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Log for #openttdcoop on 14th June 2010:
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02:37:11  <elho> hi
02:38:51  <elho> how is one supposed to use the grfpack with savegames? openttd apparently does not load them from the subdirs, is there a smarter solution than softlinking them all to the data dir?
02:59:45  <OwenS> elho: It looks in subdirs fine
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03:12:04  <elho> hmm. here it (1.0.1) moaned about missing grfs with them in subdirs, but works fine after a find ottdc_grfpack -path '*/z_obsolete/*' -prune -o -name '*.grf' -exec ln -s {} . \;
03:13:17  <elho> the readme suggesting to copy lines from ottdc_grfpack.cfg to ones config also led me to believe it won't find them on its own otherwise
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04:09:31  <Bobbysepp> !help
04:09:31  <PublicServer> Bobbysepp: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands
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04:20:07  <Bobbysepp> !password
04:20:07  <PublicServer> Bobbysepp: jailed
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04:47:31  <elho> OwenS: weird. now that i tried again without the links (and not touching the grfpack itself at all), it indeed works.
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05:34:40  <Yso> !dl win64
05:34:40  <PublicServer> Yso: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19967/openttd-trunk-r19967-windows-win64.zip
05:35:34  <Yso> !password
05:35:34  <PublicServer> Yso: hashed
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08:02:33  <V453000> !screen
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09:06:31  <Mark> 'lo
09:07:47  <V453000> heyy
09:07:48  <V453000> :)
09:08:01  <V453000> how are kangaroos? :)
09:09:40  <Mark> hehe
09:09:43  <Mark> good for eating
09:09:56  <V453000> and you? :)
09:09:57  <Mark> i just had a kangaroo curry this evening
09:10:02  <Mark> great aswell
09:10:03  <V453000> :D
09:10:04  <V453000> ok
09:10:05  <Mark> finally did some work
09:10:07  <V453000> :)
09:10:09  <V453000> what kind?
09:10:10  <Mark> how are you?
09:10:16  <V453000> im ... just fine :)
09:10:21  <Mark> pumpkin picking, i'm driving the tractor though
09:10:25  <V453000> :)
09:10:33  <Mark> including air-con and stereo system :)
09:10:37  <V453000> nice :D
09:10:43  <Mark> sure is
09:10:52  <Mark> hell of a lot better than the actual picking
09:10:58  <V453000> yeah :)
09:11:03  <V453000> kinda hi-tech tractors :d
09:11:20  <Mark> harvest will be completed in a week or so though, i'll probably pick oranges after that
09:11:33  <V453000> tractoring again? :P
09:11:42  <Mark> probably not :P
09:11:48  <V453000> :)
09:12:06  <Mark> btw, awesome job on the sbahn article
09:12:14  <V453000> wow, thanks :)
09:13:34  <V453000> it should be particularly useful in this upcoming game ... we have a pax one
09:13:34  <Mark> :)
09:13:38  <Mark> oh nice
09:13:42  <V453000> the last one was a bit ... well ... not-so-good
09:13:49  <Mark> im downloading the grfpack already :P
09:13:50  <V453000> so I am trying to improve that :)
09:13:59  <Mark> what last one?
09:14:01  <Mark> your revue?
09:14:06  <V453000> nah
09:14:09  <V453000> the last pax game
09:14:13  <V453000> 174
09:14:17  <Mark> oh right
09:14:17  <Ammler> \o Mark
09:14:28  <Mark> hiya Ammler :)
09:14:33  <Ammler> hehe, installing openttd on a public pc :-)
09:14:50  <Mark> why not :)
09:14:51  <Ammler> after Down Under, you are installing pro :-P
09:14:58  <Mark> i already am :P
09:15:05  <V453000> :D
09:15:24  <Ammler> oh, true, you are :-)
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09:16:37  <V453000> !password
09:16:37  <PublicServer> V453000: testes
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09:17:14  <Ammler> oh, V453000 found imageing from Osai :-)
09:17:28  <V453000> imageing from Osai?
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09:17:57  <PublicServer> <Mark> pretty big for a pax game
09:18:06  <PublicServer> <Mark> though a lot of it is water, that helps
09:18:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> 1024x256
09:18:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> not that unordinary :)
09:18:21  <Ammler> V453000: the rotating of the maps
09:18:22  <PublicServer> <Mark> in 140 we managed to lag a 256^2 :P
09:18:30  <PublicServer> <Mark> or something 140ish
09:18:35  <V453000> Ammler: yea, very useful :)
09:18:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> Mark: 157 was 256*256
09:18:55  <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah that one
09:18:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> 140 was larger I think
09:18:58  <PublicServer> <Mark> the one without orders :P
09:19:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> yea
09:19:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> 157
09:19:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> awesome game
09:19:07  <PublicServer> <Mark> indeed
09:19:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> one of the most unique games of all time ... because repeating that would be just weak :)
09:19:44  <PublicServer> <Mark> hehe
09:20:26  <PublicServer> <Mark> i'd love to claim an island in this one :P
09:20:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
09:21:07  <PublicServer> <Mark> Fort Trunbury isl would be mine
09:21:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh yea :)
09:22:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> I am looking forward to see this game run :) because the US trainset ICE are just ... god ... so good :)
09:22:33  <Ammler> @psg 157
09:22:33  <Webster> Ammler: (psg <no arguments>) -- Returns full name and reference url (if defined)
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09:22:46  <V453000> @psgsave 157
09:22:46  <Webster> PSG 157 Archive entry; http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/PublicServer:Archive_-_Games_151_-_160#gameid_157
09:22:49  <V453000> :p
09:22:53  <PublicServer> <Mark> are those the sunset ones?
09:22:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah
09:23:04  <PublicServer> <Mark> they're nice
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09:23:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> they look awesome, go 321kmh, and have endless power ... besides instant loading times and compatibility with doubledeckers ... :D what to add
09:23:47  <PublicServer> <Mark> hehe
09:25:23  <Ammler> @psg
09:25:23  <Webster> psg: Public Server Game
09:25:31  <Ammler> so what's that?
09:25:35  <V453000> ?
09:25:51  <Ammler> don't get that command
09:26:09  <V453000>  @psg isnt a command afaik
09:26:22  <V453000>  @psgsave is a command for the archive links
09:26:32  <V453000> @psgsave
09:26:32  <Webster> V453000: (psgsave <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "echo PSG  Archive entry; [squish http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/PublicServer:Archive_-_Games_ [math calc (floor((-1)/10)*10)+1]_-_[math calc ((floor((-1)/10)+1)*10)]#gameid_]".
09:26:48  <V453000> o_O
09:26:53  <V453000> alias? :D
09:28:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> btw I already figured out how to make a good japanese grf config, so next pax is japan for sure :)
09:28:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> with maglev shinkansens, just as in the old times :)
09:28:53  <Ammler> that isn't maglve
09:29:13  <Ammler> shinkansen is like european standard gauge
09:29:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> the point is they are on remade-maglev tracks
09:29:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> in the 2.0 and higher versions of japan train set they are on monorail
09:29:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> making their acceleration drop drastically
09:29:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> and increasing CLs by 1
09:29:48  <Mark> CL2.5 at 300kmh :P
09:29:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> yea
09:29:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> that just rox
09:29:59  <Ammler> that is a good thing :-)
09:30:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> what else could you want for a pax chaos than CL2 and ~good acceleration :)
09:33:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> you should have been here for the last game Mark :)
09:33:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> was fun
09:33:58  <Mark> last game looked nice indeed
09:34:10  <Mark> i'll download the final save in a bit
09:35:06  <V453000> it was a great bunch of fun to plan too
09:35:21  <Mark> @psgsave 186
09:35:21  <Webster> PSG 186 Archive entry; http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/PublicServer:Archive_-_Games_181_-_190#gameid_186
09:35:28  <V453000> the refit orders make bad things sometimes :)
09:35:54  <Mark> holland-denmark in a bit
09:35:57  <Mark> should be fun
09:36:00  <V453000> :)
09:36:11  <Mark> the australians actually thought they stood a chance against germany :P
09:36:17  <Mark> glad they got their asses kicked
09:36:40  <V453000> :-D
09:37:13  <Ammler> last win for
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09:37:17  <Ammler> Germany ;-)
09:37:21  <V453000> I dont really watch football
09:37:24  <V453000> :)
09:37:43  <Ammler> football and beer don't collide
09:37:53  <Mark> i usually dont either, but i dont have anything else to do here :P
09:38:14  <V453000> Ammler: they dont have anything in common either :p
09:38:14  <Mark> im not getting up at 4.30 to watch the matches though
09:38:21  <V453000> oh :)
09:38:55  <Ammler> V453000: I can't watch football without
09:39:11  <V453000> I can drink beer without :)
09:39:17  <Ammler> hehe
09:39:27  <Mark> V453000: last game looks nice, i've always liked the ML in valley concept
09:39:29  <Ammler> hmm, soccer*
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09:39:41  <V453000> Mark: absolutely :)
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09:39:56  <Mark> Ammler: i yesterday almost started a riot by calling it soccer :P
09:40:33  <V453000> :D
09:40:53  <V453000> Mark: I actually think that it is the reason why to play arctic :) awesome landscapes
09:40:54  <Ammler> well, isn't football that silly american sport?
09:41:13  <V453000> i think it isnt
09:41:20  <V453000> soccer is the silly one
09:41:29  <V453000> afaik ... but im a football noob :)
09:41:45  <Ammler> I guess, it depends on the coutry then
09:41:56  <Mark> soccer is the american/australian word for what england calls football
09:42:06  <V453000> oh
09:42:07  <V453000> :)
09:42:13  <Mark> america and australia call rugby football
09:42:17  <V453000> that sounds true
09:42:27  <Ammler> england doesn't?
