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00:01:04 * Mazur has that Shaikra in his head, going "Wakka, wakka." all thue time. 00:04:22 <duckblaster> should i double the bridges near MSH 02b? 00:07:00 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000000: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00000000.png 00:07:23 <Mazur> Yes. 00:08:05 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Those are ML bridges, meaning lots of tgrains will pass. 00:09:08 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Like that it isn't synched. 00:09:53 <duckblaster> like that? 00:10:09 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Thta one not either. 00:10:16 *** MattD has joined #openttdcoop 00:10:29 <MattD> hello all :) 00:12:24 <MattD> well i got to conserve power, we had a power surge in my neighborhood so im going to log off, good night all. 00:12:28 *** MattD has quit IRC 00:13:40 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hmmm. 00:14:48 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Likely. 00:15:42 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Doi you understand synching bridges, duckblaster? 00:15:49 <duckblaster> not really 00:16:37 <PublicServer> <Mazur> The main issue it, that trains take the same time going either way. 00:17:05 <PublicServer> <Mazur> That means that 1: the length of either track is equal. 00:18:19 <PublicServer> <Mazur> And 2: that signalling is such, that two trains close together can flow over the bridges as if they were still on a single normal track. 00:20:23 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Can you see how I achieved that at the first two bridges? 00:20:57 *** pugi has quit IRC 00:21:13 <PublicServer> <Mazur> At !here, I mean. 00:21:26 <PublicServer> <Mazur> The other one is sgill not synched. 00:23:58 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 00:26:15 *** Mitcian has quit IRC 00:27:02 <PublicServer> <Mazur> With the original bridge in place, I'd have moved over the lein from the north one track and then easily achive a synched bridge, wiuthout any TF. 00:27:24 <PublicServer> <Mazur> line 00:27:59 <duckblaster> i can't figure out how 00:28:10 <PublicServer> <Mazur> k 00:29:40 <PublicServer> <Mazur> It was different, before. 00:30:10 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Lemme think. 00:32:00 <PublicServer> <Mazur> This should work. 00:33:29 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Now tha last one should be easy. 00:34:13 <duckblaster> like that? 00:34:21 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Indeed. 00:34:40 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Can you figuire how to signal it? 00:37:01 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000D42B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000D42B.png 00:39:09 *** snc has quit IRC 00:39:53 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Now of course the signalling is never a neck-matter in these cases, because you can come back and watch them when ythe trains are running. See how they work. 00:40:16 <PublicServer> <Mazur> But it's always nice to gett it right first time. 00:41:19 <PublicServer> <Mazur> You can bet your sweet ass I'll be checking all those I worked on when things are in full swing, 00:42:07 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Only to sit back and purr if they work right. 00:42:44 <PublicServer> *** duckblaster has left the game (connection lost) 00:50:27 *** duckblaster has quit IRC 00:52:03 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000000: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00000000.png 00:56:48 *** Phazorx has quit IRC 01:03:49 *** snc has joined #openttdcoop 01:10:17 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (leaving) 01:10:55 <Mazur> Hey, snc. 01:31:43 *** murr8y is now known as murr4y 01:52:56 <PublicServer> *** Benom joined the game 02:06:12 <PublicServer> *** Benom has left the game (leaving) 02:24:13 *** murr4y has quit IRC 02:52:45 *** duckblaster has joined #openttdcoop 02:54:22 <duckblaster> !password 02:54:22 <PublicServer> duckblaster: meshes 02:55:17 <PublicServer> *** duckblaster joined the game 02:56:35 <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game 02:56:50 <duckblaster> i had to go for a bit 02:57:05 <PublicServer> <Mazur> I noticed., 03:07:05 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000822B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000822B.png 03:08:01 *** gr00vy has quit IRC 03:08:13 *** gr00vy has joined #openttdcoop 03:09:52 <PublicServer> <Mazur> I justed wanted to solve that one unsynched bridge I left behind. 03:10:36 <duckblaster> what's wrong at !cl? 03:10:48 <duckblaster> i see it now 03:12:10 <PublicServer> <Mazur> First there was another one beforfe the bridges, but I solved that. 03:12:45 <PublicServer> <Mazur> The one I now marked is as yet unsolved, 03:12:54 <duckblaster> it is now 03:15:15 <duckblaster> there is some track that is not connected to anything, mostly 1 tile long, should that be deleted? (not stations) 03:15:39 <duckblaster> like !here 03:16:34 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes, that's just a remainder of an earlier atttempt, i guess. 03:16:58 <duckblaster> there are a few other spots too 03:18:06 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes, they might be markers of some sort, I generallhy make a pairm to mark the centre of my hub, but sometimes one forgets gto remove them 03:18:09 *** Keyboard_Warrior has joined #openttdcoop 03:19:06 *** Keyboard_Warrior has joined #openttdcoop 03:22:07 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00003432: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00003432.png 03:25:00 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Well, tomorow all the second pickups should be added to th stations that need them, and then swe can start rolling. 03:25:05 *** theholyduck has quit IRC 03:26:18 <duckblaster> what does the aluminium plant take? 03:26:59 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Bauxite, in the real world. 03:27:07 <duckblaster> in game i mean 03:27:14 <duckblaster> anything? 03:27:49 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Bauxite, chemicaqls and scdrap metal, 03:28:15 <duckblaster> 4 stations then 03:28:29 <PublicServer> <Mazur> 3 drops, one pickup 03:29:15 <duckblaster> whats up with the bridge !here 03:29:24 <PublicServer> <Mazur> You can doublecheck !here 03:30:11 <duckblaster> shoul the !odd bridge go? 03:30:30 <PublicServer> <Mazur> One mo 03:31:35 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Serves no purpose, so yes, if it hinders you. 03:31:50 <duckblaster> it just seems odd 03:32:32 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Well, sometimes people have fun. This might be one such occaasion. 03:35:04 <duckblaster> could you check my plan for the stations at MSH 4-4 please 03:36:02 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Sure. Just try to keep tf to a minimum. 03:37:10 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00065E79: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00065E79.png 03:40:27 *** gleeb has quit IRC 03:40:27 *** Born_Acorn has quit IRC 03:40:49 *** orudge has quit IRC 03:43:43 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Sorry, just bored with grey. 03:44:23 <duckblaster> don't slow them down too much 03:52:12 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00064873: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00064873.png 03:52:39 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Trciky. 03:53:20 <PublicServer> <Mazur> That connection with the MSH. 03:53:32 <duckblaster> tunnels and bridges? 03:54:13 <PublicServer> <Mazur> SXure. 03:59:49 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Seems to be no other option, sure., 04:00:07 <duckblaster> could use a bridge i think 04:03:47 <PublicServer> <Mazur> It's like this: TF is not forbidden, but discouraged. Likie at that other station you built, you immediately flattened the hills before even attemnpting to build with them in place, which I thought was quite possible, 04:07:14 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00061877: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00061877.png 04:08:33 <PublicServer> <Mazur> ANd one trick to terraforming is making it look like you never did any, like it's still a natural landdscape., 04:11:30 *** Born_Acorn has joined #openttdcoop 04:15:15 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes, numerous CL issues, but I'd just buiod ig and wait for reations. 04:15:51 *** orudge has joined #openttdcoop 04:16:51 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Mind you,, I;d have placed my stations so I'd not have those issues, but that's another story. 04:17:28 <duckblaster> i could remove the hill next to the pickup and put it there 04:18:14 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Or just put the pickup half behind it. 04:18:41 *** murr4y has joined #openttdcoop 04:21:26 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Or move the hill. 04:22:16 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00064E74: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00064E74.png 04:24:00 *** AbsurdMind has joined #openttdcoop 04:24:33 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Those are long tunnels, thye'd need doubling. 04:25:01 *** Absurd-Mind has quit IRC 04:25:57 *** AbsurdMind is now known as Absurd-Mind 04:37:18 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0006306B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0006306B.png 04:37:20 *** holyduck has joined #openttdcoop 04:41:50 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Why not this? 04:42:25 *** elmz_ has joined #openttdcoop 04:42:27 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ah, sorry, was confusing entry withh exit, 04:42:59 *** elmz has quit IRC 04:43:45 <duckblaster> i think tha's done 04:43:51 <duckblaster> that's 04:43:57 <duckblaster> now for the signals 04:44:09 *** Keyboard_Warrior has quit IRC 04:44:52 <PublicServer> <Mazur> No signals, then? 04:46:11 <PublicServer> <Mazur> You brit, keep right! 04:46:12 <duckblaster> oops 04:46:29 <PublicServer> <Mazur> :-D 04:46:32 <duckblaster> i'm not from britain 04:46:41 <duckblaster> New Zealand 04:50:31 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Don;t try and hide behind a Kiwi facade, pommie, if you canl;t keep right, you're one of those selfleftious bastards! 04:51:15 <duckblaster> i'm actually in rarotonga for a few years, but originally from NZ 04:51:40 <duckblaster> never been near pomgolia (as my english teacher called it) 04:52:20 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00064265: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00064265.png 04:55:52 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Of course, gomorrow peoplddwill point out gheeir numerous issues wirth yj 04:56:28 <PublicServer> <Mazur> the stations, bjut that is a learning experience. 05:00:32 <PublicServer> <Mazur> I have to go to bed now, see you next time. 05:01:13 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (connection lost) 05:04:52 *** orudge has quit IRC 05:05:06 *** Born_Acorn has quit IRC 05:07:22 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001259A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001259A.png 05:10:30 *** Phazorx has joined #openttdcoop 05:10:30 *** Webster sets mode: +o Phazorx 05:16:11 *** orudge has joined #openttdcoop 05:16:56 *** Born_Acorn has joined #openttdcoop 05:23:35 *** Razaekel has quit IRC 05:28:03 *** Razaekel has joined #openttdcoop 06:17:28 *** tneo has quit IRC 06:17:57 *** tneo has joined #openttdcoop 06:17:57 *** Webster sets mode: +o tneo 06:20:57 *** SmatZ- has joined #openttdcoop 06:21:58 *** Hirundo has quit IRC 06:22:57 *** pm has joined #openttdcoop 06:22:57 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o pm 06:22:58 *** Hirundo has joined #openttdcoop 06:23:48 *** planetmaker has quit IRC 06:23:56 *** SmatZ has quit IRC 06:28:20 *** pm is now known as planetmaker 06:29:11 *** Yso has joined #openttdcoop 06:30:37 <PublicServer> *** Yso joined the game 06:37:13 <PublicServer> *** Yso has left the game (leaving) 06:37:29 *** ^Spike^ has joined #openttdcoop 06:37:30 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ^Spike^ 06:38:31 <PublicServer> *** duckblaster has left the game (connection lost) 06:38:55 <duckblaster> !password 06:38:55 <PublicServer> duckblaster: rogues 06:39:46 <PublicServer> *** duckblaster joined the game 06:51:45 *** holyduck has quit IRC 06:59:22 <V453000> !password 06:59:22 <PublicServer> V453000: wadded 06:59:42 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 06:59:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> mornin 07:01:00 <duckblaster> mind checking the signals for plastic and aluminium please 07:01:15 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 07:01:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> the plastic drop will bork :) 07:02:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> ugh 07:02:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> and you never split drops 07:07:24 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000000: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00000000.png 07:10:22 <duckblaster> blame Mazur 07:10:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> :D 07:10:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> Mazur: you be dead 07:10:42 <duckblaster> he's not here now 07:10:46 <duckblaster> gone to bed 07:10:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> I se 07:10:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> e 07:10:58 *** SmatZ- is now known as SmatZ 07:11:16 <duckblaster> i thought the signals were a bit off, but wasn't sure how they should be 07:11:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> the problem is that the station is one block 07:11:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> so it is a station for PBS 07:11:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> which I can not recommend :) 07:12:31 <pugi> v is still awake? 07:12:35 <pugi> or awake again? :D 07:12:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> no, avake again 07:12:44 <pugi> okay ;) 07:12:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 07:13:07 <SmatZ> hello V453000 :) 07:13:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> hey SmatZ :) 07:13:29 <PublicServer> *** duckblaster has left the game (connection lost) 07:13:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> =( 07:13:48 <duckblaster> just a minute 07:13:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> I am writing signs anyway :p 07:14:01 <duckblaster> !password 07:14:01 <PublicServer> duckblaster: savage 07:14:15 <duckblaster> stupid net connection 07:14:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 07:14:58 <duckblaster> somehow freenode did a bunch of net splits and i ended up on my own 07:15:18 <duckblaster> and openttd keeps droping out too 07:15:38 <PublicServer> *** duckblaster joined the game 07:15:39 <pugi> !playercount 07:15:39 <PublicServer> pugi: Number of players: 2 07:16:32 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ joined the game 07:16:32 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> hello 07:16:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> hey :) 07:16:38 <pugi> !password 07:16:38 <PublicServer> pugi: savage 07:16:39 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :) 07:16:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> wha 07:16:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> D: 07:16:50 <PublicServer> *** puugi joined the game 07:16:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> massive meeting :) 07:16:54 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :) 07:17:02 <duckblaster> where are the new signs? 07:17:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> I am making a complete trainyard 07:17:25 <PublicServer> <puugi> a, yeah.. 07:17:27 <PublicServer> <puugi> overkill :P 07:17:45 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> quite flat map for arctic cliamte 07:17:48 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has joined spectators 07:17:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> variety distribution I guess 07:18:09 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has joined company #1 07:19:49 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has joined spectators 07:19:49 <duckblaster> if you can, please tidy up plastic and aluminium please 07:20:34 <PublicServer> <puugi> i think it is called aluminum, not aluminium 07:20:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> wrong :) 07:20:50 <SmatZ> UK/US English maybe 07:20:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> rly? 07:20:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> o_O 07:21:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> stupid US english :/ 07:21:07 * duckblaster throws the dictionary at puugi 07:21:15 <PublicServer> * puugi ducks 07:21:43 <duckblaster> i don't use US english 07:22:03 <pugi> well, i also used aluminium always 07:22:13 <pugi> but in dwarf fortress it is aluminum :P 07:22:16 <SmatZ> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium#Present-day_spelling 07:22:17 <Webster> Title: Aluminium - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) 07:22:19 <SmatZ> hehe :) 07:22:23 <pugi> :D 07:22:26 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00015807: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00015807.png 07:23:35 <PublicServer> <puugi> you are killing the lake :( 07:23:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> die 07:23:51 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :D 07:24:06 <PublicServer> <puugi> why not make the trainyard 90° turned? 07:24:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> because it is N and S oriented? 07:24:35 <PublicServer> <puugi> but it would fit much better W-E 07:24:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> ... 07:24:59 <PublicServer> <puugi> is there a rule that trainyard have to be north-south? :P 07:25:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> omg 07:25:11 <PublicServer> <puugi> :D 07:25:15 *** Phazorx has quit IRC 07:25:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> can you see the train groupning? 07:25:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> in the trainyard 07:25:54 <PublicServer> <puugi> hmm 07:26:05 <PublicServer> <puugi> i just noticed: you are making 2 of every train 07:36:13 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has joined company #1 07:36:17 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has joined spectators 07:36:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> testing something? :) 07:36:30 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> yup :) 07:36:56 *** fmauneko has joined #openttdcoop 07:37:01 <fmauneko> !playercount 07:37:01 <PublicServer> fmauneko: Number of players: 4 07:37:02 <fmauneko> Hai 07:37:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 07:37:16 <fmauneko> !password 07:37:16 <PublicServer> fmauneko: hyenas 07:37:28 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00028F30: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00028F30.png 07:37:47 <fmauneko> grr 07:37:49 <fmauneko> !password 07:37:49 <PublicServer> fmauneko: pouted 07:37:53 <PublicServer> SmatZ: you are not allowed to use !rcon 07:37:56 <PublicServer> SmatZ: you are not allowed to use !rcon 07:38:00 <PublicServer> *** fmauNeko joined the game 07:38:10 <SmatZ> hmm 07:39:32 <V453000> wtf :p 07:39:34 <V453000> :o 07:40:40 <SmatZ> V453000: can you use rcon? 07:40:50 <V453000> !rcon set max_trains 07:40:50 <PublicServer> V453000: Current value for 'max_trains' is: '500' (min: 0, max: 5000) 07:40:53 <V453000> seems so 07:40:59 <V453000> need something? 07:41:09 <SmatZ> I guess I forgot what I need :) 07:41:12 <V453000> :D 07:41:18 * SmatZ reconnects 07:41:41 <SmatZ> !rcon set max_trains 07:41:41 <PublicServer> SmatZ: you are not allowed to use !rcon 07:41:41 <PublicServer> *** puugi has left the game (connection lost) 07:41:45 <SmatZ> fine :( 07:42:10 <V453000> you cant identify or? :( 07:42:15 <SmatZ> I am identified 07:42:20 <V453000> oh 07:42:23 <SmatZ> with NickServ :) 07:42:33 <SmatZ> I don't remember I should identify to PublicServer 07:42:36 <SmatZ> should I? 07:42:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont know 07:42:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> maybe with Webster 07:43:03 *** pugi_ has joined #openttdcoop 07:43:16 <pugi_> !password 07:43:16 <PublicServer> pugi_: pouted 07:43:24 <SmatZ> !rcon set max_trains 07:43:24 <PublicServer> SmatZ: you are not allowed to use !rcon 07:43:31 <SmatZ> V453000: didn't help :( 07:43:34 <SmatZ> ok, I will just wait :) 07:43:35 <PublicServer> *** puugi joined the game 07:43:40 <SmatZ> or use ssh ;) 07:43:46 <V453000> if you need something over rcon, just tell me :) 07:43:54 <SmatZ> :) 07:44:08 <PublicServer> <puugi> the beer station looks awesome with beer tanks in pf-traps :D 07:44:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 07:44:14 <SmatZ> :) 07:44:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> FIRS has one bug though 07:44:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> HQ doesnt accept beer 07:44:43 <SmatZ> :D 07:44:44 <PublicServer> <puugi> haha 07:45:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> I told it to the firs devs but didnt seem to have any success 07:45:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> in terms of making them changeit :D 07:46:45 *** pugi has quit IRC 07:46:45 *** pugi_ is now known as pugi 07:46:46 <PublicServer> <puugi> haha, raper longhairz :D 07:46:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> ? 