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(http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png) 08:08:07 *** roboboy has quit IRC 08:11:20 *** heffer has joined #openttdcoop 08:12:46 *** mrruben5 has left #openttdcoop 08:28:43 *** Mitcian has joined #openttdcoop 08:33:20 *** KloBass has quit IRC 08:40:50 *** Mitcian has quit IRC 08:48:45 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 08:55:43 *** heffer has quit IRC 08:56:47 *** heffer has joined #openttdcoop 09:06:13 *** Mark has joined #openttdcoop 09:06:31 <Mark> 'lo 09:07:47 <V453000> heyy 09:07:48 <V453000> :) 09:08:01 <V453000> how are kangaroos? :) 09:09:40 <Mark> hehe 09:09:43 <Mark> good for eating 09:09:56 <V453000> and you? :) 09:09:57 <Mark> i just had a kangaroo curry this evening 09:10:02 <Mark> great aswell 09:10:03 <V453000> :D 09:10:04 <V453000> ok 09:10:05 <Mark> finally did some work 09:10:07 <V453000> :) 09:10:09 <V453000> what kind? 09:10:10 <Mark> how are you? 09:10:16 <V453000> im ... just fine :) 09:10:21 <Mark> pumpkin picking, i'm driving the tractor though 09:10:25 <V453000> :) 09:10:33 <Mark> including air-con and stereo system :) 09:10:37 <V453000> nice :D 09:10:43 <Mark> sure is 09:10:52 <Mark> hell of a lot better than the actual picking 09:10:58 <V453000> yeah :) 09:11:03 <V453000> kinda hi-tech tractors :d 09:11:20 <Mark> harvest will be completed in a week or so though, i'll probably pick oranges after that 09:11:33 <V453000> tractoring again? :P 09:11:42 <Mark> probably not :P 09:11:48 <V453000> :) 09:12:06 <Mark> btw, awesome job on the sbahn article 09:12:14 <V453000> wow, thanks :) 09:13:34 <V453000> it should be particularly useful in this upcoming game ... we have a pax one 09:13:34 <Mark> :) 09:13:38 <Mark> oh nice 09:13:42 <V453000> the last one was a bit ... well ... not-so-good 09:13:49 <Mark> im downloading the grfpack already :P 09:13:50 <V453000> so I am trying to improve that :) 09:13:59 <Mark> what last one? 09:14:01 <Mark> your revue? 09:14:06 <V453000> nah 09:14:09 <V453000> the last pax game 09:14:13 <V453000> 174 09:14:17 <Mark> oh right 09:14:17 <Ammler> \o Mark 09:14:28 <Mark> hiya Ammler :) 09:14:33 <Ammler> hehe, installing openttd on a public pc :-) 09:14:50 <Mark> why not :) 09:14:51 <Ammler> after Down Under, you are installing pro :-P 09:14:58 <Mark> i already am :P 09:15:05 <V453000> :D 09:15:24 <Ammler> oh, true, you are :-) 09:16:10 *** roboboy has joined #openttdcoop 09:16:37 <V453000> !password 09:16:37 <PublicServer> V453000: testes 09:16:53 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 09:17:14 <Ammler> oh, V453000 found imageing from Osai :-) 09:17:28 <V453000> imageing from Osai? 09:17:45 <PublicServer> *** Mark joined the game 09:17:57 <PublicServer> <Mark> pretty big for a pax game 09:18:06 <PublicServer> <Mark> though a lot of it is water, that helps 09:18:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> 1024x256 09:18:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> not that unordinary :) 09:18:21 <Ammler> V453000: the rotating of the maps 09:18:22 <PublicServer> <Mark> in 140 we managed to lag a 256^2 :P 09:18:30 <PublicServer> <Mark> or something 140ish 09:18:35 <V453000> Ammler: yea, very useful :) 09:18:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> Mark: 157 was 256*256 09:18:55 <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah that one 09:18:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> 140 was larger I think 09:18:58 <PublicServer> <Mark> the one without orders :P 09:19:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> yea 09:19:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> 157 09:19:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> awesome game 09:19:07 <PublicServer> <Mark> indeed 09:19:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> one of the most unique games of all time ... because repeating that would be just weak :) 09:19:44 <PublicServer> <Mark> hehe 09:20:26 <PublicServer> <Mark> i'd love to claim an island in this one :P 09:20:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 09:21:07 <PublicServer> <Mark> Fort Trunbury isl would be mine 09:21:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh yea :) 09:22:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> I am looking forward to see this game run :) because the US trainset ICE are just ... god ... so good :) 09:22:33 <Ammler> @psg 157 09:22:33 <Webster> Ammler: (psg <no arguments>) -- Returns full name and reference url (if defined) 09:22:37 <PublicServer> *** Max| joined the game 09:22:46 <V453000> @psgsave 157 09:22:46 <Webster> PSG 157 Archive entry; http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/PublicServer:Archive_-_Games_151_-_160#gameid_157 09:22:49 <V453000> :p 09:22:53 <PublicServer> <Mark> are those the sunset ones? 09:22:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah 09:23:04 <PublicServer> <Mark> they're nice 09:23:27 *** KloBass has joined #openttdcoop 09:23:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> they look awesome, go 321kmh, and have endless power ... besides instant loading times and compatibility with doubledeckers ... :D what to add 09:23:47 <PublicServer> <Mark> hehe 09:25:23 <Ammler> @psg 09:25:23 <Webster> psg: Public Server Game 09:25:31 <Ammler> so what's that? 09:25:35 <V453000> ? 09:25:51 <Ammler> don't get that command 09:26:09 <V453000> @psg isnt a command afaik 09:26:22 <V453000> @psgsave is a command for the archive links 09:26:32 <V453000> @psgsave 09:26:32 <Webster> V453000: (psgsave <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "echo PSG Archive entry; [squish http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/PublicServer:Archive_-_Games_ [math calc (floor((-1)/10)*10)+1]_-_[math calc ((floor((-1)/10)+1)*10)]#gameid_]". 09:26:48 <V453000> o_O 09:26:53 <V453000> alias? :D 09:28:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> btw I already figured out how to make a good japanese grf config, so next pax is japan for sure :) 09:28:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> with maglev shinkansens, just as in the old times :) 09:28:53 <Ammler> that isn't maglve 09:29:13 <Ammler> shinkansen is like european standard gauge 09:29:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> the point is they are on remade-maglev tracks 09:29:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> in the 2.0 and higher versions of japan train set they are on monorail 09:29:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> making their acceleration drop drastically 09:29:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> and increasing CLs by 1 09:29:48 <Mark> CL2.5 at 300kmh :P 09:29:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> yea 09:29:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> that just rox 09:29:59 <Ammler> that is a good thing :-) 09:30:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> what else could you want for a pax chaos than CL2 and ~good acceleration :) 09:33:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> you should have been here for the last game Mark :) 09:33:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> was fun 09:33:58 <Mark> last game looked nice indeed 09:34:10 <Mark> i'll download the final save in a bit 09:35:06 <V453000> it was a great bunch of fun to plan too 09:35:21 <Mark> @psgsave 186 09:35:21 <Webster> PSG 186 Archive entry; http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/PublicServer:Archive_-_Games_181_-_190#gameid_186 09:35:28 <V453000> the refit orders make bad things sometimes :) 09:35:54 <Mark> holland-denmark in a bit 09:35:57 <Mark> should be fun 09:36:00 <V453000> :) 09:36:11 <Mark> the australians actually thought they stood a chance against germany :P 09:36:17 <Mark> glad they got their asses kicked 09:36:40 <V453000> :-D 09:37:13 <Ammler> last win for 09:37:17 <PublicServer> *** Mark has left the game (leaving) 09:37:17 <Ammler> Germany ;-) 09:37:21 <V453000> I dont really watch football 09:37:24 <V453000> :) 09:37:43 <Ammler> football and beer don't collide 09:37:53 <Mark> i usually dont either, but i dont have anything else to do here :P 09:38:14 <V453000> Ammler: they dont have anything in common either :p 09:38:14 <Mark> im not getting up at 4.30 to watch the matches though 09:38:21 <V453000> oh :) 09:38:55 <Ammler> V453000: I can't watch football without 09:39:11 <V453000> I can drink beer without :) 09:39:17 <Ammler> hehe 09:39:27 <Mark> V453000: last game looks nice, i've always liked the ML in valley concept 09:39:29 <Ammler> hmm, soccer* 09:39:29 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 09:39:41 <V453000> Mark: absolutely :) 09:39:45 *** roboboy has quit IRC 09:39:56 <Mark> Ammler: i yesterday almost started a riot by calling it soccer :P 09:40:33 <V453000> :D 09:40:53 <V453000> Mark: I actually think that it is the reason why to play arctic :) awesome landscapes 09:40:54 <Ammler> well, isn't football that silly american sport? 09:41:13 <V453000> i think it isnt 09:41:20 <V453000> soccer is the silly one 09:41:29 <V453000> afaik ... but im a football noob :) 09:41:45 <Ammler> I guess, it depends on the coutry then 09:41:56 <Mark> soccer is the american/australian word for what england calls football 09:42:06 <V453000> oh 09:42:07 <V453000> :) 09:42:13 <Mark> america and australia call rugby football 09:42:17 <V453000> that sounds true 09:42:27 <Ammler> england doesn't? 09:42:37 <Mark> what? 09:42:42 <Mark> england calls it rugby 09:42:48 <Ammler> call "real" football soccer 09:42:52 <Mark> the sport with the egg-shaped ball :P 09:43:19 <Mark> Ammler: england calls the sport with the round ball football 09:43:38 <V453000> just stupid thing with a ball ... any :) 09:44:53 <Ammler> he, wikipedia tell, that Australia changed it at 2005 09:45:33 <Ammler> only USA, Canada and Samoa left, which call it soccer 09:46:06 <Mark> Ammler: perhaps officially, but they still call it soccer 09:46:15 <Mark> their national team is called the socceroos 09:46:30 <Ammler> Mark: that is understandable, it needs some years :-) 09:47:36 <V453000> xD 09:47:39 <V453000> socceroos :D 09:47:40 <V453000> :D 09:48:03 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 09:48:57 <Ammler> [11:39] <Mark> Ammler: i yesterday almost started a riot by calling it soccer  <-- s/soccer/football/ ? 09:49:21 <Mark> Ammler: there's a lot of english guys in the hostel 09:49:50 <Paul2> tbh soccer is just wrong. It's football. The sooner stupid people realise the better. 09:50:18 <Ammler> Mark: Paul2 just confirmed ^ ;-) 09:50:29 <Mark> wha? 09:50:51 <Ammler> Paul2: is a uk guy 09:50:56 <Paul2> No rioting. Just trying to make the internet right, one IRC channel at a time 09:51:03 <Ammler> :-D 09:52:05 <Paul2> http://www.fifa.com/index.html <- note how many times they reference football (many) vs soccer (once for beach soccer, which is different) 09:52:06 <Webster> Title: FIFA.com - Fédération Internationale de Football Association (FIFA) (at www.fifa.com) 09:52:20 <Mark> !password 09:52:20 <PublicServer> Mark: veneer 09:52:33 <Ammler> Paul2: for "facts", I prefer wikipedia 09:52:36 <PublicServer> *** Mark joined the game 09:52:50 <Mark> that's an interesting statement :P 09:53:42 <Paul2> Ammler: you prefer wikipedia, the site known for being filled by trolls changing things, or FIFA the international body for this sport (whatever you choose to call it). 09:54:11 <Ammler> Paul2: well, it is still "more" true 09:54:21 <Paul2> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifa you can read that instead if you like :) 09:54:22 <Webster> Title: FIFA - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) 09:55:19 <V453000> :D 09:56:18 <Ammler> [11:45] <Ammler> only USA, Canada and Samoa left, which call it soccer <-- already did 09:58:38 <Mark> !unpause 09:58:38 <PublicServer> Mark: you must be channel op to use !unpause 09:58:40 <Mark> @op 09:59:01 <Mark> @op 09:59:01 *** Webster sets mode: +o Mark 09:59:05 <Mark> !unpause 09:59:06 <PublicServer> *** Mark has unpaused the server. (Use !auto to set it back.) 10:00:17 <V453000> posting a plan? :) 10:00:31 <PublicServer> <Mark> yep 10:00:54 <V453000> awesome 10:00:55 <V453000> :) 10:00:57 <V453000> !password 10:00:57 <PublicServer> V453000: dismay 10:01:09 <Ammler> !screen 10:01:11 <PublicServer> *** Ammler made screenshot at 000056CE: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000056CE.png 10:02:03 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 10:02:04 <V453000> !auto 10:02:04 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has enabled autopause mode. 10:02:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 10:09:34 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000000: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00000000.png 10:09:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 10:10:34 <PublicServer> <Mark> there we go 10:10:41 <PublicServer> <Mark> oh i got a vote already, thanks :P 10:11:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 10:11:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> tbh I was thinking about the exact same thing :) 10:11:43 <PublicServer> <Mark> hehe 10:12:06 <PublicServer> <Mark> well im about to be kicked out of this place, so, bye bye :) 10:12:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh 10:12:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> cya :) 10:12:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> nice to see you :) 10:12:26 <PublicServer> <Mark> might be back later in the week to claim an island :P 10:12:30 <V453000> :) 10:12:34 <PublicServer> <Mark> was good seeing you too 10:12:36 <V453000> I will reserve it for you 10:12:38 <PublicServer> *** Mark has left the game (leaving) 10:12:43 <Mark> nah dont bother 10:12:46 <Mark> i might not be on at all 10:12:56 <Mark> thanks for the offer anyway :) 10:12:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh 10:13:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> okay :) 10:16:37 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 10:16:51 <Mark> holy.. 10:17:12 <Mark> looks like holland's got a liberal-nationalist parliament now 10:17:36 <Mark> glad i'm not around 10:17:41 <Mark> anyway, bye bye 10:17:50 *** Mark has quit IRC 10:19:16 <V453000> crazy dutchies and their politicians :) 10:24:32 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 10:26:48 *** Mitcian has joined #openttdcoop 10:47:52 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 10:47:52 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 10:52:44 *** ralph_ has joined #openttdcoop 10:52:52 <ralph_> !password 10:52:52 <PublicServer> ralph_: oracle 10:54:06 *** Mazur has joined #openttdcoop 10:54:51 <ralph_> !password 10:54:51 <PublicServer> ralph_: roding 10:55:23 <PublicServer> *** ralph joined the game 10:55:52 *** Barbaar has joined #openttdcoop 10:57:09 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 10:58:31 <PublicServer> *** Barbaar joined the game 10:59:54 <PublicServer> *** Barbaar has left the game (leaving) 11:00:56 *** brother- has joined #openttdcoop 11:01:06 <PublicServer> *** ralph has left the game (leaving) 11:01:19 *** ralph_ has quit IRC 11:02:53 *** brother- has left #openttdcoop 11:08:23 *** Wouterr has joined #openttdcoop 11:08:31 <Wouterr> !password 11:08:31 <PublicServer> Wouterr: roding 11:08:39 <PublicServer> *** Wouterr joined the game 11:08:57 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> afternoon all 11:10:56 <Yso> !password 11:10:56 <PublicServer> Yso: flails 11:11:04 <PublicServer> *** Yso joined the game 11:12:22 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 11:12:24 <PublicServer> *** Wouterr has left the game (leaving) 11:12:58 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 11:14:03 *** perk11 has quit IRC 11:16:33 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 11:22:57 <PublicServer> *** Yso has joined company #1 11:36:35 <Mazur> Oh, new version. 