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:) 10:44:57 <V453000> few days 10:45:02 <V453000> I think we can start building tonight 10:45:30 <greenlion> great news 10:55:18 *** slaca has quit IRC 10:55:49 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 10:55:49 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 11:13:39 *** benom has quit IRC 11:15:35 *** Vitus has joined #openttdcoop 11:16:38 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 11:16:38 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 11:18:11 *** TheODM has joined #openttdcoop 11:18:58 *** TheODM has quit IRC 11:20:06 *** Benom has joined #openttdcoop 11:24:49 *** robotboy has joined #openttdcoop 11:27:18 <V453000> ¿query Vitus 11:27:30 <V453000> he 11:47:05 *** Benom has quit IRC 11:48:31 <V453000> !password 11:48:31 <PublicServer> V453000: lilacs 11:48:36 <Webster> Latest update from blog: Advanced Building Revue 07: Stations <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2010/09/28/advanced-building-revue-07-stations/> 11:48:45 <V453000> \o/ :P 11:48:46 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 11:48:59 <V453000> any feedback on ABR 07 welcome :) 11:49:45 *** robotboy has quit IRC 12:25:00 *** Sylf has joined #openttdcoop 12:34:44 *** Firartix has quit IRC 12:42:31 *** robotboy has joined #openttdcoop 13:09:25 *** Sylf has quit IRC 13:09:29 *** Sylf has joined #openttdcoop 13:22:07 *** robotboy has quit IRC 13:29:10 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 13:32:08 *** Sylf has quit IRC 13:32:11 *** robotboy has joined #openttdcoop 13:37:23 *** Sylf has joined #openttdcoop 13:39:00 *** Sylf_mobile has joined #openttdcoop 13:53:12 *** kuch3n has joined #openttdcoop 13:55:45 *** robotboy has quit IRC 14:00:15 *** kuch3n_ has quit IRC 14:11:08 *** Firartix has joined #openttdcoop 14:45:17 *** robotboy has joined #openttdcoop 14:58:32 *** TheRisen has joined #openttdcoop 14:58:52 <TheRisen> !password 14:58:53 <PublicServer> TheRisen: lilacs 14:59:02 <PublicServer> *** TheRisen joined the game 14:59:52 <PublicServer> *** TheRisen has left the game (leaving) 15:00:00 <V453000> hi :) 15:00:04 <TheRisen> hey 15:00:10 <V453000> we might want to start building tonight I guess 15:00:23 <TheRisen> hehe 15:00:31 <TheRisen> seems like we have a clear winner this time 15:00:41 <V453000> quite :) 15:02:20 <TheRisen> but the same as always, the building starts and I have only little time 15:02:40 <V453000> :D 15:02:52 <V453000> btw look @ blog :P 15:04:05 <TheRisen> the station thing? 15:04:11 <V453000> sure :) 15:04:13 <TheRisen> let's have a look 15:11:06 <TheRisen> wow nice pics in there 15:11:20 <TheRisen> "do not copy, till u know what's going on" lol 15:18:39 *** Sylf has quit IRC 15:18:48 *** Sylf has joined #openttdcoop 15:28:27 <TheRisen> good work v 15:28:36 <TheRisen> a very nice article 15:28:37 <V453000> thx 15:49:30 *** thgergo has joined #openttdcoop 15:56:57 *** robotboy has quit IRC 16:07:56 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 16:10:27 *** kreda has joined #openttdcoop 16:30:27 *** Sylf_mobile has quit IRC 16:35:05 *** Sylf_mobile has joined #openttdcoop 16:40:57 <Mks> !password 16:40:57 <PublicServer> Mks: lilacs 16:41:22 <PublicServer> *** Mks joined the game 16:41:31 <PublicServer> *** Mks has left the game (leaving) 16:43:23 *** GecK has joined #openttdcoop 16:43:26 <GecK> hi 16:46:37 *** theholyduck has joined #openttdcoop 16:52:21 <Mks> hi 16:58:58 *** Intexon has joined #openttdcoop 16:59:47 <PublicServer> *** Intexon joined the game 17:01:06 *** Benom has joined #openttdcoop 17:10:06 *** Mazur has joined #openttdcoop 17:12:34 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 17:15:05 *** Sylf has quit IRC 17:15:15 *** Sylf has joined #openttdcoop 17:17:34 *** Progman has quit IRC 17:20:36 *** Cap_J_L_Picard has quit IRC 17:26:48 *** Yexo has quit IRC 17:27:06 *** Yexo has joined #openttdcoop 17:30:55 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 17:30:57 <PublicServer> *** ryx joined the game 17:33:46 <ryx> I'm looking forward to building 17:34:01 <ryx> lots of stations. my station-fu really needs work 17:36:51 <PublicServer> *** ryx has left the game (leaving) 17:36:51 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 17:37:51 <ryx> btw, is the feeder ring in V's plan actually bidirectional? does that mean the feeder stations need to be too? 17:45:02 *** Sylf_mobile has quit IRC 17:50:09 *** DanielMurphy2 has joined #openttdcoop 17:50:26 *** DanielMurphy2 is now known as Franco 17:50:34 <Franco> !revision 17:50:34 <PublicServer> Franco: Game version is r20801 17:50:39 <Franco> !dl 17:50:40 <PublicServer> Franco: !dl autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|win32|win64|win9x 17:50:47 <Franco> !dl win64 17:50:47 <PublicServer> Franco: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r20801/openttd-trunk-r20801-windows-win64.zip 17:51:02 <Franco> oh hi, btw :) 17:54:21 *** Tray has joined #openttdcoop 17:54:56 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has joined spectators 17:57:38 <Tray> !password 17:57:39 <PublicServer> Tray: meddle 17:58:58 <PublicServer> *** Tray joined the game 18:00:20 <Franco> !password 18:00:20 <PublicServer> Franco: meddle 18:02:47 <Franco> !password 18:02:49 <PublicServer> Franco: meddle 18:02:50 <ryx> hi Franco 18:02:56 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 18:02:59 <PublicServer> *** Franco joined the game 18:04:39 <PublicServer> *** Franco has left the game (leaving) 18:04:39 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 18:05:31 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has left the game (connection lost) 18:05:51 <PublicServer> *** Tray has left the game (leaving) 18:06:10 <PublicServer> *** greenlion joined the game 18:06:32 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 18:06:33 <PublicServer> *** Tray joined the game 18:11:00 <V453000> !password for me please 18:11:00 <PublicServer> V453000: meddle 18:11:10 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 18:11:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 18:11:53 <PublicServer> <greenlion> hi there 18:12:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> gazelle \o/ 18:12:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> lets build 18:12:35 <PublicServer> <greenlion> yo 18:12:42 <V453000> @stage Building 18:12:43 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #194 (r20801) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Help testing! http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2010/09/23/testing-fs-3637-a-game-inviting-competition/" 18:13:29 <PublicServer> *** Tray has left the game (leaving) 18:13:32 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00006CF5: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00006CF5.png 18:14:30 *** Sylf has quit IRC 18:16:16 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 18:19:51 *** Sylf has joined #openttdcoop 18:21:16 <ryx> !password 18:21:16 <PublicServer> ryx: kinder 18:21:29 <PublicServer> *** ryx joined the game 18:21:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 18:21:52 <PublicServer> <ryx> hi everyone 18:22:46 <PublicServer> <greenlion> hi ryx 18:23:19 <PublicServer> <ryx> congrats on your vote greenlion 18:23:27 <PublicServer> <greenlion> hehe 18:23:38 <PublicServer> <ryx> I'll nuke my plan so it won't be in the way 18:24:12 <PublicServer> <ryx> heh, the inner ring will be fun with the lakes 18:24:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> should be fine 18:27:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> how do you like the rail set? :) 18:28:03 <PublicServer> * ryx likes 18:28:09 <PublicServer> <greenlion> nice 18:28:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> beer hardened 18:28:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> (czech) 18:28:33 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00009C18: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00009C18.png 18:29:34 <PublicServer> <ryx> hmm, a list of often-used grfs with screenshots would be good 18:29:40 <PublicServer> <ryx> I'm kinda lost sometimes 18:29:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> ? 