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10:43:31  <greenlion> how many weeks voting is going already, btw? :)
10:44:57  <V453000> few days
10:45:02  <V453000> I think we can start building tonight
10:45:30  <greenlion> great news
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11:27:18  <V453000> ┬┐query Vitus
11:27:30  <V453000> he
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11:48:31  <V453000> !password
11:48:31  <PublicServer> V453000: lilacs
11:48:36  <Webster> Latest update from blog: Advanced Building Revue 07: Stations <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2010/09/28/advanced-building-revue-07-stations/>
11:48:45  <V453000> \o/ :P
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11:48:59  <V453000> any feedback on ABR 07 welcome :)
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15:00:00  <V453000> hi :)
15:00:04  <TheRisen> hey
15:00:10  <V453000> we might want to start building tonight I guess
15:00:23  <TheRisen> hehe
15:00:31  <TheRisen> seems like we have a clear winner this time
15:00:41  <V453000> quite :)
15:02:20  <TheRisen> but the same as always, the building starts and I have only little time
15:02:40  <V453000> :D
15:02:52  <V453000> btw look @ blog :P
15:04:05  <TheRisen> the station thing?
15:04:11  <V453000> sure :)
15:04:13  <TheRisen> let's have a look
15:11:06  <TheRisen> wow nice pics in there
15:11:20  <TheRisen> "do not copy, till u know what's going on" lol
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15:28:27  <TheRisen> good work v
15:28:36  <TheRisen> a very nice article
15:28:37  <V453000> thx
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16:40:57  <Mks> !password
16:40:57  <PublicServer> Mks: lilacs
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16:43:26  <GecK> hi
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17:33:46  <ryx> I'm looking forward to building
17:34:01  <ryx> lots of stations. my station-fu really needs work
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17:37:51  <ryx> btw, is the feeder ring in V's plan actually bidirectional? does that mean the feeder stations need to be too?
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17:50:34  <Franco> !revision
17:50:34  <PublicServer> Franco: Game version is r20801
17:50:39  <Franco> !dl
17:50:40  <PublicServer> Franco: !dl autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|win32|win64|win9x
17:50:47  <Franco> !dl win64
17:50:47  <PublicServer> Franco: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r20801/openttd-trunk-r20801-windows-win64.zip
17:51:02  <Franco> oh hi, btw :)
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17:57:38  <Tray> !password
17:57:39  <PublicServer> Tray: meddle
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18:00:20  <Franco> !password
18:00:20  <PublicServer> Franco: meddle
18:02:47  <Franco> !password
18:02:49  <PublicServer> Franco: meddle
18:02:50  <ryx> hi Franco
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18:11:00  <V453000> !password for me please
18:11:00  <PublicServer> V453000: meddle
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18:11:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
18:11:53  <PublicServer> <greenlion> hi there
18:12:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> gazelle \o/
18:12:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> lets build
18:12:35  <PublicServer> <greenlion> yo
18:12:42  <V453000> @stage Building
18:12:43  *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #194 (r20801) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Help testing! http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2010/09/23/testing-fs-3637-a-game-inviting-competition/"
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18:21:16  <ryx> !password
18:21:16  <PublicServer> ryx: kinder
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18:21:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
18:21:52  <PublicServer> <ryx> hi everyone
18:22:46  <PublicServer> <greenlion> hi ryx
18:23:19  <PublicServer> <ryx> congrats on your vote greenlion
18:23:27  <PublicServer> <greenlion> hehe
18:23:38  <PublicServer> <ryx> I'll nuke my plan so it won't be in the way
18:24:12  <PublicServer> <ryx> heh, the inner ring will be fun with the lakes
18:24:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> should be fine
18:27:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> how do you like the rail set? :)
18:28:03  <PublicServer> * ryx likes
18:28:09  <PublicServer> <greenlion> nice
18:28:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> beer hardened
18:28:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> (czech)
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18:29:34  <PublicServer> <ryx> hmm, a list of often-used grfs with screenshots would be good
18:29:40  <PublicServer> <ryx> I'm kinda lost sometimes
18:29:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> ?
18:30:39  <PublicServer> <ryx> I haven't really played much with grfs and and I spent quite a bit of time looking around what to use on my current single-player game
18:30:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> experiment
18:31:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> no otherway tbh
18:31:46  <PublicServer> <ryx> well, I think a review of the grfs with some screenshots would shorten the experimenting quite a bit
18:31:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> do some
18:32:01  <PublicServer> <ryx> that's what I was thinking
18:32:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> you will learn best when doing it
18:32:25  <PublicServer> <ryx> btw, is the feeder ring one-way or bidirectional?
18:32:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> but I dont really see a reson to do it
18:32:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> feeder? bi
18:32:35  <PublicServer> <ryx> oO
18:32:46  <PublicServer> <ryx> so the feeder drops will be too?
18:32:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> ofc
18:33:10  <PublicServer> <ryx> wow, that will be quite fun
18:34:48  <PublicServer> <ryx> I think I'll start on the GR S hub
18:34:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok
18:36:27  <PublicServer> <ryx> CL is 7-diagonal? how much is that in straight? Still only two bends in TL?