09:42:37  <Mark> what?
09:42:42  <Mark> england calls it rugby
09:42:48  <Ammler> call "real" football soccer
09:42:52  <Mark> the sport with the egg-shaped ball :P
09:43:19  <Mark> Ammler: england calls the sport with the round ball football
09:43:38  <V453000> just stupid thing with a ball ... any :)
09:44:53  <Ammler> he, wikipedia tell, that Australia changed it at 2005
09:45:33  <Ammler> only USA, Canada and Samoa left, which call it soccer
09:46:06  <Mark> Ammler: perhaps officially, but they still call it soccer
09:46:15  <Mark> their national team is called the socceroos
09:46:30  <Ammler> Mark: that is understandable, it needs some years :-)
09:47:36  <V453000> xD
09:47:39  <V453000> socceroos :D
09:47:40  <V453000> :D
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09:48:57  <Ammler> [11:39] <Mark> Ammler: i yesterday almost started a riot by calling it soccer  <-- s/soccer/football/ ?
09:49:21  <Mark> Ammler: there's a lot of english guys in the hostel
09:49:50  <Paul2> tbh soccer is just wrong. It's football. The sooner stupid people realise the better.
09:50:18  <Ammler> Mark: Paul2 just confirmed ^ ;-)
09:50:29  <Mark> wha?
09:50:51  <Ammler> Paul2: is a uk guy
09:50:56  <Paul2> No rioting. Just trying to make the internet right, one IRC channel at a time
09:51:03  <Ammler> :-D
09:52:05  <Paul2> http://www.fifa.com/index.html <- note how many times they reference football (many) vs soccer (once for beach soccer, which is different)
09:52:06  <Webster> Title: FIFA.com - Fédération Internationale de Football Association (FIFA) (at www.fifa.com)
09:52:20  <Mark> !password
09:52:20  <PublicServer> Mark: veneer
09:52:33  <Ammler> Paul2: for "facts", I prefer wikipedia
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09:52:50  <Mark> that's an interesting statement :P
09:53:42  <Paul2> Ammler: you prefer wikipedia, the site known for being filled by trolls changing things, or FIFA the international body for this sport (whatever you choose to call it).
09:54:11  <Ammler> Paul2: well, it is still "more" true
09:54:21  <Paul2> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifa you can read that instead if you like :)
09:54:22  <Webster> Title: FIFA - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
09:55:19  <V453000> :D
09:56:18  <Ammler> [11:45] <Ammler> only USA, Canada and Samoa left, which call it soccer <-- already did
09:58:38  <Mark> !unpause
09:58:38  <PublicServer> Mark: you must be channel op to use !unpause
09:58:40  <Mark> @op
09:59:01  <Mark> @op
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09:59:05  <Mark> !unpause
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10:00:17  <V453000> posting a plan? :)
10:00:31  <PublicServer> <Mark> yep
10:00:54  <V453000> awesome
10:00:55  <V453000> :)
10:00:57  <V453000> !password
10:00:57  <PublicServer> V453000: dismay
10:01:09  <Ammler> !screen
10:01:11  <PublicServer> *** Ammler made screenshot at 000056CE: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000056CE.png
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10:02:04  <V453000> !auto
10:02:04  <PublicServer> *** V453000 has enabled autopause mode.
10:02:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
10:09:34  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00000000: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00000000.png
10:09:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
10:10:34  <PublicServer> <Mark> there we go
10:10:41  <PublicServer> <Mark> oh i got a vote already, thanks :P
10:11:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
10:11:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> tbh I was thinking about the exact same thing :)
10:11:43  <PublicServer> <Mark> hehe
10:12:06  <PublicServer> <Mark> well im about to be kicked out of this place, so, bye bye :)
10:12:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh
10:12:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> cya :)
10:12:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> nice to see you :)
10:12:26  <PublicServer> <Mark> might be back later in the week to claim an island :P
10:12:30  <V453000> :)
10:12:34  <PublicServer> <Mark> was good seeing you too
10:12:36  <V453000> I will reserve it for you
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10:12:43  <Mark> nah dont bother
10:12:46  <Mark> i might not be on at all
10:12:56  <Mark> thanks for the offer anyway :)
10:12:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh
10:13:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> okay :)
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10:16:51  <Mark> holy..
10:17:12  <Mark> looks like holland's got a liberal-nationalist parliament now
10:17:36  <Mark> glad i'm not around
10:17:41  <Mark> anyway, bye bye
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10:19:16  <V453000> crazy dutchies and their politicians :)
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10:52:52  <PublicServer> ralph_: oracle
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10:54:51  <PublicServer> ralph_: roding
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11:08:31  <Wouterr> !password
11:08:31  <PublicServer> Wouterr: roding
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11:08:57  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> afternoon all
11:10:56  <Yso> !password
11:10:56  <PublicServer> Yso: flails
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11:36:35  <Mazur> Oh, new version.
11:39:31  <Wouterr> hey mazur
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11:40:47  <Mazur> Hi.
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12:55:43  <Wouterr> !password
12:55:43  <PublicServer> Wouterr: mating
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12:58:30  <Wouterr> @wiki New Votesystem
12:58:33  <Webster> New Votesystem - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Special:Search?go=Go&search=New%20Votesystem
12:58:58  <Wouterr> i guess we will need to use this voting system to get a result on this game :)
13:01:10  <Yso> !password
13:01:10  <PublicServer> Yso: mating
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13:08:50  <planetmaker> what. Did someone use the anti-social voting system in this PSG?!
13:09:18  <Wouterr> no
13:09:33  <planetmaker> I consider the "New Votesystem" to be just that.
13:09:34  <Wouterr> i was sugesting it :)
13:09:39  <planetmaker> don't ;-)
13:09:54  <Yso> i dared to make a plan, feel free to hate it instantly :)
13:11:01  <Ammler> how does anti-social voting work?
13:11:08  <V453000> you vote who you hate
13:11:11  <planetmaker> that's exactly the point: there's no point to vote-out a plan
13:11:12  <Wouterr> by voting against a plan
13:11:18  <planetmaker> it just gives bad carma
13:11:27  <V453000> planetmaker: it isnt a bad solution actually imo
13:11:40  <planetmaker> it is IMHO
13:11:50  <Ammler> :-)
13:12:03  <Ammler> hmm, I hate XeryusTC, does he have a plan?
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13:12:13  <V453000> -.-
13:12:16  * Mazur already has.
13:12:18  <planetmaker> it's just seemingly easy for those who cannot make up their mind or justify a descision
13:12:28  <Ammler> :-)
13:12:31  <planetmaker> then they can say "you do it wrong!"
13:12:35  <Barbaar> can't we do a revote between the top plans?
13:12:37  <planetmaker> instead of "this is nice because..."
13:12:39  <Ammler> sorry, I shouldn't make it unserious :-P
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13:13:54  <V453000> !screen
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13:14:20  <Wouterr_> !password
13:14:20  <PublicServer> Wouterr_: palest
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13:16:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh lol
13:16:05  <Wouterr_> so much interesting plans
13:16:05  <planetmaker> so I basically hate the "new voting" for these two reasons: a) no need to think about plans during vote b) it tells people they / their work sucks which is bad per se, if not done for good reasons (which this isn't)
13:17:00  <planetmaker> but especially the latter part is what I don't like. It gives bad impressions to people trying to build a plan the first time
13:17:10  <^Spike^> did i miss something?
13:17:19  <planetmaker> Most often the plans of the long-time users win anyway. Telling new ones "this is bad" wouldn't be nice ;-)
13:17:26  <planetmaker> ^Spike^, nope ;-)
13:17:41  <^Spike^> hehe
13:17:51  <^Spike^> i guess that is the default answer to my question there :)
13:18:38  <planetmaker> damn...! ;-)
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13:19:42  <^Spike^> and then i just go away again ;')
13:19:47  <^Spike^> you give me nothing to do :D
13:20:37  <planetmaker> of course I do: do party with us on Saturday
13:20:43  <^Spike^> oh..
13:20:44  <^Spike^> cause..
13:21:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> Mazur: can you revote?
13:21:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> plan B is gone
13:22:03  <Wouterr_> what is the reason?
13:22:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> a) this will not work as well as I thought
13:22:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> b) trying to figure out the voting
13:23:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> lets screw plan A too
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13:24:02  <Wouterr_> u want to start building it seems :)
13:24:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> the thing is I cant see any difference between B and Wouterrs plan besides he calls a massive Sbahn 2ndary ICE feeder ...
13:24:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh ok, +2 TL and 1 less line here
13:24:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> -.-
13:24:47  <Wouterr_> i dont have a mega transfer area :)
13:24:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> but it will result in the same
13:25:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> the 1 global ICE will have to get massive stations
13:25:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> to make it actually work
13:25:26  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> i have bits of barbaar, plan B and plan C :)
13:25:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> plan B has nothing to do with it
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13:26:49  <Wouterr_> arent massive stations awesome?
13:27:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> i havent said anything about that
13:27:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> I just say your plan is a copy of C
13:27:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
13:27:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> only written in other words
13:27:52  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> hmm it does look verry allike :)
13:28:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> it works the same :)
13:28:05  <planetmaker> plan cleansing Inc.; CEO: V453000
13:28:14  <V453000> ? :D
13:28:30  <V453000> we need some result
13:28:39  <planetmaker> "let's get rid of plan X", "let's get rid of plan Y" ;-)
13:28:54  <planetmaker> I'm not criticising :-)
13:28:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> im trying to get the best working plan for the game :)
13:29:46  <Wouterr_> ^Spike^: still has to vote :)
13:30:00  <^Spike^> i'm not sure if i'm gonna play :)
13:30:10  <^Spike^> i find it not fair that i vote while not playing
13:32:11  <Wouterr_> i see
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13:38:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah good job Yso :D that helped the voting
13:39:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> :P
13:40:04  <Yso> maybe it's time for a run-off voting between these 2 plans
13:40:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> these plans are identical ...
