Log for #openttdcoop on 12th May 2010:
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01:02:52  <scobos> Mazur: you there?
01:03:00  <scobos> I got a prototype working
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02:20:39  <PublicServer> ed: hovels
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05:06:00  <Webster> ...
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06:28:30  <Arkenklo> !help
06:28:30  <PublicServer> Arkenklo:
06:29:24  <Arkenklo> !ip
06:29:24  <PublicServer> Arkenklo:
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06:39:04  <Arkenklo> is the server using the nightly build?
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06:49:55  <KloBass> you you
06:49:58  <KloBass> good mourning
06:59:13  <Mazur> Morning.
06:59:54  <Mazur> Scobos: I have returnèd.
07:07:42  <planetmaker> Arkenklo: it's using one nightly build
07:07:52  <planetmaker> Arkenklo: read at least
07:08:03  <planetmaker> @quickstart
07:08:05  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki -
07:09:19  <Ammler> hmm, "WC"-meeting?
07:09:29  <planetmaker> :-D
07:09:51  <planetmaker> I'm glad that I'm not the only one with that association ;-)
07:14:14  <Mazur> "WC"-meeting?   Where?
07:15:13  <Mazur> Oh, "World Cricket"?
07:15:14  <planetmaker> you need to know German in order to get the (bad) pun played on some nicks
07:15:36  <Mazur> I know about Klo.
07:16:03  <Mazur> Don't see the "meeting" part, my limited German fails there.
07:16:23  <planetmaker> look at the chat backlog and the nicklist
07:17:50  <Mazur> Yes, there are two instances of Klo  around, neither of which have a second part which yells "meeting" to me.
07:20:59  <Mazur> There's the Toilet Fish, if you do a bilingual pun on the one,  and the other one sounds like he's from Noah's ship.
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07:54:02  <Arkenklo> planetmaker: I haven't seen anywhere on the wiki specified that the server uses a nightly build, if there is one please direct me to it
07:54:46  <planetmaker> Arkenklo: please read the linked quickstart.
07:54:53  <planetmaker> It tells you how to get the nightly
07:57:54  <Arkenklo> indeed you are correct, I must have skimmed through and missed that part
07:59:13  <planetmaker> that's why it sais "read through the entire page"
07:59:30  <Mazur> s/sais/says/
07:59:42  <planetmaker> ^
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08:15:44  <planetmaker> Arkenklo: have you then now found out how to join? :-)
08:18:12  <Arkenklo> planetmaker: I've got 1.0.1, I can
08:18:14  <Arkenklo> planetmaker: I've got 1.0.1, I can't
08:18:26  <planetmaker> ?
08:18:33  <Arkenklo> Version mismatch
08:18:35  <planetmaker> @quickstart
08:18:37  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki -
08:19:00  <planetmaker> read the section on "getting in the game"
08:19:07  <Arkenklo> yeah, I know I can install nightly, but I'm more comfortable using my package manager
08:19:24  <planetmaker> well. then you won't be able to join this server
08:19:32  <Mazur> That will not get you into the Coop server, though.
08:19:47  * Mazur highfives pm.
08:19:52  <planetmaker> :-)
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08:20:39  <planetmaker> besides, Arkenklo, OpenTTD is as difficult to install as it is difficult to unzip a file
08:21:34  <planetmaker> and yes, you need exactly the same version as the server runs.
08:21:45  <Mazur> ArkenKlo: I have a general install of 1.0.1, with which I play Single Player games, and a special install, with a script to run it, which I run from a different user to join Coop.
08:22:02  <Arkenklo> I'm too impulsive for my own good, so it's best to keep all the pointless packages I install neatly organized
08:22:25  <Arkenklo> if I ever again want to play coop, I'll go through the hassle of setting up nightly
08:22:32  <Mazur> Then install it under a user coop, or something.
08:23:10  * planetmaker wonders what might be so problematic about having one additional directory in "my files"
08:23:29  <Mazur> 's No hassle, there are scripts somewhere on the server who do moss work automatically for you.
08:23:33  <Arkenklo> I have a habit of putting shit there and only using it once, ever
08:23:39  <Mazur> s/moss/most/
08:24:15  <Mazur> Arkenklo: I as well, only this time only once keeps going on and on and on.\
08:24:17  <Arkenklo> the hassle is remembering/documenting what method I used to install it
08:24:31  <planetmaker> if you're not comfortable with using nightlies there's nothing we can do for you
08:24:32  <Mazur> Make  script, likie I  did.