07:47:00 <PublicServer> <puugi> +p 07:47:05 <PublicServer> <puugi> our president 07:47:32 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has left the game (leaving) 07:50:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> HMPH 07:50:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> small trainyard 07:50:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> small 07:52:30 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000000: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00000000.png 07:54:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> see the old trainyard 07:55:01 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Haha, 4 missing person per train :p 07:55:04 <PublicServer> <puugi> oh noes 07:55:11 <PublicServer> <puugi> people are sinking 07:55:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> HAHA I am so evil 07:58:33 *** theholyduck has joined #openttdcoop 07:58:57 *** SmatZ has left #openttdcoop 07:59:01 *** SmatZ has joined #openttdcoop 07:59:01 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o SmatZ 07:59:08 <SmatZ> !rcon set max_trains 07:59:08 <PublicServer> SmatZ: Current value for 'max_trains' is: '500' (min: 0, max: 5000) 08:02:47 *** Absolutis has joined #openttdcoop 08:02:59 <Absolutis> hi 08:03:08 <Absolutis> !help 08:03:08 <PublicServer> Absolutis: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands 08:03:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> hello 08:03:47 <Absolutis> !download 08:03:47 <PublicServer> Absolutis: !download autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|win32|win64|win9x 08:03:56 <Absolutis> download win32 08:04:05 <Absolutis> !download win32 08:04:05 <PublicServer> Absolutis: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r20080/openttd-trunk-r20080-windows-win32.zip 08:04:19 <Absolutis> !password 08:04:19 <PublicServer> Absolutis: pewter 08:04:53 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Hi absolutis 08:05:42 <Absolutis> Where i should put the program and all on windows? 08:05:54 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Wherever you want 08:05:54 <pugi> in any folder 08:05:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> just unpack it somewhere :) 08:06:10 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Haha "Drunk trains fall from hill" 08:06:10 <Absolutis> what about the document thing? 08:06:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> these are shared for all openttds you have 08:07:00 <Absolutis> I use mac, but OTTD is not available on mac. 08:07:30 <fmauneko> They stopped building Mac nightlies too ? 08:07:35 *** fmauneko is now known as fmauNeko 08:07:35 <Absolutis> so i will copy the document folder, but where to put it. 08:07:45 <duckblaster> got a windows virtual machine? 08:07:58 <PublicServer> *** duckblaster has left the game (leaving) 08:08:01 <Absolutis> Yep, bootcamp. 08:08:09 <duckblaster> use that 08:08:18 <Absolutis> i have that. 08:08:25 <duckblaster> good night 08:08:36 <fmauNeko> With ou without parallels/vmware fusion ? 08:08:39 <fmauNeko> g'nite duckblaster 08:08:41 <planetmaker> Absolutis, you could just as well build your binary yourself 08:08:44 <planetmaker> not very difficult 08:08:59 <fmauNeko> I agree with planetmaker 08:09:03 <Absolutis> I have no coding skills, none at all. 08:09:08 <planetmaker> you don't 08:09:14 <Absolutis> and this way it is easier. 08:09:26 <fmauNeko> You don't need, just grab developer tools from http://developer.apple.com/mac 08:09:26 <planetmaker> if you say so. I do disagree, though ;-) 08:09:26 <Webster> Title: Mac Dev Center - Apple Developer (at developer.apple.com) 08:09:37 <planetmaker> fmauNeko, they come shipped on the DVD. 08:09:43 <planetmaker> They simply need installation 08:10:02 <planetmaker> Not like windoze where you need to install zillion extra tools :-P 08:10:20 <Absolutis> but where to put the document folder? 08:10:22 <planetmaker> It's just not installed by default 08:10:51 <fmauNeko> The version on the dvd is not always up to date :) Btw, i use the iPhone SDK, so it's updated more frequently 08:11:23 <Absolutis> my documents or my documents > my games? 08:11:31 <fmauNeko> just in my documents 08:11:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> depends on windows I think 08:11:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> but I have it documents\OpenTTD 08:11:51 <Absolutis> mine is xp. 08:11:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> win XP 08:11:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> riight 08:12:04 <fmauNeko> Same place under win7 :) 08:12:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok 08:12:49 <fmauNeko> Hmm, when i'll be back home, i'll write a 1-button gui tool to build openttdcoop client from sources 08:12:56 <fmauNeko> On mac 08:13:18 <Absolutis> Well.. that'll be esasier :) 08:13:27 <planetmaker> fmauNeko, well... you could just write a GUI for the autostart script 08:13:38 <planetmaker> the autostart script already does that. But from console 08:13:59 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Yeah, that could work too :) 08:14:01 <planetmaker> But it still, of course, requires the development tools being installed 08:14:06 <fmauNeko> !dl autostart 08:14:06 <PublicServer> fmauNeko: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Autostart 08:14:11 <Absolutis> i'll be ofline for a minute, switching to windows. 08:14:16 *** Absolutis has quit IRC 08:22:22 *** Absolutis has joined #openttdcoop 08:22:32 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001500F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001500F.png 08:22:49 <Absolutis> hi again 08:23:20 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Welcome back :) 08:23:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 08:25:38 <Absolutis> !password 08:25:38 <PublicServer> Absolutis: beamed 08:25:57 <PublicServer> *** Absolutis (FIN) joined the game 08:26:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> welcome among weird people 08:26:22 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> ;) 08:26:46 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> People who see drunk trains falling from the hilla 08:26:48 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> is there something i could do? 08:26:49 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> hills 08:27:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> Bakery needs doing 08:28:46 <PublicServer> <puugi> you could shove a few trains down the hill :P 08:28:46 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> what do you mean by "doing" 08:28:55 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Haha, bakery, the station nobody wanna build :p 08:28:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> building? 08:30:15 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Haha, the Machine Shop Oil Wells are still there 08:30:24 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> Will i fund the bakery? 08:30:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> I will delete them when we need 08:30:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> Absolutis (FIN): yes 08:30:40 <PublicServer> <puugi> place bakery not now 08:31:01 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> We'll place industries when the network is ready 08:31:55 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> if i find signs like "put concrete plat here" can i fund them? 08:32:02 <PublicServer> <puugi> no 08:32:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> no 08:32:11 <PublicServer> <puugi> :D 08:32:26 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> lol 08:32:46 <PublicServer> <puugi> current stage is a bit boring :P 08:32:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> ... 08:33:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> whyy 08:36:41 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop 08:37:34 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0005E8B8: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0005E8B8.png 08:38:18 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> should i put my name on the builders board? 08:38:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> sure 08:39:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> if you built something ... :) 08:40:58 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> umm... can i fund the bakery? 08:41:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> no 08:41:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> as we said 08:41:43 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> is there something else i could do ? 08:41:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> build bakery station 08:42:36 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> am i free to do that? 08:42:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> ... 08:42:58 <PublicServer> <puugi> do you know how to build a station ottd style? :P 08:43:37 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> what do you mean "ottd style" 08:43:56 <PublicServer> *** Yso joined the game 08:44:08 <PublicServer> <puugi> uhm... according to the rules 08:46:16 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> where are the rules? 08:46:23 <fmauNeko> @quickstart 08:46:25 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 08:46:30 <fmauNeko> There ;) 08:46:42 <pugi> just look at the other stations... 08:49:46 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> Im not sure, so i will not do that. 08:50:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> as long as you keep terraforming low, everything else can be reversed back 08:50:08 <pugi> yeah 08:50:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> so if you want, give it a try 08:50:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> best way to learn 08:51:36 <pugi> but it is easier to build stations for primaries 08:51:54 <pugi> like building a station for a coal mine 08:52:02 <pugi> and adding trains to go to power plant 08:52:21 <pugi> but this stuff will only start, when all the stations planned in the network plan are finished 08:52:36 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0006FFBF: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0006FFBF.png 08:52:54 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> About that, how will we connect the primaries ? 08:53:04 <pugi> via slhs... 08:53:10 <pugi> which need to be build 08:53:17 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Yeah, that's what I thought :p 08:53:24 <pugi> V453000, can we start building slhs? :D 08:53:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> sure 08:53:46 <PublicServer> <puugi> but there is not so much space :P 08:53:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> do not forget SL supplies transfers 08:53:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> there is still a lot of space 08:53:55 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> Maybe bakery station should be terminuus? 08:54:57 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> i wont start with that bakery station. 08:58:31 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> anything else i could do? 08:58:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> building a sideline hub probably 08:58:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> or watching pugi doing that :) 08:58:57 <PublicServer> <puugi> mmmmh 08:59:08 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 08:59:23 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> where? 08:59:31 <PublicServer> <puugi> i have not started 09:00:04 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> what SLHs have been built? 09:00:09 <PublicServer> <puugi> none 09:04:41 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> can i help building the sideline hub? 09:06:33 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> puugi? 09:06:37 <PublicServer> <puugi> yes? 09:06:44 <PublicServer> <puugi> i don't think you can help.. 09:06:49 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> can i help building the hub? 09:07:38 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001660B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001660B.png 09:07:40 <PublicServer> *** Absolutis (FIN) has left the game (leaving) 09:08:15 <Absolutis> !password 09:08:15 <PublicServer> Absolutis: tights 09:08:30 <PublicServer> *** Absolutis (FIN) joined the game 09:09:13 <PublicServer> <puugi> mmmh 09:09:15 <PublicServer> <puugi> this is bad :D 09:09:37 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> already building? 09:09:46 <PublicServer> <puugi> oh, yeah 09:09:55 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> where? 09:10:00 <PublicServer> <puugi> near the left corner 09:10:33 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> i seee. 09:10:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> WAHAAAA 09:10:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> trainyard done 09:10:51 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Good :) 09:10:58 <PublicServer> <puugi> yay 09:11:35 <PublicServer> <puugi> what is tl? 09:11:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> cant you see? 09:11:54 <PublicServer> <puugi> tl5 09:12:02 <PublicServer> <puugi> didn't want to look myself :P 09:12:06 <PublicServer> <puugi> @gap 5 09:12:10 <pugi> @gap 5 09:12:10 <Webster> pugi: For Trainlength of 5: <= 11 needs 2, 12 - 18 needs 3, 19 - 25 needs 4. 09:13:30 *** duckblaster has quit IRC 09:15:21 <PublicServer> <puugi> cl? 09:15:22 <PublicServer> <puugi> 3? 09:15:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> ... 09:15:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> 5 09:15:31 <PublicServer> <puugi> not in the plan 09:15:31 <PublicServer> <puugi> okay 09:15:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> CL is clear 09:16:21 *** Lukeus_Maximus has joined #openttdcoop 09:19:00 <PublicServer> *** puugi has left the game (connection lost) 09:19:36 <pugi> uhm 09:19:40 <pugi> i got disconnected :( 09:19:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> we noticed :) 09:20:00 <pugi> !password 09:20:00 <PublicServer> pugi: tights 09:20:12 <pugi> !password 09:20:12 <PublicServer> pugi: tights 09:20:14 <pugi> o0 09:20:28 <pugi> ah 09:20:38 <PublicServer> *** puugi joined the game 09:21:10 <PublicServer> <puugi> why can't we just use L_R? :( 09:21:13 <PublicServer> <puugi> so much easier 09:21:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> should I respond to that? :) 09:21:30 <PublicServer> <puugi> hm 09:21:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> LL_RR is still way easy 09:21:32 <PublicServer> <puugi> not really 09:21:42 <PublicServer> <puugi> but i have forgotten everything 09:22:40 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0005A231: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0005A231.png 09:23:15 *** dihedral has left #openttdcoop 09:24:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> SLH 01 up and ready 09:24:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 09:24:35 <PublicServer> <puugi> <.< 09:24:58 <PublicServer> <puugi> this looks so ugly 09:25:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> sure 09:25:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> everything is ugly :D 09:25:25 <PublicServer> <puugi> i'll stop building mine 09:25:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> why 09:25:32 <PublicServer> <puugi> no fun 09:25:36 <PublicServer> <puugi> can't do it 09:25:46 <Lukeus_Maximus> !password 09:25:46 <PublicServer> Lukeus_Maximus: tonnes 09:25:47 <PublicServer> <puugi> i use too much space everywhere 09:25:59 <PublicServer> *** Lukeus Maximus joined the game 09:26:07 <PublicServer> <puugi> and it surely won't work 09:29:02 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Need reboot brb 09:29:06 <PublicServer> *** fmauNeko has left the game (leaving) 09:29:13 *** fmauNeko has quit IRC 09:31:01 <planetmaker> <PublicServer> <puugi> i use too much space everywhere <-- that's usually not a problem 09:31:48 <pugi> i know... 09:31:58 <Lukeus_Maximus> oh god 09:32:01 <pugi> but i don't like it 09:32:02 <Lukeus_Maximus> the trainyard 09:32:14 <Lukeus_Maximus> is conplexbig 09:32:18 <Lukeus_Maximus> (new word) 09:32:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> it is required 09:32:52 <Lukeus_Maximus> I uderstand how the Trainyard is laid out and what each train does 09:32:58 <Lukeus_Maximus> *understand 09:33:01 <Lukeus_Maximus> so that's ok 09:33:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> first trains \o/ 09:33:45 <PublicServer> <puugi> hm? 09:34:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> I have built first trains 09:34:16 <PublicServer> <puugi> bad 09:36:38 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> SLH2 up. 09:36:40 <Lukeus_Maximus> furniture pickup needs fixing 09:37:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> I changed the sign 09:37:43 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000000: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00000000.png 09:37:43 <Lukeus_Maximus> Absolutis, please label SLH 02 as " SLH 02" with a space at the front so it moves to the top of the sign list 09:37:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> so we can actually find it :) 09:37:49 <Lukeus_Maximus> ok 09:37:51 <Lukeus_Maximus> bril 09:38:06 *** fmauNeko has joined #openttdcoop 09:38:22 <fmauNeko> Back 09:38:34 <fmauNeko> !apssword 09:38:38 <fmauNeko> !password 09:38:38 <PublicServer> fmauNeko: flocks 09:38:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> there you have some notes :) 09:39:16 <PublicServer> *** fmauNeko joined the game 09:40:13 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Sawmill is funded ? 09:40:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 09:40:27 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Oooh, there's already some trains :) 09:40:47 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Oh, separated pickups 09:40:53 <PublicServer> <puugi> absolutis, the curves need to be 5 tiles long 09:41:02 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> I'll build that 09:41:27 <PublicServer> <puugi> otherwise it would be too easy 09:41:33 <PublicServer> <puugi> if you can just use cl1 curves :D 09:41:39 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> afk 30 min 09:42:06 <PublicServer> *** fmauNeko has left the game (connection lost) 09:42:11 <PublicServer> <puugi> ah wait... i did something stupid on my slh 09:42:16 <PublicServer> <puugi> connected both sides 09:42:24 <PublicServer> <puugi> no wonder it looked stupid 09:45:51 <PublicServer> <puugi> have to go :( 09:45:53 <PublicServer> *** puugi has left the game (leaving) 09:46:05 <Lukeus_Maximus> SLH 02 has a big problem 09:46:14 <pugi> yes ^^ 09:46:16 <Lukeus_Maximus> trains come out driving on the left 09:49:32 *** Vitus has joined #openttdcoop 09:52:45 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00056253: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00056253.png 09:55:53 *** Tray has joined #openttdcoop 09:55:59 <Tray> !password 09:55:59 <PublicServer> Tray: craggy 09:56:10 <PublicServer> *** Tray joined the game 09:56:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> lunch 09:56:14 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has joined spectators 09:58:18 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> look at sign list. 09:59:58 <fmauNeko> !password 09:59:58 <PublicServer> fmauNeko: craggy 10:00:16 <PublicServer> *** fmauNeko joined the game 10:00:32 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> check signlist, top sign. 10:01:01 <PublicServer> *** Vitus joined the game 10:01:05 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey 10:01:48 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Hi VItus :) 10:02:24 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Absolutis (FIN): I think it is 10:03:01 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> well, for a rail connection? 10:03:13 <Lukeus_Maximus> so 10:03:30 <Lukeus_Maximus> is there going to be a SLH at my iron mine? 10:03:50 <Lukeus_Maximus> there used to be... 10:05:26 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> Is it okay that a SLH model i would build has no load priority? 10:07:47 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000000: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00000000.png 10:08:36 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> anyone there? 10:08:40 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> yup 10:08:42 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Yes 10:09:14 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> is it okay that a model of an SLH has no load priority? 10:09:56 <PublicServer> <Vitus> What you mean? 10:10:17 <PublicServer> <Vitus> You have to include balancer as in SLH 01 10:10:45 <PublicServer> *** Absolutis (FIN) has left the game (leaving) 10:10:47 *** Absolutis has left #openttdcoop 10:11:22 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 10:11:22 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 10:11:52 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Goddammit 10:12:13 <PublicServer> <Vitus> What? 10:12:41 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> I'm adding the second Pickup at Refinery 10:14:08 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> But I don't see how i'll be able to connect the exit and to do the overflow 10:14:26 <planetmaker> then feel it :-P 10:15:17 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Damn 10:16:18 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Good? :) 10:16:32 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Yup, thanks 10:16:50 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> But There will be a problem with overflow with Chemical station 10:17:53 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> I should've put the Drop in the middle 10:22:49 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000AC75: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000AC75.png 10:23:01 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has joined company #1 10:23:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> b 10:23:07 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey 10:23:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 10:25:31 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Fuel Oil Pickup done, but without overflow 10:29:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> center alive 10:29:33 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Oh my god 10:29:36 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> IT'S ALIVE 10:30:32 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> V, could you try to figure out a way to add an overflow at the refinery ? 