13:40:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> we are deciding between these two or Mark
13:40:56  <Wouterr> u can choose between 4 and 6 ICE stations :)
13:41:15  <ODM> go for 5
13:41:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> we can make a compromise
13:42:02  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> btw V, are those Sbahns also with transfer stations on your plan?
13:42:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> ?
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13:42:58  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> your sBahns are connected to every station in that area right?
13:43:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> ugh
13:43:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> well all Sbahns to one station
13:43:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> which is the ICE terminal ...
13:43:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> how else
13:44:17  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> then the plans are not the same
13:44:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> then I dont get the point of yours
13:44:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> what else are you trying to do than get all pax from cities to he ML and to the other ICE terminals?
13:45:43  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> my sbahns are transfered on other trains to bring them to the global ICE
13:45:58  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> your Sbahns bring it directly to the ICE
13:46:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
13:46:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> and that is exactly the same
13:46:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> Sbahns dont have to be all that direct
13:47:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> therefore, your "other trains" are Sbahns too
13:47:19  <Yso> now i am confused...
13:48:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> see? now you confused Yso :)
13:48:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> fix him :)
13:48:35  <Wouterr> me too :)
13:48:57  <Yso> i voted for Wouteers plan because i seemed to have circles as local networks (like mine has) and not a starnetwork (what i assume is the standard variant)
13:49:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> Yso: since local networks arent in most plans, they depend on builder
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13:51:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi :)
13:51:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> please change your vote
13:51:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> plan B is out
13:51:16  <Yso> hm, then there arent much options with this long but narrow map and both plans are indeed alike
13:51:18  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I only voted B because there was no vote for it yet, anyway.  ;-P
13:53:00  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Btw, "we" won.  :-P
13:53:19  <Yso> mostly by accident :P
13:54:05  <PublicServer> <Mazur> SO we won with 1-0, on that score,  but then another one would have fallen anyway, again.
13:54:32  <PublicServer> <Mazur> The trouble was just breaking through once.
13:56:34  <Yso> that's true, but i think that nl has not used it's potential today, i had expected more
13:57:01  <Mazur> Everyone did.  But the Danish defense was massive.
13:57:41  <Mazur> And it was a first game, losing had tpo be avoided at almost all cost.
13:57:57  <Mazur> So nerves played a role.
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13:59:32  <Mazur> Things can only get better, you saw that when Elia was brought on.
14:00:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> well
14:00:40  <Yso> cant argue against that, but was is really missing is robben, he brings more movement and creativity into the nl game
14:01:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think we should play plan by Mark
14:03:43  <Mazur> I think we should play any one of the plans.
14:03:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> ...
14:04:15  <Mazur> \me no experience with Coop Pax play, /me not know which one best.
14:04:29  * Mazur stoopid greenie.
14:04:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> both of these plans work
14:04:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> none is best :)
14:05:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> they only bring different results :)
14:05:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> Mark has only a more complex plan
14:05:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> because the ICE terminals are quite random :)
14:07:30  <Mazur> I see.
14:08:15  <Mazur> Ofr: ICE.
14:08:17  <Mazur> -f
14:08:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> so if I discard my third plan now, wouterr will win and that is of no effect, becuse he just copied mine ... also, Mark has a more complex, but less demanding plan, therefore more new-friendly
14:08:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> and since we have a lot players unexperienced in pax games, I would go for that
14:09:50  <Mazur> Well,  I can't recast my vote to Mark, because I already voted for it.
14:10:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> I know, me neither :)
14:10:15  <Mazur> Bah, copymonkey.
14:10:18  <Mazur> ;-)
14:10:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
14:10:43  <Yso> i can and i did trusting Vs judgement
14:11:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok
14:11:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
14:11:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> I declare Mark a winner
14:11:40  <V453000> @stage Building
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14:11:42  <V453000> done
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14:15:25  <PublicServer> <Mazur> 1 and 2 shouod be more north?
14:15:36  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> hmm 1 vote difference, and alredy a winner
14:15:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> Mazur: the scheme shows this
14:15:56  <PublicServer> <Mazur> It shows 8.
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14:16:20  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ah, .like that.
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14:16:39  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I read 3 and 4 at 5 and 6.
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14:17:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> ready
14:18:10  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Go!
14:18:52  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> are u sure BBH1 and 2 are correct?
14:18:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
14:19:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> how else
14:19:23  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> more north
14:19:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> hmm
14:19:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> well
14:19:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think Mark mean this way
14:19:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> but we can move them
14:19:56  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Someone get Mark out of bed.
14:20:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> Mark is not coming :)
14:20:24  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Lazy sod.
14:20:46  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> looking at the water on the plan i think its more north
14:20:47  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Anyway, drinks on me.  To celebrate the 2-0, regardless.
14:21:59  <Wouterr> :)
14:22:33  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> build?
14:22:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> yea
14:23:38  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> ow TL10 eek
14:23:49  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yeah.
14:23:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> and merciless 231 kh :)
14:23:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> 321 kmh :)
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14:24:50  <Wouterr> is it electrified rail right?
14:24:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure
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14:25:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> we will have the engines in few years
14:25:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> so you can see :)
14:26:10  <PublicServer> <Owen> LLL_?_RRR?
14:26:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> LL_RR
14:26:16  <PublicServer> <Mazur> LL5RR
14:26:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> ye
14:26:20  <PublicServer> <Owen> Aah
14:26:21  <PublicServer> <Owen> OK :)
14:27:18  <PublicServer> * Mazur breathes on his nails and polishes them modestly.
14:27:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> wtf
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14:38:35  <PublicServer> <Owen> Heh, am I the only one who intends to build a BBH? :P
14:38:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> im building too
14:38:47  <PublicServer> <Owen> Then label it :p
14:39:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> meh
14:39:27  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I had not expected that.
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14:39:40  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Your style is usually much smoother.
14:40:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont know which type of smoothness but whatever :)
14:40:34  <PublicServer> <Owen> Whats the CL?
14:40:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> 10
14:40:48  <PublicServer> <Owen> Ooh fun :P
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14:42:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> the ML will be intense :)
14:42:33  <PublicServer> <Mazur> BBH04 sign gone.
14:42:46  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> its still there :)
14:43:00  <PublicServer> <Owen> Haha
14:43:12  <PublicServer> <Mazur>  BBH 04 sign gone, then.
14:43:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> that was silly OwenS :D
14:43:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> Mazur: it only didnt have space in front
14:44:07  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Same effect, but thank you.
14:44:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> @gap 10
14:44:14  <V453000> @gap 10
14:44:14  <Webster> V453000: For Trainlength of 10: <= 16 needs 2, 17 - 28 needs 3, 29 - 40 needs 4.
14:44:17  <V453000> yea
14:44:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> webster lies anyways
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14:48:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> too many vehicles
14:50:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> ready
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14:53:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> OwenS: you got to use these bridges :)
14:53:31  <PublicServer> <Owen> Crap, I'm thinking the wrong way arround :p
14:53:35  <PublicServer> <Owen> No biggie though, easy fix
14:53:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure :)
14:53:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> just noting
14:53:47  <PublicServer> <Owen> (Remember: last pax game was left hand drive :p
14:54:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> dont even tell me :)
14:54:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> btw. nex pax game = japan ... I found out how to set them to maglev again
14:54:38  <PublicServer> <Owen> =)
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14:54:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> CL2! :p
14:54:51  <PublicServer> <Owen> OMGZORS
14:55:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> I wonder why do you move half the hub into the lake :d
14:55:56  <PublicServer> <Owen> Me?
14:55:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> ye
14:56:05  <PublicServer> <Owen> I was following the sign :p
14:56:09  <PublicServer> <Owen> Meh, it will look good :p
14:56:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
14:56:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> dont forget to name the hub an underwater dog :d
14:56:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> .)
14:56:49  <PublicServer> <Owen> lol
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15:01:05  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> terrible long CL
15:01:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
15:04:03  <PublicServer> <Owen> I must agree that the CL is a PITA :p
15:04:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> its ok :)
15:04:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> yet
15:04:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> it will be harder to make all MSHs as needed
15:05:24  <PublicServer> <Owen> I'm so glad I can just take the southbound connector off of this BBHA :p
15:05:38  <PublicServer> <Owen> (I'm intending to take the southeast =))
15:06:16  <Vitus> !dl win32
15:06:16  <PublicServer> Vitus: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19967/openttd-trunk-r19967-windows-win32.zip
15:07:41  <Vitus> !password
15:07:41  <PublicServer> Vitus: leases
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15:08:07  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey
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15:10:15  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hmm, I'll try BBH03
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15:13:26  <PublicServer> <Owen> V453000: OK, the junction itself is done :p
15:13:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> I see :D
15:13:33  <PublicServer> * Owen thinks the huge bridges look awesome :p
15:15:21  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> ok BBH02 almost done
15:15:27  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> it's just massive
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15:16:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> hhahahaaaaa
15:16:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> my fav engine is hiya
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15:17:06  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Not hee-haa?  A.k.a." the Donkey"?
