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02:20:47 <PublicServer> *** Jkrueger joined the game 02:22:18 <glevans2> I can be in in a minute if you are wanting to do more than look around Jkrueger... 02:22:44 <Jkrueger> oh i'm just taking a break from paper writing to check out the lines 02:22:51 <Jkrueger> bbh 5-7 is awesome 02:23:28 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 02:23:28 <PublicServer> *** glevans2 joined the game 02:23:41 <PublicServer> *** glevans2 has joined company #1 02:23:41 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 02:24:39 <PublicServer> <glevans2> yes, BBH 5-7 is crazy... 02:28:21 <PublicServer> <glevans2> what is the topic of your paper? 02:28:51 <PublicServer> <Jkrueger> it is a history reseach paper about group that work for peace 02:29:08 *** pugi has quit IRC 02:29:47 <PublicServer> <Jkrueger> mine is about peace action which is a us group of anti nuclear weapons activists 02:30:49 <PublicServer> <glevans2> do you find it interesting? 02:30:59 <PublicServer> <Jkrueger> not really was an assigned topic 02:31:46 *** Keiya has joined #openttdcoop 02:32:06 <PublicServer> <Jkrueger> farms are taking over the oil drop 02:39:06 *** Keiya_ has quit IRC 02:39:40 <PublicServer> <glevans2> merge sections for BBH 2-3 are huge now, but they are all-to-all ... 02:44:17 <PublicServer> <Jkrueger> yeah that is a monster 02:47:23 <PublicServer> <Jkrueger> alrighty time for me to get going 02:47:33 <PublicServer> <glevans2> ok, later 02:47:43 <PublicServer> *** Jkrueger has left the game (connection lost) 02:47:43 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 02:47:49 *** Jkrueger has quit IRC 02:52:19 <PublicServer> *** glevans2 has left the game (leaving) 02:55:29 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002E0CD: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002E0CD.png 03:00:44 *** MDGrein has joined #openttdcoop 03:42:54 *** theholyduck has quit IRC 03:58:59 *** theholyduck has joined #openttdcoop 04:05:01 *** Keiya_ has joined #openttdcoop 04:12:12 *** Keiya has 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<SmatZ> I guess it would be good to upgrade to nightly today 15:25:46 <Rubidium> anything that can happen will eventually happen 15:25:54 <SmatZ> very true :) 15:26:02 <Rubidium> and for fun: has already happened 15:26:23 <SmatZ> might be the case, yes 15:29:43 <PublicServer> *** Rubidium has left the game (leaving) 15:30:00 *** Phoenix_the_II has joined #openttdcoop 15:30:00 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Phoenix_the_II 15:31:08 * Rubidium thinks "STAGE: needs more trains" is more appropriate :) 15:31:30 <Ammler> !rcon max_trains 15:31:30 <PublicServer> Ammler: ERROR: command not found 15:31:35 <Ammler> !rcon get max_trains 15:31:35 <PublicServer> Ammler: ERROR: command not found 15:31:42 <Ammler> hmm 15:31:45 <Ammler> !rcon set max_trains 15:31:45 <PublicServer> Ammler: Current value for 'max_trains' is: '1200' (min: 0, max: 5000) 15:31:53 <Ammler> wasn't get an alias? 15:32:21 <Rubidium> not that I'm aware of 15:32:48 <Ammler> !info 15:32:48 <PublicServer> Ammler: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'PSG198: Tropicinal' Year Founded: 1950 Money: 38457879731 Loan: 0 Value: 38466328593 (T:1200, R:0, P:0, S:0) unprotected 15:33:04 <Ammler> !rcon set max_trains 1300 15:33:46 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 15:33:48 <PublicServer> *** Player has joined spectators 15:34:08 <PublicServer> *** Player has changed his/her name to AmmIer 15:34:30 <PublicServer> *** AmmIer has changed his/her name to Amm1er 15:34:52 <Ammler> !unpause 15:34:52 <PublicServer> *** Ammler has unpaused the server. (Use !auto to set it back.) 15:35:04 <PublicServer> *** Amm1er has joined company #1 15:35:04 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 15:36:33 <Rubidium> !info 15:36:33 <PublicServer> Rubidium: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'PSG198: Tropicinal' Year Founded: 1950 Money: 38480395390 Loan: 0 Value: 38488777321 (T:1200, R:0, P:0, S:0) unprotected 15:37:00 <Rubidium> !password 15:37:00 <PublicServer> Rubidium: vatted 15:37:12 <PublicServer> *** Rubidium joined the game 15:40:31 