10:30:41 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> I need to go cooking for my bro and me 10:32:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> ther y go 10:32:29 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop 10:32:44 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> For the Fuel oil :) 10:32:50 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> The problem is for the Chemical pickup 10:32:55 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 10:35:44 <V453000> !password 10:35:44 <PublicServer> V453000: gagged 10:35:58 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 10:36:53 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> I was saying, the problem is at Refinery CHEMICALS PICKUP 10:36:54 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> :) 10:37:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> hehe 10:37:51 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00069549: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00069549.png 10:40:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> for example like this? :p 10:42:54 <Lukeus_Maximus> SLs are L_R right? 10:43:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> ofc 10:47:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> I wonder if there is worse train set for firs 10:48:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> everything in coal wagons or goods wagons :( 10:49:30 <PublicServer> *** Vitus has left the game (connection lost) 10:50:16 <PublicServer> *** fmauNeko has left the game (connection lost) 10:52:44 *** Vitus_ has joined #openttdcoop 10:52:53 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002DE16: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002DE16.png 10:53:24 *** Vitus is now known as Guest2800 10:53:25 *** Vitus_ is now known as Vitus 10:53:33 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 10:53:34 <Vitus> Damn provider 10:53:40 <V453000> :) 10:53:40 <Vitus> !password 10:53:40 <PublicServer> Vitus: torrid 10:53:49 <V453000> im killing my provider soon too 10:56:31 <PublicServer> *** Vitus joined the game 10:57:21 *** Guest2800 has quit IRC 10:58:01 *** fmauNeko has quit IRC 11:00:27 *** fmauneko has joined #openttdcoop 11:00:45 <fmauneko> !password 11:00:45 <PublicServer> fmauneko: torrid 11:00:55 <fmauneko> Yeah, it's torrid, i know 11:00:56 <PublicServer> *** fmauNeko joined the game 11:00:58 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey 11:01:14 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 11:02:21 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 11:02:21 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 11:04:05 <Tray> !gap 2 11:04:06 <PublicServer> Tray: !gap <trainlength> <gap>: Returns amount of tunnels/bridges needed. Formula: (<gap>+<trainlength>-2)/(<trainlength>+2) 11:04:20 <Tray> !gap 5 2 11:04:20 <PublicServer> Tray: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 5 and gap 2. 11:04:35 <Tray> !gap 5 8 11:04:35 <PublicServer> Tray: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 5 and gap 8. 11:04:42 <Tray> !gap 5 10 11:04:42 <PublicServer> Tray: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 5 and gap 10. 11:05:20 <fmauneko> Tray: use @gap :) 11:05:24 <fmauneko> @gap 5 11:05:24 <Webster> fmauneko: For Trainlength of 5: <= 11 needs 2, 12 - 18 needs 3, 19 - 25 needs 4. 11:05:30 *** fmauneko is now known as fmauNeko 11:05:56 <Tray> Ahr. I remember. 11:05:59 <Tray> Thanks. 11:06:02 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Np 11:06:47 <Tray> Is it right, that each SL has a TL 2 Subnetwork for supplies? 11:07:29 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Doesn't have to be TL2, at least according to plan. But yes, the subnetwork should be there 11:07:42 <Tray> Okay. 11:07:44 <V453000> anyhow = up to you 11:07:51 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Why are passengers waiting at GOODS DROP ? 11:07:53 <V453000> but trains > RVs 11:07:55 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002EC49: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002EC49.png 11:08:17 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Btw, Thanks V453000 for your cute overflow :) 11:08:22 <V453000> yw 11:09:06 <Yso> the passangers are my fault i think 11:09:37 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Oh, I haven't seen the Jap Shopping Complex platform :p 11:09:39 <Yso> i made the eyecandy, but there is no building around to supply passanders 11:09:45 <V453000> screw them 11:09:55 <V453000> recreating the station would mean re-ordering some goods trains 11:10:30 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Or we can let them decay there 11:10:34 <PublicServer> <Yso> well, i could create more eyecandy and make a connection to the town so ppl accually can go shopping ^ 11:10:41 <V453000> no 11:10:53 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> That's funny, the buldings have tracks when transparencing 11:12:56 <Lukeus_Maximus> Tray 11:13:07 <Lukeus_Maximus> you used a \ instead of a / 11:13:14 <Lukeus_Maximus> at SLH 04 11:13:22 <PublicServer> <Tray> Oh. 11:13:35 <Lukeus_Maximus> good good 11:13:38 <VVG> Hello 11:14:01 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey 11:17:37 <VVG> What's the lowest capacity wagons for supplies? 11:22:57 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00019530: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00019530.png 11:32:20 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 11:35:34 *** Tray has quit IRC 11:35:34 <PublicServer> *** Tray has left the game (connection lost) 11:37:05 <PublicServer> *** Yso has left the game (leaving) 11:37:13 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 11:37:59 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001FB69: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001FB69.png 11:46:44 <Lukeus_Maximus> ok 11:46:52 <Lukeus_Maximus> I've made an iron mine of SLH 02 11:46:56 <Lukeus_Maximus> is it ok? 11:47:19 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> I think so 11:48:00 <Lukeus_Maximus> then if we have a steel mill of sorts, I'll start the trains 11:48:31 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> We have :) 11:48:37 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Near MSH 4-1 11:49:43 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> But the metal foundry doesn't seems ready for the job 11:49:55 <Lukeus_Maximus> we have a steel mill... 11:49:57 <Lukeus_Maximus> so 11:50:05 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> :) 11:50:14 <Lukeus_Maximus> I take it I clone (not ctrl-clone) a train out of the trainyard 11:53:01 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0005F4B6: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0005F4B6.png 11:55:41 *** Absolutis has joined #openttdcoop 11:55:51 <Absolutis> !password 11:55:51 <PublicServer> Absolutis: walker 11:56:20 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 11:56:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> hy 11:56:34 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Huy 11:57:05 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 11:57:38 <PublicServer> *** Absolutis (FIN) joined the game 11:58:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> lets build MOAR 11:58:49 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> MOAR 11:59:02 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> MOAR! 11:59:05 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 11:59:06 <PublicServer> <Vitus> less 11:59:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi Spikey 12:02:54 <PublicServer> *** Spike has joined company #1 12:04:34 <PublicServer> <Spike> V453000: you know who made !this 12:04:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> I know 12:04:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh 12:04:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> no 12:05:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> no idea 12:05:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> whgy 12:05:07 <PublicServer> <Spike> i hope you also see why i signed it :) 12:05:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> ? 12:05:29 <PublicServer> <Spike> the overflow? 12:05:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh 12:05:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> hehe 12:05:40 <PublicServer> <Spike> look at it... 12:05:49 <PublicServer> <Spike> not even got a prio.. :) 12:06:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> i see 12:07:06 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> I assume we can sell all those tiles 12:07:16 <KyleS> !password 12:07:16 <PublicServer> KyleS: walker 12:07:30 <PublicServer> *** KyleS joined the game 12:08:03 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00023B48: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00023B48.png 12:09:10 <PublicServer> <Spike> Lukeus Maximus: you fixed the hubs nicely 12:14:45 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 12:14:49 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Hmm, the two Wood trains are making negative profit 12:15:27 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Look at the forest 12:15:32 <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game 12:15:35 <PublicServer> <Vitus> 33 tons of wood, it needs eng. supplies 12:15:54 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Hmmm 12:18:14 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Oh, Mazur 12:18:15 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey 12:18:20 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hi. 12:18:30 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Hi Mazur :) 12:18:51 <VVG> Are you starting actual trains already? 12:18:58 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Yes 12:19:01 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> yeah 12:19:23 <PublicServer> <Mazur> DId I hear an actual train moving? 12:19:45 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> probably. 12:19:58 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> There are actual trains now :) 12:20:22 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Absolutions, when you connect industry, you also have to make sure there's train with supplies from transfer coming 12:20:31 <PublicServer> <Vitus> *Absolutis 12:20:33 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Sorry :P 12:22:12 <PublicServer> <Vitus> V., just a quick question: how should I modify orders of ES trains when I want to add another transfer? 12:22:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> well 12:22:22 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Vitus, why nare your furniture pickup platforms 4 long? Is that some nefarious plan of yours? 12:22:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> just add another Load and then add the transfer? 12:22:43 <PublicServer> <Vitus> OK 12:23:06 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00019D01: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00019D01.png 12:23:37 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Mazur: That's not my work 12:23:44 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Someone was messing with roads again 12:24:20 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Oh, I thhought it was. Was it VVG, then? 12:24:35 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Too many Vs. 12:24:51 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Anyways, the roads should be other way around 12:25:03 <PublicServer> <Vitus> i.e. none at beginning 12:27:27 <pugi> hi, i am back again :) 12:29:28 <pugi> !password 12:29:28 <PublicServer> pugi: dazing 12:29:44 <PublicServer> *** puugi joined the game 12:29:51 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Rehi, Pug. 12:30:11 <PublicServer> *** Yso joined the game 12:31:14 <VVG> FF pickup 1 tile short becuase i forgot to add back 1 tile i removed for testing purposes. 12:32:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> interesting testing 12:33:28 <PublicServer> <Vitus> What's the penalty for railroad crossing? 12:33:54 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> when you make ES trains go to an another transferstation, do you add orders to an existing train or make new ones. 12:34:04 <VVG> I just wanted to check if one more additional tile for braking space helps 12:34:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> see trainyard 12:34:29 <PublicServer> <Vitus> To answer my own question: 300 12:34:51 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> so i'll just add orders to an existing one? 12:35:02 <VVG> i wish i could answer all my questions too 12:35:09 <VVG> very handy 12:35:25 <PublicServer> *** Lukeus Maximus has joined spectators 12:36:53 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Well, this one wasn't that hard, console is your friend here :) 12:37:39 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Shit 12:37:49 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> The only forest we had just close 12:37:57 <PublicServer> <KyleS> there's one more 12:37:58 <PublicServer> <Vitus> lol 12:38:08 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003DEF1: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003DEF1.png 12:38:08 <PublicServer> <KyleS> :P 12:38:21 <PublicServer> <Vitus> You can try to prospect some 12:38:31 <V453000> !rcon set raw_industry_construction 12:38:31 <PublicServer> V453000: Current value for 'raw_industry_construction' is: '2' (min: 0, max: 2) 12:38:36 <V453000> !rcon set raw_industry_construction 17 12:38:36 <PublicServer> V453000: [All] KyleS: we should probably wait till the main industries have been built 12:38:37 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop 12:38:37 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Before, I'll drop the station 12:38:37 <V453000> 1 12:38:41 <V453000> !rcon set raw_industry_construction 1 12:38:56 <V453000> !rcon set raw_industry_construction 2 12:38:59 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Or that 12:39:03 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Haha :) 12:41:41 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Don't forget to group trains 12:41:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> rather copy them from TY 12:41:54 <PublicServer> <Vitus> SL 02 transfer trains are not 12:42:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh these 12:42:06 <PublicServer> <KyleS> i've been seeing lots of evil X's 12:42:17 <PublicServer> <KyleS> in various joins 12:42:30 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Like? 12:42:42 <PublicServer> <KyleS> MSH 4-2 12:42:48 <PublicServer> <KyleS> was the last one i saw 12:43:08 <PublicServer> <KyleS> they can be fixed...just marked it so maybe the hub maker could see 12:43:29 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Oh yes, this one should be fixed 12:43:34 <PublicServer> <Vitus> The bridges are strange anyways 12:44:40 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Not an issue, surely, only 1 train from 1 bridge at the time, no? 12:45:13 <PublicServer> <Vitus> But what's the point of having double bridges when one of them isn't signalled? 12:45:24 <PublicServer> <KyleS> the line could certainly be desynced 12:45:25 <PublicServer> <Mazur> That _is_ an issue. 12:45:44 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Who wrote the "1CL :S" at refinery? 12:45:50 <PublicServer> <KyleS> me 12:45:58 <PublicServer> <KyleS> i know it's an overflow 12:46:01 <PublicServer> <Vitus> You know the depot has limited speed anyways, right 12:46:05 <PublicServer> <KyleS> yep 12:46:18 <PublicServer> <Vitus> And 1 CL slows down to 81 12:46:20 <PublicServer> <KyleS> doesn't rly matter tho 12:46:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> now I can call you an idiot :) 12:46:25 <PublicServer> <Vitus> While depot slows down to 61 12:46:28 <PublicServer> <KyleS> fuck you 12:46:33 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Haha :p 12:46:57 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Not me, for once. Yay! 12:47:37 <V453000> !rcon set raw_industry_construction 1 12:47:37 <PublicServer> V453000: CmdRemoveSingleSignal Vitus date:2396-08-24 tile:00063C2E p1:00000001 p2:00000000 text: price:7 12:47:37 <PublicServer> V453000: CmdRemoveSingleSignal Vitus date:2396-08-24 tile:00063C2F p1:00000001 p2:00000000 text: price:7 12:47:48 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Must keep myself grounded, I mean, V453000 even complimented me yesterday. 12:48:01 <V453000> !rcon set raw_industry_construction 2 12:48:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> must have been mistake 12:48:21 <PublicServer> <Vitus> :D 12:48:23 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Evul 12:48:27 <PublicServer> <Mazur> That's what _I_ thought. 12:48:47 <PublicServer> <Mazur> You .liked one of my HUBS. 12:49:27 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> are you allowed to prospect industries? 12:50:05 <Yso> otherwise we would have nothing to connect 12:50:32 <PublicServer> *** Lukeus Maximus has joined company #1 12:50:42 <PublicServer> <KyleS> don't prospect too many tho since we still need some of the secondary industries :o 12:52:45 <Lukeus_Maximus> may I add SL 02 ES Transfer to the shared orders of the ES trains? 12:53:10 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000000: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00000000.png 12:53:26 <PublicServer> *** Yso has joined spectators 12:53:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> guess if you can 12:54:40 <Lukeus_Maximus> ty 12:58:49 <VVG> !password 12:58:49 <PublicServer> VVG: sexing 12:59:04 <V453000> which secondaries are missing KyleS btw? 12:59:06 <fmauNeko> saucy password 12:59:09 <V453000> indeed 12:59:29 <PublicServer> <KyleS> /looking again 12:59:35 <PublicServer> *** VVG joined the game 12:59:44 <V453000> well I have built the trainyard and none was missing 12:59:45 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> should a machine shop be build near the big station? 12:59:48 <V453000> only a few pickups 13:00:15 <PublicServer> <KyleS> the Aluminium stations 13:00:18 <PublicServer> <Mazur> And the actual industries. 13:00:47 <PublicServer> <Mazur> i didn't build an actual Paper Mill at the station, either, 13:00:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> well 13:00:53 <PublicServer> <KyleS> the Dairy stations 13:00:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> from what I see aluminium stations are there 13:01:03 <PublicServer> <KyleS> i mean the industries 13:01:12 <PublicServer> <KyleS> the stations are there, yes, but not the industry 13:01:18 <PublicServer> <KyleS> same with dairy 13:01:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> well how much effort is that 13:01:30 <PublicServer> <VVG> aren't those 2tl trains have way too big capacity ? 13:01:31 <PublicServer> <KyleS> the fuck? 13:01:33 <PublicServer> <KyleS> you asked me 13:01:37 <PublicServer> <KyleS> and i fucking told you 13:01:40 <PublicServer> <KyleS> quit being an ass 13:01:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> you are an idiot 13:02:11 <Lukeus_Maximus> no need for behavior like that! 13:02:22 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Can you all feel the love? Isn't it heartwarming? 13:02:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> if he enjoys it ... I dont care 13:02:36 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> It totally is 13:03:07 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> should industries be placed yet? 13:03:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> at least the ones where we already transport primaries 13:03:52 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Yeah, refinery in da place :) 13:04:08 <PublicServer> <puugi> :D 13:04:31 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> can i build them? 13:05:11 <PublicServer> <KyleS> i'm an idiot, and you are an ass 13:05:15 <PublicServer> <KyleS> that's fine by me :) 13:05:16 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> V453K? 13:05:32 <PublicServer> *** puugi has left the game (leaving) 13:05:34 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Problem at MSH 3-2 13:05:39 <V453000> !rcon kick 527 13:05:39 <PublicServer> V453000: [All] fmauNeko: With trains 100 and 101 13:05:39 <PublicServer> V453000: *** KyleS has left the game (kicked by server) 13:05:39 <PublicServer> V453000: *** KyleS has left the game (connection lost) 13:05:53 <V453000> go calm down 13:05:54 <V453000> then return 13:06:13 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> can i build the industries? 13:06:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> sure 13:06:17 <KyleS> i'll calm down when you stop calling me an idiot for bringing vairous things up 13:06:34 <PublicServer> *** Vitus has left the game (leaving) 13:06:36 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> V, check train 100 :) 13:06:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> cool 13:06:55 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> :) 13:06:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> thx 13:08:12 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00024B17: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00024B17.png 13:08:28 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Holy crap, the Pickups were out of range 13:10:04 *** KyleS has left #openttdcoop 13:12:30 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Whoever built the supplies trucks at SL06, you forgot to refit them 13:12:33 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> I'll take it 13:12:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> my bad 13:12:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> thx 13:14:56 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Done 13:15:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 13:17:36 <PublicServer> *** Yso has joined company #1 13:19:09 <PublicServer> <VVG> i've added second pick to metal foundry, is it ok, anyone fancy checking? 13:20:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> seems fine but the exit 13:20:22 <PublicServer> <VVG> oh 13:20:25 <PublicServer> <VVG> forgot to signal it 13:22:14 <PublicServer> <VVG> Is it really good idea to use 120t capacity trains for end delivery of supplies? 13:22:30 <PublicServer> <VVG> Industry don't really care how much they get, only how often. 13:23:14 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000000: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00000000.png 13:29:36 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Wtf ? 13:29:41 <Yso> n1 13:29:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> wha? 13:30:04 <PublicServer> <Mazur> ¿Que? 13:30:12 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Ah, I was ready to build them :p 13:30:13 <PublicServer> <VVG> cho? :) 13:30:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> someone crashed trains in my station :( 13:31:01 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Hmm, why does Train 130 passed the Entry signal ? 