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(http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png) 06:21:12 <Ammler> !players 06:21:14 <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 167 is Yso, a spectator 06:21:14 <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 71 (Orange) is Mazur, in company 1 (Coopers #188) 06:21:38 <Ammler> !rcon move 71 255 06:21:38 <PublicServer> Ammler: *** Mazur has joined spectators 06:37:25 *** ^Spike^ has joined #openttdcoop 06:37:25 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ^Spike^ 07:06:29 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 07:06:29 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 07:10:10 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 07:14:10 <PublicServer> *** Yso has left the game (leaving) 07:33:37 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (connection lost) 07:36:03 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 07:40:27 <Yso> noobquestion: how long do the priorities got to be in the current game? or better, how do i calculate that myself? 07:40:42 <planetmaker> 2*TL + 2 for side lines 07:40:47 <planetmaker> is a good guestimate 07:40:54 <planetmaker> but it depends upon train speed actually 07:41:51 <Yso> is there an @command like @gap for that? 07:42:06 <V453000> yea, the fun is, you have to be clever in that matter :) normal sideline priorities are about that, 2TL ... but for example BBHs - there you usually have only track choosers ... therefore they dont have to be that long 07:42:10 <V453000> no 07:42:13 <V453000> just use brainzor :) 07:43:38 <planetmaker> @brain 07:43:51 <planetmaker> hm... that should return a message like "brain not found" :-P 07:44:16 <V453000> :) 07:44:21 <V453000> tell Kenji :) 07:44:31 <planetmaker> :-) 07:45:12 <Yso> ok, thanks for the quick answers, my msh will give me plenty opportunities to experiment with that 07:45:20 <planetmaker> :-) 07:45:34 <planetmaker> MSH might be an example where the "full" priority of 2*TL+2 is too long 07:45:51 <planetmaker> it could possibly go with a BBH - style prio 07:45:53 <Ammler> @alias add brain echo [09:43] <planetmaker> hm... that should return a message like "brain not found" 07:45:54 <V453000> pretty much 07:45:54 <Webster> Ammler: The operation succeeded. 07:46:04 <V453000> :D 07:46:05 <V453000> :D 07:46:05 <planetmaker> depending upon load of lines and alike 07:46:06 <V453000> :D 07:46:07 <V453000> :D 07:46:08 <planetmaker> @brain 07:46:08 <Webster> [09:43] <planetmaker> hm... that should return a message like brain not found 07:46:13 <planetmaker> :-D 07:46:18 <Yso> xD 07:47:11 <Yso> i've seen that Train_Man got banned last night, is that permanent? 07:47:48 <Ammler> why do you care? 07:48:02 <PublicServer> *** tneo joined the game 07:48:03 <Yso> just so that i know that i can mess with the stuff he built 07:48:29 <planetmaker> you can 07:48:36 <Ammler> yes, then it is 07:48:42 <planetmaker> and you can savely assume not to see him here again 07:49:29 <Yso> ok :) 07:50:48 <PublicServer> *** tneo has left the game (leaving) 08:06:35 *** mixrin has quit IRC 08:11:28 <ODM> !password 08:11:28 <PublicServer> ODM: looser 08:11:34 <ODM> aw man:( 08:11:35 <PublicServer> *** 0DM joined the game 08:13:16 <V453000> ODM alive \o/ 08:13:24 <ODM> meh just checking^^ 08:13:33 <ODM> the plan is mad 08:15:17 <PublicServer> <0DM> and the station in the middle is mad:p 08:15:17 <V453000> n00 08:15:21 <V453000> oh yes :) 08:15:36 <PublicServer> <0DM> never used this industry set, no idea what goes where:P 08:16:12 <V453000> when all drops are built we can set train orders so it is as hard as normal industries :) 08:16:15 <PublicServer> <0DM> whats the inside load ring, the road in the plan? 08:16:29 <V453000> LLL_RRR 08:16:31 <V453000> it is written there 08:16:47 <PublicServer> <0DM> i didnt ask for the size, but what it is:) 08:18:46 <PublicServer> <0DM> SL's go everywhere i guess? 08:29:39 <V453000> yea, anywhere we can fit them 08:30:04 <PublicServer> <0DM> woo 08:30:15 <PublicServer> <0DM> and each drop at an MSH needs a drop aswell as a pickup? 08:32:11 <PublicServer> <0DM> thisll be a weird game:P 08:35:25 <PublicServer> *** 0DM has left the game (leaving) 08:35:44 <ODM> ugh, so much to do for holiday:( 08:40:46 *** X-BT has joined #openttdcoop 08:42:55 <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game 08:46:07 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Good moaning. 08:49:01 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (connection lost) 09:00:15 <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game 09:06:19 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 09:06:53 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Morning, Spike. 09:06:58 <PublicServer> <Spike> ellow 09:08:08 <PublicServer> *** Spike has joined company #1 09:24:44 <^Spike^> Mazur building? 09:25:45 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Looking for something I might be capable of handling. 09:26:09 *** Lukeus_Maximus has joined #openttdcoop 09:26:39 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Problem is, I've not muhc experienve with HUBS, and all of that in flat terrain. 09:31:13 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000164DF: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000164DF.png 09:34:00 <Yso> !password 09:34:00 <PublicServer> Yso: grunts 09:34:13 <PublicServer> *** Yso joined the game 09:34:20 <Yso> hiho 09:34:21 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Morn, Ys. 09:35:35 <Yso> Mazur if you're looking for smthg to do, i'd suggest rebuilding the goodsdrop in the south 09:36:17 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ok, after this MSH attempt. 09:43:38 <PublicServer> *** Spike has joined spectators 09:43:40 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 09:45:47 *** LukeusMaximus has joined #openttdcoop 09:46:00 *** Vitus has joined #openttdcoop 09:46:08 <Vitus> !players 09:46:09 <PublicServer> Vitus: Client 178 (Orange) is Mazur, in company 1 (Coopers #188) 09:46:09 <PublicServer> Vitus: Client 181 (Orange) is Yso, in company 1 (Coopers #188) 09:46:16 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000184E1: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000184E1.png 09:46:21 <Vitus> Hey 09:46:29 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Feets! 09:46:55 *** Lukeus_Maximus is now known as Guest2494 09:46:56 *** LukeusMaximus is now known as Lukeus_Maximus 09:47:03 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ai buildsded a HUB. 09:47:06 <Lukeus_Maximus> !password 09:47:06 <PublicServer> Lukeus_Maximus: bleats 09:47:16 <Vitus> !password 09:47:16 <PublicServer> Vitus: bleats 09:47:26 <Vitus> Oh well 09:47:35 <Vitus> Mazur, do you have your own hub? :) 09:47:35 <PublicServer> *** Lukeus Maximus joined the game 09:47:45 <PublicServer> <Mazur> MSH 1-3 09:47:58 <PublicServer> *** Vitus joined the game 09:49:05 *** Davelister has quit IRC 09:49:39 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Damn, Gnemo started working on MSH 01 S :( 09:49:46 <PublicServer> <Vitus> I wanted to build that one. 09:50:54 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Might have abandonded it, look up North. 09:51:21 *** J_Darnley has quit IRC 09:51:36 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Yes, yes, I've seen that. But I don't feel like demolishing it when he might come and finish it 09:52:14 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Well, you can always claim TF issues gto do so. 09:54:09 <Lukeus_Maximus> I can rest safe in the knowledge that one day #openttdcoop will go down as "making train networks that are nearing 100% of theortical efficiency, even if navigating ridiculously contrived terrain is required to do so". 09:54:51 *** J_Darnley has joined #openttdcoop 09:54:59 <planetmaker> eh @ Lukeus_Maximus ? 09:55:11 <Lukeus_Maximus> well 09:55:26 <Lukeus_Maximus> I have a thing for nostalgia 09:55:35 <Lukeus_Maximus> must be my extreme age... 09:55:39 <Lukeus_Maximus> ... of 19 09:55:52 <Mazur> baby. 09:59:41 <planetmaker> kitten 10:00:01 <Vitus> Oh well 10:01:18 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00071C82: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00071C82.png 10:06:25 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Mazur, the prio over bridge looks strange 10:06:50 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes, I know, not sure how to chnge it. 10:06:51 <PublicServer> <Vitus> You need something like: 10:07:12 *** X-BT has quit IRC 10:07:28 <PublicServer> <Vitus> This should work :) 10:08:57 <PublicServer> *** Lukeus Maximus has left the game (leaving) 10:10:04 <V453000> !password 10:10:04 <PublicServer> V453000: aisled 10:10:15 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 10:10:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> lo 10:10:22 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey 10:10:38 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hi, V, van you suggest a solution at !sync? 10:10:56 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Good mornings, here's your beer. 10:11:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> piece of cake 10:11:33 <PublicServer> <Mazur> But then the join is only on one bridge. 10:11:38 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ah. 10:11:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> now just make prio over the bridges 10:12:29 <PublicServer> <Mazur> And Vitus, you destroyed my one TL waiting room. 10:12:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> biatch! 10:12:43 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Pfft 10:12:56 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Done 10:13:01 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Arse. 10:13:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 10:13:29 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Actually, thaat's what i thought. 