08:25:13  <planetmaker> with 1.0.1 you can play on our stable server - but that's hardly coop
08:25:50  <Arkenklo> Mazur: I probably will, but since this only is another one of my stay-up-late interest rages I'll refrain from doing anything to my system
08:25:55  <Mazur>
08:26:07  <planetmaker> :-)
08:26:29  <planetmaker> Arkenklo: there's a difference between "doing something to your system" and "unpacking a zip"
08:26:37  <planetmaker> OpenTTD does not NEED an install
08:26:50  <planetmaker> nor does the installer actually do more than run a simple unzip
08:27:30  <Mazur> All the mess in one single directory.
08:28:02  <Mazur> No interference with directories the system uses.
08:28:15  <planetmaker> Mazur: my OpenTTD 'mess' meanwhile streches over 5GB :-P - in numerous directories. But all within a single sub directory, though ;-)
08:28:25  <Mazur> My point.
08:29:09  <Mazur> But, pm: you have probably a lot of special stuff, things you design, the programs to design with,  numerous nightlies side by side...
08:29:42  <planetmaker> yeah, exactly
08:30:04  <Mazur> So I'd hardly put you forward as"typical".
08:30:06  <planetmaker> I basically have ~20 openttd versions flying around and the whole DevZone locally
08:30:08  <planetmaker> indeed
08:30:31  <planetmaker> But still I could delete everything with a single command :-)
08:30:39  <Mazur> Indeed.
08:30:41  <planetmaker> except my backups ;-)
08:30:56  <Mazur> I have 70 Mb in /usr/local/share/openttd
08:31:10  <Arkenklo> oh, very well
08:32:42  <Mazur> And while I remember mainframe hard disks smaller than that, nowadays 70 Mb is gnat-piddle.
08:35:21  <planetmaker> indeed
08:36:07  <Arkenklo> ugh. newgrf mismatch
08:36:31  <planetmaker> I'm usually also much more concerned with programmes which do need an install, Mazur :-) They then provide problems getting rid of.
08:36:53  <planetmaker> Arkenklo: yes, you need our grfpack as well as banans newgrfs
08:37:03  <Mazur> Yes, and tangle up dependencies, wrongly.
08:37:08  <Arkenklo> oh, the bananas as well
08:37:24  <Mazur> Well, we like to keep people healthy.
08:37:26  <planetmaker> needless to point out where that is described :-P
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08:40:54  <Arkenklo> wooo
08:41:23  <Nego> Morning
08:43:33  <planetmaker> moin Nego
08:43:39  <Arkenklo> holy massive network, batman
08:43:53  <Nego> i was wondering how come that i cannot join the public server? I have a version mismatch but i cant download the GFX files online?
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09:00:38  <Nego> someone who knows? :)
09:02:40  <planetmaker> Nego: version mismatch means wrong OpenTTD version
09:02:47  <planetmaker> and you need our grfpack, too
09:02:50  <planetmaker> @quickstart
09:02:52  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki -
09:04:47  <Nego> !dl win32
09:04:47  <PublicServer> Nego:
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09:15:22  <V453000> planetmaker: got all green block signals :) wee
09:15:27  <V453000> btw hi :)
09:15:33  <planetmaker> hey :-)
09:15:56  <Nego> !password
09:15:56  <PublicServer> Nego: abuser
09:16:07  <hylje> you abuser
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09:20:18  <V453000> !date
09:20:18  <PublicServer> V453000: 27 Oct 2334
09:20:20  <V453000> he
09:20:38  <PublicServer> <Nego> hey
09:28:26  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 000162C4:
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09:30:15  <Nego> omg, you guys build sick things whehe
09:32:24  <V453000> this game isnt that sick :)
09:32:59  <Arkenklo> s/sick/slick/ moar like this
09:32:59  <Nego> whehe, well im trying to learn it but sometimes its hard
09:33:11  <Nego> there is not much to read about real complex situations
09:33:11  <Arkenklo> btw, uh, how do you write signs?
09:34:41  <Nego> !password
09:34:41  <PublicServer> Nego: peered
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09:39:34  <Arkenklo> crap. I think I destroyed something. halp plx
09:40:33  <Arkenklo> Tesditch North, something is blocking the train
09:40:50  <pugi> !password
09:40:50  <PublicServer> pugi: peered
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09:42:45  <PublicServer> <pug> uhm...