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003E6AD: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003E6AD.png 15:40:59 *** asnoehu has quit IRC 15:41:02 <PublicServer> *** Amm1er has enabled autopause mode. 15:42:01 *** valhallasw has quit IRC 15:42:18 *** asnoehu has joined #openttdcoop 15:42:42 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> laggy 15:43:15 <PublicServer> <Rubidium> then your computer is too slow :) 15:47:53 *** DayDreamer has joined #openttdcoop 15:51:13 <PublicServer> <Rubidium> woohoo... made a new route too congested :) 15:51:51 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> how? 15:51:58 <PublicServer> <Rubidium> adding loads of trains :) 15:52:08 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> oh ok, obviously :-P 15:54:56 <SmatZ> :P 15:55:13 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> bbh 7-8 is full 15:55:27 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> I don't get this numbers 15:55:30 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00010E5D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00010E5D.png 15:55:52 <PublicServer> <Rubidium> Amm1er: the rings have numbers, and I think each BBH links two rings 15:57:42 *** smoovi has joined #openttdcoop 15:58:06 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> oh adding a 3rd line? 15:58:28 <PublicServer> <Rubidium> there's no other way I fear 15:59:06 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> the whole ring might need it 15:59:16 <PublicServer> <Rubidium> s/might // 15:59:16 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> ring 8 16:10:31 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001EF6C: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0001EF6C.png 16:12:21 *** Zuu has joined #openttdcoop 16:25:31 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00007B52: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00007B52.png 16:27:46 <Sylf> !password 16:27:46 <PublicServer> Sylf: trench 16:28:01 <PublicServer> *** Sylf joined the game 16:32:35 <PublicServer> *** Sylf has left the game (connection lost) 16:40:31 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00002B66: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00002B66.png 16:45:06 *** Qantourisc has quit IRC 16:46:01 <Ammler> !info 16:46:01 <PublicServer> Ammler: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'PSG198: Tropicinal' Year Founded: 1950 Money: 39447294063 Loan: 0 Value: 39463581386 (T:1272, R:0, P:0, S:0) unprotected 16:46:09 <Ammler> 30 trains to add :-) 16:47:21 *** Qantourisc has joined #openttdcoop 16:48:55 *** asnoehu has quit IRC 16:49:50 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> bbh 5-7 is nice 16:50:29 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 16:50:50 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> drop 05 water is at cap 16:51:19 <PublicServer> <Rubidium> most drops are :) 16:51:29 <PublicServer> <Rubidium> pickups are even worse; some only transport < 50% 16:54:40 *** asnoehu has joined #openttdcoop 16:55:31 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003D1D5: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003D1D5.png 17:00:49 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> check train 463 17:01:03 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> how much I would like pbs pre 1.0 back ;-) 17:02:03 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> but you see the point? 17:02:13 <PublicServer> <Rubidium> here we go again... 17:02:19 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> :-D 17:03:11 <PublicServer> <Rubidium> magically doing the right thing for lost trains is of lesser importance than doing the right thing for non-lost trains 17:03:40 *** hylje has joined #openttdcoop 17:03:40 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o hylje 17:04:12 <V453000> not when one of those things break them completely :p 17:04:18 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> the only right thing for non lost trains is that pbs behaves as ugly as presignals :-) 17:04:36 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> there is no real benefit of that change 17:04:50 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> just "code cleanup" 17:05:30 <Sylf> !password 17:05:31 <PublicServer> Sylf: hunger 17:05:35 <PublicServer> <Rubidium> but it went wrong with a presignals junction 17:05:55 <PublicServer> *** Sylf joined the game 17:05:57 <PublicServer> <Rubidium> meaning presignals behave the same way as path signals 17:06:04 <V453000> the point is you can solve it with presignals 17:06:06 <V453000> with pbs you cant 17:06:18 <PublicServer> <Rubidium> how can you solve it with presignals? 