10:13:30 <PublicServer> <Vitus> I feel violated 10:15:05 <PublicServer> <Mazur> It camer out a tad wide, but otherwise, not too shabby, no? 10:15:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> everything wrong 10:15:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> dont try ever again 10:15:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> :P nah its fine 10:15:45 <PublicServer> <Vitus> :D 10:15:46 <PublicServer> <Mazur> How veru intelligent of me. :-) 10:16:20 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000132F8: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000132F8.png 10:16:32 <PublicServer> <Vitus> I still think we could have just synced the last bridge :D 10:16:35 <VVG> hello 10:16:40 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey 10:16:51 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hi, VVG. 10:16:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi hi 10:17:08 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Noew all we need is Victor_of_Sweden. 10:17:15 <PublicServer> <Vitus> V party! 10:17:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> lol 10:17:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> bitches 10:17:50 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Where? 10:18:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> I used to be the only V beginning person :) 10:18:13 *** thgergo has joined #openttdcoop 10:18:20 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Change to X or Q. 10:18:22 <VVG> must have been lonely, eh 10:18:52 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop 10:19:00 <PublicServer> *** Vitus has changed his/her name to My_name_doesnt_start_wit 10:19:04 <PublicServer> <My_name_doesnt_start_wit> Bah :( 10:19:09 <PublicServer> *** My_name_doesnt_start_wit has changed his/her name to Itus 10:19:13 <PublicServer> <Itus> Happy now? 10:19:22 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Indeed, Quitus. 10:19:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> now how retarded does that look :D 10:19:49 <PublicServer> <Itus> Damn, I don't like it 10:19:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> V makes names good. ^_^ 10:19:53 <PublicServer> *** Itus has changed his/her name to Vitus 10:20:18 <PublicServer> <Vitus> I could also change my name according to V's naming 10:20:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> ooh I see the naming challenge is already quite long :D 10:20:28 <PublicServer> *** Vitus has changed his/her name to V173000 10:20:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> weak 10:20:41 <PublicServer> <V173000> But it makes sense! 10:20:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> weak 10:20:49 <PublicServer> <V173000> Damn you! 10:21:00 <PublicServer> *** V173000 has changed his/her name to Vitus 10:23:10 <Chris_Booth> people other than me messing around with names 10:23:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi there 10:23:38 <Mazur> You're imagining things, John Wilkes. 10:23:42 *** einKarl has joined #openttdcoop 10:24:18 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 10:24:21 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey 10:24:24 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hi 10:24:37 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> where are all the trains? 10:25:01 <PublicServer> <Mazur> In the depot an d the trainyard. 10:25:12 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Voting stage was for almost one week 10:25:15 <PublicServer> <Mazur> There's no complete ML yet. 10:25:46 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> wow and i thought i was going to see a new map after 2 weeks of not playing 10:26:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> hehe 10:26:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> not really 10:26:56 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> this is going to be over built 10:27:07 <PublicServer> <Vitus> What? 10:27:48 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> by the time you even put the first train on the ML most inustry will have died 10:27:59 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and every FIRS game ends up being over built 10:28:53 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (leaving) 10:31:23 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003E7A8: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003E7A8.png 10:31:28 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 10:35:45 *** heffer has joined #openttdcoop 10:36:36 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 10:39:56 *** heffer has quit IRC 10:46:25 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000000: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00000000.png 10:48:41 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (connection lost) 10:52:40 *** Guest2494 has quit IRC 10:52:46 <Lukeus_Maximus> !password 10:52:46 <PublicServer> Lukeus_Maximus: mering 10:53:06 <PublicServer> *** Lukeus Maximus joined the game 10:53:57 <Lukeus_Maximus> perhaps we should have a smaller strict time limit of 3 days for planning 10:54:09 <Lukeus_Maximus> and voting 10:54:57 <V453000> why 10:56:30 *** Mazur has quit IRC 11:01:27 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00071E78: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00071E78.png 11:01:37 <Lukeus_Maximus> so games don't "stagnate" 11:02:20 <PublicServer> <Vitus> But if people are not interested, what would it change? 11:02:41 <Lukeus_Maximus> I never said people weren't interested 11:03:10 <PublicServer> <Vitus> But it's all about people 11:04:10 <Lukeus_Maximus> well take no notice of me and Dr. House here 11:04:18 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 11:04:18 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 11:07:59 *** Mazur has joined #openttdcoop 11:16:10 <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game 11:16:29 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002DAB0: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002DAB0.png 11:17:16 <PublicServer> <Mazur> I added braking space to GOODS DROP south. 11:17:57 <PublicServer> <Vitus> OK 11:18:12 <PublicServer> <Vitus> I wouldn't use presignals, though (not sure it it's yours) 11:18:42 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Mine, yes. 11:18:51 <PublicServer> *** Sepp joined the game 11:19:01 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Unless you use the presignal bypass as in Food drop 11:20:57 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Should be OK now 11:21:23 <PublicServer> <Vitus> At least for the south one :P 11:22:31 *** Progman has quit IRC 11:22:37 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Philosophical differences. 11:23:14 <PublicServer> <Mazur> I signalled like I did, because I prefer trains witing on the ML to halfway into hgte station blocking platforms. 11:23:33 <PublicServer> *** Sepp has left the game (leaving) 11:24:05 <PublicServer> <Vitus> If trains have to wait, you can just expand the station 11:24:42 <PublicServer> <Vitus> And because it's drop for only one cargotype, the trains will have same unloading times and thus won't interfere with eachother 11:26:59 <PublicServer> <Mazur> What are those roads for? 11:27:14 <PublicServer> <Vitus> PF penalties 11:27:25 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Just to be sure 11:27:40 <V453000> they are quite required ;) 11:28:03 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Really? I haven't had problems with that so far 11:29:42 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Nor I with properly presignalled stations. 11:31:31 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000000: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00000000.png 11:31:59 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Care to elaborate, V.? :) 11:32:44 <V453000> layter 11:33:09 *** heffer has joined #openttdcoop 11:33:28 <PublicServer> <Vitus> With the typical diamond layout, each platform should have +140 path cost over the previous one (just from the two diagonal tiles) 11:34:15 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Damn, I forgot the PF debug command again 11:37:09 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 11:46:33 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00055A5B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00055A5B.png 11:49:25 <PublicServer> *** Vitus has left the game (leaving) 11:53:01 * theholyduck slept for like, half of eternity 11:53:24 <theholyduck> !password 11:53:24 <PublicServer> theholyduck: annuls 11:53:41 <PublicServer> *** theholyduck joined the game 11:55:58 <PublicServer> <theholyduck> v, i like your BEFORE YOU CHANGE ANYTHING signs 11:56:54 <V453000> you know how important they are :) 11:57:21 <theholyduck> well yeah 11:58:01 <Vitus> I confess, I changed one signal, because it was facing wrong direction without letting you know :( 12:00:37 <V453000> you DIE 12:01:07 <V453000> but later 12:01:17 <V453000> now I need to focus on killing that oil well 12:01:35 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000DA32: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000DA32.png 12:01:48 <Vitus> Well, the signal was next to the oil wells :D 12:02:05 <V453000> :) 12:02:25 <Vitus> How do you want to kill it, eh? :) 12:03:09 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 12:03:19 <Vitus> Load/save + magic buldozer magic or by some normal means? :) 12:04:41 <V453000> first I will wait 12:04:51 <V453000> if it too resistant to age, DEMOLISH 12:08:05 *** pugi has quit IRC 12:11:49 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Why? What's that oil well ever done to you? 12:13:21 <V453000> born at a wrong place 12:14:10 * theholyduck has to go again 12:14:15 <theholyduck> ;( 12:14:20 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Nr. 1 or Nr 12:14:26 <PublicServer> <Mazur> 2? 12:14:34 <theholyduck> only 1 connection left to do on my mountain msh 12:14:39 <PublicServer> *** theholyduck has left the game (connection lost) 12:15:09 <Yso> smo please take a look at msh 03a and tell me if it's ok for now or point out where i need to make improvements 12:16:04 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 12:16:38 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000A226: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000A226.png 12:16:45 <PublicServer> <Mazur> DOes it have a sign? 12:17:06 <Yso> yes it does 12:17:56 <Yso> but it's the one in the far southeast corner 12:18:01 <PublicServer> <Mazur> But not a space to start with. Now it has. 12:18:56 <Yso> ah! ok, well first improvement done :) 12:19:22 <PublicServer> <Mazur> No prio on the joins? 