18:30:39 <PublicServer> <ryx> I haven't really played much with grfs and and I spent quite a bit of time looking around what to use on my current single-player game 18:30:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> experiment 18:31:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> no otherway tbh 18:31:46 <PublicServer> <ryx> well, I think a review of the grfs with some screenshots would shorten the experimenting quite a bit 18:31:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> do some 18:32:01 <PublicServer> <ryx> that's what I was thinking 18:32:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> you will learn best when doing it 18:32:25 <PublicServer> <ryx> btw, is the feeder ring one-way or bidirectional? 18:32:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> but I dont really see a reson to do it 18:32:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> feeder? bi 18:32:35 <PublicServer> <ryx> oO 18:32:46 <PublicServer> <ryx> so the feeder drops will be too? 18:32:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> ofc 18:33:10 <PublicServer> <ryx> wow, that will be quite fun 18:34:48 <PublicServer> <ryx> I think I'll start on the GR S hub 18:34:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok 18:36:27 <PublicServer> <ryx> CL is 7-diagonal? how much is that in straight? Still only two bends in TL? 18:36:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> the same 18:36:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> and yes, only 2 18:36:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> if you are not sure, build for CL8 18:37:12 <PublicServer> <ryx> (because last game the straight-cl kinda was at 3) 18:37:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes it was kind of an exception 18:38:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> at !cl test 18:38:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> straight is 6 18:40:02 *** kreda has quit IRC 18:41:02 <PublicServer> <ryx> wow, huge 18:41:04 <PublicServer> <ryx> oh well 18:41:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> well we have only few hubs 18:41:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> so they can be big 18:41:36 <PublicServer> <ryx> yup 18:41:43 <PublicServer> <ryx> and there's space outside 18:41:49 <PublicServer> <ryx> which way does the outer ring run 18:41:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> there 18:42:10 <PublicServer> <ryx> spokes will be a lot easier if it runs the other way or the spokes are drive-left 18:42:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> hmf 18:42:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> true 18:42:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> lets keep it this way 18:42:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> no matter 18:42:50 <PublicServer> <ryx> you're the architect 18:42:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> MSHs on outer are right handed this way 18:42:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> it is one or other 18:43:17 <PublicServer> *** Intexon joined the game 18:43:22 <PublicServer> <Intexon> hi guys 18:43:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 18:43:28 <PublicServer> <ryx> hi 18:43:33 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000B3CA: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000B3CA.png 18:43:55 <PublicServer> <ryx> so inner spokes drive-right? 18:44:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> of course not 18:44:22 <PublicServer> <ryx> ah k 18:44:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> inner left, outer MSHs right 18:44:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> it should be intuitive :) 18:45:26 <uliko> !password 18:45:26 <PublicServer> uliko: glazed 18:45:39 <PublicServer> *** uliko joined the game 18:46:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok, outer ML set up 18:50:18 <PublicServer> <uliko> Are the LLRR lines going from outer to inner drive on left as well? 18:50:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> ? 18:50:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> where? 18:50:54 <PublicServer> <uliko> At LV W Hub for example 18:51:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> this way 18:51:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> makes sense imo 18:51:26 <PublicServer> <uliko> Yes 18:51:34 <PublicServer> <uliko> But it's drive on left which is confusing :p 18:51:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> well 18:51:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> it isnt even a full hub 18:51:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> and it goes only into 1 station 18:51:55 <PublicServer> <uliko> I know 18:51:56 <als> !password 18:51:56 <PublicServer> als: glazed 18:51:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> so not much confusion imo 18:52:22 <PublicServer> *** als joined the game 18:52:57 <PublicServer> <greenlion> I'll try to make LV W hub, not sure what 'll came out of it :) 18:57:20 *** theholyduck has quit IRC 18:58:33 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00023CBF: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00023CBF.png 18:59:18 <PublicServer> <greenlion> gah, who sent invisible train to ML? 19:00:00 <PublicServer> <ryx> oO lol 19:00:36 *** jondisti has joined #openttdcoop 19:00:58 <PublicServer> <greenlion> ah, it was running on one of the plans and escaped, I guess 19:01:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> it ran over the fields? :D 19:01:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> I guess someone released it :p 19:01:18 <PublicServer> <greenlion> yeah :) 19:01:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> greenpeace can shove it :p 19:02:02 <PublicServer> <als> :P 19:02:19 <Tray> !password 19:02:19 <PublicServer> Tray: dicing 19:02:21 <PublicServer> <als> what terreform mode are we playing on? 19:02:23 <PublicServer> <ryx> thats what I meant with the lakes :) 19:02:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> Dutch mode 19:02:38 <PublicServer> <ryx> dutch? 19:02:39 <PublicServer> *** Tray joined the game 19:02:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> FLATTEN ALL 19:02:42 <PublicServer> <als> .. 19:02:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> nah, just as needed 19:02:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> for ML, even lakes go 19:02:48 <PublicServer> <ryx> lol 19:02:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> reasonably ... 19:02:57 <PublicServer> <als> Dutch mode, kill the sea? 19:03:03 <PublicServer> <greenlion> needed = all :) 19:03:15 <PublicServer> <ryx> more tea! 19:03:29 <PublicServer> <ryx> (green tea rocks) 19:06:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> heyy 19:06:23 <PublicServer> *** jond1sti joined the game 19:06:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> havent seen you in a while :) 19:06:47 <PublicServer> <ryx> if I do a standard 3->2 merger, should there be space for the trains to wait inside it? 19:06:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> most likely, ryx 19:07:11 <PublicServer> <ryx> yeah, I'm being stupid, thanks 19:07:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> feel free to ask even the stupidest things ;) 19:07:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> yw 19:07:49 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> V453000: yes, I've been busy 19:07:55 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> like i'm now 19:07:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> :( 19:08:11 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> but this looks like a nice map to play, maybe tomorrow 19:08:17 <PublicServer> <jond1sti> bye 19:08:19 <PublicServer> *** jond1sti has left the game (leaving) 19:08:25 *** jondisti has quit IRC 19:08:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> to the person who wrote !cl is a ..., TL is 3 btw 19:08:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> cyas :) 19:08:51 <PublicServer> <als> oh, well ryx ask dumb things. I do dumb thinks. 