17:06:21 <V453000> see some of my terminus stations, I have the little arrows there 17:06:29 <V453000> then it is vulnerable to that 17:06:33 <V453000> you can try :) 17:06:43 <PublicServer> <Rubidium> after all, the issue Ammler was trying to show was with presignals 17:06:47 <V453000> the arrows can be placed in front or even behind the station 17:06:55 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> hmm 17:07:06 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> I don't think, you can solve it with presignals 17:07:24 <V453000> oh, train bumping into the end of block signals? 17:07:26 <V453000> something new? 17:07:41 <PublicServer> <Rubidium> no, nothing new 17:07:47 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> no 17:07:53 <PublicServer> <Rubidium> it's been like that forever 17:07:59 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> the workaround in pre 1.0 was using pbs 17:08:21 <PublicServer> <Rubidium> if lost: take random path 17:08:27 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> now you have to make roro, imo 17:08:29 <PublicServer> <Rubidium> which is exactly what it did 17:08:43 <PublicServer> <Rubidium> or just don't make trains lost 17:08:46 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> Rubidium: that would be cool 17:08:52 <V453000> random? trains prefer the back of the 1way 17:08:54 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> if lost take random 17:09:05 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> but then it should really try different :- 17:09:34 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> it does always head the wrong 17:09:50 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> that is not really random, imo :-) 17:09:52 <PublicServer> <Rubidium> Amm1er: no, you only notice it when it heads wrong! 17:10:02 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> ah ok 17:10:04 <PublicServer> <Rubidium> and random as in: implementation specific 17:10:10 <PublicServer> <Rubidium> i.e. NPF and YAPF behave differently 17:10:32 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001D9D7: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0001D9D7.png 17:10:34 <PublicServer> <Rubidium> but for both you can make a terminus station where lost trains mess things up 17:11:36 <PublicServer> *** Rubidium has left the game (connection lost) 17:11:37 <PublicServer> *** tneo joined the game 17:11:41 <PublicServer> <tneo> hello 17:11:59 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> sälü 17:14:44 * Mazur is sure he's not seeing the word Ammler is eeing there. 17:14:49 <Mazur> +s 17:15:09 <PublicServer> *** tneo has left the game (connection lost) 17:15:41 <Mazur> s-Atilde-euro-I-Atilde-OEligature 17:16:01 <Rubidium> fix your IRC client :) 17:17:34 <Mazur> It should be set for UTF8 17:18:26 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> he there is no short bridge for maglev 17:18:28 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> 3 tiles 17:18:50 <Rubidium> Mazur: is it? 17:18:52 <PublicServer> *** Sylf has left the game (connection lost) 17:18:52 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 17:18:52 <Sylf> nope :/ 17:18:58 <Sylf> dang it 17:19:10 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> well tehn 17:19:11 <Sylf> !password 17:19:11 <PublicServer> Sylf: foaled 17:19:16 <PublicServer> *** Amm1er has left the game (leaving) 17:19:27 <Sylf> meh, nevermind then 17:19:49 <Sylf> hmm, my isp is crapping out? 17:22:12 *** Mazur has quit IRC 17:23:11 *** Mazur has joined #openttdcoop 17:24:10 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 17:24:35 <Mazur> Ok, now I've only one locale variable left: LC_ALL=en_GB.utf8 17:24:45 <Mazur> So it should all work ok. 17:24:50 <Mazur> I guess. 