09:43:03  <Arkenklo> I guess we'll have to
09:43:10  <Arkenklo> I guess we'll have to re-lay all the track
09:43:28  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00015CCD:
09:45:35  <PublicServer> <pug> you can create signals on the whole track when holding ctrl and dragging signal
09:45:53  <PublicServer> <Arkenklo> the whole track? I can only do straight sections
09:45:58  <PublicServer> <pug> hold ctrl
09:46:09  <PublicServer> <pug> try it
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09:46:18  <PublicServer> <Arkenklo> yeah, but I can't bend the line to accomodate the entire track
09:46:27  <PublicServer> <pug> you don't need to
09:46:31  <PublicServer> <pug> hold ctrl
09:46:50  <PublicServer> <pug> same for removing
09:47:04  <PublicServer> <pug> choose signals, click remove, hold ctrl and drag from one signal
09:47:40  <PublicServer> <Arkenklo> I still don't get how you do the entire track like that
09:47:54  <PublicServer> <Arkenklo> lemme try
09:48:39  <PublicServer> <Arkenklo> oh, is that a newgrf feature?
09:48:40  <PublicServer> <Nego> what is the problem from the train below?
09:48:42  <PublicServer> <pug> no
09:48:46  <PublicServer> <pug> openttd feature
09:49:10  <PublicServer> <pug> but it is still not working...
09:49:21  <PublicServer> <Arkenklo> yeah, that's odd
09:49:26  <PublicServer> <Nego> sorry guys, im just watching your progress
09:50:03  <PublicServer> <Arkenklo> maybe that's why it was a terminus to begin with
09:50:12  <PublicServer> <Arkenklo> some odd magic holding the trains back
09:50:15  <PublicServer> <pug> it should work
09:50:26  <PublicServer> <Nego> its a bug
09:51:14  <PublicServer> <Arkenklo> what the
09:51:30  <PublicServer> <Nego> you didnt used electric rail?
09:51:37  <PublicServer> <Nego> you could convert the track too ;-)
09:51:47  <PublicServer> <Arkenklo> oh, it was supposed to be erail
09:51:54  <PublicServer> <Arkenklo> facepalm
09:51:55  <PublicServer> <pug> ah..
09:51:56  <PublicServer> <pug> omg
09:52:06  <PublicServer> <Arkenklo> I've got that made invisible, sorry :D
09:52:34  <PublicServer> <pug> me too
09:52:39  <PublicServer> <pug> but we use never normal rail
09:52:54  <PublicServer> <Nego> i always prefer e-rail or m-rail
09:52:57  <PublicServer> <Arkenklo> speaking of that,  don't you ever upgrade your rail?
09:53:13  <PublicServer> <pug> to maglev or something?
09:53:16  <PublicServer> <Arkenklo> yeah
09:53:20  <PublicServer> <pug> no
09:53:25  <PublicServer> <Nego> i dont like maglev
09:53:26  <PublicServer> <pug> at first we choose a plan
09:53:36  <PublicServer> <Nego> annoying and almost impossible to see the intersections
09:53:37  <PublicServer> <pug> and if the plan says erail we use erail
09:53:40  <PublicServer> <Arkenklo> I guess building the system is the fun, not insane speed
09:53:47  <V453000> @quickstart
09:53:48  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki -
09:53:53  <V453000> dont bother pug :)
09:54:03  <pugi> :P
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10:02:50  <Tray> !password
10:02:50  <PublicServer> Tray: unpack
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10:07:39  <SmatZ> !clients
10:07:57  <SmatZ> !playercount
10:07:57  <PublicServer> SmatZ: Number of players: 2
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10:11:06  <pugi> builders board is huge :O
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10:11:47  * Arkenklo is a hero
10:12:22  <pugi> :O
10:13:04  <Arkenklo> yay, I layed down 50 metres of track
10:13:08  <Arkenklo> hurrah for me
10:13:33  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 000370D8:
10:13:50  <Arkenklo> well, time for me to go to bed u guize
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11:16:13  <Nego> !password
11:16:14  <PublicServer> Nego: feline
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12:28:42  <V453000> !password
12:28:42  <PublicServer> V453000: fatten
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12:30:35  <KloBass> !players
12:30:37  <PublicServer> KloBass: Client 1132 (Orange) is V453000, in company 1 (Landscape Friendly Coopers)
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14:35:50  <scobos> !players
14:35:51  <PublicServer> scobos: There are currently no clients connected to the server
14:37:05  <scobos> Mazur: going to be bouncing between two computers this morning, but if you're around I can show you what I have so far
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14:37:21  <Mazur> I'm here.
