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> otherwise you'll have a problem with the industry anyway :P 22:54:54 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Need to go one cell east 22:55:00 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> no idea how to do those exit tunnels then 22:55:04 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> anyway, gn 22:55:09 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> G'nite Xeryus 22:55:10 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> i will complain about your exit tomorrow :P 22:55:11 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (leaving) 22:55:17 <XeryusTC> alarm in 5 hours :o 22:56:15 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> I'm looking at the cola/bubbles drop 22:56:40 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> i would move tunnels up, too :) 22:56:54 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> 1 tile 22:57:26 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> of course we had also have switched one junction :D 22:58:51 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hmm 22:58:55 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Wait a second... :P 22:59:00 <PublicServer> <avdg> :D 22:59:00 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I made a boo-boo :P 22:59:16 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> That's right... Right? 22:59:16 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 22:59:20 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> no the shouldn't merge there 22:59:28 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> should they? 22:59:42 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Wait... Hmm 22:59:50 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> i think we should use two exit tracks? 22:59:54 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yes 22:59:56 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> We have :P 23:00:27 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I wouldn't bridge there 23:00:28 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> like this? 23:00:34 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> don't know 23:00:47 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Wait 23:01:01 <PublicServer> <avdg> switch them 23:01:17 <PublicServer> <avdg> last 2 switched 23:01:21 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> aaas 23:01:25 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> nono 23:01:26 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Stupid keyboard 23:01:28 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Like that? 23:01:40 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> now its 9:7 23:01:53 <PublicServer> <avdg> pebcac 23:01:57 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> No... Don't join those :P 23:02:07 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh wait 23:02:10 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> ehhh 23:02:18 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Last two stations join the same line 23:02:26 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> wait 23:02:29 <PublicServer> * avdg just wanna say something 23:02:34 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Go ahead :) 23:02:40 <PublicServer> <avdg> ****** 23:02:48 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Sigh.. Occam's Razor 23:02:54 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I always fall for it 23:03:11 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> now it should be 8:8 23:03:15 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yes :) 23:03:23 *** ^Spike^ has quit IRC 23:03:37 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I'll try bribing 23:03:40 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> i think we could shorten the outer track one tile 23:03:47 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> so the lowest track can go straight? 23:04:25 *** Polygon has quit IRC 23:05:07 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> hmm, not sure if the paralellogram style was a correct choice there 23:05:10 <Ammler> !genkey Ammler 23:05:17 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> why not? 23:05:28 <PublicServer> <avdg> ease of connecting :) 23:05:31 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> it's touching the primaries too much :) 23:05:42 <PublicServer> <avdg> kill it then :p 23:05:47 *** elmz has joined #openttdcoop 23:05:51 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Let's add trains to it and kill the old station 23:05:59 <PublicServer> <avdg> 1 less doesn't hurt 23:06:04 <Ammler> !genkey Ammler 23:06:04 <PublicServer> Ammler: Key sent to Ammler 23:06:35 <Ammler> !genkey -d Ammler 23:06:35 <PublicServer> Ammler: Keys for Ammler removed 23:06:45 <Ammler> !genkey SmatZ 23:06:45 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001FAF2: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001FAF2.png 23:06:45 <PublicServer> Ammler: Key sent to SmatZ 23:06:46 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> meh maybe give it a test run? 23:06:53 <Ammler> SmatZ: did you get a pm? 23:06:55 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> can always go back to the old station if it fails 23:08:13 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> I certainly am not fit yet to make these large stations though :) need more practice 23:08:41 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> although i think this is one of the easier layouts, isn't it? 23:08:48 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> yeah 23:08:49 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> it's symmetric and at least 23:09:19 <Ammler> !genkey 23:09:31 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> but xeryustc said to make the exit balanced 23:09:49 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Aight... Exit is temp-fixed 23:09:54 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> We can test it now if you want? 23:10:13 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> yeap 23:10:18 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> It's just a temp-exit 23:10:22 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> No need to double-tunnel just yet :P 23:10:32 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Ready? 23:10:36 <PublicServer> <avdg> no 23:10:37 <PublicServer> <avdg> go 23:10:41 <Ammler> !genkey PeterT 23:10:41 <PublicServer> Ammler: Key sent to PeterT 23:10:53 <PeterT> I got a PM 23:11:06 *** heffer has quit IRC 23:11:29 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Entrance aint working good 23:11:31 <planetmaker> what is this genkey thingy? 23:11:48 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Seems like it's a signal issue 23:12:09 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Back to old station again 23:12:16 <PublicServer> <avdg> stopid tunnel :p 23:12:27 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Should they be combo-signals on the entrances? 23:12:41 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> pre's on the entrance, combo after that 23:12:43 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hm, i think first signal should be entry.... 23:12:47 *** elmz_ has quit IRC 23:12:51 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> It is 23:12:54 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> yup 23:13:07 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> we could try pbs instead 23:13:10 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> without combos 23:13:26 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Sure 23:14:00 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Should there be combo's at the tunnels? 