17:25:32 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00010FC4: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00010FC4.png 17:28:38 *** perk11 has quit IRC 17:29:47 <Rubidium> Mazur: does it? 17:30:47 <Mazur> Apparently so. 17:31:12 <Mazur> it does! 17:32:09 <Rubidium> good :) 17:32:38 <Mazur> Clearly LC_CTYPE =UT-8 messed things up. 17:32:42 <Mazur> +F 17:33:04 <Sylf> Ò_Ó 17:33:26 <Sylf> hmm, full width alphabet... 17:33:46 <Sylf> abc 17:35:53 <Rubidium> yeah, that alphabet is used primarily by people who don't use the normal Roman alphabet 17:36:41 <Sylf> like me にほんじん 17:36:48 <Mazur> And it does it well. 17:38:13 <Mazur> ㄚㄈㄐㆧㆣㆲㆢ 17:38:53 <Rubidium> ooh... Japanese :) 17:41:13 <Rubidium> Hiragana to be precise (IIRC) 17:41:43 <Mazur> Bopomofo 17:41:54 <Mazur> WHATEVER THAT MAY BE. 17:41:56 <Mazur> Oops 17:45:49 <Mazur> I can do hiragana, though, if you want. Only the characters, mind, not actual language. 17:48:29 <Rubidium> then katakana is much easier :) 17:48:29 <Mazur> Or any of quite a numbers of scripts, I once spent an afternoon installing any character set I could find. 17:50:06 <Rubidium> as katakana is just for transliteration of non-Kanji/hiragana stuff, e.g. English 17:50:46 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 17:52:23 <Mazur> I hvae no Klingon, Elvish or Dwarvish, yet, although Dwarvish of of course Runic, which I have. 17:52:39 <Mazur> s/of/is/ 18:24:24 *** smoovi has quit IRC 18:54:29 *** Osai has joined #openttdcoop 18:59:18 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 19:20:36 *** Vitus has joined #openttdcoop 20:10:30 *** pugi has quit IRC 20:12:40 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 20:12:56 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has left the game (leaving) 20:17:18 *** Intexon has quit IRC 20:24:07 *** Mazur has quit IRC 20:43:59 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 20:44:59 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 20:44:59 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 20:49:16 *** Tray has joined #openttdcoop 20:49:27 <Tray> !dl win 32 20:49:27 <PublicServer> Tray: unknown option "win" 20:49:31 <Tray> !dl win32 20:49:31 <PublicServer> Tray: http://cz.binaries.openttd.org/openttd/binaries/nightlies/trunk/r21226/openttd-trunk-r21226-windows-win32.zip 20:54:13 <Tray> !password 20:54:13 <PublicServer> Tray: foaled 20:54:29 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 20:54:30 <PublicServer> *** Tray joined the game 20:55:59 <PublicServer> *** Tray has left the game (leaving) 21:03:05 *** benom has quit IRC 21:13:55 *** Tray has quit IRC 21:20:55 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 21:44:34 *** Firartix has joined #openttdcoop 22:06:55 <SmatZ> !players 22:06:58 <PublicServer> SmatZ: There are currently no clients connected to the server 22:07:11 <SmatZ> !rcon save preupdate 22:07:11 <PublicServer> SmatZ: you are not allowed to use !rcon 22:10:16 *** ^Spike^ sets mode: -o+o SmatZ SmatZ 22:11:18 *** Keyboard_Warrior has joined #openttdcoop 22:11:18 *** theholyduck has quit IRC 22:11:35 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 22:14:43 <SmatZ> !rcon save preupdate 22:14:44 <PublicServer> SmatZ: Saving map... 22:14:44 <PublicServer> SmatZ: Map successfully saved to preupdate.sav 22:15:56 <PublicServer> Server closed down by admin 22:15:56 <PublicServer> Saving game... 22:16:01 <PublicServer> Server has exited 22:16:02 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 22:16:10 *** Radicalimero has joined #openttdcoop 22:17:46 <Radicalimero> !password 22:18:23 <Rubidium> bad bot... 22:18:34 <Radicalimero> haha 22:18:39 <Rubidium> but then, I think it's being updated 22:18:45 <Radicalimero> ok 22:20:05 <Rubidium> or it crashed :) 22:20:20 <Radicalimero> even worse 22:20:27 <Radicalimero> just wanted to check the map 22:20:32 <Ammler> nah, that doesn't look crashed 22:20:39 <Ammler> specially the save name preupdate 22:21:14 <Ammler> oh, we could update the dl script again :-) 22:27:09 *** benom has joined #openttdcoop 22:28:05 *** Firartix has quit IRC 22:28:18 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 22:30:01 *** Keiya_ has joined #openttdcoop 22:34:17 