12:19:42 <Yso> all joins should have prios imho 12:19:56 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Check west side story. 12:20:29 <Yso> at "here?" 12:24:11 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Anyway,, that leaves the L2 one. 12:24:53 <PublicServer> <Mazur> My mistake. 12:25:12 <Yso> i forgot 2 signals there :) 12:25:34 <PublicServer> *** Lukeus Maximus has left the game (connection lost) 12:27:31 *** heffer has quit IRC 12:27:45 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Seems to be ok, though a bit on the large side. 12:28:23 <Yso> the lakes didn't make it easy 12:28:37 <PublicServer> <Mazur> lakes 12:28:53 <PublicServer> <Mazur> And curves. 12:29:01 <Yso> and hills 12:29:30 <PublicServer> <Mazur> What hills? 12:29:35 <PublicServer> <Mazur> You've no hills here. 12:30:06 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Compare holyducks hub, that is hilly. 12:30:19 <Yso> no, he's got a mountain 12:30:45 <Yso> come to swizerland, learn the difference between hills and mountains :) 12:31:13 <PublicServer> <Mazur> I'm Dutch, I know the difference. 12:31:39 <hylje> dutchland is mountainous 12:31:40 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000000: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00000000.png 12:31:56 <hylje> there's a hill 300 meters over sealevel 12:32:12 <PublicServer> <Mazur> We had to build windmills to grind them down enoug to be livable. 12:32:20 <Yso> xD 12:32:21 <hylje> in the netherlands it's effectively a few kilometers high, adjusting for the sea level 12:35:46 *** devilsadvocate has quit IRC 12:39:53 <V453000> 300? 12:40:00 <V453000> thought it is lower 12:40:11 <V453000> like 120 :-D 12:44:29 <Mazur> The Vaalserberg ("Mount Vaals") is a hill 322.7 metres (1,059 ft) in height, the highest point in the Netherlands. 12:46:26 <PublicServer> *** tneo joined the game 12:46:42 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00072FBA: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00072FBA.png 12:46:42 <PublicServer> <tneo> hello 12:46:50 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hi, tneo. 12:48:26 *** Barbaar has joined #openttdcoop 12:53:44 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (leaving) 12:54:02 <PublicServer> *** tneo has left the game (connection lost) 12:54:55 <PublicServer> *** tneo joined the game 12:58:26 *** planetmaker is now known as planeftmakefr 13:00:19 *** planeftmakefr is now known as planetmaker 13:01:44 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00049279: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00049279.png 13:06:05 <PublicServer> *** tneo has left the game (connection lost) 13:10:00 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 13:10:04 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Fuco 13:10:56 *** devilsadvocate has joined #openttdcoop 13:15:26 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop 13:16:46 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003FB07: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003FB07.png 13:31:48 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000000: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00000000.png 13:34:16 *** VVG has quit IRC 13:34:26 *** VVG has joined #openttdcoop 13:49:41 <Lukeus_Maximus> !password 13:49:41 <PublicServer> Lukeus_Maximus: inlays 13:49:53 <PublicServer> *** Lukeus Maximus joined the game 14:01:50 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0006E9CD: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0006E9CD.png 14:16:52 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002D6B0: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002D6B0.png 14:22:16 <dihedral> o/ 14:22:29 <Yso> \o 14:22:44 <V453000> o_ 14:23:02 <Barbaar> _o 14:23:18 <V453000> y m c a 14:23:34 <Barbaar> damn, it is so hot at work here :( 14:23:43 <dihedral> /o\ 14:24:21 <dihedral> º 14:24:36 <dihedral> þ 14:31:13 <V453000> seems like dihedral already overheated :D 14:31:54 <Lukeus_Maximus> there should be some function of the public server that tallies the total construction cost 14:31:55 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002DEA9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002DEA9.png 14:32:09 <V453000> and how would it expect the cost :) 14:32:14 <Lukeus_Maximus> and then puts it with the entry in the archive 14:32:16 <V453000> oh that 14:32:23 <V453000> ODM has some logs :) 14:32:29 <VVG> good evening 14:32:31 <VVG> !password 14:32:31 <PublicServer> VVG: shears 14:32:38 <V453000> afternoon :) 14:32:44 <PublicServer> *** VVG joined the game 14:32:55 <Lukeus_Maximus> g0ntlm0n, there are hubs to build 14:42:57 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 14:46:57 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0005F992: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0005F992.png 14:47:53 *** Mitcian has joined #openttdcoop 14:48:28 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 14:51:36 *** mixrin has quit IRC 14:54:19 <VVG> @gap 5 14:54:19 <Webster> VVG: For Trainlength of 5: <= 11 needs 2, 12 - 18 needs 3, 19 - 25 needs 4. 14:57:38 <VVG> How big Steelmill pickup station should be? 14:59:05 *** Mucht has quit IRC 15:00:58 <V453000> as breweryt 15:01:00 <V453000> -t 15:01:20 <V453000> depends really 15:01:31 <V453000> if you make overflow, you dont need many platform for example 15:01:59 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002EC9F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002EC9F.png 15:02:23 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop 15:02:26 <VVG> i lack space, never built stations on mountains, can't come up with anything 15:03:46 <Mazur> Coming. 15:04:16 <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game 15:05:21 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Where, VVG? 15:05:30 <PublicServer> <VVG> Mt. Fate, around it 15:07:24 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Isn't Tippsala XYZ meant to be it? 15:07:38 <PublicServer> <VVG> that's a drop 15:07:59 <PublicServer> <Mazur> k 15:09:12 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Shouoldn;t you finish MSH 4-1 first? At !here, e.g.? 15:09:44 <PublicServer> <VVG> that's not really a problem 15:10:14 <PublicServer> <Mazur> No, but it's not cpnnected yet, either. 15:10:15 <PublicServer> <VVG> i need to setup a station, so that i'd know where to put exits 15:10:42 <PublicServer> <VVG> no need yet anyway ) 15:10:53 <PublicServer> <Mazur> And where do hte trains come from and go to? MSH 4-1? 15:11:03 <PublicServer> <VVG> yep 15:11:20 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Gods, I sweating like 2 otters. 15:11:43 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Just did my groceries while it's 30 °C. 15:12:16 <PublicServer> <Yso> the market wasn't airconditioned? 15:12:36 <PublicServer> <Mazur> The market, yes. 15:13:13 <PublicServer> <Mazur> I was whinking, NS station with an ovrflow around, train in and out of the mountains., 15:13:28 <PublicServer> <VVG> ns? 15:13:30 <PublicServer> <Mazur> North-South. 15:13:51 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 15:14:00 <PublicServer> <Mazur> thatway no TF would have been necessary. 15:14:25 <PublicServer> <VVG> i 'v done exits only on one side :( 15:14:56 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes, but you made a flat area for the whole station. 15:15:09 <PublicServer> <VVG> it was mostry there to begin with 15:17:01 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002EE96: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002EE96.png 15:17:03 <PublicServer> <Mazur> nevertheless, my idea would look silly with this area, now. 15:17:09 <PublicServer> <Mazur> No sport left in building it. 15:21:46 *** X-BT has joined #openttdcoop 15:22:43 *** theholyduck has quit IRC 15:23:00 *** Polygon has joined #openttdcoop 15:23:19 *** theholyduck has joined #openttdcoop 15:32:03 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000607A3: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000607A3.png 15:33:54 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 15:36:36 <VVG> I wonder if i need to make sure Steelmill pickup have exits into both north and south directions. Machine shop and metal forgery both are north from mill 15:37:02 <VVG> err, i meant entrances 15:37:41 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Not sure. 15:39:48 *** X-BT has quit IRC 15:42:11 *** perk111 has joined #openttdcoop 15:43:16 *** X-BT has joined #openttdcoop 15:45:38 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 15:45:55 *** perk11 has quit IRC 15:47:05 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000000: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00000000.png 15:50:23 <PublicServer> *** VVG has left the game (leaving) 15:55:16 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 16:01:09 <welterde> !password 16:01:09 <PublicServer> welterde: binder 16:01:33 <PublicServer> *** welterde joined the game 16:02:08 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000759B7: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000759B7.png 16:03:40 <PublicServer> *** Yso has left the game (leaving) 16:04:36 <PublicServer> *** welterde has left the game (leaving) 16:16:50 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 16:17:10 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000000: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00000000.png 16:25:11 *** X-BT has quit IRC 16:27:14 *** Davelister has joined #openttdcoop 16:27:47 *** X-BT has joined #openttdcoop 16:32:35 *** valhallasw has joined #openttdcoop 16:45:29 *** Polygon has quit IRC 16:47:12 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002D2A2: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002D2A2.png 16:50:14 *** perk111 has quit IRC 17:01:11 <Vitus> !password 17:01:11 <PublicServer> Vitus: wilder 17:01:42 <PublicServer> *** Vitus joined the game 17:01:58 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hiya, Feats. 