23:14:09 <PublicServer> <avdg> roro helps the world! :p 23:14:23 <PublicServer> <avdg> i mean terminals :) 23:14:28 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah 23:14:35 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Terminus-stations are more space efficient :) 23:14:41 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hm 23:14:45 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Re-signalling done? 23:15:03 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> i will remove them on one track 23:15:06 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> so we can compare :D 23:15:13 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Good idea :) 23:15:18 <Ammler> !genkey planetmaker 23:15:18 <PublicServer> Ammler: Key sent to planetmaker 23:15:20 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ok, go 23:15:40 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Here they come 23:16:06 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hm pbs suxx like this 23:16:20 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> trains are waiting in tunnel 23:16:21 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Either one seems to work? 23:16:22 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> on train got stuck in tunnel because station was blocked 23:16:34 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Well... Add PBS to the X'es too? :) 23:16:47 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> oh yes 23:16:53 <Ammler> !genkey 23:16:53 <PublicServer> Ammler: !genkey [--delete] nick: generates a key for autojoin 23:16:54 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hm 23:16:56 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> or wait 23:17:00 <PublicServer> <avdg> make it 1 signalblock except the tunnels? 23:17:03 <PublicServer> <avdg> nah 23:17:08 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hm 23:17:20 <PeterT> !genkey 23:17:20 <PublicServer> PeterT: you must be channel op to use !genkey 23:17:34 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> How does it look? 23:17:35 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> thats the problem with pbs 23:17:44 *** Progman_ has joined #openttdcoop 23:17:50 <PublicServer> <avdg> switch back? 23:17:55 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> they block the Xs when both tracks are occupied 23:18:07 <PublicServer> *** Peter joined the game 23:18:09 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> the choose before knowing which one is going to get free first 23:18:13 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> We're back to old station 23:18:15 <PublicServer> <avdg> hi peter 23:18:47 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> i think we should make longer track between entrance track and X 23:18:54 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> so a train can wait on each track 23:18:59 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> without blocking 23:19:09 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> So trains can wait without holding up entrance-tracks? 23:19:10 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> that might help yeah 23:19:17 *** pugi has quit IRC 23:19:18 <PublicServer> *** Peter has left the game (leaving) 23:19:24 <PeterT> !password 23:19:24 <PublicServer> PeterT: roding 23:19:31 <PublicServer> *** Peter joined the game 23:19:35 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> move the x to the station or the entrace tracks to the left? 23:19:51 <PublicServer> *** Peter has joined company #1 23:19:59 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> well tunnels need to be moved north 23:20:00 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> move entrance i would say 23:20:01 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I like slowdown-space (a) 23:20:06 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> yup 23:20:26 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> how many tiles? 23:20:34 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> well TL3 it is right? 23:20:46 <PublicServer> *** Peter has left the game (leaving) 23:21:09 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Why don't we re-do the signals too? 23:21:25 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hm 23:21:30 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> perhaps one more tile 23:21:35 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> so if we switch back to combos 23:21:38 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> One more 23:21:39 *** Progman_ has quit IRC 23:21:39 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> a train can wait between to signals 23:21:47 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000155E3: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000155E3.png 23:22:27 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hm 23:22:29 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> oki 23:22:32 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> :D 23:22:53 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Is this what they call Co-op? :P 23:22:57 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> :D 23:23:09 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> switch back the PBS @ X to combo? 23:23:10 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> We trying with PBS or Combos first? 23:23:25 *** Progman has quit IRC 23:23:37 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> at the Xs i would use combo/entry i think 23:23:43 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> so they don't choose to early 23:23:48 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> try all pbs first imho 23:23:53 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Aight 23:24:00 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> problem is, if both stations are occupied 23:24:05 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> they already chose a track 23:24:13 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> and other might clear earlier 23:24:15 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> but cannot be used 23:24:41 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> hmm 23:24:53 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> like this i think 23:25:07 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> You're probably right :) 23:25:15 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> why the signals on the lower tracks? 23:25:16 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ah ok 23:25:17 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> :D 23:25:25 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Try it? 23:25:47 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Wait 23:25:49 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> why not one tl? 23:26:03 <PublicServer> <avdg> so its free when the train moves 23:26:08 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> We've got some weird signals in the waiting areas on the southern exit-line 23:26:12 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Err 23:26:15 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Entrance 23:26:16 <PublicServer> <avdg> :p 23:26:19 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> On the inner entrance-line 23:26:26 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> thats so trains can wait in the tunnel? 