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 22:34:17 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 22:34:17 <PublicServer> Loading default savegame 22:34:17 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 22:34:17 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG198 (r21402) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | English only" 22:34:55 <SmatZ> !date 22:34:55 <PublicServer> SmatZ: 27 Jan 2453 22:35:17 <SmatZ> !info 22:35:17 <PublicServer> SmatZ: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'PSG198: Tropicinal' Year Founded: 1950 Money: 39913264150 Loan: 0 Value: 39930198539 (T:1293, R:0, P:0, S:0) unprotected 22:35:23 <Ammler> hmm 22:35:43 <Ammler> I would guess, you broke it :-) 22:35:44 <SmatZ> seems to be the correct game 22:35:48 <SmatZ> really? 22:35:55 <Ammler> no screenshot done 22:35:57 <Ammler> check the console 22:36:10 <SmatZ> [::ap::signals] WARNING: ignoring signals: SIGPOLL 22:36:12 <SmatZ> ? 22:36:15 <Ammler> no 22:36:21 <Ammler> does the console work? 22:36:37 <SmatZ> I think so :) 22:36:43 <Ammler> ok, well 22:37:00 <Ammler> !screen 22:37:00 <PublicServer> *** Ammler liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00000000.png) 22:37:16 <Ammler> !rcon getlocation 22:37:16 <PublicServer> Ammler: ERROR: command not found 22:37:26 <Ammler> every patch applied? 22:37:43 <SmatZ> well.. getlocation wasn't listed at the page :p 22:37:49 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 22:38:01 <Ammler> [23:24] <Ammler> just use all possible patches in patches <-- :-P 22:38:23 <Rubidium> just... fix the server mercurial queue thing :) 22:38:30 <SmatZ> packetstats.diff r21007.Rp1.diff revert_rtl_fix.Rp1.diff 22:38:33 <SmatZ> even those? 22:38:42 <Ammler> yeah, we might somewhen swithc to hg, indeed, 22:38:46 <Ammler> but next year :-) 22:38:57 <Ammler> packetstats can be removed 22:39:28 <Ammler> hmm, does the revert_rtl_fix still apply? 22:39:46 <SmatZ> patches/revert_rtl_fix.Rp1.diff 22:39:48 <SmatZ> nope 22:39:50 <SmatZ> is it needed? 22:40:11 <Rubidium> it breaks tcl 22:40:13 *** Mazur has joined #openttdcoop 22:40:15 <Rubidium> or tcl apps 22:40:19 <SmatZ> :-/ 22:40:23 <Rubidium> or at least autopilot 22:40:25 <SmatZ> hehe 22:40:33 <Rubidium> because nobody ever bothered to fix autopilot 22:40:37 <planetmaker> ap+ misbehaves badly without 22:40:49 <planetmaker> well. ap+ is deprecated. 22:40:56 <Rubidium> as I said... it needs to be fixed 22:41:06 <planetmaker> and it's need to be replaced 22:41:08 <Rubidium> and people are asking for that on the forum & IRC :) 22:41:26 <planetmaker> nah, dih just didn't finish his bot :-P 22:41:38 <Rubidium> planetmaker: even though grfcodec/nforenum could be seen as deprecated by NML, better maintain till the new thing is mature 22:41:46 <planetmaker> :-) 22:42:20 <planetmaker> that is true. But neither Ammler nor me did really find a way around 22:42:21 *** Mitcian has joined #openttdcoop 22:42:22 <Ammler> [23:40] <planetmaker> well. ap+ is deprecated. <-- I heavily disapgree :-P 22:42:39 <SmatZ> ok, I applied the patch with some rejects 22:42:57 <SmatZ> hope it compiles 22:42:57 <Ammler> SmatZ: you might be able to remove the first silly rtl char without revert the whole fix? 22:43:21 <SmatZ> Ammler: sorry, I don't know what you are talking about :) 22:43:40 <SmatZ> only the first RTL character has to be removed to TCL works fine? 22:43:56 <SmatZ> what about the second RTL character, that then becomes first? 22:44:00 <planetmaker> the text direction char 22:44:07 <SmatZ> error: ‘CHAR_TD_LRM’ was not declared in this scope 22:44:08 <Ammler> yes, the first char is something hidden, which ap+ isn't able to cut 22:44:09 <planetmaker> IIRC 22:44:11 <SmatZ> nope, doesn't compiler 22:44:14 <SmatZ> -r 22:44:43 <Ammler> at least, what dih said :-) 22:45:11 <Ammler> yeah, compile without 22:45:30 <Ammler> we need to find another way around 22:47:59 <Rubidium> did I break most of the patches or something? 