19:09:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> :D cause you dont ask :p 19:09:33 <PublicServer> <als> Well, it was just a sign.. 19:09:39 <PublicServer> <ryx> (but doing dumb things often is a better teacher than asking them...) 19:09:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> but dumb :p 19:11:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> all markings should be accurate now :) 19:12:21 <PublicServer> <ryx> aww, it's too long now 19:12:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> dynamite is easy :p 19:12:44 *** Sylf has quit IRC 19:13:33 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00017D10: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00017D10.png 19:13:49 *** Benom has quit IRC 19:16:18 <Tray> @gap 8 19:16:18 <Webster> Tray: For Trainlength of 8: <= 14 needs 2, 15 - 24 needs 3, 25 - 34 needs 4. 19:16:57 <ryx> @cl 230 19:16:57 <Webster> ryx: (cl <no arguments>) -- Returns full name and reference url (if defined) 19:17:02 <ryx> aww 19:17:14 <ryx> @help 19:17:14 <Webster> ryx: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. 19:17:35 <ryx> (yay, Webster is back!) 19:21:40 *** benom has joined #openttdcoop 19:24:08 *** Sylf has joined #openttdcoop 19:28:34 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000FC74: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000FC74.png 19:30:34 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has left the game (connection lost) 19:30:50 <PublicServer> *** als has left the game (leaving) 19:32:30 *** Sylf has quit IRC 19:33:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> network plan teleported to "safer" location 19:33:32 <PublicServer> <Tray> what does left-hand drive mean? 19:33:59 *** Intexon has quit IRC 19:34:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> that trains drive on the left side 19:34:14 <PublicServer> <Tray> Ah. 19:36:28 <XeryusTC> left hand side plan? 19:36:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> partly 19:36:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> come join :p 19:36:42 <XeryusTC> zomfg xD 19:37:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> only like a few lines are left handed, nothing to mess up things :) 19:37:21 <XeryusTC> !password 19:37:21 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: mooned 19:37:30 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 19:37:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> hyy 19:39:24 <PublicServer> <ryx> hmm, for GR S Hub I used the center of the Hub sign to place the line, now it's a bit to the west 19:39:34 <PublicServer> <ryx> is it fine or should I relocate a bit? 19:39:38 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 19:39:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> dude, no matter 19:40:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> its like ... 2 tiles? :D 19:40:09 <PublicServer> <ryx> k, just asking 19:40:16 *** Cap_J_L_Picard has joined #openttdcoop 19:40:17 <PublicServer> <ryx> it's about 10 I'd say 19:43:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> hmm you cant see shit under those electrifications :D 19:43:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> but they look nice :) 19:43:34 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00018D03: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00018D03.png 19:43:40 <PublicServer> <greenlion> I've just turned them off :) 19:43:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> well me too, just noting :) 19:44:18 <TheRisen> !password 19:44:18 <PublicServer> TheRisen: creaks 19:44:29 <PublicServer> *** TheRisen joined the game 19:44:31 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> hi there 19:44:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> hy 19:45:41 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (connection lost) 19:52:08 <Tray> @gap 3 19:52:08 <Webster> Tray: For Trainlength of 3: <= 9 needs 2, 10 - 14 needs 3, 15 - 19 needs 4. 19:57:25 <PublicServer> <greenlion> @gap 8 19:57:30 <greenlion> @gap 8 19:57:31 <Webster> greenlion: For Trainlength of 8: <= 14 needs 2, 15 - 24 needs 3, 25 - 34 needs 4. 19:58:34 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000188E8: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000188E8.png 20:02:45 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> how long should a prio be for tl 8? 20:02:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> about 12 20:03:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> trains accelerate fairly fast iirc 20:03:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> well maybe more 20:03:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> 16 is safe for sure 20:03:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> but well 20:03:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> use intuition :p 20:04:49 *** fmauneko has joined #openttdcoop 20:05:55 <PublicServer> <Tray> the empty train accalerate in ~4 tiles 20:06:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> empty :) 20:06:07 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> and the full? 20:08:29 *** HanziQ has joined #openttdcoop 20:08:31 <HanziQ> hi 20:08:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 20:08:36 <HanziQ> !password 20:08:36 <PublicServer> HanziQ: curios 20:09:04 <PublicServer> *** HanziQ joined the game 20:10:23 <PublicServer> <HanziQ> hm 20:10:29 <PublicServer> <HanziQ> that looks cool 20:10:51 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> indeed 20:13:14 <PublicServer> <greenlion> is my hub lame and ugly? or not? :) 20:13:34 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00003112: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00003112.png 20:13:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> the merger balancing is quite poor 20:13:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> but leave it this way 20:13:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> so you can see how it works out 20:14:01 <PublicServer> <greenlion> okay 20:14:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> although there are some CL issues 20:14:23 <PublicServer> <ryx> you mean the one for trains leaving the ring? 20:14:30 <PublicServer> <ryx> (I like to understand too) 20:14:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> ryx: both of them :) 20:15:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> the one for trains leaving outer ring is actually not that bad 20:16:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> btw who already discovered the new blog article? :P 20:16:14 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> me :-P 20:16:14 *** avdg has quit IRC 20:16:17 <PublicServer> <Tray> <- 20:16:19 <PublicServer> <ryx> I'm getting somewhat slowed by the oil refinery 20:16:27 <PublicServer> <ryx> me too 20:16:28 <PublicServer> <greenlion> me discovered, but not read all :) 20:16:34 <PublicServer> <HanziQ> oh, blog :D 20:16:36 <PublicServer> <ryx> only read about half so far 20:16:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> just wondering how people look at blog ;) 20:17:09 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 20:17:11 <PublicServer> <HanziQ> i need to put here some bell that will ring when something about OTTD comes out 20:21:24 <PublicServer> <HanziQ> ok, this is too cool for me 20:21:26 <PublicServer> *** HanziQ has left the game (leaving) 20:21:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> :O 20:21:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> :D 20:21:34 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> lol 20:21:35 <HanziQ> :) 20:22:13 <HanziQ> i think i'll go play something less logical 20:22:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> :D 20:22:29 *** valhallasw has joined #openttdcoop 20:22:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> tetries 20:22:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> -e 20:22:46 <PublicServer> <ryx> argh, one tile more space... 20:22:46 <Mazur> ttries? 