11:39:31 <Wouterr> hey mazur 11:40:39 <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game 11:40:47 <Mazur> Hi. 11:46:24 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (connection lost) 11:51:32 *** KloBass has quit IRC 11:58:57 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 12:01:40 *** KloBass has joined #openttdcoop 12:01:57 <PublicServer> *** Yso has left the game (leaving) 12:06:25 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 12:06:25 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 12:10:29 *** jondisti has joined #openttdcoop 12:25:58 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 12:32:45 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 12:32:56 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 12:32:56 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 12:55:43 <Wouterr> !password 12:55:43 <PublicServer> Wouterr: mating 12:55:53 <PublicServer> *** Wouterr joined the game 12:58:23 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 12:58:27 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Fuco 12:58:30 <Wouterr> @wiki New Votesystem 12:58:33 <Webster> New Votesystem - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Special:Search?go=Go&search=New%20Votesystem 12:58:58 <Wouterr> i guess we will need to use this voting system to get a result on this game :) 13:01:10 <Yso> !password 13:01:10 <PublicServer> Yso: mating 13:01:17 <PublicServer> *** Barbaar joined the game 13:01:20 <PublicServer> *** Yso joined the game 13:02:32 <PublicServer> *** Barbaar has left the game (leaving) 13:03:08 *** Intexon has joined #openttdcoop 13:07:37 <PublicServer> *** Intexon joined the game 13:08:50 <planetmaker> what. Did someone use the anti-social voting system in this PSG?! 13:09:18 <Wouterr> no 13:09:33 <planetmaker> I consider the "New Votesystem" to be just that. 13:09:34 <Wouterr> i was sugesting it :) 13:09:39 <planetmaker> don't ;-) 13:09:54 <Yso> i dared to make a plan, feel free to hate it instantly :) 13:11:01 <Ammler> how does anti-social voting work? 13:11:08 <V453000> you vote who you hate 13:11:11 <planetmaker> that's exactly the point: there's no point to vote-out a plan 13:11:12 <Wouterr> by voting against a plan 13:11:18 <planetmaker> it just gives bad carma 13:11:27 <V453000> planetmaker: it isnt a bad solution actually imo 13:11:40 <planetmaker> it is IMHO 13:11:50 <Ammler> :-) 13:12:03 <Ammler> hmm, I hate XeryusTC, does he have a plan? 13:12:04 <PublicServer> *** Wouterr has left the game (connection lost) 13:12:12 *** zody has joined #openttdcoop 13:12:13 <V453000> -.- 13:12:16 * Mazur already has. 13:12:18 <planetmaker> it's just seemingly easy for those who cannot make up their mind or justify a descision 13:12:28 <Ammler> :-) 13:12:31 <planetmaker> then they can say "you do it wrong!" 13:12:35 <Barbaar> can't we do a revote between the top plans? 13:12:37 <planetmaker> instead of "this is nice because..." 13:12:39 <Ammler> sorry, I shouldn't make it unserious :-P 13:12:51 <PublicServer> *** Owen joined the game 13:13:54 *** Wouterr_ has joined #openttdcoop 13:13:54 <V453000> !screen 13:13:54 <PublicServer> *** V453000 liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png) 13:14:20 <Wouterr_> !password 13:14:20 <PublicServer> Wouterr_: palest 13:14:28 <PublicServer> *** Wouterr joined the game 13:15:57 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 13:16:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh lol 13:16:05 <Wouterr_> so much interesting plans 13:16:05 <planetmaker> so I basically hate the "new voting" for these two reasons: a) no need to think about plans during vote b) it tells people they / their work sucks which is bad per se, if not done for good reasons (which this isn't) 13:17:00 <planetmaker> but especially the latter part is what I don't like. It gives bad impressions to people trying to build a plan the first time 13:17:10 <^Spike^> did i miss something? 13:17:19 <planetmaker> Most often the plans of the long-time users win anyway. Telling new ones "this is bad" wouldn't be nice ;-) 13:17:26 <planetmaker> ^Spike^, nope ;-) 13:17:41 <^Spike^> hehe 13:17:51 <^Spike^> i guess that is the default answer to my question there :) 13:18:38 <planetmaker> damn...! ;-) 13:19:17 *** Wouterr has quit IRC 13:19:42 <^Spike^> and then i just go away again ;') 13:19:47 <^Spike^> you give me nothing to do :D 13:20:37 <planetmaker> of course I do: do party with us on Saturday 13:20:43 <^Spike^> oh.. 13:20:44 <^Spike^> cause.. 13:21:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> Mazur: can you revote? 13:21:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> plan B is gone 13:22:03 <Wouterr_> what is the reason? 13:22:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> a) this will not work as well as I thought 13:22:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> b) trying to figure out the voting 13:23:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> lets screw plan A too 13:24:01 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has left the game (connection lost) 13:24:02 <Wouterr_> u want to start building it seems :) 13:24:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> the thing is I cant see any difference between B and Wouterrs plan besides he calls a massive Sbahn 2ndary ICE feeder ... 13:24:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh ok, +2 TL and 1 less line here 13:24:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> -.- 13:24:47 <Wouterr_> i dont have a mega transfer area :) 13:24:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> but it will result in the same 13:25:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> the 1 global ICE will have to get massive stations 13:25:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> to make it actually work 13:25:26 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> i have bits of barbaar, plan B and plan C :) 13:25:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> plan B has nothing to do with it 13:26:32 <PublicServer> *** Intexon joined the game 13:26:49 <Wouterr_> arent massive stations awesome? 13:27:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> i havent said anything about that 13:27:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> I just say your plan is a copy of C 13:27:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 13:27:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> only written in other words 13:27:52 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> hmm it does look verry allike :) 13:28:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> it works the same :) 13:28:05 <planetmaker> plan cleansing Inc.; CEO: V453000 13:28:14 <V453000> ? :D 13:28:30 <V453000> we need some result 13:28:39 <planetmaker> "let's get rid of plan X", "let's get rid of plan Y" ;-) 13:28:54 <planetmaker> I'm not criticising :-) 13:28:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> im trying to get the best working plan for the game :) 13:29:46 <Wouterr_> ^Spike^: still has to vote :) 13:30:00 <^Spike^> i'm not sure if i'm gonna play :) 13:30:10 <^Spike^> i find it not fair that i vote while not playing 13:32:11 <Wouterr_> i see 13:32:55 *** Wouterr_ is now known as Wouterr 13:33:18 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has left the game (connection lost) 13:37:01 *** snc has quit IRC 13:38:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah good job Yso :D that helped the voting 13:39:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> :P 13:40:04 <Yso> maybe it's time for a run-off voting between these 2 plans 13:40:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> these plans are identical ... 13:40:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> we are deciding between these two or Mark 13:40:56 <Wouterr> u can choose between 4 and 6 ICE stations :) 13:41:15 <ODM> go for 5 13:41:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> we can make a compromise 13:42:02 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> btw V, are those Sbahns also with transfer stations on your plan? 13:42:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> ? 13:42:41 *** roboboy has joined #openttdcoop 13:42:58 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> your sBahns are connected to every station in that area right? 13:43:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> ugh 13:43:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> well all Sbahns to one station 13:43:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> which is the ICE terminal ... 13:43:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> how else 13:44:17 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> then the plans are not the same 13:44:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> then I dont get the point of yours 13:44:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> what else are you trying to do than get all pax from cities to he ML and to the other ICE terminals? 13:45:43 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> my sbahns are transfered on other trains to bring them to the global ICE 13:45:58 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> your Sbahns bring it directly to the ICE 13:46:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 13:46:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> and that is exactly the same 13:46:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> Sbahns dont have to be all that direct 13:47:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> therefore, your "other trains" are Sbahns too 13:47:19 <Yso> now i am confused... 13:48:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> see? now you confused Yso :) 13:48:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> fix him :) 13:48:35 <Wouterr> me too :) 13:48:57 <Yso> i voted for Wouteers plan because i seemed to have circles as local networks (like mine has) and not a starnetwork (what i assume is the standard variant) 13:49:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> Yso: since local networks arent in most plans, they depend on builder 13:51:03 <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game 13:51:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi :) 13:51:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> please change your vote 13:51:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> plan B is out 13:51:16 <Yso> hm, then there arent much options with this long but narrow map and both plans are indeed alike 13:51:18 <PublicServer> <Mazur> I only voted B because there was no vote for it yet, anyway. ;-P 13:53:00 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Btw, "we" won. :-P 13:53:19 <Yso> mostly by accident :P 13:54:05 <PublicServer> <Mazur> SO we won with 1-0, on that score, but then another one would have fallen anyway, again. 13:54:32 <PublicServer> <Mazur> The trouble was just breaking through once. 13:56:34 <Yso> that's true, but i think that nl has not used it's potential today, i had expected more 13:57:01 <Mazur> Everyone did. But the Danish defense was massive. 13:57:41 <Mazur> And it was a first game, losing had tpo be avoided at almost all cost. 13:57:57 <Mazur> So nerves played a role. 13:57:59 *** heffer has quit IRC 13:59:32 <Mazur> Things can only get better, you saw that when Elia was brought on. 14:00:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> well 14:00:40 <Yso> cant argue against that, but was is really missing is robben, he brings more movement and creativity into the nl game 14:01:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> I think we should play plan by Mark 14:03:43 <Mazur> I think we should play any one of the plans. 14:03:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> ... 