13:31:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> umm 13:31:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> because there was an exit free? 13:31:26 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> afk 13:31:29 <PublicServer> <VVG> because it was green or it has been set to ignore signals :) 13:32:05 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> It shouldn't have been red, a train was on the platform 13:32:10 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> And the crash on the other 13:32:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> and there are signals 13:32:23 <PublicServer> <VVG> what station? 13:32:26 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> It should* 13:32:31 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Angelberg east 13:33:53 <PublicServer> <VVG> i don't see problems there 13:34:08 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Merry Christmas and Happy new year !!! Welcome in 25th century ;) 13:34:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> lol 13:36:09 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Chemical and Fuel deliveries incoming 13:37:32 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> The Bakery is still not built ! 13:37:39 <VVG> V? 13:37:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> hm? 13:38:02 <VVG> Why use such big trains for end dilvery of supplies? 13:38:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> why not 13:38:16 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00077224: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00077224.png 13:38:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> use smaller I dont care 13:38:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> plan says anyhow 13:38:38 <VVG> i imagine you will have much harder time growning productin this way 13:39:01 <VVG> i'd use RVs, there is XPR ultima, 125 kmh 14t capacity 13:43:32 <Lukeus_Maximus> can I put a brewery at the brewery? 13:43:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> I just did 13:43:42 <Lukeus_Maximus> we kinda need one 13:43:43 <Lukeus_Maximus> ok 13:44:21 <Lukeus_Maximus> really? 13:44:26 <Lukeus_Maximus> I don't see one 13:44:34 <Lukeus_Maximus> and there's fruit and veg rotting 13:44:52 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Look !here 13:44:56 <Lukeus_Maximus> ok 13:45:10 <Lukeus_Maximus> seen it, disguised amongst the town buildings 13:45:24 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> back 13:45:26 <Lukeus_Maximus> unfortunately there is still a load of rotting fruit and veg 13:46:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> is it a big problem? :) 13:47:03 <Lukeus_Maximus> no, just sayin' 13:47:24 <PublicServer> <VVG> are those passenger aircraft still needed? 13:48:02 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> if they are, can i set autoreplace? 13:48:26 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Why autoreplace ? 13:48:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> no need imo 13:48:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> just let them run happily 13:48:44 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> less running cost? 13:48:53 <PublicServer> <VVG> Will that overflow at refinary work withouth pf trap? 13:51:18 <PublicServer> *** Lukeus Maximus has joined spectators 13:51:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> sure 13:51:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> there is 2way eol 13:53:18 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000000: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00000000.png 13:55:04 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Oil wells from center are finally down 13:55:46 <PublicServer> <Mazur> V: He touched your station! 13:56:01 <PublicServer> <Mazur> ;-) 13:56:10 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> I told before 13:56:13 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> :p 13:57:09 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Look how happy Train 122 is 13:59:31 <PublicServer> <VVG> V, you work around brewery just doesn't like look like rail-network :) 13:59:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> awsom 13:59:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> wha? 13:59:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> what is with brewery :) 14:00:30 <PublicServer> <VVG> nothing, it just not a rail network, from the looks of it :) 14:00:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> ooh 14:00:43 <PublicServer> <VVG> from bird-eye view 14:00:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> well thats fine :) 14:00:49 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> It's art 14:00:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> birds want to shit on rails, this way they dont do it 14:01:19 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> lol 14:02:44 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> by the way, we transport cargo to make ES/FS so we could make more cargo for more ES/FS... A self-feeding loop. 14:03:02 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Should I fund the Meat Packer ? 14:03:03 <PublicServer> <Mazur> You'd think they'd throw away those vuvuzelas now. 14:05:10 <PublicServer> <VVG> Is it ok to put higher prio to pickup trains at the cost of drop trains at secondaries' stations? 14:05:18 *** Ramsus08191 has joined #openttdcoop 14:06:00 <Ramsus08191> !password 14:06:00 <PublicServer> Ramsus08191: cheery 14:06:18 <PublicServer> *** Ramsus08191 joined the game 14:06:19 *** murr5y has joined #openttdcoop 14:06:34 <PublicServer> *** VVG has left the game (leaving) 14:06:35 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hi, Ramsus08191. 14:06:40 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> Hey ho 14:06:46 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop 14:06:47 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Who just failed ? 14:06:49 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Was it you that build Cement Stations? 14:06:54 <Ramsus08191> yes 14:07:01 <Ramsus08191> any problem there? 14:07:15 <PublicServer> <Mazur> You forgot to sign your name. 14:07:22 <PublicServer> <Mazur> That's all. 14:07:30 <Ramsus08191> ah yea, forgot that also 14:07:55 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Did it fvor you. 14:08:12 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> thanks :) 14:08:20 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00025712: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00025712.png 14:08:35 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Np. I also built you a pick-up overflow. 14:08:57 *** murr6y has joined #openttdcoop 14:08:58 *** murr5y has quit IRC 14:10:16 *** murr4y has quit IRC 14:10:56 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 14:11:18 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hi, Spike. 14:11:43 <PublicServer> <Spike> Yso: nicely done that eyecandy 14:11:52 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Where ? 14:11:57 <PublicServer> <Spike> goods drop 14:12:18 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Ooh, the Japanese Shopping Complex ? :p 14:12:24 <PublicServer> <Mazur> The Japanese Shopping Complex. 14:12:31 <Yso> thanks :) 14:13:59 *** thgergo has joined #openttdcoop 14:14:51 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Someone adventerous should build the Bakery stations. 14:15:02 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Not me 14:15:27 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Nor I, too bad a hangover. %:-) 14:16:19 *** Barbaar has joined #openttdcoop 14:21:25 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Luke: Your SLH still needs prios on the joins. 14:23:23 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00060A8E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00060A8E.png 14:24:03 <PublicServer> *** Barbaar joined the game 14:28:06 <PublicServer> *** Barbaar has left the game (leaving) 14:29:13 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Absolutis, you made your signals wrong when building Glemspang North, it's fixed ;) 14:31:28 *** Yso has quit IRC 14:31:41 *** Yso has joined #openttdcoop 14:31:44 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (connection lost) 14:36:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> and one less flaw for the center pickups! :) 14:37:23 <PublicServer> <Yso> error @ trainyard: gravel train not refit, check your trains 14:38:25 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0005CA4A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0005CA4A.png 14:38:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> especially WTF are gravel trains doing at wood pickup 14:39:30 *** Mazur has quit IRC 14:39:39 <Yso> 163? that's mine :( it got lost when i tried to get it to a depot for refit 14:39:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> ooh 14:39:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> lol 14:44:18 *** Mazur has joined #openttdcoop 14:44:54 <Mazur> Just as well. 14:50:59 <PublicServer> <Yso> there goes an already connected farm 14:51:12 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> A signal was missing at MSH03a, issue fixed 14:51:28 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> I added a sign 14:53:27 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00057841: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00057841.png 14:55:56 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> There's a train doing an infinite loop in the Brewery overflow 14:58:13 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> is train 11 stopped intentionally? 14:58:40 <PublicServer> *** Lukeus Maximus has joined company #1 14:58:47 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> I don't think so 14:58:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> I just started it 14:59:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> but of course, error :) 14:59:52 <Absolutis> !help 14:59:52 <PublicServer> Absolutis: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands 15:00:23 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> What the purpose of this line btw ? 15:00:40 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Oh, it's the overflow 15:01:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 15:02:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> there was an issue because two trains got released from overflow instead of one 15:02:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> (from each side) 15:02:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> and because it is mirrored, both have the same long path to every station 15:03:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> so one of those two stuck where it shouldnt 15:03:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> nothing that would break how it works, but ... 15:03:52 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 15:06:36 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> 2 trains are still released :p 15:06:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> but they dont stuc 15:06:52 <VVG> !password 15:06:52 <PublicServer> VVG: harass 15:06:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> k 15:07:03 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> :) 15:07:08 <Lukeus_Maximus> these passwords just get dodgier and dodgier 15:07:11 <PublicServer> *** VVG joined the game 15:08:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> needs longer gap :) 15:08:29 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0006931D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0006931D.png 15:09:30 <PublicServer> <VVG> Is it ok to remove temp stations, made for trainyard? 15:09:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> remove or move? 15:09:54 *** murr6y has quit IRC 15:09:58 <PublicServer> <VVG> i built actual station, but left the temp one 15:10:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> why would you leave the temp one then :) 15:10:25 <PublicServer> <VVG> it's not mine :) 15:10:44 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> in TY,wood S, shouldn't PAPER MILL GOODS PICKUP be PAPER MILL DROP? 15:11:13 <PublicServer> <VVG> why? 15:11:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> o_O 15:11:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> sure it should 15:13:49 <PublicServer> <VVG> i'm removing the temp one then 15:14:01 <PublicServer> <VVG> it is making the whole thing ugly :p 15:14:22 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> hmmm rvs in a bridge have the same comportment then trains?, I mean, only one rv per bridge? 15:14:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> no 15:14:35 <Chris_Booth> !password 15:14:35 <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: faiths 15:15:46 <Lukeus_Maximus> one slow client 15:16:05 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 15:16:08 <PublicServer> <VVG> metalfounry drop has aluminium waiting 15:16:22 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> then transport it maybe? 15:16:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> seems like foundry dead 15:16:51 <PublicServer> <VVG> i'm funding new metalfoundry then 15:17:33 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> hmm cement plant have goods to be transported, I am not getting the whole system right. Ok, for the goods from cement I just clone the train from trainyard and modify the pickup plant? 15:18:04 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> clone but not CTRL + click 15:18:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> just clone the cement goods train 15:18:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> I have prepared all secondary trains already 15:18:37 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> alright 15:18:39 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i see then yes clone and copy orders 15:18:44 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> train 63 15:19:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> no need to share orders 15:19:32 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yes there is its good practice 15:19:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> practice for what 15:19:57 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> why, if there were shared order trains per msh it would be easier to modify in case of problems 15:20:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> it is the same 15:20:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> just the train yard train is separated from orders 15:20:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> no matter really 15:23:31 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00041CE3: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00041CE3.png 15:25:29 <PublicServer> *** Benom joined the game 15:26:58 *** Vitus has quit IRC 15:27:14 *** Vitus has joined #openttdcoop 15:28:09 <Vitus> !password 15:28:09 <PublicServer> Vitus: planar 15:28:44 <PublicServer> *** Vitus joined the game 15:28:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi :) 15:28:54 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> hello 15:28:55 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey 15:28:59 <PublicServer> <VVG> hi 15:32:40 <PublicServer> <VVG> what are those stuck trains at central overflow? 15:32:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> wait 15:33:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> I am making a few adjustments 15:33:29 <PublicServer> <VVG> i'm not doing anything! 15:33:36 <PublicServer> <VVG> just saw a train can't get into depot 15:33:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes, because signals got different by 1 tile :) 15:34:09 <PublicServer> <Vitus> What's up with SL03 transfer? It's completly messed up 15:34:28 <PublicServer> <Vitus> One side is supposed to be for farm supplies and the second one for engi sup. 15:37:13 <PublicServer> <VVG> Is it ok to buuild SLH between MSH 01 E and central station? 15:37:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> no 15:37:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> it is a MSH :) 15:37:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> but well 15:37:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> hm 15:37:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> rather not 15:37:53 <PublicServer> <VVG> all other MLs close by have 3 lines :) 15:38:08 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> hey, shouldn't that be LLL_RRR? 15:38:28 <PublicServer> <VVG> what? 15:38:30 <PublicServer> *** Benom has left the game (connection lost) 15:38:33 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003E914: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003E914.png 15:40:43 <PublicServer> <VVG> think i found a suitable place for slh 15:40:57 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> where? 15:41:00 <PublicServer> <VVG> How do i decide what number this SLH is? 15:41:11 <PublicServer> <VVG> between MSH 4-3 and BBh 12 15:41:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> usuually the next after the last one huilt 15:41:53 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i am going to SLH between BBH 08 and BBH 02 15:43:23 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> if i am rusty its not my fault 15:44:07 *** murr6y has joined #openttdcoop 15:44:37 <PublicServer> <VVG> What does multiple drop sutiant refers to? 15:45:09 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Glassworks died, funded new one 15:45:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> for example when aluminium goes to machine shop and metal foundry 15:45:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> not your concern, trainyard is done 15:45:42 <PublicServer> <VVG> got it 15:45:43 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (leaving) 15:46:11 <PublicServer> <VVG> who places +shaped sign and what does itmean? 15:46:28 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> i mean a four way SLH. 15:46:51 <PublicServer> <VVG> sure it wil have exits both ways 15:47:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> just make 2 3ways 15:47:41 <PublicServer> <VVG> er, you mean to both sides of ml? 15:47:45 *** duckblaster has joined #openttdcoop 15:47:56 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> yep. 15:47:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> build two separate SLHs, each facing one side 15:48:22 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> is there enough space? 15:48:33 <PublicServer> <VVG> yeah 15:48:39 <V453000> !rcon set raw_industry_construction 1 15:48:49 <PublicServer> <VVG> i'm up only for one SLH though :) 15:48:49 <V453000> !rcon set raw_industry_construction 2 15:49:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> you can make the other SLH at the next hole between MSHs :) 15:49:34 <PublicServer> <VVG> that's thinking too far into future! 15:50:34 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Damn, who bribes ? 15:51:01 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> -82M€ this year 15:51:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> I just prospected some industrie 15:51:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> s 15:51:19 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Huh, okay :p 15:51:44 <Lukeus_Maximus> that explains why an oil well just popped up seemingly from nowhere 15:53:16 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> The center Fertiliser plant died too 15:53:20 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 15:53:35 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003F90D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003F90D.png 15:53:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> pointed out just in time :D 15:54:38 <Razaekel> you guys are still building the network? 15:54:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> we have trains now 15:55:12 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> But we still don't have a bakery 15:55:13 <Razaekel> !dl win64 15:55:14 <PublicServer> Razaekel: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r20080/openttd-trunk-r20080-windows-win64.zip 15:55:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> omfg 15:56:06 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> What ? Are there some trains heading for it ? :p 15:56:34 <Razaekel> !password 15:56:34 <PublicServer> Razaekel: hugger 15:56:46 <PublicServer> *** Razaekel joined the game 15:56:53 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> wow 15:56:57 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> still this one 16:00:25 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> V5, that is the craziest station i have seen from you so far 16:00:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 16:00:39 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> there is something wrong with you 16:00:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> no, thats the point 16:00:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> everything is right 16:01:02 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> yea 16:01:12 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> but yer like the only person who could do something like that 16:01:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> maybe 16:01:38 <PublicServer> <Vitus> No, I think he's the only person with such ideas 16:02:58 <duckblaster> !password 16:02:58 <PublicServer> duckblaster: hugger 16:03:53 <PublicServer> *** duckblaster joined the game 16:04:11 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> what the hell? 16:04:21 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> who build malsund wood #1? 16:06:50 <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game 16:06:56 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey M. 16:07:03 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Vitus. 