18:36:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> the same
18:36:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> and yes, only 2
18:36:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> if you are not sure, build for CL8
18:37:12  <PublicServer> <ryx> (because last game the straight-cl kinda was at 3)
18:37:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes it was kind of an exception
18:38:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> at !cl test
18:38:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> straight is 6
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18:41:02  <PublicServer> <ryx> wow, huge
18:41:04  <PublicServer> <ryx> oh well
18:41:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> well we have only few hubs
18:41:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> so they can be big
18:41:36  <PublicServer> <ryx> yup
18:41:43  <PublicServer> <ryx> and there's space outside
18:41:49  <PublicServer> <ryx> which way does the outer ring run
18:41:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> there
18:42:10  <PublicServer> <ryx> spokes will be a lot easier if it runs the other way or the spokes are drive-left
18:42:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> hmf
18:42:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> true
18:42:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> lets keep it this way
18:42:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> no matter
18:42:50  <PublicServer> <ryx> you're the architect
18:42:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> MSHs on outer are right handed this way
18:42:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is one or other
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18:43:22  <PublicServer> <Intexon> hi guys
18:43:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
18:43:28  <PublicServer> <ryx> hi
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18:43:55  <PublicServer> <ryx> so inner spokes drive-right?
18:44:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> of course not
18:44:22  <PublicServer> <ryx> ah k
18:44:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> inner left, outer MSHs right
18:44:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> it should be intuitive :)
18:45:26  <uliko> !password
18:45:26  <PublicServer> uliko: glazed
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18:46:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok, outer ML set up
18:50:18  <PublicServer> <uliko> Are the LLRR lines going from outer to inner drive on left as well?
18:50:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> ?
18:50:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> where?
18:50:54  <PublicServer> <uliko> At LV W Hub for example
18:51:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> this way
18:51:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> makes sense imo
18:51:26  <PublicServer> <uliko> Yes
18:51:34  <PublicServer> <uliko> But it's drive on left which is confusing :p
18:51:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> well
18:51:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> it isnt even a full hub
18:51:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> and it goes only into 1 station
18:51:55  <PublicServer> <uliko> I know
18:51:56  <als> !password
18:51:56  <PublicServer> als: glazed
18:51:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> so not much confusion imo
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18:52:57  <PublicServer> <greenlion> I'll try to make LV W hub, not sure what 'll came out of it :)
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18:59:18  <PublicServer> <greenlion> gah, who sent invisible train to ML?
19:00:00  <PublicServer> <ryx> oO lol
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19:00:58  <PublicServer> <greenlion> ah, it was running on one of the plans and escaped, I guess
19:01:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> it ran over the fields? :D
19:01:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> I guess someone released it :p
19:01:18  <PublicServer> <greenlion> yeah :)
19:01:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> greenpeace can shove it :p
19:02:02  <PublicServer> <als> :P
19:02:19  <Tray> !password
19:02:19  <PublicServer> Tray: dicing
19:02:21  <PublicServer> <als> what terreform mode are we playing on?
19:02:23  <PublicServer> <ryx> thats what I meant with the lakes :)
19:02:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> Dutch mode
19:02:38  <PublicServer> <ryx> dutch?
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19:02:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> FLATTEN ALL
19:02:42  <PublicServer> <als> ..
19:02:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> nah, just as needed
19:02:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> for ML, even lakes go
19:02:48  <PublicServer> <ryx> lol
19:02:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> reasonably ...
19:02:57  <PublicServer> <als> Dutch mode, kill the sea?
19:03:03  <PublicServer> <greenlion> needed = all :)
19:03:15  <PublicServer> <ryx> more tea!
19:03:29  <PublicServer> <ryx> (green tea rocks)
19:06:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> heyy
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19:06:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> havent seen you in a while :)
19:06:47  <PublicServer> <ryx> if I do a standard 3->2 merger, should there be space for the trains to wait inside it?
19:06:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> most likely, ryx
19:07:11  <PublicServer> <ryx> yeah, I'm being stupid, thanks
19:07:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> feel free to ask even the stupidest things ;)
19:07:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> yw
19:07:49  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> V453000: yes, I've been busy
19:07:55  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> like i'm now
19:07:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> :(
19:08:11  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> but this looks like a nice map to play, maybe tomorrow
19:08:17  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> bye
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19:08:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> to the person who wrote !cl is a ..., TL is 3 btw
19:08:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> cyas :)
19:08:51  <PublicServer> <als> oh, well ryx ask dumb things. I do dumb thinks.
19:09:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D cause you dont ask :p
19:09:33  <PublicServer> <als> Well, it was just a sign..
19:09:39  <PublicServer> <ryx> (but doing dumb things often is a better teacher than asking them...)
19:09:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> but dumb :p
19:11:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> all markings should be accurate now :)
19:12:21  <PublicServer> <ryx> aww, it's too long now
19:12:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> dynamite is easy :p
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19:16:18  <Tray> @gap 8
19:16:18  <Webster> Tray: For Trainlength of 8: <= 14 needs 2, 15 - 24 needs 3, 25 - 34 needs 4.
19:16:57  <ryx> @cl 230
19:16:57  <Webster> ryx: (cl <no arguments>) -- Returns full name and reference url (if defined)
19:17:02  <ryx> aww
19:17:14  <ryx> @help
19:17:14  <Webster> ryx: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
19:17:35  <ryx> (yay, Webster is back!)
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19:33:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> network plan teleported to "safer" location
19:33:32  <PublicServer> <Tray> what does left-hand drive mean?
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19:34:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> that trains drive on the left side
19:34:14  <PublicServer> <Tray> Ah.
19:36:28  <XeryusTC> left hand side plan?
19:36:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> partly
19:36:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> come join :p
19:36:42  <XeryusTC> zomfg xD
19:37:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> only like a few lines are left handed, nothing to mess up things :)
19:37:21  <XeryusTC> !password
19:37:21  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: mooned
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19:37:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> hyy
19:39:24  <PublicServer> <ryx> hmm, for GR S Hub I used the center of the Hub sign to place the line, now it's a bit to the west
19:39:34  <PublicServer> <ryx> is it fine or should I relocate a bit?