22:48:21 <Ammler> you do that all the time :-P 22:48:56 *** theholyduck has joined #openttdcoop 22:48:57 <Ammler> like the goal devs say ;-) 22:49:35 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 22:49:35 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 22:49:35 <PublicServer> Loading default savegame 22:49:35 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 22:49:35 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG198 (r21402) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | English only" 22:49:38 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00007D1F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00007D1F.png 22:49:53 <Ammler> SmatZ: o/ 22:50:06 <SmatZ> :) 22:50:11 <SmatZ> without the RTL fix though 22:50:25 <Ammler> yes, no irc bridge :'-( 22:51:29 <Ammler> did you move/remove all buggy patches? 22:51:32 <SmatZ> openttd appends textdir character to all strings now? 22:51:38 <SmatZ> Ammler: nope 22:51:40 <SmatZ> will do 22:51:48 <Ammler> might be good for next update 22:51:52 *** DayDreamer has quit IRC 22:52:25 <Rubidium> SmatZ: only to chat messages IIRC 22:52:32 <Rubidium> !password 22:52:32 <PublicServer> Rubidium: weirds 22:52:55 <SmatZ> weird 22:52:57 <SmatZ> idd 22:53:04 <Ammler> SmatZ: finger isn't updated! 22:53:13 <SmatZ> I did run ./update 22:53:24 <SmatZ> update -w 22:53:26 <SmatZ> now 22:53:27 <SmatZ> too 22:53:27 <Ammler> yes 22:53:30 <Ammler> :-) 22:54:16 <Ammler> !dl lin 22:54:16 <PublicServer> Ammler: http://cz.binaries.openttd.org/openttd/binaries/nightlies/trunk/r21402/openttd-trunk-r21402-linux-generic-i686.tar.bz2 22:54:26 <Ammler> does that work for you? 22:54:57 <SmatZ> The requested URL /openttd/binaries/nightlies/trunk/r21402/openttd-trunk-r21402-linux-generic-i686.tar.bz2 was not found on this server. 22:55:14 <Rubidium> try .xz or .gz 22:55:25 <Ammler> autostart needs bz2 :-P 22:55:38 <Rubidium> then fix that 22:55:39 *** Vitus has quit IRC 22:55:42 <Ammler> :-D 22:55:49 <Ammler> you break everything 22:56:17 <planetmaker> :-D 22:56:28 <Ammler> is there another tool then p7zip to unpack xz? 22:56:34 <planetmaker> Some call it 'breaking' some call it 'fix' some call it 'improve' 22:56:35 <Rubidium> tar? 22:57:13 <Rubidium> since tar 1.23 IIRC 22:57:52 <Rubidium> oh, even tar 1.22 22:57:57 <Rubidium> and xz-utils 22:58:05 <Rubidium> and 7z 22:59:07 <Ammler> hmm, do you know the flag? 22:59:16 <Ammler> tar -x is already something else 22:59:25 <Rubidium> flag? 22:59:35 <Ammler> tar -xj => j=bz2 22:59:40 *** hylje has quit IRC 22:59:42 <Rubidium> I *always* just do tar -xf $file 22:59:51 <Rubidium> regardless of the stuff after .tar 22:59:52 <Ammler> aha 23:00:23 <Rubidium> although tar xf $file might also work 23:00:36 <Rubidium> not sure though 23:01:39 <Rubidium> yes, tar xf $file works as well 23:07:38 <Ammler> the redirect doesn't work anymore 23:07:40 <Ammler> :-( 23:07:59 <Ammler> curl -L http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r21402/openttd-trunk-r21402-linux-generic-i686.tar.xz | tar x 23:09:36 <Ammler> yes, I need the flag 23:10:09 <Ammler> -J it is 23:11:30 <Rubidium> what redirect? 23:11:47 <Ammler> my paste doesn't work 23:11:53 <Ammler> curl -L http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r21402/openttd-trunk-r21402-linux-generic-i686.tar.xz | tar xJ works 23:12:09 *** Mitcian has quit IRC 23:12:18 <Rubidium> oh; guess tar can't guess based on header 23:12:51 <Ammler> it can, but it tries to untar the http header with the redirect 23:13:08 <Ammler> with the J flag, it waits for the archive 23:14:53 <Ammler> !restart 23:14:53 <PublicServer> Ammler: Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute! 23:15:02 <PublicServer> Scheduled quit for automated maintenance... will be back shortely 23:15:02 <PublicServer> Thank you for playing r21402. 23:15:06 <PublicServer> Server has exited 23:15:07 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 23:15:28 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 23:15:28 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 23:15:28 <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 23:15:28 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 23:15:28 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG198 (r21402) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | English only" 23:15:39 *** theholyduck has quit IRC 23:15:40 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00007D1F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00007D1F.png 