14:04:15 <Mazur> \me no experience with Coop Pax play, /me not know which one best. 14:04:29 * Mazur stoopid greenie. 14:04:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> both of these plans work 14:04:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> none is best :) 14:05:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> they only bring different results :) 14:05:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> Mark has only a more complex plan 14:05:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> because the ICE terminals are quite random :) 14:07:30 <Mazur> I see. 14:08:15 <Mazur> Ofr: ICE. 14:08:17 <Mazur> -f 14:08:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> so if I discard my third plan now, wouterr will win and that is of no effect, becuse he just copied mine ... also, Mark has a more complex, but less demanding plan, therefore more new-friendly 14:08:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> and since we have a lot players unexperienced in pax games, I would go for that 14:09:50 <Mazur> Well, I can't recast my vote to Mark, because I already voted for it. 14:10:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> I know, me neither :) 14:10:15 <Mazur> Bah, copymonkey. 14:10:18 <Mazur> ;-) 14:10:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 14:10:43 <Yso> i can and i did trusting Vs judgement 14:11:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok 14:11:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 14:11:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> I declare Mark a winner 14:11:40 <V453000> @stage Building 14:11:40 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #187 (r19967) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | Welcome to the depths of insanity | create a wiki userpage" 14:11:42 <V453000> done 14:12:44 *** snc has joined #openttdcoop 14:13:00 *** Wouterr has quit IRC 14:15:25 <PublicServer> <Mazur> 1 and 2 shouod be more north? 14:15:36 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> hmm 1 vote difference, and alredy a winner 14:15:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> Mazur: the scheme shows this 14:15:56 <PublicServer> <Mazur> It shows 8. 14:16:20 *** mrruben5 has joined #openttdcoop 14:16:20 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ah, .like that. 14:16:26 *** mrruben5 has left #openttdcoop 14:16:39 <PublicServer> <Mazur> I read 3 and 4 at 5 and 6. 14:17:23 *** Wouterr has joined #openttdcoop 14:17:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> ready 14:18:10 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Go! 14:18:52 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> are u sure BBH1 and 2 are correct? 14:18:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 14:19:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> how else 14:19:23 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> more north 14:19:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> hmm 14:19:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> well 14:19:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> I think Mark mean this way 14:19:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> but we can move them 14:19:56 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Someone get Mark out of bed. 14:20:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> Mark is not coming :) 14:20:24 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Lazy sod. 14:20:46 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> looking at the water on the plan i think its more north 14:20:47 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Anyway, drinks on me. To celebrate the 2-0, regardless. 14:21:59 <Wouterr> :) 14:22:33 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> build? 14:22:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> yea 14:23:38 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> ow TL10 eek 14:23:49 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yeah. 14:23:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> and merciless 231 kh :) 14:23:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> 321 kmh :) 14:24:37 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00009FBD: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00009FBD.png 14:24:50 <Wouterr> is it electrified rail right? 14:24:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> sure 14:24:56 *** Phazorx has left #openttdcoop 14:25:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> we will have the engines in few years 14:25:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> so you can see :) 14:26:10 <PublicServer> <Owen> LLL_?_RRR? 14:26:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> LL_RR 14:26:16 <PublicServer> <Mazur> LL5RR 14:26:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> ye 14:26:20 <PublicServer> <Owen> Aah 14:26:21 <PublicServer> <Owen> OK :) 14:27:18 <PublicServer> * Mazur breathes on his nails and polishes them modestly. 14:27:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> wtf 14:28:03 *** Intexon has quit IRC 14:30:46 *** jondisti has quit IRC 14:31:29 *** Yso has quit IRC 14:31:36 *** Yso has joined #openttdcoop 14:38:35 <PublicServer> <Owen> Heh, am I the only one who intends to build a BBH? :P 14:38:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> im building too 14:38:47 <PublicServer> <Owen> Then label it :p 14:39:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> meh 14:39:27 <PublicServer> <Mazur> I had not expected that. 14:39:39 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00021956: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00021956.png 14:39:40 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Your style is usually much smoother. 14:40:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont know which type of smoothness but whatever :) 14:40:34 <PublicServer> <Owen> Whats the CL? 14:40:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> 10 14:40:48 <PublicServer> <Owen> Ooh fun :P 14:41:35 *** roboboy has quit IRC 14:42:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> the ML will be intense :) 14:42:33 <PublicServer> <Mazur> BBH04 sign gone. 14:42:46 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> its still there :) 14:43:00 <PublicServer> <Owen> Haha 14:43:12 <PublicServer> <Mazur> BBH 04 sign gone, then. 14:43:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> that was silly OwenS :D 14:43:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> Mazur: it only didnt have space in front 14:44:07 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Same effect, but thank you. 14:44:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> @gap 10 14:44:14 <V453000> @gap 10 14:44:14 <Webster> V453000: For Trainlength of 10: <= 16 needs 2, 17 - 28 needs 3, 29 - 40 needs 4. 14:44:17 <V453000> yea 14:44:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> webster lies anyways 14:48:29 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (connection lost) 14:48:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> too many vehicles 14:50:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> ready 14:51:05 *** heffer has joined #openttdcoop 14:53:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> OwenS: you got to use these bridges :) 14:53:31 <PublicServer> <Owen> Crap, I'm thinking the wrong way arround :p 14:53:35 <PublicServer> <Owen> No biggie though, easy fix 14:53:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> sure :) 14:53:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> just noting 14:53:47 <PublicServer> <Owen> (Remember: last pax game was left hand drive :p 14:54:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> dont even tell me :) 14:54:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> btw. nex pax game = japan ... I found out how to set them to maglev again 14:54:38 <PublicServer> <Owen> =) 14:54:41 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00008EAA: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00008EAA.png 14:54:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> CL2! :p 14:54:51 <PublicServer> <Owen> OMGZORS 14:55:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> I wonder why do you move half the hub into the lake :d 14:55:56 <PublicServer> <Owen> Me? 14:55:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> ye 14:56:05 <PublicServer> <Owen> I was following the sign :p 14:56:09 <PublicServer> <Owen> Meh, it will look good :p 14:56:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 14:56:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> dont forget to name the hub an underwater dog :d 14:56:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> .) 14:56:49 <PublicServer> <Owen> lol 14:59:56 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 15:00:52 *** Vitus has joined #openttdcoop 15:01:05 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> terrible long CL 15:01:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 15:04:03 <PublicServer> <Owen> I must agree that the CL is a PITA :p 15:04:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> its ok :) 15:04:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> yet 15:04:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> it will be harder to make all MSHs as needed 15:05:24 <PublicServer> <Owen> I'm so glad I can just take the southbound connector off of this BBHA :p 15:05:38 <PublicServer> <Owen> (I'm intending to take the southeast =)) 15:06:16 <Vitus> !dl win32 15:06:16 <PublicServer> Vitus: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19967/openttd-trunk-r19967-windows-win32.zip 15:07:41 <Vitus> !password 15:07:41 <PublicServer> Vitus: leases 15:08:06 <PublicServer> *** Vitus joined the game 15:08:07 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey 15:09:43 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00031249: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00031249.png 15:10:15 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hmm, I'll try BBH03 15:11:17 <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game 15:13:26 <PublicServer> <Owen> V453000: OK, the junction itself is done :p 15:13:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> I see :D 15:13:33 <PublicServer> * Owen thinks the huge bridges look awesome :p 15:15:21 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> ok BBH02 almost done 15:15:27 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> it's just massive 15:16:05 *** Keyboard_Warrior has quit IRC 15:16:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> hhahahaaaaa 15:16:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> my fav engine is hiya 15:16:27 *** Intexon has joined #openttdcoop 15:17:06 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Not hee-haa? A.k.a." the Donkey"? 15:17:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> see train 1 acceleration 15:17:44 <PublicServer> <Vitus> 56k hp, not bad :D 15:17:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 15:17:49 <PublicServer> <Vitus> And max TE 831kN 15:18:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> TE is fix 15:18:10 <PublicServer> *** Intexon joined the game 15:18:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> hp adds up with more powered wagons 15:18:15 <PublicServer> <Intexon> hi 15:18:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 15:19:21 *** devilsadvocate has quit IRC 15:20:09 <PublicServer> <Owen> 07 is done 15:20:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 15:21:30 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Your inner bridges are not synched, 15:21:43 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Just FYI. 15:22:34 <PublicServer> <Mazur> And neither are the west two pairs. 15:22:47 *** zody has quit IRC 15:22:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> screw sync 15:23:03 <PublicServer> <Intexon> the lakes between 04 and 06 are gonna be bridged I suppose 15:23:04 <PublicServer> <Mazur> I should be so lucky. 15:23:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> intexon: yea 15:24:45 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001553A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001553A.png 15:24:58 <PublicServer> <Mazur> But why screw synching when you now have the freedom and space to synch them? 15:25:31 <PublicServer> <Intexon> what is the CL here? is it 10? 15:25:35 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes. 15:25:40 <PublicServer> <Intexon> okay 15:26:04 <PublicServer> <Mazur> LL5RR, too, in case you were wondering. 15:27:11 *** Estaf has joined #openttdcoop 15:27:13 <PublicServer> <Intexon> that actually does the plan say, it doesn't say which engine will be used and CL quite depends on this 15:27:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> which kinda means the fastest 15:27:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> and since sunset is unquestionably the best here, ... 