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19:39:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> dude, no matter
19:40:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> its like ... 2 tiles? :D
19:40:09  <PublicServer> <ryx> k, just asking
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19:40:17  <PublicServer> <ryx> it's about 10 I'd say
19:43:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> hmm you cant see shit under those electrifications :D
19:43:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> but they look nice :)
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19:43:40  <PublicServer> <greenlion> I've just turned them off :)
19:43:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> well me too, just noting :)
19:44:18  <TheRisen> !password
19:44:18  <PublicServer> TheRisen: creaks
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19:44:31  <PublicServer> <TheRisen> hi there
19:44:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> hy
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19:52:08  <Tray> @gap 3
19:52:08  <Webster> Tray: For Trainlength of 3: <= 9 needs 2, 10 - 14 needs 3, 15 - 19 needs 4.
19:57:25  <PublicServer> <greenlion> @gap 8
19:57:30  <greenlion> @gap 8
19:57:31  <Webster> greenlion: For Trainlength of 8: <= 14 needs 2, 15 - 24 needs 3, 25 - 34 needs 4.
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20:02:45  <PublicServer> <TheRisen> how long should a prio be for tl 8?
20:02:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> about 12
20:03:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> trains accelerate fairly fast iirc
20:03:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> well maybe more
20:03:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> 16 is safe for sure
20:03:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> but well
20:03:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> use intuition :p
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20:05:55  <PublicServer> <Tray> the empty train accalerate in ~4 tiles
20:06:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> empty :)
20:06:07  <PublicServer> <TheRisen> and the full?
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20:08:31  <HanziQ> hi
20:08:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
20:08:36  <HanziQ> !password
20:08:36  <PublicServer> HanziQ: curios
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20:10:23  <PublicServer> <HanziQ> hm
20:10:29  <PublicServer> <HanziQ> that looks cool
20:10:51  <PublicServer> <TheRisen> indeed
20:13:14  <PublicServer> <greenlion> is my hub lame and ugly? or not? :)
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20:13:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> the merger balancing is quite poor
20:13:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> but leave it this way
20:13:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> so you can see how it works out
20:14:01  <PublicServer> <greenlion> okay
20:14:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> although there are some CL issues
20:14:23  <PublicServer> <ryx> you mean the one for trains leaving the ring?
20:14:30  <PublicServer> <ryx> (I like to understand too)
20:14:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> ryx: both of them :)
20:15:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> the one for trains leaving outer ring is actually not that bad
20:16:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> btw who already discovered the new blog article? :P
20:16:14  <PublicServer> <TheRisen> me :-P
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20:16:17  <PublicServer> <Tray> <-
20:16:19  <PublicServer> <ryx> I'm getting somewhat slowed by the oil refinery
20:16:27  <PublicServer> <ryx> me too
20:16:28  <PublicServer> <greenlion> me discovered, but not read all :)
20:16:34  <PublicServer> <HanziQ> oh, blog :D
20:16:36  <PublicServer> <ryx> only read about half so far
20:16:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> just wondering how people look at blog ;)
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20:17:11  <PublicServer> <HanziQ> i need to put here some bell that will ring when something about OTTD comes out
20:21:24  <PublicServer> <HanziQ> ok, this is too cool for me
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20:21:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> :O
20:21:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
20:21:34  <PublicServer> <TheRisen> lol
20:21:35  <HanziQ> :)
20:22:13  <HanziQ> i think i'll go play something less logical
20:22:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> :D
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20:22:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> tetries
20:22:34  <PublicServer> <V453000> -e
20:22:46  <PublicServer> <ryx> argh, one tile more space...
20:22:46  <Mazur> ttries?
20:22:56  <Mazur> Duno dat wan.
20:23:04  <Mazur> +n
20:23:08  <PublicServer> <greenlion> quake :)
20:23:19  <HanziQ> tetris? only in ascii
20:23:23  <HanziQ> :D
20:23:32  <HanziQ>                _._
20:24:22  <HanziQ> i think i'll stick with programming
20:24:29  <HanziQ> that's good for me
20:24:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> :/
20:24:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> tends to be logical
20:24:47  <HanziQ> not so much
20:24:50  <HanziQ> :D
20:24:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok :D
20:24:58  <HanziQ> it's just creepy
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20:35:46  <TheRisen> @gap 8
20:35:46  <Webster> TheRisen: For Trainlength of 8: <= 14 needs 2, 15 - 24 needs 3, 25 - 34 needs 4.
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20:39:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> wow tray that is goint to be huge
20:39:20  <PublicServer> <Tray> Hrm.
20:39:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> this - that might be too far
20:39:27  <HanziQ> !password
20:39:27  <PublicServer> HanziQ: barley
20:39:44  <PublicServer> <Tray> Hrm.
20:39:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> try to bridge the ML if I could say
20:40:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> this-ish
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20:40:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> just an advice :p
20:40:38  <PublicServer> <Tray> I thought about that solution but decided to do something more unproblemetic. (;
20:40:40  <PublicServer> <Tray> Will do later.
20:40:47  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
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20:41:16  <PublicServer> <ryx> any comments on my hub (GR S Hub) ?
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20:44:08  <PublicServer> <TheRisen> does our engin have some trouble with steep hills?
20:44:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> ofc not
20:44:25  <PublicServer> <TheRisen> phew
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20:49:34  <PublicServer> <greenlion> ryx, need priorities on your hub?