15:17:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> see train 1 acceleration
15:17:44  <PublicServer> <Vitus> 56k hp, not bad :D
15:17:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
15:17:49  <PublicServer> <Vitus> And max TE 831kN
15:18:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> TE is fix
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15:18:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> hp adds up with more powered wagons
15:18:15  <PublicServer> <Intexon> hi
15:18:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
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15:20:09  <PublicServer> <Owen> 07 is done
15:20:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
15:21:30  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Your inner bridges are not synched,
15:21:43  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Just FYI.
15:22:34  <PublicServer> <Mazur> And neither are the west two pairs.
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15:22:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> screw sync
15:23:03  <PublicServer> <Intexon> the lakes between 04 and 06 are gonna be bridged I suppose
15:23:04  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I should be so lucky.
15:23:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> intexon: yea
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15:24:58  <PublicServer> <Mazur> But why screw synching when you now have the freedom and space to synch them?
15:25:31  <PublicServer> <Intexon> what is the CL here? is it 10?
15:25:35  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes.
15:25:40  <PublicServer> <Intexon> okay
15:26:04  <PublicServer> <Mazur> LL5RR, too, in case you were wondering.
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15:27:13  <PublicServer> <Intexon> that actually does the plan say, it doesn't say which engine will be used and CL quite depends on this
15:27:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> which kinda means the fastest
15:27:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> and since sunset is unquestionably the best here, ...
15:27:58  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Erm, V, screw signalling, too?
15:28:02  <PublicServer> <Mazur> ;-)
15:28:03  <PublicServer> <Intexon> :D
15:28:23  <PublicServer> <Intexon> I gotta take a look at the train set first
15:28:29  <PublicServer> <Owen> V453000: Sync hopefully fixed :p
15:28:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> I didnt say you need to sync it
15:29:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> look at wouterr, he synches with the X and sacrifices CL
15:29:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> (please fix)
15:29:15  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I just remarked it wasn't.
15:30:06  <PublicServer> <Owen> V453000: OK, the northbound bridge is synced because it doesn't violate CL. The east-to-north isn't because its impossible to not violate CL while doing so
15:30:08  <Wouterr> i sacrifice CL?
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15:30:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes you do wouterr :)
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15:30:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok and someone awesome is signalling my hub
15:31:05  <PublicServer> <Mazur> What am I doin g wrong there, this gtime, V?
15:31:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> everything
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15:32:09  <perk11> !password
15:32:09  <PublicServer> perk11: fouled
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15:32:48  <Wouterr> ok, V can u tell me where my CL is bad?
15:33:04  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> ah there :)
15:33:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> btw  that bridge split is also quite bad :)
15:33:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> and solves the sync :)
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15:34:40  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> ok fixed :)
15:34:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
15:35:34  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> can i build an !ice terminal
15:36:43  <Estaf> !password
15:36:43  <PublicServer> Estaf: fouled
15:36:53  <PublicServer> <Owen> BBH05 and 08 connected :)
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15:37:04  <PublicServer> <Owen> 07**
15:37:16  <Pirate87> !dl win32
15:37:16  <PublicServer> Pirate87: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19967/openttd-trunk-r19967-windows-win32.zip
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15:37:52  <Pirate87> !password
15:37:52  <PublicServer> Pirate87: fouled
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15:40:32  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> hi guys
15:40:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
15:40:45  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey
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15:41:21  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> i timed the comeback just right :)
15:44:05  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> what's the CL on the ML ?
15:44:11  <PublicServer> <Vitus> 10
15:44:23  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> 10 !?!?
15:44:37  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> like 20 half tiles ?
15:44:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> you can use also 11 if you dont like :)
15:44:55  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> that's quite a lot
15:45:44  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> seriously, 20 half tiles ? how fast will the trains be ?
15:45:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> see train 1
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15:47:13  <Estaf> !password
15:47:13  <PublicServer> Estaf: doping
15:47:15  <Wouterr> @gap 10 20
15:47:15  <Webster> Wouterr: For Trainlength of 10: 209 - 220 needs 19, 221 - 232 needs 20, 233 - 244 needs 21.
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15:47:32  <Wouterr> @gap 10
15:47:32  <Webster> Wouterr: For Trainlength of 10: <= 16 needs 2, 17 - 28 needs 3, 29 - 40 needs 4.
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15:48:27  <PublicServer> <Vitus> BBH 03 hopefully done
15:48:34  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> i guess i should keep the TF to the minimum
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15:48:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> Pirate87: just as you need
15:49:16  <PublicServer> <Pirate87> what about the water ?
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15:53:06  <Vitus> @gap 10
15:53:06  <Webster> Vitus: For Trainlength of 10: <= 16 needs 2, 17 - 28 needs 3, 29 - 40 needs 4.
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15:55:17  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Damn it :D
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16:11:28  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Owen, are you here?
16:11:51  <PublicServer> <Owen> Yes
16:12:03  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Look !here
16:12:09  <PublicServer> <Owen> Yeah?
16:12:16  <PublicServer> <Vitus> You should probably leave some signals gaps because of the long bridges ahead
16:12:24  <PublicServer> <Owen> Hmm true
16:12:47  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Also the split has slow corner
16:12:54  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Just move it somewhere !here
16:13:00  <PublicServer> <Owen> GP
16:13:45  <PublicServer> <Vitus> :)
16:14:48  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Same goes for the other side. I'll fix it, if you don't mind :)
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16:15:34  <PublicServer> <Owen> sure :)
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16:33:16  <Estaf> !password
16:33:16  <PublicServer> Estaf: pokers
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16:37:27  <Drury> !companies
16:37:29  <PublicServer> Drury: Company 1 (Orange): MonkeyWasters Ltd
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16:48:58  <PublicServer> <Vitus> This should do the trick :)
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16:49:04  <PublicServer> <Intexon> why PBS?
16:49:11  <PublicServer> <Intexon> I don't see any point
16:49:35  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Let's try it, shall we?
16:49:52  <PublicServer> <Intexon> fine
16:51:10  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Wasn't really noticeable now :/
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16:52:22  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Now
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16:52:53  <Julian> !download
16:52:53  <PublicServer> Julian: !download autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|win32|win64|win9x
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16:53:05  <Julian> !download win64
16:53:05  <PublicServer> Julian: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19967/openttd-trunk-r19967-windows-win64.zip
16:53:15  <Julian> thanks!
16:53:18  <PublicServer> <Vitus> ... :D
16:54:39  <PublicServer> <Vitus> See? :)
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16:55:04  <PublicServer> <Vitus> I agree that it's just hypothetic case
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16:55:12  <PublicServer> <Intexon> hmm
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16:55:48  <PublicServer> <Intexon> I gotta go for now
16:56:01  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Take care
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16:56:12  <PublicServer> <Intexon> thank you for help
16:56:45  <Wouterr> oh damn, mixed up left and right :(
16:57:03  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> oh no i didn't fhew
16:57:11  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Huh?
16:57:28  <Julian> !help
16:57:28  <PublicServer> Julian: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands
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16:59:15  <Julian> !password
16:59:15  <PublicServer> Julian: simile
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17:09:24  <Vitus> !screen
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17:12:41  <ralph_> !password
17:12:41  <PublicServer> ralph_: quells
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17:13:12  <Wouterr> how much platforms should an ice station have?
17:13:17  <PublicServer> <ralph> hi all
17:13:20  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey
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17:16:15  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Wouterr, take a look at your BBH 01
17:17:04  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Most of them are zig-zags
17:17:12  <PublicServer> <Vitus> There are few "classic" slow corners, though
17:17:25  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> those work
17:17:35  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> look at train 1
17:18:43  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> damn i suck at CL :)
17:20:11  <V453000> !password
17:20:11  <PublicServer> V453000: quells
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17:20:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi again :)
17:20:34  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey
17:20:40  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> so basically a train can be only in 1 turn at a time?
17:21:06  <PublicServer> <Vitus> It can be in 2 at the same time
17:21:19  <PublicServer> <Vitus> But they cannot be in same direction
17:21:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> but not in 3 different directions
17:21:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
17:21:34  <PublicServer> <Vitus> :D
17:22:18  <Wouterr> luckaly the coal mine died
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17:24:28  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Should be OK now
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17:25:04  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> :)
17:25:05  <PublicServer> <Vitus> V., can you check this cl?
17:25:07  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Not sure about it
17:26:20  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> thats one i guess
17:27:26  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> still one too short
17:27:36  <PublicServer> <Vitus> 9+1=10
17:27:39  <PublicServer> <Vitus> No no no
17:28:15  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> grr this long CL is confusing me
17:28:18  <PublicServer> <Vitus> :P
17:29:01  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> don't get it
17:29:06  <PublicServer> <Vitus> sec
17:30:28  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Saw that?
17:30:32  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> interesting
17:31:20  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Is it clear now?
17:31:33  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> ok thanks :)
17:31:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> :( my caterpillar stopped :(
17:31:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> :(
17:31:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> :p
17:32:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh that is some other caterpillar
17:32:08  <elho> !help
17:32:08  <PublicServer> elho: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands
17:32:08  <PublicServer> <Vitus> :D
17:32:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> meh :)
17:32:16  <PublicServer> <Vitus> CL demonstration :)
17:33:23  <PublicServer> <Vitus> V., are these gaps (!here) also on purpose?
17:33:31  <PublicServer> <Vitus> I wasn't sure so I'm asking
17:33:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> arent, but wouldnt hurt (that) much
17:34:03  <PublicServer> <Vitus> k
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17:36:07  <Wouterr> so how much platforms should an ICE station have?
17:37:00  <elho> @quickstart
17:37:02  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart
17:37:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> not many
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17:37:57  <PublicServer> <Vitus> I'm going off, take care!
17:37:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> since the loading speeds are really instant
17:38:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> cy
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17:38:19  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> 6 or 8?