17:02:14 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00063ADB: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00063ADB.png 17:02:19 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey 17:04:56 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Lukeus Maximus: Are you here? 17:05:53 <Lukeus_Maximus> yes 17:05:55 <Lukeus_Maximus> I am 17:06:00 <Lukeus_Maximus> well I'm not in game 17:06:03 <Lukeus_Maximus> but I will be 17:06:10 <Lukeus_Maximus> !password 17:06:10 <PublicServer> Lukeus_Maximus: tanner 17:06:38 <Lukeus_Maximus> I'm already in actually 17:06:42 <Lukeus_Maximus> just minimised it 17:06:53 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Your hub (BBH 08) has few major flaws 17:07:02 <Lukeus_Maximus> most likely 17:07:12 <Lukeus_Maximus> I don't think any of them are CL though 17:07:30 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Missing balancer isn't that bad, can be fixed.. but you don't use double bridges 17:07:53 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Those bridges are mine, Vitus. 17:08:02 <PublicServer> <Mazur> The ones acr4oss the water. 17:08:19 <PublicServer> <Vitus> These are OK 17:08:40 <PublicServer> <Vitus> But if you take a look at the hub, you'll see that no bridge or tunnel is doubled 17:08:41 <PublicServer> <Vitus> And what WILL jam 17:08:44 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 17:08:59 <Lukeus_Maximus> I will begin some doubling up 17:09:12 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Alright :) 17:11:23 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Lukeus: With bridges, the first signal gap has to be the largest until the rejoin. 17:11:24 <Lukeus_Maximus> right 17:11:38 <Lukeus_Maximus> I have to go to dinner now 17:11:46 <Lukeus_Maximus> keep working on it 17:11:55 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Else a gfreen signal will show while that side if still occupied. 17:12:11 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Enjoy. 17:12:30 *** einKarl has quit IRC 17:13:12 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hmm, I'll build BBH02 17:13:22 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Kewl. 17:13:40 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Rebuild, by the look of it. 17:13:53 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Noes, they gave up :D 17:13:58 <PublicServer> <Vitus> The signs are gone 17:14:39 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Holyduck was giving a lecture on hub buidloing there, I think, but halfway his students left for dinnerr. 17:15:32 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Like: First we start with the splits, to get a sense of size. 17:16:04 <PublicServer> <Vitus> It was signed /theholyduck + rest before 17:16:29 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Now it's gone, only with sign "anyone?", which is now gone too :) 17:16:40 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yep. 17:17:05 *** X-BT has quit IRC 17:17:16 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00034412: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00034412.png 17:17:51 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Far out! 17:18:19 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Why? I don't want the ML to go through mountains when I can avoid them :D 17:18:32 <PublicServer> <Spike> Lukeus Maximus: 17:18:35 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Juswt joking, it has two meanings. 17:18:36 <PublicServer> <Spike> look @ MSH02a 17:19:38 <PublicServer> *** Spike has joined company #1 17:19:52 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hi, Spike. 17:20:11 <theholyduck> Vitus, well i grew bored of it and the students were sort of gone 17:20:15 <theholyduck> i'll do it again if they come back 17:20:18 <theholyduck> i did the anyone? sign 17:20:42 *** X-BT has joined #openttdcoop 17:20:47 <PublicServer> <Vitus> OK, don't you mind me rebuilding it? 17:21:25 <PublicServer> <Mazur> If he did, he would not have put up "Anyone?" 17:21:34 <PublicServer> <Vitus> I just want to be sure :) 17:21:35 <PublicServer> <Spike> merging 2 lines... to 1 single bridge... and then continue it to the ML... 17:24:30 <theholyduck> slol spike 17:24:32 <theholyduck> *lol 17:24:36 <theholyduck> Vitus, and no i don't mind 17:24:50 <PublicServer> <Vitus> OK :) 17:24:56 <^Spike^> theholyduck i'm not kidding i'm seeing it right now :) 17:25:04 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Just as well, there's not a single track left of what you did. 17:25:18 <^Spike^> seems the station is more important then the flow on the ML :) 17:26:40 *** perk111 has joined #openttdcoop 17:31:45 <Lukeus_Maximus> ok, I'm back 17:31:59 <^Spike^> Lukeus_Maximus hf reworking MSH02a :) 17:32:08 <PublicServer> <Vitus> :D 17:32:11 <Lukeus_Maximus> hf? 17:32:16 <^Spike^> have fun :) 17:32:16 <Lukeus_Maximus> what's that one mean. 17:32:18 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00034A1E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00034A1E.png 17:32:20 <Lukeus_Maximus> ok 17:32:44 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Damn :/ 17:33:47 <PublicServer> <Spike> Lukeus Maximus: just look at the hub itself.. 17:33:57 <PublicServer> <Spike> the tracks to the station are more important then the ML? :) 17:34:32 <PublicServer> <Spike> and also CL at some points 17:34:48 <PublicServer> <Spike> alot of points actually 17:37:28 <PublicServer> <Spike> i would rebuild it while you can tbh 17:37:36 <PublicServer> <Spike> but that is just my opinion you can try to fix :) 17:38:10 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 17:38:14 <Yso> !password 17:38:14 <PublicServer> Yso: ration 17:38:21 <PublicServer> *** Yso joined the game 17:39:04 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Who's helping me at BBH02? :) 17:39:09 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Me, of course. 17:39:11 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop 17:39:16 <PublicServer> <Vitus> I thought so 17:39:21 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Who else is as asinine.. 17:39:33 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Watch the signal gaps, first bridges are little bit shorther than the following 17:40:59 *** perk111 has quit IRC 17:41:11 <PublicServer> <Mazur> That's the difference between building yourself and helping someone, if you do it yourself, you have all that in mind. 17:42:24 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 17:42:39 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Mazur, now that you helped me, I'll leave the decision on you: Do you want the last balancer to be every track to every (as in MSH01s) or reduced one as in BBH03? :) 17:42:41 <PublicServer> <Mazur> And now the northbound fletching mand bowing. 17:42:59 *** gnemo has joined #openttdcoop 17:43:02 <Lukeus_Maximus> the what??? 17:43:09 <PublicServer> <Mazur> I'd do fully, always. 17:43:20 <PublicServer> <Vitus> OK 17:43:20 <PublicServer> <Mazur> But that's my style, as it were. 17:43:41 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Like you never know what cockup will send trains where. 17:44:09 <PublicServer> *** Gnemo joined the game 17:44:12 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey 17:44:16 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hi, Gnem. 17:44:25 <PublicServer> <Mazur> +o 17:44:58 <PublicServer> <Gnemo> hey 17:46:17 <PublicServer> <Gnemo> hey, thanks for finishing up MSH 01 S, Lukeus Maximus 17:47:20 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00006DD8: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00006DD8.png 17:49:29 <Lukeus_Maximus> ok 17:49:44 <Lukeus_Maximus> I've completely redone MSH 02 a 17:49:48 <Lukeus_Maximus> happy 17:49:50 <Lukeus_Maximus> ? 17:50:00 <PublicServer> <Vitus> I think it's done :) 17:50:08 <PublicServer> <Vitus> I mean BBH02 :) 17:51:15 <PublicServer> <Mazur> No problem. 17:51:33 <Lukeus_Maximus> woo! 17:51:37 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Was very educational to watch the balancers. 17:52:23 <Razaekel> if you wanted to maximize capacity, what TL would you use? 17:52:25 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Luke: I think there is one thing left, at least: That single long bridge over the llinemix. 17:52:40 <PublicServer> <Mazur> About 5. 17:53:17 <Razaekel> hmm 17:53:21 <Razaekel> not 3? 17:53:27 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Well, the longer TL you use, the smaller is gap between trains (in %) 17:53:31 <Lukeus_Maximus> that balancer, yes 17:53:56 <Razaekel> true, but the longer the train, the slower the acceration 17:54:05 <Razaekel> unless theyre mostly engine 17:54:32 <PublicServer> <Mazur> 5 differs not thagt much from 3, and gives a better track fill. 17:54:52 <Razaekel> hmm 17:54:57 <Razaekel> second question: 17:55:31 <Razaekel> what style of network would you use if you wanted to maximize the production of every industry? 17:56:27 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Well, at least considering primaries, all you have to do is to ensure there's train waiting in station 17:56:41 <Razaekel> yea 17:56:47 <PublicServer> <Vitus> High rating = better chance for industry to increase production 17:56:53 <Razaekel> afk, fire alarm 17:58:31 *** X-BT has quit IRC 17:59:16 *** theholyduck has quit IRC 18:02:23 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00064ADB: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00064ADB.png 18:05:15 *** learningottd has joined #openttdcoop 18:05:20 <learningottd> !password 18:05:20 <PublicServer> learningottd: beagle 18:05:40 <PublicServer> *** learningottd joined the game 18:06:22 <VVG> !players 18:06:24 <PublicServer> VVG: Client 201 (Orange) is Lukeus Maximus, in company 1 (Coopers #188) 18:06:24 <PublicServer> VVG: Client 210 (Orange) is Vitus, in company 1 (Coopers #188) 18:06:24 <PublicServer> VVG: Client 213 (Orange) is Yso, in company 1 (Coopers #188) 18:06:24 <PublicServer> VVG: Client 204 (Orange) is Mazur, in company 1 (Coopers #188) 18:06:24 <PublicServer> VVG: Client 215 (Orange) is Gnemo, in company 1 (Coopers #188) 18:06:25 <PublicServer> VVG: Client 217 (Orange) is learningottd, in company 1 (Coopers #188) 18:07:00 <VVG> How does a server choose a client number? 18:07:15 <hylje> from a bucket 18:07:22 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Dunno, maybe it counts on its fingers? 