20:50:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> greenzebra the prio-monkey? :P
20:50:22  <PublicServer> <ryx> I'm not sure, since it's basically a MSH
20:50:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> ryx: so what :)
20:50:43  <PublicServer> <greenlion> V453000: :P
20:50:45  <PublicServer> <ryx> greenlion: if you feel like adding some, go ahead
20:51:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> ryx: priorities arent just making trains give way, but also a controller, to let us make trains join the correct line we want them to
20:52:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> might be the key knowledge puzzle that you have been missing ;)
20:52:28  <PublicServer> <ryx> you mean the PF prefers the lines that aren't prio-red?
20:52:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> umm that too
20:52:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> but you need the priorities to indicate if the line your train is trying to join is full or not
20:54:21  <PublicServer> <ryx> I'm still not sure if I understood
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20:54:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> you know how a SLH works?
20:54:40  <PublicServer> <V453000> basically
20:54:43  <PublicServer> <ryx> yes
20:54:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> you have trains coming from the SL, giving way
20:54:50  <PublicServer> <TheRisen> nothing is ever allowed to interrupt the traffic on the mainline
20:54:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> quite
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20:55:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> and when the trains choose, they need priorities to indicate if the line is full or not
20:55:29  <PublicServer> <Tray> estimated priolength for TL 3?
20:55:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is basically the same
20:55:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> Tray: depends :)
20:55:39  <PublicServer> <Tray> 5 or 6?
20:55:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> any
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20:55:51  <PublicServer> <ryx> ok
20:55:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> 5 and 6 is the same ;)
20:55:59  <PublicServer> <Tray> Hrm.
20:56:05  <PublicServer> <Tray> But give a hint.
20:56:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> I would need to see where :)
20:56:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> 6 I think
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20:57:41  <PublicServer> <Tray> Thanks alot.
20:57:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> np :D
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20:58:55  <Ramsus08191> !password
20:58:56  <PublicServer> Ramsus08191: entice
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20:59:14  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> Hello everybody
20:59:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh hi :) havent seen you in a while :)
20:59:23  <PublicServer> <TheRisen> hi
20:59:41  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> yup, been away for a while, but I am coming back
20:59:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> well, welcome back :p
21:00:16  <Ramsus08191> hehe, seen the past games, should hae been fun :D
21:00:24  <PublicServer> <Tray> Would !this cause any problems?
21:00:38  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> btw, nice articles on stations V
21:00:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> I actually wasnt playing much in the last games so I dont know that well :(
21:00:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> thx Ramsus08191
21:00:48  <PublicServer> <uliko> It works
21:00:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> Tray: why would it :)
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21:01:15  <PublicServer> <Tray> dont know, bps, 2 signals in two tiles ...
21:01:25  <PublicServer> <Tray> Just wnated to be sure.
21:01:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> its fine :)
21:01:46  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> new icons, now I am lost again D:
21:02:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> opengfx has new icons?
21:02:22  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> yeap
21:02:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> or you mean the rail set
21:02:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh :)
21:02:42  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> they are cooler but I was used to the old one, readptation time
21:03:58  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> there is a shuriken on the center of your plan V :)
21:04:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> yarr
21:04:14  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> Ninja style
21:04:16  <PublicServer> <V453000> blender plan
21:04:26  <PublicServer> <V453000> will it blend? :P
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21:06:21  <PublicServer> <Intexon> I'm off, good night
21:06:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> cya
21:06:25  <PublicServer> <TheRisen> n8
21:06:27  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> gn
21:06:29  <PublicServer> <ryx> night
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21:10:38  <sharpy> !password
21:10:38  <PublicServer> sharpy: entice
21:10:48  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> hmm we have a dancinzerg
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21:10:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> ultralisk
21:11:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi sharpy .
21:11:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> :p
21:11:09  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> hello
21:11:14  <PublicServer> <sharpy> aaaaah here we go
21:11:29  <PublicServer> <sharpy> hello
21:12:26  <PublicServer> <sharpy> are all the 4 central stations essentially the same?
21:12:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> if I understand your question, yes they are
21:13:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> only 2 are for LV and 2 for grain
21:13:14  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> cool depot as well
21:13:16  <PublicServer> <sharpy> yeah, awesome, same structure?
21:13:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure
21:13:31  <PublicServer> <sharpy> awesome
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21:13:37  <PublicServer> <sharpy> lets get hub building :D
21:13:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> yeey :p
21:14:21  <PublicServer> <ryx> I'll take the fourth one
21:14:25  <PublicServer> <sharpy> CL3?
21:14:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> ye
21:14:35  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> hmm why not make all the CLs 7?
21:14:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> ?
21:14:57  <PublicServer> <sharpy> interest, plan efficiency
21:15:11  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> I mean, CL 6 would work for one case but ppl would get confused and couse CL problems on the network....
21:15:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
21:15:21  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> cause*
21:15:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure
21:15:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> happened in the last game too
21:15:35  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> yup
21:15:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is a good practice for us ;)
21:15:39  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> hmm
21:15:45  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> hahaha, ok ok
21:15:45  <PublicServer> <ryx> V, do the trains that enter a feeder drop need a choice in which direction they exit?
21:15:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> ryx: they return back where they came from
21:16:04  <PublicServer> <ryx> ok
21:16:06  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> at least I get the chance to sing my "CL busters" song here :D
21:16:08  <PublicServer> <TheRisen> i am already confused by the stuff i just built
21:16:14  <PublicServer> <Tray> Ah, that makes things easier.
21:16:14  <PublicServer> <TheRisen> have some mercy with me
21:16:40  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> I have to finish it yet....
21:17:02  <PublicServer> <TheRisen> GR N done
21:17:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
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21:18:07  <PublicServer> <ryx> yay for mine disappearing at the right moment
21:19:49  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> I lost my almost ninja skills :/
21:21:08  <PublicServer> <sharpy> am i assuming minimal tf?