20:22:56 <Mazur> Duno dat wan. 20:23:04 <Mazur> +n 20:23:08 <PublicServer> <greenlion> quake :) 20:23:19 <HanziQ> tetris? only in ascii 20:23:23 <HanziQ> :D 20:23:32 <HanziQ> _._ 20:24:22 <HanziQ> i think i'll stick with programming 20:24:29 <HanziQ> that's good for me 20:24:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> :/ 20:24:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> tends to be logical 20:24:47 <HanziQ> not so much 20:24:50 <HanziQ> :D 20:24:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok :D 20:24:58 <HanziQ> it's just creepy 20:28:34 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001DECC: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0001DECC.png 20:35:46 <TheRisen> @gap 8 20:35:46 <Webster> TheRisen: For Trainlength of 8: <= 14 needs 2, 15 - 24 needs 3, 25 - 34 needs 4. 20:36:46 *** Intexon has joined #openttdcoop 20:39:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> wow tray that is goint to be huge 20:39:20 <PublicServer> <Tray> Hrm. 20:39:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> this - that might be too far 20:39:27 <HanziQ> !password 20:39:27 <PublicServer> HanziQ: barley 20:39:44 <PublicServer> <Tray> Hrm. 20:39:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> try to bridge the ML if I could say 20:40:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> this-ish 20:40:07 <PublicServer> *** HanziQ joined the game 20:40:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> just an advice :p 20:40:38 <PublicServer> <Tray> I thought about that solution but decided to do something more unproblemetic. (; 20:40:40 <PublicServer> <Tray> Will do later. 20:40:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 20:40:49 <PublicServer> *** Intexon joined the game 20:41:16 <PublicServer> <ryx> any comments on my hub (GR S Hub) ? 20:43:35 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00012F00: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00012F00.png 20:44:08 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> does our engin have some trouble with steep hills? 20:44:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> ofc not 20:44:25 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> phew 20:48:36 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 20:49:34 <PublicServer> <greenlion> ryx, need priorities on your hub? 20:50:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> greenzebra the prio-monkey? :P 20:50:22 <PublicServer> <ryx> I'm not sure, since it's basically a MSH 20:50:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> ryx: so what :) 20:50:43 <PublicServer> <greenlion> V453000: :P 20:50:45 <PublicServer> <ryx> greenlion: if you feel like adding some, go ahead 20:51:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> ryx: priorities arent just making trains give way, but also a controller, to let us make trains join the correct line we want them to 20:52:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> might be the key knowledge puzzle that you have been missing ;) 20:52:28 <PublicServer> <ryx> you mean the PF prefers the lines that aren't prio-red? 20:52:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> umm that too 20:52:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> but you need the priorities to indicate if the line your train is trying to join is full or not 20:54:21 <PublicServer> <ryx> I'm still not sure if I understood 20:54:28 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 20:54:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> you know how a SLH works? 20:54:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> basically 20:54:43 <PublicServer> <ryx> yes 20:54:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> you have trains coming from the SL, giving way 20:54:50 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> nothing is ever allowed to interrupt the traffic on the mainline 20:54:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> quite 20:54:58 <PublicServer> *** HanziQ has left the game (leaving) 20:55:03 *** HanziQ has quit IRC 20:55:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> and when the trains choose, they need priorities to indicate if the line is full or not 20:55:29 <PublicServer> <Tray> estimated priolength for TL 3? 20:55:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> it is basically the same 20:55:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> Tray: depends :) 20:55:39 <PublicServer> <Tray> 5 or 6? 20:55:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> any 20:55:47 *** fmauneko has quit IRC 20:55:51 <PublicServer> <ryx> ok 20:55:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> 5 and 6 is the same ;) 20:55:59 <PublicServer> <Tray> Hrm. 20:56:05 <PublicServer> <Tray> But give a hint. 20:56:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> I would need to see where :) 20:56:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> 6 I think 20:56:59 *** Ramsus08191 has joined #openttdcoop 20:57:41 <PublicServer> <Tray> Thanks alot. 20:57:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> np :D 20:58:35 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00002D1A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00002D1A.png 20:58:55 <Ramsus08191> !password 20:58:56 <PublicServer> Ramsus08191: entice 20:59:11 <PublicServer> *** Ramsus08191 joined the game 20:59:14 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> Hello everybody 20:59:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh hi :) havent seen you in a while :) 20:59:23 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> hi 20:59:41 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> yup, been away for a while, but I am coming back 20:59:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> well, welcome back :p 21:00:16 <Ramsus08191> hehe, seen the past games, should hae been fun :D 21:00:24 <PublicServer> <Tray> Would !this cause any problems? 21:00:38 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> btw, nice articles on stations V 21:00:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> I actually wasnt playing much in the last games so I dont know that well :( 21:00:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> thx Ramsus08191 21:00:48 <PublicServer> <uliko> It works 21:00:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> Tray: why would it :) 21:00:55 *** Franco has quit IRC 21:01:15 <PublicServer> <Tray> dont know, bps, 2 signals in two tiles ... 21:01:25 <PublicServer> <Tray> Just wnated to be sure. 21:01:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> its fine :) 21:01:46 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> new icons, now I am lost again D: 21:02:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> opengfx has new icons? 21:02:22 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> yeap 21:02:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> or you mean the rail set 21:02:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh :) 21:02:42 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> they are cooler but I was used to the old one, readptation time 21:03:58 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> there is a shuriken on the center of your plan V :) 21:04:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> yarr 21:04:14 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> Ninja style 21:04:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> blender plan 21:04:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> will it blend? :P 21:04:30 *** asnoehu has quit IRC 21:06:21 <PublicServer> <Intexon> I'm off, good night 21:06:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> cya 21:06:25 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> n8 21:06:27 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> gn 21:06:29 <PublicServer> <ryx> night 21:06:37 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has left the game (leaving) 21:08:58 *** asnoehu has joined #openttdcoop 21:10:33 *** sharpy has joined #openttdcoop 21:10:38 <sharpy> !password 21:10:38 <PublicServer> sharpy: entice 21:10:48 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> hmm we have a dancinzerg 21:10:50 <PublicServer> *** sharpy joined the game 21:10:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> ultralisk 21:11:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi sharpy . 