14:37:25  <scobos> oh hey
14:37:30  <Mazur> Hai.
14:37:46  <scobos> let me put it up
14:38:00  * Mazur had only just started watching Sea Patrol.
14:38:04  <Mazur> ;-)
14:38:17  <scobos> lol
14:38:24  <scobos> do you have the logic train newGRF?
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14:38:41  <Mazur> Must have, Il'ed them all.
14:38:44  <Mazur> dl
14:38:51  <Mazur> From BaNaNaS, right?
14:39:24  <scobos> I dunno, I got it straight from the client
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14:40:21  <scobos>
14:40:30  <scobos> it's very messy, but it works
14:40:45  <Mazur> Logic_Train-0.6.tar
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14:44:02  * scobos is making coffee
14:45:39  <Mazur> Indeed,  the principle is there, now it'd only need refining, like speeding up the delay, shortening the double track, fine-runing the signal offset.
14:45:55  <Mazur> s/runing/tuning/
14:47:21  <scobos> I couldn't wrap my head around a logic train based delay
14:47:29  <scobos> but I know there is one, using Timtabling
14:50:54  <scobos> still messy, but I stripped the tracks: File:CompacKerLogic.sav
14:51:00  <scobos> oops
14:51:07  <scobos>
14:51:27  <Mazur> You know what is funny?
14:51:31  <scobos> if you want to play around with it, just drop a combo on the NOT input, followed by tracks bringing back exits
14:51:39  <scobos> then read from the Trigger output
14:51:46  * scobos wonders what is funny
14:52:10  <planetmaker> oh oh, I hear Mark apprentices talking ;-)
14:52:13  * Mazur has himself never advanced beyond electric rails.
14:52:31  * planetmaker hopes that he'll never become a rail :-P
14:52:39  <scobos> planetmaker: who is Mark?
14:52:41  <scobos> is that Osai?
14:52:49  <planetmaker> nope. Mark is Mark :-)
14:52:56  <scobos> cheeky
14:52:56  <planetmaker> !users
14:52:56  <PublicServer> planetmaker:
14:53:01  * Mazur is not a Mark apprentice.
14:53:12  * Mazur has not met Mark, yet.
14:53:29  <planetmaker> Mazur, talking about all those logic networks, self-regulation and such: you must surely be ;-)
14:53:31  <Mazur> Unless you mean my brother of the same name.
14:53:45  <scobos> I am new to #openttdcoop just in the past week
14:53:55  <scobos> and new to openttd for 2 weeks
14:54:02  <planetmaker> But you'll have a hard time meeting him currently... he's off travelling.
14:54:03  <Mazur> I am new to TTD in the last month.
14:54:14  <scobos> I noticed that... 2012!
14:54:35  <Mazur> Coop is fun.
14:54:42  <scobos> I haven't tried it yet :-/
14:55:04  <scobos> I found this group through googling and spent a week reading everything
14:55:07  <Mazur> I got all my flaws pointed ouut one time or another. ;-)
14:55:09  <planetmaker> Mazur, I (re-)discovered OpenTTD in September. By late October I was nearly exclusively playing on this server ;-)
14:55:41  <KenjiE20> took me about 2 weeks of semi-regular MP before I was on this server
14:56:00  <planetmaker> yeah... about here, too :-) Just too adictive ;-)
14:56:22  <Mazur> I'm always wary of MP, because I've a non-competetive nature.
14:56:27  <planetmaker> and there's always one doing the tedious work ;-)
14:56:35  <KenjiE20> MINIONS!
14:56:36  <Mazur> SO Coop sounded like a dream come true.
14:56:40  <planetmaker> Mazur, yes. That's the good thing about this server :-)
14:56:48  <planetmaker> No competition. Just having joint fun...
14:56:52  <planetmaker> quite relaxing, I think
14:56:55  <Mazur> Indeed.
14:57:04  <planetmaker> :-)
14:57:25  <Mazur> ONe can ask someone to lend a hand when stuck, and exxplain, if they are inclined.
14:57:52  <planetmaker> yeah :-)
14:58:01  <planetmaker> great minds think alike :-)
14:58:07  <KenjiE20> or not
14:58:09  <KenjiE20> :P
14:58:10  <planetmaker> :-D
14:58:26  <Mazur> Instead of getting steamrollered into bankrujptcy before you even have your first line complete.