18:07:46 *** perk11 has quit IRC 18:08:50 *** fmauneko has joined #openttdcoop 18:08:56 <VVG> Razaekel: mind that different industry sets require different things for productin growth 18:08:58 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 18:09:05 <fmauneko> !password 18:09:05 <PublicServer> fmauneko: beagle 18:09:24 <PublicServer> *** fmauNeko joined the game 18:09:42 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Hai 18:09:51 <VVG> salut 18:10:12 <PublicServer> <Mazur> hallo, Frauneko. 18:10:13 <VVG> !password 18:10:13 <PublicServer> VVG: beagle 18:10:16 <Razaekel> no worries, fire drill 18:10:47 <PublicServer> *** VVG joined the game 18:13:32 <Razaekel> not like anybody actually gave a damn anyway 18:13:52 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Would we know? 18:14:27 <Razaekel> well, if there was really a fire, the connection would probably drop as the computer gets burned to a crisp 18:15:10 <PublicServer> <Mazur> So, "Connection lost." I think I've seen that before. 18:16:11 <Razaekel> yea, but were any of them preceded by 'afk, fire alarm'? 18:16:36 <Mazur> Was this one? 18:16:40 <Razaekel> yes 18:16:48 <PublicServer> <Mazur> If you say so. 18:16:52 <Razaekel> [09/07/10 13:56:44] > afk, fire alarm 18:17:10 <Razaekel> it is now [09/07/10 14:16:40] <PublicServer> <Mazur> If you say so. 18:17:23 <Razaekel> besides, what am i saying? 18:17:25 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002E298: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002E298.png 18:17:25 <Razaekel> this is the internet 18:17:29 <Razaekel> NOBODY gives a damn 18:17:48 <PublicServer> <learningottd> if you died someone would probably care 18:17:51 <PublicServer> <Mazur> No, we give a damn, we just don't show it. 18:18:50 *** Lelle has joined #openttdcoop 18:22:53 *** MattD has joined #openttdcoop 18:23:10 <MattD> got into IRC..... huray for me? 18:23:23 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hooray! 18:23:31 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hooray! 18:26:10 <MattD> ok so now i gotta remeber, how do i find the password to connect to the coop server....... omg i forgot how to do al of this! =.= 18:26:18 <fmauneko> !password 18:26:18 <PublicServer> fmauneko: captor 18:26:23 <MattD> !password 18:26:23 <PublicServer> MattD: captor 18:26:26 <fmauneko> :) 18:26:29 <planetmaker> @quickstart 18:26:32 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 18:26:34 <MattD> thanks 18:26:36 <planetmaker> ^^ read that, MattD 18:26:36 <PublicServer> *** Matt joined the game 18:26:49 <PublicServer> *** learningottd has left the game (leaving) 18:27:05 <MattD> i no how to play i just forgot the IRC stuff :D 18:27:12 *** learningottd has quit IRC 18:27:23 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 18:27:28 <MattD> ok im in..... now to watch 18:27:39 <MattD> becuase i can build but nothing like this.... 18:28:06 <PublicServer> <VVG> is it ok to not follow cl on overlow line? 18:28:22 <Razaekel> no 18:28:35 <PublicServer> <Vitus> VVG: Where? 18:28:37 <PublicServer> *** Spike has joined company #1 18:28:41 <PublicServer> <VVG> trippsala 18:28:54 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> afk 18:29:02 <PublicServer> *** Spike has joined spectators 18:29:04 <PublicServer> <Vitus> It's OK for overflow, yes 18:29:04 *** MattD has quit IRC 18:29:14 <Razaekel> meh 18:29:19 <PublicServer> <Matt> ok im trying to figure all of this out and all i can say is this 18:29:21 <PublicServer> <Matt> WHAT?! 18:29:32 <PublicServer> <Vitus> But you have to make sure trains won't get slowed down on merge :) 18:29:33 <Razaekel> what do you mean what? 18:29:41 <^Spike^> Matt we prefer you stay in IRC aswell 18:29:46 <PublicServer> <Matt> its just.... confusing 18:29:49 <^Spike^> not join get pass get out 18:29:49 <PublicServer> <Matt> um. ok 18:29:59 *** MattD has joined #openttdcoop 18:30:01 <PublicServer> <VVG> a prio should suffice, right? 18:30:10 <^Spike^> it communicates alot better :) 18:30:11 <PublicServer> <Matt> any reason for that though spike? 18:30:19 <PublicServer> <Matt> besides that.... 18:30:31 <planetmaker> you know... _coop_ requires communication 18:30:46 <PublicServer> <Matt> but...... ugh. i aint gonna say anything 18:30:46 <planetmaker> it's the foundation of how we play 18:30:48 <^Spike^> next to that seeing a name in-game and not on chat makes us wonder how he/she got pass 18:31:00 <PublicServer> <Matt> ok THAT makes sense. 18:31:05 <planetmaker> which then might result in a kick ;-) 18:31:12 <PublicServer> <Matt> >.> 18:31:12 <PublicServer> <Vitus> VVG, do something like this: 18:31:13 <^Spike^> and could lead to a ban hammer action 18:31:18 <^Spike^> or what PM said :) 18:31:25 <^Spike^> i'm more rigorious in my actions ;) 18:31:26 <planetmaker> I tried to be friendly :-P 18:31:29 <PublicServer> <Matt> kick seems preferable.... 18:31:30 <PublicServer> <VVG> WHOA! 18:31:37 <PublicServer> <VVG> superb! 18:32:05 <PublicServer> <Matt> hmm.... looking at this i getit... 18:32:09 <PublicServer> <Matt> well some of it D 18:32:10 <PublicServer> <Matt> *:D 18:32:19 <PublicServer> <VVG> why 2way combo? 18:32:27 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002D296: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002D296.png 18:32:36 <MattD> should i just change my IGN to correspond to my IRC name? 18:32:52 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Because you won't get trains to the overflow line otherwise :) 18:32:54 <^Spike^> that's what you prefer... we can understand matt in-game equals MattD :) 18:33:18 <PublicServer> <VVG> oh, the overflow start is at wrong place 18:33:29 <PublicServer> *** Matt has changed his/her name to MattD 18:33:33 <PublicServer> <VVG> that's how it should have been 18:33:37 <PublicServer> <Vitus> OK 18:33:46 <PublicServer> <VVG> before the entry sig :) 18:33:49 <MattD> ok i get this ALL but priorities..... 18:34:08 <MattD> everything else looks..... pretty unlikelly to jamup 18:34:11 <^Spike^> @quickstart 18:34:13 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 18:34:21 <^Spike^> look for priorities on the wiki :) 18:34:24 <^Spike^> @wiki 18:34:26 <Webster> Search - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Special:Search?go=Go&search= 18:34:31 <PublicServer> <Vitus> How do you plan to inject the trains back to line? 18:35:20 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Timer or some conditional injection? 18:35:32 <MattD> yea, i tried priorites before by looking at it but i just cant logically understand what it is doing except the reverse presignal jamming the block signal 18:35:38 <PublicServer> <VVG> is there a need? 18:35:45 <MattD> unless that IS the point of the priority 18:35:49 <PublicServer> <VVG> i can only make a prio, nothing more 18:36:02 <PublicServer> <VVG> if it's still full train will just go back 18:36:13 <^Spike^> well would you prefer to let 5 full trains wait for 1 empty train or... let 1 empty trains wait for 5 trains 18:36:30 <MattD> id prefer the 2nd 18:36:31 <PublicServer> <Vitus> It would work too 18:36:54 <^Spike^> that's what a priority does :) 18:37:01 <^Spike^> prioritizes 1 track over the other 18:37:08 <MattD> i know but i mean 18:37:18 <MattD> how does it work... like what is it really doing?? 18:37:26 <MattD> i know im saying it wrong but.... 18:37:43 <Razaekel> you know how presigs work, right? 18:37:47 <MattD> unless i know how it functions i never get it. 18:37:55 <MattD> yes, i no how presig works 18:37:57 <PublicServer> <VVG> it stops trains from joining right before a train on a mainline, they will wait for a free spot 18:38:21 <Razaekel> if there's a train inside the presig block, then the entry signal is red, and doesnt allow a train to join the ml 18:38:31 <Razaekel> if there is no train in the block, then the sideline train can join 18:38:38 <MattD> ok 18:38:43 <MattD> that makes sense. 18:39:38 <MattD> and im taking it the further back you make the reverse presignals for the priority the bigger the window for the ml and would hold a block on the sideline longer 18:39:39 <Razaekel> tehnically, it'd work without the combo signals 18:39:59 <Razaekel> they're there to prevent trains running into situations where they detect themselves in the signal block 18:40:10 <MattD> hmmm 18:40:11 <Lukeus_Maximus> where is all this occuring at? 18:40:13 <Razaekel> and passes information to the entry signal 18:40:20 <Razaekel> yea 18:40:28 <Razaekel> the longer the block, the larger the gap required 18:40:28 <MattD> ok, ill try priority later on 18:40:39 <MattD> it seems like it is important to know in openttdcoop 18:40:58 <Vitus> Prios are literally everywhere :D 18:40:58 <Razaekel> we use them quite extensively 18:41:09 <Razaekel> pretty much required for anything that joins the ml 18:41:33 <MattD> well i better start practicing it then :D 18:42:04 <MattD> until i aint joining any coop company and cuasing havoc =) 18:42:19 <MattD> *until then 18:42:28 <Vitus> Why not? You can start with simple things 18:42:33 <Vitus> Like connecting stations to SL 18:42:48 <Vitus> (currently not available :D ) 18:42:52 <PublicServer> <MattD> seems like nothing to do atm 18:42:54 <PublicServer> <MattD> ... ya 18:42:57 <PublicServer> <MattD> then ill play later then 18:44:21 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 18:45:21 *** perk11 has quit IRC 18:47:29 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0005F79A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0005F79A.png 18:50:55 <MattD> afk. 18:51:02 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Back :) 18:53:08 <PublicServer> *** fmauNeko has left the game (connection lost) 18:53:37 *** fmauneko has quit IRC 18:56:41 <V453000> !password for insanity! 18:56:41 <PublicServer> V453000: sorely 18:57:02 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 18:57:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> heya inzaniators 18:57:42 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hiya ,Sanitizationer. 18:57:45 <PublicServer> <VVG> Hi 18:58:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> any news ? 18:58:12 <PublicServer> <VVG> V, will you please cheack trippsala station, is it enough for your plan? 18:58:16 <MattD> nothing besides im back :D 18:58:26 <PublicServer> <Mazur> I'm building MSH 4-3 with LL_RR station side, is that overkill? 