21:11:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> :p 21:11:09 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> hello 21:11:14 <PublicServer> <sharpy> aaaaah here we go 21:11:29 <PublicServer> <sharpy> hello 21:12:26 <PublicServer> <sharpy> are all the 4 central stations essentially the same? 21:12:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> if I understand your question, yes they are 21:13:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> only 2 are for LV and 2 for grain 21:13:14 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> cool depot as well 21:13:16 <PublicServer> <sharpy> yeah, awesome, same structure? 21:13:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> sure 21:13:31 <PublicServer> <sharpy> awesome 21:13:35 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000470E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000470E.png 21:13:37 <PublicServer> <sharpy> lets get hub building :D 21:13:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> yeey :p 21:14:21 <PublicServer> <ryx> I'll take the fourth one 21:14:25 <PublicServer> <sharpy> CL3? 21:14:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> ye 21:14:35 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> hmm why not make all the CLs 7? 21:14:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> ? 21:14:57 <PublicServer> <sharpy> interest, plan efficiency 21:15:11 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> I mean, CL 6 would work for one case but ppl would get confused and couse CL problems on the network.... 21:15:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 21:15:21 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> cause* 21:15:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> sure 21:15:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> happened in the last game too 21:15:35 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> yup 21:15:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> it is a good practice for us ;) 21:15:39 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> hmm 21:15:45 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> hahaha, ok ok 21:15:45 <PublicServer> <ryx> V, do the trains that enter a feeder drop need a choice in which direction they exit? 21:15:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> ryx: they return back where they came from 21:16:04 <PublicServer> <ryx> ok 21:16:06 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> at least I get the chance to sing my "CL busters" song here :D 21:16:08 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> i am already confused by the stuff i just built 21:16:14 <PublicServer> <Tray> Ah, that makes things easier. 21:16:14 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> have some mercy with me 21:16:40 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> I have to finish it yet.... 21:17:02 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> GR N done 21:17:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 21:17:52 *** Intexon has quit IRC 21:18:07 <PublicServer> <ryx> yay for mine disappearing at the right moment 21:19:49 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> I lost my almost ninja skills :/ 21:21:08 <PublicServer> <sharpy> am i assuming minimal tf? 21:21:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> as needed 21:21:28 <PublicServer> <sharpy> thank god 21:21:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> if you need higher, go for higher but make it look natural 21:21:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> for example ... 21:22:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> there was a medium sized lake under message board :p 21:22:12 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> alright, I made some signals explaining the CL thingies at !cl test, so that ppl can get aware 21:22:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> good :) 21:22:42 <PublicServer> <ryx> nice 21:23:04 <PublicServer> <ryx> I'm planning stuff on paper... 21:23:20 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> it can help 21:23:37 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> but paper has one problem: the missing 3rd dimension 21:23:51 <PublicServer> <sharpy> origami time 21:23:57 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> hehe 21:24:05 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> he said on paper, not with paper :D 21:24:07 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> lol 21:24:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> lol origami xD 21:24:48 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> I found a Hidralisk paper toy one time to make, it was cool 21:25:47 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> i really wonder if the thing i built will work properly 21:25:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> hope so :p 21:26:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> it looks good 21:26:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> but there are some CLs 21:26:20 <Mks> !password 21:26:21 <PublicServer> Mks: plucky 21:26:24 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> 1 21:26:26 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> prio over lake, hehe 21:26:32 <PublicServer> *** Mks joined the game 21:26:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi Mks :) 21:26:40 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> hi 21:26:42 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> 1 curve length at the tunnels 21:26:42 <PublicServer> <Mks> hiya 21:26:44 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> hi 21:26:52 <PublicServer> <Mks> wow that transfer station is big 21:27:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> we dont play small here :p 21:27:24 <PublicServer> <sharpy> size matters:p 21:27:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> ARR 21:27:34 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> ;) 21:27:38 <PublicServer> <Mks> wasn't the inner ring suppose to be 1 way? 21:27:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> no 21:27:46 <PublicServer> <Mks> or was it outer ML 21:27:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> outer 21:27:52 <PublicServer> <Mks> ahh 21:28:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> trains need to choose the sides in inner 21:28:30 <PublicServer> <Mks> mm almost the entire inner ring will be a hub :) 21:28:35 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002353C: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002353C.png 21:28:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> sure 21:28:53 <PublicServer> <Mks> 4 transfer hubs and 4 corner hubs 21:28:57 <PublicServer> <Mks> not much left :) 21:29:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> the game will most likely end when it really is one whole hub :) 21:29:19 *** Firartix has quit IRC 21:29:27 <PublicServer> <Mks> well the outer ML will have mm 8 hubs as well right? 21:29:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> yesd 21:29:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> but those have large amounts of space in compare 21:29:43 <PublicServer> <sharpy> literally, hubs everywhwere 21:30:07 <PublicServer> <sharpy> bollux, balance 21:30:09 <PublicServer> <sharpy> rage 21:30:13 <PublicServer> <Mks> true the outer ML less lines + more space 21:30:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> mainly more space :) 21:30:49 <ryx> will the inner corner hubs have diagonal lines going out? 21:31:06 <PublicServer> <Mks> isn't your inner hub a bit long bridges and only 2 considering tl 3? 