14:59:04  <Mazur> Though I developed a fairly good game-play in 1830.
14:59:25  <Mazur> I once even won.
14:59:33  <Mazur> And my friends are sharks.
15:00:12  <Mazur> Not a hair of sentimentality in them when it comes to competetive games.  :-)
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15:02:26  <planetmaker> :-)
15:02:39  <planetmaker> An occasional coopetition game can be fun, though
15:02:54  <planetmaker> It was e.g. quite fun to show that coop is still WAY superior to any AI.
15:03:14  <planetmaker> Meanwhile it's established that it's difficult to be bested by AIs, but ... :-)
15:03:34  <planetmaker> but they get better. Maybe it could be re-played :-)
15:04:09  <planetmaker> or once I joined with two, three fellow coopers one of those goal servers.
15:04:46  <planetmaker> The others quit the game when they noticed that they stand no chance :-)
15:05:04  <planetmaker> Coop so really teaches good competitive behaviour :-) - and what works and what not
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15:15:32  <avdg> !players
15:15:34  <PublicServer> avdg: There are currently no clients connected to the server
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15:25:49  <Ryt0n> !info
15:25:50  <PublicServer> Ryt0n: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Landscape Friendly Coopers'  Year Founded: 1950  Money: 15266862997  Loan: 0  Value: 15270797880  (T:851, R:166, P:3, S:0) unprotected
15:25:54  <Ryt0n> pff still the same one :p
15:26:43  <avdg> last save comes from 12o'clock :p
15:27:09  <avdg>;O=D
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15:33:44  <avdg> !password
15:33:44  <PublicServer> avdg: glades
15:33:53  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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15:37:39  <scobos> !players
15:37:41  <PublicServer> scobos: Client 1133 is avdg, a spectator
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15:43:57  <Benny_> "info
15:43:59  <Benny_> !info
15:43:59  <PublicServer> Benny_: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Landscape Friendly Coopers'  Year Founded: 1950  Money: 15266862997  Loan: 0  Value: 15270797880  (T:851, R:166, P:3, S:0) unprotected
15:44:04  <Benny_> ...What
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16:33:51  <XeryusTC> !dl win64
16:33:52  <PublicServer> XeryusTC:
16:36:12  <avdg> hey
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16:42:30  <Nego> !password
16:42:30  <PublicServer> Nego: rubbed
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17:02:53  <scobos> watching Britain's Got Talent clips makes me depressed
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17:46:32  <maza> hey, does someone know a good article about basics of competetive play of openttd?
17:47:23  <planetmaker> in #openttdcoop? ;-)
17:48:18  <planetmaker> you basically just have to apply all those dirty tricks which we use ;-) Especially when building a MM
17:49:38  <avdg> !help
17:49:38  <PublicServer> avdg:
17:50:03  <Ammler> coopers are also the best competive players
17:50:52  <Qanael> I always have trouble playing competitively cause I embark on huge expensive projects and usually can't get my money back in time
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18:06:01  <ODM> Ammler, are we? hmm
18:08:51  <maza> planetmaker: well, yeah. I've always just build slowly a nice network, never actually tried to be good at the game
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18:17:44  <Ammler> well, we won every competition game
18:18:28  <Ammler> and there is no brave player anymore, who would compete us.
18:18:41  <pugi> :D
18:18:54  <avdg> bots? :p
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18:49:31  <LittleBoyRick> !password
18:49:31  <PublicServer> LittleBoyRick: retype
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19:02:58  <Ammler> YES
19:04:45  <Ammler> we pwn Canada :-)
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19:11:00  <Razmir> !dl win64
19:11:00  <PublicServer> Razmir:
19:11:21  <avdg1> !password
19:11:22  <PublicServer> avdg1: repose
19:11:34  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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19:13:48  <PublicServer> <avdg> hey
19:13:56  <PublicServer> *** avdg has joined company #1
19:13:57  <PublicServer> <Razmir> hi
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19:20:33  <PublicServer> <Razmir> I will just look how it moves :)
19:22:43  <XeryusTC> !password
19:22:43  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: sniper
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19:23:02  <PublicServer> <avdg> hey XeryusTC
19:23:21  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hello
19:23:35  <scobos> !players
19:23:36  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, still the same game :)
19:23:36  <PublicServer> scobos: Client 1139 (Orange) is avdg, in company 1 (Landscape Friendly Coopers)
19:23:36  <PublicServer> scobos: Client 1141 (Orange) is Razmir, in company 1 (Landscape Friendly Coopers)
19:23:36  <PublicServer> scobos: Client 1143 (Orange) is XeryusTC, in company 1 (Landscape Friendly Coopers)
19:23:40  <PublicServer> <avdg> yeah :(
19:24:03  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> well, i get to see the result :D
19:25:07  <Chris_Booth> !screenshot
19:25:14  <Chris_Booth> !screen
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19:26:32  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> heh, wp factory south is still in use
19:26:52  <PublicServer> <avdg> ?