17:38:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> 8
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17:39:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> I wana see that with CL 10 :)
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17:41:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok im taking over the middle ~island :)
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17:48:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> ha
17:48:19  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> :)
17:48:30  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> the dutch text is wrong
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17:57:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
17:58:10  <PublicServer> <Intexon> boot here boot there
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18:05:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> :<
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18:09:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> Intexon: you got there some friendly bridges that want a party with BBH 04
18:09:19  <PublicServer> <Intexon> see ;)
18:09:25  <PublicServer> <Owen> What happened to Pirate87?
18:09:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> died
18:09:44  <PublicServer> <Owen> Heh V, MSH01 already? :p
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18:10:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> well
18:10:11  <PublicServer> <Owen> Well if you're doing that, I'm building Minwood Central Station :p
18:10:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> BBHs are mostly done
18:10:29  <PublicServer> <Owen> Hmm no
18:10:32  <PublicServer> <Owen> Make it Brinwood CS :p
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18:12:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
18:12:20  <PublicServer> <Intexon> connecting the world
18:12:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> indeed
18:13:06  <PublicServer> <Intexon> I'm connecting 04 with 03 then
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18:28:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> and stay :p
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18:30:41  <avdg> hi
18:30:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> hello
18:30:54  <PublicServer> <Intexon> hey
18:30:57  <avdg> back with internet :p
18:31:01  <avdg> stopid provider
18:32:08  <avdg> compiling … :p
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18:33:37  <PublicServer> <Intexon> another train-bouncer?!?
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18:36:33  <PublicServer> <Owen> Whoa, V's main station is huuuge :p
18:36:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> suur
18:36:42  <PublicServer> <avdg> fill it :p
18:36:53  <PublicServer> <Intexon> and what's worse, it's bouncing trains :P
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18:38:28  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol V: 3 plans?
18:38:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
18:38:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> in the beginning nobody was posting plans
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18:38:52  <PublicServer> <avdg> did you followed the more plans more likely to win parody :p
18:38:56  <PublicServer> <avdg> oh
18:39:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont care if I win
18:39:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> I care if the winning plane is good ;)
18:39:11  <PublicServer> <avdg> :D
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18:41:03  <PublicServer> <avdg> damm... i need vacation
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18:41:57  <Wouterr> !password
18:41:57  <PublicServer> Wouterr: bidden
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18:42:51  <PublicServer> <Owen> Grr
18:42:54  <PublicServer> <Owen> Bloody local authority
18:43:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> KILL THEM!
18:43:09  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> nice looking turnaround station
18:43:21  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> V453000
18:43:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> almost 100 tiles length :D
18:43:35  <PublicServer> <Owen> V453000: Do you actually need the corners?
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18:43:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> you do
18:43:55  <PublicServer> <Owen> Hmm?
18:43:55  * elho looks at Max_Curve_Speed in the wiki and the about-curve-lengths blog entry and is confused
18:43:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> most of the time
18:44:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> sometimres they fuck up
18:44:06  <PublicServer> <Owen> Heh
18:44:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> im not sure, they dont hurt
18:44:15  <PublicServer> <Owen> Also, wouldn't it be better to enter to the bumpers?
18:44:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> with them, it is 100%
18:44:40  <elho> those are just rough estimates for the shorter CLs, right?
18:45:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> what do you call shorter
18:45:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> and they are exact
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18:46:09  <PublicServer> <Owen> V453000: Hurry up and let me send you some trains :p
18:46:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh you got a station too :)
18:46:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> nice CLs :)
18:46:53  <PublicServer> <Owen> Its right in the middle of a bunch of urban area... I'll accept some slowdowns :p
18:46:59  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> owen sens some to my station
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18:47:12  <PublicServer> <Owen> Wouterr: Its not on the station list...
18:47:25  <PublicServer> <Owen> And it accepts *nothing* :p
18:48:03  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> ok, "making an sbahn
18:48:45  <PublicServer> <avdg> poor town :p
18:49:00  <PublicServer> <Owen> hurry up you person :p
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18:49:20  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol
18:49:27  <PublicServer> <Owen> *cough*
18:49:40  <PublicServer> <avdg> chintbridge under heavy load :p
18:49:40  <PublicServer> <Owen> who? :p
18:49:45  <PublicServer> <Gnemonix> I swear my ISP hates me
18:49:48  <PublicServer> <avdg> im not building
18:50:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> I didnt briber
18:50:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> -r
18:51:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think
18:51:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think...
18:51:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> that
18:51:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> local authority sucks.
18:52:05  <PublicServer> <avdg> put it off :p
18:52:15  <PublicServer> <Owen> lol
18:52:40  <PublicServer> <Owen> Ok, BRI decorated :p
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18:52:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> ooh
18:52:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> :) letters
18:53:00  <orudge> Owen: mind saying something?
18:53:03  <PublicServer> <avdg> goverments sucks, the elections have proven that :p
18:53:08  <PublicServer> <Owen> orudge: sure
18:53:11  <PublicServer> <Owen> Hehe
18:53:17  <OwenS> Also, from IRC
18:53:24  <orudge> aha
18:53:25  <orudge> woo
18:53:26  <orudge> well
18:53:47  <orudge> at least at work now, where I am now using my IRC proxy, I can tell xchat not to highlight lines from OwenS or PublicServer
18:53:54  <orudge> so it should at least reduce the amount of highlighting going on in here :p
18:53:59  <OwenS> What? Why did I apparently just go away?
18:54:15  <orudge> hmm?
18:54:18  <orudge> well
18:54:21  <orudge> I use mIRC at home
18:54:23  <orudge> but xchat at work
18:54:27  <orudge> and xchat has an "exclude highlights" feature
18:54:48  <OwenS> orudge: BTW, the forum needs an OpenGFX style :p
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18:55:58  <avdg> are the screenshots working again? whoohoo...
18:56:07  <orudge> OwenS: feel free to make one :)
18:56:36  <OwenS> Heh :p
18:56:52  <OwenS> If only I were a graphics artist :p
18:57:13  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol, thats my badest dream :p
18:57:29  <PublicServer> <avdg> 1 designer -> no openttd?
18:57:40  <PublicServer> <Owen> V453000: Can I send shark island some pax? And does it have a proper number? :p
18:57:59  <PublicServer> <Owen> number? three letter acronym even
18:58:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> proper number?
18:58:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
18:58:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is shark island .
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18:58:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> acronym could be ASS
18:58:28  <PublicServer> <Owen> There :p
18:58:33  <PublicServer> <Owen> ASS Shark Island :p
18:58:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> awesome
18:58:51  <PublicServer> <Owen> Though IMO it should be NOM shark island
18:58:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> renamed
18:59:05  <PublicServer> <Owen> Home of the Smatz? :p
18:59:16  <PublicServer> <avdg> not a shark ass -> nasa
18:59:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> kind of
18:59:40  <PublicServer> <Owen> V453000: In that case its initialism is CAN :p
18:59:41  <PublicServer> <avdg> my creativity is gone :p
18:59:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> :(
18:59:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> I want full 4 letter acronym!
19:00:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> or LUV
19:00:54  <PublicServer> <avdg> don't make a smily :p
19:01:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> its a heart
19:01:40  <PublicServer> <Owen> Yes. Your TLA is officially a broken heart :p
19:02:08  <PublicServer> <avdg> :p I want more heights in that desing
19:02:27  <PublicServer> <avdg> ?
19:02:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> die
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19:04:17  <Max|> !password
19:04:17  <PublicServer> Max|: sunset
19:04:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> now with appropriate candy
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19:05:54  <PublicServer> <avdg> beer?
19:05:59  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol
19:06:08  <SmatZ> beer beer beer
19:06:25  * SmatZ bought 160 beers today
19:06:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> xD
19:06:35  <SmatZ> should be enough for few weeks :)
19:06:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> few = 2 I suppose :)
19:06:52  <SmatZ> hehe :)
19:07:22  <PublicServer> <Owen> 80 a week... 11.1 a day..
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19:08:01  <PublicServer> <Owen> lol industrial strength beer casks :p
19:08:08  <SmatZ> :)
19:08:26  <PublicServer> <avdg> tjuBEERnami
19:08:41  <PublicServer> <avdg> brb
19:08:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> gettin beer?
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19:09:10  <PublicServer> <avdg> maybe, bad day
19:09:24  <OwenS> Grr Pirate87
19:09:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> wee
19:09:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> wee
19:09:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> wee
19:09:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> first train
19:09:49  <PublicServer> <Owen> Hehe
19:09:52  <PublicServer> <Owen> With a pax
19:09:54  <PublicServer> <avdg> crash crash crash :p
19:09:55  <PublicServer> <Owen> Yes. One passenger.
19:10:01  <PublicServer> <avdg> record
19:10:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> wow
19:10:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> this is a luxury :D
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19:10:29  <PublicServer> <avdg> brb
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19:11:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> mofos
19:11:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> OwenS: wtf at that full load orders :D
19:12:06  <PublicServer> <Owen> V453000: Get some station rating
19:12:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> screw that
19:12:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
19:12:29  <PublicServer> <Owen> My ends gotta compete against planes
19:12:32  <Max|> !password
19:12:32  <PublicServer> Max|: dapper
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19:21:50  <Wouterr> hmm which trains do i take for an sbahn?
19:21:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> Colorado
19:22:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> (I guess)
19:22:21  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> DMU or bi-level DMU?