21:31:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> ryx: about :) 21:31:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> Mks 21:31:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> cant see any wrong :) 21:32:09 <PublicServer> <Mks> well I guess it shouldn't be a problem anytime soon 21:32:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> not even later 21:32:31 <PublicServer> <ryx> how would two terminus stations for the feeder drop work? 21:32:33 <PublicServer> <Mks> not enough traffic you mean 21:33:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> ryx: define difference between roro and terminus :) 21:33:18 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> damn, getting moskitos with index and thumb finger is hard..... 21:34:22 <PublicServer> <ryx> a terminus has exit and entrance in the same spot and makes the trains reverse in the process 21:34:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok 21:34:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> and what is the difference related to your question 21:35:08 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> yay!, just did it ! 21:35:37 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> next level: hashis 21:36:45 <PublicServer> <ryx> I'm not sure how performant the station entrance needs to be with a TL3 drop with powerful trains 21:37:11 <PublicServer> <ryx> since a terminus has somewhat worse entrance/exit performance 21:37:45 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> hmm i can't see a a way to get rid of this CL 21:37:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> you have to :) 21:38:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> or 21:38:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> maybe not 21:38:06 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> it's just the joiner 21:38:08 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 21:38:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> iirc it is still 200kmh 21:38:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> which is fairly fine 21:38:18 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> press D and highlight the area 21:38:32 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> HAHA 21:38:36 <PublicServer> *** Mks has joined company #1 21:38:46 *** benom has quit IRC 21:38:48 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> it corrects everything 21:38:52 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> :D 21:39:04 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> but the throughput will be even worse after that 21:39:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> :d 21:39:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> leave it as it is :p 21:39:53 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> maybe i have a great idea while sleeping 21:39:58 <PublicServer> <TheRisen> gn8 guys 21:40:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> cya 21:40:06 <PublicServer> <ryx> n8 21:41:09 <PublicServer> *** TheRisen has left the game (leaving) 21:41:44 <PublicServer> *** avdg joined the game 21:41:47 *** TheRisen has quit IRC 21:41:50 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> hello 21:41:54 <PublicServer> <avdg> hey 21:41:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 21:42:16 <PublicServer> <sharpy> yo 21:43:35 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001E8BC: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0001E8BC.png 21:43:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> first transfer done \o/ 21:43:56 <PublicServer> <avdg> -_- "declared by himself" 21:44:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> anything wrong? 21:44:07 <PublicServer> <Mks> all the farms trains should they visit all the trasnfer stations? 21:44:17 <PublicServer> <avdg> not really 21:44:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> Mks: sure 21:44:32 <PublicServer> <Mks> like first A then B then C then D 21:44:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> no 21:44:44 <PublicServer> <avdg> but I just don't like it 21:44:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> N or S. E or W 21:44:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> GR/LV separate 21:44:59 <PublicServer> <ryx> grain and livestock have separate transfers 21:45:02 <PublicServer> <Mks> so not N + S + E +W 21:46:42 <PublicServer> <avdg> @tunnels 7 21:46:54 <PublicServer> <avdg> @tunnel 7 21:47:12 <avdg> @tunnel 7 21:47:12 <Webster> avdg: For Trainlength of 7: <= 13 needs 2, 14 - 22 needs 3, 23 - 31 needs 4. 21:47:27 *** Vitus has quit IRC 21:47:32 <PublicServer> <Mks> the trains are tl 8 21:47:44 <avdg> @tunnel 8 21:47:44 <Webster> avdg: For Trainlength of 8: <= 14 needs 2, 15 - 24 needs 3, 25 - 34 needs 4. 21:48:33 <PublicServer> <avdg> ctrl+ click :) 21:48:35 <PublicServer> <avdg> is faster 21:48:50 <PublicServer> <Mks> ohh 21:48:58 <PublicServer> <Mks> ohh didn't know that 21:49:06 <PublicServer> <avdg> ;-) 21:49:51 <PublicServer> <Mks> I guess it will be a day or two until any trains acually run here 21:49:55 <PublicServer> <Mks> or even more 21:49:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> for sure 21:50:44 <PublicServer> *** avdg has left the game (leaving) 21:51:00 <PublicServer> <Mks> corner hubs should also be LL+RR ? 21:51:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> ye 21:52:06 <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> ok, gn dudes 21:52:11 <avdg> gn 21:52:18 <PublicServer> <sharpy> adios 21:52:26 <PublicServer> *** Ramsus08191 has left the game (leaving) 21:52:32 *** Ramsus08191 has quit IRC 21:56:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> ryx: rather TF the lake than leave minimum space for the hub 21:57:13 <PublicServer> <ryx> I'm planning to terraform as I need space 21:58:28 <PublicServer> <Mks> I would have built the inner ML L1L1L*R1R1R1 21:58:36 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001D12F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0001D12F.png 21:58:40 <PublicServer> <Mks> thats almost how it will end up anyway with all the hubs 21:59:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> Mks: what is the difference then 21:59:19 <PublicServer> <Mks> well if its built that way from the begining its easier :) 21:59:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> not rly 21:59:31 <PublicServer> <Mks> a little 21:59:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> you usually still delete all of the ML and then put there the hub 21:59:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> and having them together makes the ML kind of smaller, butthat doestnt matter rly 22:00:09 <PublicServer> <Mks> ahh yes true ml gets a little smaller that way 22:00:22 <PublicServer> <ryx> what's the exact definition of gap? space between the signals? or does it include signals? 22:00:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> first 22:00:39 *** ODM has quit IRC 22:00:43 <PublicServer> <Mks> betwen signlas 22:00:51 <PublicServer> <Mks> shouldn't be longer then mm 2 right? 22:00:53 <PublicServer> <ryx> thanks 22:02:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> BTW 22:02:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> the 18 platforms arent a rule 22:02:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> I just used them 22:02:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> with different station style you might need other 22:02:30 <PublicServer> <ryx> I decided on a roro after all 22:02:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> nor they need to be this straight 22:02:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> or anything else 22:03:51 <PublicServer> <Mks> well I would say you built stations with 9 plattforms each :) 22:03:55 *** Deamonhunter11 has joined #openttdcoop 22:04:06 <PublicServer> <Mks> since they aren't linked 22:04:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> well people copy 18 22:04:39 <PublicServer> <Mks> hehe 22:04:52 <Deamonhunter11> !password 22:04:52 <PublicServer> Deamonhunter11: calmly 22:04:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> and to be honest, this is exactly how you shouldnt build a station :) 22:05:08 <PublicServer> *** Deamonhunter11 joined the game 22:05:11 <PublicServer> <Mks> why not? 22:06:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> I doubt they know what station are they building :p 22:06:09 <PublicServer> <ryx> whoever is building that station (it might be me) is free to rearrange 22:06:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> therefore you cant know how many lines 22:06:23 <PublicServer> <ryx> I just wanted to get afeeling for where to put the hubs 22:06:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> ryx: and what is the empty space in the middle going to be then :) 22:06:47 <PublicServer> <greenlion> V, so, why rely on that you knew :) 22:07:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> ? 