18:58:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> should be VVG :) 18:59:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> even an overflow *_* 19:02:31 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00063ECA: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00063ECA.png 19:03:00 <PublicServer> *** Vitus has left the game (connection lost) 19:06:10 *** Ramsus08191 has joined #openttdcoop 19:06:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> Mazur: what says plan 19:06:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> L_R 19:06:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> damn 19:07:02 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Damn what? 19:07:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> MSH 4_3 19:07:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> plan says L_R 19:07:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> I have no clue why you make it LL_RR 19:07:26 <PublicServer> <Mazur> So? It will be. 19:07:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok 19:07:35 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Practice. 19:08:40 <Ramsus08191> !password 19:08:40 <PublicServer> Ramsus08191: brisks 19:09:00 <PublicServer> *** Ramsus08191 joined the game 19:09:07 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> Hi all 19:09:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi hi 19:09:15 <PublicServer> *** Ramsus08191 has joined company #1 19:09:30 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 19:10:21 <V453000> !password 19:10:21 <PublicServer> V453000: brisks 19:10:39 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 19:12:16 <PublicServer> *** Vitus joined the game 19:12:57 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Wb, Vitus 19:13:04 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Thanks :) 19:13:13 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> Hi 19:13:19 <PublicServer> <MattD> hello 19:14:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> Lukeus Maximus: I spammed a few signs around MSH 02a 19:17:33 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000000: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00000000.png 19:22:16 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 19:24:35 <PublicServer> *** Gnemo has left the game (leaving) 19:31:12 <planetmaker> !rcon set max_trains 19:31:12 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Current value for 'max_trains' is: '500' (min: 0, max: 5000) 19:32:36 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000654D7: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000654D7.png 19:36:38 <PublicServer> *** Vitus has left the game (leaving) 19:36:46 <Mazur> Oh, pity 19:37:00 <Mazur> I could uswe your help doing the prios at MSH 4-3. 19:38:09 <PublicServer> <VVG> you lack space for prios 19:39:07 <Vitus> Sorry, I'll be AFK for some time 19:40:20 <PublicServer> <VVG> just move joiners a bit farther 19:40:35 <PublicServer> <Mazur> yep. 19:46:20 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 19:47:02 <PublicServer> <Mazur> His, Pike. 19:47:11 *** Vitus has quit IRC 19:47:38 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0004A821: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0004A821.png 19:48:37 <V453000> it is no Pike 19:48:44 <V453000> it is S pike ... like an ass pike :P 19:49:27 <V453000> you are welcome ^Spike^ btw :D 19:49:31 <PublicServer> <Mazur> You make your joke, I make mine. 19:49:50 *** V453000 was kicked by ^Spike^ (NP ;)) 19:50:04 <^Spike^> i hate ppl not having auto-rejoin :) 19:50:32 *** V453000 has joined #openttdcoop 19:50:32 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o V453000 19:50:49 <PublicServer> *** Spike has joined company #1 19:50:58 <V453000> :) 19:51:02 <^Spike^> !tunnels 5 18 19:51:02 <PublicServer> ^Spike^: You need 3 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 5 and gap 18. 19:52:05 <V453000> !password 19:52:05 <PublicServer> V453000: madman 19:52:12 <V453000> 8D 19:52:14 <V453000> nice pw 19:52:44 *** devilsadvocate has quit IRC 19:52:49 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 19:56:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> Mazur: MSH 1-3 19:56:38 <PublicServer> <Mazur> k 19:59:25 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> WTH there is a forniture factory inside my hub D: 20:00:14 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Because on the eigth day, Eve demanded furniture from God. 20:00:23 <planetmaker> :-D 20:00:52 <planetmaker> Ramsus08191: sure enough they cannot complain about lack of infrastructure connectivity :-) 20:00:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> but god was too beer-ed at that moment already so it got a bit wrongly-positioned 20:00:58 <planetmaker> Good for import / export business 20:01:53 <PublicServer> <Mazur> I think 4-3 is ready for a second inspection, V. 20:01:56 <Ramsus08191> yea, but there is no way now to access it, its exactly in the heart of it lol 20:02:21 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> hmmm perhaps a 3 tl train... 20:02:40 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00064CDD: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00064CDD.png 20:02:59 *** Polygon has joined #openttdcoop 20:08:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> Mazur: cant see any mistakes 20:08:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> ;) 20:08:32 <PublicServer> <Mazur> You should drink less. 20:08:36 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Or more. 20:08:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> yea'! 20:08:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> ... why? 20:09:17 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Because you can't find ,my mistakes in 4-3! 20:09:36 *** devilsadvocate has joined #openttdcoop 20:10:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> are there any? :) 20:10:55 <VVG> What came 1st - the network plan or the central station plan? 20:11:06 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Both. 20:11:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> network plan 20:11:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> the station is just my style 20:11:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> but yes, I counted with this :) 20:13:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> I cant wait to see it fail :D 20:13:48 <devilsadvocate> !svn 20:13:48 <PublicServer> devilsadvocate: svn update -r20080 && make && ./bin/openttd -n ps.openttdcoop.org#1 -p thefts 20:13:48 <PublicServer> devilsadvocate: svn checkout -r20080 svn://svn.openttd.org/trunk openttdcoop && cd openttdcoop && ./configure && make 20:14:57 <PublicServer> *** MattD has left the game (connection lost) 20:15:01 *** MattD has quit IRC 20:17:42 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000120E1: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000120E1.png 20:18:51 <PublicServer> <Mazur> MSH 1-3 also fixed, I think, I'm still looking. 20:20:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> missing signal 20:20:30 <Lukeus_Maximus> ok 20:20:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> ;) 20:20:36 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Was trhinking. 20:21:14 <Lukeus_Maximus> whoever it was who covered my BBH with "This won't work", "CL" and "not synced" signs, I have fixed ALL problems 20:21:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> it was me and spike 20:21:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> so... 20:21:48 <PublicServer> <Mazur> s/me/I/ 20:22:18 <Lukeus_Maximus> oh great 20:22:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> seems ok Mazur 20:22:36 <Lukeus_Maximus> I see that MSH 02 a is also covered 20:23:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> maybe it has a reason 20:25:57 <PublicServer> <Mazur> I also drew the tracks between hubs 9-11 and 10-12. Mainly just straight ahead, saw no reason to avoid mountains. 20:26:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> right 20:26:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> why not keeping them together though 20:26:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> pointless and takes more space :) 20:27:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> it is good to make LL5RR 20:27:04 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Because it was easier to turn there. That one came from the north. 20:27:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> but not this big :) 20:28:28 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Didn't want to TF to get them together and they started out wide apart. 20:28:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> cant see the wide start ;( 20:29:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> hub is ok 20:29:02 <PublicServer> <Mazur> BBH 09 20:29:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> btw that No Choice is a real bad issue 20:29:29 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Not mine. 20:30:03 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ah yes, I shifted northbound tracks east because of the position of the hub in the south. 20:30:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> well 20:30:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> shift both please :) 20:30:48 <PublicServer> <Mazur> I did, right aftr the mountains. 20:30:55 <PublicServer> <Mazur> ;-) 20:30:56 <PublicServer> <VVG> hmm 20:31:07 <PublicServer> <VVG> did i name SM drop/pickup wrong way? 20:31:22 <PublicServer> <VVG> Seeing as Brewery differs... 20:31:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> umm 20:31:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> what is different 20:32:06 <PublicServer> <VVG> letters' size 20:32:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> who cares about that :) 20:32:36 <PublicServer> <VVG> who knows who cares about that... 20:32:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 20:32:44 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0004BF33: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0004BF33.png 20:32:56 *** murr7y has quit IRC 20:33:35 *** murr7y has joined #openttdcoop 20:33:44 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 20:35:30 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 20:37:59 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 20:37:59 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 20:41:29 <Lukeus_Maximus> ok 20:41:44 <Lukeus_Maximus> could someone pro fix MSH 02 a while I watch 20:42:17 <Lukeus_Maximus> then maybe I can figure out what I'm doing wrong 20:45:45 <PublicServer> <Mazur> I can only help with gthe desynchyed bridges, I know them well. 20:45:58 <Lukeus_Maximus> well that's easy 20:46:04 <Lukeus_Maximus> I'll fix that myself 20:47:27 *** Razmir has joined #openttdcoop 20:47:31 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> with these light rails its quite difficult to see the signals.... 