15:27:58 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Erm, V, screw signalling, too? 15:28:02 <PublicServer> <Mazur> ;-) 15:28:03 <PublicServer> <Intexon> :D 15:28:23 <PublicServer> <Intexon> I gotta take a look at the train set first 15:28:29 <PublicServer> <Owen> V453000: Sync hopefully fixed :p 15:28:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> I didnt say you need to sync it 15:29:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> look at wouterr, he synches with the X and sacrifices CL 15:29:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> (please fix) 15:29:15 <PublicServer> <Mazur> I just remarked it wasn't. 15:30:06 <PublicServer> <Owen> V453000: OK, the northbound bridge is synced because it doesn't violate CL. The east-to-north isn't because its impossible to not violate CL while doing so 15:30:08 <Wouterr> i sacrifice CL? 15:30:20 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 15:30:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes you do wouterr :) 15:30:41 *** pugi has quit IRC 15:30:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok and someone awesome is signalling my hub 15:31:05 <PublicServer> <Mazur> What am I doin g wrong there, this gtime, V? 15:31:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> everything 15:31:11 <PublicServer> *** Spike has joined company #1 15:31:18 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 15:32:09 <perk11> !password 15:32:09 <PublicServer> perk11: fouled 15:32:21 <PublicServer> *** perk11 joined the game 15:32:48 <Wouterr> ok, V can u tell me where my CL is bad? 15:33:04 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> ah there :) 15:33:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> btw that bridge split is also quite bad :) 15:33:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> and solves the sync :) 15:34:32 <PublicServer> *** Spike has joined spectators 15:34:40 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> ok fixed :) 15:34:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 15:35:34 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> can i build an !ice terminal 15:36:43 <Estaf> !password 15:36:43 <PublicServer> Estaf: fouled 15:36:53 <PublicServer> <Owen> BBH05 and 08 connected :) 15:36:59 *** Pirate87 has joined #openttdcoop 15:37:04 <PublicServer> <Owen> 07** 15:37:16 <Pirate87> !dl win32 15:37:16 <PublicServer> Pirate87: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19967/openttd-trunk-r19967-windows-win32.zip 15:37:23 <PublicServer> *** Estaf joined the game 15:37:52 <Pirate87> !password 15:37:52 <PublicServer> Pirate87: fouled 15:38:25 <PublicServer> *** Pirate87 joined the game 15:39:47 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00019223: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00019223.png 15:40:32 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> hi guys 15:40:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 15:40:45 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey 15:40:54 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (leaving) 15:41:21 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> i timed the comeback just right :) 15:44:05 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> what's the CL on the ML ? 15:44:11 <PublicServer> <Vitus> 10 15:44:23 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> 10 !?!? 15:44:37 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> like 20 half tiles ? 15:44:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> you can use also 11 if you dont like :) 15:44:55 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> that's quite a lot 15:45:44 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> seriously, 20 half tiles ? how fast will the trains be ? 15:45:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> see train 1 15:46:26 <PublicServer> *** Estaf has left the game (connection lost) 15:47:13 <Estaf> !password 15:47:13 <PublicServer> Estaf: doping 15:47:15 <Wouterr> @gap 10 20 15:47:15 <Webster> Wouterr: For Trainlength of 10: 209 - 220 needs 19, 221 - 232 needs 20, 233 - 244 needs 21. 15:47:28 <PublicServer> *** Estaf joined the game 15:47:32 <Wouterr> @gap 10 15:47:32 <Webster> Wouterr: For Trainlength of 10: <= 16 needs 2, 17 - 28 needs 3, 29 - 40 needs 4. 15:48:17 <PublicServer> *** Estaf has left the game (connection lost) 15:48:27 <PublicServer> <Vitus> BBH 03 hopefully done 15:48:34 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> i guess i should keep the TF to the minimum 15:48:49 <PublicServer> *** perk11 has left the game (leaving) 15:48:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> Pirate87: just as you need 15:49:16 <PublicServer> <Pirate87> what about the water ? 15:50:31 <PublicServer> *** Estaf joined the game 15:53:06 <Vitus> @gap 10 15:53:06 <Webster> Vitus: For Trainlength of 10: <= 16 needs 2, 17 - 28 needs 3, 29 - 40 needs 4. 15:54:49 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00012240: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00012240.png 15:55:17 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Damn it :D 15:56:29 *** Phazorx has joined #openttdcoop 15:56:29 *** Webster sets mode: +o Phazorx 16:02:11 <PublicServer> *** Pirate87 has left the game (connection lost) 16:05:58 *** Drury has joined #openttdcoop 16:09:51 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000118C6: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000118C6.png 16:10:00 *** zody has joined #openttdcoop 16:10:21 *** Pirate87 has quit IRC 16:11:28 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Owen, are you here? 16:11:51 <PublicServer> <Owen> Yes 16:12:03 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Look !here 16:12:09 <PublicServer> <Owen> Yeah? 16:12:16 <PublicServer> <Vitus> You should probably leave some signals gaps because of the long bridges ahead 16:12:24 <PublicServer> <Owen> Hmm true 16:12:47 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Also the split has slow corner 16:12:54 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Just move it somewhere !here 16:13:00 <PublicServer> <Owen> GP 16:13:45 <PublicServer> <Vitus> :) 16:14:48 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Same goes for the other side. I'll fix it, if you don't mind :) 16:14:58 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop 16:15:34 <PublicServer> <Owen> sure :) 16:23:14 *** devilsadvocate has joined #openttdcoop 16:24:53 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000AB41: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000AB41.png 16:27:11 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 16:32:48 <PublicServer> *** Estaf has left the game (connection lost) 16:33:16 <Estaf> !password 16:33:16 <PublicServer> Estaf: pokers 16:33:34 <PublicServer> *** Estaf joined the game 16:33:54 <PublicServer> *** Estaf has left the game (connection lost) 16:37:27 <Drury> !companies 16:37:29 <PublicServer> Drury: Company 1 (Orange): MonkeyWasters Ltd 16:37:50 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 16:37:56 <PublicServer> *** Yso has joined spectators 16:39:56 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000120C8: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000120C8.png 16:41:59 *** pugi has quit IRC 16:44:34 *** owenbnc has joined #openttdcoop 16:46:47 *** owenbnc has quit IRC 16:46:53 *** orudge__ has joined #openttdcoop 16:48:58 <PublicServer> <Vitus> This should do the trick :) 16:49:03 <PublicServer> *** Estaf joined the game 16:49:04 <PublicServer> <Intexon> why PBS? 16:49:11 <PublicServer> <Intexon> I don't see any point 16:49:35 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Let's try it, shall we? 16:49:52 <PublicServer> <Intexon> fine 16:51:10 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Wasn't really noticeable now :/ 16:51:35 *** orudge__ has quit IRC 16:52:22 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Now 16:52:23 *** Julian has joined #openttdcoop 16:52:25 *** orudge` has joined #openttdcoop 16:52:53 <Julian> !download 16:52:53 <PublicServer> Julian: !download autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|win32|win64|win9x 16:53:02 *** orudge` has quit IRC 16:53:05 <Julian> !download win64 16:53:05 <PublicServer> Julian: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19967/openttd-trunk-r19967-windows-win64.zip 16:53:15 <Julian> thanks! 16:53:18 <PublicServer> <Vitus> ... :D 16:54:39 <PublicServer> <Vitus> See? :) 16:54:58 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000A053: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000A053.png 16:55:04 <PublicServer> <Vitus> I agree that it's just hypothetic case 16:55:11 *** orudge` has joined #openttdcoop 16:55:12 <PublicServer> <Intexon> hmm 16:55:34 *** orudge` has quit IRC 16:55:43 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has joined spectators 16:55:48 <PublicServer> <Intexon> I gotta go for now 16:56:01 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Take care 16:56:04 *** orudge` has joined #openttdcoop 16:56:12 <PublicServer> <Intexon> thank you for help 16:56:45 <Wouterr> oh damn, mixed up left and right :( 16:57:03 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> oh no i didn't fhew 16:57:11 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Huh? 16:57:28 <Julian> !help 16:57:28 <PublicServer> Julian: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands 16:58:42 *** perk11 has quit IRC 16:58:49 *** flaa has quit IRC 16:59:15 <Julian> !password 16:59:15 <PublicServer> Julian: simile 16:59:32 <PublicServer> *** Julian joined the game 17:00:47 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 17:02:38 <PublicServer> *** Estaf has left the game (connection lost) 17:06:23 *** Estaf has left #openttdcoop 17:09:24 <Vitus> !screen 17:09:26 <PublicServer> *** Vitus made screenshot at 00008580: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00008580.png 17:09:38 <PublicServer> *** Julian has left the game (leaving) 17:09:47 *** Julian has quit IRC 17:10:00 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00009F6A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00009F6A.png 17:12:37 *** ralph_ has joined #openttdcoop 17:12:41 <ralph_> !password 17:12:41 <PublicServer> ralph_: quells 17:13:08 <PublicServer> *** ralph joined the game 17:13:12 <Wouterr> how much platforms should an ice station have? 17:13:17 <PublicServer> <ralph> hi all 17:13:20 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey 17:14:39 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 17:15:16 *** Drury has quit IRC 17:16:15 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Wouterr, take a look at your BBH 01 17:17:04 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Most of them are zig-zags 17:17:12 <PublicServer> <Vitus> There are few "classic" slow corners, though 17:17:25 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> those work 17:17:35 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> look at train 1 17:18:43 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> damn i suck at CL :) 17:20:11 <V453000> !password 17:20:11 <PublicServer> V453000: quells 17:20:29 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 17:20:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi again :) 17:20:34 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey 17:20:40 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> so basically a train can be only in 1 turn at a time? 17:21:06 <PublicServer> <Vitus> It can be in 2 at the same time 17:21:19 <PublicServer> <Vitus> But they cannot be in same direction 17:21:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> but not in 3 different directions 17:21:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 17:21:34 <PublicServer> <Vitus> :D 17:22:18 <Wouterr> luckaly the coal mine died 17:23:11 <PublicServer> *** ralph has left the game (leaving) 17:23:15 *** ralph_ has quit IRC 17:24:28 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Should be OK now 17:25:02 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000000: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00000000.png 17:25:04 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> :) 17:25:05 <PublicServer> <Vitus> V., can you check this cl? 17:25:07 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Not sure about it 17:26:20 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> thats one i guess 17:27:26 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> still one too short 17:27:36 <PublicServer> <Vitus> 9+1=10 17:27:39 <PublicServer> <Vitus> No no no 17:28:15 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> grr this long CL is confusing me 17:28:18 <PublicServer> <Vitus> :P 17:29:01 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> don't get it 17:29:06 <PublicServer> <Vitus> sec 17:30:28 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Saw that? 17:30:32 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> interesting 17:31:20 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Is it clear now? 17:31:33 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> ok thanks :) 17:31:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> :( my caterpillar stopped :( 17:31:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> :( 17:31:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> :p 17:32:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh that is some other caterpillar 17:32:08 <elho> !help 17:32:08 <PublicServer> elho: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands 17:32:08 <PublicServer> <Vitus> :D 17:32:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> meh :) 17:32:16 <PublicServer> <Vitus> CL demonstration :) 17:33:23 <PublicServer> <Vitus> V., are these gaps (!here) also on purpose? 17:33:31 <PublicServer> <Vitus> I wasn't sure so I'm asking 17:33:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> arent, but wouldnt hurt (that) much 17:34:03 <PublicServer> <Vitus> k 17:35:00 *** Nickman87 has quit IRC 17:35:54 <PublicServer> *** Owen has joined spectators 17:36:07 <Wouterr> so how much platforms should an ICE station have? 17:37:00 <elho> @quickstart 17:37:02 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 17:37:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> not many 17:37:53 *** Nickman87 has joined #openttdcoop 17:37:57 <PublicServer> <Vitus> I'm going off, take care! 17:37:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> since the loading speeds are really instant 17:38:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> cy 17:38:08 <PublicServer> *** Vitus has left the game (leaving) 17:38:13 *** Vitus has quit IRC 17:38:19 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> 6 or 8? 