16:07:25 <PublicServer> <Mazur> I marked a superflous pair of bridges in one of you hubs. 16:07:34 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Which one? 16:08:05 <PublicServer> <Mazur> BBH03 16:08:20 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Oh, of course... I used to have 3rd line there 16:08:26 <PublicServer> <Mazur> South to east. 16:08:28 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Removed line and forgot to remove bridges :D 16:08:32 <PublicServer> <Mazur> :-) 16:08:37 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000000: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00000000.png 16:09:16 <PublicServer> * Razaekel facepalms 16:09:26 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> what ? :p 16:09:37 <Razaekel> this is just ridiculous 16:09:54 <PublicServer> <Vitus> But what? 16:09:59 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> it offends me 16:10:15 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Plz tell us 16:10:30 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> corners too tight, 16:10:36 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> and i cant believe im saying this 16:10:45 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> but in some instances doubled bridges arent necessary 16:15:17 <PublicServer> *** Sepp joined the game 16:17:13 <PublicServer> *** Sepp has left the game (leaving) 16:18:35 <PublicServer> *** Owen joined the game 16:18:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi :) 16:18:42 <PublicServer> <Owen> hi 16:18:43 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Owens. 16:18:51 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey 16:19:00 <PublicServer> <Owen> Gravel pit? FIRS? 16:19:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> yarr 16:20:15 <PublicServer> * Owen thinks the signals at the goods pickup and drop aren't going to work under load 16:20:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> there are about 1000 goods pickups :) 16:20:47 <PublicServer> <Owen> SOrry 16:20:48 <PublicServer> <Owen> The goods drop :p 16:20:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> :p 16:21:25 <PublicServer> <Owen> OMG TRAINYARD 16:21:32 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> :) 16:21:52 <Lukeus_Maximus> the trainyar dis a little lulzy 16:22:04 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> lul 16:22:13 *** Absolutis has quit IRC 16:23:07 <PublicServer> <Owen> Crazy plan 16:23:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> no 16:23:18 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Crazy builders. 16:23:39 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00066CDB: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00066CDB.png 16:24:04 <PublicServer> <Mazur> avdg even build a power station pickup at one time. 16:24:17 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> i saw that comment 16:25:10 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Too bad there's no "unload % of cargo" order, that'd be useful here 16:27:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> Owen: you might want to see the center of the map :p 16:27:45 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Or not. 16:27:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> :-D Or not. 16:27:56 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Depending how precious your brain is to you. 16:27:57 <PublicServer> <Owen> V453000: Aah, just what I'd expect from you 16:28:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 16:28:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> the first presignal 2way terminus \o/ 16:29:04 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Noes 16:29:04 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Where? 16:29:11 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> derp 16:29:11 <PublicServer> <Vitus> We had one in PSG 185 I think 16:29:28 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Transfer 1, but I'm not sure 16:29:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> working one? :) 16:29:32 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Yes 16:29:39 <V453000> @psgsave 185 16:29:39 <Webster> PSG 185 Archive entry; http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/PublicServer:Archive_-_Games_181_-_190#gameid_185 16:31:12 <Vitus> Damn 16:31:25 <Vitus> They rebuilt it at last :/ 16:31:30 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> what? 16:31:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> all are PBS :) 16:31:56 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> what are? 16:32:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> 2way terminus transfer stations in psg 185 16:32:25 <Vitus> Transfer 1 was presignal one at some point 16:32:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> did it work? 16:32:45 <Vitus> Yes 16:33:02 <Vitus> It was basically yours without the pbs fail-safe 16:33:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 16:38:41 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00074010: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00074010.png 16:39:26 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> look at lower strömstad. 16:39:29 <Lukeus_Maximus> Can I FIRMLY recommend that we do NOT us FIRS next game? 16:39:39 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop 16:39:47 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> you can 16:39:49 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Next two maps do have FIRST, right? 16:39:56 <PublicServer> <Vitus> *FIRS 16:39:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> well 16:40:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> unluckily, the next does 16:40:12 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> please let it be desert 16:40:15 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> nice flat desert 16:40:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> but we will play another map 16:40:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> Razaekel: there is desert 16:40:27 * Lukeus_Maximus stokes a kipper, slaps Vitus with it and eats him for breakfast 16:40:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> but mountainous :D 16:40:30 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> So far I am enjoying FIRS game, being this the first one I am playing 16:40:31 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> dammit 16:40:42 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Damn 16:40:45 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> What gametype? 16:40:46 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> FIRS on mountains is insanity 16:40:48 <Chris_Booth> ECS next game :P 16:40:59 <Lukeus_Maximus> ECS being what? 16:41:05 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Another industry set 16:41:09 <Chris_Booth> like firs but rubish 16:41:10 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> ECS vectors 16:41:10 * Lukeus_Maximus googles it 16:41:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> Extremely Complete Shit 16:41:13 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> all of them? 16:41:28 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> all of the vectors? 16:41:36 <Chris_Booth> Razaekel: yes no point in only having a few you get missing and useless cargos 16:41:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> well iirc if you dont have all, some cargoes are missing 16:41:43 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> it could be chaos :D 16:41:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> ye 16:41:43 <PublicServer> <Vitus> That's why I love classic industries after all :D 16:41:53 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> does anybody here besides me remember what happened last time we used ECS vectors? 16:42:26 <Chris_Booth> yes PSG 135 16:42:32 <VVG> Some here don't even know what happened last time you used ECS vectors 16:42:35 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> im pretty sure everybody swore off on using it again 16:42:36 <Chris_Booth> and the game got lost 16:42:42 <VVG> I'm intrigued know 16:42:46 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> yes, cause it was that horrible 16:42:55 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> so bad nobody wanted to archive it 16:42:56 <VVG> why? 16:43:01 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> LOL 16:43:15 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> i can't say, it's too terrible 16:43:20 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Do say 16:43:32 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> yer making me remember horrible images 16:43:44 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> are you trying to traumatize me? 16:43:51 <duckblaster> yay! torture! 16:43:58 <Chris_Booth> !password 16:43:58 <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: veered 16:44:49 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Just tell us so we know why not to play with ECS :D 16:44:59 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> fine 16:45:06 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> too compliccated 16:45:17 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> happy? 16:45:24 <PublicServer> <Vitus> That's it? :D 16:45:29 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 16:45:31 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Where's the torture? 16:45:41 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> there are worlds of torture in that simple sentence 16:45:52 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> its complex as you need to supply secondary industries with the correct mix of primaries 16:46:00 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> only somebody who's experienced it can truly grasp the horror 16:46:03 <duckblaster> could somebody fix plastic and aluminium please 16:46:04 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> and primaries are stock piled 16:46:21 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> not to mention that there's like 8 or 9 different vectors 16:46:44 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> then the stockpile means you need to run trains to multiple different stations so they dont get cargo rejection 16:47:01 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Oh yes, I almost forgot :) 16:47:08 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> and there's so many different cargo pickup/drop paths 16:47:09 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Got to go 16:47:09 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> cya 16:47:12 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Take care 16:47:15 <PublicServer> *** fmauNeko has left the game (leaving) 16:47:20 *** fmauNeko has quit IRC 16:47:23 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> maybe next game should be Holding + subsidiaries game? 16:47:28 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> the only people who play ECS are masochists 16:47:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> Absolutis (FIN): wtf 16:47:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> Razaekel: or noobs 16:47:48 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> well 16:47:49 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> Taking it in consideration, the next game could be ECS + chaos theory+ Montainous terrain :D 16:47:51 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> we have noobs here 16:47:53 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Or masochist noobs 16:48:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> noobs here cant be compared to general noobs 16:48:14 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> sure they can 16:48:19 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> who the heck was making 2x45s 16:48:25 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> theres your noob right there 16:48:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> are you looking at network plan or some logic track? :P 16:48:54 <PublicServer> <Vitus> What about point-to-point wonders? You forgot these :) 16:48:55 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> hmm I believe it was a signal rail 16:49:01 *** Dezmond_snz has joined #openttdcoop 16:49:02 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> i was looking at actual railroad track 16:49:12 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> 2x45 multiple times on station entry tracks 16:49:34 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> the last H&S game we had was PSG 132. 16:49:35 <duckblaster> where? 16:49:40 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> the ones used by the 5TL trains 16:49:55 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> they've been removed now 16:49:56 <duckblaster> aluminium or plastic? 16:49:57 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Oh yes, I remember at least one :) 16:50:32 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> cool, there is a rail cutting a farm in half 16:50:56 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (desync error) 16:51:03 *** murr7y has joined #openttdcoop 16:51:05 <planetmaker> hm 16:51:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> nice 16:51:13 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> who made lower strömstad? 16:51:29 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Not me 16:51:30 <Chris_Booth> WTF 16:51:33 <Chris_Booth> desync 16:51:39 <planetmaker> Chris_Booth: what kind of client? 16:51:40 <Chris_Booth> and hi planetmaker 16:51:46 <planetmaker> hi Chris_Booth :-) 16:51:59 <Chris_Booth> !password 16:51:59 <PublicServer> Chris_Booth: veered 16:52:08 <planetmaker> self-compiled or downloaded? 16:52:25 <planetmaker> Chris_Booth: ^ 16:52:32 <Chris_Booth> downloaded 16:52:37 <planetmaker> hm 16:52:40 <Chris_Booth> unpatched 16:52:41 <planetmaker> !info 16:52:41 <PublicServer> planetmaker: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Coopers #188' Year Founded: 1950 Money: 1757491437 Loan: 0 Value: 1776006903 (T:217, R:15, P:10, S:0) unprotected 16:52:56 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> lower stromstrad is a very interesting station 16:52:58 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> lol 16:53:11 <planetmaker> !rcon debug desync=3 16:53:11 <PublicServer> planetmaker: ERROR: command not found 16:53:12 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> who made it? 16:53:17 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> no clue 16:53:24 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 16:53:26 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 16:53:29 <planetmaker> !rcon set debug desync=3 16:53:30 <PublicServer> planetmaker: 'debug' is an unknown setting. 16:53:36 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> me 16:53:43 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000000: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00000000.png 16:53:44 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> no you didnt 16:53:47 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yes i did 16:53:52 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> prove it 16:53:59 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> sign it, whoever that was. 16:54:07 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i boult those 3 stations about an hour ago 16:54:15 <planetmaker> !rcon set desync_debug 3 16:54:15 <PublicServer> planetmaker: 'desync_debug' is an unknown setting. 16:55:20 <planetmaker> !rcon set debug_level desync=3 16:55:20 <PublicServer> planetmaker: 'debug_level' is an unknown setting. 16:55:26 <planetmaker> !rcon set debuglevel desync=3 16:55:26 <PublicServer> planetmaker: 'debuglevel' is an unknown setting. 16:55:29 <planetmaker> gah 16:55:35 <Vitus> pm, try !rcon debug_level desync=3 16:55:55 <planetmaker> !rcon debug_level desync=3 16:55:55 <PublicServer> planetmaker: CmdRenameSign Razaekel date:2413-12-26 tile:00000000 p1:000001AE p2:00000000 text: price:0 16:55:55 <PublicServer> planetmaker: CmdLevelLand Chris Booth date:2413-12-26 tile:0003265D p1:0003265D p2:FFFFFFFF text: price:202 16:55:55 <PublicServer> planetmaker: CmdRenameSign Razaekel date:2413-12-26 tile:00000000 p1:000001A1 p2:00000000 text: price:0 16:56:02 <planetmaker> thanks, Vitus :-) 16:56:09 *** murr6y has quit IRC 16:56:14 <planetmaker> !rcon save debug_start 16:56:15 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Saving map... 16:56:22 <planetmaker> !rcon load debug_start.sav 16:56:33 <planetmaker> !rcon clients 16:56:33 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Client #1 name: 'PublicServer' company: 255 IP: 0.0.0.0 16:56:33 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Client #537 name: 'Ramsus08191' company: 1 IP: 187.65.207.21 16:56:33 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Client #562 name: 'Chris Booth' company: 1 IP: 86.25.5.181 16:56:33 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Client #524 name: 'Absolutis (FIN)' company: 1 IP: 80.222.135.63 16:56:33 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Client #541 name: 'VVG' company: 1 IP: 85.249.0.42 16:56:34 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Client #506 name: 'Lukeus Maximus' company: 1 IP: 217.41.61.10 16:56:34 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Client #538 name: 'Spike' company: 255 IP: 213.46.200.3 16:56:36 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Client #550 name: 'Razaekel' company: 1 IP: 141.218.229.223 16:56:36 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Client #533 name: 'Yso' company: 1 IP: 92.105.196.215 16:56:38 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Client #552 name: 'duckblaster' company: 1 IP: 202.65.55.105 16:56:38 <PublicServer> planetmaker: you have 3 more messages 16:56:54 <planetmaker> hm... did it re-load? 16:57:05 <planetmaker> !rcon debug_level 16:57:05 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Current debug-level: 'ai=0, driver=0, grf=0, map=0, misc=0, net=0, sprite=0, oldloader=0, npf=0, yapf=0, freetype=0, sl=0, gamelog=0, desync=3, console=0' 16:57:07 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no 16:57:16 <planetmaker> !rcon save debug_start 16:57:17 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Saving map... 16:57:17 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Map successfully saved to debug_start.sav 16:57:27 <planetmaker> !rcon load debug_start 16:57:27 <PublicServer> planetmaker: CmdBuildRailroadTrack VVG date:2414-01-31 tile:000698D9 p1:000698D9 p2:000000D1 text: price:890 16:57:27 <PublicServer> planetmaker: CmdBuildSingleSignal Chris Booth date:2414-01-31 tile:0003206B p1:000050A0 p2:00000000 text: price:48 16:57:27 <PublicServer> planetmaker: CmdBuildSingleSignal Chris Booth date:2414-01-31 tile:0003206B p1:000050A0 p2:00000000 text: price:0 16:57:27 <PublicServer> planetmaker: debug_start: No such file or directory. 16:57:34 <planetmaker> !rcon load debug_start.sav 16:57:34 <PublicServer> planetmaker: debug_start.sav: No such file or directory. 16:57:39 <planetmaker> !rcon pwd 16:57:39 <PublicServer> planetmaker: /home/openttd/svn-public/autopilot/save/uploads/ 16:57:43 <planetmaker> !rcon cd .. 16:57:46 <planetmaker> !rcon load debug_start.sav 16:57:53 <Razaekel> !password 16:57:53 <PublicServer> Razaekel: madder 16:57:54 <Vitus> OK 16:57:55 <VVG> ghe 16:57:57 <^Spike^> ? 16:57:59 <Ramsus08191> what? 16:58:07 <planetmaker> hm? 16:58:08 <^Spike^> you wrecked it again PM 16:58:08 <PublicServer> *** Razaekel joined the game 16:58:09 <Ramsus08191> !password 16:58:10 <PublicServer> Ramsus08191: madder 16:58:12 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (connection lost) 16:58:19 <planetmaker> in what way, ^Spike^ ? 16:58:30 <Razaekel> booted the players, he means 16:58:33 *** Absolutis has joined #openttdcoop 16:58:36 <PublicServer> *** Vitus joined the game 16:58:41 <Absolutis> !password 16:58:41 <PublicServer> Absolutis: madder 16:58:48 <PublicServer> *** Razaekel has joined company #1 16:59:01 <Chris_Booth> why cant i @op myself in #openttdcoop.stable any more? 16:59:02 *** Absolutis has left #openttdcoop 16:59:14 <PublicServer> *** VVG has left the game (connection lost) 16:59:24 <PublicServer> *** Vitus has joined company #1 16:59:52 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 16:59:53 <planetmaker> !rcon clients 16:59:53 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 16:59:54 <PublicServer> planetmaker: say_client 564 "Welcome Chris Booth" 16:59:54 <PublicServer> planetmaker: say_client 564 "You are playing on \"#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)\"" 16:59:54 <PublicServer> planetmaker: say_client 564 "House rules are at http://ps.openttdcoop.org/" 16:59:54 <PublicServer> planetmaker: say_client 564 "say !help for more information" 16:59:54 <PublicServer> planetmaker: say_client 564 "---" 16:59:56 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Client #1 name: 'PublicServer' company: 255 IP: 0.0.0.0 16:59:56 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Client #574 name: 'Spike' company: 255 IP: 213.46.200.3 16:59:58 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Client #564 name: 'Chris Booth' company: 255 IP: 86.25.5.181 16:59:58 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Client #565 name: 'Razaekel' company: 1 IP: 141.218.229.223 17:00:00 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Client #580 name: 'VVG' company: 1 IP: 85.249.0.42 17:00:00 <PublicServer> planetmaker: you have 6 more messages 17:00:02 <PublicServer> *** VVG joined the game 17:00:04 <planetmaker> !more 17:00:04 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Client #576 name: 'duckblaster' company: 1 IP: 202.65.55.105 17:00:04 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Client #568 name: 'Vitus' company: 1 IP: 77.237.138.194 17:00:04 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Client #569 name: 'Ramsus08191' company: 255 IP: 187.65.207.21 17:00:06 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Client #570 name: 'Owen' company: 255 IP: 86.30.17.223 17:00:06 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Client #572 name: 'Lukeus Maximus' company: 255 IP: 217.41.61.10 17:00:08 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Client #578 name: 'Absolutis (FIN)' company: 1 IP: 80.222.135.63 17:00:08 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has joined company #1 17:00:20 <planetmaker> hm, was the map really re-loaded? 