19:27:05  <PublicServer> <avdg> sign?
19:28:29  <PublicServer> <avdg> humm found
19:28:39  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0000D5BF:
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19:34:45  <XeryusTC> !rcon patch max_trains
19:34:45  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Current value for 'max_trains' is: '900' (min: 0, max: 5000)
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19:37:44  <Fixer> tneo: o.O
19:38:09  <Fixer> hi all
19:38:17  <PublicServer> <avdg> hi Fixer
19:38:19  <tneo> what Fixer
19:39:43  <Fixer> just saw same name on another irc...
19:40:07  * KenjiE20 suspects a lot of us use the same nick
19:40:57  <tneo> i think Fixer is a spam bot
19:41:06  <KenjiE20> FYI stable is over in #openttdcoop.stable
19:41:11  <Fixer> where?
19:41:46  <Fixer> i got IRC via special gateway
19:41:53  <Fixer> from jabber
19:42:04  <KenjiE20> O.o
19:42:11  <XeryusTC> I got special IRC for you, special price, you get free gateway too
19:42:18  <Fixer> :-)
19:42:26  <XeryusTC> [/russian accent]
19:43:14  <KenjiE20> comparethemeerkat
19:43:41  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00017F9B:
19:46:01  <Fixer> gateway means you can join from one network IM to another (Jabber-ICQ, Jabber-IRC, Jabber-MSN)
19:46:47  <KenjiE20> jabber isn't really a very good transport mech
19:46:52  <XeryusTC> or you just call it a multiple protocal client :P
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19:47:18  <Fixer> no... 'multiprotocolity' provides server
19:47:36  <KenjiE20> that's the silliest name I've heard in a while
19:47:45  <Fixer> but pidgin is real multiprotocol IM for example
19:48:12  <XeryusTC> i was just thinking that Arkenklo sounds klunky, but multiprotocolity is just odd :P
19:48:13  <KenjiE20> that reminds me, I should give bitlbee a go some time
19:48:29  <Fixer> is that any posibility that tneo is from South Africa? :p
19:48:41  <KenjiE20> no
19:48:42  <XeryusTC> Fixer: so you use jabber IM to bridge into IRC then?
19:49:00  <Fixer> jabber is my primary im but i got few irc rooms too
19:49:26  <tneo> none Fixer
19:49:53  * Fixer sits in rooms with 2 tneo
19:50:36  <tneo> and where would that be?
19:50:57  <Fixer> i will not say :p
19:52:06  <tneo> ooooh
19:52:12  <Arkenklo> why do I see depots sprinkled here and there on the SL's?
19:52:24  <XeryusTC> to be able to create trains
19:52:30  <KenjiE20> ^
19:52:45  * XeryusTC winks suggestive into V453000's direction
19:52:49  <Arkenklo> why so many?
19:52:58  <XeryusTC> to create them near to their destination
19:53:02  <KenjiE20> same reason there are so many SLs
19:53:13  <Arkenklo> well alrighty then
19:53:46  <XeryusTC> you can create trains at the service centres on the ML, but there are only one or two of them so you will create trains a long way away from their destination
19:54:03  <Arkenklo> also, if I connect a new station, I don't have to occupy it with trains?
19:54:10  <PublicServer> Saving game...
19:54:30  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> no, you must build trains for it
19:54:39  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> where possible (ie, the train limit has not been reached)
19:58:31  <PublicServer> <avdg> SLH08 is hell
19:58:43  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0002C90E:
19:58:47  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> great isn't it :D
19:59:47  <PublicServer> <avdg> hub needs some rework first, to handle big(ger) traffic
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20:04:30  <Zaitzev> evening
20:04:36  <PublicServer> <avdg> hi
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20:06:30  <XeryusTC> KenjiE20: fancy some TMUF?