23:15:47 *** ed has joined #openttdcoop 23:15:54 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 23:15:56 <PublicServer> *** Amm1er joined the game 23:16:05 <Ammler> j 23:16:31 <Rubidium> !password 23:16:31 <PublicServer> Rubidium: goblet 23:16:40 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 23:16:40 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 23:16:43 <PublicServer> *** Rubidium joined the game 23:17:46 <Ammler> !restart 23:17:46 <PublicServer> Ammler: Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute! 23:18:01 <PublicServer> Scheduled quit for automated maintenance... will be back shortely 23:18:01 <PublicServer> Thank you for playing r21402. 23:18:06 <PublicServer> Server has exited 23:18:07 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 23:18:15 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 23:18:15 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 23:18:15 <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 23:18:15 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 23:18:15 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG198 (r21402) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | English only" 23:18:19 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00007D1F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00007D1F.png 23:18:31 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 23:18:33 <PublicServer> *** Amm1er joined the game 23:18:36 <Rubidium> !password 23:18:36 <PublicServer> Rubidium: pellet 23:18:41 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> test 23:18:45 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> :-) 23:18:51 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> wasn't that hard :-P 23:18:58 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 23:18:58 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 23:18:58 <PublicServer> *** Rubidium joined the game 23:19:07 <PublicServer> *** Amm1er has paused the server. 23:19:09 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 23:19:13 <PublicServer> *** Amm1er has enabled autopause mode. 23:19:15 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 23:19:35 <Ammler> something else I need to check? 23:19:59 <Ammler> planetmaker: don't sleep! 23:20:14 <planetmaker> zzzZZZzzz 23:20:25 <Ammler> what else then chat was broken? 23:21:00 <planetmaker> Not quite sure. But the chat bridge was the obvious thing 23:21:20 <Ammler> then I call ap+ fixed :-) 23:21:21 <ed> that must've been broken for a few weeks now 23:21:27 <planetmaker> There's also that sometimes parts of the logging are output in response to a command 23:21:37 <Ammler> that is something else 23:21:50 <Ammler> that was already there before the rtl-fix 23:21:59 <planetmaker> jeah 23:22:49 <SmatZ> [00:21:35] <Ammler> then I call ap+ fixed :-) <== what did you do? 23:23:14 *** Progman has quit IRC 23:23:15 <Ammler> oh, you tried to update the revert_rtl_fix? 23:23:18 <Ammler> sorry 23:23:39 <ed> is it safe to join in? 23:23:51 <Ammler> I changed some $linestr] == 0 to $linestr] == 1 23:23:53 <SmatZ> Ammler: no problem :) 23:23:55 <SmatZ> hehe 23:23:56 <Ammler> ed: always 23:23:57 <SmatZ> :D 23:24:07 <ed> !password 23:24:07 <PublicServer> ed: pellet 23:24:16 <PublicServer> *** ed joined the game 23:24:53 <ed> is this the same psg from a week ago? 23:25:57 <SmatZ> this game started 2 weeks ago 23:26:12 <ed> is this a record? 23:26:39 <SmatZ> I don't think so 23:27:15 <planetmaker> good night 23:27:21 <Ammler> there is still stuff to do :-) 23:27:22 <SmatZ> good night planetmaker 23:27:26 <ed> gnite 23:27:31 <Ammler> schlaf schön 23:27:43 <Ammler> :-D 23:28:02 *** Keiya has joined #openttdcoop 23:28:15 <Mazur> Sleep tight, pm. 23:29:14 *** `Fuco` has joined #openttdcoop 23:30:33 *** Aalmendra_Gimenez has joined #openttdcoop 23:30:33 *** Aalmendra_Gimenez has left #openttdcoop 23:33:19 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00009B82: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00009B82.png 23:35:41 *** Keiya_ has quit IRC 23:40:11 *** Fuco has quit IRC 23:40:18 *** Radicalimero has quit IRC 23:41:27 *** Zuu has quit IRC 23:42:13 <SmatZ> !players 23:42:16 <PublicServer> SmatZ: Client 4 (Orange) is Amm1er, in company 