20:47:46 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000000: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00000000.png 20:48:08 <PublicServer> <Mazur> No problem for me. 20:48:52 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Mind you, I have the electric off in transparent. 20:48:59 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> me too 20:49:35 <PublicServer> *** Razmir joined the game 20:49:56 *** Vitus has joined #openttdcoop 20:50:56 <Vitus> !password 20:50:56 <PublicServer> Vitus: motley 20:51:35 <PublicServer> *** Vitus joined the game 20:51:37 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey 20:51:46 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> Hi 20:52:01 <PublicServer> *** VVG has left the game (leaving) 20:52:02 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Anything new? 20:53:15 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 20:53:21 *** MattD has joined #openttdcoop 20:53:45 <avdg> no1 on server, fine :) 20:53:50 <MattD> back =) 20:53:59 <Vitus> @coopstats 20:53:59 <Webster> http://hyru.ath.cx:60080/~kenji/ottdcoop/stats.html 20:53:59 <MattD> no ones on anything??? 20:54:07 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 20:54:08 <avdg> just kidding :p 20:54:23 <MattD> !password 20:54:23 <PublicServer> MattD: motley 20:54:37 <PublicServer> *** MattD joined the game 20:54:42 <MattD> ok well.... lemme see if i can do anything :D 20:54:57 <avdg> :p new binaries again 20:55:16 <MattD> um... nope, still working.... sheesh its big but it seems to take forever to make the perfect network 20:55:40 <avdg> Matt: crash a train and say you saw an error on it :p 20:55:48 <MattD> huh? :O 20:56:15 <avdg> I won't recommend to do it :p 20:56:18 <MattD> why are the buses well..... 20:56:26 <MattD> they dont got the speed there going 20:56:37 <MattD> just blank.... 20:56:38 <avdg> I can't see 20:57:57 <avdg> strange, my svn makes conflics and I didn't make changes 20:58:28 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Your SVN doesn't like you, that's it 20:58:43 <MattD> svn? 20:58:52 <avdg> a developer tool :) 20:59:00 <planetmaker> svn = subversion 20:59:02 <MattD> ...m'k 21:00:47 *** Polygon has quit IRC 21:00:57 <avdg> its a tool that allows you to travel in time **overreacts** 21:01:26 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Damn, I should really get the latest version... :D 21:01:31 *** Polygon has joined #openttdcoop 21:01:40 <avdg> ? 21:02:00 <PublicServer> <Vitus> My version doesn't allow time travel 21:02:09 <avdg> :) 21:03:09 <PublicServer> <MattD> i wonder when trains will start to actually use this network.... 21:03:20 <PublicServer> <Vitus> When it's ready 21:03:28 <PublicServer> <MattD> how long? 21:03:47 *** X-BT has joined #openttdcoop 21:03:49 <avdg> well, all time thats needed 21:03:54 <PublicServer> <Vitus> When we build the rest of BBSs/MSHs 21:04:03 <PublicServer> <Vitus> *BBHs 21:04:18 <PublicServer> <MattD> BBH??? MSH??? ugh i shoulda read that manual thing.... 21:04:19 <avdg> wtf psw 21:04:35 <PublicServer> *** avdg joined the game 21:04:45 <PublicServer> <Vitus> BackBone Hub, Main Station Hub 21:04:48 <PublicServer> *** avdg has left the game (connection lost) 21:04:49 *** avdg has quit IRC 21:04:55 <PublicServer> <MattD> ok then. 21:05:09 <PublicServer> *** avdg joined the game 21:05:44 <PublicServer> *** avdg has left the game (connection lost) 21:05:54 <PublicServer> <MattD> the game dosnt like you avdg :D 21:05:59 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 21:07:38 <avdg> hmm 21:08:01 <PublicServer> *** avdg joined the game 21:08:19 <PublicServer> <Mazur> hi, avdg 21:08:20 <PublicServer> <avdg> again disconnected 21:08:23 <PublicServer> *** avdg has left the game (connection lost) 21:08:24 *** avdg has quit IRC 21:08:45 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 21:08:50 <avdg> lol, wifi 21:08:53 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Oh, Mazur's here 21:08:58 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Where? 21:08:59 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Did you sort out those prios? 21:09:11 <PublicServer> <Mazur> V did them. 21:09:12 *** avdg has quit IRC 21:09:18 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Ah :D 21:09:19 <PublicServer> <Mazur> So I assume they're ok. 21:09:28 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Quite wrongly, of course.... 21:09:29 <PublicServer> <Vitus> MSH 4-3? 21:09:41 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes. 21:09:44 <PublicServer> *** Benom joined the game 21:10:06 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey 21:10:22 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 21:10:24 <PublicServer> <Mazur> WHat? 21:10:27 <PublicServer> <Vitus> MSH 3-4 is ultra compact :D 21:11:10 *** Mitcian has quit IRC 21:11:35 <PublicServer> <Mazur> It seems V453000 has _some_ experience building hubs. 21:11:35 *** avdg has quit IRC 21:11:53 <PublicServer> <Vitus> How did you find out? :D 21:12:07 <PublicServer> <Mazur> You mentioned 3-4/ 21:12:26 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 21:12:49 <PublicServer> <Razmir> what is minimal CL? 21:12:52 <PublicServer> <Vitus> 5 21:12:57 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Oh, Razmir 21:12:58 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey 21:13:02 <PublicServer> <Razmir> hi :) 21:13:30 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> aw, why not 1 tl sinals..? 21:13:36 <PublicServer> <Razmir> shit, I dont know about me building hub with cl5, but I will try... 21:13:48 <PublicServer> <Vitus> It doesn't look good and it's TOTALLY useless :) 21:13:58 * avdg moves to lan :p 21:14:12 <PublicServer> <Razmir> and makes it more difficult to rebuild anything 21:14:17 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> how do you change space so fast..? 21:14:38 <PublicServer> *** Benom has left the game (leaving) 21:14:42 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Just drag'n'drop with buldozer active 21:14:59 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> ah, of course :D 21:15:50 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> lol 21:16:06 <PublicServer> <Vitus> :) 21:16:35 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Well, this *could* be useful on diagonals, but that means VERY dense traffic 21:16:46 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> hmmm alright 21:17:19 *** avdg1 has joined #openttdcoop 21:17:24 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Razmir, go, build your own hub :) 21:17:32 <PublicServer> <Vitus> (unless you do that already :D ) 21:17:33 * avdg1 cheers 21:17:49 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00012BD0: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00012BD0.png 21:18:02 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Alright 21:18:37 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (leaving) 21:19:35 <PublicServer> *** avdg joined the game 21:19:43 <PublicServer> <avdg> wtf psw again 21:19:56 <PublicServer> <avdg> did somone touched the dictionary? :p 21:20:18 <PublicServer> <Vitus> What password? 21:20:29 <PublicServer> <avdg> of this server 21:20:58 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Yes, yes, I could have guessed... but it's not on IRC (unless I'm blind) 21:21:19 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> Vitus, is my hub ok? 21:21:24 <PublicServer> <avdg> where? 21:21:31 <PublicServer> <Vitus> BBH 04? 21:21:32 <PublicServer> <avdg> :o giant centre 21:21:34 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> yup 21:21:48 <PublicServer> <avdg> cl = 5? 21:21:53 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Yes 21:22:00 <PublicServer> <Vitus> TL is 5, also 21:22:02 *** avdg has quit IRC 21:22:41 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Well, there is at least one problem so far 21:22:45 *** murr8y has joined #openttdcoop 21:22:51 <PublicServer> <avdg> many pbs signals :p 21:22:55 <PublicServer> <avdg> just a notice :p 21:23:03 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> yay, unfortunately I have spoted some problems but it would require a major rebuild, better I note it down and implement on the next ones 21:23:12 <PublicServer> *** avdg has joined company #1 21:23:15 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> yeap, this is one of the problems 21:23:23 <PublicServer> <Vitus> This one is rather serious 21:23:33 *** murr7y has quit IRC 21:23:33 <PublicServer> <Vitus> But shouldn't be hard to fix 21:23:52 <PublicServer> <Vitus> voila 21:24:06 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> omg O.O that was freaking fast 21:24:15 <PublicServer> <Vitus> :D 21:24:43 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Look over !here 21:24:55 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Slow corner (zig-zag), rather easy to fix, though :) 21:25:13 <PublicServer> <Vitus> And you can also avoid PBS, which is better in most cases 21:25:46 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> hmm but pbs isnt like the same thing then entrey-exit signal in this case? 21:26:01 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hmm, yes. But presignals are more reliable 21:26:07 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> ? 