17:00:25 <Chris_Booth> yes it is 17:00:32 <Ramsus08191> ye 17:00:37 <PublicServer> *** duckblaster joined the game 17:00:38 <planetmaker> hm, ok :-) 17:00:42 <planetmaker> !rcon set autosave 0 17:00:42 <PublicServer> planetmaker: players 17:00:42 <PublicServer> planetmaker: server_info 17:00:42 <PublicServer> planetmaker: clients 17:00:42 <PublicServer> planetmaker: echo doneclientcount 17:00:42 <PublicServer> planetmaker: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Coopers #188' Year Founded: 1950 Money: 1759281308 Loan: 0 Value: 1776977663 (T:217, R:15, P:10, S:0) unprotected 17:00:44 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Current/maximum clients: 8/255 17:00:44 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Current/maximum companies: 1/ 1 17:00:46 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Current/maximum spectators: 4/10 17:00:46 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Client #1 name: 'PublicServer' company: 255 IP: 0.0.0.0 17:00:48 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Client #574 name: 'Spike' company: 255 IP: 213.46.200.3 17:00:48 <PublicServer> planetmaker: you have 10 more messages 17:00:49 <planetmaker> !rcon set autosave 17:00:50 <PublicServer> *** Ramsus08191 joined the game 17:00:50 <PublicServer> *** Absolutis (FIN) joined the game 17:00:52 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Current value for 'autosave' is: '0' (min: 0, max: 4) 17:01:11 *** Dezmond_snz has quit IRC 17:01:30 <Lukeus_Maximus> !password 17:01:30 <PublicServer> Lukeus_Maximus: madder 17:01:42 <PublicServer> *** Lukeus Maximus joined the game 17:01:57 <PublicServer> *** Lukeus Maximus has joined company #1 17:02:29 <PublicServer> *** Razaekel has left the game (leaving) 17:02:39 <PublicServer> *** Absolutis (FIN) has left the game (leaving) 17:02:51 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (desync error) 17:02:52 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (desync error) 17:02:52 <PublicServer> *** VVG has left the game (desync error) 17:02:52 <PublicServer> *** Vitus has left the game (desync error) 17:02:52 <PublicServer> *** Lukeus Maximus has left the game (desync error) 17:02:52 <PublicServer> *** Ramsus08191 has left the game (desync error) 17:02:55 <PublicServer> *** duckblaster has left the game (desync error) 17:02:57 <Vitus> lol 17:02:59 <planetmaker> wth??! 17:03:03 <Ramsus08191> whoa 17:03:10 <Ramsus08191> you did it again PM 17:03:10 <Chris_Booth> nicde 17:03:21 <duckblaster> !password 17:03:21 <PublicServer> duckblaster: madder 17:03:27 <Chris_Booth> its not planetmakers fault 17:03:55 <Ramsus08191> I know : ) 17:04:12 <PublicServer> *** duckblaster joined the game 17:04:14 <duckblaster> i might have the worst connection ever, but i didn't think it is that bad 17:04:41 *** Dezmond_snz has joined #openttdcoop 17:04:46 <PublicServer> *** Vitus joined the game 17:04:50 <PublicServer> *** Ramsus08191 joined the game 17:05:22 <Chris_Booth> i recon you should blame V453000 its always his fault 17:05:50 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> ah, I see 17:06:08 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> *noted 17:06:22 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 17:06:22 <Ammler> !url 17:06:22 <PublicServer> Ammler: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/ 17:06:23 <PublicServer> *** VVG joined the game 17:08:45 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00032063: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00032063.png 17:08:53 <PublicServer> <VVG> Can someone please take a look at SLH08? I'm wondering if i need to sync some of the SLH bridges 17:09:12 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> YES 17:09:19 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> all track should be in sync 17:10:23 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> is that a wooden bridge? 17:10:50 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> at !bridge 17:10:51 <PublicServer> <VVG> girder, 3 tiles, 257 kmh 17:10:57 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> hmmm 17:12:55 <V453000> !password 17:12:55 <PublicServer> V453000: graded 17:13:17 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 17:13:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> Chris Booth: not this time I think :( 17:13:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> [the desync] 17:13:51 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> always your fault 17:14:37 *** Bigb has joined #openttdcoop 17:14:42 <Bigb> !download 17:14:42 <PublicServer> Bigb: !download autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|win32|win64|win9x 17:14:50 <Bigb> !download win32 17:14:50 <PublicServer> Bigb: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r20080/openttd-trunk-r20080-windows-win32.zip 17:15:33 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 17:15:50 <Ammler> Bigb: webchat works also here ;-) 17:16:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> wtf 17:16:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> trains 176, 179 17:17:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> stuck in center 17:17:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> how did they get there? 17:17:31 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> I think those were the lost trains 17:17:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> for sure 17:18:26 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> SLH 09 worlds most amazing SLH now bult 17:18:35 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> built(if i can ever spell) 17:18:42 <Bigb> !password 17:18:42 <PublicServer> Bigb: graded 17:19:22 <PublicServer> *** BigB joined the game 17:19:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 17:19:33 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> BigB: turn team chat off please 17:19:35 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> hello 17:19:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> btw. it is better to chat in [all] 17:19:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 17:20:32 <PublicServer> <BigB> just looking atm 17:20:39 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> get a felling someone doesnt like my station 17:20:50 <PublicServer> <BigB> second game ive been in a coop game :D 17:21:23 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Back 17:21:30 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (desync error) 17:21:31 <PublicServer> *** Vitus has left the game (desync error) 17:21:31 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (desync error) 17:21:31 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (desync error) 17:21:31 <PublicServer> *** BigB has left the game (desync error) 17:21:32 <PublicServer> *** VVG has left the game (connection lost) 17:21:32 <PublicServer> *** Ramsus08191 has left the game (desync error) 17:21:34 <PublicServer> *** duckblaster has left the game (desync error) 17:21:35 <Vitus> Or not 17:21:39 <VVG> hee 17:21:41 <V453000> nice indeed 17:21:42 <Ramsus08191> ahahah 17:21:43 <PublicServer> *** BigB joined the game 17:21:52 <Ammler> who build SLH9? 17:21:55 <Vitus> !password 17:21:55 <PublicServer> Vitus: graded 17:22:16 <Chris_Booth> check the sign Ammler 17:22:17 <planetmaker> hm. wow 17:22:28 <Ammler> !players 17:22:30 <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 597 (Orange) is BigB, in company 1 (Coopers #188) 17:22:30 <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 600 (Orange) is duckblaster, in company 1 (Coopers #188) 17:22:30 <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 602 (Orange) is Chris Booth, in company 1 (Coopers #188) 17:22:30 <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 603 (Orange) is Vitus, in company 1 (Coopers #188) 17:22:30 <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 605 (Orange) is Ramsus08191, in company 1 (Coopers #188) 17:22:32 <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 607 (Orange) is V453000, in company 1 (Coopers #188) 17:22:32 <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 570 is Owen, a spectator 17:22:32 <Chris_Booth> i think it was me 17:22:36 <Chris_Booth> not 100% 17:22:46 <PublicServer> *** duckblaster joined the game 17:22:52 <Ammler> ah, so you lied :-( 17:23:03 <Chris_Booth> how did i lie? 17:23:33 <Chris_Booth> and why wont Webster op me in stable anymore? 17:23:42 <PublicServer> *** Vitus has left the game (connection lost) 17:23:47 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000000: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00000000.png 17:23:51 <Vitus> !password 17:23:51 <PublicServer> Vitus: maniac 17:23:55 <V453000> 8D 17:23:56 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 17:23:57 <V453000> nice pw 17:23:59 <PublicServer> *** Ramsus08191 joined the game 17:24:02 <duckblaster> check !train jam 17:24:07 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 17:24:10 <VVG> !password 17:24:10 <PublicServer> VVG: maniac 17:24:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> xD 17:24:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> it isnt a jam 17:24:35 <PublicServer> *** Vitus joined the game 17:24:36 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> V453000: check train jam you broke it 17:24:42 <PublicServer> *** VVG joined the game 17:24:48 <PublicServer> <BigB> this network is wat overkill 17:24:50 <duckblaster> it was like that before desync 17:25:00 <duckblaster> when it was not paused 17:25:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> STOP 17:25:18 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> make me 17:25:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> you added that signal? 17:25:35 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yes 17:25:36 <PublicServer> <Vitus> VVG, still building SLH 08? 17:25:39 <PublicServer> <VVG> I need help at SLH 08. I can't fit into landscape and leave enough space for another SLH 17:25:42 <PublicServer> <VVG> yup 17:26:11 <PublicServer> <Vitus> I can help you with the sync, if you want 17:26:17 <PublicServer> <BigB> were is SLH 08 17:26:18 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> V453000: they will never move! 17:26:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> wont they 17:26:27 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Check sign list 17:26:45 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ok they will 17:26:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> anything else? :) 17:26:52 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> you suck 17:26:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> I know 17:27:46 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> what happened to Strömstad Upper and Lower Trains? 17:27:49 <planetmaker> people, you might want to grab the current nightly 17:28:10 <planetmaker> I'm updating the server to see whether the desync will still occur then 17:28:12 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> you going to update then PM? 17:28:19 <planetmaker> yes 17:28:28 <PublicServer> <Vitus> VVG: There you go 17:28:30 <PublicServer> <VVG> hmm 17:29:02 <planetmaker> !rcon save desync_start2 17:29:03 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Saving map... 17:29:09 <planetmaker> !rcon quit 17:29:11 <PublicServer> Server has exited 17:29:12 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 17:29:19 <Bigb> wat happend 17:29:22 <Ramsus08191> !password 17:29:28 <Chris_Booth> we are updating everyone 17:29:33 <Chris_Booth> to latest nightly 17:29:36 <Bigb> ok 17:29:42 <Bigb> !download win32 17:29:42 <Chris_Booth> read chat and you would have seen 17:29:50 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 17:29:50 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 17:29:50 <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 17:29:51 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 17:29:51 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #188 (r20128) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | Welcome to the depths of insanity | create a wiki userpage" 17:29:56 <Vitus> r20128? 17:29:58 <Vitus> Oh, OK 17:30:05 <Vitus> !dl win 17:30:05 <PublicServer> Vitus: unknown option "win" 17:30:05 <VVG> !dl win32 17:30:05 <PublicServer> VVG: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r20128/openttd-trunk-r20128-windows-win32.zip 17:30:08 <Vitus> !dl win32 17:30:09 <PublicServer> Vitus: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r20128/openttd-trunk-r20128-windows-win32.zip 17:30:09 <Bigb> i was reading the chat 17:30:12 <Vitus> Oh well :D 17:30:19 <planetmaker> sorry for the trouble 17:30:29 <Vitus> Any idea what caused it, pm? 17:30:33 <duckblaster> !download lin 17:30:33 <PublicServer> duckblaster: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r20128/openttd-trunk-r20128-linux-generic-i686.tar.bz2 17:30:41 <planetmaker> no clue, Vitus 17:31:32 <Vitus> Hmmm, r20128 has the mouseover tooltips 17:31:54 <planetmaker> the savegame is the correct one and latest, right? 17:31:56 <Bigb> !password 17:31:56 <PublicServer> Bigb: fester 17:32:07 <PublicServer> *** BigB joined the game 17:32:11 <PublicServer> *** BigB has left the game (connection lost) 17:32:30 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 17:32:39 <V453000> oh 17:32:41 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 17:32:47 <Bigb> crash ? 17:32:47 <planetmaker> hm? 17:32:50 <V453000> crash 17:32:55 <planetmaker> :-O 17:32:56 <Bigb> same here 17:33:01 <planetmaker> holy shit 17:33:04 <^Spike^> when did it crash 17:33:07 <V453000> slope functon something 17:33:11 <planetmaker> please make a bug report 17:33:22 <PublicServer> *** VVG has left the game (connection lost) 17:33:29 <planetmaker> I've seen that today, too. But on an old savegame with missing newgrf 17:33:48 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (connection lost) 17:33:53 <^Spike^> who's in front of me 17:33:54 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 17:33:54 <^Spike^> well was :) 17:33:58 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> er me 17:34:13 <V453000> hmm 17:34:15 <PublicServer> *** Vitus joined the game 17:34:16 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 17:34:19 <PublicServer> *** BigB joined the game 17:34:20 <V453000> my crash file looks useless 17:34:25 <PublicServer> *** Spike has joined company #1 17:34:29 <PublicServer> *** Vitus has left the game (connection lost) 17:34:31 <PublicServer> *** BigB has left the game (connection lost) 17:34:34 <PublicServer> *** VVG joined the game 17:34:36 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has joined company #1 17:34:37 <Bigb> need the bug report ? 17:34:39 <planetmaker> V453000: what is "useless"? It may not be to others 17:34:41 <planetmaker> who know 17:34:46 <planetmaker> BigB: OpenTTD devs do 17:34:47 <PublicServer> *** VVG has left the game (connection lost) 17:34:50 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 17:35:00 <V453000> planetmaker: date of crash is 1 year old :D 17:35:06 <Bigb> so that doesnt work 17:35:07 <planetmaker> oh 17:35:18 * planetmaker still compiles 17:35:26 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 17:35:29 <planetmaker> looks like we downgrade again 17:35:33 <^Spike^> V453000 what do you exactly do? 17:35:38 <V453000> me? 17:35:40 <V453000> nothing 17:35:42 <planetmaker> what revision was it before? 17:35:44 <^Spike^> to crash? 17:35:46 <^Spike^> 20080 17:35:47 <Vitus> 20080 17:35:47 <V453000> 20080 17:35:51 <planetmaker> thanks 17:35:56 <V453000> yw x3 17:35:59 <PublicServer> *** duckblaster joined the game 17:36:05 <Vitus> I demand my own thanks :D 17:36:06 <Bigb> crash happens with one of the newGRF's 17:36:13 <planetmaker> I just wait till I've seen the crash myself ;-) 17:36:26 <planetmaker> compiler at 't' :-P 17:36:28 <PublicServer> *** duckblaster has left the game (connection lost) 17:36:32 <^Spike^> that's why i ask how they did it :) 17:36:39 <^Spike^> reproduceability.. :) 17:36:49 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i havent bombed yet 17:36:49 <Bigb> just join the game 17:36:50 <Bigb> and see 17:36:54 <duckblaster> i have to go now 17:37:09 <^Spike^> i joined the game 17:37:09 <PublicServer> *** BigB joined the game 17:37:11 <^Spike^> nothing happens :) 17:37:17 <Vitus> Well, my crash.sav crashes everytime, so I'd say it is reproduceable 17:37:17 <^Spike^> ah.. now does :) 17:37:22 <PublicServer> *** planetm4ker joined the game 17:37:23 <planetmaker> BigB: yes, that's what I'll do. But I need OpenTTD compiled :-) 17:37:23 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (connection lost) 17:37:35 <PublicServer> *** BigB has left the game (connection lost) 17:37:37 <^Spike^> NOT_REACHED triggered at line 139 of src/slope_func.h 17:37:38 <Vitus> Is someone working on FS task? 17:37:50 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> not me so far 17:37:51 <Bigb> happens wen zooming 17:37:56 <^Spike^> try zoom pm 17:38:02 <VVG> oh well, i'll afk for sometime 17:38:14 <planetmaker> awesome, ^Spike^ 17:38:16 <planetmaker> yes 17:38:16 <PublicServer> *** planetm4ker has left the game (connection lost) 17:38:20 <PublicServer> *** BigB joined the game 17:38:25 <Ramsus08191> !pasword 17:38:28 <Vitus> So, it's back to r20080? 17:38:30 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> i feel left out 17:38:41 <PublicServer> <BigB> try zooming 17:38:47 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> when i zoom nothing happens 17:38:52 <Ramsus08191> !password 17:38:52 <PublicServer> Ramsus08191: fester 17:38:54 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> just in / out like normal 17:39:03 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 17:39:10 <PublicServer> *** Ramsus08191 joined the game 17:39:14 <^Spike^> it's at certain parts of the map 17:39:15 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (connection lost) 17:39:15 <^Spike^> not everywhere 17:39:37 <PublicServer> *** BigB has left the game (connection lost) 17:40:06 <PublicServer> *** planetm4ker joined the game 17:40:06 <planetmaker> Vitus: you prepared the bug report? 17:40:15 <Vitus> Not yet 17:40:25 <PublicServer> *** planetm4ker has left the game (connection lost) 17:40:38 <planetmaker> will you? 17:40:43 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> the msx files are for the music right? they dont affect the sound efects or the gameplay yes? 17:40:47 <Vitus> Yes 17:40:50 <planetmaker> yes 17:40:54 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> ok 17:40:58 <^Spike^> problem must be somewhere in the src since that file hasn't changed in 3 months.. and seeing it is a switch... i think it gets something it doesn't know :D 17:41:11 <PublicServer> Server closed down by admin 17:41:14 <PublicServer> Server has exited 17:41:14 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 17:41:50 <^Spike^> i think it's rev 20126 that broke it... just a guess btw :) 17:41:55 <^Spike^> don't pin me down on that :D 17:42:10 <Chris_Booth> i couldnt get it to drop me 17:42:20 <Chris_Booth> my client was fine 17:42:56 <Ramsus08191> mine was fine as well.... it didnt crash for the time I was playing 17:43:04 <Bigb> mine was crashing 17:43:08 <Bigb> OS ? 17:43:14 <Chris_Booth> win 64 17:44:04 <Ramsus08191> win 32 xp SP3 17:44:12 <planetmaker> any case: downgrade to r20080 17:44:33 <planetmaker> big sorry for the hassle. I had no idea it'd fail that big :-) 17:44:46 <Bigb> !password 17:44:51 <Chris_Booth> its a game of which rev is worse 17:44:53 <planetmaker> BigB: server is still compiling 17:44:57 *** duckblaster has quit IRC 17:44:58 <Bigb> ^^ 17:44:58 <Chris_Booth> crashing or desync 17:45:13 <Bigb> realised that when i pressed enter 17:45:17 <planetmaker> :-) 17:45:23 <Ramsus08191> anyway, I am leaving, bye ppl 17:45:33 <planetmaker> enjoy, Ramsus08191 and come back later :-) 17:45:40 <Vitus> Task posted... I hope :) 17:45:47 *** Ramsus08191 has quit IRC 17:45:52 <planetmaker> you can easily check ;-) 17:46:20 <Vitus> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/3944 17:46:24 <Lukeus_Maximus> is it up? 17:46:33 <Lukeus_Maximus> If not I'll go play TF2 for a while. 17:49:32 <Vitus> Goddamn... I can't type :D 17:51:11 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 17:51:11 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 17:51:11 <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 17:51:11 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 17:51:11 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #188 (r20128) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | Welcome to the depths of insanity | create a wiki userpage" 17:51:20 <planetmaker> one short crash try again. Sorry :-) 17:52:02 <PublicServer> *** planetm4ker joined the game 17:52:12 <Vitus> !password 17:52:12 <PublicServer> Vitus: bridle 17:52:33 <PublicServer> *** planetm4ker has left the game (connection lost) 17:53:11 <Vitus> Oh well, I thought you downgraded it already... never mind :) 17:53:59 <planetmaker> Vitus: yes. I just wanted to test something for the bug report. 17:54:04 <planetmaker> the downgraded version is coming 17:54:06 <planetmaker> !rcon quit 17:54:08 <PublicServer> Server has exited 17:54:09 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 17:54:36 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 17:54:36 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 17:54:36 <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 17:54:36 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 17:54:36 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #188 (r20080) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | Welcome to the depths of insanity | create a wiki userpage" 17:54:41 <Vitus> Thank you 17:55:02 <Vitus> !password 17:55:02 <PublicServer> Vitus: beacon 17:55:14 <planetmaker> thanks for your patience, Vitus 17:55:20 <Vitus> Bacon would be better password :) 17:55:29 <planetmaker> :-D 17:55:40 <PublicServer> *** Vitus joined the game 17:55:44 <planetmaker> !rcon debug_level desync=3 17:55:48 <Bigb> !password 17:55:48 <PublicServer> Bigb: beacon 17:56:02 <PublicServer> *** BigB joined the game 17:56:09 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Oh, at least the modified SLH 08 is there :) 17:56:19 <planetmaker> !rcon load desync_start2.sav 17:56:35 <planetmaker> sorry. I need to load in order to have a defined start point :-) 17:57:01 <PublicServer> *** Vitus joined the game 17:57:03 <PublicServer> *** BigB joined the game 17:57:24 <PublicServer> *** Vitus has joined company #1 17:57:54 <PublicServer> <BigB> can i try something ? 17:57:59 <PublicServer> *** BigB has joined company #1 17:58:01 <PublicServer> <Vitus> What? 17:58:12 <PublicServer> <BigB> building something :P 17:58:18 <PublicServer> <Vitus> But what? :) 17:58:26 <planetmaker> hm. And now I effectively reduced the player count from ~12 to 2 :-( 17:58:37 * planetmaker feels bad 17:58:38 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 17:58:41 <V453000> ? :D 17:58:57 <PublicServer> <BigB> dunno:P 17:59:32 <Vitus> It's like 12->2 balancer :) 18:00:18 *** Absolutis has joined #openttdcoop 18:00:42 <Bigb> http://i31.tinypic.com/65ads0.jpg , http://www.tt-forums.net/download/file.php?id=112603 18:00:45 <Absolutis> !password 18:00:45 <PublicServer> Absolutis: beacon 18:00:51 <Bigb> biggest junctions i made 18:01:19 <V453000> XeryusTC would be pleased 18:01:22 <V453000> by the LRLR 18:01:39 <planetmaker> Vitus: I like 12->1 balancer :-P 18:01:47 <planetmaker> or 1->12 splits... 