17:38:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> 8 17:39:23 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has joined company #1 17:39:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> I wana see that with CL 10 :) 17:40:04 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000130C9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000130C9.png 17:41:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok im taking over the middle ~island :) 17:42:51 <PublicServer> *** Yso has joined company #1 17:46:20 <PublicServer> *** Yso has left the game (leaving) 17:48:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> ha 17:48:19 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> :) 17:48:30 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> the dutch text is wrong 17:52:34 <PublicServer> *** Max| has left the game (connection lost) 17:55:06 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001ADE9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001ADE9.png 17:57:11 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has left the game (connection lost) 17:57:53 <PublicServer> *** Intexon joined the game 17:57:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 17:58:10 <PublicServer> <Intexon> boot here boot there 18:00:08 *** gnemo has joined #openttdcoop 18:01:05 *** Max| has quit IRC 18:01:33 <PublicServer> *** Gnemonix joined the game 18:04:45 *** Polygon has joined #openttdcoop 18:05:34 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has left the game (connection lost) 18:05:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> :< 18:06:24 <PublicServer> *** Intexon joined the game 18:06:53 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has left the game (connection lost) 18:07:46 <PublicServer> *** Intexon joined the game 18:09:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> Intexon: you got there some friendly bridges that want a party with BBH 04 18:09:19 <PublicServer> <Intexon> see ;) 18:09:25 <PublicServer> <Owen> What happened to Pirate87? 18:09:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> died 18:09:44 <PublicServer> <Owen> Heh V, MSH01 already? :p 18:10:08 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000161DC: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000161DC.png 18:10:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> well 18:10:11 <PublicServer> <Owen> Well if you're doing that, I'm building Minwood Central Station :p 18:10:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> BBHs are mostly done 18:10:29 <PublicServer> <Owen> Hmm no 18:10:32 <PublicServer> <Owen> Make it Brinwood CS :p 18:10:42 *** orudge` has quit IRC 18:10:50 <PublicServer> *** Owen has joined company #1 18:10:53 *** orudge` has joined #openttdcoop 18:12:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 18:12:20 <PublicServer> <Intexon> connecting the world 18:12:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> indeed 18:13:06 <PublicServer> <Intexon> I'm connecting 04 with 03 then 18:13:49 *** orudge` has quit IRC 18:13:56 *** orudge` has joined #openttdcoop 18:16:08 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has left the game (connection lost) 18:18:19 <PublicServer> *** Wouterr has left the game (leaving) 18:18:35 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Phazorx 18:18:35 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v KenjiE20 18:18:35 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v ^Spike^ 18:18:35 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v ODM 18:18:35 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Webster 18:18:35 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v SmatZ 18:18:35 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v XeryusTC 18:18:35 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Ammler 18:18:35 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v V453000 18:18:35 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v planetmaker 18:19:12 *** orudge has quit IRC 18:19:13 *** Intexon has quit IRC 18:19:16 *** orudge` is now known as orudge 18:25:11 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00019898: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00019898.png 18:25:59 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 18:28:15 *** Intexon has joined #openttdcoop 18:28:30 <PublicServer> *** Intexon joined the game 18:28:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> and stay :p 18:30:39 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 18:30:41 <avdg> hi 18:30:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> hello 18:30:54 <PublicServer> <Intexon> hey 18:30:57 <avdg> back with internet :p 18:31:01 <avdg> stopid provider 18:32:08 <avdg> compiling … :p 18:32:16 *** perk111 has joined #openttdcoop 18:33:37 <PublicServer> <Intexon> another train-bouncer?!? 18:35:57 <PublicServer> *** Gnemonix has left the game (connection lost) 18:36:30 <PublicServer> *** avdg joined the game 18:36:33 <PublicServer> <Owen> Whoa, V's main station is huuuge :p 18:36:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> suur 18:36:42 <PublicServer> <avdg> fill it :p 18:36:53 <PublicServer> <Intexon> and what's worse, it's bouncing trains :P 18:37:46 *** gnemonix has joined #openttdcoop 18:38:28 <PublicServer> <avdg> lol V: 3 plans? 18:38:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 18:38:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> in the beginning nobody was posting plans 18:38:50 *** perk11 has quit IRC 18:38:52 <PublicServer> <avdg> did you followed the more plans more likely to win parody :p 18:38:56 <PublicServer> <avdg> oh 18:39:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont care if I win 18:39:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> I care if the winning plane is good ;) 18:39:11 <PublicServer> <avdg> :D 18:40:13 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001A19D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001A19D.png 18:41:02 *** Wouterr_ has joined #openttdcoop 18:41:03 <PublicServer> <avdg> damm... i need vacation 18:41:20 *** Wouterr has quit IRC 18:41:29 *** Wouterr_ is now known as Wouterr 18:41:57 <Wouterr> !password 18:41:57 <PublicServer> Wouterr: bidden 18:42:04 <PublicServer> *** Wouterr joined the game 18:42:51 <PublicServer> <Owen> Grr 18:42:54 <PublicServer> <Owen> Bloody local authority 18:43:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> KILL THEM! 18:43:09 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> nice looking turnaround station 18:43:21 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> V453000 18:43:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> almost 100 tiles length :D 18:43:35 <PublicServer> <Owen> V453000: Do you actually need the corners? 18:43:40 *** gnemo has quit IRC 18:43:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> you do 18:43:55 <PublicServer> <Owen> Hmm? 18:43:55 * elho looks at Max_Curve_Speed in the wiki and the about-curve-lengths blog entry and is confused 18:43:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> most of the time 18:44:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> sometimres they fuck up 18:44:06 <PublicServer> <Owen> Heh 18:44:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> im not sure, they dont hurt 18:44:15 <PublicServer> <Owen> Also, wouldn't it be better to enter to the bumpers? 18:44:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> with them, it is 100% 18:44:40 <elho> those are just rough estimates for the shorter CLs, right? 18:45:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> what do you call shorter 18:45:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> and they are exact 18:45:24 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has joined spectators 18:45:55 *** gnemonix has quit IRC 18:46:09 <PublicServer> <Owen> V453000: Hurry up and let me send you some trains :p 18:46:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh you got a station too :) 18:46:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> nice CLs :) 18:46:53 <PublicServer> <Owen> Its right in the middle of a bunch of urban area... I'll accept some slowdowns :p 18:46:59 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> owen sens some to my station 18:47:06 *** gnemonix has joined #openttdcoop 18:47:12 <PublicServer> <Owen> Wouterr: Its not on the station list... 18:47:25 <PublicServer> <Owen> And it accepts *nothing* :p 18:48:03 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> ok, "making an sbahn 18:48:45 <PublicServer> <avdg> poor town :p 18:49:00 <PublicServer> <Owen> hurry up you person :p 18:49:03 <PublicServer> *** Gnemonix joined the game 18:49:20 <PublicServer> <avdg> lol 18:49:27 <PublicServer> <Owen> *cough* 18:49:40 <PublicServer> <avdg> chintbridge under heavy load :p 18:49:40 <PublicServer> <Owen> who? :p 18:49:45 <PublicServer> <Gnemonix> I swear my ISP hates me 18:49:48 <PublicServer> <avdg> im not building 18:50:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> I didnt briber 18:50:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> -r 18:51:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> I think 18:51:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> I think... 18:51:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> that 18:51:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> local authority sucks. 18:52:05 <PublicServer> <avdg> put it off :p 18:52:15 <PublicServer> <Owen> lol 18:52:40 <PublicServer> <Owen> Ok, BRI decorated :p 18:52:49 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 18:52:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> ooh 18:52:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) letters 18:53:00 <orudge> Owen: mind saying something? 18:53:03 <PublicServer> <avdg> goverments sucks, the elections have proven that :p 18:53:08 <PublicServer> <Owen> orudge: sure 18:53:11 <PublicServer> <Owen> Hehe 18:53:17 <OwenS> Also, from IRC 18:53:24 <orudge> aha 18:53:25 <orudge> woo 18:53:26 <orudge> well 18:53:47 <orudge> at least at work now, where I am now using my IRC proxy, I can tell xchat not to highlight lines from OwenS or PublicServer 18:53:54 <orudge> so it should at least reduce the amount of highlighting going on in here :p 18:53:59 <OwenS> What? Why did I apparently just go away? 18:54:15 <orudge> hmm? 18:54:18 <orudge> well 18:54:21 <orudge> I use mIRC at home 18:54:23 <orudge> but xchat at work 18:54:27 <orudge> and xchat has an "exclude highlights" feature 18:54:48 <OwenS> orudge: BTW, the forum needs an OpenGFX style :p 18:55:15 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00003F96: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00003F96.png 18:55:58 <avdg> are the screenshots working again? whoohoo... 18:56:07 <orudge> OwenS: feel free to make one :) 18:56:36 <OwenS> Heh :p 18:56:52 <OwenS> If only I were a graphics artist :p 18:57:13 <PublicServer> <avdg> lol, thats my badest dream :p 18:57:29 <PublicServer> <avdg> 1 designer -> no openttd? 18:57:40 <PublicServer> <Owen> V453000: Can I send shark island some pax? And does it have a proper number? :p 18:57:59 <PublicServer> <Owen> number? three letter acronym even 18:58:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> proper number? 18:58:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> no 18:58:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> it is shark island . 18:58:17 *** perk111 has quit IRC 18:58:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> acronym could be ASS 18:58:28 <PublicServer> <Owen> There :p 18:58:33 <PublicServer> <Owen> ASS Shark Island :p 18:58:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> awesome 18:58:51 <PublicServer> <Owen> Though IMO it should be NOM shark island 18:58:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> renamed 18:59:05 <PublicServer> <Owen> Home of the Smatz? :p 18:59:16 <PublicServer> <avdg> not a shark ass -> nasa 18:59:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> kind of 18:59:40 <PublicServer> <Owen> V453000: In that case its initialism is CAN :p 18:59:41 <PublicServer> <avdg> my creativity is gone :p 18:59:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> :( 18:59:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> I want full 4 letter acronym! 19:00:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> or LUV 19:00:54 <PublicServer> <avdg> don't make a smily :p 19:01:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> its a heart 19:01:40 <PublicServer> <Owen> Yes. Your TLA is officially a broken heart :p 19:02:08 <PublicServer> <avdg> :p I want more heights in that desing 19:02:27 <PublicServer> <avdg> ? 19:02:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> die 19:03:19 *** Max| has joined #openttdcoop 19:04:17 <Max|> !password 19:04:17 <PublicServer> Max|: sunset 19:04:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> now with appropriate candy 19:04:42 <PublicServer> *** Max| joined the game 19:05:54 <PublicServer> <avdg> beer? 19:05:59 <PublicServer> <avdg> lol 19:06:08 <SmatZ> beer beer beer 19:06:25 * SmatZ bought 160 beers today 19:06:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> xD 19:06:35 <SmatZ> should be enough for few weeks :) 19:06:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> few = 2 I suppose :) 19:06:52 <SmatZ> hehe :) 19:07:22 <PublicServer> <Owen> 80 a week... 11.1 a day.. 19:07:50 <PublicServer> *** avdg has joined spectators 19:08:01 <PublicServer> <Owen> lol industrial strength beer casks :p 19:08:08 <SmatZ> :) 19:08:26 <PublicServer> <avdg> tjuBEERnami 19:08:41 <PublicServer> <avdg> brb 19:08:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> gettin beer? 19:09:09 <PublicServer> *** Max| has left the game (connection lost) 19:09:10 <PublicServer> <avdg> maybe, bad day 19:09:24 <OwenS> Grr Pirate87 19:09:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> wee 19:09:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> wee 19:09:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> wee 19:09:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> first train 19:09:49 <PublicServer> <Owen> Hehe 19:09:52 <PublicServer> <Owen> With a pax 19:09:54 <PublicServer> <avdg> crash crash crash :p 19:09:55 <PublicServer> <Owen> Yes. One passenger. 