21:21:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> as needed
21:21:28  <PublicServer> <sharpy> thank god
21:21:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> if you need higher, go for higher but make it look natural
21:21:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> for example ...
21:22:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> there was a medium sized lake under message board :p
21:22:12  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> alright, I made some signals explaining the CL thingies at !cl test, so that ppl can get aware
21:22:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> good :)
21:22:42  <PublicServer> <ryx> nice
21:23:04  <PublicServer> <ryx> I'm planning stuff on paper...
21:23:20  <PublicServer> <TheRisen> it can help
21:23:37  <PublicServer> <TheRisen> but paper has one problem: the missing 3rd dimension
21:23:51  <PublicServer> <sharpy> origami time
21:23:57  <PublicServer> <TheRisen> hehe
21:24:05  <PublicServer> <TheRisen> he said on paper, not with paper :D
21:24:07  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> lol
21:24:14  <PublicServer> <V453000> lol origami xD
21:24:48  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> I found a Hidralisk paper toy one time to make, it was cool
21:25:47  <PublicServer> <TheRisen> i really wonder if the thing i built will work properly
21:25:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> hope so :p
21:26:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> it looks good
21:26:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> but there are some CLs
21:26:20  <Mks> !password
21:26:21  <PublicServer> Mks: plucky
21:26:24  <PublicServer> <TheRisen> 1
21:26:26  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> prio over lake, hehe
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21:26:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi Mks :)
21:26:40  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> hi
21:26:42  <PublicServer> <TheRisen> 1 curve length at the tunnels
21:26:42  <PublicServer> <Mks> hiya
21:26:44  <PublicServer> <TheRisen> hi
21:26:52  <PublicServer> <Mks> wow that transfer station is big
21:27:15  <PublicServer> <V453000> we dont play small here :p
21:27:24  <PublicServer> <sharpy> size matters:p
21:27:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> ARR
21:27:34  <PublicServer> <TheRisen> ;)
21:27:38  <PublicServer> <Mks> wasn't the inner ring suppose to be 1 way?
21:27:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
21:27:46  <PublicServer> <Mks> or was it outer ML
21:27:50  <PublicServer> <V453000> outer
21:27:52  <PublicServer> <Mks> ahh
21:28:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> trains need to choose the sides in inner
21:28:30  <PublicServer> <Mks> mm almost the entire inner ring will be a hub :)
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21:28:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> sure
21:28:53  <PublicServer> <Mks> 4 transfer hubs and 4 corner hubs
21:28:57  <PublicServer> <Mks> not much left :)
21:29:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> the game will most likely end when it really is one whole hub :)
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21:29:27  <PublicServer> <Mks> well the outer ML will have mm 8 hubs as well right?
21:29:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> yesd
21:29:41  <PublicServer> <V453000> but those have large amounts of space in compare
21:29:43  <PublicServer> <sharpy> literally, hubs everywhwere
21:30:07  <PublicServer> <sharpy> bollux, balance
21:30:09  <PublicServer> <sharpy> rage
21:30:13  <PublicServer> <Mks> true the outer ML less lines + more space
21:30:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> mainly more space :)
21:30:49  <ryx> will the inner corner hubs have diagonal lines going out?
21:31:06  <PublicServer> <Mks> isn't your inner hub a bit long bridges and only 2 considering tl 3?
21:31:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> ryx: about :)
21:31:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> Mks
21:31:33  <PublicServer> <V453000> cant see any wrong :)
21:32:09  <PublicServer> <Mks> well I guess it shouldn't be a problem anytime soon
21:32:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> not even later
21:32:31  <PublicServer> <ryx> how would two terminus stations for the feeder drop work?
21:32:33  <PublicServer> <Mks> not enough traffic you mean
21:33:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> ryx: define difference between roro and terminus :)
21:33:18  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> damn, getting moskitos with index and thumb finger is hard.....
21:34:22  <PublicServer> <ryx> a terminus has exit and entrance in the same spot and makes the trains reverse in the process
21:34:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok
21:34:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> and what is the difference related to your question
21:35:08  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> yay!, just did it !
21:35:37  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> next level: hashis
21:36:45  <PublicServer> <ryx> I'm not sure how performant the station entrance needs to be with a TL3 drop with powerful trains
21:37:11  <PublicServer> <ryx> since a terminus has somewhat worse entrance/exit performance
21:37:45  <PublicServer> <TheRisen> hmm i can't see a a way to get rid of this CL
21:37:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> you have to :)
21:38:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> or
21:38:04  <PublicServer> <V453000> maybe not
21:38:06  <PublicServer> <TheRisen> it's just the joiner
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21:38:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> iirc it is still 200kmh
21:38:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> which is fairly fine
21:38:18  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> press D and highlight the area
21:38:32  <PublicServer> <TheRisen> HAHA
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21:38:48  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> it corrects everything
21:38:52  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> :D
21:39:04  <PublicServer> <TheRisen> but the throughput will be even worse after that
21:39:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> :d
21:39:21  <PublicServer> <V453000> leave it as it is :p
21:39:53  <PublicServer> <TheRisen> maybe i have a great idea while sleeping
21:39:58  <PublicServer> <TheRisen> gn8 guys
21:40:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> cya
21:40:06  <PublicServer> <ryx> n8
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21:41:50  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> hello
21:41:54  <PublicServer> <avdg> hey
21:41:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
21:42:16  <PublicServer> <sharpy> yo
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21:43:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> first transfer done \o/
21:43:56  <PublicServer> <avdg> -_- "declared by himself"
21:44:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> anything wrong?
21:44:07  <PublicServer> <Mks> all the farms trains should they visit all the trasnfer stations?