19:22:21  <PublicServer> <Owen> Why specifically? :)
19:22:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> guess
19:22:27  <PublicServer> <Owen> DMU? Eww
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19:27:34  <PublicServer> <avdg> bck
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19:27:52  <Macha> !password
19:27:53  <PublicServer> Macha: levies
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19:28:17  <Macha> !dl lin64
19:28:17  <PublicServer> Macha: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19967/openttd-trunk-r19967-linux-generic-amd64.tar.bz2
19:28:47  <Macha> Was the revision changed since game start? Coulda sworn it was 19950
19:28:56  <PublicServer> <avdg> yeah
19:28:57  <PublicServer> <Owen> Yes it was
19:28:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
19:28:59  <PublicServer> <Owen> PM didn't update
19:29:11  <PublicServer> <avdg> need a binary?
19:29:16  <Macha> Nope, downloading now
19:29:17  <planetmaker> I didn't?
19:30:16  <Wouterr> hmm my sbahn looks cool
19:30:36  <PublicServer> <avdg> nice$
19:30:42  <PublicServer> <avdg> *nice
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19:32:07  <PublicServer> <Owen> Wouterr: FLA doesnt' accept passengers
19:32:08  <PublicServer> <avdg> do we have subnetworks?
19:32:22  <PublicServer> <avdg> the layer between town and network
19:32:34  <PublicServer> <avdg> :/
19:32:36  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> oops
19:32:46  <PublicServer> <Owen> Wouterr: Also, your S-Bahn as designed can't work
19:33:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> im glad someone noticed :)
19:33:16  <PublicServer> <Owen> Under SRNW the train must go straight back to the MS after each station
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19:33:26  <PublicServer> <avdg> :)
19:33:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> that isnt true OwenS
19:33:33  <PublicServer> <avdg> I really don't care atm
19:33:38  <PublicServer> <Owen> V453000: Well, under SRNW S-Bahns :p
19:33:41  <PublicServer> <Macha> Question - BBH 08. It's connecting to BBH 07, and what? Across the ocean?
19:33:50  <PublicServer> <Owen> Yeah
19:33:52  <Wouterr> well it's a little test so we will see :)
19:33:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> well yeah, you are right :)
19:33:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> now I see
19:34:00  <PublicServer> <Macha> I'm going to give building it a try. (Shock and horror will progbably occur)
19:34:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
19:34:00  <PublicServer> <Owen> Across the ocean and down the southwest
19:34:13  <PublicServer> <Owen> Macha: Remember, TL10
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19:34:17  <Phazorx> btw we should try MPSR for pax one day
19:34:24  <OwenS> MPSR?
19:34:36  <PublicServer> <avdg> massive?
19:34:39  <PublicServer> <avdg> ?
19:35:04  <Phazorx> err spelling issues MSRN
19:35:16  <Phazorx> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/MSRN
19:35:54  <Phazorx> it's like srnw but trains CAN do more than one thing per loop
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19:36:59  <avdg> that was V's network in 1 of the previous games
19:37:04  <avdg> kinda
19:37:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> wtf
19:37:54  <avdg> V just added balancers
19:38:13  <PublicServer> <avdg> ?
19:38:41  <Phazorx> balancers where?
19:38:51  <avdg> at the exits
19:39:04  <avdg> so the network was balanced all the time
19:39:21  <Phazorx> err... SRNW is station based concepts it cares not about network
19:39:38  <Phazorx> so i fail to see how balancers at extis to network can make it multy targeted
19:39:59  <avdg> donno wich game
19:40:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> I believe you mean 180 but I think you are quite out of topic :)
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19:40:25  <PublicServer> <avdg> maybe :p
19:41:21  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> ok FLA accepts pax now
19:42:01  <Phazorx> MSRN is a nice way to do uncontrolled pax to some extent
19:42:35  <Phazorx> unless there is a visible dominating city on the loop whoch provides more than 50% of pax, it would work nice
19:44:01  <Phazorx> but tat is toay different fro sbahn/ice concept though
19:44:11  <Phazorx> *that is totaly
19:44:24  <Phazorx> essentially trains will act as taxi cabs
19:44:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> is that a disadvantage? :)
19:44:36  <Phazorx> well not in general
19:44:40  <Phazorx> it's a different design
19:44:56  <Phazorx> most likely will earn less but might transport more pax
19:45:04  <Phazorx> and totaly different challengers
19:45:14  <Phazorx> *challenges
19:45:21  <Paul2> ac
19:45:26  <Paul2> er whoops
19:45:44  <PublicServer> <Macha> Stupid touchpad clicking randomly :(
19:45:48  <Phazorx> it could be fn though... if we can come up with some scalable design
19:45:50  <PublicServer> <Owen> Are we ever gonna get town growth on? :p
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19:46:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
19:46:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> lets play with small
19:47:46  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> hmm cant give my tram orders
19:48:05  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> ah nvm
19:48:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> wut?
19:48:20  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> made goods stations
19:52:26  <PublicServer> <avdg> that train is kinda detouring :p
19:52:30  <PublicServer> <avdg> train 3
19:52:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes, whatever
19:52:44  <PublicServer> <avdg> what with the lake?
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19:56:56  <Macha> Ack! Screenshotting me screwing up :P
19:57:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> btw you have short curves
19:57:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> in this game we need extremely long
19:57:25  <perk11> !password
19:57:25  <PublicServer> perk11: flocks
19:57:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> 10
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19:58:11  <PublicServer> <Macha> kk
19:58:44  <PublicServer> <avdg> small trains :p
19:59:04  <PublicServer> <avdg> 20 deadlock
19:59:18  <PublicServer> <Owen> ?
19:59:25  <PublicServer> <Owen> oh
19:59:26  <PublicServer> <Owen> lol
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20:00:32  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol
20:00:39  <PublicServer> <avdg> genius network
20:01:08  <PublicServer> <Owen> ?
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20:01:49  <PublicServer> <avdg> all trains are ok I guess
20:04:32  <PublicServer> <Macha> Any better now? (Re: earlier curves complaint)
20:04:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> do you know what CL10 is? :)
20:05:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> @cl
20:05:29  <V453000> @cl
20:05:29  <Webster> cl: Curve Length, mostly used to describe how big a curve must be to let pass trains with a certain TL at full speed, see also: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Max_Curve_Speed
20:06:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> hm that doesnt say muc
20:06:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> you just need 10 tiles long curves
20:06:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> all of them
20:06:15  <PublicServer> <Macha> kk
20:06:33  <perk111> http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2009/05/13/about-curve-lengths/
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20:07:51  <PublicServer> <avdg> 8 -> deadlock -> wouter?
20:08:11  <PublicServer> <avdg> use 2way
20:08:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> it will not work either way
20:08:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> as Owen already said
20:08:28  <PublicServer> <avdg> ?
20:08:36  <PublicServer> <avdg> why?
20:08:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> SRNW trains are unloading in additional stations
20:08:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> they mus load->transfer
20:08:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> not load->load->load->transfer
20:09:00  <PublicServer> <avdg> oh
20:09:27  <Wouterr> alredy changed it to not SRNW :)
20:09:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
20:10:04  <PublicServer> <avdg> wtf...
20:10:09  <PublicServer> <avdg> linking problems?
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20:10:18  <PublicServer> <avdg> i clicked on a airpot
20:10:20  <PublicServer> <avdg> then planes
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20:10:28  <PublicServer> <avdg> and i see a list of ships
20:10:41  <PublicServer> <perk11> me too
20:10:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol
20:10:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> nice bug
20:10:56  <PublicServer> <avdg> planetmaker?
20:11:08  <PublicServer> * avdg thinks he is active
20:11:21  * planetmaker pretends to be not here
20:11:32  <avdg> lol
20:11:36  <PublicServer> * V453000 hugs nowhere
20:11:59  <avdg> riight, I want to take my camera now :p
20:12:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> ass
20:12:49  <planetmaker> eeew. camera and ass. Please spare us!
20:12:58  <avdg> did anyone notice that bug in the past?
20:13:04  <planetmaker> what bug?
20:13:23  <planetmaker> the fixed one that ship and airplane buttons are swapped somewhere?
20:13:33  <avdg> yeah, maybe
20:13:45  <avdg> 90% sure
20:13:55  <avdg> is that fixed?
20:13:57  <PublicServer> <perk11> oh
20:14:11  <PublicServer> <perk11> I've posted to the tracker :(
20:14:18  <PublicServer> <avdg> k
20:15:07  <planetmaker> don't worry perk11
20:15:19  <PublicServer> <perk11> k
20:15:20  <planetmaker> but the version number is quite important in a bug report
20:15:20  <PublicServer> <avdg> perk: give also the version number
20:16:14  <PublicServer> <avdg> :p please in the main post
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20:16:31  <PublicServer> <avdg> or can't he?
20:16:47  <planetmaker> he can't.
20:16:54  <PublicServer> <avdg> k
20:17:34  <planetmaker> also: perk111 there's probably more than one airport :-) So the savegame alone is a bit ambigeous
20:18:01  <PublicServer> <perk11> that works with every airport I believe
20:18:20  <planetmaker> perk111: I do believe so, too :-)
20:18:34  <planetmaker> but if you click on ships you'll get the list of planes
20:18:43  <PublicServer> <perk11> ok
20:19:25  <planetmaker> http://hg.openttd.org/openttd/trunk.hg/rev/a9f2d0977ed9
20:19:30  <PublicServer> <avdg> we have too many planes I guess
20:19:35  <planetmaker> ^ which is the version exactly after this nightly :-)
20:19:54  <PublicServer> * Owen wonders why it works for hm
20:20:25  <planetmaker> perk111: but it's very good that you report bugs :-)
20:20:31  <perk111> thanks :)
20:20:31  <planetmaker> only reported bugs can be fixed :-)
20:21:49  <PublicServer> <avdg> :/ I wanna kill these notices
20:21:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> I want to kil local authoritis
20:23:15  <Wouterr> kill them all!