20:06:48  <KenjiE20> in EVE atm, just got back playing earlier today
20:06:57  <XeryusTC> hmm, ok :o
20:07:02  <KenjiE20> back up to mid 5000s
20:07:08  <KenjiE20> from 6900s
20:07:12  <XeryusTC> i hope i can stay connected to the same server for more than half a map though xD
20:07:15  <XeryusTC> and get some points again
20:07:25  <XeryusTC> i'm back in the 71ks :P
20:07:33  <KenjiE20> hehe
20:07:45  <KenjiE20> I have more points than your rank :P
20:10:14  <XeryusTC> hehe lol
20:10:21  <XeryusTC> i've been out of it for a while though
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20:14:26  <avdg> !password
20:14:26  <PublicServer> avdg: grease
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20:19:44  <Razaekel> TMUF?
20:19:55  <KenjiE20> TrackMania United Forever
20:20:02  <Razaekel> oh
20:20:05  <Razaekel> i played that
20:20:08  <Razaekel> sucked at it
20:24:30  <Razaekel> this sucks
20:24:38  <Razaekel> OTTDAU is permanently broken or something
20:24:39  <Razaekel> >.>
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20:29:38  <Razaekel> !password
20:29:38  <PublicServer> Razaekel: caviar
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20:31:34  <KenjiE20> screw it
20:31:40  * KenjiE20 launches TMUF
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20:44:31  <Razaekel> !dl win64
20:44:32  <PublicServer> Razaekel:
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21:15:12  <PublicServer> <avdg> Arkenklo: doing something?
21:15:32  <PublicServer> <avdg> I'm leaving
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21:20:58  <Arkenklo> avdg: nah, just idling
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21:29:15  <Benny_> !info
21:29:15  <PublicServer> Benny_: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Landscape Friendly Coopers'  Year Founded: 1950  Money: 16043083542  Loan: 0  Value: 16046691516  (T:844, R:172, P:3, S:0) unprotected
21:31:00  <Benny_> Guess I'll finally get around to testing version 1.0.0 then...
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21:36:21  <Arkenklo> what's the benefit of a RL_RL ML compared to a RR_LL?
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21:36:53  <StM> !download
21:36:53  <PublicServer> StM: !download autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|win32|win64|win9x
21:36:58  <StM> !download win64
21:36:58  <PublicServer> StM:
21:42:15  <theholyduck> Arkenklo, variety
21:42:28  <theholyduck> Arkenklo, also, some structures become marginally easier to build
21:42:54  <theholyduck> for instance with a LL you have to space out the lines to merge onto them
21:43:01  <theholyduck> with a LR LR you dont
21:43:10  <StM> !download win32
21:43:10  <PublicServer> StM:
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21:48:35  <StM> !password
21:48:35  <PublicServer> StM: felled
21:51:48  <Arkenklo> since there are no safety messures to join the server, don't you ever get an asshole that just deletes the entire ML?
21:52:48  <Arkenklo> s/mess/mes/
21:52:53  <Benny_> There are safety measures.
21:53:02  <Benny_> This whole IRC thing, you know.
21:53:23  <Arkenklo> still, there's nothing stopping anyone from deleting anything
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21:53:49  <Arkenklo> and it's not that hard to make yourself anonymous
21:53:54  <Benny> People still have to be arsed to join IRC and get the password though.
21:54:58  <Benny> I guess people try to not be assholes when they see how professional and complete everything is as well.
21:55:00  <pugi> Arkenklo: game is being autosaved every 15 minutes
21:55:04  <pugi> or something like that
21:55:07  <Arkenklo> pugi: oh
21:55:09  <Arkenklo> I see
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21:55:20  <pugi> and we can see who did what in logs
21:55:30  <pugi> well, the admins can, i can't :P
21:55:35  <Benny> Ahh, didn't know that. :O
21:55:35  <Arkenklo> so it
21:55:49  <Arkenklo> so it's basically only a pain as long as it takes to restore it
21:55:59  <pugi> yes
21:58:25  <planetmaker> Arkenklo: let's say it works quite well.
21:58:40  <planetmaker> If you should feel to test it - we will find out and bans will be permanent
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21:59:05  <planetmaker> we know who did what ingame. To the second
21:59:10  <planetmaker> if we need to know
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21:59:20  <pugi> :)
21:59:27  <Arkenklo> that's nice to know
21:59:54  <Arkenklo> so if I accidentally the ML I haven't destroyed months of work
22:00:09  <pugi> yeah
22:00:24  <pugi> i forgot the link to the backup folder... but it exists
22:00:28  <pugi> @backups
22:00:30  <pugi> @backup
22:00:33  <pugi> hmm
22:00:33  <pugi> ^^
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22:03:34  <pugi> ah okay ^^
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22:04:10  <pugi>;O=D
22:04:11  <pugi> this :D
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22:10:48  <Arkenklo> the ore/town drop prios are impressive
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22:41:46  <Fixer> LOL. what a traffic jam
22:42:03  <Fixer> V453000: you here?