22:07:14 *** mixrin has quit IRC 22:09:19 *** kreda has joined #openttdcoop 22:09:57 <PublicServer> <sharpy> don't you just hate 22:09:59 <PublicServer> <sharpy> when you think a hubs done 22:10:10 <PublicServer> <sharpy> and all of a sudden a thought creeps up on you 22:10:11 <PublicServer> <sharpy> PRIOS 22:10:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> you shouldve kept that in mind :) 22:10:47 <PublicServer> *** uliko has left the game (leaving) 22:10:51 <PublicServer> <sharpy> this is only my third hub ever, so its all fine :D 22:10:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh :) 22:11:47 <PublicServer> <Mks> seems like all the transfer stations will be mm terminus huh? 22:11:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> most likely 22:12:12 <PublicServer> <greenlion> as drawn in the plan :) 22:12:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> plan is a scheme, not station specification 22:12:41 <PublicServer> <Mks> but since cl mm 6? 22:12:49 <PublicServer> <Mks> a ro ro will take up alot of space 22:13:13 <PublicServer> <ryx> argh 22:13:36 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001CF2D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0001CF2D.png 22:13:42 <PublicServer> <ryx> complicated stuff is complicated 22:14:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> ryx: you are building one of the hardest things in this game, what do you expect :) 22:14:06 *** GecK has quit IRC 22:14:25 <PublicServer> <ryx> right now I'm building a stupid 3lane split and merge 22:14:28 <PublicServer> <ryx> divide and conquer works quite well 22:14:39 <PublicServer> <Mks> I prefer the connections to farms thats easy :) 22:14:59 <PublicServer> <ryx> especially with TL3, yay! 22:15:20 <PublicServer> <Mks> doesn't tl 3 makes it easier thought? 22:15:26 <PublicServer> <Mks> or well less space t least 22:15:26 <PublicServer> <ryx> thats what I meant 22:15:44 <PublicServer> <ryx> is my 'yay!' that ambiguous? 22:18:58 <PublicServer> <Mks> well V you think hubs are very easy to build right? 22:19:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> depends :) 22:19:21 <PublicServer> <Mks> you seem to find everything easy :) 22:19:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> meh 22:19:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> the outer ring hubs are easy indeed 22:19:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> inner are quite hard due to low space :) 22:20:13 <PublicServer> *** sharpy has left the game (connection lost) 22:20:14 <PublicServer> <Mks> well I would say your transfer stations is really easy for being you :P 22:20:25 <sharpy> !password 22:20:26 <PublicServer> sharpy: meeter 22:20:27 <PublicServer> <Mks> I saw last game you made some crazy station with mm 1000 bridges? 22:20:37 <PublicServer> *** sharpy joined the game 22:20:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> well I have some practice :p 22:20:55 *** pugi has quit IRC 22:22:27 <PublicServer> <Mks> who is building the east transfer ? 22:22:37 <PublicServer> <Mks> the station I mean 22:22:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> im wondering too 22:22:55 <PublicServer> <Tray> East is in the upper right? 22:22:57 <PublicServer> <Tray> I do. 22:23:13 <PublicServer> <Mks> LV E :) 22:23:19 <PublicServer> <Mks> upper mm right maybe :) 22:23:25 <PublicServer> <Tray> Oh. Yeah, get the point. 22:23:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> Tray: CL2 :p 22:23:41 <PublicServer> <Tray> Hrm ... 22:23:45 <PublicServer> <Tray> o: 22:24:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> greenlion: what now eh :p 22:24:34 <PublicServer> <sharpy> lol 22:24:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> I recommend to come with your own station :) 22:25:07 <PublicServer> <greenlion> V453000: thinking what to do with 6 input lanes :) 22:25:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> well you could merge each 3 into 2 22:25:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> then you get 4 22:25:31 *** kreda has quit IRC 22:25:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> with the 4 ... hmm ... easier? :p 22:25:36 <PublicServer> <Mks> and build like V 2 seperate stations 22:25:45 <PublicServer> <Mks> well same space ofc but 22:25:57 <PublicServer> <Mks> 2 at each mm 8 track station makes it easy 22:26:12 <PublicServer> <greenlion> well, may be 22:26:56 <PublicServer> <Mks> I've never built a 3 lane station 22:27:00 <PublicServer> <Mks> not sure how to build one 22:27:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> I guess best way is trying :) 22:27:37 <PublicServer> <Mks> well you could use the kinda of entrance V does ofc that works for 3 tracks 22:27:51 <PublicServer> <Mks> but mm is there any other way to build a 3 lane entrance mmm 22:28:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> of course there is 22:28:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> there is like a million ways 22:28:17 <PublicServer> <sharpy> someone feel like checking some prios? 22:28:36 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00023339: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00023339.png 22:28:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> me rather going for sleep mode 22:28:53 <PublicServer> <sharpy> fair 22:29:01 <PublicServer> <ryx> is the PBS-method of prioing after a bridge acceptable? 22:29:01 <PublicServer> *** sharpy has left the game (connection lost) 22:29:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> ryx: yes 22:29:16 <sharpy> !password 22:29:16 <PublicServer> sharpy: rewind 22:29:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> as the only reasonable usage of PBS 22:29:30 <PublicServer> <ryx> then I'll prefer that 22:29:50 <PublicServer> <ryx> because I think it's best to keep the path between the balancer and the merge with the ML as short as possible 22:30:06 <PublicServer> *** sharpy has left the game (connection lost) 22:31:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> BTW 22:31:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> the stations dont always require to be balanced 22:31:26 <PublicServer> <Mks> is there anyw to build a station entry where 3 lines can choice 2 or 3 plattforms without crossing eachother? 22:31:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> it would make good sense here though :)) 22:31:52 <PublicServer> *** sharpy joined the game 22:31:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> Mks: I am not entirely sure if I understand what are you talking about but I think it is 22:32:10 <PublicServer> <Mks> well like your station 3 tl entry 22:32:14 <PublicServer> <Mks> without the crossing track 22:32:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> ? 22:32:38 <PublicServer> <Mks> is that even possible in any efficent way? 22:33:00 <PublicServer> <ryx> V453000: I'm planning to not balance the split from the ML to the station, keeping it at 3 tracks and using the station entrance balancer 22:33:14 <PublicServer> <ryx> but I'm gonna balance the merge to ML after the exit 22:33:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> do what you think is right and what is reasonable 22:33:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> Mks: I really have no idea what are you talking about, sorry 22:33:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> which station? 22:34:15 <PublicServer> <Mks> V: I built a test station well its not working but maybe you'll get what I mean 22:34:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh 22:34:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> well 22:34:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> of course there is a way 22:34:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> but why would you need that 22:34:41 <PublicServer> <Mks> mm 22:34:46 <PublicServer> <Mks> crossing lines slow down :)( 22:34:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 22:34:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> and how do the platforms slow down? 22:35:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> the X will most likely have greater throughput than the 3 platforms 22:35:33 <PublicServer> <Mks> so you mean an X even with 3 tracks is alright? 