21:44:17  <PublicServer> <avdg> not really
21:44:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> Mks: sure
21:44:32  <PublicServer> <Mks> like first A then B then C then D
21:44:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> no
21:44:44  <PublicServer> <avdg> but I just don't like it
21:44:48  <PublicServer> <V453000> N or S. E or W
21:44:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> GR/LV separate
21:44:59  <PublicServer> <ryx> grain and livestock have separate transfers
21:45:02  <PublicServer> <Mks> so not N + S + E +W
21:46:42  <PublicServer> <avdg> @tunnels 7
21:46:54  <PublicServer> <avdg> @tunnel 7
21:47:12  <avdg> @tunnel 7
21:47:12  <Webster> avdg: For Trainlength of 7: <= 13 needs 2, 14 - 22 needs 3, 23 - 31 needs 4.
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21:47:32  <PublicServer> <Mks> the trains are tl 8
21:47:44  <avdg> @tunnel 8
21:47:44  <Webster> avdg: For Trainlength of 8: <= 14 needs 2, 15 - 24 needs 3, 25 - 34 needs 4.
21:48:33  <PublicServer> <avdg> ctrl+ click :)
21:48:35  <PublicServer> <avdg> is faster
21:48:50  <PublicServer> <Mks> ohh
21:48:58  <PublicServer> <Mks> ohh didn't know that
21:49:06  <PublicServer> <avdg> ;-)
21:49:51  <PublicServer> <Mks> I guess it will be a day or two until any trains acually run here
21:49:55  <PublicServer> <Mks> or even more
21:49:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> for sure
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21:51:00  <PublicServer> <Mks> corner hubs should also be LL+RR ?
21:51:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> ye
21:52:06  <PublicServer> <Ramsus08191> ok, gn dudes
21:52:11  <avdg> gn
21:52:18  <PublicServer> <sharpy> adios
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21:56:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> ryx: rather TF the lake than leave minimum space for the hub
21:57:13  <PublicServer> <ryx> I'm planning to terraform as I need space
21:58:28  <PublicServer> <Mks> I would have built the inner ML L1L1L*R1R1R1
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21:58:40  <PublicServer> <Mks> thats almost how it will end up anyway with all the hubs
21:59:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> Mks: what is the difference then
21:59:19  <PublicServer> <Mks> well if its built that way from the begining its easier :)
21:59:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> not rly
21:59:31  <PublicServer> <Mks> a little
21:59:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> you usually still delete all of the ML and then put there the hub
21:59:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> and having them together makes the ML kind of smaller, butthat doestnt matter rly
22:00:09  <PublicServer> <Mks> ahh yes true ml gets a little smaller that way
22:00:22  <PublicServer> <ryx> what's the exact definition of gap? space between the signals? or does it include signals?
22:00:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> first
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22:00:43  <PublicServer> <Mks> betwen signlas
22:00:51  <PublicServer> <Mks> shouldn't be longer then mm 2 right?
22:00:53  <PublicServer> <ryx> thanks
22:02:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> BTW
22:02:07  <PublicServer> <V453000> the 18 platforms arent a rule
22:02:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> I just used them
22:02:19  <PublicServer> <V453000> with different station style you might need other
22:02:30  <PublicServer> <ryx> I decided on a roro after all
22:02:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> nor they need to be this straight
22:02:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> or anything else
22:03:51  <PublicServer> <Mks> well I would say you built stations with 9 plattforms each :)
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22:04:06  <PublicServer> <Mks> since they aren't linked
22:04:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> well people copy 18
22:04:39  <PublicServer> <Mks> hehe
22:04:52  <Deamonhunter11> !password
22:04:52  <PublicServer> Deamonhunter11: calmly
22:04:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> and to be honest, this is exactly how you shouldnt build a station :)
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22:05:11  <PublicServer> <Mks> why not?
22:06:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> I doubt they know what station are they building :p
22:06:09  <PublicServer> <ryx> whoever is building that station (it might be me) is free to rearrange
22:06:13  <PublicServer> <V453000> therefore you cant know how many lines
22:06:23  <PublicServer> <ryx> I just wanted to get afeeling for where to put the hubs
22:06:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> ryx: and what is the empty space in the middle going to be then :)
22:06:47  <PublicServer> <greenlion> V, so, why rely on that you knew :)
22:07:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> ?
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22:09:57  <PublicServer> <sharpy> don't you just hate
22:09:59  <PublicServer> <sharpy> when you think a hubs done
22:10:10  <PublicServer> <sharpy> and all of a sudden a thought creeps up on you
22:10:11  <PublicServer> <sharpy> PRIOS
22:10:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> you shouldve kept that in mind :)
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22:10:51  <PublicServer> <sharpy> this is only my third hub ever, so its all fine :D
22:10:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh :)
22:11:47  <PublicServer> <Mks> seems like all the transfer stations will be mm terminus huh?
22:11:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> most likely
22:12:12  <PublicServer> <greenlion> as drawn in the plan :)
22:12:23  <PublicServer> <V453000> plan is a scheme, not station specification
22:12:41  <PublicServer> <Mks> but since cl mm 6?
22:12:49  <PublicServer> <Mks> a ro ro will take up alot of space
22:13:13  <PublicServer> <ryx> argh
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22:13:42  <PublicServer> <ryx> complicated stuff is complicated
22:14:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> ryx: you are building one of the hardest things in this game, what do you expect :)
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22:14:25  <PublicServer> <ryx> right now I'm building a stupid 3lane split and merge
22:14:28  <PublicServer> <ryx> divide and conquer works quite well
22:14:39  <PublicServer> <Mks> I prefer the connections to farms thats easy :)
22:14:59  <PublicServer> <ryx> especially with TL3, yay!