18:02:15 <V453000> 1->12 flip flop is huuge :p 18:02:16 *** Dezmond_snz has quit IRC 18:02:23 <PublicServer> <BigB> thats gonna be a bottle neck 18:02:48 *** Absolutis has quit IRC 18:02:51 <PublicServer> *** Absolutis (FIN) joined the game 18:04:59 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> ramsus, the Cement plant station had 90 degree turns. 18:05:09 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 18:05:59 <PublicServer> <Absolutis (FIN)> oh, i see. 18:06:17 <PublicServer> *** Absolutis (FIN) has left the game (connection lost) 18:07:01 <PublicServer> <BigB> are we having a jam @ the husge station in the center ? 18:07:09 <V453000> no 18:07:12 <V453000> that is waiting trains 18:07:18 <V453000> shiver in fear if you touch the center 18:07:26 *** Dezmond_snz has joined #openttdcoop 18:07:50 <PublicServer> <BigB> S/W side 18:08:03 <PublicServer> <BigB> were are those waiting for ? 18:08:34 <V453000> for free platforms 18:08:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> look 18:08:47 <Vitus> brb 18:08:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> I will free up one platform 18:08:52 <PublicServer> *** Vitus has left the game (leaving) 18:09:00 *** gleeb has joined #openttdcoop 18:09:47 <PublicServer> <BigB> O_o 18:10:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> +) 18:10:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> ;) 18:10:24 <planetmaker> +:-) <-- the pope? 18:10:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> nah 18:11:13 <PublicServer> <BigB> dont understand the signalling 18:11:15 <PublicServer> <BigB> cool 18:11:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 18:11:38 <PublicServer> <BigB> they appear to be waiting for a green ligth 18:12:16 <PublicServer> *** BigB has left the game (desync error) 18:12:16 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (desync error) 18:12:24 <V453000> they are 18:12:41 <Bigb> !password 18:12:41 <PublicServer> Bigb: catchy 18:12:44 <planetmaker> ... 18:12:56 <PublicServer> *** planetm4ker joined the game 18:12:56 <planetmaker> holy cow 18:13:02 <PublicServer> *** BigB joined the game 18:13:04 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 18:14:34 <PublicServer> <BigB> think i need to wait for the next game ^^ 18:14:43 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> why, BigB? 18:15:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> if you are new, this is the ideal time for you to build 18:15:09 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> exactly 18:15:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> SLHs and connecting primaries 18:15:17 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> the tracks are hardly populated 18:15:32 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> SLHs and primaries are the idea thing to get started with 18:15:37 <PublicServer> <BigB> ok 18:16:01 <PublicServer> <BigB> any tips were to start ? 18:16:42 <PublicServer> <BigB> just connect a coalmine ? 18:16:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> if there is a sideline alerady 18:16:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> then yes 18:17:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> SLH 09 is not populated yet 18:17:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> 04 neither 18:17:45 *** gnemo has joined #openttdcoop 18:17:47 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> beer station :-D 18:18:48 <PublicServer> <BigB> so i can build rail from SLH 09 to the coalmines in the SE 18:19:11 <Mazur> !password 18:19:11 <PublicServer> Mazur: catchy 18:19:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> what is with beer :) 18:19:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> cant I have beer station at least in firs? :P 18:19:27 <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game 18:19:36 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> of course :-) 18:19:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> and HQ still doesnt accept beer :( 18:19:42 <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> I just have never seen one :-) 18:22:41 <PublicServer> <BigB> how long for a coal loading platform ? 18:22:58 <PublicServer> <BigB> *how much tiles 18:23:01 <PublicServer> <Mazur> 5 18:23:02 <PublicServer> *** planetm4ker has left the game (connection lost) 18:24:43 <PublicServer> *** Gnemo joined the game 18:25:58 <PublicServer> <BigB> roro or the thing with the rail crossing ? 18:26:33 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Whatever suits you best. 18:28:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> those fucked up industries are dying! 18:28:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> planetmaker? is it true that we need to constantly deliver supplies in order to prevent that? 18:28:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> even served industries are losing production 18:28:53 <PublicServer> <BigB> we need high ratings 18:29:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> we have high ratings 18:29:55 <planetmaker> V453000: afaik it should only affect growth, not dying 18:30:03 <planetmaker> e.g. no supplies -> no growth. 18:30:09 <planetmaker> But the opposite is afaik not true 18:30:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> it seems so so far 18:30:32 <planetmaker> :S 18:30:36 *** Progman has quit IRC 18:30:41 <planetmaker> well. So we need to ship supplies everywhere 18:30:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> pretty much 18:32:02 <planetmaker> we might use some RV for that. They have low capacity and everything could get some 18:32:11 <V453000> indeed 18:32:16 <planetmaker> and the excess might be shipped by trains to ... a supply dump :-PÜ 18:32:18 <planetmaker> -Ü 18:32:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> well machine shop->transfer is trains 18:32:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> from transfers to industries we could RV 18:33:57 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 18:34:39 <devilsadvocate> you're playing an ECS game? 18:38:12 <PublicServer> <BigB> ok i connected some coal mines 18:38:36 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 18:38:46 <PublicServer> <BigB> wat now 18:39:05 *** sparr has quit IRC 18:40:41 <PublicServer> <Mazur> V453000: Your station is blocked. 18:41:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok 18:41:15 <PublicServer> *** BigB has left the game (desync error) 18:41:16 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (desync error) 18:41:16 <PublicServer> *** Gnemo has left the game (desync error) 18:41:18 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (connection lost) 18:41:21 <V453000> !password 18:41:21 <PublicServer> V453000: perter 18:41:28 <planetmaker> :-( 18:41:38 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 18:41:44 <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game 18:41:56 <PublicServer> *** BigB joined the game 18:42:16 <PublicServer> <BigB> blocked ? 18:42:32 <PublicServer> <Mazur> At !block 18:42:33 <PublicServer> *** Gnemo joined the game 18:42:52 <PublicServer> <BigB> xD 18:43:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> Mazur: now go see the signalling 18:43:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> then return and write me a message about intellingence :P 18:43:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> (NOT mine :P0 18:43:54 <PublicServer> <Mazur> I was still trying to figure yourspaghetti there. 18:44:12 <PublicServer> <Mazur> You can't execute me again. 18:44:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> its not about the spaghetti 18:44:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> trains that wait on these entry signals are separated 18:44:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> by all signals 18:44:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> so they cant block 18:45:11 <PublicServer> <Mazur> So that's the waitig bay. 18:45:15 *** Dezmond_snz has quit IRC 18:45:24 <PublicServer> <BigB> mind if i try to build SLH10 ? 18:45:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> I think it is ok with everyone :) 18:46:17 <PublicServer> <BigB> this is the idea rigth ? 18:49:04 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop 18:49:15 <PublicServer> *** Yso joined the game 18:49:24 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Mind your curve lengths. 18:50:14 <PublicServer> <Mazur> CL 5 for hubs, BigB. 18:50:38 <VVG> Everything seems ok now? 18:50:44 <PublicServer> <BigB> CL5 ? 18:50:56 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Curve length 5. 18:51:15 <PublicServer> <BigB> wich corners are to sharp ? 18:51:52 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (desync error) 18:51:52 <PublicServer> *** BigB has left the game (desync error) 18:51:52 <PublicServer> *** Yso has left the game (desync error) 18:51:52 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (desync error) 18:51:52 <PublicServer> *** Gnemo has left the game (desync error) 18:51:57 <V453000> hmf 18:52:02 <Bigb> !password 18:52:02 <PublicServer> Bigb: perter 18:52:03 <Chris_Booth> no point in playing here 18:52:12 <Mazur> Failed synchronisation, every one? 18:52:15 <PublicServer> *** BigB joined the game 18:52:17 <Bigb> think sp 18:52:58 <PublicServer> *** Gnemo joined the game 18:56:25 <VVG> !password 18:56:25 <PublicServer> VVG: eulogy 18:56:40 <PublicServer> *** VVG joined the game 18:57:15 <Ammler> !revision 18:57:15 <PublicServer> Ammler: Game version is r20080 18:59:01 *** sparr has joined #openttdcoop 19:02:00 <PublicServer> *** BigB has left the game (desync error) 19:02:00 <PublicServer> *** VVG has left the game (desync error) 19:02:00 <PublicServer> *** Gnemo has left the game (desync error) 19:02:05 <Bigb> again 19:02:12 <VVG> A lost game? 19:02:21 <Bigb> !pasword 19:02:25 <Bigb> !password 19:02:25 <PublicServer> Bigb: eulogy 19:02:34 <Bigb> desync 19:02:36 <PublicServer> *** BigB joined the game 19:03:36 <PublicServer> *** Gnemo joined the game 19:03:37 <PublicServer> *** tneo joined the game 19:03:57 <PublicServer> *** tneo has left the game (connection lost) 19:05:52 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 19:06:25 <PublicServer> <BigB> SLH 10 good this way ? 19:06:51 <PublicServer> <BigB> ok 19:06:57 <PublicServer> <BigB> need to double all bridges 19:06:58 <PublicServer> <BigB> see it 19:08:16 <PublicServer> *** VVG joined the game 19:11:10 <PublicServer> <BigB> how to balance ? 19:11:16 <PublicServer> <VVG> what? 19:11:24 <PublicServer> <Gnemo> you have 2 lines connecting to one 19:11:45 <PublicServer> <BigB> found the problem 19:15:54 <PublicServer> <BigB> ty 19:16:02 <PublicServer> <Gnemo> np 19:18:32 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 19:19:28 *** Drury has joined #openttdcoop 19:20:53 <PublicServer> <BigB> would that work > 19:22:20 <PublicServer> <Gnemo> there 19:22:29 <PublicServer> <BigB> wats the difference ? 19:23:23 <PublicServer> <Gnemo> the one bridge could not get to the SL 19:23:43 <PublicServer> <BigB> k 19:23:50 <PublicServer> <BigB> think its done this way 19:26:38 <Lukeus_Maximus> !dl 19:26:38 <PublicServer> Lukeus_Maximus: !dl autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|win32|win64|win9x 19:26:45 <Lukeus_Maximus> !dl win32 19:26:45 <PublicServer> Lukeus_Maximus: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r20080/openttd-trunk-r20080-windows-win32.zip 19:27:03 <PublicServer> *** VVG has left the game (connection lost) 19:29:25 <PublicServer> <BigB> SLH 10 is done 19:29:34 <PublicServer> <BigB> feedback pls ? 19:29:37 <Lukeus_Maximus> !password 19:29:37 <PublicServer> Lukeus_Maximus: twirls 19:29:48 <Lukeus_Maximus> !password 19:29:48 <PublicServer> Lukeus_Maximus: twirls 19:30:03 <PublicServer> *** Lukeus Maximus joined the game 19:37:09 *** Drury has quit IRC 19:37:25 <PublicServer> <BigB> is there a coal drop off ? 19:37:42 <PublicServer> <BigB> nvm found it 19:38:25 <V453000> clone trains from train yard dont search for drops 19:38:51 <PublicServer> <BigB> ?? 19:39:01 <V453000> see train yard 19:39:08 <VVG> there is train yard with stopped trains with orders done right 19:39:10 <V453000> there you have trains divided in goups 19:39:18 <V453000> you need to clone trains from there 19:39:27 <V453000> and change their "primary pickup" order 19:39:31 <VVG> clone it, then ctrl+clone enough trains for your station 19:40:14 <VVG> listen to V 19:40:35 <VVG> V453, that is 19:40:44 <PublicServer> <BigB> so i replace the random primary with my coal mine ? 19:41:30 <V453000> yes 19:41:47 <V453000> and be careful if you cloned coal train from North or South 19:41:48 <V453000> :) 19:41:52 <V453000> might cause huge mess 19:42:08 <PublicServer> <BigB> malsala forest is north rigth ? 19:42:29 <V453000> dunno, not ingame :) 19:42:37 <V453000> North is to the left upper corner of screen 19:42:49 <V453000> the S and N divider is center station 19:42:57 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 19:43:53 <PublicServer> <BigB> i dont get this order 19:44:05 <PublicServer> <BigB> it tell the train to drop off the coal at the steel mill 19:44:12 <PublicServer> <BigB> and the cement plant 19:45:04 <V453000> so what is wrong :) 19:45:13 <avdg> or what do you expect? 19:45:40 <PublicServer> <BigB> xD 19:46:03 <PublicServer> <BigB> forgot were using the expanded industrys 19:46:37 * avdg loves expanded industries, but only on bigger maps 19:46:50 <avdg> or more simply networks 19:47:42 <V453000> avdg loves them so much so he makes pickup for power plant :D 19:47:48 <avdg> :p 19:47:59 <avdg> it was first a textile station 19:48:03 <avdg> someone edited the name 19:48:18 <avdg> and I was wrong :p 19:48:20 <PublicServer> <Spike> xD 19:48:46 <PublicServer> *** avdg joined the game 19:48:49 <PublicServer> <Spike> V 19:48:55 <PublicServer> <Spike> you're massive overflow is blocking 19:49:02 <PublicServer> *** Lukeus Maximus has left the game (desync error) 19:49:27 *** sparr has quit IRC 19:49:29 <PublicServer> <BigB> only 9 trains 19:49:32 <PublicServer> <Spike> and i'm not gonna guess how to fix it 19:49:37 <PublicServer> <Spike> still :) 19:49:44 <V453000> execution? :D 19:49:49 <V453000> !password 19:49:49 <PublicServer> V453000: moated 19:49:54 <PublicServer> <BigB> forgot a piece of rail ^^ 19:49:59 <PublicServer> <Spike> well that means bomb all :D 19:50:06 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 19:50:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok, tell me love 19:50:20 <PublicServer> *** Spike has joined company #1 19:50:34 <PublicServer> <Spike> near your execution thingie ;) 19:50:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok 19:50:52 <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm 19:50:55 <PublicServer> <avdg> trains? 19:50:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> why do you think there is the sign :) 19:50:59 <PublicServer> <Spike> how is getting trains stuck not blocking? ;) 19:51:10 <PublicServer> <Spike> how the fuck should i know :D 19:51:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> see some fuck: 19:52:05 <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm... my laptop starts to show off some lagging moments 19:52:44 <PublicServer> <Spike> ah i see now.. 19:52:49 <PublicServer> <Spike> SIGN IT RIGHT THEN! :D 19:53:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> hm? 19:53:05 <PublicServer> <Spike> how it works 19:53:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> should I write a sign-blogpost? :D 19:53:23 <PublicServer> <Spike> xD 19:53:28 <PublicServer> <Spike> the essence of signing ;) 19:53:40 <PublicServer> <Spike> start with yourself explaining why trains stop there ;) 19:53:49 <PublicServer> <Spike> not calling this blocking blablabla 19:54:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> meh 19:54:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> it is just a normal overflow 19:54:30 <PublicServer> <Spike> i recognize normal overflows :D 19:54:36 <PublicServer> <Spike> this isn't normal :D 19:54:43 <PublicServer> * avdg wants an overkill 19:54:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> =( 19:56:29 <PublicServer> <BigB> my coal trains are going :D 19:56:51 *** mixrin has quit IRC 19:57:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> we are fucked 19:57:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> industries are dying 19:58:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> without a reason 19:58:14 <PublicServer> <avdg> needs to be feeded? 19:58:20 <V453000> !rcon set raw_industry_construction 19:58:20 <PublicServer> V453000: Current value for 'raw_industry_construction' is: '2' (min: 0, max: 2) 19:58:22 <V453000> dont know 19:58:25 <V453000> !rcon set raw_industry_construction 1 19:58:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> this never was in FIRS 19:58:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> as far as tried 19:59:17 <VVG> there is a reason 19:59:24 <VVG> if you are talking about primaries 19:59:43 <PublicServer> <avdg> suply problems :/ 20:00:20 <VVG> supplying supplies's suply with supplies is the way to go! 20:00:35 <PublicServer> <BigB> read wat they say "this powerstation migth close unless coal or fuel are deliverd withing 30 months" 20:00:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> where did you read it 20:00:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> VVG 20:00:58 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 20:00:58 <PublicServer> *** avdg has left the game (desync error) 20:01:07 <avdg> I found it in the news history 20:01:09 <V453000> !password 20:01:09 <PublicServer> V453000: rankle 20:01:21 <avdg> hmmm 20:01:30 <VVG> irc, i was too frustrated repoloppling primaries, so i went ahead and hoped on #openttd, there andythenorth explained the innerworkings 20:01:43 <V453000> omg 20:01:49 <V453000> planetmaker 20:01:50 <V453000> ^ 20:01:53 <VVG> there was later a post in one of the topics on FIRS, don't remember which one 20:01:55 *** sparr has joined #openttdcoop 20:01:58 <VVG> after 0.2 was released 20:02:00 <PublicServer> <avdg> waiting clients :/ 20:02:06 <VVG> might look it up if you need 20:02:12 <V453000> no, thanks 20:02:14 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 20:02:15 <PublicServer> *** avdg joined the game 20:02:16 <PublicServer> <avdg> finally 20:02:22 <V453000> All I need to know is that it is fucked that way 20:02:28 <PublicServer> *** avdg has joined company #1 20:02:32 <VVG> not really 20:02:35 <planetmaker> ? 20:02:51 <V453000> seems like the industries die 20:02:55 <V453000> andythenorth said that 20:02:58 <V453000> VVG sayz :) 20:03:00 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 20:03:02 <VVG> primary needs atleast 1t of supplies each month, if it has them - it has a chance to grow. 20:03:14 <VVG> if it does not - it lowers production and eventually dies out 20:03:33 <VVG> once you have established frequent service of supplies - they easily grow up to 1k 20:03:42 <PublicServer> <BigB> then we need enginering suppyl's 20:03:52 <^Spike^> so basicly it's first get the supplies going before we do the rest 20:03:56 <VVG> so, low capacity freqeunt end delivery is the way to go 20:04:04 <PublicServer> <avdg> yeah 20:04:16 <PublicServer> <avdg> and hoping no1 will spam the network 20:04:33 <V453000> riight 20:04:46 <VVG> i have sp firs game, i haven't closed primaries in 200 years now, if i delivery supplies 20:04:49 <PublicServer> <avdg> I don't think the network can handle many diffrend types of industries on mass scale 20:05:07 <PublicServer> <Spike> avdg you didn't see the PZ game then :) 20:05:26 <PublicServer> <avdg> I guess not 20:05:31 <planetmaker> VVG, V453000 well. Then supplies are needed 20:05:35 <planetmaker> we're coop 20:05:36 <V453000> yea 20:05:38 <^Spike^> let's see which one it was 20:05:39 <planetmaker> we can deal with it 20:05:44 <V453000> which will make this game hell :) 20:05:45 <VVG> in fact, i fisrt establish supply loop, wait for industry to grow, then connect it :) 20:05:51 <PublicServer> <avdg> :) pm with the positive feeling 20:05:55 <V453000> but for now I have to go sleep ... waking up at 5 a.m. 20:06:05 <planetmaker> oh uh 20:06:08 <planetmaker> good night V453000 20:06:14 <VVG> It should'nt be a hell. machine shop is overproducing actually. 20:06:15 <PublicServer> <BigB> going to bed to :D 20:06:20 <^Spike^> PZ9 avdg 20:06:24 <V453000> we will see 20:06:32 <V453000> Spike: PZ9 is with old firs 20:06:32 <VVG> of crouse, if you use 120t trains for end delivery, it might not be enough :) 20:06:33 <PublicServer> <BigB> were is the machine shop ? 20:06:43 <PublicServer> <avdg> I sleep arround 1-2am to get up 6am :p 20:06:54 <PublicServer> <avdg> I won't recommend others to do that 20:07:05 <V453000> well I need to drive then, so ... 20:07:08 <Vitus> Back, took a while 20:07:08 <PublicServer> <BigB> sounds familiar 20:07:22 <Vitus> Hey V., I have to get up at 5 AM too :D 20:07:28 <V453000> hehe 20:07:32 <V453000> well cya tomorrow :) 20:07:39 <PublicServer> <avdg> cya 20:07:40 <PublicServer> <BigB> <-- has vacation 20:07:45 <Vitus> I won't see you for two weeks :P 20:07:51 <Vitus> Well, till next Sunday 20:08:00 <PublicServer> * avdg has to wait 1 week be4 vacation 20:08:39 <PublicServer> <BigB> awww 20:09:12 <PublicServer> <BigB> so were are those supplies produced 20:09:56 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 20:10:31 <VVG> look at train yard, there should be a proper train 20:11:16 <VVG> it should go to your SLH transfer station, from there you some small vehicles for end delivery 20:11:39 <PublicServer> <BigB> ok 20:12:11 <PublicServer> *** Gnemo has left the game (leaving) 20:12:15 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 20:12:27 <VVG> from my experience i recommend using XPR Ultima road vehicle for end delivery, from transfer to industry. It has low capacity of 14t and decent speed of 125 kmh. 20:13:01 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop 20:13:03 <PublicServer> *** avdg has left the game (desync error) 20:13:05 <PublicServer> <BigB> still trying to figure out were enginering supplies are made xD 20:13:08 <avdg> ... 