21:26:13 <PublicServer> <avdg> its a big diffrend in cpu usages and reliability (less crashes) 21:26:27 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Yes, less CPU effort, too 21:26:28 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> ah I see. Now that makes sense 21:26:35 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> sorry, I didnt know that 21:26:57 <PublicServer> <Vitus> PBS sometimes can't decide where to go and it slows down traffic 21:27:03 <PublicServer> <avdg> pbs does sometimes really strange stuff when you edit tracks 21:27:25 <PublicServer> *** Lukeus Maximus has left the game (leaving) 21:27:27 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Usually: When you can avoid PBS, do it 21:27:42 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> alright, noted it 21:27:57 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> bleh, now I want to redo the joins :D 21:28:17 <PublicServer> <avdg> :p 21:28:25 <PublicServer> <avdg> srr for just spamming signs :p 21:28:29 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Some are not really balanced, but we shall see.. :) 21:28:40 <PublicServer> <avdg> building bbh aren't my thing if there is no logic in it 21:28:46 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> yea, lazy balancing..... 21:29:18 <PublicServer> <avdg> penalties are a bad thing too, if you can avoid them 21:29:31 <PublicServer> <Vitus> How come? 21:32:19 *** Phazorx has joined #openttdcoop 21:32:19 *** Webster sets mode: +o Phazorx 21:32:51 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000161C2: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000161C2.png 21:34:41 *** Cap_J_L_Picard has quit IRC 21:34:44 <V453000> !password 21:34:44 <PublicServer> V453000: oracle 21:34:55 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 21:34:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> lo 21:34:57 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey 21:35:03 <PublicServer> <avdg> hey 21:35:07 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> hey 21:35:12 *** Phazorx has left #openttdcoop 21:35:14 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey 21:35:18 <PublicServer> <Razmir> hi 21:35:25 *** Phazorx has joined #openttdcoop 21:35:25 *** Webster sets mode: +o Phazorx 21:35:36 *** Lukeus_Maximus has quit IRC 21:36:12 *** Phazorx has left #openttdcoop 21:36:56 *** Phazorx has joined #openttdcoop 21:36:56 *** Webster sets mode: +o Phazorx 21:37:52 <PublicServer> <avdg> beh... too lazy to build, not lazy enough to catch errors 21:38:44 <PublicServer> <Vitus> V., those non-center MSHs are LL_RR -> L_R, right? 21:39:02 <PublicServer> <Razmir> ? 21:39:18 <PublicServer> <Razmir> I just made > LL_RR 21:40:19 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Well, MSH 3-4 is L_R 21:40:48 <PublicServer> <Razmir> never mind, bigger is better :) 21:41:10 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Well, yeah. You can always merge it to single line :) 21:41:30 <PublicServer> <avdg> still some stuff overated at my working spot :p 21:41:54 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Razmir, you might want to check !here 21:41:56 <PublicServer> <Razmir> MSH 4-1 is > LL_RR too 21:42:21 <PublicServer> <Vitus> It would be better to move the split little bit further, this way you can block trains that want to split because the bridges are full 21:42:29 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Or use PBS 21:42:40 *** Phazorx has left #openttdcoop 21:42:49 <PublicServer> <Razmir> it should not happen to be both full... 21:43:18 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Should not doesn't mean cannot :P But I agree, it's detail 21:43:48 <PublicServer> *** Gnemo joined the game 21:44:25 <PublicServer> <Razmir> how long prios? 21:44:56 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Just do some prio, we can adjust it later 21:45:35 <PublicServer> <MattD> lol what happened at central drop? 21:45:46 <PublicServer> <MattD> abit of rageing at the oil well.... 21:46:16 <V453000> yes, every X-x MSH is L_R 21:47:53 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003C61A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003C61A.png 21:48:02 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 21:49:25 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> whats the maximum lengh for a bridge? 21:49:33 <Vitus> @gap 5 21:49:33 <Webster> Vitus: For Trainlength of 5: <= 11 needs 2, 12 - 18 needs 3, 19 - 25 needs 4. 21:49:34 <PublicServer> <avdg> long enough :p 21:50:35 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> does it starts counting after the exit signal? 21:51:10 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Well, if I remember correctly, it's number of tiles w/o signal 21:51:14 *** Yso has quit IRC 21:51:15 <PublicServer> <Vitus> But I could be wrong 21:51:17 <PublicServer> *** Yso has left the game (leaving) 21:51:40 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 21:54:44 <PublicServer> *** Vitus has left the game (leaving) 21:54:49 <Vitus> Good night! 21:54:53 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> c ya 21:54:55 <PublicServer> <MattD> nighty night 21:54:56 <PublicServer> <avdg> cya 21:55:10 *** Vitus has quit IRC 21:55:32 <PublicServer> <avdg> pff... buzy with msh 01 E 21:55:52 <PublicServer> * avdg needs energyboost 22:00:30 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> bleh, I am redoing those joins..... 22:00:57 *** Progman has quit IRC 22:01:19 <PublicServer> <Razmir> check please MSH 1-1 and mark possible problems... 22:01:55 <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm 22:02:12 <VVG> Razmir: don't repeat others' mistakes! 22:02:25 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> dont use pbs 22:02:30 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> :D 22:02:42 <PublicServer> <Razmir> I dont have any PBS 22:02:56 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00047332: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00047332.png 22:02:56 <PublicServer> <avdg> over-avoiding is also a bad thing ;-) 22:02:57 <PublicServer> <MattD> why is PBS shunned so much? 22:03:41 <PublicServer> <avdg> because the many disadvantages 22:03:58 <PublicServer> <avdg> the only real advantage with pbs is that they are done quickly 22:04:06 <PublicServer> <MattD> ^_^ 22:04:13 <PublicServer> <Razmir> because trains need some time to decide which way to go sometimes > slowing down 22:04:34 <VVG> !password 22:04:34 <PublicServer> VVG: drapes 22:05:01 <PublicServer> <avdg> normally, trains are fast enough in deciding 22:05:14 <PublicServer> *** VVG joined the game 22:05:19 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop 22:05:21 <PublicServer> <Razmir> but not on all cases 22:05:24 <PublicServer> <avdg> but yes, pbs has a cpu cost 22:06:37 <PublicServer> <VVG> Road crossig is a penalty for pf? 22:06:38 <Chris_Booth> avdg PBS cpu cost is nothing compared to PF 22:06:54 <PublicServer> <Razmir> VVG: work too 22:07:02 <PublicServer> <avdg> well, pbs uses the pf 22:08:26 *** Phazorx has joined #openttdcoop 22:08:26 *** Webster sets mode: +o Phazorx 22:13:07 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> how do I determine prios lenghs? 22:13:13 <PublicServer> <avdg> just build one 22:13:19 <PublicServer> <avdg> the lenght will be adjusted 22:17:58 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00038E15: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00038E15.png 22:20:44 *** Phazorx has quit IRC 22:25:47 *** ODM has quit IRC 22:28:19 *** jondisti has joined #openttdcoop 22:28:20 *** pugi has quit IRC 22:30:47 <PublicServer> *** Gnemo has left the game (leaving) 22:31:43 *** jondisti has quit IRC 22:33:00 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003B01B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003B01B.png 22:34:44 <PublicServer> <avdg> pff... i want chaos now 22:38:15 *** Lelle has quit IRC 22:39:17 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 22:41:00 <PublicServer> <avdg> :) 22:41:09 <PublicServer> <Razmir> I made one better join in my MSH 1-1, but I need a lot of space for that... is it ok? 22:41:12 <PublicServer> <VVG> exactky 22:41:17 <PublicServer> <MattD> Chaos would be fun but..... order is law..... 22:41:26 <PublicServer> <MattD> screw it, blow up the hole map for all i care :P 22:41:31 <PublicServer> <avdg> :) 22:41:54 <PublicServer> <avdg> chaos goes well with skilled players 22:42:57 <PublicServer> <MattD> then i must be the best player in ottd ^_^ 22:48:02 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00049838: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00049838.png 22:49:48 <PublicServer> <Razmir> good night 22:49:56 <PublicServer> <avdg> gn 22:49:57 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> bye 22:50:07 <PublicServer> *** Razmir has left the game (leaving) 22:52:49 <VVG> bleh 22:53:09 <VVG> wanted pickup and drop trains avoid each other and there is not enogh space :( 22:53:29 <PublicServer> <avdg> sign it 22:55:35 <VVG> what? 22:55:48 <PublicServer> <avdg> nvm 23:01:21 *** ^Spike^ has quit IRC 23:03:04 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0004963C: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0004963C.png 23:06:38 *** X-BT has quit IRC 23:10:06 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 23:16:17 <PublicServer> *** MattD has left the game (connection lost) 23:16:19 *** MattD has quit IRC 23:18:06 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0004740E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0004740E.png 23:18:36 *** valhallasw has quit IRC 23:19:59 <PublicServer> *** avdg has left the game (leaving) 23:21:02 *** mixrin has quit IRC 23:22:14 *** Razmir has left #openttdcoop 23:27:45 <PublicServer> *** Gnemo joined the game 23:28:40 *** Barbaar has quit IRC 23:30:15 *** MattD has joined #openttdcoop 23:30:24 <MattD> and im back :D 23:30:27 <MattD> again... :D 23:30:30 <MattD> !password 23:30:30 <PublicServer> MattD: rhymed 23:30:47 <PublicServer> *** MattD joined the game 23:33:09 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001E7DB: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001E7DB.png 23:35:57 <PublicServer> *** Gnemo has joined company #1 23:37:12 <PublicServer> *** MattD has left the game (connection lost) 23:37:16 *** MattD has quit IRC 23:37:47 <PublicServer> *** Gnemo has left the game (leaving) 23:43:30 <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game 23:46:40 <PublicServer> *** VVG has left the game (leaving) 23:48:11 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001DDE9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001DDE9.png 23:56:10 *** Ammler has quit IRC 23:56:15 *** Ammler has joined #openttdcoop 23:56:15 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Ammler