20:23:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> deal!
20:23:59  <avdg> pm: since when are these repositories also available in mercurial and git?
20:24:13  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> ok FLA is acceptinx pax, let the ICE trains come
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20:27:22  <V453000> !rcon set town_growth_rate 2
20:27:35  <V453000>   !rcon set town_growth_rate 2
20:27:37  <V453000> ;;)
20:27:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> tf
20:27:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> duh
20:27:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> well ... I just set town growth to 2
20:28:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
20:30:43  <PublicServer> <avdg> ..
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20:32:26  <Vitus> !password
20:32:26  <PublicServer> Vitus: alkali
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20:32:42  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey
20:32:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
20:33:07  <planetmaker> [22:23]	<avdg>	pm: since when are these repositories also available in mercurial and git? <-- dunno. At least since mid 2007
20:33:07  <PublicServer> <avdg> hey
20:33:19  <PublicServer> <avdg> wow
20:33:26  <PublicServer> <avdg> i missed a revolution
20:33:27  <PublicServer> <avdg> :p
20:34:01  <planetmaker> that is: as long as I look at OpenTTD source code ;-)
20:34:19  <PublicServer> <avdg> git is much easier for me to work with
20:34:27  <PublicServer> <perk11> why?
20:34:29  <PublicServer> <avdg> maybe hg, but I didn't try it
20:34:36  <PublicServer> <avdg> because I have the full copy
20:34:41  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hmmm, the ICE terminal connected to MSH01 looks awesome
20:34:45  <PublicServer> <avdg> im much offline
20:34:57  <PublicServer> <perk11> and why do you need full copy?
20:35:02  <PublicServer> <perk11> oh
20:35:02  <PublicServer> <perk11> ok
20:35:09  <planetmaker> avdg: personally I prefer hg :-)
20:35:25  <planetmaker> and since after wwottdgd/2 I've been working with it.
20:35:30  <PublicServer> <avdg> people say its better then git, but I really didn't give it a try
20:35:39  <planetmaker> 'better' is a strong word
20:35:44  <planetmaker> but it's possibly easier
20:35:54  <PublicServer> <avdg> and developping is not my thing, so long i'm here at home
20:35:55  <PublicServer> <perk11> avdg: that's right for me about svn
20:35:56  <planetmaker> but I didn't give git a try ;-)
20:36:38  <PublicServer> <avdg> so long I am informed is hg the most time the same as git
20:36:45  <planetmaker> perk111: if you want to test a few patches you got from the forums. Already then hg is superior to svn
20:36:47  <PublicServer> <avdg> *good informed
20:37:09  <perk111> planetmaker: why? I use patch -r0 <patch.patch
20:37:14  <perk111> and it works fine
20:37:34  <planetmaker> avdg: they differ in their branch treatment and other details in that respect
20:37:42  <planetmaker> perk111: and then the next patch is for another version
20:37:46  <planetmaker> then you checkout anew
20:37:57  <perk111> yes
20:37:58  <planetmaker> with hg you just (locally) update your repo
20:38:09  <perk111> I may update repo
20:38:13  <perk111> svn -r 1999
20:38:15  <PublicServer> <Intexon> I'm off for today, good night
20:38:19  <PublicServer> <avdg> gn
20:38:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> bye
20:38:21  <perk111> *svn up -r 1999
20:38:23  <planetmaker> perk111: which always queries the external server
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20:38:36  <planetmaker> with hg (and git) you have all revisions there.
20:38:38  <planetmaker> much faster
20:38:43  <perk111> I get it
20:39:07  <planetmaker> and you can easily compare versions
20:39:11  <PublicServer> <Macha> Didn't that article say each half tile in a diagonal curve = 1CL?
20:39:12  <PublicServer> <avdg> its just server-client vs distributed model
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20:39:42  <planetmaker> so unless someone commits to the svn repo and wants to play with patches, hg and git are better than svn
20:39:52  <planetmaker> they also offer better merge algorithms
20:40:10  <perk111> ok
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20:40:29  <PublicServer> <perk11> thanks for a lecture
20:40:33  <PublicServer> <avdg> :)
20:40:34  <planetmaker> :-)
20:40:40  <PublicServer> <avdg> make the switch!
20:40:45  <PublicServer> <avdg> no kidding
20:40:57  <planetmaker> and especially for maintaining a patchpack hg is nice
20:41:08  <PublicServer> <avdg> *no,
20:41:41  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Macha: Yes, that might be true.
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20:41:55  <PublicServer> <avdg> perk, just give it a shot: git and hq have both nice tutorials
20:42:01  <PublicServer> <Vitus> But it's wrong
20:42:05  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Look
20:43:01  <perk111> avdg: ok, I'll try it, but there are quite few projects I have to deal with which use git or hq
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20:43:03  <PublicServer> <Vitus> See?
20:43:07  <PublicServer> <Macha> Yup
20:43:21  <PublicServer> <Macha> So I need 20 halftiles?
20:43:26  <PublicServer> <Vitus> 19
20:43:29  <PublicServer> <Macha> kk
20:43:37  <PublicServer> <Vitus> The measuring tool should display "10"
20:43:53  <PublicServer> <Macha> *sigh* - stupid farm
20:46:38  <PublicServer> <Macha> So, curves better now?
20:46:44  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Yup
20:47:14  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Also mind the zig-zags. Don't think you have any there right now, though
20:48:02  <PublicServer> <avdg> what about the airports? do we need them?
20:48:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
20:48:11  <PublicServer> <avdg> k
20:48:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> we dont have almost any income yet
20:48:42  <PublicServer> <avdg> yeah
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20:49:33  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Macha, look here:
20:49:37  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol, almost a mill spend at planefuel
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20:50:12  <PublicServer> <avdg> hey kolo
20:50:16  <PublicServer> <Macha> What exactly should I be paying attention to?
20:50:19  <PublicServer> <Kolo> hi
20:50:26  <PublicServer> <Macha> The rail station?
20:50:55  <PublicServer> <Macha> Oh, never mind
20:50:56  <PublicServer> <Vitus> The "cl" sign
20:51:00  <PublicServer> <Macha> View skipped randomly
20:51:12  <Kolo> PAX game? - I don't like those :(
20:51:27  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Better :)
20:51:36  <Wun-Qu> !password
20:51:36  <PublicServer> Wun-Qu: sifted
20:51:45  <PublicServer> <Macha> Thanks
20:51:49  <PublicServer> <Vitus> The bridge is not synced now, though
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20:51:57  <PublicServer> <Vitus> You could have done it like this
20:51:58  <PublicServer> <avdg> hi
20:52:04  <Wun-Qu> Hello
20:52:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
20:52:12  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey
20:53:03  <PublicServer> <avdg> shouldn't we use the empty stations before the rating makes records?
20:53:06  <PublicServer> <Vitus> I'm going off, take care.
20:53:12  <PublicServer> <avdg> bye vitus
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20:53:21  <PublicServer> <Wun-Qu> :O you guys already built this much
20:53:25  <PublicServer> <Wun-Qu> c ya
20:54:10  <Vitus> Building with CL10 is superfun!
20:54:25  <Vitus> That's why I prefer TL3 :)
20:54:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> masochist :)
20:54:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> japan ftw!
20:54:50  <PublicServer> <Owen> yeah
20:54:54  <PublicServer> <Owen> TL10 CL2 FTW
20:54:57  <Yso> !password
20:54:57  <PublicServer> Yso: sifted
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20:55:14  <PublicServer> <avdg> hi yso
20:55:24  <PublicServer> <Wun-Qu> I prefer longer tls, are more beatiful
20:55:31  <Yso> hiho
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20:55:35  <PublicServer> <avdg> bah..
20:55:41  <PublicServer> <avdg> red pixels
20:55:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> Wun-Qu: ENEMY!
20:56:18  <Wun-Qu> muahahaha
20:57:48  <Vitus> I'm actually looking forward to building Sbahn, although I prefer cargo games. This is my first PAX game probably :)
21:01:11  <PublicServer> <avdg> poor breninghall :p
21:02:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> beer for sale
21:02:36  <SmatZ> beer!
21:02:46  <planetmaker> moooaaar beer!
21:02:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
21:03:08  <PublicServer> <Owen> Hah, C'Bahn V?
21:03:10  <SmatZ> :)
21:03:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> indeed
21:03:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> had to use the island positioning :)
21:06:13  <Vitus> SmatZ again :D
21:06:24  <Vitus> Still highlighting beer, eh? :)
21:06:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
21:06:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> SmatZ just feels the presence of beer
21:08:12  <PublicServer> <avdg> V? doesn't pudham need transfer?
21:08:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> I think we should ban local authorities from openttdcoop because they refuse to cooperate
21:08:41  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol
21:08:49  <PublicServer> <Owen> V453000: Or they should allow you to bribe the regional investigator :p
21:08:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
21:08:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> indeed
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21:09:14  <PublicServer> <avdg> hey, wb
21:09:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> happy, avdg?
21:09:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
21:09:58  <PublicServer> <avdg> yeah
21:10:07  <PublicServer> <avdg> didn't wanna touch it :p
21:10:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> wise decision
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21:12:02  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol, beer island
21:12:03  <PublicServer> <avdg> 1k
21:12:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> many people with hangover
21:12:23  <PublicServer> <avdg> yeah
21:12:32  <PublicServer> <avdg> waiting for beer
21:12:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
21:12:42  <PublicServer> <avdg> :p
21:12:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> the people are so pissed that they basically are beer
21:13:04  <PublicServer> <avdg> :)
21:13:08  <PublicServer> <Owen> V453000: When do we get town growth? :p
21:13:45  <PublicServer> <avdg> the incomen makes a bang!(tm)
21:15:06  <PublicServer> <avdg> what should we say to the passengers?