20:13:13 <VVG> 1 vehicle should be enough for up to 30 tiles of one way ride. 20:13:22 <VVG> somewhere at center 20:13:29 <VVG> there is a ENG SUPPLIES PICKUP 20:14:25 <PublicServer> <BigB> thats not gonna happen anytime soon :C 20:15:24 <VVG> Mind that primaries use up ALL avaible supplies, once a month. That's why with low capacity you don't need a lot of them as long as you deliver them frequently. Best case - once a month. 20:15:34 <VVG> Then they will grow very fast 20:15:35 <PublicServer> *** avdg joined the game 20:16:01 <PublicServer> <BigB> there are no supplies made 20:16:14 <PublicServer> <BigB> so first need to get steel and fuel oil there 20:16:19 <PublicServer> *** avdg has joined company #1 20:16:29 <VVG> there were last time i checked. It's just not much of them probably are made there atm. 20:16:38 <VVG> Check what production value MachineShop has. 20:17:02 <VVG> !password 20:17:02 <PublicServer> VVG: tauter 20:17:19 <PublicServer> *** VVG joined the game 20:17:33 <PublicServer> <BigB> machine shop is producing 0 20:17:50 <PublicServer> <BigB> nvm 20:18:01 <PublicServer> <BigB> it got some this month 20:18:02 <PublicServer> <VVG> there, a big number of 232! 20:18:17 <PublicServer> <VVG> that sure is not enough for this map 20:21:49 <PublicServer> *** BigB has left the game (leaving) 20:22:40 *** Bigb has quit IRC 20:23:55 <PublicServer> *** avdg has joined spectators 20:25:23 <PublicServer> *** VVG has left the game (leaving) 20:36:10 <VVG> Do i need to sign a primary station, if i connect it to someone's else slh? 20:36:17 <Razaekel> yes 20:37:15 *** theholyduck has quit IRC 20:37:22 *** magni has joined #openttdcoop 20:37:55 <magni> @quickstart 20:37:58 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 20:41:27 *** Osai^2 has joined #openttdcoop 20:41:27 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Osai^2 20:42:03 *** Nickman_87 has joined #openttdcoop 20:42:27 *** XeryusTC2 has joined #openttdcoop 20:43:15 *** welterde has quit IRC 20:43:15 *** Nickman87 has quit IRC 20:43:15 *** Osai has quit IRC 20:43:15 *** XeryusTC has quit IRC 20:43:15 *** bartavelle has quit IRC 20:43:15 *** Nickman_87 is now known as Nickman87 20:43:23 *** magni has quit IRC 20:44:37 *** XeryusTC has joined #openttdcoop 20:44:37 *** bartavelle has joined #openttdcoop 20:44:37 *** magnet.oftc.net sets mode: +ov XeryusTC XeryusTC 20:44:43 <Webster> The third coop bot 20:45:02 *** XeryusTC has quit IRC 20:45:48 *** welterde has joined #openttdcoop 20:46:47 *** asnoehu has quit IRC 20:50:15 <PublicServer> *** Benom joined the game 20:51:53 *** Macha has joined #openttdcoop 20:52:00 <Macha> Hi all 20:52:49 <Macha> !players 20:52:50 <VVG> hiya 20:52:51 <PublicServer> Macha: Client 71 is Benom, a spectator 20:52:51 <PublicServer> Macha: Client 67 is avdg, a spectator 20:52:51 <PublicServer> Macha: Client 52 (Orange) is Spike, in company 1 (Coopers #188) 20:52:55 <Macha> !password 20:52:55 <PublicServer> Macha: tigers 20:53:12 <PublicServer> *** Macha joined the game 20:54:47 <PublicServer> *** Benom has left the game (connection lost) 20:56:16 <Macha> How long do prios need to be? Shouldn't they be as long as the TL? 20:58:21 *** asnoehu has joined #openttdcoop 20:58:24 <PublicServer> <Macha> Damn, seem to be too late to build any good SLs :( 20:58:42 <VVG> I recall planetmaker mentioning 2*TL + 2 for prios 20:58:56 <VVG> not sure myself 20:58:59 <PublicServer> <Macha> Oh, damn :( 20:59:16 <PublicServer> <Macha> How come? Surely that just means a lot of extra waiting? 20:59:41 <VVG> it surely means that ML flow won't be stopped or delayed. 20:59:49 <VVG> Ml come first 21:00:16 *** asnoehu has quit IRC 21:00:19 <VVG> If you are talking about BBHs, then it's different 21:01:00 <VVG> Then copy V's or Vitus' or someone else knowledgable work :) 21:02:05 * Macha actually managed to build a BBH last game. I was so proud. And it wasn't totally rebuilt! Yay :P. Considering two or three games ago I was afraid to build a station :P 21:03:25 <VVG> Hee. Then you should now proper prio's lenght :9 21:04:43 <planetmaker> [22:58] <VVG> I recall planetmaker mentioning 2*TL + 2 for prios <-- yes, it's a good rule of thumb. It can be amended slightly, depending upon train speed and acceleration 21:05:08 <planetmaker> might be too little for short maglevs 21:05:22 <planetmaker> and slightly too long for long slow trains 21:05:29 <VVG> o_0 21:05:34 <VVG> What about current game? 21:05:47 <planetmaker> TL=5, right? I think it's right 21:06:07 <Lukeus_Maximus> that is correct 21:06:10 <VVG> 12 tiles prio seems a bit long to me. Though i lack proper expirience 21:06:21 <planetmaker> they're not under-powered either. so yes 21:06:54 <planetmaker> VVG: well... my suggestion: build them now with 12 tiles 21:07:04 <VVG> :) 21:07:09 <planetmaker> and when the tracks get full to actually have prios affect the game: 21:07:11 <planetmaker> test it 21:07:18 <VVG> I have some fixing to later... 21:07:19 <planetmaker> reduce it by one. by two 21:07:22 <planetmaker> and see what works 21:07:32 <VVG> to do* 21:08:52 <planetmaker> taking out a tile from an existing prio usually is much easier than the reverse... so building too long is easier fixed than the other way around 21:09:10 <PublicServer> <Macha> kk, expanding them at MSH 4-4 atm 21:09:27 <planetmaker> he. :-) 21:09:45 *** murr7y is now known as murr4y 21:09:49 <planetmaker> If you ask me, an MSH could either use BBH-style prios or SLH. Depending upon how important the main station is ;-) 21:09:59 <PublicServer> <Macha> And you need the bits going across every TL? 21:11:03 <planetmaker> say again? 21:11:30 <PublicServer> <Macha> Does it matter how often you get lines from the prio to the actual line? 21:11:40 <VVG> it does 21:11:51 <VVG> with tl 5 every 5 tiles it should be 21:12:13 <VVG> but since we have signals every 2 tiles, it's enough to place them every 4 tiles, as in every two signals 21:12:36 <VVG> you just have to make sure that prio is always triggered while a train travels through it 21:12:55 *** sparr has quit IRC 21:12:58 <planetmaker> ah that was the question. yes 21:13:09 *** sparr has joined #openttdcoop 21:14:59 <VVG> what is a suitable prio lenght at bbhs? 21:17:10 <planetmaker> about a TL 21:17:20 <planetmaker> maybe even less 21:17:23 <Vitus> Doesn't have to be, though 21:17:25 <planetmaker> it really depends upion load 21:17:36 <Vitus> It mostly depends on how the hub is constructed 21:17:38 <VVG> good good 21:17:49 <VVG> my hubs should kinf of OK then :P 21:18:01 <Vitus> Look at BBH 01, that's all-to-all balancing w/o prios 21:18:22 <Vitus> My hubs have small prios to help the balancers balance trains more intelligently :) 21:18:57 <PublicServer> <Macha> I made three of the prios longer on MSH 4-4, can't do anything about the last for now, are they right now? 21:18:58 <VVG> Mine all have something like 8 tiles prios 21:19:46 <Vitus> As I said, it mostly depends on how you want the hub to behave 21:20:09 <Vitus> I prefer shorter prios because trains on BBH should be more or less equal :P 21:20:21 <planetmaker> yep 21:20:37 <planetmaker> but if load is grossly inequal, it might require different ones 21:20:45 <planetmaker> you don't want a jam to evolve :-) 21:20:59 <Vitus> Yes, but you cannot know that until traffic starts flowing :) 21:21:09 <PublicServer> <Macha> Aluminium is not hugely important is it? So long prios for that? I haven't played FIRs before. 21:21:21 <VVG> It is very important :) 21:21:37 <VVG> All alu atm should go to machineshop as fast as possible i think. 21:21:41 <planetmaker> Vitus: very true :-) 21:22:09 <Macha> Ah, cut down the prio lengths from 12, 12 and 11 then? 21:22:56 <VVG> i would leave them for now as they are, later they can be ajusted to traffic 21:23:08 <Vitus> !password 21:23:08 <PublicServer> Vitus: piking 21:23:51 <PublicServer> *** Vitus joined the game 21:24:02 <PublicServer> <Vitus> What's new by the way? 21:24:28 <VVG> some slhs i think :) 21:25:11 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 21:25:14 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Fuco 21:25:21 <VVG> I found a post by andy where he says he disabled primary closure in nightly, after 0.2 was releaed, and that it is save-game safe for 0.2 21:25:47 *** asnoehu has joined #openttdcoop 21:26:50 <PublicServer> <Vitus> SL 09... 21:26:54 <PublicServer> <Vitus> /facepalm 21:26:55 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Really 21:27:16 <VVG> eh? 21:27:35 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Look at it 21:27:41 <VVG> !password 21:27:41 <PublicServer> VVG: mantle 21:27:59 <PublicServer> *** VVG joined the game 21:28:35 <PublicServer> *** Gnemo joined the game 21:28:59 <PublicServer> <VVG> He said he might be rusty :) 21:29:27 <PublicServer> <VVG> i'm really seeing anything here 21:30:41 <PublicServer> <VVG> ahha, i was looking at slh, no sl... 21:31:01 <PublicServer> <Vitus> SLH is OK 21:32:05 <PublicServer> <Vitus> They are not even signed 21:33:08 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Oh, it is signed 21:33:10 <PublicServer> <Vitus> BigB 21:35:13 <PublicServer> <VVG> hee 21:35:30 <PublicServer> <VVG> Vitus, i see you too use high capacity trains for supply subnetwork. 21:36:53 <PublicServer> <VVG> :) 21:37:00 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hmmm, maybe I could change it. But I'm affraid I don't have time now 21:37:01 <PublicServer> *** Vitus has left the game (desync error) 21:37:01 <PublicServer> *** VVG has left the game (desync error) 21:37:02 <PublicServer> *** Gnemo has left the game (desync error) 21:37:06 <Vitus> Again? 21:37:13 <Vitus> planetmaker? :) 21:37:23 * Macha survived :P 21:37:28 <gnemo> !password 21:37:28 <PublicServer> gnemo: mantle 21:37:32 <VVG> lucky 21:37:40 <Vitus> I'll have to go anyways 21:37:48 <Vitus> Will be back next sunday :) 21:37:50 <Vitus> Have fun 21:37:51 <PublicServer> *** Gnemo joined the game 21:37:55 <PublicServer> <avdg> :) client survived 21:37:56 <VVG> cu 21:38:09 <PublicServer> *** avdg has joined company #1 21:38:12 <Vitus> Good night 21:38:14 *** Vitus has quit IRC 21:38:19 <PublicServer> <avdg> cya 21:38:22 <PublicServer> <avdg> :p 21:38:25 <PublicServer> <Macha> Will I try fix SL 9? 21:39:47 <VVG> If you feel like building, feel free to make SL 8 :) 21:40:09 <PublicServer> <avdg> I'm just watching :) 21:40:18 <PublicServer> <avdg> network monitoring 21:40:53 <VVG> the hub is almost done, only missing one splitter, whichi i left out for later depending on industries connected 21:42:24 <PublicServer> <Macha> kk 21:42:58 <asnoehu> !download 21:42:58 <PublicServer> asnoehu: !download autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|win32|win64|win9x 21:43:05 <asnoehu> !download win74 21:43:05 <PublicServer> asnoehu: unknown option "win74" 21:43:07 <asnoehu> !download win7464 21:43:07 <PublicServer> asnoehu: unknown option "win7464" 21:43:12 <asnoehu> !download win64 21:43:12 <PublicServer> asnoehu: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r20080/openttd-trunk-r20080-windows-win64.zip 21:44:11 <asnoehu> !password 21:44:11 <PublicServer> asnoehu: guffaw 21:44:19 <PublicServer> *** tycoondemon joined the game 21:44:34 *** asnoehu is now known as tycoondemon 21:52:43 <PublicServer> *** tycoondemon has left the game (desync error) 21:52:43 <PublicServer> *** Gnemo has left the game (desync error) 21:52:49 <PublicServer> <avdg> ... 21:53:16 <PublicServer> <avdg> tycoondemon, gnemo, can you descrive the last action? 21:53:22 *** Lukeus_Maximus has quit IRC 21:53:45 *** fish4475 has joined #openttdcoop 21:53:47 *** jondisti has joined #openttdcoop 21:54:20 <PublicServer> <avdg> just want to collect some data for that desync, wich is happing too much for me 21:54:32 <PublicServer> <avdg> *happening 21:54:37 *** fish4485 has joined #openttdcoop 22:01:46 *** fish4475 has quit IRC 22:02:24 <PublicServer> <avdg> found a heuge gap... did me think for a second if it was intentional (but strange, it was after a prioritized join) 22:04:40 <gnemo> I'm just watching atm 22:05:17 <PublicServer> <avdg> well, reconnect then :p 22:05:42 <gnemo> yeah, been busy helping my folks pack for a trip out of town 22:06:21 <gnemo> !password 22:06:21 <PublicServer> gnemo: impure 22:06:42 <PublicServer> *** Gnemo joined the game 22:06:48 <PublicServer> <avdg> do you know some actions before that disconnect? 22:07:02 <PublicServer> <avdg> just wondering 22:07:21 <PublicServer> <Gnemo> sorry was afk packing a laptop for travel 22:07:32 <PublicServer> <avdg> no problem :) 22:08:39 *** Progman has quit IRC 22:08:40 <PublicServer> <avdg> do you know where you was watching at that moment? (yeah, srr for the questions) 22:09:28 <PublicServer> <Gnemo> it's ok, as a game programmer I know where you are comming from 22:09:52 <PublicServer> <Gnemo> ummm... not sure 22:11:00 <PublicServer> *** Gnemo has left the game (connection lost) 22:11:22 <gnemo> that was a desync just now 22:11:27 <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm 22:11:45 <PublicServer> <avdg> its indeed happening too much 22:11:56 <gnemo> !password 22:11:56 <PublicServer> gnemo: crests 22:12:23 <PublicServer> *** Gnemo joined the game 22:14:02 <PublicServer> <Gnemo> placed a sign where I was looking at before desync 22:14:25 <PublicServer> <avdg> heh 22:14:45 <PublicServer> <avdg> I expected something more 22:16:01 <PublicServer> <Gnemo> well that sign is at least in one of the corners of screen at the desync at one level zoom out 22:16:16 <PublicServer> <Gnemo> I was sorta looking away from my screen at the time 22:17:08 *** murr4y has quit IRC 22:17:56 *** murr4y has joined #openttdcoop 22:19:24 <PublicServer> <avdg> you could try to catch an error with the command "debug_level desync=5" 22:19:35 <PublicServer> <avdg> just in case :p 22:20:07 <PublicServer> <Gnemo> type that in the console now? 22:20:15 <PublicServer> <Gnemo> or after another desync? 22:21:25 *** Yso has quit IRC 22:22:15 <avdg> now 22:22:38 <avdg> openttd doesn't safe these errors, so far as I know 22:23:07 <PublicServer> <Macha> Built SL08, signalling time 22:23:41 *** jondisti has quit IRC 22:24:45 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 22:25:44 <PublicServer> <avdg> :) 22:27:37 <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm 22:29:28 <PublicServer> <avdg> :p 22:29:43 <PublicServer> <avdg> it looks like its been hacked now 22:29:54 <PublicServer> <Macha> Won't trains using that last track block trains on the second bridge? 22:30:13 *** theholyduck has joined #openttdcoop 22:30:46 <PublicServer> <avdg> is it a main station? 22:31:06 <PublicServer> <avdg> if not, I want to move that connection a bit 22:31:06 <PublicServer> *** Barbaar joined the game 22:31:12 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> hey guys, hows it going? 22:31:14 <PublicServer> <avdg> to prevent problems 22:31:17 <PublicServer> <avdg> hey barbaar 22:31:26 <PublicServer> <Macha> It's not, just a primary 22:31:33 <PublicServer> <Macha> is* just a primary 22:31:46 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop 22:31:51 <PublicServer> <avdg> k, we'll connect it later 22:31:57 *** Max| has joined #openttdcoop 22:32:02 <PublicServer> <avdg> it has a lower priority 22:32:14 <PublicServer> <avdg> and I don't want a spaghetti junction 22:32:27 <Chris_Booth> spaghetti is fun 22:32:40 <PublicServer> <avdg> so long you can eat it :p 22:33:20 <PublicServer> <avdg> beh.. I'm off... gn 22:33:31 <PublicServer> <avdg> gl with the further construction 22:33:40 <PublicServer> *** avdg has left the game (leaving) 22:34:11 <VVG> !password 22:34:11 <PublicServer> VVG: sicker 22:34:23 *** avdg has left #openttdcoop 22:34:28 <PublicServer> *** VVG joined the game 22:36:22 <Macha> Actually, I have to go now too 22:37:17 <PublicServer> <Macha> Bye all, sorry for the the state of SL09 by Brirpalv farm, will fix tomorow if it's still bad. 22:37:23 <PublicServer> <VVG> If you don't mind, i might finish some things. When i feel like building 22:37:26 <PublicServer> <VVG> er, bye 22:37:38 <PublicServer> <Macha> Go ahead. 22:37:55 <Macha> Bye 22:37:59 *** Macha has quit IRC 22:38:02 <PublicServer> *** Macha has left the game (connection lost) 22:39:27 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> slow poke incoming? 22:39:47 <Chris_Booth> yes 22:39:55 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 22:40:27 *** pugi has quit IRC 22:41:22 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> is MSH 02 meant to be missing a connection or is it incomplete? 22:41:43 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> a or b? 22:42:02 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> b 22:42:36 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> msh 02a is fine 22:43:31 *** fish4485 has quit IRC 22:43:39 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> no way from north to west right? 22:43:45 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> correct 22:44:05 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> hard to place with that mountain there 22:44:21 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> it still needs to be there i think 22:45:27 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> OMFG @ BigB and his line @ SLH 09 :'( 22:45:52 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> hah yeah, was just looking at that 22:46:35 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> should that part even be connect to slh 9? 22:47:14 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> not realy should have an SLH between BBH 04 and BBH 10 22:47:24 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> yeah, thought so 22:47:40 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> bit tight on space there though 22:48:05 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> who killed my trains @ lower Stómstad and that area? 22:54:09 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (leaving) 22:54:47 <PublicServer> *** Barbaar has left the game (leaving) 22:56:14 <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game 22:58:27 <Davelister> !password 22:58:27 <PublicServer> Davelister: pauper 22:58:51 <PublicServer> *** Davelister joined the game 22:58:58 <PublicServer> <Davelister> hello world 22:58:59 <PublicServer> *** Gnemo has left the game (connection lost) 22:59:01 <PublicServer> <VVG> hi 22:59:12 <PublicServer> <Mazur> So, VVG, how are we doing? 22:59:29 <PublicServer> <VVG> badly 23:00:03 <PublicServer> <VVG> we are low on supplies, very very low 23:01:41 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Se we need to fooed gthe manufacuting plant? 23:01:44 <PublicServer> <Mazur> feed 23:02:30 *** ^Spike^ has quit IRC 23:02:40 <PublicServer> <VVG> we need lots of primaries supplying alu plant, still mill and oil refinery. Those 3 in turn will supply machine shop. 23:03:07 <PublicServer> <VVG> But we need machine shop working it's ass off to have lots of primaries with good prod values. :) 23:03:10 *** theholyduck has quit IRC 23:03:39 <PublicServer> <Mazur> And not dying off depite being serviced, anymore. 23:03:50 <PublicServer> <VVG> they die off because they have no supplies 23:04:00 <PublicServer> <VVG> service rating doesn't matter in firs 0.2 23:04:03 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yep. 23:04:23 <PublicServer> <VVG> the only thing that matters is 1t of supplies every month 23:04:34 <PublicServer> <VVG> that's all they need 23:04:40 <PublicServer> <Mazur> So we need iron ore, bauxite and much, much oil. 23:04:47 <PublicServer> <VVG> atleast mines, of them i'm sure 23:05:08 <PublicServer> <VVG> lots of coal and scrap metal will do too 23:06:51 <PublicServer> *** Davelister has left the game (leaving) 23:06:56 *** gnemo has quit IRC 23:07:16 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hmm, Trippsala Annexe has supplies, burt no trains getting the oil out. 23:07:51 <PublicServer> <Mazur> And the >Supplies station has not been connected. 23:12:48 <PublicServer> <VVG> Why use 2 different stations as sideline trasfer station? 23:13:09 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Engineering Supplies and Farming Supplies? 23:13:14 <PublicServer> <VVG> yup 23:13:39 <PublicServer> <VVG> think i got it 23:13:57 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Because it's easier to keep things separated. 23:18:32 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hm, my brain is still frozen, can;t figurfe out how Trippxsala Annexe is supposed to be. 23:21:24 *** asnoehu has joined #openttdcoop 23:21:36 *** tycoondemon has quit IRC 23:21:38 *** asnoehu has quit IRC 23:21:42 <PublicServer> <VVG> it's connected all right 23:22:29 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes, but hte small supplies thingy, how should that be? I made it into a separat4e station. 23:22:53 <OwenS> Yay! Just watched them put the new cap on the Deepwater Horizon stack 23:22:54 <PublicServer> <VVG> just run a RV instead of trains 23:23:01 <PublicServer> <VVG> like i did at sl8 23:23:18 *** asnoehu has joined #openttdcoop 23:23:25 <PublicServer> <VVG> those 2 tile trains with 120t capacity are WAY WAY WAY overkill 23:24:03 <PublicServer> <VVG> we just loose supplies with them, that might help grow some other industry 23:24:06 <PublicServer> <Mazur> But look at hte trains of Thhe Annexe. It has the three nearby supplies trains as its own.\ 23:24:39 <PublicServer> <VVG> which one? 23:24:52 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Trippsala Annexe. 23:25:09 <PublicServer> <VVG> obviously it's done wrong :) 23:25:40 <PublicServer> <Mazur> That's what I mean, but my brain is not functioning. 23:26:03 <PublicServer> <Mazur> And that oil could be usefuel, 23:26:46 <PublicServer> <Mazur> And oil wells are so prone to disappearing. 23:27:18 <PublicServer> <VVG> all primaries are, without supplies 23:27:37 <PublicServer> <VVG> with them they grow VERY fast to max production 23:27:45 <PublicServer> <VVG> just deliver atleast 1t every month 23:28:04 *** benom has quit IRC 23:30:20 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Well, I should not build now, my head feels like rotting cotton. 23:33:10 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 23:36:35 *** benom has joined #openttdcoop 23:38:24 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (desync error) 23:38:25 <PublicServer> *** VVG has left the game (desync error) 23:38:34 <VVG> bah 23:38:41 <Mazur> Indeed. 23:39:03 <VVG> it's a sign 23:39:58 <Mazur> Yes, for me to go read a bit and to bed, or something. 23:44:49 *** mixrin has quit IRC 23:50:35 <Razaekel> owens, how long before the cap fails? 23:50:49 <OwenS> Razaekel: Things are looking good 23:52:35 <OwenS> Razaekel: Interesting sticker on the side. "Transocean\n THINK twice, Act once!!" 23:57:51 *** Barbaar has quit IRC