23:26:35 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Not on the tunneled line 23:26:38 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> The other line 23:26:45 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> yeah i think the combos can be removed? 23:26:58 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> pbs will take care of the waiting space 23:27:04 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah... Trains wont be able to wait without holding up entrance-line with those 23:27:05 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> then the pbs for the tunneled lines is irrelevant 23:27:22 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> so remove the combos? 23:27:39 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Are we talking about the same signals? 23:27:50 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> the first signal at every waiting bay? 23:27:55 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> yeah# 23:28:04 <PublicServer> <avdg> give them a name :) 23:28:09 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> combos 23:28:15 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> the ones behind them are entry 23:28:16 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ^ 23:28:31 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Only TL2 to the entrance-line 23:28:34 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Trains can't wait there 23:28:43 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> On line 2 :P 23:28:45 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Good idea :P 23:28:46 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> like this 23:28:51 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Should be better 23:28:56 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Third time's the charm? 23:29:05 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> now any track can have a waiting train 23:29:10 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Adding trains 23:29:11 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> without blocking entrance 23:29:13 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Watch for entrance-jams 23:29:21 <Ammler> good night 23:29:51 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hm slowdone at inner entrance 23:29:59 <PublicServer> <avdg> they should be forced to the last platform 23:29:59 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah? 23:30:18 <PeterT> Good night Ammler 23:30:20 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Trains back to old station 23:30:23 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> well forcing them can be done 23:30:24 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> G'nite Ammler 23:30:25 <PeterT> Or Not Ammler 23:30:52 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Adding penalties? 23:31:10 <PublicServer> <avdg> donno if that helps 23:31:18 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Why would it? :O 23:31:27 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> lets see 23:31:28 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ^ 23:31:29 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> yeah that way they'll take the last one first 23:31:30 <PublicServer> <avdg> :p 23:31:33 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> I think :) 23:31:35 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> try and error 23:31:35 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Aight... Adding trains 23:31:36 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> :D 23:31:39 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> seen that trick in 180 23:31:40 <PublicServer> <avdg> the last has penalty too :) 23:31:46 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> we're n00bs, we're allowed to try some crap :D 23:32:04 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> True :) 23:32:07 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> no, damnit :( 23:32:16 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Where was the slowdown? 23:32:17 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> slowdown at entrance 1 23:32:26 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> right before pbs 23:32:32 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> don't know why though 23:32:33 <PublicServer> <avdg> what without pbs? 23:32:46 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh 23:32:47 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Saw it 23:33:10 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Maybe split the lines into four entrance-lanes? 23:33:47 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> what do you do? 23:33:55 <PublicServer> <avdg> you know the old stations? 23:34:00 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> bridge hacking? 23:34:01 <PublicServer> <avdg> with presignals 23:34:04 <PublicServer> <avdg> yeah 23:34:19 <PublicServer> <avdg> to force them to take the last 23:34:29 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 23:34:44 *** planetmaker has quit IRC 23:34:46 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> i still wonder why they would slowdown in front of pbs with empty paths available 23:35:04 *** Pe1erT has joined #openttdcoop 23:35:09 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ah 23:35:10 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> i know 23:35:37 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> its when a train choses a lower track... and all other tracks before are occupied... 23:35:41 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> then there is no free path 23:35:49 *** elmz_ has joined #openttdcoop 23:36:10 *** Pe1erT has quit IRC 23:36:14 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> as an earlier track frees up soon...slowdown is only slight... 23:36:46 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hm 23:36:49 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00015FDE: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00015FDE.png 23:36:59 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> perhaps we should try entrance like cola drop 23:37:09 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> 2 tracks per split 23:37:20 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> not a single one for each track 23:37:42 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> does that change anything? 23:37:59 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Maybe... We should have two-way PBS-Signals between each split? 23:38:04 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Err 23:38:07 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Not two-way offcourse 23:38:10 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> But PBS-Signals :P 23:38:47 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> at cola drop entrance splits are cascaded... 23:38:50 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> what about that bridge trick? 23:38:58 <avdg> d 23:39:05 <PublicServer> <avdg> donno 23:39:10 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> doesnt help 23:39:18 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> does it? 23:39:27 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> at least if earlier tracks are occupied 23:39:30 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> we can try 23:40:35 <PublicServer> <avdg> detour? 23:40:42 <PublicServer> <avdg> to old 23:41:19 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> I believe the bridge trick was to be used with pre /combo signals 23:41:27 <PublicServer> <avdg> yeah 23:41:35 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> or at least I saw that somewhere on the wiki 23:41:36 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> so we put trains back to old station? 