22:15:20  <PublicServer> <Mks> doesn't tl 3 makes it easier thought?
22:15:26  <PublicServer> <Mks> or well less space t least
22:15:26  <PublicServer> <ryx> thats what I meant
22:15:44  <PublicServer> <ryx> is my 'yay!' that ambiguous?
22:18:58  <PublicServer> <Mks> well V you think hubs are very easy to build right?
22:19:08  <PublicServer> <V453000> depends :)
22:19:21  <PublicServer> <Mks> you seem to find everything easy :)
22:19:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> meh
22:19:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> the outer ring hubs are easy indeed
22:19:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> inner are quite hard due to low space :)
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22:20:14  <PublicServer> <Mks> well I would say your transfer stations is really easy for being you :P
22:20:25  <sharpy> !password
22:20:26  <PublicServer> sharpy: meeter
22:20:27  <PublicServer> <Mks> I  saw last game you made some crazy station with mm 1000 bridges?
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22:20:44  <PublicServer> <V453000> well I have some practice :p
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22:22:27  <PublicServer> <Mks> who is building the east transfer ?
22:22:37  <PublicServer> <Mks> the station I mean
22:22:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> im wondering too
22:22:55  <PublicServer> <Tray> East is in the upper right?
22:22:57  <PublicServer> <Tray> I do.
22:23:13  <PublicServer> <Mks> LV E :)
22:23:19  <PublicServer> <Mks> upper mm right maybe :)
22:23:25  <PublicServer> <Tray> Oh. Yeah, get the point.
22:23:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> Tray: CL2 :p
22:23:41  <PublicServer> <Tray> Hrm ...
22:23:45  <PublicServer> <Tray> o:
22:24:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> greenlion: what now eh :p
22:24:34  <PublicServer> <sharpy> lol
22:24:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> I recommend to come with your own station :)
22:25:07  <PublicServer> <greenlion> V453000: thinking what to do with 6 input lanes :)
22:25:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> well you could merge each 3 into 2
22:25:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> then you get 4
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22:25:32  <PublicServer> <V453000> with the 4 ... hmm ... easier? :p
22:25:36  <PublicServer> <Mks> and build like V 2 seperate stations
22:25:45  <PublicServer> <Mks> well same space ofc but
22:25:57  <PublicServer> <Mks> 2 at each mm 8 track station makes it easy
22:26:12  <PublicServer> <greenlion> well, may be
22:26:56  <PublicServer> <Mks> I've never built a 3 lane station
22:27:00  <PublicServer> <Mks> not sure how to build one
22:27:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> I guess best way is trying :)
22:27:37  <PublicServer> <Mks> well you could use the kinda of entrance V does ofc that works for 3 tracks
22:27:51  <PublicServer> <Mks> but mm is there any other way to build a 3 lane entrance mmm
22:28:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> of course there is
22:28:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> there is like a million ways
22:28:17  <PublicServer> <sharpy> someone feel like checking some prios?
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22:28:42  <PublicServer> <V453000> me rather going for sleep mode
22:28:53  <PublicServer> <sharpy> fair
22:29:01  <PublicServer> <ryx> is the PBS-method of prioing after a bridge acceptable?
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22:29:12  <PublicServer> <V453000> ryx: yes
22:29:16  <sharpy> !password
22:29:16  <PublicServer> sharpy: rewind
22:29:20  <PublicServer> <V453000> as the only reasonable usage of PBS
22:29:30  <PublicServer> <ryx> then I'll prefer that
22:29:50  <PublicServer> <ryx> because I think it's best to keep the path between the balancer and the merge with the ML as short as possible
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22:31:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> BTW
22:31:22  <PublicServer> <V453000> the stations dont always require to be balanced
22:31:26  <PublicServer> <Mks> is there anyw to build a station entry where 3 lines can choice 2 or 3 plattforms without crossing eachother?
22:31:30  <PublicServer> <V453000> it would make good sense here though :))
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22:31:57  <PublicServer> <V453000> Mks: I am not entirely sure if I understand what are you talking about but I think it is
22:32:10  <PublicServer> <Mks> well like your station 3 tl entry
22:32:14  <PublicServer> <Mks> without the crossing track
22:32:37  <PublicServer> <V453000> ?
22:32:38  <PublicServer> <Mks> is that even possible in any efficent way?
22:33:00  <PublicServer> <ryx> V453000: I'm planning to not balance the split from the ML to the station, keeping it at 3 tracks and using the station entrance balancer
22:33:14  <PublicServer> <ryx> but I'm gonna balance the merge to ML after the exit
22:33:27  <PublicServer> <V453000> do what you think is right and what is reasonable
22:33:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> Mks: I really have no idea what are you talking about, sorry
22:33:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> which station?
22:34:15  <PublicServer> <Mks> V: I built a test station well its not working but maybe you'll get what I mean
22:34:24  <PublicServer> <V453000> oh
22:34:25  <PublicServer> <V453000> well
22:34:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> of course there is a way
22:34:35  <PublicServer> <V453000> but why would you need that
22:34:41  <PublicServer> <Mks> mm
22:34:46  <PublicServer> <Mks> crossing lines slow down :)(
22:34:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> yes
22:34:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> and how do the platforms slow down?
22:35:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> the X will most likely have greater throughput than the 3 platforms
22:35:33  <PublicServer> <Mks> so you mean an X even with 3 tracks is alright?
22:35:43  <PublicServer> <V453000> depends, here I think it is
22:35:45  <PublicServer> <Mks> station won't realse trains fast enough for it to be a problem
22:36:08  <PublicServer> <Mks> I don't mind a 2 track X but mm 3?