19:10:01 <PublicServer> <avdg> record 19:10:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> wow 19:10:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> this is a luxury :D 19:10:17 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000369E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000369E.png 19:10:29 <PublicServer> <avdg> brb 19:10:51 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has joined company #1 19:11:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> mofos 19:11:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> OwenS: wtf at that full load orders :D 19:12:06 <PublicServer> <Owen> V453000: Get some station rating 19:12:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> screw that 19:12:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 19:12:29 <PublicServer> <Owen> My ends gotta compete against planes 19:12:32 <Max|> !password 19:12:32 <PublicServer> Max|: dapper 19:12:45 <PublicServer> *** Max| joined the game 19:14:15 <PublicServer> *** Max| has left the game (connection lost) 19:15:05 *** heffer has quit IRC 19:19:12 <PublicServer> *** Max| joined the game 19:21:50 <Wouterr> hmm which trains do i take for an sbahn? 19:21:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> Colorado 19:22:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> (I guess) 19:22:21 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> DMU or bi-level DMU? 19:22:21 <PublicServer> <Owen> Why specifically? :) 19:22:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> guess 19:22:27 <PublicServer> <Owen> DMU? Eww 19:24:31 *** heffer has joined #openttdcoop 19:25:19 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003CD1B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003CD1B.png 19:27:34 <PublicServer> <avdg> bck 19:27:48 *** Macha has joined #openttdcoop 19:27:52 <Macha> !password 19:27:53 <PublicServer> Macha: levies 19:28:11 <PublicServer> *** avdg has joined company #1 19:28:17 <Macha> !dl lin64 19:28:17 <PublicServer> Macha: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19967/openttd-trunk-r19967-linux-generic-amd64.tar.bz2 19:28:47 <Macha> Was the revision changed since game start? Coulda sworn it was 19950 19:28:56 <PublicServer> <avdg> yeah 19:28:57 <PublicServer> <Owen> Yes it was 19:28:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 19:28:59 <PublicServer> <Owen> PM didn't update 19:29:11 <PublicServer> <avdg> need a binary? 19:29:16 <Macha> Nope, downloading now 19:29:17 <planetmaker> I didn't? 19:30:16 <Wouterr> hmm my sbahn looks cool 19:30:36 <PublicServer> <avdg> nice$ 19:30:42 <PublicServer> <avdg> *nice 19:30:49 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 19:30:49 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has joined spectators 19:31:22 <PublicServer> *** Macha joined the game 19:32:07 <PublicServer> <Owen> Wouterr: FLA doesnt' accept passengers 19:32:08 <PublicServer> <avdg> do we have subnetworks? 19:32:22 <PublicServer> <avdg> the layer between town and network 19:32:34 <PublicServer> <avdg> :/ 19:32:36 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> oops 19:32:46 <PublicServer> <Owen> Wouterr: Also, your S-Bahn as designed can't work 19:33:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> im glad someone noticed :) 19:33:16 <PublicServer> <Owen> Under SRNW the train must go straight back to the MS after each station 19:33:20 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 19:33:26 <PublicServer> <avdg> :) 19:33:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> that isnt true OwenS 19:33:33 <PublicServer> <avdg> I really don't care atm 19:33:38 <PublicServer> <Owen> V453000: Well, under SRNW S-Bahns :p 19:33:41 <PublicServer> <Macha> Question - BBH 08. It's connecting to BBH 07, and what? Across the ocean? 19:33:50 <PublicServer> <Owen> Yeah 19:33:52 <Wouterr> well it's a little test so we will see :) 19:33:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> well yeah, you are right :) 19:33:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> now I see 19:34:00 <PublicServer> <Macha> I'm going to give building it a try. (Shock and horror will progbably occur) 19:34:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 19:34:00 <PublicServer> <Owen> Across the ocean and down the southwest 19:34:13 <PublicServer> <Owen> Macha: Remember, TL10 19:34:17 <PublicServer> *** Gnemonix has left the game (connection lost) 19:34:17 <Phazorx> btw we should try MPSR for pax one day 19:34:24 <OwenS> MPSR? 19:34:36 <PublicServer> <avdg> massive? 19:34:39 <PublicServer> <avdg> ? 19:35:04 <Phazorx> err spelling issues MSRN 19:35:16 <Phazorx> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/MSRN 19:35:54 <Phazorx> it's like srnw but trains CAN do more than one thing per loop 19:36:02 <PublicServer> *** Gnemonix joined the game 19:36:59 <avdg> that was V's network in 1 of the previous games 19:37:04 <avdg> kinda 19:37:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> wtf 19:37:54 <avdg> V just added balancers 19:38:13 <PublicServer> <avdg> ? 19:38:41 <Phazorx> balancers where? 19:38:51 <avdg> at the exits 19:39:04 <avdg> so the network was balanced all the time 19:39:21 <Phazorx> err... SRNW is station based concepts it cares not about network 19:39:38 <Phazorx> so i fail to see how balancers at extis to network can make it multy targeted 19:39:59 <avdg> donno wich game 19:40:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> I believe you mean 180 but I think you are quite out of topic :) 19:40:21 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002F598: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002F598.png 19:40:25 <PublicServer> <avdg> maybe :p 19:41:21 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> ok FLA accepts pax now 19:42:01 <Phazorx> MSRN is a nice way to do uncontrolled pax to some extent 19:42:35 <Phazorx> unless there is a visible dominating city on the loop whoch provides more than 50% of pax, it would work nice 19:44:01 <Phazorx> but tat is toay different fro sbahn/ice concept though 19:44:11 <Phazorx> *that is totaly 19:44:24 <Phazorx> essentially trains will act as taxi cabs 19:44:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> is that a disadvantage? :) 19:44:36 <Phazorx> well not in general 19:44:40 <Phazorx> it's a different design 19:44:56 <Phazorx> most likely will earn less but might transport more pax 19:45:04 <Phazorx> and totaly different challengers 19:45:14 <Phazorx> *challenges 19:45:21 <Paul2> ac 19:45:26 <Paul2> er whoops 19:45:44 <PublicServer> <Macha> Stupid touchpad clicking randomly :( 19:45:48 <Phazorx> it could be fn though... if we can come up with some scalable design 19:45:50 <PublicServer> <Owen> Are we ever gonna get town growth on? :p 19:46:22 *** zody has quit IRC 19:46:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> no 19:46:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> lets play with small 19:47:46 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> hmm cant give my tram orders 19:48:05 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> ah nvm 19:48:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> wut? 19:48:20 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> made goods stations 19:52:26 <PublicServer> <avdg> that train is kinda detouring :p 19:52:30 <PublicServer> <avdg> train 3 19:52:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes, whatever 19:52:44 <PublicServer> <avdg> what with the lake? 19:53:29 *** heffer has joined #openttdcoop 19:55:23 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002F6A9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002F6A9.png 19:56:56 <Macha> Ack! Screenshotting me screwing up :P 19:57:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> btw you have short curves 19:57:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> in this game we need extremely long 19:57:25 <perk11> !password 19:57:25 <PublicServer> perk11: flocks 19:57:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> 10 19:57:37 <PublicServer> *** perk11 joined the game 19:58:11 <PublicServer> <Macha> kk 19:58:44 <PublicServer> <avdg> small trains :p 19:59:04 <PublicServer> <avdg> 20 deadlock 19:59:18 <PublicServer> <Owen> ? 19:59:25 <PublicServer> <Owen> oh 19:59:26 <PublicServer> <Owen> lol 20:00:23 <PublicServer> *** perk11 has left the game (connection lost) 20:00:32 <PublicServer> <avdg> lol 20:00:39 <PublicServer> <avdg> genius network 20:01:08 <PublicServer> <Owen> ? 20:01:31 <PublicServer> *** perk11 joined the game 20:01:41 *** perk111 has joined #openttdcoop 20:01:49 <PublicServer> <avdg> all trains are ok I guess 20:04:32 <PublicServer> <Macha> Any better now? (Re: earlier curves complaint) 20:04:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> do you know what CL10 is? :) 20:05:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> @cl 20:05:29 <V453000> @cl 20:05:29 <Webster> cl: Curve Length, mostly used to describe how big a curve must be to let pass trains with a certain TL at full speed, see also: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Max_Curve_Speed 20:06:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> hm that doesnt say muc 20:06:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> you just need 10 tiles long curves 20:06:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> all of them 20:06:15 <PublicServer> <Macha> kk 20:06:33 <perk111> http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2009/05/13/about-curve-lengths/ 20:07:50 *** perk11 has quit IRC 20:07:51 <PublicServer> <avdg> 8 -> deadlock -> wouter? 20:08:11 <PublicServer> <avdg> use 2way 20:08:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> it will not work either way 20:08:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> as Owen already said 20:08:28 <PublicServer> <avdg> ? 20:08:36 <PublicServer> <avdg> why? 20:08:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> SRNW trains are unloading in additional stations 20:08:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> they mus load->transfer 20:08:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> not load->load->load->transfer 20:09:00 <PublicServer> <avdg> oh 20:09:27 <Wouterr> alredy changed it to not SRNW :) 20:09:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 20:10:04 <PublicServer> <avdg> wtf... 20:10:09 <PublicServer> <avdg> linking problems? 20:10:10 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop 20:10:18 <PublicServer> <avdg> i clicked on a airpot 20:10:20 <PublicServer> <avdg> then planes 20:10:25 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002F3A6: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002F3A6.png 20:10:28 <PublicServer> <avdg> and i see a list of ships 20:10:41 <PublicServer> <perk11> me too 20:10:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> lol 20:10:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> nice bug 20:10:56 <PublicServer> <avdg> planetmaker? 20:11:08 <PublicServer> * avdg thinks he is active 20:11:21 * planetmaker pretends to be not here 20:11:32 <avdg> lol 20:11:36 <PublicServer> * V453000 hugs nowhere 20:11:59 <avdg> riight, I want to take my camera now :p 20:12:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> ass 20:12:49 <planetmaker> eeew. camera and ass. Please spare us! 20:12:58 <avdg> did anyone notice that bug in the past? 20:13:04 <planetmaker> what bug? 20:13:23 <planetmaker> the fixed one that ship and airplane buttons are swapped somewhere? 20:13:33 <avdg> yeah, maybe 20:13:45 <avdg> 90% sure 20:13:55 <avdg> is that fixed? 20:13:57 <PublicServer> <perk11> oh 20:14:11 <PublicServer> <perk11> I've posted to the tracker :( 20:14:18 <PublicServer> <avdg> k 20:15:07 <planetmaker> don't worry perk11 20:15:19 <PublicServer> <perk11> k 20:15:20 <planetmaker> but the version number is quite important in a bug report 20:15:20 <PublicServer> <avdg> perk: give also the version number 20:16:14 <PublicServer> <avdg> :p please in the main post 20:16:21 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has joined company #1 20:16:31 <PublicServer> <avdg> or can't he? 20:16:47 <planetmaker> he can't. 20:16:54 <PublicServer> <avdg> k 20:17:34 <planetmaker> also: perk111 there's probably more than one airport :-) So the savegame alone is a bit ambigeous 20:18:01 <PublicServer> <perk11> that works with every airport I believe 20:18:20 <planetmaker> perk111: I do believe so, too :-) 20:18:34 <planetmaker> but if you click on ships you'll get the list of planes 20:18:43 <PublicServer> <perk11> ok 20:19:25 <planetmaker> http://hg.openttd.org/openttd/trunk.hg/rev/a9f2d0977ed9 20:19:30 <PublicServer> <avdg> we have too many planes I guess 20:19:35 <planetmaker> ^ which is the version exactly after this nightly :-) 20:19:54 <PublicServer> * Owen wonders why it works for hm 20:20:25 <planetmaker> perk111: but it's very good that you report bugs :-) 20:20:31 <perk111> thanks :) 20:20:31 <planetmaker> only reported bugs can be fixed :-) 20:21:49 <PublicServer> <avdg> :/ I wanna kill these notices 20:21:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> I want to kil local authoritis 20:23:15 <Wouterr> kill them all! 20:23:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> deal! 20:23:59 <avdg> pm: since when are these repositories also available in mercurial and git? 20:24:13 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> ok FLA is acceptinx pax, let the ICE trains come 20:25:27 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001A173: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001A173.png 20:27:22 <V453000> !rcon set town_growth_rate 2 20:27:35 <V453000> !rcon set town_growth_rate 2 20:27:37 <V453000> ;;) 20:27:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> tf 20:27:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> duh 20:27:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> well ... I just set town growth to 2 20:28:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 20:30:43 <PublicServer> <avdg> .. 