1 (PSG198: Tropicinal) 23:42:16 <PublicServer> SmatZ: Client 8 (Orange) is Rubidium, in company 1 (PSG198: Tropicinal) 23:42:16 <PublicServer> SmatZ: Client 10 (Orange) is ed, in company 1 (PSG198: Tropicinal) 23:47:00 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ joined the game 23:47:08 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> evening 23:47:22 <PublicServer> <ed> howdy 23:47:24 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> morning 23:47:54 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> my computer has problems with running this game smoothly :( 23:48:00 <PublicServer> <Rubidium> what? Does the sun already shine outside 23:48:07 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :-) 23:48:09 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> Rubidium: almost 23:48:12 <PublicServer> <Rubidium> SmatZ: mine as well, while compiling GCC HEAD on both cores 23:48:19 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> hehe 23:48:19 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000B1E2: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000B1E2.png 23:48:31 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> mean 23:48:45 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> OTTD is still broken in HEAD :( 23:50:51 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> SmatZ: what was reason for update, btw? 23:50:58 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> to force me, fixing ap+? 23:51:20 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> Amm1er: new savegame download protocol 23:51:22 <PublicServer> <Rubidium> testing like 100 revisions in improvements to the network stuff? 23:51:24 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> or so-to-say 23:51:42 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> hmm, ok 23:51:48 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> this server has btw. no lzma 23:51:49 <V453000> !dl win32 23:51:49 <PublicServer> V453000: http://cz.binaries.openttd.org/openttd/binaries/nightlies/trunk/r21402/openttd-trunk-r21402-windows-win32.zip 23:51:55 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> savegames are now sent and received without sasving it on HDD first 23:52:01 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> no problem 23:52:04 <V453000> something borkd again? 23:52:07 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> this should result in faster joins 23:52:09 <V453000> hi btw :( 23:52:10 <V453000> :) 23:52:14 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> hello V. 23:52:16 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> oh, not network_save.tmp anymore?= 23:52:30 <PublicServer> <Rubidium> and... less lag when making the savegame for the client 23:52:56 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> Amm1er: yup... at least when configured with threads 23:53:23 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> well, it's Rubidium's patch :) 23:53:46 <PublicServer> <Rubidium> SmatZ: network savegames are always sent without writing to disk 23:54:01 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> Rubidium: oh ok :) 23:54:02 <PublicServer> <Rubidium> it's only the async compression that requires threading 23:56:20 <Ammler> SmatZ: configured with threads means per default, I assume? 23:56:26 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> yes 23:56:34 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> but as Rubidium said, it doesn't matter :) 23:56:44 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> temp savegames aren't created anymore 23:56:51 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 23:56:57 <Ammler> yeah, I see 23:57:10 <Ammler> they were sometimes good for recover 23:57:46 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> there are autosaves... 23:57:55 <Ammler> you see, I find always something bad when you add nice features :-P 23:57:59 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> yeah 23:58:01 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :) 23:58:15 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> no more features for Amm1er 23:58:22 <Ammler> :'-( 23:58:27 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> :P