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22:36:28  <PublicServer> <V453000> you obviously dont know shit :p
22:36:40  <PublicServer> <Mks> I mean at high load ofc
22:36:53  <PublicServer> <V453000> do 3 platforms get high load?
22:36:59  <PublicServer> <V453000> it is like 1/2 line
22:37:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> the signal gap is like 4
22:37:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> which should be enough
22:37:15  <PublicServer> <ryx> I hate prios
22:38:31  <PublicServer> <Mks> also when doing an X mm isn't PBS a bit fast well as long as it doesn't lag ? :)
22:38:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> PBS doesnt lag, good to know
22:38:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> :)
22:39:01  <PublicServer> <Mks> it doesn't with few trains :)
22:39:15  <PublicServer> <greenlion> 1-2? :)
22:39:19  <PublicServer> <Mks> haha
22:39:29  <PublicServer> <V453000> on PBS I have only one response :) and it isnt subtle :p
22:39:42  <PublicServer> <sharpy> do not enrage v about pbs
22:39:47  <greenlion> @gap 3
22:39:47  <Webster> greenlion: For Trainlength of 3: <= 9 needs 2, 10 - 14 needs 3, 15 - 19 needs 4.
22:39:50  <PublicServer> <Mks> I know he doesn't like pbs
22:40:03  <PublicServer> <V453000> he has reasons for it
22:40:54  <PublicServer> <V453000> and is now going to sleep
22:40:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> :p
22:41:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> cya tomorrow
22:41:02  <PublicServer> <ryx> night
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22:41:10  <PublicServer> <greenlion> me too. gnight
22:41:12  <PublicServer> <sharpy> laters
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22:50:28  <ryx_> !password please
22:50:29  <PublicServer> ryx_: scants
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22:52:30  <Sylf> !password
22:52:30  <PublicServer> Sylf: scants
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22:52:43  <PublicServer> <Sylf> howdy all
22:52:51  <PublicServer> <ryx> hi
22:52:53  <PublicServer> <sharpy> yo
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22:57:11  <PublicServer> <Sylf> D:  the big lake getting in the way of GR S hub
22:57:33  <PublicServer> <ryx> naw it's not
22:57:57  <PublicServer> <ryx> I'll draw you a plan
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22:58:41  <PublicServer> <Sylf> yeah, that's the part you're working on right now
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22:59:36  <PublicServer> <ryx> plan done
22:59:41  <PublicServer> <ryx> it's right next to the station
22:59:43  <PublicServer> <Sylf> both way in?
22:59:52  <PublicServer> <ryx> trains leave the way they came
23:00:18  <PublicServer> <Sylf> i dun think they'll behave like that every time
23:00:26  <PublicServer> <ryx> they will
23:00:35  <PublicServer> <ryx> because they don't have the choice
23:00:45  <PublicServer> <ryx> (I asked V)
23:01:02  <PublicServer> <Sylf> are all platforms 1way?
23:01:08  <PublicServer> <ryx> yes
23:01:16  <PublicServer> <ryx> (on this station
23:01:28  <PublicServer> <ryx> (unless someone wants to build it differently)
23:01:31  <PublicServer> <Sylf> like that?
23:01:35  <PublicServer> <ryx> yes
23:01:39  <PublicServer> <Sylf> kk
23:01:43  <PublicServer> <ryx> but I don't claim the station (yet)
23:01:49  <PublicServer> <ryx> so far I'm just doing the hub
23:02:03  <PublicServer> <ryx> I searched a bit for the solution with minimal bridging
23:02:24  <PublicServer> <Sylf> I kinda wanted to work on inner NW hub
23:02:47  <PublicServer> <Sylf> I worked on it offline, trying to squeeze the hub on one side of the lake
23:02:51  <PublicServer> <Sylf> and it just won't fit
23:03:03  <PublicServer> <ryx> we bribed greenpeace
23:03:13  <PublicServer> <sharpy> terraforming is as needed
23:03:31  <PublicServer> <ryx> feel free to fill up another lake...
23:03:33  <PublicServer> <sharpy> a natural looking end product is all thats required
23:03:39  <PublicServer> <Sylf> I wanna see if I can make this side line go in a circle around the lake
23:03:41  <PublicServer> <sharpy> says V
23:03:46  <PublicServer> <ryx> (the message board for example was on a lake...)
23:06:39  <sharpy> right i am done
23:06:42  <sharpy> laters homies
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23:06:53  <PublicServer> <ryx> night
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23:09:22  <PublicServer> <ryx> darn, my joiner is nowhere near as good as V's
23:09:32  <PublicServer> <ryx> but I dont just want to copy his
23:09:40  <PublicServer> <Mks> remove parts of the lake
23:09:54  <PublicServer> <ryx> that's not the problem
23:09:59  <PublicServer> <Tray> What's the problem with yours?
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23:10:25  <PublicServer> <ryx> it's just bigger
23:10:33  <Mks> !password
23:10:33  <PublicServer> Mks: carved
23:10:45  <PublicServer> <Tray> Well, but also quite well.
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23:11:33  <PublicServer> <ryx> hmmm
23:11:41  <PublicServer> <ryx> thanks
23:11:47  <PublicServer> <ryx> got an idea
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23:15:53  <Mks> !password
23:15:53  <PublicServer> Mks: bleats
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23:17:41  <PublicServer> <ryx> theere we go
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23:18:19  <PublicServer> <ryx> V's still has the advantage that the 3way splits are in one spot and can thus be presignalled
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23:21:55  <PublicServer> <ryx> I'll go to bed. night
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