22:35:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> depends, here I think it is 22:35:45 <PublicServer> <Mks> station won't realse trains fast enough for it to be a problem 22:36:08 <PublicServer> <Mks> I don't mind a 2 track X but mm 3? 22:36:18 *** kreda has joined #openttdcoop 22:36:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> you obviously dont know shit :p 22:36:40 <PublicServer> <Mks> I mean at high load ofc 22:36:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> do 3 platforms get high load? 22:36:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> it is like 1/2 line 22:37:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> the signal gap is like 4 22:37:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> which should be enough 22:37:15 <PublicServer> <ryx> I hate prios 22:38:31 <PublicServer> <Mks> also when doing an X mm isn't PBS a bit fast well as long as it doesn't lag ? :) 22:38:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> PBS doesnt lag, good to know 22:38:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 22:39:01 <PublicServer> <Mks> it doesn't with few trains :) 22:39:15 <PublicServer> <greenlion> 1-2? :) 22:39:19 <PublicServer> <Mks> haha 22:39:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> on PBS I have only one response :) and it isnt subtle :p 22:39:42 <PublicServer> <sharpy> do not enrage v about pbs 22:39:47 <greenlion> @gap 3 22:39:47 <Webster> greenlion: For Trainlength of 3: <= 9 needs 2, 10 - 14 needs 3, 15 - 19 needs 4. 22:39:50 <PublicServer> <Mks> I know he doesn't like pbs 22:40:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> he has reasons for it 22:40:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> and is now going to sleep 22:40:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> :p 22:41:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> cya tomorrow 22:41:02 <PublicServer> <ryx> night 22:41:09 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 22:41:10 <PublicServer> <greenlion> me too. gnight 22:41:12 <PublicServer> <sharpy> laters 22:41:34 <PublicServer> *** greenlion has left the game (leaving) 22:43:12 *** Fuco has quit IRC 22:43:22 *** smoovi has quit IRC 22:43:37 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00024338: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00024338.png 22:46:02 *** Deamonhunter11 has quit IRC 22:46:17 <PublicServer> *** Deamonhunter11 has left the game (connection lost) 22:48:24 *** kreda has quit IRC 22:49:29 <PublicServer> *** ryx has left the game (connection lost) 22:50:11 *** greenlion has quit IRC 22:50:17 *** ryx_ has joined #openttdcoop 22:50:28 <ryx_> !password please 22:50:29 <PublicServer> ryx_: scants 22:50:38 <PublicServer> *** ryx joined the game 22:51:26 *** Sylf has joined #openttdcoop 22:51:27 *** valhallasw has quit IRC 22:52:30 <Sylf> !password 22:52:30 <PublicServer> Sylf: scants 22:52:41 <PublicServer> *** Sylf joined the game 22:52:43 <PublicServer> <Sylf> howdy all 22:52:51 <PublicServer> <ryx> hi 22:52:53 <PublicServer> <sharpy> yo 22:56:36 *** ryx has quit IRC 22:57:11 <PublicServer> <Sylf> D: the big lake getting in the way of GR S hub 22:57:33 <PublicServer> <ryx> naw it's not 22:57:57 <PublicServer> <ryx> I'll draw you a plan 22:58:37 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001DA92: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0001DA92.png 22:58:41 <PublicServer> <Sylf> yeah, that's the part you're working on right now 22:59:32 *** ^Spike^ has quit IRC 22:59:36 <PublicServer> <ryx> plan done 22:59:41 <PublicServer> <ryx> it's right next to the station 22:59:43 <PublicServer> <Sylf> both way in? 22:59:52 <PublicServer> <ryx> trains leave the way they came 23:00:18 <PublicServer> <Sylf> i dun think they'll behave like that every time 23:00:26 <PublicServer> <ryx> they will 23:00:35 <PublicServer> <ryx> because they don't have the choice 23:00:45 <PublicServer> <ryx> (I asked V) 23:01:02 <PublicServer> <Sylf> are all platforms 1way? 23:01:08 <PublicServer> <ryx> yes 23:01:16 <PublicServer> <ryx> (on this station 23:01:28 <PublicServer> <ryx> (unless someone wants to build it differently) 23:01:31 <PublicServer> <Sylf> like that? 23:01:35 <PublicServer> <ryx> yes 23:01:39 <PublicServer> <Sylf> kk 23:01:43 <PublicServer> <ryx> but I don't claim the station (yet) 23:01:49 <PublicServer> <ryx> so far I'm just doing the hub 23:02:03 <PublicServer> <ryx> I searched a bit for the solution with minimal bridging 23:02:24 <PublicServer> <Sylf> I kinda wanted to work on inner NW hub 23:02:47 <PublicServer> <Sylf> I worked on it offline, trying to squeeze the hub on one side of the lake 23:02:51 <PublicServer> <Sylf> and it just won't fit 23:03:03 <PublicServer> <ryx> we bribed greenpeace 23:03:13 <PublicServer> <sharpy> terraforming is as needed 23:03:31 <PublicServer> <ryx> feel free to fill up another lake... 23:03:33 <PublicServer> <sharpy> a natural looking end product is all thats required 23:03:39 <PublicServer> <Sylf> I wanna see if I can make this side line go in a circle around the lake 23:03:41 <PublicServer> <sharpy> says V 23:03:46 <PublicServer> <ryx> (the message board for example was on a lake...) 23:06:39 <sharpy> right i am done 23:06:42 <sharpy> laters homies 23:06:47 <PublicServer> *** sharpy has left the game (leaving) 23:06:53 <PublicServer> <ryx> night 23:07:56 <PublicServer> *** Sylf has left the game (connection lost) 23:09:22 <PublicServer> <ryx> darn, my joiner is nowhere near as good as V's 23:09:32 <PublicServer> <ryx> but I dont just want to copy his 23:09:40 <PublicServer> <Mks> remove parts of the lake 23:09:54 <PublicServer> <ryx> that's not the problem 23:09:59 <PublicServer> <Tray> What's the problem with yours? 23:10:23 <PublicServer> *** Mks has left the game (connection lost) 23:10:25 <PublicServer> <ryx> it's just bigger 23:10:33 <Mks> !password 23:10:33 <PublicServer> Mks: carved 23:10:45 <PublicServer> <Tray> Well, but also quite well. 23:10:45 <PublicServer> *** Mks joined the game 23:11:33 <PublicServer> <ryx> hmmm 23:11:41 <PublicServer> <ryx> thanks 23:11:47 <PublicServer> <ryx> got an idea 23:12:34 *** thgergo has quit IRC 23:13:08 *** Sylf has quit IRC 23:13:17 *** Sylf has joined #openttdcoop 23:13:37 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001D897: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0001D897.png 23:14:37 <PublicServer> *** gerben joined the game 23:15:48 <PublicServer> *** Mks has left the game (connection lost) 23:15:53 <Mks> !password 23:15:53 <PublicServer> Mks: bleats 23:16:09 <PublicServer> *** Mks joined the game 23:17:33 <PublicServer> *** gerben has left the game (connection lost) 23:17:41 <PublicServer> <ryx> theere we go 23:17:54 <PublicServer> *** gerben joined the game 23:18:19 <PublicServer> <ryx> V's still has the advantage that the 3way splits are in one spot and can thus be presignalled 23:18:34 <PublicServer> *** gerben has left the game (connection lost) 23:20:15 *** madgerm has joined #openttdcoop 23:21:55 <PublicServer> <ryx> I'll go to bed. night 23:22:26 <PublicServer> *** ryx has left the game (leaving) 23:23:54 <PublicServer> *** gerben joined the game 23:28:37 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003A824: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003A824.png 23:35:40 <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game 23:36:27 <PublicServer> *** gerben has left the game (leaving) 23:41:43 <PublicServer> *** Mks has left the game (leaving) 23:43:38 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000210CC: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000210CC.png 23:51:58 *** Progman has quit IRC 23:58:38 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001E279: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0001E279.png