20:32:18 *** Vitus has joined #openttdcoop 20:32:26 <Vitus> !password 20:32:26 <PublicServer> Vitus: alkali 20:32:41 <PublicServer> *** Vitus joined the game 20:32:42 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey 20:32:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 20:33:07 <planetmaker> [22:23] <avdg> pm: since when are these repositories also available in mercurial and git? <-- dunno. At least since mid 2007 20:33:07 <PublicServer> <avdg> hey 20:33:19 <PublicServer> <avdg> wow 20:33:26 <PublicServer> <avdg> i missed a revolution 20:33:27 <PublicServer> <avdg> :p 20:34:01 <planetmaker> that is: as long as I look at OpenTTD source code ;-) 20:34:19 <PublicServer> <avdg> git is much easier for me to work with 20:34:27 <PublicServer> <perk11> why? 20:34:29 <PublicServer> <avdg> maybe hg, but I didn't try it 20:34:36 <PublicServer> <avdg> because I have the full copy 20:34:41 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hmmm, the ICE terminal connected to MSH01 looks awesome 20:34:45 <PublicServer> <avdg> im much offline 20:34:57 <PublicServer> <perk11> and why do you need full copy? 20:35:02 <PublicServer> <perk11> oh 20:35:02 <PublicServer> <perk11> ok 20:35:09 <planetmaker> avdg: personally I prefer hg :-) 20:35:25 <planetmaker> and since after wwottdgd/2 I've been working with it. 20:35:30 <PublicServer> <avdg> people say its better then git, but I really didn't give it a try 20:35:39 <planetmaker> 'better' is a strong word 20:35:44 <planetmaker> but it's possibly easier 20:35:54 <PublicServer> <avdg> and developping is not my thing, so long i'm here at home 20:35:55 <PublicServer> <perk11> avdg: that's right for me about svn 20:35:56 <planetmaker> but I didn't give git a try ;-) 20:36:38 <PublicServer> <avdg> so long I am informed is hg the most time the same as git 20:36:45 <planetmaker> perk111: if you want to test a few patches you got from the forums. Already then hg is superior to svn 20:36:47 <PublicServer> <avdg> *good informed 20:37:09 <perk111> planetmaker: why? I use patch -r0 <patch.patch 20:37:14 <perk111> and it works fine 20:37:34 <planetmaker> avdg: they differ in their branch treatment and other details in that respect 20:37:42 <planetmaker> perk111: and then the next patch is for another version 20:37:46 <planetmaker> then you checkout anew 20:37:57 <perk111> yes 20:37:58 <planetmaker> with hg you just (locally) update your repo 20:38:09 <perk111> I may update repo 20:38:13 <perk111> svn -r 1999 20:38:15 <PublicServer> <Intexon> I'm off for today, good night 20:38:19 <PublicServer> <avdg> gn 20:38:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> bye 20:38:21 <perk111> *svn up -r 1999 20:38:23 <planetmaker> perk111: which always queries the external server 20:38:28 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has left the game (leaving) 20:38:36 <planetmaker> with hg (and git) you have all revisions there. 20:38:38 <planetmaker> much faster 20:38:43 <perk111> I get it 20:39:07 <planetmaker> and you can easily compare versions 20:39:11 <PublicServer> <Macha> Didn't that article say each half tile in a diagonal curve = 1CL? 20:39:12 <PublicServer> <avdg> its just server-client vs distributed model 20:39:16 *** Wun-Qu has joined #openttdcoop 20:39:42 <planetmaker> so unless someone commits to the svn repo and wants to play with patches, hg and git are better than svn 20:39:52 <planetmaker> they also offer better merge algorithms 20:40:10 <perk111> ok 20:40:29 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00016C40: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00016C40.png 20:40:29 <PublicServer> <perk11> thanks for a lecture 20:40:33 <PublicServer> <avdg> :) 20:40:34 <planetmaker> :-) 20:40:40 <PublicServer> <avdg> make the switch! 20:40:45 <PublicServer> <avdg> no kidding 20:40:57 <planetmaker> and especially for maintaining a patchpack hg is nice 20:41:08 <PublicServer> <avdg> *no, 20:41:41 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Macha: Yes, that might be true. 20:41:45 <PublicServer> *** perk11 has left the game (leaving) 20:41:55 <PublicServer> <avdg> perk, just give it a shot: git and hq have both nice tutorials 20:42:01 <PublicServer> <Vitus> But it's wrong 20:42:05 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Look 20:43:01 <perk111> avdg: ok, I'll try it, but there are quite few projects I have to deal with which use git or hq 20:43:01 *** Intexon has quit IRC 20:43:03 <PublicServer> <Vitus> See? 20:43:07 <PublicServer> <Macha> Yup 20:43:21 <PublicServer> <Macha> So I need 20 halftiles? 20:43:26 <PublicServer> <Vitus> 19 20:43:29 <PublicServer> <Macha> kk 20:43:37 <PublicServer> <Vitus> The measuring tool should display "10" 20:43:53 <PublicServer> <Macha> *sigh* - stupid farm 20:46:38 <PublicServer> <Macha> So, curves better now? 20:46:44 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Yup 20:47:14 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Also mind the zig-zags. Don't think you have any there right now, though 20:48:02 <PublicServer> <avdg> what about the airports? do we need them? 20:48:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 20:48:11 <PublicServer> <avdg> k 20:48:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> we dont have almost any income yet 20:48:42 <PublicServer> <avdg> yeah 20:49:13 *** Kolo has joined #openttdcoop 20:49:33 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Macha, look here: 20:49:37 <PublicServer> <avdg> lol, almost a mill spend at planefuel 20:50:08 <PublicServer> *** Kolo joined the game 20:50:12 <PublicServer> <avdg> hey kolo 20:50:16 <PublicServer> <Macha> What exactly should I be paying attention to? 20:50:19 <PublicServer> <Kolo> hi 20:50:26 <PublicServer> <Macha> The rail station? 20:50:55 <PublicServer> <Macha> Oh, never mind 20:50:56 <PublicServer> <Vitus> The "cl" sign 20:51:00 <PublicServer> <Macha> View skipped randomly 20:51:12 <Kolo> PAX game? - I don't like those :( 20:51:27 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Better :) 20:51:36 <Wun-Qu> !password 20:51:36 <PublicServer> Wun-Qu: sifted 20:51:45 <PublicServer> <Macha> Thanks 20:51:49 <PublicServer> <Vitus> The bridge is not synced now, though 20:51:54 <PublicServer> *** Wun-Qu joined the game 20:51:57 <PublicServer> <Vitus> You could have done it like this 20:51:58 <PublicServer> <avdg> hi 20:52:04 <Wun-Qu> Hello 20:52:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 20:52:12 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey 20:53:03 <PublicServer> <avdg> shouldn't we use the empty stations before the rating makes records? 20:53:06 <PublicServer> <Vitus> I'm going off, take care. 20:53:12 <PublicServer> <avdg> bye vitus 20:53:18 <PublicServer> *** Vitus has left the game (connection lost) 20:53:21 <PublicServer> <Wun-Qu> :O you guys already built this much 20:53:25 <PublicServer> <Wun-Qu> c ya 20:54:10 <Vitus> Building with CL10 is superfun! 20:54:25 <Vitus> That's why I prefer TL3 :) 20:54:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> masochist :) 20:54:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> japan ftw! 20:54:50 <PublicServer> <Owen> yeah 20:54:54 <PublicServer> <Owen> TL10 CL2 FTW 20:54:57 <Yso> !password 20:54:57 <PublicServer> Yso: sifted 20:55:09 <PublicServer> *** Yso joined the game 20:55:14 <PublicServer> <avdg> hi yso 20:55:24 <PublicServer> <Wun-Qu> I prefer longer tls, are more beatiful 20:55:31 <Yso> hiho 20:55:31 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000A390: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000A390.png 20:55:35 <PublicServer> <avdg> bah.. 20:55:41 <PublicServer> <avdg> red pixels 20:55:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> Wun-Qu: ENEMY! 20:56:18 <Wun-Qu> muahahaha 20:57:48 <Vitus> I'm actually looking forward to building Sbahn, although I prefer cargo games. This is my first PAX game probably :) 21:01:11 <PublicServer> <avdg> poor breninghall :p 21:02:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> beer for sale 21:02:36 <SmatZ> beer! 21:02:46 <planetmaker> moooaaar beer! 21:02:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 21:03:08 <PublicServer> <Owen> Hah, C'Bahn V? 21:03:10 <SmatZ> :) 21:03:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> indeed 21:03:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> had to use the island positioning :) 21:06:13 <Vitus> SmatZ again :D 21:06:24 <Vitus> Still highlighting beer, eh? :) 21:06:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> no 21:06:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> SmatZ just feels the presence of beer 21:08:12 <PublicServer> <avdg> V? doesn't pudham need transfer? 21:08:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> I think we should ban local authorities from openttdcoop because they refuse to cooperate 21:08:41 <PublicServer> <avdg> lol 21:08:49 <PublicServer> <Owen> V453000: Or they should allow you to bribe the regional investigator :p 21:08:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 21:08:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> indeed 21:09:07 <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game 21:09:14 <PublicServer> <avdg> hey, wb 21:09:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> happy, avdg? 21:09:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 21:09:58 <PublicServer> <avdg> yeah 21:10:07 <PublicServer> <avdg> didn't wanna touch it :p 21:10:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> wise decision 21:10:33 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003CD09: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003CD09.png 21:12:02 <PublicServer> <avdg> lol, beer island 21:12:03 <PublicServer> <avdg> 1k 21:12:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> many people with hangover 21:12:23 <PublicServer> <avdg> yeah 21:12:32 <PublicServer> <avdg> waiting for beer 21:12:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> no 21:12:42 <PublicServer> <avdg> :p 21:12:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> the people are so pissed that they basically are beer 21:13:04 <PublicServer> <avdg> :) 21:13:08 <PublicServer> <Owen> V453000: When do we get town growth? :p 21:13:45 <PublicServer> <avdg> the incomen makes a bang!(tm) 21:15:06 <PublicServer> <avdg> what should we say to the passengers? 21:15:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> FUCK 21:15:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> YOU 21:15:13 <PublicServer> <avdg> network under full load? 21:15:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 21:15:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> ¨no 21:15:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> just tell them what I said 21:15:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> they wil understand 21:15:42 <PublicServer> <avdg> lol 21:16:43 <PublicServer> <Mazur> If they're British they should be used to it by now, gthey've been hearing it for years, now 21:16:45 <PublicServer> <avdg> wtf 21:16:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> :D 21:16:55 <PublicServer> <avdg> incomen :D 21:19:37 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Wow, they even read my MIND!?! 21:19:40 <PublicServer> <Owen> =( Towns still on 2x2 grid. And no growth =( 21:20:12 <PublicServer> <avdg> expand in diameter 21:20:23 <PublicServer> <avdg> ? 21:20:35 <PublicServer> <Wun-Qu> bleh, gotta go 21:20:42 <PublicServer> <Wun-Qu> bye all 21:20:44 <PublicServer> <avdg> bye 21:20:55 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Bibi. 21:20:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> cya Wun-Qu 21:21:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> Owen: growth is on normal 21:21:06 <PublicServer> <Wun-Qu> this week is going to be a nightmare T_T 21:21:29 <PublicServer> <avdg> for me too 21:21:39 <PublicServer> <Owen> whoo 21:21:49 <PublicServer> <Owen> You didn't turn off otwn road building though 21:21:50 <PublicServer> <avdg> im feeling older this week 21:22:08 <PublicServer> <avdg> and there is no party 21:22:34 <PublicServer> *** Kolo has left the game (leaving) 21:22:42 *** Kolo has quit IRC 21:22:52 <PublicServer> <Owen> Oh, towns build roads: off :) 21:23:09 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 21:23:17 <PublicServer> *** Wun-Qu has left the game (leaving) 21:23:24 *** Wun-Qu has quit IRC 21:23:31 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Gets you challenging problems, though, removing Newgrfs 21:24:01 <PublicServer> *** Barbaar joined the game 21:24:05 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> hey guys 21:24:10 <PublicServer> <avdg> hey 21:24:15 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hi. 21:24:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 21:24:53 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> most BBHs done already eh? 21:25:07 <PublicServer> <Owen> Take BBH06 if you want 21:25:11 <PublicServer> <Owen> Pirate87 went missing :p 21:25:16 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Not all. though. 