21:15:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> FUCK
21:15:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> YOU
21:15:13  <PublicServer> <avdg> network under full load?
21:15:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
21:15:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> ¨no
21:15:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> just tell them what I said
21:15:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> they wil understand
21:15:42  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol
21:16:43  <PublicServer> <Mazur> If they're British they should be used to it by now, gthey've been hearing it for years, now
21:16:45  <PublicServer> <avdg> wtf
21:16:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
21:16:55  <PublicServer> <avdg> incomen :D
21:19:37  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Wow, they even read my MIND!?!
21:19:40  <PublicServer> <Owen> =( Towns still on 2x2 grid. And no growth =(
21:20:12  <PublicServer> <avdg> expand in diameter
21:20:23  <PublicServer> <avdg> ?
21:20:35  <PublicServer> <Wun-Qu> bleh, gotta go
21:20:42  <PublicServer> <Wun-Qu> bye all
21:20:44  <PublicServer> <avdg> bye
21:20:55  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Bibi.
21:20:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> cya Wun-Qu
21:21:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> Owen: growth is on normal
21:21:06  <PublicServer> <Wun-Qu> this week is going to be a nightmare T_T
21:21:29  <PublicServer> <avdg> for me too
21:21:39  <PublicServer> <Owen> whoo
21:21:49  <PublicServer> <Owen> You didn't turn off otwn road building though
21:21:50  <PublicServer> <avdg> im feeling older this week
21:22:08  <PublicServer> <avdg> and there is no party
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21:22:52  <PublicServer> <Owen> Oh, towns build roads: off :)
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21:23:31  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Gets you challenging problems, though, removing Newgrfs
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21:24:05  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> hey guys
21:24:10  <PublicServer> <avdg> hey
21:24:15  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hi.
21:24:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
21:24:53  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> most BBHs done already eh?
21:25:07  <PublicServer> <Owen> Take BBH06 if you want
21:25:11  <PublicServer> <Owen> Pirate87 went missing :p
21:25:16  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Not all. though.
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21:26:53  <PublicServer> <Macha> Phew - nearly done my first BBH, just signals now
21:28:03  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> no balancing on BBH?
21:28:17  <PublicServer> <Owen> Barbaar: They're fricking huge already
21:28:23  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> yeah :)
21:29:51  <Vitus> Oh, perk111. You didn't have to open flyspray task for the switched ships/aircrafts buttons; it has been fixed in r19968
21:30:04  <PublicServer> <avdg> he knows it
21:30:09  <Vitus> Oh, OK
21:30:19  <PublicServer> <Macha> Ok, anyone want to comment on BBH 08? (Or, list of reasons why it sucks, please :P )
21:30:20  <perk111> :)
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21:31:49  <PublicServer> <avdg> fla is hitting limits :p
21:32:05  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> hehe
21:32:09  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> i'll have a go at BBH 06 then
21:32:16  <PublicServer> <avdg> I hope the fla doesn't mean flanders btw :p
21:32:29  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Doh.
21:32:34  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> no, flaningville :)
21:32:34  <PublicServer> * Owen brings ML over to 06
21:32:59  <Vitus> I'm going off - now definitely. Good night!
21:33:03  <PublicServer> <avdg> gn
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21:34:00  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I'm going to work further on my tomorrow morning hangover.
21:34:43  <PublicServer> <Mazur> As a defense against noisy first game win celebrations around here.
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21:35:07  <Wouterr> amusez vous
21:35:59  <PublicServer> <avdg> wouter: any expanding plans?
21:36:01  <PublicServer> <avdg> :p
21:36:06  <Barbaar> @gap 10
21:36:06  <Webster> Barbaar: For Trainlength of 10: <= 16 needs 2, 17 - 28 needs 3, 29 - 40 needs 4.
21:36:14  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> ill look in a sec
21:37:11  <Wouterr> was placing some signs on macha's hub
21:37:21  <PublicServer> <avdg> :)
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21:39:30  <Thraxian|Work> !password
21:39:30  <PublicServer> Thraxian|Work: altars
21:39:38  <PublicServer> <avdg> hey
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21:39:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
21:40:34  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> ah...is this in response to the recent blog article?
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21:40:42  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> ICE/SBahn :)
21:40:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> vice versa
21:40:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> blog article is the response :)
21:40:58  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> kk
21:41:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> although I also made the map ;)
21:41:14  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> I was disappointed that my Las Vegas wasn't even mentioned :)
21:41:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> I knew you will say that :)
21:41:24  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> haha
21:41:34  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> that had a SICK Sbahn
21:41:42  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> if only it could have handled the busses I had planned
21:41:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
21:41:48  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> that would have destroyed the server
21:42:17  <PublicServer> <Macha> Ok, made a few changes to the hub. Though I can't figure out how to get the formely single bridge synced in the space there.
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21:42:57  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> BBH08?
21:43:00  <PublicServer> <Macha> Yup
21:43:06  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> TL 10, right?
21:43:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
21:43:09  <PublicServer> <Macha> Yup
21:43:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> cl the same
21:46:07  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> flanningville growing bigtime
21:46:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
21:51:08  <Macha> Anyway, I gtg, bye
21:51:14  <PublicServer> <avdg> bye
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21:51:19  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> cya
21:51:21  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> gn
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21:54:26  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> V453, was !this a problem?
21:54:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
21:55:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> you can just do this
21:55:07  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> yeah ok
21:55:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> and save a lot of trouble
21:55:35  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> think the rest is ok
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21:56:13  <PublicServer> <Thraxian|Work> same problem exists at BBH01
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22:04:37  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> V, doesnt around !here have lots of double S turns?
22:04:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> indeed
22:05:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> I have no idea who added the bridges
22:05:27  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> i was looking at how to connect BBH 6 and noticed :)
22:06:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> good good :)
22:06:12  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> ow, can we have those bridges synced the other way? so easier on other side?
22:06:25  <PublicServer> <Mazur> "double S turns"?
22:07:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> Barbaar: ok?
22:07:07  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> 2 s-turns within one tl
22:07:10  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> yeah thanks
22:07:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> yw
22:07:24  <PublicServer> <Owen> What? Where?
22:07:26  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ah, ok.
22:07:39  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> already cleaned up Owen
22:08:30  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> noo, stupid steel mill
22:08:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> just go around
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22:10:32  <Yso> good night & hf building!
22:10:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> cya
22:10:37  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> gn
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22:10:49  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Bye., Yso.
22:11:39  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> FLA?
22:11:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> electricity
22:12:13  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> waah, just connected a bit and already train going over it
22:12:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> Barbaar: you are building a demanded connection :)
22:12:47  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> good :)
22:12:52  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> wasnt even signaled yet :p
22:14:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> roughly  7000 drunk people here
22:15:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> need transport
22:15:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> they wont vomit your trains, take them!
22:15:33  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I know Ruby Port, but nevr Trans Port.
22:16:33  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> what shall we do with the BBH 6-8 connection? More ugly bridges?
22:16:53  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Try tunnels?
22:16:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> no, just make the tracks fly
22:16:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> or take them under water
22:17:43  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Or boats.
22:17:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> ...
22:17:55  <PublicServer> * Mazur runs and hides.
22:18:39  <PublicServer> <Mazur> We\ll call them V's ferries.
22:18:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> of advanced intelligence
22:19:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> for example
22:19:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> :p
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22:22:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol TL3 trams
22:22:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> Pudham
22:22:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> TL2 at least
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22:26:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> CL10 is really badass, but these trains are just awesome :)
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22:33:32  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> right, think BBH 06 is all done and connected
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22:37:32  <Macha> So, how much of BBH 08 has had to be rebuilt since I left? :P
22:39:16  <Wouterr> none so far
22:39:23  <Mazur> ALl of it, V just bombed it and built a new one.
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22:39:56  <Mazur> You know how he is.
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22:41:35  <Macha> How does the city grow so fast? Could of sworn that was a village when I left.
22:41:45  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Those trams are crawling up each other's bums the whole time.  Juswt like dogs, they are.
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22:52:53  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> cya later everyone
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22:53:12  <Wouterr> gn
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23:01:17  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> allot ppl want to leave beer island
23:01:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> indeed
23:01:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> bastards dont like it here
23:01:59  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> flaningville is the place to be now :)
23:03:33  <perk11> :D
23:05:00  <perk11> BTW this is an interesting topic, why if you carry passengers only one way: out of town population doesn't decrease :)
23:05:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> because we are evil and we take cities like mines :(
23:05:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
23:06:03  <perk11> :)
23:07:04  <Barbaar> we secrectly clone the passengers so they can pay is again the next day (and get cloned again) Muhahaha
23:07:09  <Barbaar> us*
23:10:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> im off
23:10:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> cya
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23:11:11  <Wouterr> gn
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23:14:32  <Wouterr> night
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23:17:02  <perk111> !chatlogs
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23:17:32  <PeterT> @logs
23:17:32  <Webster> Logs: http://hyru.ath.cx:60080/~kenji/ottdcoop/
23:17:35  <PeterT> perk111: ^
23:17:44  <perk111> thx
23:18:26  <perk111> It would be challenging if passengers in trains will decrease city population and increase it when they arrive. Some balancing would be required. And also we could make a one extra large city (maybe some limit should be required not to allow do that) That's an interesting patch idea :)
23:23:45  <Mazur> Môgge.
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23:26:54  <Mazur> Yes, actual passenger movement.  With like 1% pop increase per year.  That's ¹²√1.01 pefr month.
23:27:00  <Mazur> -f
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