22:42:12  <V453000> kind of
22:42:30  <Fixer> some very long traffic jam here
22:42:39  <V453000> not now
22:43:32  <Fixer> send someone on map pls :p
22:44:19  <learningottd> its a very nice jam
22:44:49  * XeryusTC fondles V453000 
22:44:52  <Fixer> very large
22:44:59  <Fixer> they all stop :D
22:45:01  <V453000> send someone :D
22:45:09  <Arkenklo> uh, where?
22:45:11  <V453000> @dict fondles
22:45:11  <learningottd> no please wait to see how long it can get
22:45:12  <Fixer> that's total disaster
22:45:13  <Webster> V453000: No definition for "fondles" could be found in wn
22:45:18  <V453000> @dict fondle
22:45:19  <Webster> V453000: wn: fondle v : touch lightly and with affection, with brushing motions; "He stroked his long beard" [syn: {stroke}]
22:45:24  <V453000> he
22:45:37  <V453000> sideways
22:46:04  <XeryusTC> heh
22:46:09  <XeryusTC> odd that the dict talks about beards
22:46:19  <XeryusTC> i've seen fondling mostly done to breasts :o
22:46:33  <V453000> ::-D
22:47:15  <Fixer> i found the problem imho
22:47:27  <Fixer> Arnshausen
22:47:35  <V453000> you are fixer, fix it
22:47:45  <Fixer> :O
22:47:58  <Arkenklo> are we talking about the same map here? I see no jam
22:47:58  <Fixer> i'm a beginner
22:48:09  <V453000> really bad choice of nickname :PPP
22:48:46  <Fixer> V453000: it has password
22:49:01  <XeryusTC> !ip
22:49:01  <PublicServer> XeryusTC:
22:49:03  <XeryusTC> !port
22:49:19  <Fixer> 1 train cycling left right near platform and blocking all?
22:49:44  <XeryusTC> !password
22:49:44  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: pawing
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22:49:58  <learningottd> "SL01 to east" something wrong with the area there
22:49:59  <Fixer> V453000: gray company lost over 60% of deliveries
22:50:17  <V453000> you are in a wrong IRC channel
22:50:28  <V453000> #openttdcoop.stable is the one you are talking about
22:50:37  <Fixer> V453000: me?
22:50:41  <XeryusTC> Fixer: yes you
22:50:44  <Fixer> ok
22:50:55  <XeryusTC> #openttdcoop is for PublicServer talkings
22:51:37  * Arkenklo joins .stable, I want to see the jam :d
22:51:37  <Ammler> #openttdcoop is for #openttdcoop talking
22:51:38  <Arkenklo> :D
22:51:51  <Ammler> :-)
22:52:28  <Fixer> Arkenklo: go faster :p
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22:53:00  <Fixer> it is just huge, deliveres go down imho 80% now
22:53:19  <XeryusTC> Fixer: still the wrong channel
22:53:23  <V453000> Fixer: this is a channel for mentally ill people and people with other madness/insane brains
22:53:41  <Fixer> moving now
22:53:52  <XeryusTC> get a proper irc client :P
22:54:01  <Fixer> what's wrong?
22:54:11  <V453000> welcome among us :D
22:55:37  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh lol at !bottleneck
22:57:22  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> crap xD
22:59:00  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00018399:
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23:00:58  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> 2 in a row xD
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23:04:54  <Ammler> !rcon set autosave
23:04:54  <PublicServer> Ammler: Current value for 'autosave' is: '1' (min: 0, max: 4)
23:07:11  <XeryusTC> !gap 10 4
23:07:11  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 10 and gap 4.
23:07:15  <XeryusTC> !gap 4 10
23:07:15  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 4 and gap 10.
23:08:01  <Arkenklo> !gap 4 16
23:08:02  <PublicServer> Arkenklo: You need 3 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 4 and gap 16.
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23:13:33  <Arkenklo> does trainlength 4 mean 8 wagons?
23:14:02  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0000D1B5:
23:14:11  <XeryusTC> yes
23:14:13  <XeryusTC> 4 tiles
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23:29:04  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 0000D5C4:
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