23:41:41 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> What about pbs-signals between each split? 23:42:28 <PublicServer> <avdg> like this? 23:42:35 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> yeah 23:42:35 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> what should happen now? 23:42:50 *** elmz has quit IRC 23:43:18 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> trains can see where there is space with it right 23:43:46 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> We need to add that to the other line too then, right? 23:43:50 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> is pre signals right in between? or should there be combos? 23:43:50 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Ah... Yes :P 23:44:08 <PublicServer> <avdg> i think its fine now 23:44:20 <PublicServer> <avdg> now just the other lane 23:44:42 *** KyleS has joined #openttdcoop 23:45:31 <KyleS> !download 23:45:31 <PublicServer> KyleS: !download autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x 23:45:38 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Hmm 23:45:40 <KyleS> !dl osx 23:45:40 <PublicServer> KyleS: use !svn or ask avdg or planetm4ker 23:45:42 <PublicServer> <avdg> or maybe combo 23:46:08 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Nono 23:46:14 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> That's belonging to Line 2 23:47:04 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> damn that bubble gen 23:47:16 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> That works? 23:47:26 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> With some signalling 23:48:04 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ? 23:48:07 <PublicServer> <avdg> combo 23:48:14 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> where? 23:48:15 <PublicServer> <avdg> presignal does nothing there 23:48:23 <PublicServer> <avdg> @bridge 23:48:31 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> so on the other lane it's wrong too? :) 23:48:38 <PublicServer> <avdg> nope 23:48:39 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> ah i see 23:48:39 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> sorry 23:49:23 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> We done? 23:49:30 <PublicServer> <avdg> looks like 23:49:32 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> believe so 23:49:40 <PublicServer> <avdg> lets see 23:49:44 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Trains coming 23:50:09 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Looking smooth, right? 23:50:16 <PublicServer> <avdg> yeah 23:50:21 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> till now 23:50:25 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> hold on 23:50:37 <PeterT> KyleS: Sorry, osx isn't supported anymore :-( 23:50:39 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> the exits are between combos 23:51:23 <PublicServer> <avdg> its too smooth :p 23:51:24 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hm 23:51:42 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> but trains choose waiting bay although there is an empty station 23:51:51 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00015BCA: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00015BCA.png 23:51:51 <PublicServer> <avdg> :D 23:52:13 <PublicServer> <avdg> ad them back 23:52:20 *** thgergo has quit IRC 23:52:52 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> should they be 1 way? 23:52:57 <PublicServer> <avdg> no 23:53:05 <PublicServer> <avdg> penalty 23:53:16 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> looks better... 23:53:21 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Haha 23:53:34 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> all bays used 23:53:34 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah... Design is important... :P 23:54:00 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Looking good! 23:54:09 <PublicServer> <avdg> :) 23:54:11 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> still, whya re they clogging up in the tunnels 23:54:19 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> and before the stations 23:54:20 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Now all we have to do is re-make Hub 11 and Hub 06 23:54:32 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Waiting area :) 23:54:34 *** Mitcian has quit IRC 23:54:44 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> but penalty is not working like that, is it? 23:54:51 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> as any track has penalty 23:55:27 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> :D 23:55:32 <PublicServer> <avdg> :p 23:55:51 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> hmm, could maybe use another 2 bays? 23:55:52 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I like it :) Good job team :) 23:55:58 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> where the exit lanes are now 23:56:15 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> interesting that before the old station wasnt completely used 23:56:29 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> and now with 16 bays it's nearly 100% loaded 23:56:30 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Throughput is higher on this station 23:56:55 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> I still wonder what it would be with a proper terminus here 23:57:02 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Maybe it's time to start retireing the old station :) I voulonteer 23:57:09 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> well find yourself some space and try :D 23:57:11 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hrhr 23:57:35 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> there is no space XD 23:57:35 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> perhaps we can leave it and ask some pro about his opinion 23:57:39 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> before killing it 23:57:47 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> don't know 23:57:48 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> :D 23:57:58 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> although i think the new one is at least not worse :D 23:58:00 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> We just made a kickass pro-station :P 23:58:03 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> hrhr 23:58:05 <PublicServer> <avdg> :) 23:58:07 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> but 23:58:14 <PublicServer> <gr00vaLisTic> how many ppl does it take to build a station :D 23:58:15 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> our throuhput is causing a jam :D 23:58:31 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Yeah... The hubs aren't elite enough for our throughput :( 23:58:42 <PublicServer> <avdg> remove the old? 23:58:49 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> I can do that :) 23:58:54 <PublicServer> <avdg> bang! 23:58:55 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> If you all think it's time 23:58:55 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> no wait 23:59:15 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> xeryustc said to join the exit after the hub 23:59:17 <PublicServer> <MrRuben> didnt he? 23:59:23 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> Oh... He did 23:59:32 <PublicServer> <Giddorah> We can still remove the old station though (a)