21:25:35 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000323A7: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000323A7.png 21:26:53 <PublicServer> <Macha> Phew - nearly done my first BBH, just signals now 21:28:03 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> no balancing on BBH? 21:28:17 <PublicServer> <Owen> Barbaar: They're fricking huge already 21:28:23 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> yeah :) 21:29:51 <Vitus> Oh, perk111. You didn't have to open flyspray task for the switched ships/aircrafts buttons; it has been fixed in r19968 21:30:04 <PublicServer> <avdg> he knows it 21:30:09 <Vitus> Oh, OK 21:30:19 <PublicServer> <Macha> Ok, anyone want to comment on BBH 08? (Or, list of reasons why it sucks, please :P ) 21:30:20 <perk111> :) 21:30:33 <PublicServer> *** avdg has joined spectators 21:31:49 <PublicServer> <avdg> fla is hitting limits :p 21:32:05 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> hehe 21:32:09 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> i'll have a go at BBH 06 then 21:32:16 <PublicServer> <avdg> I hope the fla doesn't mean flanders btw :p 21:32:29 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Doh. 21:32:34 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> no, flaningville :) 21:32:34 <PublicServer> * Owen brings ML over to 06 21:32:59 <Vitus> I'm going off - now definitely. Good night! 21:33:03 <PublicServer> <avdg> gn 21:33:16 *** Vitus has quit IRC 21:34:00 <PublicServer> <Mazur> I'm going to work further on my tomorrow morning hangover. 21:34:43 <PublicServer> <Mazur> As a defense against noisy first game win celebrations around here. 21:34:57 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (connection lost) 21:35:07 <Wouterr> amusez vous 21:35:59 <PublicServer> <avdg> wouter: any expanding plans? 21:36:01 <PublicServer> <avdg> :p 21:36:06 <Barbaar> @gap 10 21:36:06 <Webster> Barbaar: For Trainlength of 10: <= 16 needs 2, 17 - 28 needs 3, 29 - 40 needs 4. 21:36:14 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> ill look in a sec 21:37:11 <Wouterr> was placing some signs on macha's hub 21:37:21 <PublicServer> <avdg> :) 21:39:23 *** Thraxian|Work has joined #openttdcoop 21:39:23 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Thraxian|Work 21:39:30 <Thraxian|Work> !password 21:39:30 <PublicServer> Thraxian|Work: altars 21:39:38 <PublicServer> <avdg> hey 21:39:40 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian|Work joined the game 21:39:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 21:40:34 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> ah...is this in response to the recent blog article? 21:40:37 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00021FA9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00021FA9.png 21:40:42 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> ICE/SBahn :) 21:40:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> vice versa 21:40:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> blog article is the response :) 21:40:58 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> kk 21:41:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> although I also made the map ;) 21:41:14 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> I was disappointed that my Las Vegas wasn't even mentioned :) 21:41:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> I knew you will say that :) 21:41:24 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> haha 21:41:34 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> that had a SICK Sbahn 21:41:42 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> if only it could have handled the busses I had planned 21:41:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 21:41:48 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> that would have destroyed the server 21:42:17 <PublicServer> <Macha> Ok, made a few changes to the hub. Though I can't figure out how to get the formely single bridge synced in the space there. 21:42:37 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian|Work has joined company #1 21:42:57 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> BBH08? 21:43:00 <PublicServer> <Macha> Yup 21:43:06 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> TL 10, right? 21:43:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 21:43:09 <PublicServer> <Macha> Yup 21:43:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> cl the same 21:46:07 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> flanningville growing bigtime 21:46:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 21:51:08 <Macha> Anyway, I gtg, bye 21:51:14 <PublicServer> <avdg> bye 21:51:17 <PublicServer> *** avdg has left the game (leaving) 21:51:19 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> cya 21:51:21 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> gn 21:51:28 <PublicServer> *** Macha has left the game (leaving) 21:51:35 *** Phazorx has left #openttdcoop 21:51:43 *** Macha has quit IRC 21:51:48 *** avdg has quit IRC 21:54:26 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> V453, was !this a problem? 21:54:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 21:55:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> you can just do this 21:55:07 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> yeah ok 21:55:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> and save a lot of trouble 21:55:35 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> think the rest is ok 21:55:39 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000230B3: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000230B3.png 21:56:13 <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> same problem exists at BBH01 21:58:07 <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game 21:58:14 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian|Work has left the game (leaving) 21:58:18 *** Thraxian|Work has quit IRC 21:59:30 *** heffer has quit IRC 22:04:37 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> V, doesnt around !here have lots of double S turns? 22:04:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> indeed 22:05:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> I have no idea who added the bridges 22:05:27 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> i was looking at how to connect BBH 6 and noticed :) 22:06:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> good good :) 22:06:12 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> ow, can we have those bridges synced the other way? so easier on other side? 22:06:25 <PublicServer> <Mazur> "double S turns"? 22:07:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> Barbaar: ok? 22:07:07 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> 2 s-turns within one tl 22:07:10 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> yeah thanks 22:07:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> yw 22:07:24 <PublicServer> <Owen> What? Where? 22:07:26 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ah, ok. 22:07:39 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> already cleaned up Owen 22:08:30 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> noo, stupid steel mill 22:08:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> just go around 22:08:43 *** mrruben5 has joined #openttdcoop 22:08:51 *** mrruben5 has left #openttdcoop 22:09:55 <PublicServer> *** Max| has joined company #1 22:10:14 <PublicServer> *** Yso has left the game (leaving) 22:10:32 <Yso> good night & hf building! 22:10:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> cya 22:10:37 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> gn 22:10:43 *** Yso has quit IRC 22:10:44 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000409E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000409E.png 22:10:49 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Bye., Yso. 22:11:39 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> FLA? 22:11:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> electricity 22:12:13 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> waah, just connected a bit and already train going over it 22:12:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> Barbaar: you are building a demanded connection :) 22:12:47 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> good :) 22:12:52 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> wasnt even signaled yet :p 22:14:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> roughly 7000 drunk people here 22:15:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> need transport 22:15:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> they wont vomit your trains, take them! 22:15:33 <PublicServer> <Mazur> I know Ruby Port, but nevr Trans Port. 22:16:33 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> what shall we do with the BBH 6-8 connection? More ugly bridges? 22:16:53 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Try tunnels? 22:16:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> no, just make the tracks fly 22:16:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> or take them under water 22:17:43 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Or boats. 22:17:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> ... 22:17:55 <PublicServer> * Mazur runs and hides. 22:18:39 <PublicServer> <Mazur> We\ll call them V's ferries. 22:18:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> of advanced intelligence 22:19:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> for example 22:19:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> :p 22:20:56 *** perk111 has quit IRC 22:22:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> lol TL3 trams 22:22:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> Pudham 22:22:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> TL2 at least 22:25:46 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000468E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000468E.png 22:26:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> CL10 is really badass, but these trains are just awesome :) 22:27:30 *** ODM has quit IRC 22:28:30 *** Polygon has quit IRC 22:33:32 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> right, think BBH 06 is all done and connected 22:36:43 *** Macha has joined #openttdcoop 22:37:32 <Macha> So, how much of BBH 08 has had to be rebuilt since I left? :P 22:39:16 <Wouterr> none so far 22:39:23 <Mazur> ALl of it, V just bombed it and built a new one. 22:39:31 *** Progman has quit IRC 22:39:56 <Mazur> You know how he is. 22:40:49 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000409B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000409B.png 22:41:35 <Macha> How does the city grow so fast? Could of sworn that was a village when I left. 22:41:45 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Those trams are crawling up each other's bums the whole time. Juswt like dogs, they are. 22:43:46 *** Macha has quit IRC 22:44:03 *** Macha has joined #openttdcoop 22:48:33 *** Macha has quit IRC 22:48:57 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 22:50:44 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (connection lost) 22:50:55 *** pugi has quit IRC 22:52:53 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> cya later everyone 22:53:02 <PublicServer> *** Barbaar has left the game (leaving) 22:53:12 <Wouterr> gn 22:55:42 <PublicServer> *** Owen has left the game (leaving) 22:55:46 <OwenS> gn 22:55:51 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00001270: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00001270.png 22:58:09 *** ^Spike^ has quit IRC 23:01:17 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> allot ppl want to leave beer island 23:01:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> indeed 23:01:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> bastards dont like it here 23:01:59 <PublicServer> <Wouterr> flaningville is the place to be now :) 23:03:33 <perk11> :D 23:05:00 <perk11> BTW this is an interesting topic, why if you carry passengers only one way: out of town population doesn't decrease :) 23:05:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> because we are evil and we take cities like mines :( 23:05:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 23:06:03 <perk11> :) 23:07:04 <Barbaar> we secrectly clone the passengers so they can pay is again the next day (and get cloned again) Muhahaha 23:07:09 <Barbaar> us* 23:10:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> im off 23:10:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> cya 23:10:38 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 23:10:53 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00007D3F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00007D3F.png 23:11:11 <Wouterr> gn 23:13:29 *** PeterT is now known as PeterT` 23:13:38 *** PeterT` is now known as PeterT 23:14:28 <PublicServer> *** Wouterr has left the game (leaving) 23:14:32 <Wouterr> night 23:14:34 *** Wouterr has quit IRC 23:15:34 <PublicServer> *** Max| has left the game (connection lost) 23:16:32 <PublicServer> *** Gnemonix has left the game (leaving) 23:16:44 *** gnemonix has quit IRC 23:16:53 *** perk111 has joined #openttdcoop 23:17:02 <perk111> !chatlogs 23:17:02 *** perk11 has quit IRC 23:17:02 *** Mitcian has quit IRC 23:17:32 <PeterT> @logs 23:17:32 <Webster> Logs: http://hyru.ath.cx:60080/~kenji/ottdcoop/ 23:17:35 <PeterT> perk111: ^ 23:17:44 <perk111> thx 23:18:26 <perk111> It would be challenging if passengers in trains will decrease city population and increase it when they arrive. Some balancing would be required. And also we could make a one extra large city (maybe some limit should be required not to allow do that) That's an interesting patch idea :) 23:23:45 <Mazur> Môgge. 23:25:55 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00006FB7: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00006FB7.png 23:26:54 <Mazur> Yes, actual passenger movement. With like 1% pop increase per year. That's ¹²√1.01 pefr month. 23:27:00 <Mazur> -f 23:39:45 *** thgergo has quit IRC 23:44:55 *** perk111 has quit IRC